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Title: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: thelastgrungekid on July 12, 2009, 05:51:10 PM
post the dumbest strawmans / arguments against evolution you have ever seen/herd of

this should be fun  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
Shouldn't this be in the episode 2: Creationism forum?
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: thelastgrungekid on July 12, 2009, 06:04:02 PM
oops, well it can still be in general discussion as well because it covers all areas, but i can start this again in the creationist forum if you like?
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: MrBogosity on July 12, 2009, 06:39:53 PM
I'll move it. Wasn't someone talking about forming a Wiki for this?
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: thelastgrungekid on July 12, 2009, 07:04:55 PM
don't know , haven't been here that long lol
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Tom S. Fox on July 12, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
Well, PZ Myers just so happens to have written this (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/07/a_lesson_in_atheist_philosophy.php).
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2009, 11:02:15 PM
I'll move it. Wasn't someone talking about forming a Wiki for this?
We were talking about a Libertarian Wiki, I do believe, not a creationist/evolution wiki.  That's all that I can recall.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: MrBogosity on July 13, 2009, 10:52:49 AM
OK, my bad. Besides, we've already got SkepticWiki for the creationist stuff anyway.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Tom S. Fox on July 13, 2009, 04:30:50 PM
Also, there is RationalWiki.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 13, 2009, 07:33:11 PM
And talk.origins and iron chariots.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: BZ987654 on July 14, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics is pretty stupid
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Tom S. Fox on July 15, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
Why do you bring that up?
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: BZ987654 on July 15, 2009, 12:56:46 PM
Why do you bring that up?

I hear it all the damn time. I live in the bible belt.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2009, 01:24:11 PM
Back on topic:
"We're the product of random chance?"
"If you support evolution being taught in schools, you're supporting social darwinism/survival of the fittest!"
"Evolutionists believe everything came from nothing."
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Tom S. Fox on July 16, 2009, 02:37:02 PM
I hear it all the damn time. I live in the bible belt.

Oh, sorry, I forgot what the actual topic of the thread was. It isn’t as much a strawman as it is a plain falsehood, though.

"Evolutionists believe everything came from nothing."

Yeah, that one pisses me off, too. I once wrote to somebody on YouTube: „ATHEISTS DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING CAME OUT OF NOTHING, YOU IDIOT!!!”

That moron then quote-mined me as: „EVERYTHING CAME OUT OF NOTHING, YOU IDIOT!!!” — even though everyone could see what I actually wrote — and proceeded to mock the strawman he built.

Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2009, 05:05:37 PM
Shane: "We're just not dealing with honest people here."

Not to mention that's the Big Bang Theory they're addressing, which is cosmology, NOT evolution, and not even Abiogenesis.


Another good one:  "Evolutionists believe we come from a lightning strike in a mud puddle" - Ben Stein *coughProjectioncough*

Another annoying one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504 The No Life in a Putter Butter Jar speil (Confusing Evoultion and Abiogenesis...to say the least)


Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: BZ987654 on July 20, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
Another annoying one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504 The No Life in a Putter Butter Jar speil (Confusing Evoultion and Abiogenesis...to say the least)

Confusing reality with an acid trip is more like it for that video.
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: thelastgrungekid on July 27, 2009, 12:12:11 PM
Confusing reality with an acid trip is more like it for that video.

well said good sir
Title: Re: dumbest creationist strawmans ever
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2009, 05:21:56 AM
OK, technically the following videos aren't directly from creationists (they're satire), they still make fun of creationist viewpoints, many of them strawmen of evolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL35aj7k5V4 <-- The old "Have you ever seen creature A give birth to something else?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS5cFfptH4Y <-- Strawman of atheism, social darwinism and evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqIpBR_oco <-- Strawman of the big bang (something I already pointed out, but still funny)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fBlB3eghY <-- Not really a strawman so much as showing how creationists like to change their words to fool others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52gI2Eb15M <-- Strawman of transititional form, among other things.