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Title: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 19, 2009, 01:02:11 AM
Whatever ones you like.  Whether they came from real or fictional sources, show them all!

I believe in no god, no invisible man in the sky, but there is something out there far greater than each of us: A combination of our efforts, a great chain of industry that unites us.  It is only when we act in our own self interest that this chain pulls society in the right direction.  The chain is too powerful and too mysterious for any government to guide.  Any man who tells you different has either a hand in your pocket or a pistol to your neck - Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

Life is not about what happens, it's about how you react to it - My father

Have you ever noticed that if you make something illegal, everyone seems to rush out to go do it just to be unique?  Yet if you make something merely inconvenient, nobody goes anywhere near it.  With this is mind, I have the perfect solution to the drug problem: legalize all drugs...and sell them at the post office! - Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 19, 2009, 08:29:11 AM
"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them. If I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I and I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." --Bernardo de la Paz, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

"I say you cannot administer a wicked law impartially! You can only punish, only destroy. And I warn you: a wicked law, like cholera, destroys everyone that it touches--its upholders as well as its defiers." --Henry Drummond, Inherit the Wind
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 19, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
Wow, Shane, those quotes are awesome.  ;D
I especially like the first one. :)

"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning and observations of a single individual." - Galileo Galilei

"In math there is nothing new; you just start with a few axioms and rearrange them." - Richard Feynman (paraphrased)

"Math is to science, what masturbation is to sex." - Richard Feynman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 19, 2009, 12:20:16 PM
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies." --Groucho Marx

"Facts? I'm sick of facts! You can use them to prove anything that's even remotely true!" --Homer Simpson

"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts; they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering." --The Doctor, Doctor Who: "The Face of Evil"

"Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather...We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before." --John Perry Barlow, A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 19, 2009, 02:38:20 PM
"82% of all statistics are made up on the spot." --My English Professor

I'll do you one better for the next few quotes:  

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(http://mises.org/Community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.00.22.10/Capitalism.jpg)

(http://mises.org/Community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.00.22.11/Gold.jpg)

(http://mises.org/Community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.00.22.12/Intervensionism.jpg)

(http://mises.org/Community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.00.22.13/Welfare.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 19, 2009, 03:05:50 PM
"Bureaucracy is expanding to fit the needs of an expanding bureaucracy." --Ashleigh Brilliant

"Your ideas are too narrow, too crippled. I am a citizen of the universe, and a gentleman to boot!" --The Doctor, Doctor Who: "The Dalek Master Plan"

"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing. The child mind accepts and believes them, and only through great pain and perhaps tragedy can he be in after years relieved of them. In fact, men will fight for a superstition quite as quickly as for a living truth--often more so, since a superstition is so intangible you cannot get at it to refute it, but truth is a point of view, and so is changeable." --Hypatia of Alexandria
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2009, 06:38:39 PM
I can't seem to grasp what it is about Dr. Who that makes people like it.  What stuff I have seen of it I found boring.

And speaking of Sci-Fi stuff:

(http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/72200722046PM_hahahah.jpg) (I'm not actually a Star Trek fan, fyi).

"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.  You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.  You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.  You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.  You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence.  You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.  You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.  You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.  You cannot establish security on borrowed money.  You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves." - Attributed to Abe Lincoln but disputed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 20, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
"Which is the quickest way out of here?" [Everyone points in different directions] "Yes, well, that's democracy for you." --The Doctor, Doctor Who: "Castrovalva"

"If somebody who knew the future pointed out a child to you, and told you that the child would grow up totally evil, to be a ruthless dictator who would destroy millions of lives, could you then kill that child?" --The Doctor, Doctor Who: "Genesis of the Daleks"

"Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard." --The Doctor, Doctor Who: "The Face of Evil"

And something else from the SF scene:

"Many who live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death and judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends." --Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 20, 2009, 10:57:11 PM
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—"No. You move.""
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
   
"I Know What Freedom Is...You Know Compromise." - Captain America Civil War: The Confession.

"People should not fear their governments. Governments should fear their people." - V, V for Vendetta (The movie, not the comic. I know the book's better and the movie was a terrible adaptation, but I still enjoy it, dammit!)

More V quotes, but from the comic book.

"Good evening, London. I thought it time we had a little talk. Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin... I suppose you're wondering why I've called you here this evening. Well, you see, I'm not entirely satisfied with your performance lately... I'm afraid your work's been slipping and... and well, I'm afraid we've been thinking about letting you go. Oh, I know, I know. You've been with the company a long time now. Almost... let me see. Almost ten thousand years! My word, doesn't time fly? It seems like only yesterday... I remember the day you commenced your employment, swinging down from the trees, fresh-faced and nervous, a bone clasped in your bristling fist... "Where do I start, sir?", you asked, plaintively. I recalled my exact words: "There's a pile of dinosaur eggs over there, youngster", I said, smiling paternally all the while. "Get sucking". Well, we've certainly come a long way since then, haven't we? And yes, yes, you're right, in all that time you haven't missed a day. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. Also, please don't think I've forgotten about your outstanding service record, or about all of the invaluable contributions that you've made to the company... Fire, the wheel, agriculture... It's an impressive list, old-timer. A jolly impressive list. Don't get me wrong. But... well, to be frank, we've had our problems too. There's no getting away from it. Do you know what I think alot of it stems from? I'll tell you... It's your basic unwillingness to get on in the company. You don't seem to want to face up to any real responsibility. To be your own boss. Lord knows you've been given plenty of opportunities... We've offered you promotion time and time again, and each time you've turned us down. "I couldn't handle the work, Guv'Nor", you wheedled. "I know my place". To be frank, you're not trying, are you? You see, you've been standing still for far too long, and its starting to show in your work... And, I might add, in your general standard of behavior. The constant bickering on the factory floor has not escaped my attention... nor the recent bouts of rowdiness in the staff canteen. Then of course there's... Hmm. Well, I didn't really want to have to bring this up, but... Well, you see, I've been hearing some disturbing rumors about your personal life. No, never you mind who told me. No names, no pack drill... I understand you are unable to get on with your spouse. I hear that you argue. I am told that you shout. Violence has been mentioned. I am reliably informed that you always hurt the one your love... the one you shouldn't hurt at all. And what about the children, its always the children who suffer, as you're well aware. Poor little mites. What are they to make of it? What are they to make of all your bullying, your despair, your cowardice and all your fondly nurtured bigotries? Really, its not good enough, is it? And its no good blaming the drop in work standards on and management either... though to be sure, the management is very bad. In fact, let us not mince words... The Management is terrible! We've had a string of embezzelers, frauds, liars and lunatics making a string of catastrophic decisions. This is plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who elected these people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after century seems to me nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous and unproven machines. You could have stopped them. All you had to say was "No". You have no spine. You have no pride. You are no longer an asset to the company. I will, however, be generous. You will be granted two years to show me some improvement in your work. If at the end of that time you are still unwilling to make a go of it... you're fired. That will be all. You may return to your labors."

"There's no flesh or blood within this cloak to kill. There's only an idea. Ideas are bulletproof."

Rorschach: "Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon. That's always been the difference between us, Dan."

"None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."

"You see, Doctor, God didn't kill that little girl. Fate didn't butcher her and destiny didn't feed her to those dogs. If God saw what any of us did that night he didn't seem to mind. From then on I knew... God doesn't make the world this way. We do."

I'm obviously something of an Alan Moore fan. And just for good measure...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IReCgN2T-Tw

(For some reason, I can't seem to embed youtube videos.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 21, 2009, 01:02:33 AM
"With government, 'no' means 'yes';
and 'yes' means 'anal.'" - Me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 21, 2009, 01:32:10 AM
"You must treat government as a mad dog, requiring constant vigilance. One single lapse in your attention, and this mad dog will steal your food, tear your furniture, attack your friends and neighbors, or maybe even maul you to death. Keep it in check, and it will perform the only job it could possibly serve- to protect you from other, madder dogs." - me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 21, 2009, 08:46:16 AM
The origin of the V quote:

"When people fear the government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people, there is liberty." --Thomas Paine

Testing the embed of your video:

[yt]IReCgN2T-Tw[/yt]

It's working for me. Great movie, BTW. Never as good as the book, of course, but still worthy of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 21, 2009, 05:08:10 PM
I saw the movie as someone who never heard of the book until that point.  Couldn't get into the movie honestly.  It's really hard to take all the overly heavy handed material seriously in a super hero story.

Though I didn't get as far as that scene.  Anyone care to give me some context behind it?

Anyway, quotes...

When someone says 'there ought to be a law', there probably oughtn't - Penn Jillette

Why do I do this?  Why do I fight creationists?  Because their god is too small - Phil Plait

Never assume yourself beyond temptation for that is the first step towards succumbing to it - Aryll, a character from one of my stories.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 21, 2009, 05:26:21 PM
Well, if we're doing characters from our own stories: "Far greater than the loss of freedom is the loss of hope, for without hope you lose the ability to regain that which was stolen from you."
http://e-stories.org/read-stories.php?sto=4536
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 21, 2009, 06:14:22 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 21, 2009, 05:08:10 PM
I saw the movie as someone who never heard of the book until that point.  Couldn't get into the movie honestly.  It's really hard to take all the overly heavy handed material seriously in a super hero story.

Well, Adrian Veidt (the guy talking about the people he's murdered to save humanity) has faked an attack by a large outside force in order to end the cold war. In the comic, it was an alien attack. In the movie, it was Dr. Manhattan. Rorschach, being something of an objectivist, feels that he cannot accept this false peace and leaves to tell the world. Dr. Manhattan feels that he can't let him do that. The rest plays out as such.

You really can't read Alan Moore books as "super hero" stories. More like stories that have "super heroes" in them. The Watchmen comic book was critically acclaimed for many reasons, one of them being that it deconstructed the super hero archetype and tried to see how the existence of super heroes would deform the world they live in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on September 21, 2009, 06:20:33 PM
"War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield... controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... War becomes routine. "-Snake Metal Gear Solid 4

As for Watchmen, it felt as though Synder just decided to jam in as much of the dialouge as he could with no context or reasoning for it. The only thing that he gave his own spin to (and did masterfully) was the beginning part with Bob Dylan summaring the events from the 1930's until the late 80's when the story picks up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 21, 2009, 07:47:54 PM
Oy...Metal gear solid.  Once it was cool but these days, it's become almost of a satire of itself.  I now cringe every time someone says a sentence with "on the battlefield" in it as though this were the first time it were ever said...

Ooh, Shane, you write too?  I'll have to take a look at that some time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on September 21, 2009, 08:57:47 PM
Yeah, replayed the first one a while ago, and some of it is definitely cheesy. However, did you play 4? Reason I bought a PS3 and it was worth every penny.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 22, 2009, 12:39:50 AM
I refuse to play 4.  The cut scene length is beyond the pale and it's not because there's so much story to tell, it's because much of the dialogue is horribly long winded and redundant.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 22, 2009, 08:24:47 AM
All right, people, back to the quotes:

"Anyone who has to demand respect automatically deserves ridicule. If you deserved respect, you'd already have it. You'd be rolling around in it, like a televangelist in other people's money. No, what you deserve is mockery." --Pat Condell

"My freedom is more important than your faith." --Pat Condell

"What I like most about Christianity is that it's not Islam, which is a major bonus in my opinion. Unfortunately, it is Christianity, which kind of takes most of the shine off it for me." --Pat Condell

"I find it quite ironic that some Christians would like to ban the Harry Potter books, in case their children turn to witchcraft and away from Jesus, as opposed to turning to Christianity, and even further away from Jesus." --Pat Condell

"I can assure you that I venerate free speech as highly as anybody on this planet venerates their god or their scripture or their prophet, and any attempt to suppress free speech is deeply insulting and grossly offensive to me on a personal level...Freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of identity: this is my Holy Trinity, each one an intrinsic aspect of my god: Freedom, the holiest of holies. Yes, it bloody well is! It is absolutely sacred and inviolable beyond any negotiation or compromise, now and forever, amen." --Pat Condell

"The time to start defending your freedom is while you've still got it, not after it's gone." --Pat Condell

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 22, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
"Yes because we all know
Private = greedy fucks and broods of Satan that likes to kick babies during their free time.
Public = Omni-benevolent, generous spirits sent by Yahweh." - 11mc22 (being sarcastic in response to that mecher3k socialist woo).

"Communism is a party!" - A (de)motivational picture I saw on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 22, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
Why is it illegal to sell something that is completely legal to give away for free? - George Carlin on prostitution

A politician is someone who can talk for hours and never actually say anything - don't know who said this one
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 22, 2009, 06:54:54 PM
"'The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.' -- H.L. Mencken
Fuck You, Thunderf00t" -- FlowCell, Thunderf00t: Zealot of The State (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBipkULRTQI)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 22, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Carlin was The Man:

"Keep in mind that Hitler was elected in a full, free democratic election." --George Carlin

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." --George Carlin

"I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." --George Carlin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 22, 2009, 11:37:48 PM
So is ladyattis. :)

"Because the Venus Project doesn't have the market signal of the price mechanism to direct the efficient allocation of scarce resources and to tell people what needs to be produced, how to produce it, and so on.  China tried it and failed.  The old Soviet Union tried and failed.  But they were very persistent and tried ways of mucking around with it and were that much worse off because of it.  The Zeitgeist Addendum people will be just as disheartened when they try and it doesn't work. It's a failure: get over it."  ladyattis, Corrections and further criticisms of the Venus project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZu4sqzp80)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 24, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
"If you're innocent, you should have no problem with me probing your ass." A. Jones, Catholic School: Archon (Episode Seven) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZqPJpIYyyw)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 24, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
"Freedom is the answer.  Now what was the question?" --A bumper sticker Shane once saw.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 24, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 24, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
"Freedom is the answer.  Now what was the question?" --A bumper sticker Shane once saw.

