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Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 25, 2012, 12:27:52 AM
Or die of starvation.

Oh, and you know the guy who popularized the notion of how bad the factories in China are?  Turns out he made up kind of a LOT of the events he talked about.  And made what turn out to be really obvious attempts to cover it up.  NPR eventually got around to properly confirming things, and discovered that there was no problem finding his guide/interpreter (who would, in any case, be protected not at all by him not naming her, since the Chinese government obviously knows who they assigned to him) and she says that he didn't talk to ANY workers directly.

If he got any real facts about conditions at all, he probably got them from Apple's own corporate responsibility report, since Apple isn't all that happy about the conditions in the factories where its' products are made either.  They have no direct control, since the rules specifically forbid foreign companies having a majority interest in any Chinese firms (all of which are controlled by people with close links to the Communist Party, of course).  Form a union and collectively bargain for better conditions?  The only unions allowed are those headed by the factory managers themselves.  Attempting to form any other unions is a crime.

Quote from: evensgrey on July 25, 2012, 08:18:20 AM
Form a union and collectively bargain for better conditions?  The only unions allowed are those headed by the factory managers themselves.  Attempting to form any other unions is a crime.

So much for communism/statism being pro-worker, right?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: evensgrey on July 25, 2012, 08:18:20 AMOh, and you know the guy who popularized the notion of how bad the factories in China are?  Turns out he made up kind of a LOT of the events he talked about.  And made what turn out to be really obvious attempts to cover it up.  NPR eventually got around to properly confirming things, and discovered that there was no problem finding his guide/interpreter (who would, in any case, be protected not at all by him not naming her, since the Chinese government obviously knows who they assigned to him) and she says that he didn't talk to ANY workers directly.

It's Upton Sinclair and The Jungle all over again.

The Gun Control debate on ABC's This Week this past Sunday was atrocious. I don't always agree with George Will, but I'll be damned if he wasn't the voice of reason during this debate.



The stupidity of this is overwhelming.

Quote from: D on July 25, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
The stupidity of this is overwhelming.

On so many levels.

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 25, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
On so many levels.

The retort to this, however, is win.

July 26, 2012, 08:32:51 AM #2002 Last Edit: July 26, 2012, 08:36:22 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
Some more from BlameThe1st, this time from his blogspot:

http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/09/demotivational-poster-tea-party.html
I guess he never got the meme that they've gone hardcore conservative, being even more likely to vote republican than republicans now...

http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/10/demotivational-poster-christine.html
Seriously?  You whine, bitch and moan about how atheists are petulant, and you go and pull this crap, dude?
Another source of fail in this is that while it's true democrats pull that poisoning the well stuff, he fails to mention that republicans do as well.  I mean, has he seriously never seen a republican try to paint their anarcho capitalist opponents as "pie in the sky" theorists and/or drug smoking hippies, etc?

http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/03/demotivational-poster-stem-cell.html
He IS aware that the arguments on this are a complete red herring right?  The government didn't 'ban' stem cell research of any kind in the USA, as far as I know.  They only banned federal funding of it.  In fact, last I checked, the state of California alone has more money put into stem cell research than most of Europe combined.
Finally, even if a person is against abortion, I don't understand why they'd be against E. Stem Cell research for two reasons.
1.  Unless you believe killing a cell is the same as killing a person (masturbation is murder?) this isn't the same as killing a person--it's a small bunch of cells, dude!
2.  It was already aborted and about to die anyways.  Might as well make the most of things.  But since people against that kind of stem cell research don't want to, THIS is why we say you are against finding those cures.

http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/04/demotivational-poster-walls.html
http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/04/demotivational-poster-difference.html
Because when it is legal, that means it's OK, but if it's not, it's bad! Sorry, but govco is NOT the arbiter of morality, pal.  And to answer your questions, YES!  That makes you a racist, or at least a bigot.
Also, while I'm at it:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19925_the-5-stupidest-things-ever-done-with-borders.html  I do believe Cracked.com just owned you.
I mean, really, this immigration bollocks has been refuted countless times (Harry Brown's four points on the issue, the idea of borders which are a state fiction being legitimized, the video--no longer viewable, sadly, by Stargazer5781 on the subject, etc, etc.  And don't even get me started on Mt. Bureaucracy and the quotas.).  It's a reason why he can't, despite what franks claims, be an anarcho capitalist.


