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General Discussion / Battledome 2
« on: May 31, 2014, 05:21:05 PM »
I'm doing this post to try and liven up the mood on this forum so here it is :P

Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) vs Dante (Devil May Cry)

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 31, 2014, 03:58:48 AM »
So I foolishly tried to inject some proper skepticism in the comments here:

Once again, statism poisons the mind as much as any religion.

This guy is one piece of work it's very long so I put it in spoilers to save space

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So let me get this straight just because it's a blog you get to brush off the information?

I brought the second source up to show that Homicide rate doubling despite the gun control laws. If gun control is supposed to work it should not have gone up at all or gone down.

Conflict of interest. Oh yeah gun control advocates don't have any conflict of interest. Fucking Hypocrite!

I told him about the chart on page 10 and he simply brushed it off. Look at the rate before 1975 and then see what happens after. How damn hard is that?!

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 30, 2014, 11:17:16 PM »
So I foolishly tried to inject some proper skepticism in the comments here:

Once again, statism poisons the mind as much as any religion.

You should see some of the comments to me

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: May 30, 2014, 04:59:15 PM »

assault weapons have been banned in my state since 1989 and further more since 1999. ANd Like dave said it is #1 according the brady campaign. What more can you fricken want?!

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 29, 2014, 11:40:10 PM »
Well said.

If you want to, yes. :)

Just out of Curiousity, do you think it might be going too far to say the Romans got what they deserved when the barbarians sacked them?

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 29, 2014, 11:04:32 PM »
People love to bitch about how libertarians like Cantwell, Shane, et al are assholes who aren't civil, but honestly? I find that many statists are typically much worse.  For one, look at the article posted.  It's filled with TONS of lame political cartoons making fun of us.  Cantwell, while a black sheep at times, at least has the decency to leave that self congratulatory crap out.

Secondly, at least libertarians--even Cantwell--give them the common courtesy of saying that, "yeah, in a free society, you'd be free to live as you'd like.  You want to live in a communist commune? Go for it.  Just don't force any unwilling others into it." With them, it's "NO YOU GIVE US MONEY/GUNS/BODIES FOR THE ARMY OR WE KILL YOU BECAUSE ITS OUR RIGHT WAAH!"

Like Cantwell said, if someone starts with a threat, people tend not to be so nice regarding their 'feelings' etc.  So the fact that we haven't just thrown our hands up in exasperation and simply shoot them in the face speaks volumes to OUR civility.

That article is also a super fail for another blatant reason--special pleading.  Having guns makes you a nutter..except for the government and their armies, police, who will take your guns away...with threat of being shot...yeah.

I know right. Most of these gun control advocates also give the government a free pass when it comes to murder. These people also seem to think that if they make the police do all their dirty work they are perfectly non violent. I have this analogy for you. Would you say the Romans were not violent people because most of them personally did not kill barbarians themselves but made the Legionnaires do their dirty work for them? FUCK NO! 

BTW I was thinking about making refutations for all points in a different forum post, think I should?

If communism works, why the fuck the Soviet Union no longer around?

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 25, 2014, 12:43:55 AM »
From the comments of the above video,

"Anybody that says a corporation is a creation of the state has never read Man, Economy & State by Murray Rothbard. There's absolutely nothing from stopping a Limited Liability Corporation from existing and abusing people in an anarchistic society.

It should be clear...that corporations are not at all monopolistic privileges; they are free associations of individuals pooling their capital. On the purely free market, such men would simply announce to their creditors that their liability is limited to the capital specifically invested in the corporation, and that beyond this their personal funds are not liable for debts, as they would be under a partnership arrangement. It then rests with the sellers and lenders to this corporation to decide whether or not they will transact business with it. If they do, then they proceed at their own risk. Thus, the government does not grant corporations a privilege of limited liability; anything announced and freely contracted for in advance is a right of a free individual, not a special privilege. It is not necessary that governments grant charters to corporations
Murray Rothbard, in Man, Economy & State

As long as firms like Blackwater, Halliburton, Enron, and Koch can find willing customers they are free to do whatever they like in an an-cap society."--Justin Templer.