"Politicians are like diapers: they should be changed regularly, and often for the same reason." --A t-shirt I once saw.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 01:44:52 AM
"5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions." -- A t-shirt I once saw

"Who would the planet be better off without? (a question to TheAmazingAtheist in an interview)

We need a lot less fucking bureaucrats and red tape. Why does everything require a permit and proof of ID and requisition form B-12? My dad has three licenses with three different names and three different ages as a kid because the folks at the DMV just took your word for all of it. Now, some might say that this is a terrible thing - but it was a great thing. It meant that you could start over, that you’re life wasn’t under scrutiny and that your mistakes didn’t haunt you to the grave. People need breathing room and rules that are flexible - I think the cynicism and paranoia of my generation is largely due to this awareness that you are chained to your identity. You have a designation number and your fingerprints are on record and that is your inescapable reality. People don’t feel like people anymore. They feel like cattle, with ID tags in their ears, branded as property of their respective governments." -- TJ's response.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 25, 2009, 03:16:34 PM
"The only alternative to the Invisible Hand is the Iron Fist." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 03:39:53 PM
(Good one, Shane. :) )

I love the quotes on your site:

“Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” —George Carlin

“‘Thou shalt not kill.’ Murder. The fifth commandment. But if you think about it, religion has never really had a problem with murder. Not really. No, more people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at slavery, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, and the World Trade Center, and you’ll see how seriously the religious folks take ‘Thou shalt not kill.’ The more devout they are, the more they see murder as negotiable.” —George Carlin

“First the Nazis came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.” —Pastor Martin Niemoller

“You might think it hard to come up with anything nice to say about Islam, but I can think of a few things. Firstly, I like their symbol, the crescent moon. I find it much more attractive than the cross, probably because it doesn’t have anybody nailed to it.” —Pat Condell

“Of course, I have to balance these doubts against the counterargument, which is, ‘But it’s in the Bible, so it must be true, because the Bible is the word of God, because it says it is, so it must be true, because the Bible is the word of God,’ etc., etc. Clearly for some people, God doesn’t move so much in mysterious ways, as in ever-decreasing circles.” —Pat Condell

“Hey, I don’t want to get abusive here, because that creates enemies. On the other hand, you’re already my enemy, so what the hell, you murdering lump of slime!” —Pat Condell, to Osama bin Laden

“Now, thanks to the sacred war on freedom—I mean, terror—America has something called the Patriot Act, which is essentially a charter for fascism in the land of the free. It could have been written by Hitler, somebody with whom I think you [Osama bin Laden] would have alot in common. After all, a bunker, or a cave, ultimately, there’s only one way out, isn’t there?” —Pat Condell

“I think if Hell does exist, it’s probably...something more subtle that consumes from within, something like eternal regret, perhaps, something not done, not challenged, not risked, not loved enough. Or maybe it’s just burning in fire.” —Pat Condell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 03:40:40 PM
"The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall and if you don't go there they shoot you." —P.J. O'Rourke

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan

"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you need is also big enough to take away everything you have." —Barry Goldwater

"Social Security operates on a very simple principle: the politicians take your money from you and squander it." —Harry Browne

"Republicans campaign like Libertarians and govern like Democrats." —Harry Browne

"Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free." —Harry Browne

"There already are 20,000 federal gun laws and regulations on the books. If those laws haven't made America safe by now, why should we think 20,001 laws will suffice?" —Harry Browne

"If you give a good politician the power to do good things, you automatically give a bad politician the power to do bad things." —Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 03:41:08 PM
"Why is it, when you go to a vegetarian's house, you hardly ever see vegetables in the freezer? No, you find funny little make-believe foods, like vegetarian bacon, vegetarian hot dogs, vegetarian hamburgers, vegetarian beef stroganoff—well, what about vegetarian vegetables, huh? If your food is so much better, how come you have to pretend you're eating mine?" —Tim Slagle

"I think the environmental alarmists are the intellectual descendents of the people who told us that if we didn't throw virgins into the volcano, a giant sea monster would come around and eat us. Then, sooner or later, there'd be an eclipse, and they'd say, 'See? We told you this would happen!' 'No, you said we'd be eaten by a giant sea monster.' 'Well, whaddya think's blocking out the sun?' 'Oh! Well, we'd better throw in a virgin, then! I sure hope we can find one...'" —Tim Slagle

"Nothing ruins a perfectly good 'Drugs Kill' campaign faster than a pothead who can win the Triathlon." —Tim Slagle

"Go ahead, tailgate; see if I care." —Jamie Hyneman in a supersized rocket car, Mythbusters

"I just had one of those, 'What the hell are we doing?' moments." —Adam Savage, Mythbusters

"To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target." —Ashleigh Brilliant
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 03:42:08 PM
"You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat." —John Perry Barlow, A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

"How hard can it be to blow up a room full of gasoline?" —Adam Savage, Mythbusters

"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." —Niels Bohr

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy....The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." —James Madison
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
"The problem with political moderates, is that to them, extreme means a decrease in government, keeping government the same, or 'too much increase' in government.  A political moderate is therefore, someone who wants government to continue to grow at the same pace, expanding its influence, size and scope, while ignoring all the past failures that were caused by more of the same increases in government that they advocate.  And they wonder why Libertarians think they're stupid."  --Me

"Does this mean that If we had a full reserve banking system along with a gold standard AND zero regulation of the financial markets, then the financial crisis wouldn't have happened?

Also, by keeping the financial markets that way, would this prevent the huge market crashes (e.g. the 1921, 1929 crashes and the 2008 collapse) that can cause even people with diverse stock/investment portfolios to lose most or even all of their savings?" --Me, in response to Shane's video How Fractional Reserve Banking Increases Inflation - HD version

"Yes, that's EXACTLY what it means." --Shane, in response to my above question.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 26, 2009, 09:34:25 AM
"The society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither. The society that puts freedom before equality will end up with a great measure of both." --Milton Friedman, Free to Choose Part 5: "Created Equal"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 26, 2009, 07:16:45 PM
So let me get this straight, we ban smoking everywhere we see it, we won't even let them make smoking lounges where smokers can go and there is no reason whatsoever for a non smoker to go anywhere near it...yet we're allowing the middle eastern folks to have hookah smoking lounges because "it's part of their culture"?  So kids, what's the moral of this story?  In the ongoing battle to learn who is the greater evil, it seems political correctness has beat out behavior policing and takes the belt - One of my rants
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 26, 2009, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 26, 2009, 07:16:45 PM
So let me get this straight, we ban smoking everywhere we see it, we won't even let them make smoking lounges where smokers can go and there is no reason whatsoever for a non smoker to go anywhere near it...yet we're allowing the middle eastern folks to have hookah smoking lounges because "it's part of their culture"?  So kids, what's the moral of this story?  In the ongoing battle to learn who is the greater evil, it seems political correctness has beat out behavior policing and takes the belt - One of my rants
(You forgot the put the quote symbols: "" around your quote, dude. :P )

"'I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything...' —retard anon" —Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2009, 01:03:17 AM
"If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves." - Thomas Sowell

"Maybe people wouldn't try to get welfare if the government wasn't taxing them to death." - Shane
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 27, 2009, 03:15:26 AM
Okay, time for some silliness.

"Think for a moment about the concept of the flamethrower. Okay? The flamethrower. Because we have them. Well, *we* don't have them, the army has them. That's right. We don't have any flamethrowers. I'd say we're fucked if we have to go up against the army, wouldn't you? But we have flamethrowers. And what this indicates to me, it means that at some point, some person said to himself, "Gee, I sure would like to set those people on fire over there. But I'm way to far away to get the job done. If only I had something that would throw flame on them." Well, it might have ended right there, but he mentioned it to his friend. His friend who was good with tools. And about a month later, he was back. "Hey, quite a concept!" WHHOOOOOOOOSSHHH! And of course the army heard about it, and they came around. "We'd like to buy about five hundred-thousand of them please. We have some people we'd like to throw flame on. Give us five hundred thousand and paint them dark brown. We don't want anyone to see them." " -George Carlin

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 27, 2009, 09:34:04 AM
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime

What?  He was my hero when I was a kid!  ><
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 27, 2009, 05:18:45 PM
"Hello, dear lady. A lovely evening, is it not? Forgive me for intruding...I thought it was time we had a little chat, you and I. Ahh...I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You may call me V. Madam Justice, V. V, this is Madam Justice. Hello, Madam Justice. 'Good evening, V.'

"There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...'The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.' I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, 'Who is that lady?' And he'd say, 'That's Madam Justice.' And I'd say, 'Isn't she pretty.'

"Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal. That was a long time ago. I'm afraid there's someone else now...

"'What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!' I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms! Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform. 'Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...'

"Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots! Well? Cat got your tongue? I thought as much. Very well. So you stand revealed at last. You are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

"'Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?' Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved."

[He sets down a heart-shaped box with a bow.]

"Here is a final gift. I leave it at your feet."

[He bows, and walks away, and the statue of Madam Justice explodes, taking the Old Bailey with her...]

--V for Vendetta
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 28, 2009, 03:48:28 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 27, 2009, 09:34:04 AM
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime

What?  He was my hero when I was a kid!  ><

Same here, though I was more into Beast Wars and Dinobot. Yeeessssss. (If I reference the main villain's speech patterns, does that count as a quote?) It's a good sentiment, nonetheless.

    [The Maximals pretend that Dinobot is seriously injured to trick Starscream]
    Rattrap: [to Dinobot] Lie still! And GROAN, for cryin' out loud! You're supposed to be half-dead!
    Dinobot: If you don't shut up, Vermin, you will be my role model!

    [Dinobot is telling the Maximals about how he fought a clone of his]
    Rattrap: Besides, if there was a clone, then where is he?
    Dinobot: I'm afraid he's gone for good. A shame really. He was such a handsome creature. And...quite tasty.
    [Dinobot flicks a piece of flesh from between his teeth at Optimus Primal's face and belches. Cheetor gives him a thumbs-up, Rattrap stares at him, Rhinox frowns and Optimus says...]
    Optimus Primal: You're disgusting.
    [Dinobot smiles]

DINOBOT'S LAST WORDS:

Tell my tale to those who ask it. Tell it truly, the evil deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest...is silence.

Quote"Hello, dear lady. A lovely evening, is it not? Forgive me for intruding...I thought it was time we had a little chat, you and I. Ahh...I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You may call me V. Madam Justice, V. V, this is Madam Justice. Hello, Madam Justice. 'Good evening, V.'

"There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...'The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.' I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, 'Who is that lady?' And he'd say, 'That's Madam Justice.' And I'd say, 'Isn't she pretty.'

"Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal. That was a long time ago. I'm afraid there's someone else now...

"'What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!' I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms! Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform. 'Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...'

"Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots! Well? Cat got your tongue? I thought as much. Very well. So you stand revealed at last. You are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

"'Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?' Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved."

[He sets down a heart-shaped box with a bow.]

"Here is a final gift. I leave it at your feet."

[He bows, and walks away, and the statue of Madam Justice explodes, taking the Old Bailey with her...]

--V for Vendetta

Best. Comic. Scene. Ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 28, 2009, 06:59:23 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on September 28, 2009, 03:48:28 AMTell my tale to those who ask it. Tell it truly, the evil deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest...is silence.

Well, I guess if you want great last words, be sure to take them from Shakespeare!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 28, 2009, 07:14:44 AM
Gotta love those Hamlet quotes:

"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

"'Sblood, do you think I am easier to be played on than a pipe? Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, you cannot play upon me."

"Hear you sir; What is the reason that you use me thus? I lov'd you ever: but it is no matter. Let Hercules himself do what he may, the cat will mew, and dog will have his day."

"If thou didst ever hold me in thy heart, absent thee from felicity awhile, and in this harsh world draw thy breath in pain to tell my story. O, I die, Horatio; the potent poison quite o'er-crows my spirit: I cannot live to hear the news from England, but I do prophesy the election lights on Fortinbras: he has my dying voice. So tell him, with the occurrents, more and less, which have solicited. The rest is silence." (his dying words)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 28, 2009, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 28, 2009, 06:59:23 AM
Well, I guess if you want great last words, be sure to take them from Shakespeare!

Dinobot quoted Shakespeare a lot in the show.  Really interesting considering he doesn't at first strike you as the artsy type.

"A perfect world, the promise of every fascist..." - Spiderman

"I wish you intelligence.  I would wish you luck but that runs out sooner than you think" - Archmage Thalantyr

"Who is more the fool?  The man who sits in his old chair enjoying the sunshine or the man who labors long for a fine new chair he might get to sit in some day?" - Halfling proverb

"Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked.  It favors the prepared" - unknown

"A man creates, a parasite says 'where's my share?'  A man builds, a parasite says 'what will the neighbours think?'  A man invents, a parasite says 'careful, you may be stepping on the toes of God'" - Andrew Ryan
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 29, 2009, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 28, 2009, 08:11:30 PM
Dinobot quoted Shakespeare a lot in the show.  Really interesting considering he doesn't at first strike you as the artsy type.

Well, he was one of my favorite characters. I'm afraid I was too young to be aware of the Shakespeare references at the time. Blame bad public schooling. =P

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul. – George Bernard Shaw

America needs fewer laws, not more prisons. – James Bovard

War is just one more big government program. – Joseph Sobran

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. – John Adams (1814)

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.– Benjamin Franklin

One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation. – Thomas B. Reed (1886)

If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all. – Jacob Hornberger (1995)

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. – P.J. O'Rourke

The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates. – Tacitus

Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. – George Washington
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 29, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on September 29, 2009, 09:44:57 AMThey that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

Okay, now you've gone and hit a button...It's "Those who would give up..." Why would Benjamin Franklin, an incredibly intelligent man and one of the greatest writers who ever lived, use such horribly bad grammar as that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 29, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 29, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
Okay, now you've gone and hit a button...It's "Those who would give up..." Why would Benjamin Franklin, an incredibly intelligent man and one of the greatest writers who ever lived, use such horribly bad grammar as that?

Oops! Sorry! I'll fix it. I guess I really am a bit out of it. >.<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 29, 2009, 12:21:57 PM
It's okay, a lot of people quote it that way, for some reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 29, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
"We have once again arrived at a moment in history where the truth can be defined as 'that which you can make other people believe.' The methodology for creating that belief is repetition. Say something enough times and it becomes, for millions of people, the truth. I am endowed like a stallion. This is why control of the media equals control of the populace. I am endowed like a stallion. And also why a state run television news channel is so very dangerous. I am endowed like a stallion. Now there are those who would argue this has already happened and that a certain cable news channel is actually a covert extension of our government. I am endowed like a stallion. The fact that the channel is run by a high-ranking party official, an anchor person from the channel became a White House spokesman, and another top-ranking party official became an on-air news commentator is often used to make this argument. I am endowed like a stallion. Of course, this fact would be entirely inconsequential if the oft-repeated falsehoods they attempt to imbed into the Zeitgeist were simply amusing, or at worst, inane. I am endowed like a stallion. But, unfortunately, that is not the case. I am endowed like a stallion. The heavy repetition of lies and smears for political gain are by no means inconsequential. I am endowed like a stallion. Which is why each and every one of us must use whatever resources we have at our disposal to disseminate the actual truth. I am endowed like a pony." --Chuck Lorre
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 29, 2009, 01:42:44 PM
"The point is, this might not seem important to you foreigners with your fancy food and your crap beaches, but Australia is a warning. It shows the world just how easy it can be to suppress what you and your hoary minions disapprove of, by exploiting bureaucracy and waving the banner of "think of the children." And even if the current authorities aren't actually evil, but are genuinely motivated to protect the innocent through completely retarded and ineffectual methods, then what happens a few governments down the line, when the same power could be in the hands of literally anyone? (anyone with a lot of money and people skills, anyway).

How easy would it be to refuse classification to games that criticize the government? Or news programs depicting jackbooted police stomping on the faces of dissenters like they're the Appalachian Trail? How soon before they can start refusing classification to human beings? We might as well just go whole hog and create "Logan's Run." At least then we'd all get laid." - Yahtzee, talking about Left4Dead 2 and other games being banned in Australia
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 29, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
From Jerome Bixby's The Man From Earth:

"Everywhere, creation myths, new Gods, so many, so different. I finally realized that it was...probably all hogwash." --John

"Anything is possible!" --Various characters

"Time...We can't see it, we can't hear it, we can't weigh it, we can't measure it in a laboratory. It's a subjective sense of becoming what we are instead of what we were a nanosecond ago, becoming what we will be in another nanosecond." --Dan

"Are you a vampire, John? Even an unknowing one? Do you stand alive and tall in a graveyard that you helped to fill? Bored, perhaps lonely, because your heart cannot keep its treasures?" --Will

"Please, permit me to be infantile by myself." --Will

"How can it be sacrilege? He hasn't said anything yet!" --Harry

"I can give you the Ten Commandments in ten words: Don't. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't!" --Harry

"Edith, I was raised on the Torah, my wife, on the Koran. My oldest son is an atheist. My youngest is a Scientologist. My daughter is studying Hinduism. I imagine that there is room there for a holy war in my living room, but we practice live and let live." --Harry

"Taken alone, the philosophical teachings of Jesus are Buddhism with a Hebrew accent: kindness, tolerance, brotherhood, love...a ruthless realism acknowledging that life is as it is here on Earth, here and now. The Kingdom of God, meaning goodness, is right here, where it should be." --Dan

"But a talking snake make a lady eat an apple, so we're screwed. Heaven and Hell were peddled so priests could rule through seduction and terror, and save our souls...that we never lost in the first place." --John

"What does Jesus have to say to those present who find it difficult to believe in him?" --Will "Believe in what he tried to teach, without rigmarole. Piety is not what the lessons bring to people; it's the mistake they bring to the lessons." --John

"That is fascinating, isn't it? A brave attempt to teach Buddhism in the west. It's no wonder he failed. We're not ready for it." --Dan

"Did you know Voltaire was the first to suggest that the universe was created by a gigantic explosion? I think Paul would agree. And then Goethe was the first to suggest that spiral nebulae were swirling masses of stars. We now call them galaxies. It's kind of funny how often new concepts of science find their first tentative forms of expression in the arts." --John

"Is that Psych 101?" --John "No, it's Woman, One on One!" --Sandy

"I sense...space. A kind of latitude of what we happily call reality, in which, as everybody keeps saying...anything's possible." --Dan

"I'm gonna go home, and I'm gonna watch Star Trek for a dose of sanity." --Dan

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 30, 2009, 10:41:31 AM
Richard Dawkins:

"I do remember one formative influence in my undergraduate life. There was an elderly professor in my department who had been passionately keen on a particular theory for, oh, a number of years, and one day an American visiting researcher came and he completely and utterly disproved our old man's hypothesis. The old man strode to the front, shook his hand and said, 'My dear fellow, I wish to thank you, I have been wrong these fifteen years.' And we all clapped our hands raw. That was the scientific ideal, of somebody who had a lot invested, a lifetime almost invested in a theory, and he was rejoicing that he had been shown wrong and that scientific truth had been advanced."