http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2011/04/demotivational-poster-what-if-youre.html
I can't remember much about that, but even so, it's still refuted by a little video from DarkMatter2525 on whether hell is even possible:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcxyGnFU9bA (spoilers, no it isn't).

http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/12/demotivational-poster-atheist-holiday.html
More like a fancy way of saying "Baawww" to atheists.  As this image has shown, Christians have about as much reason to celebrate Christmas as Atheists do:


http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2011/07/elevatorgate-wtf.html
So it's OK for you to paint all atheists with a single brush, but when *we* do it to Christians, it's teh ebil!  Get off your high horse, brony-boy!
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

July 26, 2012, 08:42:44 AM #2003 Last Edit: January 13, 2016, 05:23:53 AM by Travis Retriever
And speaking of franks2732, you know this is going to be full of fail right from the get go:

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"Christianity = Anarcho Capitalism"
Refuted by Jacob Spinney and countless others.

Also, I facepalmed to found out it was about BTF and his channel comments, (censoring or whatever), only to find franks himself disabled ratings on the video.  All on his video about how some dude is censoring comments and is a hypocrite because of it.

Savor the irony.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

July 26, 2012, 09:26:53 AM #2004 Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 09:54:25 PM by T dog
blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/Top-11-Most-Disturbing-MLP-FiM-Fandoms-5-308577492

Of particular note:  "And I don't even know what's worse: the art where they're depicted as human, or the art where they're depicted as ponies. Either way, it's still pedophilia—or rather, pedofillya!"  Um, no.  Pedophilia is the act of having sex with pre-pubescents.  It is NOT simply beating off to the idea of the act.

"This is the type of art that should get MegaSweet a visit from Chris Hansen, not thousands of fans."
Hello, I'm Chris Hanson, and I'm here to ruin your life over a victimless crime.

"And for any Megasweet fanboys out there, please spare me the "but they're just fictional characters" defense."
Fucking thought/victimless crimes, y'all!

"Fictional or not, an underaged minor is still an underaged minor, and pornography featuring them is still child pornography, which, last time I checked, is illegal."
So are drugs, yet I don't see you having any moral issue with them, cherry picker.  Also, last I checked, child pornography, by definition, involve real children--not drawings.

"(And while we're on the subject, so is bestiality!)" *points to above bit about drugs being illegal*  Sorry, but the state is not the ultimate arbiter of morality, pal.  So tell me how beliveing it does makes you a libertarian, much less an anarcho-capitalist again?

But wait, there's more!

"If you get your rocks hard over cartoon ponies, fine! That's your fetish. I'm not here to judge you for it."

"But when you start drooling over underage filly flank, please keep it between yourself and your psychiatrist!"

Um, contradiction, much?

"By all means spare the internet! And spare those poor little fillies!"
Welcome to the internet!  A word of advice, avoid sites like:  Inkbunny, furaffinity, and heaven forbid, 4chan, like the plague.  You're the one whose very username is a play on the 1st Amendment.  As you yourself have said, "Don't blame me! Blame the 1st (Amendment)!" when people don't like your opinions.

"How disturbing is it? As disturbing as seeing your next door neigbor on How To Catch A Predator."
Well, considering the amount of fraud on that show, with a 24 year old and a 14 year old--something that only a uber 'moralistic' 20th century seems to have a problem with, there were also cases of them altering the chat logs where the person chatting claimed to be of legal age, and said she wanted to Role Play as someone younger to make it look like he was into younger folk.  So yeah, not as disturbing as you make it out to be.  Grow a thicker skin, pal!
I find it fascinating that destroying someone's life on what are often false pretenses to begin with doesn't have you saying they should be sued for defamation of character.