Sorry, but as they exist, corporations are, by legal definition, a creation of government.  Deal with it.  Would it kill him to take 5 seconds to check a fucking legal dictionary? My god, man.  And yeah, appeal to authority.  Rothbard was smart and amazing, but if he says corporations are not a creation and legal fiction of the state, he's wrong.  True, it would certainly be possible to have joint ownership in the fom of that (without state favor) in a free market, but that doesn't change the nature of corporations.  And yeah, because of that, it sounds like Rothbard is confusing a corporation with a Trust, much like how he conflated copyright and patents.  And no, you can't use them as examples, as they benefit from state privilege.  So calling them private is like calling public utilities private because you still have to pay the bills for them.  Gimme a fucking break.

From the same video

 TJ AKA the Amazing Atheist

Anarchism is more analogous to religion than governance. Governments, while flawed, have been shown to work. My tax dollars demonstrably do pay for roads, bridges, social safety nets, defense (although I do often take issue with how the military I help fund is used), etc.

Anarchism has never been demonstrated to work outside of very small communal societies that usually implode. Even the internet, the tool your using to spout this garbage, was invented by the government, using tax money. So, you're a fucking moron, basically. And Anarchism is your dogmatic, irrational religion. 

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: May 17, 2014, 05:41:58 PM »

The last line is gold.

Wait did Julius really do this?

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: May 15, 2014, 03:32:10 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 13, 2014, 03:04:00 AM »
It's been a while since I looked at this vid

I was bored so while scrolling through the comments I found this by c0nc0rdance

Ah, the gun utopia of Switzerland.  Let's take a closer look, though.

Most of the guns in Switzerland are in the hands of reservist soldiers.  Most of the non-military guns are match and hunting rifles.  Handguns make up less than 10% of private gun ownership.

90% of murders in Switzerland are committed with guns.  Though their rates of gun homicide are lower than the US, they are higher than most of Western Europe (0.2 gun homicides per 100,000 population in Germany vs. 3.5 gun homicides per 100,000 in Switzerland).

There's a universal registration process including mandatory background check.  Gun import/export is tightly regulated.  Non sporting rifle weapons require a justification and inspection by the local law enforcement.  Recent referenda to require all weapons to be stored in lockers at shooting ranges or armories were defeated by a narrow margin (54% voted against).

A February 27th, 2013 mass shooting outside a factory in Lucerne left four dead, six injured.
The Zug Massacre of September 27th, 2001 was a mass shooting in the canton's parliament building.  A sole gunman, Friedrich Leibacher, using civilian forms of military weapons, managed to shoot and kill 15, and injure another 18.
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Heres my response

+C0nc0rdance Germany's overall murder rate 0.8/100000, Switzerlands overall murder rate- 0.7/100000.

Germany < Switzerland

C0nc0rdance looking at only gun murders is cherry picking. You have to look at the overall homicide rate. Picking on only gun murders in my opinion is also very selfish because you basically implying that people killed by other means are not as valuable those killed with firearms. See how repugnant that sounds?

BTW two of the worst school massacres (erfurt & winneden) were in Germany.

Yes the Swiss laws are stricter than the USA but they are one of the more lenient ones in Western Europe, at least compared to places like the UK and Germany.

Going on about Handguns, Handgun ownership in the UK (muzzle loaders, 1-2 shot break actions for the most part)  is not even one percent of the population yet their rate is 1.2 almost double the Swiss rate and gun control in the UK did not stop the Cumbria shooting in the 2010 either. 

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 10, 2014, 04:16:19 AM »

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So you would rather allow women to be raped then allow them to defend themselves? Cunts!

General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« on: May 10, 2014, 04:11:05 AM »


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