"What worries me about religion is that it teaches people to be satisfied with not understanding."

"We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively outnumbers the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here."

"You've just said a very revealing thing. Are you telling me that the only reason you don't steal and rape and murder is that you're frightened of God?"

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

"[Pope John Paul II] suffered an assassination attempt in Rome, and attributed his survival to intervention by Our Lady of Fatima: 'A maternal hand guided the bullet'. One cannot help but wonder why she didn't guide it to miss him altogether. Others might think the team of surgeons who operated on him for six hours deserved at least a share of the credit. But perhaps their hands too were maternally guided. The relevant point is that it wasn't just Our Lady, who in the Pope's opinion guided the bullet, but specifically Our Lady of Fatima. Presumably Our Lady of Lourdes, Our Lady of Guadeloupe, Our Lady of Medjugorje, Our Lady of Akita, Our Lady of Zeitoun, Our Lady of Garabandal, and Our Lady of Knock, were busy on other errands at the time."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 30, 2009, 09:02:02 PM
"Marriage is a religious contract to theists, and a social contract to atheists and agnostics. In either case the government shouldn't be able to regulate it. Imagine if the government regulated friendships, and some politician said blacks and whites can't be friends. It is a repulsive idea, and the repulsion you feel from that, is the repulsion gays must feel every day." --TheHeather1985 in response to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LCETmYa-g
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 01, 2009, 06:13:56 PM
"I am a skeptic because I have experienced the joy of being wrong." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 02, 2009, 02:17:51 PM
I'm adding this quote just for its silliness. No jokes about "motto of the Republican party" or whatever.

http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/img/movie-reviews/zardoz/penisIsEvil.mp3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 02, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
@Virgil:  LOL!!!

"That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario."  --Luigi "The Super Mario Brothers Super Show"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 03, 2009, 10:52:00 AM
"I think if God is dead, he laughed himself to death. Because, you see, we live in Eden. Genesis has got it all wrong--we never left the Garden! Look about you; this is paradise! It's hard to find, I'll grant you, but it is here. Under our feet, beneath the surface, all around us is everything we want. The Earth is shining under the soot. We are all fools." --Justin Playfair, They Might Be Giants

"There are no masses in Dodge City, only individuals taking responsibility for their own actions." --Justin Playfair, They Might Be Giants

"[Don Quixote] had a point. Of course, he carried it a bit too far. He thought that every windmill was a giant. That's insane. But, thinking that they might be? Well, all the best minds used to think the world was flat. But what if it isn't? It might be round. And bread mold might be medicine. If we never looked at things and thought of what might be, why, we'd all still be out there in the tall grass with the apes." --Justin Playfair, They Might Be Giants
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 04, 2009, 06:13:50 PM
"Compassionate Government:  Because nothing says 'I care' like a gun to the head!" --Demotivational Poster on the Mises forum I once saw.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 06, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." --Carl Sagan.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 09, 2009, 11:39:28 PM
"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain."
— Frédéric Bastiat (The Law)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 11, 2009, 01:18:56 AM
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaPlRvjm3PY[/yt]

"Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaPlRvjm3PY
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
"Yo Taylor, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. One of the best videos of all time!" —Kanye West, at the VMA's
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 23, 2009, 11:06:09 AM
"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. Yet this sort of aggressive ignorance is inherent in the creed of anarcho-communism." --Murray N. Rothbard, The Death Wish of the Anarcho-Communists (http://mises.org/story/2197)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 06, 2009, 05:02:55 PM
"American conservatives can always be counted on to denounce a lame-duck president of their own party who is sinking in the polls. They worked hard to make Bush president, refrained from criticizing his egregious policies for years, focused all their ire on a mythically powerful left, and now that things aren't working out so well, they bail out.

"The conservatives denounce their presidents for the same reason that the left denounces Stalin: they want to evade responsibility for the results of the policies imposed by monsters that they themselves created. When the left does this, we know not to take it too seriously. If you give the state the right to expropriate all private property, you can't be too surprised when dictators take over.

"Similarly, when the whole of your intellectual enterprise has been wrapped up in celebrating the nation-state and its wars, condemning civil liberties, casting aspersions on religious liberty, and heralding the jail and the electric chair as the answer to all of society's problems, you can't complain when your policies produce tin-pot despotic imperialists like Bush. You have no intellectual apparatus with which to beat them back."

--Lew Rockwell, The Great Conservative Hoax (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/conservative-hoax.html)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 20, 2009, 06:53:20 PM
"May those who love prosper; let them perish who cannot love; let them perish twice over who veto love." --Lucius Caecilius Iucundus of Pompeii
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 20, 2009, 10:39:13 PM
"Economics does not say that isolated government interference with the prices of only one commodity or a few commodities is unfair, bad, or unfeasible. It says that such interference produces results contrary to its purpose, that it makes conditions worse, not better, from the point of view of the government and those backing its interference." Ludwig Von Mises, Human Action p. 758; p. 764 Price control
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 06, 2009, 02:05:20 PM
"I don't respect your beliefs, and I don't care if your offended."  --Pat Condell, his website introduction
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 06, 2009, 02:40:53 PM
"Culture is economy."  --ladyattis
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 08, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
"'So Capitalism refers to [t]he control of means of produ[c]tion. You can have state capitalism and private capitalism.'

No, you can't.

Capitalism refers to private ownership of capital goods. Ownership entails full control over those capital goods.

State capitalism is an oxymoron. The proper term for what you want to describe is called Fascism--and it is *not* Capitalist." --BigDaddyBongos in response to oraci.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 10, 2009, 12:02:24 AM
Y'all like Carlin quotes, eh?
Even this one?

" One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is "Libertarian." People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it's just one more bullshit political philosophy. " George Carlin in Napalm and Silly Putty
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Post by: Virgil0211 on December 10, 2009, 12:43:41 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 10, 2009, 12:02:24 AM
Y'all like Carlin quotes, eh?
Even this one?

" One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is "Libertarian." People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it's just one more bullshit political philosophy. " George Carlin in Napalm and Silly Putty

Meh, he was like that with everyone. =P
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 10, 2009, 12:47:46 AM
He sure was an equal-oppurtunity offender. ;D
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2009, 01:44:10 PM
Nickelodeon2002:  "A Bachelor's degree is now worth what a high school diploma was worth 30 years ago.  The dream of easier success has been propagated via the education establishment to promote their own well being rather then that of the student.  I have no doubt that a masters degree, then a PhD will soon be the 'requirement' for easy success, at great expense to the student.  At some point in time however the quality of instruction and its actual economic value is going factor into the system.  Can u say 'Ed' bubble?"
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2009, 01:51:47 PM
(More insightful comments from this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM23TZxzOw8 )

Nyteaparty:  "This guy from Columbia got schooled."

APRtunedAudi:  "He sure did, Keynesian economists are probably the dumbest people on the planet.... its funny how the poster child for the Keynesian theory is now Robert Mugabe."

Me:  "Ha!
Robert Mugabe = Poster-boy for Keynesian Stupidity, or PKS.
I love it!"
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 13, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
"The Right to Bear Arms is not the Right to Hunt Deer. Our founding fathers were never worried about having the right to hunt taken away from them. The Right to Bear Arms is the right to arm one's population in the event an unjust government needs to be overthrown. Right now, the Right to Bear Arms is the only form of term limitations we have in the Constitution. That's why we need Uzis." --Tim Slagle
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 13, 2009, 04:43:49 PM
"I think the people who say we're going to die from Global Warming are the intellectual descendants of the people who said that if we didn't throw a virgin into the volcano a giant sea monster would come around and eat us. And then, sooner or later, there'd be an eclipse, and they'd say, 'See? We told you this would happen!' 'No, you said we'd be eaten by a giant sea monster.' 'Well, whaddya think's blocking out the sun?' 'Oh! Well, we'd better throw in a virgin, then! Sure hope we can find one...'" --Tim Slagle
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 13, 2009, 05:07:54 PM
"There was an audio book version of the book version of the film version of [Al Gore's] PowerPoint presentation ["An Inconvenient Truth"]. It was read by Beau Bridges, Blair Underwood, and Cynthia Nixon. Apparently, it took three actors to get through the whole thing without falling asleep." --Tim Slagle
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 13, 2009, 05:11:35 PM
So is that why Al Gore invented the Internet! That way at least someone listens to his speeches.
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Post by: AHPMB on December 13, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
Thomas Paine, my favorite American of all time:

"Society is produced by our wants, government is produced by our wickedness...Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state is a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one."
From Common Sense

James Madison

"Religion. The inefficacy of this restraint on individuals is well known. The conduct of every popular Assembly, acting on oath, the strongest of religious ties, shows that individuals join without remorse in acts against which their consciences would revolt, if proposed to them separately in their closets."

From his letters to Jefferson

Richard Dawkins quoting a former editor of New Scientist Magazine

"Science is interesting, and if you don't like it you can fuck off."
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 13, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
"Al Gore has said that 'El Niño' is Spanish for 'Global Warming.' I think 'Al Gore' is Democratic for 'Dan Quayle.'" --Tim Slagle
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 13, 2009, 11:13:54 PM
"I think Shane Killian is a pretty cool guy; eh pwns hoaxtards and creationists and doesn't afraid of anything!" - Me, in response to Guest655321 saying I looked like Shane's "lackey".
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f1/Trollface_HD.jpg)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 20, 2009, 06:44:51 PM
"What you are not permitted to do in a free market is use violence in the attempt to create an artificial scarcity." --Murray N. Rothbard, Power & Market
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 21, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
"As the area of your knowledge grows, so too does the perimeter of your ignorance." --Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 21, 2009, 02:44:30 PM
"Unless you are a creationist, a moon hoaxer and/or a State Cultist, in which case, there is no bound to the level of ignorance you will possess." --Me in response to the above quote.
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 21, 2009, 02:54:31 PM
That wasn't what he meant. What he said was basically, the more you learn, the more you realize there is to learn. The dogmatists keep their knowledge low, and so remain ignorant of their own ignorance.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 21, 2009, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 21, 2009, 02:54:31 PM
That wasn't what he meant. What he said was basically, the more you learn, the more you realize there is to learn. The dogmatists keep their knowledge low, and so remain ignorant of their own ignorance.
Oh, I know what he meant and I whole-hardily agree with him.
I was just feeling snarky.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 21, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
"People say I'm indecisive but I don't know about that." --A U.S. President I can't remember the name of
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 22, 2009, 02:13:10 PM
"Most people call me a contrarian but I don't agree with them." Something I read somewhere, sometime by someone.
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Post by: valvatica on December 22, 2009, 02:22:04 PM
"Liberty cannot be imposed on anybody, only Tyranny can. If Liberty is given, then the last man on Earth would be in chains." --FlowCell
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 22, 2009, 02:22:34 PM
"I know we all agree that we ought to love one another, but I know that there are people out there who do not love their fellow human beings, and I HATE people like that!" --Tom Lehrer
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
"If you don't hear from me in a month, send dinner." --The king of Hyrule (via sentence mixing on a youtube poop)
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 22, 2009, 04:53:55 PM
More Tom Lehrer:

"I find enough mystery in mathematics to satisfy my spiritual needs. I think, for example, that pi is mysterious enough (don't get me started!) without having to worry about God. Or if pi isn't enough, how about fractals? or quantum mechanics?"

"I do have a cause though. It's obscenity. I'm for it!"

"One problem that recurs more and more frequently these days, in books and plays and movies, is the inability of people to communicate with the people they love: husbands and wives who can't communicate, children who can't communicate with their parents, and so on. And the characters in these books and plays and so on, and in real life, I might add, spend hours bemoaning the fact that they can't communicate. I feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up."

"The real issues I don't think most people touch. The Clinton jokes are all about Monica Lewinsky and all that stuff and not about the important things, like the fact that he wouldn't ban landmines."

"I think my target was not so much evil, but benign stupidity: people doing stupid things without realizing or, instead, thinking they were doing good."
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 22, 2009, 04:53:55 PMMore Tom Lehrer:

"I find enough mystery in mathematics to satisfy my spiritual needs. I think, for example, that pi is mysterious enough (don't get me started!) without having to worry about God. Or if pi isn't enough, how about fractals? or quantum mechanics?"
I think I like this guy.
He must be even more fascinated with Euler's Identity:  e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 22, 2009, 07:16:46 PM
"In the Bible, there's The Old Testament, and The New Testament, but the New Testament's 2000 years old. I think it should be called The Old Testament and The Slightly More Recent Testament." --Steven Wright
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 22, 2009, 08:21:28 PM
People tend to think us Jedi can do no wrong but we all know it's not like that at all.  I'm not just talking about how we can fall to the dark side either.  I mean sure, yes that is proof of our fallibility but I mean how even the purest, most noble, robe wearing jedi can act with nothing but the best of intentions and still get it completely wrong - Jole, Knights of the Old Republic
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2009, 05:04:11 PM
H.L. Mencken:

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary."

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

"Progress: The process whereby the human race has got rid of whiskers, the vermiform appendix  and God."

"There is always a well-known solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong."

"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos."

"The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-bye to the Bill of Rights."

"Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty—and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."

"I believe in only one thing and that thing is human liberty. If ever a man is to achieve anything like dignity, it can happen only if superior men are given absolute freedom to think what they want to think and say what they want to say. I am against any man and any organization which seeks to limit or deny that freedom."

"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2009, 05:48:28 PM
"Just because something is imaginary, doesn't mean it isn't real!" --The dude from the Imagination Land Episode of South Park.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2009, 05:51:17 PM
"Drugs are bad, MKay?" --Mr. Mackey on South Park, and me on Shane's Drug War videos. :P
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2009, 06:20:31 PM
If we're doing cartoon characters:

"Facts—I'm sick of facts! You can use them to prove anything that's even REMOTELY true!" —Homer Simpson
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2009, 06:27:47 PM
Shane?
I think you already posted that. :P

"I love the feel of grain
The screams of a man in pain
Blood coming down like rain, showering me!

That everlasting thrill
During the final kill
Body dumped in a landfill
Got off Scot free." --Brown Ferret, Ferrets, by Jason Steele (http://www.filmcow.com/ferrets.html)
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
Bah, it's hard to keep track in a 7-page thread...
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 23, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
Bah, it's hard to keep track in a 7-page thread...
You must love that quote.

"Ich bin ein Berliner."  --JFK
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Post by: Virgil0211 on December 24, 2009, 01:23:05 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 23, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
You must love that quote.

"Ich bin ein Berliner."  --JFK

"Essen mein scheise gehen."- Random German dude to Cartman's mom in "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut".