"Yeah. The problem is how it's implemented. If it wasn't targeting kids who are only one or two years apart, I wouldn't have that much of a problem."
>>The problem is how it's implemented.
*facepalms*  Because we haven't heard THAT excuse enough times from desperate statists!

And it's a bit ironic that he, as a Christian seems to despise these things, given the Bible's stance on the issues (something about selling young children into slavery being awesome, applause of full on child rape, smashing babies against the rocks because God ordered you to, etc).  Special pleading up in this bitch. X3
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 26, 2012, 09:26:53 AM
blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/Top-11-Most-Disturbing-MLP-FiM-Fandoms-5-308577492

I just want to say that this guy has serious issues that he needs to speak with a psychiatrist about.

QuoteUm, no.  Pedophilia is the act of having sex with per-pubescents.  It is NOT simply beating off to the idea of the act.

Actually, the psychiatric (though not necessarily the legal) definition includes feelings and attractions.

Quote"Fictional or not, an underaged minor is still an underaged minor,

But a fictitious underage minor is one that, by definition, doesn't exist.

QuoteAlso, last I checked, child pornography, by definition, involve real children--not drawings.

Indeed. See Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition.

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 26, 2012, 08:32:51 AM
He IS aware that the arguments on this are a complete red herring right?  The government didn't 'ban' stem cell research of any kind in the USA, as far as I know.  They only banned federal funding of it.

They didn't even quite do that, the ban was only on Federal funding of research involving fetal stem cell lines started after a certain date.  If you weren't using fetal stem cells (and LOTS of stem cell research doesn't) or only using cell lines that predate the cutoff date, your project stayed eligible for Federal grants.

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 26, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
I just want to say that this guy has serious issues that he needs to speak with a psychiatrist about.
What do you mean?

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 26, 2012, 11:56:36 AMActually, the psychiatric (though not necessarily the legal) definition includes feelings and attractions.
I hope so.  If it were the case for the legal definition, it would mean persecuting people for thought crimes.
Someone TRY and defend that!

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 26, 2012, 11:56:36 AMBut a fictitious underage minor is one that, by definition, doesn't exist.
Indeed.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 26, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
What do you mean?

Someone who reacts THAT negatively to harmless activity engaged by others has some serious denial and repression going on.

July 26, 2012, 01:50:11 PM #2009 Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 03:01:16 AM by T dog
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 26, 2012, 01:47:56 PMSomeone who reacts THAT negatively to harmless activity engaged by others has some serious denial and repression going on.
Given how Christian he is, you may be onto something.  But even that is nothing.  Check out his reaction to the PONY.MOV video series:  http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2012/06/top-11-most-disturbing-mlpfim-fandoms-7.html

Even more telling is his lukewarm to borderline positive reaction to the infamous "CupCakes" fanfic (lots of violence against the ponies, etc):  http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/Top-11-Most-Disturbing-MLP-FiM-Fandoms-3-309012068

To be fair, he put the number one spot and considered the worst to be Rainbow Factory which has tons of violence against all of them--especially the youngest characters: http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2012/06/top-11-most-disturbing-mlpfim-fandoms-1.html  And the number two spot as well:  http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2012/06/top-11-most-disturbing-mlpfim-fandoms-2.html for a fanfic where the Cutie Mark Crusaders are tortured raped and killed.
And he put it as number 1 on the sequel list:  http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/Top-13-Even-More-Disturbing-MLP-FiM-Fan-Works-1-412432964 so nevermind then..

That is, until you remember this entire little bit is effectively a rip off of Nostalgia Critic's top 11 lists, which means he's more or less making light of them, while flipping out about the sexual stuff all at once.  Sounds like more serious issues.  Should the economy ever get better, he might would to use some of his extra scratch to pay for a psychiatrist.

(On an unrelated note this makes me wonder just how many anti-furry internet trolls are also closet furries.)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537