"[Blackadder has just unwittingly slammed the door in the faces of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert]
Ebeneezer Blackadder: I am not at home to guests!
Prince Albert: I flatter myzelf ve are llather special guests, sir.
Ebeneezer Blackadder: Oh, of course, I must apologize! It isn't often that one receives a Christmas visit from two such distinguished guests.
Prince Albert: Ah, zo you llecognize us at last!
Ebeneezer Blackadder: Yes! Unless I'm very much mistaken, you're the winner of the 'Round Britain Shortest Fattest Dumpiest Woman Competition. And for her to be accompanied by the winner of this year's Stupidest Accent Award is really quite overwhelming.
Queen Victoria: [inaudible exclamation]
Ebenezer Blackadder: Cork it, fatso! Don't you realise that this is the Victorian Age, where apart from Queen Piglet-Features herself, women and children are to be seen and not heard!
Prince Albert: Queen Piglet-Features!
Ebenezer Blackadder: Yes! "Empress Oink," us lads call her. The only person in the kingdom who looks dafter than her is that stupid Frankfurter of a husband. "The Pig and the Prig," we call them. How they ever managed to produce their one hundred and twelve children is quite beyond me. The bed-chambers of Buckingham Palace must be copiously supplied with blindfolds!
Queen Victoria: Why, we've never been so insulted in our entire lives!
Ebenezer Blackadder: Well, all I can say is 'you've been damned lucky!'"

From The Blackadder Christmas Carol
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2009, 09:01:28 PM
[yt]MzVPMsF1XPs[/yt]

A sample:  "It then presents a biased view of creationism..."
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Post by: valvatica on December 24, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 24, 2009, 09:01:28 PM
"It then presents a biased view of creationism..."

I've brought up before that he refers to it as both "creationism" and "intelligent design" in the original Way of the Master video. So much for trying to defend the fact that they are "entirely different" things  ::)
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 25, 2009, 10:52:54 PM
All life carries the essence of stars - Rosalina

When you think about it, that's actually quite true.  Who'd have thought a character from a Mario game would get it right?
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2009, 12:07:14 AM
(By the way, all the pictures I had in this thread are back up and running (viewable) again. :) )

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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:47:57 PM
"ALL CREATIONISTS ARE LIARS." --Shane D. Killian, after correcting a Creationist/IDiot.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
"We haven't found a gene for race, ergo, race must be a choice."  ConfederalSocialist being satirical.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
"You can't have your cake, and eat it too." --Unknown
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
"On the other hand, there are five more fingers." --Steven Wright (Thanks Shane!)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:52:53 PM
"A bird in the hand is worth half in the stew."  --Me
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
"I'm very hard now." --Dr. Rabbit on a YouTube Poop
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
"There's nothing to fear, me and Ray Comfort are going to have gay 69 intercourse." --Kirk Cameron on that YouTube Poop I linked to.
"Kirt Camera is a pretty cool guy, eh has gay 69 sex and doesn't afraid of anything!" --Me in response to said YouTube Poop.
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f1/Trollface_HD.jpg)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
"The consumers suffer when the laws of the country prevent the most efficient entrepreneurs from expanding the sphere of their activities. What made some enterprises develop into big business was precisely their success in filling best the demand of the masses." --Ludwig von Mises, Planned Chaos, p. 22, AntiTrust Laws
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 03:59:56 PM
"Under capitalism, material success depends on the appreciation of a mans achievements on the part of the sovereign consumers. In this regard there is no difference between the services rendered by a manufacturer and those rendered by a producer, an actor or a playwright." --Ludwig von Mises, The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality,  p. 31 Arts
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 04:02:21 PM
"It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind." --Ludwig von Mises, Theory and History, pp. 191-92 America

"All rational action is in the first place individual action. Only the individual thinks. Only the individual reasons. Only the individual acts." --Ludwig von Mises, Socialism, p. 97 Action

"Ludwig von Mises is the shit." --Me
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 28, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
"On the other hand, there are five more fingers." --also unknown

Steven Wright.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 05:31:37 PM
Thanks, Shane. :)

"As the Government gets more and more oppressive, as taxes get higher and higher, more and more people are going to look to evade these taxes in order to simply survive." --Peter Schiff, Health Care, The "Patriot" Act & the U.S. Constitution (http://youtube.com/watch?v=E0KTFHNU7Ag)
Peter Schiff is win.
I suggest everyone here watch the entire video for full context. :)
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2009, 07:32:13 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 28, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
"You can't have your cake, and eat it too." --Unknown

But you can't eat it when you don't have it either.
...You're fucked any way...it's hopeless...it's...Oblivion! @_@

Sorry um... What were we talking about?
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2009, 07:36:58 PM
Also, there's no point in having a cake if you're not going to eat it.

I always thought that was a stupid expression.
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
The cake is a lie!
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 08:53:55 PM
@Shane/MrBogosity:  True, I thought the same thing when I heard it (aside from confusion).
I suppose it just means that there are going to be times when you have to choose.
For example, you can have freedom, or you can have a welfare/warfare state (to use examples from the Mises Institute and Ron Paul respectively); you can't have both.

@Gumba Masta:  And here I was wondering if anyone would try to make the link between those two sayings. :P



Some more good quotes:

"Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?" --Will Rogers

"Christmas is the time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell government what they want and their kids pay for it." --Richard Lamm

"[Keynesian] Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists." --John Kenneth Galbraith

"DO NOT WANT!!!" --An internet meme
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2009, 09:36:22 PM
"While it is true that Taxation is robbery, I find that, like other forms of theft, it exists in varying degrees of severity.  The least severe would be simple direct taxation, usually in the form of a sales tax.  Above that would be taxes that are less subtle for more specific things (e.g. Telephone tax).  When you tax something directly, it is like discrimination (sort of) among services and goods.  Beyond that would be taxation for things long since past that we didn't have any responsibility for, such as the Spanish War Tax.  Beyond that would be taxes on productive behavior (Income Tax, Corporate Tax, Capital Gains Tax, Death Tax, Taxes on Dividends, etc).  Not only do they make up among the biggest source of income for a State that cannot deserve the funds, they also mess with the market incentive structure, slowing growth and accumulation of capital.  This harms the people who the politicians would try to help most with their "income re-distribution schemes".   There are still worse.   In third place would be a direct inflation tax, when the Federal Reserve prints money, either to pay off debts, or to "stimulate the economy".  This causes a vast host of problems ranging from Inflation, the destruction/devaluation of capital, to the boom and bust cycles.  It is this high up because it just so goddamn deceitful.
However, there is a spin that can be made on this that can make it worse.  It ties for first place.
What are these two most evil forms of theft from the State?
They are:
a.  Borrowing money via deficit Spending which has all of the effects listed along with having to pay it back WITH INTEREST.  It is the worst of every world.
b.  State Regulations.  From what I understand, not only do they make us less safe (FDA and AMA) they also brutalize our economy.  Each job given to a regulator takes away 150 jobs from the private sector and vise versa, all under the pretext of making us safer when they don't.
Don't even get me started how they hurt our liberties..."
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 12:24:26 AM
"The State in the U.S. now extorts 75% of our wealth through both direct and indirect means.  Sometimes I just wish the State would just give everyone a flat tax of 75% and completely stayed out of everything, and did nothing else.  That would suck, but at least that would be HONEST." --Me
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 29, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
When I accused someone supporting a censorship law of being inconsistent, he responded by telling me it's better to judge things on an individual basis than worry about being consistent.

My response...

"You say it as though the two things were mutually exclusive.  Virtue requires consistency, otherwise at best, you're only doing the right thing some of the time."

It was never responded to.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 04:27:57 PM
>_>
<_<

"DEMOCRASHEY! FUCK YEAH! TWO WOLVES AND LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO EAT, YEAH!!!" --Morrakiu, making fun of democracy.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 06:08:53 PM
"Statism is a religion that I simply do not practice. I obey because I'm under threat of violence to accept the tenants of a religion, the beliefs of which I simply do not share. I have no faith in this man-made religion known as Statism." --Dale Everett, Rejecting the Religion of Statism (http://youtube.com/watch?v=C90gWl6cils)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 07:29:51 PM
"I would just like to take a moment to clarify something since there seem to be a lot of different interpretations of what I mean when I poke fun at "minarchists".

When I use the term "minarchism", I'm referring to an individual belief system, someone who believes a small government is necessary, and perhaps evil. A minarchist believes that government has a role in protecting life, liberty, and property. By itself, that wouldn't be worthy of ridicule, but where it falls apart is when they insist that it must be an authoritarian monopoly on violence, i.e. that it must exert a supreme authority over a certain geographic region and individuals cannot choose to act apart from it. By its very nature, such a thing will never protect life, liberty, and property. Such a thing is inherently contradictory to such values. If, on the other hand, you can let go of the idea of it being a monopoly, then it is subject to the controls of the free market and regains the accountability that's essential for it to ever do more good than harm.

Secondly, while I have no faith in politics to get us any degree of freedom in the big scheme of things, I have nothing against a gradual approach. Agorism takes a gradual approach and I believe in agorism. I'm all for taking little bites out of the elephant if it works. In fact, I am concerned that existing governments may rapidly collapse due to their own incompetence and some degree of chaos will inevitably ensue because most people remain in a child-like state of subservience and don't know how to live as adults. They have no idea how to function outside the rule of governments. However, I don't think it's something we should try to induce and I certainly don't believe in using violence to overthrow the government. I don't think it's either right or viable. I think we need to be building up voluntary versions of the services we currently ascribe to monopoly governments while at the same time acting as wrenches by refusing to comply with existing violent governments. Something along those lines is what I believe will make gradual progress toward more individual freedom.

Most importantly, both minarchism and anarchism are individual points of view, or philosophies about how to maintain civilized society. It's only when individuals evolve that society will make progress. When I hear someone talk about whether anarchy is possible, I cringe. This is where I differ with many anarchists. Society cannot exist in a state of anarchy because it's a fiercely individualist philosophy. It is possible for YOU to achieve it because it happens when YOU personally transcend the indoctrination that will allow YOU to stop being a cog in the machine of violent governments, and to at least begin to consider becoming a wrench. Once you understand that, then you realize how silly it is to think of minarchy as a step on the way to anarchy. Anarchy, as a philosophy, is the first and most crucial step that individuals must make in order for all of us to make progress toward a smaller and less intrusive government. As long as you see government as a necessary thing, as the protector of your liberties, you are seriously deceived and have little hope of making any progress toward even shrinking it.

But the good thing about minarchists is their hearts are in the right place. They are the hope of the future. Almost every anarchist was a minarchist somewhere along the way. So if you're a minarchist and you're offended, just realize I'm also kind of poking fun of myself. It wasn't that long ago that I was where you are."  --Dale Everett, The source (warning, will be offensive to Minarchists) (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/06/26/top-10-causes-of-minarchism-7/)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 07:47:12 PM
(For those wondering, yes, I'm in an Anarchist mood at the moment.  Don't worry, I have only three more from Dale to provide and (unless I find more neat stuff) I'll give it a rest.)

"In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a massive super computer is asked for a simple answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything. It spends 7 and a half million years to determine that the answer is 42. Of course, the realization is quickly made that a simple answer to an extremely complex question, or more accurately many difficult questions, is ridiculous on its face. The real answers to all the big problems are not easy, however badly we may desire them to be.

A lot of irrational beliefs have been fostered and perpetuated by barbaric civilizations in their desperate quest for answers. Virgins have been thrown into volcanoes to appease angry volcano gods. Rain dances have been performed to water dried up crops. People pray to various gods to heal a sick loved one. I happen to be an atheist. If I tell a person his prayers won't work because his god doesn't exist, it's not so I can give him a new god to pray to instead. The point is encouraging him to abandon the simplistic answer to a very difficult problem so he can face the cold hard reality. There are many realistic cures for cancer being pursued with varying degrees of success, but they can be painful, time-consuming, expensive, and don't always work. If he pursues these and his loved one gets better, his god will get the credit. If not, he will make excuses. Perhaps his faith wasn't strong enough! Through an atheist's eyes, his prayers had little to do with his loved one getting better except perhaps from a placebo effect.

We look to governments in much the same way we look to gods, to offer us easy answers. Similarly, when things work, we give governments credit. When they don't, we make excuses. We still have crime, war, car accidents, poverty, sickness, and death, despite the fix-all of authoritarian monopolistic governments, and sometimes because of. Instead, governments are forgiven for these massive failures and we continue to insist they have some crucial role to play.

I don't present anarchy as an alternative fix-all solution just as atheism is not a cure for cancer. If I tell you that your prayers are doing nothing to heal a sick loved one, that doesn't mean I have a cure for their cancer. It just means I'm encouraging you to seek any one of many possible treatments that have some basis in reality. Otherwise your efforts are futile at best, and possibly even harmful if they're delaying you from pursuing real solutions.

The answers to the difficult problems aren't simplistic. We can't simply pass the buck to gods and governments and expect them to get resolved. It's a hard pill that we each must swallow if we're to evolve our societies. Our irrational beliefs provide comforting delusions not easily given up. This is true of notions of gods, mysticism, and paternalistic governments.

When someone asks me something like how anarchy will prevent crime, the question sounds absurd. The question has it's origins in an incorrect presumption that our governments are preventing crime. Instead, police spend most of their time creating and enforcing false crimes like making plant possession illegal, and writing tickets to predominantly innocent people to pay their own salaries. Meanwhile, the false sense of security they provide to true believers prevents them from taking measures that would actually make them safer like fortifying their homes, getting sufficient insurance, and arming themselves for self protection. Anarchy won't prevent crime, but preventing the crimes perpetrated by governments would certainly be a good start in the right direction.

As an anarchist, I will confidently tell you that violent authoritarian models of government are not answers at all. They don't solve life's many complex problems. It doesn't mean I have a simple solution to offer in their place. The answer many will not want to hear is that there is no superior government to offer, just as there are no new gods with healing powers to replace those whose existence I have denied. The unpleasant but truthful response is to shatter the comforting delusions so we can start the hard but inevitable march toward finding real solutions to the problems life throws at us.

Just like religions, governments comfort us with fantasies. They claim we need them to protect us from crime, but they're the greatest perpetrators of crime. Governments take more money from us on a regular basis than thieves would ever manage to steal in their absence. Police are locking up innocent people for victimless crimes, sometimes killing them in the line of duty or torturing them with tasers while their government status protects them from the repercussions of their actions. The supposedly free country of the U.S. locks up a larger percentage of the population than any country in history. The exorbitantly expensive war in Iraq is killing our loved ones as well as countless Iraqis, all the while fueling anger that makes us more likely targets for terrorism. Right now the massive bailout is taking money from our economy and giving it to favored elite in the name of helping us. They're swiping more wealth from the poor and middle class in one fell swoop than all the welfare they've ever offered throughout history, and handing it over to their wealthy supporters. They'll amputate our legs and then offer us a free wheelchair to show how badly we need them. Authoritarian governments haven't reduced crime. They've simply claimed a monopoly on it.

Why doesn't the rain come when we do the dance? We all have a sense that governments are horribly off in some way or another but can't quite put our fingers on it so we keep doing all the same rituals to try and fix it. Democrat and Republican candidates get more alike each election, but voters keep thinking that if they just get their guys in there, the "good guys", and get the "bad guys" out, it will make things better. The truth is they're all bad guys and the inherently corrupt system makes them that way. The vote they recently had was a ritual designed to reinforce and validate an irrational belief that authoritarian monopolies can be in any way accountable to the people.

Governments continue to fail us because we've put our faith in something that makes no sense. We've consolidated power but we haven't consolidated morality. We handed our teeth and our testicles over to governments, attempting to delegate solving all the really difficult problems. People have faith that it will act on their behalf, but there's no logic backing that faith. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In our desperation for simple answers, we have perpetuated an irrational belief that the only way society can function peacefully is if one organization has all of the power. Many call it a monopoly on violence as if that's a good and necessary thing! They insist that governments be monopolistic over a region and that means they have to exercise violence or the threat thereof to maintain those monopolies, usually against innocent people. In essence, they claim government can only work if it's a criminal organization. The exact opposite is in fact the case. The checks and balances that the founding fathers tried to institute are nothing more than internal checks and balances of a criminal organization on itself. There is no way to watch the watchers. Effective checks and balances can exist only to the extent that we manage to distribute power back out to sovereign individuals.

To those with a continued religious faith in the state, I say the authoritarian but also benevolent government you want is a paradox. It does not exist and cannot be created no matter how badly you desire it. Just as atheism is only a solution to futile mysticism, anarchy is only a solution to one problem, but one which is quite pervasive– the irrational belief that an organization which is inherently criminal can also be benevolent. Anarchy is not an answer in itself. It's simply a rejection of the false answer.

There are many paths and many solutions to the difficult problems. There are many ways for us to work together without enslaving all of humanity under tyrannical mob bosses. There are many ways to fight crime without becoming criminals ourselves. There are many ways to help the poor without becoming thieves. In fact, there would be a lot less poor if governments stopped pillaging the economy. If someone doesn't amputate your legs, you won't need them to provide a wheelchair. Problems are solved by many people with expertise in different areas all focusing on what they're good at. The ultimate checks and balances are the result of a truly free market of individuals working together. I'm skilled in many areas, but there are far more areas where I lack expertise. I have no idea how to make shoes and yet I am wearing nice shoes which government didn't provide.

So anarchy isn't the answer. However, it is the beginning of finding real answers. Anarchy is merely a rejection of falsities. The anarchist has chosen to abandon childish fantasies and face reality, and in so doing is better equipped for pooling his skills in a mutually voluntary fashion with other awakened individuals toward finding real solutions. Realizing that the magic bullet solution we've been pursuing is irrational and hopeless is only the first step, but it's an absolutely crucial step if we're to make progress toward real freedom, peace, and prosperity." --Dale Everett, Anarchy Isn't The Answer (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/11/28/anarchy-isnt-the-answer/)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 07:51:17 PM
"I'm getting asked a certain question a lot lately. Why pick on minarchists? We're on the same side! Why aren't you picking on socialists more? I'm glad I was asked because it made me put some thought into best how to express this with words. What is it about the philosophy of minarchism that really gets up in my craw?

And then it occurred to me. Anarchists and minarchists in one key respect are polar opposites. I've said before that there is an ocean between an anarchist and a minarchist, but only a creek between a minarchist and a socialist and I can finally nail it down succinctly. An anarchist believes that a monopoly government is the source of our enslavement. A minarchist believes a monopoly government is crucial to protecting our liberties. Exact opposites! So why do people keep saying we're on the same side? Presumably it's because we have similar preferences. We both love liberty.

Now let's compare minarchists to socialists. A socialist will justify aggression on the basis of need. Food, shelter, and medical care are all essential needs and a socialist feels justified in using aggressive violence to satisfy those needs. On that same basis, a socialist will also absolve individuals of responsibility and pass that responsibility onto "society" which is a very abstract and subjective thing, a calamity of collectivism, which of course is why it's such a disaster in implementation. It's why individuals fail to develop a sense of their own responsibility and become incredibly dependent on their governments, remaining in a childlike state with governments assuming the role of their parents.

So now let's compare minarchists to socialists. A minarchist loves liberty a lot. A minarchist also believes aggressive violence against innocent people is justified due to a critical need, but only for that which suits their personal preference, i.e. providing for the protection of liberty. This is commonly defended in the same manner that socialists use for justifying aggressive violence, i.e. on the basis of need*. The minarchist claim is that we are responsible for providing for all of our own needs whether it be food, shelter, health care, or educating our children, but when it comes to the most crucial thing that's at the foundation of all the others, they absolve the individual of responsibility and pass that crucial task on to a murky subjective thing, that calamity of collectivism known as "society".

It's for this reason that I believe the minarchist approach to liberty is such an utter failure. I don't argue against minarchism to pick nits or because I'm a purist. I'm a long way from being a purist. If I were, I'd stop making calculated decisions regarding my activism. I'd drive without a license and I wouldn't pay a single penny in taxes no matter what, even if it meant pointlessly rotting in a jail cell or living as a hermit in a booger hut.

No, I argue against minarchism because I believe principles are pragmatic and that the promotion of minarchism is a big part of the problem. They're arguing against socialism out of one side of their mouths while proposing a slight variation on socialism out of the other side. It's an incredibly weak argument and makes an easy target for our opponents to poke holes in. I love them because we have a common interest, but I feel a need to exercise great care in how I team up with them because the act can make me an easy target right along with them. It can be quite a liability from a completely utilitarian and pragmatic point of view. The irony that they've often felt the same way about me has not escaped me.

In the process of defending minarchy, one is also inevitably defending socialism. It is for that reason that I am so skeptical of whether minarchy is even possible. Governments, like a cancer, don't stay small as long as they have legitimacy and they don't get smaller as long as they have near 100% compliance with their demands and massive moral support. Can we have much smaller government? I hope so and I'm an optimist. I think we can. I'm sure we can make governments smaller, which I would be thrilled to do, but it will require anarchism to get on the right track.

Minarchists, I love you like I love a pet that just won't potty-train. I know you're trying your darnedest, but it sure is frustrating. I'm going to keep making fun of you, but just remember that it's playful ribbing from a friend; an incredibly condescending and tactless friend, but a friend nonetheless.

* Here's a little thought game for objectivists. Grab a highlighting pen and go through some of your blog posts against anarchism. Now highlight everywhere you say the word 'need'. Can I get an "Oh, SNAP!" from some of my gay fans?" --Dale Everett, Anarchists & Minarchists & Socialists, oh, my! (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/06/30/anarchists-minarchists-socialists-oh-my/)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2009, 08:03:02 PM
"Here's your chance to sell me on the notion so make it good. Bare in mind, however, that I'm a critical thinker and I'm looking for logical arguments without the usual presumptions like "It's always been done this way." If we invented really efficient and clean-running hovercrafts, it would be silly to cling to the idea of wheels just because that's how it's been done for thousands of years. I'm also tired of arguments from need which are irrelevant. It doesn't matter how much we need unicorns if they don't exist or voodoo spells if they don't work. There's no point in having a discussion about the benefits of unicorns and their healing and purifying magical powers until someone convinces me they exist or they can create them.

And of course, there is the ever common presumption that minarchy "works", but that would be circular because that's the point of this post. I don't believe it can work and in fact I think it's counter-intuitive to think that it would. I see no historical evidence that societies are better off thanks to the existence of monopoly governments and I see no evidence that such things can stay small, and that's what I mean by "work". I think the record for a semi-smallish monopoly government is about 8 and a half minutes for the American version before the tyrannical power grab known as the Constitution, give or take a few years.

So please make an effort to abandon the common presumptions. Pretend I've not been to the government indoctrination centers known as public schools and that I haven't spent my developing years immersed in a society that takes it as a given that the way to less violence is through violence. I would also appreciate if you will have your discussion with me and not just continue some discussion you've had with other anarchists. I am not proposing an alternative to your minarchist system. I'm sure that may seem convenient, but it's the only way I can be intellectually honest. I suggest this post of mine for clarification, but I will put it another way. As a minarchist, you are the one suggesting one magic pill that cures all ills. I am not suggesting that such a thing exists or can be created. I am not aiming to replace your blanket system with some other. I do not have to know a cure for cancer to demand proof that voodoo spells are anything other than a complete waste of time and resources or that certain voodoo rituals may even be harmful to the intended recipient.

So to be clear on semantics, what I am referring to is an authoritarian style monopoly on violence being presented as a means to achieving a more civilized society than we could have if we withdrew our support from such things and began to individually but cooperatively oppose tyranny and mystical claims to authority in all its forms whenever it pops up its ugly head. Please attempt to disregard previous discussions with other anarchists and whatever straw-men arguments they have conveniently provided you to knock down. You are not arguing against something. You are arguing for something. There are many problems that societies face in their attempts to work out the differences among themselves and I posit that there are many solutions to those problems and I see every reason to allow people to try whatever they think might work as long as they aren't violating anyone's rights in the process, the one thing that minarchists insist must be done for their magic pill to work.

Here's a tip. When you inevitably ignore my request against arguments of need and argue that we need authority figures because humans are inherently incapable of civilized behavior without them, please explain where that authority will come from that will cause those particular flawed humans to be morally superior to the others. For instance, if it originates from some god who is presumably superior morally to us flawed humans, you're going to first have to take a few steps back and convince me of its existence. You will then need to convince me that this god has in fact granted its authority to some particular mortal agents causing them to overcome this otherwise tragic flaw in human nature. If you have a magic piece of paper, a magic badge, a magic title, or a magic black robe that corrects this inherent flaw of moral imperfection in human beings, you'll need to explain to me how the ritual works that creates these talismans. And I'm afraid "majority support" is epic fail as an answer so can we please keep the discussion moving forward? Majorities have been violently exploiting minorities for all of recorded history.

Are you beginning to get a sense of why I am skeptical of Utopian magic pill solutions? Humans are as varied in personalities and motivations as snowflakes which makes for some complicated problems when we try to get along in a civilized manner. It will likely take us a lot of trial and error in a free market to find good solutions for these many problems. Monopoly governments have been doing more harm than good for thousands of years. All I suggest is that we finally abandon our fantasies so we can begin to get to work on real solutions. But if you actually have the snake oil elixir that fixes everything and it really works, I will gleefully burn all my anarchist and voluntaryist t-shirts and stand in line to buy some from your booth at the next Porcfest! Until then, I hope you will understand why I find the notion thoroughly worthy of ridicule in comic strip form.

In closing, I have a crazy notion for you to consider. Let's change individuals. With each individual who learns what it really means to behave morally and to co-exist in a civilized manner with his or her neighbors, society gets a little bit better. That's one more person who will contribute his ingenuity and brotherly love to humanity's many problems. That's one more person who will appreciate the value of peace and tolerance for others and their differences and pass on that value to his children; teach that value to his neighbors. It's a realistic and gradualist approach. It's not an attempt to suddenly and violently overthrow governments. It's not Utopian. Blanket solutions for all of society are mystical. Individual changes are realistic and possible and those changes can ripple out to other individuals and have an exponential positive impact and make quantifiable steady progress toward peace and prosperity. Those of us who have chosen to be civilized will be better equipped than any slave for working together voluntary to protect our rights and provide for our mutual benefit. Anarchy is not a violent system that we attempt to impose on millions of people with or without their consent. Simply choose right now to consistently reject arbitrary and mystical claims to rulership of one man over another. Such designs are inherently exploitative and harmful. Anarchy is possible. Anarchy is in your head and in your heart the instant you are ready to embrace it." --Dale Everett, Is Minarchy Possible? (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/06/29/is-minarchy-possible/)
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Post by: Virgil0211 on December 30, 2009, 02:44:26 PM
"No, not worst. Typical." -My father in response to this video: [yt]qvPuNU_meEc[/yt]
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2009, 04:46:03 PM
"Rule 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less."   7 Habbits of highly successful pirates - Taken from Schlock Mercenary by Howard Taylor.
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Post by: MrBogosity on December 31, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
"Communicating badly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness." --XKCD #169
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Post by: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2009, 05:25:25 PM
"Comuniwire Cattaping"    The original Bionic Commando for the NES   
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Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 31, 2009, 05:04:06 PM"Communicating badly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness." --XKCD #169

"That just about sums up guys like Harry Felker on the Mises Institute forum." --Me in response to the above quote.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2010, 06:02:58 PM
"And THIS is the contradiction of the Statist. People are evil so they need to be ruled over by a Government.

But who’s going to make up that Government aside from those same evil people; who, of course, will likely end up being even more evil, because they will have control over a monopoly of the initiation of force?" --Me modifying something Shane once said.
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 02, 2010, 01:51:01 AM
"Beware those who have taken authority as the truth rather than the truth as authority"
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Post by: MrBogosity on January 02, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
"If something's of supreme importance, then it's all the more necessary to keep politicians away from it." --nonantianarchist on YouTube
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 02, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 02, 2010, 05:45:56 PM"If something's of supreme importance, then it's all the more necessary to keep politicians away from it." --nonantianarchist on YouTube
"That includes such extremely important things like the police, courts, defense, prisons and the law." --Me, in response to the above quote
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 02, 2010, 08:59:33 PM
"Snooping as usual, I see."  --Dr. Robotnik, in The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
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Post by: Gumba Masta on January 03, 2010, 03:57:21 AM
"Just because the World descends into madness you are not allowed to indulge in your personal delusions."
What do you think, does this belong here?
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Post by: valvatica on January 03, 2010, 04:16:37 AM
"Are you children here to act like the U.N. or to squabble and waste time?"
--Principal Skinner addressing the junior U.N. club, The Simpsons
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 03, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
The irony!
It burns! lol!

"Those who think that the destruction of war increases total 'demand' forget that demand and supply are merely two sides of the same coin.  They are the same thing looked at from different directions.  Supply creates demand because at bottom it is demand.  The supply of the thing they make is all that people have, in fact, to offer in exchange for the things they want.  In this sense the farmers’ supply of wheat constitutes their demand for automobiles and other goods.  All this is inherent in the modern division of labor and in an exchange economy." --Henry Hazlitt, Economics in One Lesson (http://jim.com/econ/chap03p1.html)
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Post by: Gumba Masta on January 03, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
What about undertakers, don't they profit?
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 03, 2010, 06:45:49 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on January 03, 2010, 06:43:16 PMWhat about undertakers, don't they profit?
Yes, but Hazlitt is talking about the economy when taken as a whole.

"This fundamental fact, it is true, is obscured for most people (including some reputedly brilliant economists) through such complications as wage payments and the indirect form in which virtually all modern exchanges are made through the medium of money. John Stuart Mill and other classical writers, though they sometimes failed to take sufficient account of the complex consequences resulting from the use of money, at least saw through 'the monetary veil' to the underlying realities. To that extent they were in advance of many of their present-day critics, who are befuddled by money rather than instructed by it. Mere inflation—that is, the mere issuance of more money, with the consequence of higher wages and prices may look like the creation of more demand. But in terms of the actual production and exchange of real things it is not." --Henry Hazlitt, Economics in One Lesson (http://jim.com/econ/chap03p1.html)
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Post by: Gumba Masta on January 03, 2010, 07:20:43 PM
Of course his arguments are only viable if you actually want to preserve a functioning human society.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 05, 2010, 11:00:12 PM
"Emergence is science-y speak for awesomeness!" --Me
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2010, 04:13:40 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "What makes natural science possible is the power to experiment; what makes social science possible is the power to grasp or to comprehend the meaning of human action." - Money, Method, and the Market Process
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2010, 06:13:32 PM
"And of course,  if you're one of those woos who's just going to flame on without even attempting understanding what's going to be said, all I have to say is 'may your chains rest lightly upon you.'" --Shane Killian, Economic Basics Part 5: Unemployment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBm3_1SXAw8)
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Post by: MrBogosity on January 07, 2010, 09:44:13 AM
"Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'." --XKCD #552 (mouseover text)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
ROFL!!!

"ANYONE who says that we've got a free market in the United States of America deserves to be laughed at for his stupidity and ignorance." --Me (possibly paraphrased from Shane)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 08, 2010, 06:10:40 PM
"To retain respect for sausages and laws, one must not watch them in the making." --unnamed member of the Illinois state legislature (often attributed to Otto von Bismarck)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2010, 03:07:01 AM
"The definition of freedom is not complicated.  Freedom means that which the government does not control.  You are free when the government cannot steal your income, when it cannot tell you what to say or with whom you may or may not associate.  You are free when the government cannot take your kids and send them to far-flung wars to kill and be killed.  You are free when you control your life, your property, your church, your business, and your future.  You are free when the government cannot inflate away your savings, tax away your profits, lay waste to your dividends by regimenting corporate life, or controlling how much of what you buy and sell and from where." - Lew Rockwell
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2010, 03:13:30 PM
"I always thought it was hypocritical of leftists to complain about the right enforcing morality in the bedroom when they themselves are trying to enforce morality in the wallet." –Shane Killian
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/comics/2009-09-26-cop_pr_issues.png)

"I didn't hear the conversations myself, but my understanding is some police were complaining about the lack of respect they were receiving at a recent protest regarding cannabis in Keene Central Square. I have some thoughts for cops who don't understand why you are becoming so universally despised.

It used to be somewhat safe to target young people. There were plenty of folks from an older generation when police were primarily peace officers, before you transitioned more and more into "law enforcement" officers and started viewing everyone, especially younger people, as potential law breakers instead of as the people you were trying to protect from a small number of truly dangerous criminals in the population. You had easy brownie points with that older generation. Many of them didn't fit the profile for your law enforcement and when they hear about police abuse, they tend to assume it's an isolated case. When mostly younger people are targeted for victimless crimes, they assume they deserved it.

Times have changed and they will continue to change. Those older generations who remember the good ole days are passing away. They've been replaced by people who have been targeted for petty harassment over victimless crimes many times or at least know people who have. They see you as predators rather than protectors, and rightly so. They are merely following a healthy instinct for self-preservation when they fear you, and when they fear you, they naturally hate you. I try not to hate you myself, but I admit it takes effort.

I would like for a dialogue to remain open between police and the growing numbers in the population who disapprove of what you have become. I know it sounds insincere considering I make fun of people in my comics, but I generally stick to representative fictional characters unless a particular individual has earned special recognition. Generally, while I stand up for my rights, I try to show respect in hopes that the same respect will one day be returned." --Dale Everett
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
"'Accept as your savior our Lord Jesus Christ or your soul will burn in Hell for all eternity!'

'Acknowledge the authority of an aggressive state or all of society will descend into violence and chaos!'" --Dale Everett, making fun of the appeal to fear often used in place of reasoned logic, and noting the parallel between religion and state dogma.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 10, 2010, 09:37:39 PM
"Think about it." --cdk007
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 11, 2010, 09:14:57 PM
This was a good one when I said that communism is a top down system.

QuoteI would dispute this. The examples of China and of other single party governments we have at the moment are one of several different variants thereof, and do fit your description. Communism as it's core theory is definitely not top down....

To which I responded that communism needs a central authority or it isn't worth the paper it's printed on.


"Hey you making the pies. You have to share them out with the rest of the people in town to be fair."

"Oh? Do you have any authority to make me?"

"No"

"Well fuck off then!"
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2010, 05:56:31 AM
"@AkiRa22084: There are scientific achievements all over the world. Anyone can learn about any scientific achievement by going on the Internet. Yet not all societies are prosperous. Hence science is not sufficient. Only saving and investment can bring disembodied science to life, and it is the free market that makes these things possible." --DRNevans on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LJ3wZjD4I

I wasn't sure whether or not to put this in here or the fail quotes.

What do you guys think and why?
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Post by: MrBogosity on January 12, 2010, 06:30:10 AM
Well, not everyone has internet access. But he has a point: it can be as expensive to read, understand, and learn to use a scientific advance as it was to make the advance to begin with. You need economic wealth to make this happen.

The concept of individual liberty led both to the free market and wealthy economies, and to scientific advancement. That's not a coincidence.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2010, 06:39:59 AM
Agreed.
Then it's settled:  the quote is a fav, not a fail.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 12, 2010, 06:30:10 AMThe concept of individual liberty led both to the free market and wealthy economies, and to scientific advancement. That's not a coincidence.
Try telling that to thunderf00t, or the members of the LeagueofReason forums.
:P
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Post by: MrBogosity on January 12, 2010, 06:45:41 AM
I tried. :(
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2010, 06:52:45 AM
I know.
I was just teasing.  Sorry if I hit a nerve. ^^;

"I was once a man.  Just kidding; I've always been a snake."  --a snake on a cartoon which aired on Adult Swim that I can't remember the name of
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2010, 05:55:23 PM
"Don't tread on me."  --Gadsden Flag
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Post by: MrBogosity on January 12, 2010, 05:56:33 PM
Gadsden Flag is the name of it.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2010, 05:59:05 PM
Thanks. :)

"If people are good, you consider having a state.  If people are evil,  you don't dare have a state." --Someone on the Mises Institute forum.
"If people are good, you don't need a state. If people are evil, you don't dare have one." --Shane Killian's rewording of the above quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2010, 02:18:57 AM
I'll do you all one better for the next Fav quote:

(http://mises.org/Community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/27/8780.07_2D00_1076428675.jpg)

This one is straight out of TheAmazingAtheist's demotivational picture collection.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2010, 02:22:40 AM
"Hey douchebag why dont you take your creationist propaganda and shove it!" --dooivid, whose comment on Shane's video ("Watch Expelled with subtitles correcting the lies!") was marked as spam for some reason
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 14, 2010, 06:32:39 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 12, 2010, 05:59:05 PM
Thanks. :)

"If people are good, you consider having a state.  If people are evil,  you don't dare have a state." --Someone on the Mises Institute forum.

I would have stated it as, "If people are good, you don't need a state. If people are evil, you don't dare have one."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2010, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 14, 2010, 06:32:39 AM
I would have stated it as, "If people are good, you don't need a state. If people are evil, you don't dare have one."
...Blah.  Good idea.  I'll reword it as that.
Fixed.
Thanks again, Shane. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 16, 2010, 10:31:11 AM
"It's time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybody's role is spelled out in advance and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. It's no surprise that our school system doesn't improve: it more resembles the communist economy than our own market economy." --Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 16, 2010, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 16, 2010, 10:31:11 AM
"It's time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybody's role is spelled out in advance and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. It's no surprise that our school system doesn't improve: it more resembles the communist economy than our own market economy." --Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers
You just earned a -1 on your bogometer with that one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 16, 2010, 11:26:14 PM
"At the risk of breaking Godwin's Law, the people commenting against me, Shane and the other free marketeers remind me of White supremacists. 
Only instead of the Jews, it's the rich that are evil.
Instead of the Aryans, it's the poor who are being destroyed.
Wow." --Me noting a rather interesting parallel between the Nazis and the Socialist folk.
(BTW:  If this comment violates the forum rules, just tell me and I'll remove it by replacing it with something else.  I have tons of good quotes. :) )
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 17, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
"Creationism is bullshit." --Anybody educated on the subject
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 18, 2010, 10:56:31 PM
http://marukasurelius.deviantart.com/art/31231232-145885072

Now that's a keeper!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 18, 2010, 11:12:48 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 18, 2010, 10:56:31 PMhttp://marukasurelius.deviantart.com/art/31231232-145885072

Now that's a keeper!
I could have shown you that. :P
I found that same picture in TheAmazingAtheist's demotivational pictures.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 18, 2010, 11:47:22 PM
Where can I find them?

I don't look at TAA much, he's very...not funny.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 18, 2010, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 18, 2010, 11:47:22 PM
Where can I find them?

I don't look at TAA much, he's very...not funny.
I'll dig up the URL for you.
Just to warn you though.
A huge number of the pictures involve jailbait (underage, overdeveloped girls), and jokes about it, e.g.  "If no one wanted to fuck it, there wouldn't be a law against it".
Just to give you that warning.
You sure you want to see it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 19, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
tsk, I'm a skeptical libertarian atheist, I am VERY difficult to offend.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 19, 2010, 01:25:24 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 19, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
tsk, I'm a skeptical libertarian atheist, I am VERY difficult to offend.
Heh. :P
OK.

Here you go:  http://demotivateyou.com/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 20, 2010, 08:45:43 PM
"By sending me stupid comments/hate mail, you acknowledge that I own all rights to the entire contents of your message, any images sent with the message, your email address, your house, your car, your first born and your soul. Furthermore, you agree to make your email address publicly available on this or any other web site, and you accept my views and opinions as being right regardless of anything. Furthermore, you agree that it is okay for me or anyone else to slander and/or libel you on this or any other web site, in public, at your place of employment, or anywhere else in this or any other universe and/or dimension. Know that leaving me a stupid comment is a request for character defamation, endless belittling and excessive mockery. You may not sue me for any reason, ever, and this disclaimer is subject to change without notice, and you are still subject to the rules regardless of any changes made. If you do not agree with these rules, then don't send me comments when you feel the sudden urge to talk out of your ass. Sending me stupid comments will lead me to believe that you are infact stupid. This may result in a block. There are enough stupid people on YouTube and they need no help from you. As a matter of fact, just play it safe and don't talk to me at all. Don't forget to subscribe, stupid." --Sarahon06's profile page (http://www.youtube.com/Sarahon06)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on January 22, 2010, 02:40:18 AM
I found this one by LadyAttis hilarious (I know some of you have already seen it  :)):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2010, 03:00:52 AM
Quote from: valvatica on January 22, 2010, 02:40:18 AM
I found this one by LadyAttis hilarious (I know some of you have already seen it  :)):

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Oh, that was fuckwin. X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2010, 03:19:29 AM
"Everybody should be free to believe what they want, and we should be free to call it stupid" --Russell Glasser

Source:  [yt]KqSxc1t-29Q[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2010, 02:14:19 PM
"Free people & free markets go hand-in-hand. Ya can't have 1 without the other." --Tutilost on YouTube
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2010, 10:01:34 PM
"Capitalism:  An economic system based on private ownership of capital" --Princeton's online dictionary.

Also the way every single textbook in social studies I've had defines it.
That definition in mind, here's what I don't get.  Why is it that Agorists (which I don't consider myself one for various reasons..) consider what we have to be a "capitalist" economy?
If "capital" (say, capital goods or money) are owned privately, that implies title, control, liability, use and disposal.
Since the big corporations in our system are shielded from liability,
most normal people don't have control, title, or use via state restrictions all over the economy in countless ways,
how they what we have in ANY way be considered a "Capitalist" economy?
They argue, "well, this is what capitalism is; how it exists."
OK, except then that means that it DOESN'T exist, at least not in great enough proportion to be considered the primary part of the system.
What we have is the result of the State (what many call government), not of capitalism being tried and then leading to it (as Shane worded differently than me in his Question & Answer videos).

As Shane said, "We're NOT a primarily capitalist economy.  We're a primarily corporatist economy and have been for full on a century now."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 24, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
"Whatever the issue, let freedom offer us a hundred choices, instead of having government force one answer on everyone." —Harry Browne

I want to put the quote where he compared Republicans to Libertarians here from his book.
Would that violate copyright law?
It's a big quote, but still so awesome...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 25, 2010, 06:32:50 AM
Quote's don't violate copyright; they're fair use.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 25, 2010, 11:12:15 AM
Awesome!  ;D

"--Harry Browne, Why Government Doesn't Work, pages 211 & 212


This is the quote I was thinking of.
I like this one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 25, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
The truth is unattainable.  It will always be shrouded in fog.  Though you reach through the murk and the gloom to grasp something, you have no means to know it is the truth.  In which case, why?  What sense is there in yearning for truth?  Close your eyes, lie to yourself, live in blissful ignorance.  It is a much smarter way to exist.
Obtaining the truth is simple, all you have to do is believe it is the truth.  Very well, then I will grant you one truth...you will all die here! - Shadow Teddie, Persona 4

I love this game so much.  "Truth vs. deception" is one of it's big themes as you can no doubt tell.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 28, 2010, 09:17:41 PM
"Liberty is not an inter-subjective consensus." --FlowCell
"...it is true because words mean things. If we can make words mean what ever we want, then language is meaningless." --FlowCell

Both from his latest video:  [yt]ftd-AiOz_KI[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 28, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
Phil Helenes' version of Genesis.  I loved it dearly.  ^^

In the beginning, there was light, light so hot that nothing else could exist, but the void grew faster than the light and that was good. And out of the light came the tiny heralds of what was to come, as small to an apple as an apple is to your spherical world. For I tell you light can become solid and solid can become light. Take heed for I tell you what no man yet knows. And the heralds waited in the light for their time and 400 millenia later, when it could be so, so it was. And these things I will call atoms fell together. And I tell you children of the light, in the void, great clouds of atoms fell together, called by mutual attraction, forced to become one, growing in size, gaining mass until at the center of the great clouds there came a new light. As atoms of the first and simplest kind were forced together to become atoms of the second kind. And behold! The first star was born!

Soon there were many stars, swirling by the hundreds of thousands of millions, floating in islands like discs, each island separate, racing apart. And the islands themselves shall be numbered in the hundreds of thousands of millions. And some of the stars were small and burned slow and dim and long. And some were giant and burned bright blue and fast, making atoms of the second, third and forth up to the twenty sixth kind until they could burn no more. And then they die a powerful death buildling up atoms of the ninety second kind and beyond which they spread along with abundant blinding light like seeds back into the void, disturbing the stillness of the surrounding atomic clouds, giving birth to countless stars in their wake. But these new stars drew around them disc shaped cloaks of the ninety two types of atoms, the ashes and the seeds of the first giant stars. And the heavier elements fell towards the new stars and over millions of years there formed worlds of rock and metal to encircle the sun. And away from the star, worlds of vapour and ice were formed, circling more slowly in accordance with their greater distance from the sun. And nine thousand million years later after the beginning of one star, one rocky, metalic world, ninety two types of atoms danced to the tune of the light and the lightning while mountains fell from the sky. This place would be called Earth.

And for half a billion years, the dance went on, atoms joining in ways forbidden in the heat inside the stars from where they were made but inevitable where the magnet is mightier than the fire. And by the law of the magnet and the lodestone, one chain of many atoms begat chains of identical form and the chains spread through the waters, filling them, growing in size and complexity, taking unto them the poisonous clouds and vapours that hung over the world and giving back the air. And the sky of the earth, now clear of the falling mountains, turned blue. And four thousand million years later still, you stand here, yearning to know how you came to be.

But if you have the mind to ask the question, you have the mind to find the answer. Look to the light of the world, see how they dance. From this and only from this will you find the answers that will lead you to the knowing. And one day you will make better eyes from the sand and look out into the night and you will see wonders, things hidden unto them. But keep looking and thinking with better eyes and clearer thoughts and knowledge will come to you. You will see the island discs of countless millions of suns stretching back into infinite. But be not afraid, see my creation, the jewels of millions of suns, stars of blinding light, holes of darkness that hold back the light, the clouds of atoms from which you came. And it is all yours if you can work as one. I can give you no more than all that is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
If I have put this here before, say so, and I'll remove it.  I can't stand double posts.
A thought provoking essay:

Anarchists & Minarchists & Socialists, oh, my!
June 30th, 2009
by Dale Everett
"I'm getting asked a certain question a lot lately. Why pick on minarchists? We're on the same side! Why aren't you picking on socialists more? I'm glad I was asked because it made me put some thought into best how to express this with words. What is it about the philosophy of minarchism that really gets up in my craw?

And then it occurred to me. Anarchists and minarchists in one key respect are polar opposites. I've said before that there is an ocean between an anarchist and a minarchist, but only a creek between a minarchist and a socialist and I can finally nail it down succinctly. An anarchist believes that a monopoly government is the source of our enslavement. A minarchist believes a monopoly government is crucial to protecting our liberties. Exact opposites! So why do people keep saying we're on the same side? Presumably it's because we have similar preferences. We both love liberty.

Now let's compare minarchists to socialists. A socialist will justify aggression on the basis of need. Food, shelter, and medical care are all essential needs and a socialist feels justified in using aggressive violence to satisfy those needs. On that same basis, a socialist will also absolve individuals of responsibility and pass that responsibility onto 'society' which is a very abstract and subjective thing, a calamity of collectivism, which of course is why it's such a disaster in implementation. It's why individuals fail to develop a sense of their own responsibility and become incredibly dependent on their governments, remaining in a childlike state with governments assuming the role of their parents.

So now let's compare minarchists to socialists. A minarchist loves liberty a lot. A minarchist also believes aggressive violence against innocent people is justified due to a critical need, but only for that which suits their personal preference, i.e. providing for the protection of liberty. This is commonly defended in the same manner that socialists use for justifying aggressive violence, i.e. on the basis of need*. The minarchist claim is that we are responsible for providing for all of our own needs whether it be food, shelter, health care, or educating our children, but when it comes to the most crucial thing that's at the foundation of all the others, they absolve the individual of responsibility and pass that crucial task on to a murky subjective thing, that calamity of collectivism known as 'society'.

It's for this reason that I believe the minarchist approach to liberty is such an utter failure. I don't argue against minarchism to pick nits or because I'm a purist. I'm a long way from being a purist. If I were, I'd stop making calculated decisions regarding my activism. I'd drive without a license and I wouldn't pay a single penny in taxes no matter what, even if it meant pointlessly rotting in a jail cell or living as a hermit in a booger hut.

No, I argue against minarchism because I believe principles are pragmatic and that the promotion of minarchism is a big part of the problem. They're arguing against socialism out of one side of their mouths while proposing a slight variation on socialism out of the other side. It's an incredibly weak argument and makes an easy target for our opponents to poke holes in. I love them because we have a common interest, but I feel a need to exercise great care in how I team up with them because the act can make me an easy target right along with them. It can be quite a liability from a completely utilitarian and pragmatic point of view. The irony that they've often felt the same way about me has not escaped me.

In the process of defending minarchy, one is also inevitably defending socialism. It is for that reason that I am so skeptical of whether minarchy is even possible. Governments, like a cancer, don't stay small as long as they have legitimacy and they don't get smaller as long as they have near 100% compliance with their demands and massive moral support. Can we have much smaller government? I hope so and I'm an optimist. I think we can. I'm sure we can make governments smaller, which I would be thrilled to do, but it will require anarchism to get on the right track.

Minarchists, I love you like I love a pet that just won't potty-train. I know you're trying your darnedest, but it sure is frustrating. I'm going to keep making fun of you, but just remember that it's playful ribbing from a friend; an incredibly condescending and tactless friend, but a friend nonetheless.

* Here's a little thought game for objectivists. Grab a highlighting pen and go through some of your blog posts against anarchism. Now highlight everywhere you say the word 'need'. Can I get an 'Oh, SNAP!' from some of my gay fans?" --Dale Everett, source (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/06/30/anarchists-minarchists-socialists-oh-my/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
"The Twilight series sucks." --Any reasonable person
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on January 31, 2010, 12:22:34 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 30, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
"The Twilight series sucks." --Any reasonable person

"A-Fucking-Men to that!" My girlfriend and I in response to the above quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2010, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on January 31, 2010, 12:22:34 AM
"A-Fucking-Men to that!" My girlfriend and I in response to the above quote.
"I knew you would like that.
I was thinking of you when I posted that."  --Me in response to that quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2010, 12:01:59 AM
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" --Barry Goldwater
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2010, 01:06:33 PM
"The essential psychological requirement of a free society is the willingness on the part of the individual to accept responsibility for his life."
--Edith Packer, clinical psychologist

"War and poverty are caused, not by 'selfish others,' but by our own reactions to them. If we wish to change the world, we must first change ourselves." --Dr. Mary J. Ruwart


Both quotes are from the free online version of Healing Our World.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 01, 2010, 02:04:40 PM
The state that does not recognize the value and dignity of human life is obsolete - The Twilight Zone, "The Obsolete Man" episode.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 02, 2010, 03:30:20 PM
From "So Long and Thanks for All the Fish" by Douglas Adams

[An enormous spaceship has just landed on Earth, causing incredible destruction in the process. A giant robot then steps out.]

"I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 02, 2010, 03:59:26 PM
@Shane's quote: lol

"The ideas of economists and political philosophers both when they are right and when they are wrong are more powerful than is commonly understood.  Indeed, the world is ruled by little else.  Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." --John Maynard Keynes, The General Theory

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." --F.A. Hayek, The Fatal Conceit

Both quotes and their sources are from that video of Keynes and F.A. Hayek rapping.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God." --Epicurus
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2010, 09:47:24 PM
"@dizzle42008 Economics has tremendous scientific merit, but psychology is dead. It's all about cognitive neuroscience now."  --TheAmazingAtheist
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
"First, the private sector is superior to government as a problem-solver because private transactions require the consent of all parties to them. When government interacts with people, there is always at least one party that is forced to participate and that is, therefore, abused and exploited.

Second, private decisions are made by individuals and firms that know more about their particular circumstances than anyone else could possibly know. In contrast, governments cannot know as much about the persons and institutions they deal with and thus are forced to make and enforce arbitrary general rules that apply the same to different people and different circumstances, regardless of the absurd or unjust consequences.

Third, because, in the words of Frederic Bastiat, people are not clay, they always react and respond to the state's use of power against them in ways that result in unintended and negative consequences from the state's point of view, now fashionably called 'blowback.'

Fourth, the widespread use of state power erodes private morality, as people learn from the state's actions and rationalizations that it is acceptable to use force against others to achieve your goals. Unfortunately, the state and its politicians—corrupt, mendacious, rapacious, lascivious, and ruthless—have become the great moral teachers of our time." --James Ostrowski, A $21 Trillion Tax Cut (http://mises.org/story/633)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2010, 11:01:04 PM
"Nobody can be at the same time a correct bureaucrat and an innovator." --Ludwig von Mises, Bureaucracy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2010, 02:26:23 AM
"Should not reason alone be the judge?" --Hypatia
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2010, 03:08:15 AM
"The luxury of today is the necessity of tomorrow. Every advance first comes into being as the luxury of a few rich people, only to become, after a time, an indispensable necessity taken for granted by everyone. Luxury consumption provides industry with the stimulus to discover and introduce new, things. It is one of the dynamic factors in our economy. To it we owe the progressive innovations by which the standard of living of all strata of the population has been gradually raised." --Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 06, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A  This interview is loaded with good ones.  I like this guy!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 08, 2010, 10:03:11 PM
"One of the things that always shocks me is how people whom I would trust, maybe not with my wife, but certainly with my pocketbook, in their private capacity, whom I would never question the integrity of, will in their public capacity, because they believe that it's in the best interests of other people, lie to the American people." --Milton Friedman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 09, 2010, 02:02:51 PM
"I have come to the conclusion that the more someone boasts about being for free speech, the more likely he is to engage in censorship." --Me, right now
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 11, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
"I concluded that [the Federal Reserve Board] was indeed a weak reed for a nation to lean on in time of trouble." --Herbert Hoover, in his memoirs
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 11, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 09, 2010, 02:02:51 PM
"I have come to the conclusion that the more someone boasts about being for free speech, the more likely he is to engage in censorship." --Me, right now

Well, not always.  Look at Pat Condell.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 11, 2010, 08:11:54 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 11, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
Well, not always.  Look at Pat Condell.

True, but Pat Condell does it to defend free speech. I'm talking about people who pay lip service to free speech while defending their pet political agenda.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 11, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 11, 2010, 06:33:41 PMWell, not always.  Look at Pat Condell.

Funny you should mention him:

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The only two videos of his I have EVER rated one star.
Ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on February 11, 2010, 09:26:22 PM
Speaking of being able to walk around naked, what is the anarchist/anarcho-capitalist/anti-statist/libertarian take on it? It doesn't interfere with anyone else's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, right? So is it permissible?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 11, 2010, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: valvatica on February 11, 2010, 09:26:22 PM
Speaking of being able to walk around naked, what is the anarchist/anarcho-capitalist/anti-statist/libertarian take on it? It doesn't interfere with anyone else's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, right? So is it permissible?

The problem usually isn't walking around naked on your own property. For one thing, most people wouldn't walk around naked in full view, and neighborhood boards/landlords/etc would probably establish their own rules against such behavior while still exercising their own property rights. At least, that's how I understand that part. As far as someone running around nude on someone else's property, well, that's just the property owner asserting his right to eject anyone from his land if he so wishes.

The public nudity laws and such are excessive and unnecessary. The only time they would actually come into effect would be on so-called 'public land' or state-owned property. Considering the fact that the state should 'own' as little property as possible, this problem solves itself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 12, 2010, 12:17:44 AM
QuoteThe only two videos of his I have EVER rated one star.
Ever.

I hardly see why.  He said it best when he said "If the world were as honest as it ought to be, it would be a non issue as the burka would already have been ridiculed out of existence."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2010, 01:11:48 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 12, 2010, 12:17:44 AM
I hardly see why.  He said it best when he said "If the world were as honest as it ought to be, it would be a non issue as the burka would already have been ridiculed out of existence."
Because he's advocating an outright ban in the videos...
That's the part I take issue with.
The use of state force for illegitimate reasons.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 12, 2010, 05:33:38 AM
Quote from: valvatica on February 11, 2010, 09:26:22 PM
Speaking of being able to walk around naked, what is the anarchist/anarcho-capitalist/anti-statist/libertarian take on it? It doesn't interfere with anyone else's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, right? So is it permissible?

Fine by me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2010, 08:29:16 PM
"The statist can pursue the matter further: 'If you grant that it is legitimate for people to band together and allow the State to coerce individuals to pay taxes for a certain service — "defense" — why is it not equally moral and legitimate for people to join in a similar way and allow the State the right to provide other services — such as post offices, "welfare," steel, power, etc.? If a State supported by a majority can morally do one, why not morally do the others?'
I confess that I see no answer to this question. If it is proper and legitimate to coerce an unwilling Henry Thoreau into paying taxes for his own 'protection' to a coercive state monopoly, I see no reason why it should not be equally proper to force him to pay the State for any other services, whether they be groceries, charity, newspapers, or steel." --Murray N. Rothbard, Are Libertarians "Anarchists"? (http://mises.org/story/2801)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 12, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
It's very simple: government is force. Therefore, government is legitimate only where the use of force is legitimate, and in no other way. Since the initiation of force is illegitimate, the government can't do it. Defense isn't an initiation of force; welfare is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2010, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 12, 2010, 09:00:48 PMIt's very simple: government is force. Therefore, government is legitimate only where the use of force is legitimate, and in no other way. Since the initiation of force is illegitimate, the government can't do it. Defense isn't an initiation of force; welfare is.
"welfare is."
Well, when done by the state by theft (taxes).
Remember, though, Rothbard is talking about a coercive monopoly, initiating force (taxes taken at gun point) to provide a service, defense.
He's not talking about whether or not the service should exist or not.

Here are two videos talking about this, or at least act as food for thought:

[yt]ZO9HvIzgGfU[/yt]

[yt]K6D7z30Zqck[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 01:55:56 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 12, 2010, 01:11:48 AM
Because he's advocating an outright ban in the videos...
That's the part I take issue with.
The use of state force for illegitimate reasons.

Here's the difficult thing.  We all know the burka is backed by cohesion.  Even if the women say they're cool with it, the cohesion is still there because we all know what happens to a muslim woman who refuses to wear it.

It's the same problem as "When is it okay to intervene on an abusive spouse when the abused person won't press charges?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 13, 2010, 02:12:32 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 01:55:56 AMHere's the difficult thing.  We all know the burka is backed by cohesion.  Even if the women say they're cool with it, the cohesion is still there because we all know what happens to a muslim woman who refuses to wear it.

It's the same problem as "When is it okay to intervene on an abusive spouse when the abused person won't press charges?"
In other words, by duress.
OK, I think I see your point.
But I still don't see how that begets the state to use preemptive aggression on their behalf.
The Muslim women, like anyone else, are responsible for themselves and for their own defense.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 02:27:15 AM
Yes, banning the burka is really missing the target but what should be done instead?  A message does need to be sent that "You're free to live here but you don't get to treat women or anyone for that matter like possessions.  That's not acceptable here."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 13, 2010, 02:47:26 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 02:27:15 AM
Yes, banning the burka is really missing the target but what should be done instead?  A message does need to be sent that "You're free to live here but you don't get to treat women or anyone for that matter like possessions.  That's not acceptable here."

Well, at least in Texas, the prosecutor is able to bring charges against the abusive spouse if he/she believes there is enough evidence to convict (or, as they phrase it, enough evidence to reasonably conclude that the husband committed the crime and a conviction can reasonably be obtained).

The best method would probably be private/charitable attempts at education, providing safe havens, etc. Maybe make it easier for women to obtain restraining orders against their husbands? Just throwing out ideas here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 13, 2010, 07:41:04 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 01:55:56 AM
Here's the difficult thing.  We all know the burka is backed by cohesion.  Even if the women say they're cool with it, the cohesion is still there because we all know what happens to a muslim woman who refuses to wear it.

It's the same problem as "When is it okay to intervene on an abusive spouse when the abused person won't press charges?"

But if you ban burkas, then aren't you fighting a symptom and not the cause?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 13, 2010, 09:55:35 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 13, 2010, 07:41:04 AM
But if you ban burkas, then aren't you fighting a symptom and not the cause?

Yes, that's why I said in the next post that banning the burka is missing the real target.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 13, 2010, 10:03:44 AM
"Why do we even have newspapers?" --My daughter
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Post by: IceSage on February 13, 2010, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 13, 2010, 10:03:44 AM
"Why do we even have newspapers?" --My daughter

So domesticated pets who can't go outside yet have something to potty train with so the carpet doesn't get messy, duh!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 14, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again and I will keep saying until people get it into their heads. Anyone who speaks of profit like it's a dirty word is a hypocrite. Every single one of us who have any contact with society whatsoever makes profit off the needs of another. This is a GOOD thing! It's what binds us together.
Anyone who tells you it's a bad thing is doing so for his benefit, not yours. - Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 14, 2010, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 14, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again and I will keep saying until people get it into their heads. Anyone who speaks of profit like it's a dirty word is a hypocrite. Every single one of us who have any contact with society whatsoever makes profit off the needs of another. This is a GOOD thing! It's what binds us together.
Anyone who tells you it's a bad thing is doing so for his benefit, not yours. - Me

I love it! One of my faves now, too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2010, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 14, 2010, 09:59:19 AMI've said it before and I'll say it again and I will keep saying until people get it into their heads. Anyone who speaks of profit like it's a dirty word is a hypocrite. Every single one of us who have any contact with society whatsoever makes profit off the needs of another. This is a GOOD thing! It's what binds us together.
Anyone who tells you it's a bad thing is doing so for his benefit, not yours. - Me
Outstanding quote, dude. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 17, 2010, 12:56:44 AM
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value -- zero." --Voltaire - 1729
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Post by: The Late Andrew Ryan on February 18, 2010, 11:42:57 AM
"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat

"I believe in no God, no invisible man in the sky. But there is something more powerful in each of us, a combination of our efforts, a great chain of industry that unites us. But it is only when we struggle in our own interests that the chain pulls society in the right direction. The chain is too powerful and too mysterious for any government to guide. Any man who tells you differently either has his hand in your pocket or a pistol to your neck."
-Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

"A man who chooses between drinking a glass of milk and a glass of a solution of potassium cyanide does not choose between two beverages; he chooses between life and death. A society that chooses between capitalism and socialism does not choose between two social systems; it chooses between social cooperation and the disintegration of society. Socialism is not an alternative to capitalism; it is an alternative to any system under which men can live as human beings."
-Ludwig Von Mises

"Democracy is not, cannot be, and has never been anything more than glorified mob rule. It is the taking of an institution originally founded as a way for a group of religious military leaders to gain tribute from those that they subjugated by force, and turning it into a great popularity contest. Democracy is not pure; it is not sacred unless one considers a mob sacred. Democracy is not freedom unless one considers 4 men voting another 2 into slavery freedom, and indeed unless one agrees that the American slave trade was freedom. Democracy is the barbaric practice of having 51% of the population to put a gun to the head of the other 49%. Democracy takes humankind's oldest lie and turns it into a virtue to be sold off to those with the best speaking abilities and most appealing promises."
-Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 18, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
I don't know if I posted this or not:

Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Representative Democracy: Two thousand wolves and one thousand sheep electing two wolves and a sheep, who vote on what's for dinner.

Constitutional Republic: Two thousand wolves and one thousand sheep electing two wolves and a sheep, who vote on what's for dinner, but are restrained by a Constitution which states that they cannot eat sheep. The Supreme Court then determines (in a five wolves to four sheep ruling) that mutton does not count as sheep.

Liberty: Well-armed sheep contesting the above votes.

--Me (based on an old saying)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 18, 2010, 04:35:29 PMI don't know if I posted this or not:
Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
Representative Democracy: Two thousand wolves and one thousand sheep electing two wolves and a sheep, who vote on what's for dinner.
Constitutional Republic: Two thousand wolves and one thousand sheep electing two wolves and a sheep, who vote on what's for dinner, but are restrained by a Constitution which states that they cannot eat sheep. The Supreme Court then determines (in a five wolves to four sheep ruling) that mutton does not count as sheep.
Liberty: Well-armed sheep contesting the above votes.
--Me (based on an old saying)

"Liberty is what all true libertarians strive for!" --Me, combining that saying, Shane's quote and a youtube poop phrase.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2010, 02:40:16 PM
"I could care less about who are the real libertarians or anarchists.

I care about what works and whats doesn't.
So far you haven't made any points defending your views." --11mc22
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2010, 07:40:38 PM
"Perhaps, but they're primarily held responsible by their owners/parents. If the neighbor shits in the dog's yard, for example, the neighbor has a greater tendency to blame the owner for not controlling the dog rather than the dog itself, although he may be angry at both.
A little misanthropic, aren't we?" --Virgil0211

"'If the neighbor shits in the dog's yard...'
...then said neighbor has something wrong with him.
" --WhyCantIVote

Emphasize added to parts containing epic win by me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 20, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
Should that be a Fav Quote or a Fail Quote?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2010, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 20, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
Should that be a Fav Quote or a Fail Quote?
A fav quote.
Because, as I said, it made my day. :)
I haven't laughed that hard with someone in months.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Whycantivote on February 20, 2010, 09:50:27 PM
When trying to reason with socialists:

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on February 20, 2010, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 20, 2010, 07:40:38 PM
"Perhaps, but they're primarily held responsible by their owners/parents. If the neighbor shits in the dog's yard, for example, the neighbor has a greater tendency to blame the owner for not controlling the dog rather than the dog itself, although he may be angry at both.
A little misanthropic, aren't we?" --Virgil0211

"'If the neighbor shits in the dog's yard...'
...then said neighbor has something wrong with him.
" --WhyCantIVote

Emphasize added to parts containing epic win by me.

If the Pope shits in the woods... is the bear a Catholic?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 24, 2010, 10:36:05 AM
Here's one my father carried around in his wallet every day:

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.” --Theodore Roosevelt
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 24, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 24, 2010, 10:36:05 AM
Here's one my father carried around in his wallet every day:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." --Theodore Roosevelt

Thanks for posting this, Shane. I really needed that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 24, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 24, 2010, 12:05:38 PMThanks for posting this, Shane. I really needed that.
Seconded.

Another good quote: 

"The free market is the only thing that can [plan for the long term]!

Not the government [the state]; it only thinks until the next election.

Not the commons; it gets depleted quickly." --Shane
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 24, 2010, 01:55:55 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 24, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
Thanks for posting this, Shane. I really needed that.

Here's another you might find helpful:

"Life is like a sewer: What you get out of it depends on what you put into it." --Tom Lehrer
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 24, 2010, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 24, 2010, 01:55:55 PM
Here's another you might find helpful:

"Life is like a sewer: What you get out of it depends on what you put into it." --Tom Lehrer
That was priceless.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 25, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
"Except that [appealing to an expert] is still an appeal to authority.  Experts, even when dealing with their field of expertise, still have to present evidence to support their claims." --DeistPaladin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 27, 2010, 12:57:38 AM
"Sometimes the tree of economic prosperity needs to be watered with the blood of failed businesses." - PissedFechtmeister in this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14C-H3W03VI
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 27, 2010, 07:07:01 AM
"capitalism is about cooperation- figuring out the most efficient way for people to cooperate with each other without having the fruits of their labor taken from them by force. a single industrialist is useless- he needs to trade with others, goods and ideas, and everyone is better off for it. the poor get jobs, and products, that they wouldn't have the resources or ingenuity to create themselves. and the industrialists get rich. is it perfect? hell no. but to say that it is anti-cooperation is a butchering of the facts." - obsidianavenger, League of Reason

http://forums.leagueofreason.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3381

Before I go any further:  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Apparently, things are a tiny bit more civil in the philosophy section of the forum.

And again:  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 27, 2010, 07:16:42 AM
That user joined two months ago. So, new guy. We'll see if he has better luck than I did...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 27, 2010, 07:18:01 AM
Oop, but look at the next response...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 27, 2010, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 27, 2010, 07:07:01 AM
"capitalism is about cooperation- figuring out the most efficient way for people to cooperate with each other without having the fruits of their labor taken from them by force. a single industrialist is useless- he needs to trade with others, goods and ideas, and everyone is better off for it. the poor get jobs, and products, that they wouldn't have the resources or ingenuity to create themselves. and the industrialists get rich. is it perfect? hell no. but to say that it is anti-cooperation is a butchering of the facts." - obsidianavenger, League of Reason

http://forums.leagueofreason.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3381

Before I go any further:  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Apparently, things are a tiny bit more civil in the philosophy section of the forum.

And again:  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
*shits himself*
Damn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 27, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
"Both corporatism and socialism are theft." --Shane

"Statist logic:  It's the equivalent of dividing by zero." --Me, referring to that metric where the number of social programs corresponds to quality of life.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 27, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Is that the same as multiplied by zero?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 27, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on February 27, 2010, 02:52:10 PMIs that the same as multiplied by zero?
No, anything times zero is zero:
a*0 = 0.
Zero product property for the win. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 28, 2010, 12:04:55 AM
"NASA is one of the most inefficient agencies. Meanwhile the private market for communication satellites thrives. Even the few technologies that have benefited the rest of the world only became so when the free market was applied. You seem to think the government knows what's best for people than what people do. Fine, surrender as much money and freedom to them as you like, but do not advocate that others do the same." --kev3d

"Government should not be involved in education at all, same with the arts. The private market provides FAR better results. The greatest works of art were created for profit, for example." --kev3d

"What criteria? Why should the government decide what is "wanted"? Government funding "special projects" is the root of corruption and the next thing you know you have bridges to nowhere and astronauts testing the effect of zero gravity on jelly beans." --kev3d
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 28, 2010, 02:56:55 AM
Personally I am very interested in Zero and Low Gravity Jelly Beans.
I'm certain it'll be a boon for the dieat industry.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 02, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
"Liberty lies in our hearts, and once it dies there, no constitution can save it." --Learned Hand
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2010, 11:36:30 AM
"Because I really love you, the world just has to move." -- Schnuffel Kuschel (Snuggle Bunny)

"SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH WHEN BILLY MAYS IS TALKING!" --Billy Mays via YouTube Poop sentence mixing
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 02, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
That's quite a range, going straight from Learned Hand to a YouTube Poop...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2010, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 02, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
That's quite a range, going straight from Learned Hand to a YouTube Poop...
Hey, at least I put a quote from Snuggle Bunny to soften the blow. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 02, 2010, 02:47:52 PM
Bah, it's what the inside of my head looks like on any given day.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2010, 10:18:22 AM
"Most of the government offices closed, things shut down, checks didn't get in the mail, and so forth. And the Gallup Poll took a survey to find out how the American people felt about this. 17% of them thought it was a terrible thing, 19% of them thought it was a wonderful thing, 8% of them had no opinion whatsoever, and the other 54% didn't even notice the government had shut down." --Harry Browne, "I Dreamed They Repealed the 20th Century"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2010, 05:50:28 PM
Tim Slagle:

"In a recent poll by ABC and the Washington Post, they determined that 80% of America was opposed to the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC.  I would have like to seen something much more relevant, like how many people know that the case before the Supreme Court was even called “Citizens United v. FEC?”"

"Strangely, when the Democrats are on the losing side of the poll, they are drawn to Republicanism quicker than an accused felon finds religion."

From: http://biggovernment.com/tslagle/2010/02/20/freedom-to-censor/

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2010, 07:32:18 PM
"And if the flying spaghetti monster is correct you both are screwed and I get a stripper factory and a beer volcano. Ramen." --YouTube user johnrainrules responding to a discussion of Pascal's Wager
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2010, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 02, 2010, 11:36:30 AM"SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH WHEN BILLY MAYS IS TALKING!" --Billy Mays via YouTube Poop sentence mixing
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Found the source of the quote.
I'm fucking ecstatic right now. :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 05, 2010, 03:29:03 PM
Requiescat in pace, Billy Mays. *cuts his throat*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 07, 2010, 11:23:54 AM
"Set it free and let it be:  the laissez faire economy!" --My motto of economic and social policy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 07, 2010, 12:11:24 PM
If you really love it, eh?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 07, 2010, 06:40:51 PM
"I don't give a rat's ass about Friedman. He was an enabler of the most harmful aspect of Keynes's policy recommendations (the inflationary monetary aspects), and in so doing linked those policies (and their results) in the popular mind with free market economics. I dare say he has done more damage than any Keynesian or socialist to the free-market cause." --nonantianarchist
Source:  The comments of this video
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Man, the poster of the above video, radiohogan is a typical dogmatic Statist.
A know-it-all condescending prick, full of double standards, and the usual gall.
Man, why can't these people just...die, already...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 07, 2010, 07:29:07 PM
Because god loves us.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on March 07, 2010, 11:24:06 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 07, 2010, 06:40:51 PM
"I don't give a rat's ass about Friedman. He was an enabler of the most harmful aspect of Keynes's policy recommendations (the inflationary monetary aspects), and in so doing linked those policies (and their results) in the popular mind with free market economics. I dare say he has done more damage than any Keynesian or socialist to the free-market cause." --nonantianarchist
Source:  The comments of this video
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Man, the poster of the above video, radiohogan is a typical dogmatic Statist.
A know-it-all condescending prick, full of double standards, and the usual gall.
Man, why can't these people just...die, already...

I love how he says one of his biggest interests was economics, and then makes videos about the labor theory of value. That thing has been dead and buried for so long, there's no way he could have taken a single class in economics and take it seriously. Even Keynes wasn't stupid enough to buy into that shit. Two words: Marginal Utility.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 08, 2010, 12:30:50 AM
QuoteMan, why can't these people just...die, already...

Because if the socialists die, then we all have to kill ourselves too otherwise it's not fair.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 08, 2010, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on March 07, 2010, 11:24:06 PMI love how he says one of his biggest interests was economics, and then makes videos about the labor theory of value. That thing has been dead and buried for so long, there's no way he could have taken a single class in economics and take it seriously. Even Keynes wasn't stupid enough to buy into that shit. Two words: Marginal Utility.

Did you read his replies to NonAntiAnarchist?
He claims to have (surprise!) a degree in economics.
Shane, me, you and anyone with a functioning brain and/or the slightist knowledge of economics:  YEAH RIGHT!!!

He also claims that: "You are assuming people save with paper money. Americans do not save at all. This is their answer to inflation.

Asians, on the other hand, exchange paper money for gold (Indians & Chinese, for example). There are the folks who now control the world. What we do doesn't matter. The Chineses are converting paper money into commodities as fast as they can (copper, iron, etc.)."

My apologies if this violates the forum rules if he's displaying bigotry, but I'm too tired to give a good paraphrase...
Nevermind he didn't provide a single source for this odd claim and even if he did, he still didn't answer a very VERY important question:  What are the controls?

He goes on with: "Asians have always saved 30% or more. Americans never saved more then 10% years ago. Americans have had a negative saving rate for decades. How does economics explain such a monster difference? It can't. Only anthropology or sociology can study cultural differences.

We borrowed from the savers (Asians). Karl Marx wrote 'whoever rules China rules the world.'"
1.  HUGE argument from ignorance.
2.  Again, what is his source?
3.  If so, does that period include when we were on a gold standard?
4.  If so, what are the controls?
5.  Is he comparing like to like (commodity standard to commodity standard, etc)?
6.  Are those likes compared the same way, using the same techniques (e.g. the USA and Europe count unhealthy babies born differently and that effected their infant mortality rates and life expectancy).

I also saw him call Karl Marx a "great social scientist".
Given his vast lack of understanding of how science, even College Freshman level Social Scientific Methodology, works; he looks like a creationist saying that "Kent Hovind is an amazing Biologist".

I suspect he's making like PawelKolasa (the geocentrist Shane debunked a while back) and is just pulling shit out of his ass.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on March 08, 2010, 01:10:23 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 08, 2010, 12:50:51 AM
Did you read his replies to NonAntiAnarchist?
He claims to have (surprise!) a degree in economics.
YEAH RIGHT!!!

He also claims that: "You are assuming people save with paper money. Americans do not save at all. This is their answer to inflation.

Asians, on the other hand, exchange paper money for gold (Indians & Chinese, for example). There are the folks who now control the world. What we do doesn't matter. The Chineses are converting paper money into commodities as fast as they can (copper, iron, etc.)."

My apologies if this violates the forum rules if he's displaying bigotry, but I'm too tired to give a good paraphrase...
Nevermind he didn't provide a single source for this odd claim and even if he did, he still didn't answer a very VERY important question:  What are the controls?

He goes on with: "Asians have always saved 30% or more. Americans never saved more then 10% years ago. Americans have had a negative saving rate for decades. How does economics explain such a monster difference? It can't. Only anthropology or sociology can study cultural differences.

We borrowed from the savers (Asians). Karl Marx wrote 'whoever rules China rules the world.'"
1.  HUGE argument from ignorance.
2.  Again, what is his source?
3.  If so, does that period include when we were on a gold standard?
4.  If so, what are the controls?
5.  Is he comparing like to like (commodity standard to commodity standard, etc)?
6.  Are those likes compared the same way, using the same techniques (e.g. the USA and Europe count unhealthy babies born differently and that effected their infant mortality rates and life expectancy).

I also saw him call Karl Marx a "great social scientist".
Given his vast lack of understanding of how science, even College Freshman level Social Scientific Methodology, he looks like a creationist saying that "Kent Hovind is an amazing Biologist".

I suspect he's making like PawelKolasa (the geocentrist Shane debunked a while back) and is just pulling shit out of his ass.

Wow... Just... Wow...

And another fucked up thing with these socialists? They keep screaming exploitation, that the factory owners control the means of production. Here's the problem. They specifically limit their criteria to exclude labor as a means of production. However, in modern day economics, labor, along with other capital, is seen as an input, that which is used to produce a good or service. Who controls labor? The workers. So, really, the control over the means of production is split. In addition, households (again, workers) do the saving that is then borrowed by firms to purchase more capital and expand their businesses in order to produce the goods and services consumed by households. In the end, what the socialists see as exploitation is instead a symbiotic process. The firms and households live and die by the actions of the other. This keeps both sides in check, and prevents one from exploiting the other. That is, until you introduce the sabots of violent force into the machinery and fuck everything up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 08, 2010, 04:50:03 AM
Should'nt those be in the fail quotes then?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 08, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 08, 2010, 04:50:03 AM
Should'nt those be in the fail quotes then?
True...
I just had to get his stupidity off of my chest.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 09, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
"It is, they say, not Russia that plans aggression but, on the contrary, the decaying capitalist democracies. Russia wants merely to defend its own independence. This is an old and well-tried method of justifying aggression. Louis XIV and Napoleon I, Wilhelm II and Hitler were the most peace-loving of all men. When they invaded foreign countries, they did so only in just self-defence. Russia was as much menaced by Estonia or Latvia as Germany was by Luxemburg or Denmark." --Ludwig von Mises, Epilogue

Man, does that sound like our foreign policy today or what?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
"I have never heard any suggestion from a minarchist on how to limit the power and expansion of the state, other than what was already tried in the initial experiment. It's always either the 'magic paper'-hypothesis, or an appeal to the Hobbesian story." --PanzerDivisionBOM on Shane's 3rd HD Constitution Lecture video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2010, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 09, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
"It is, they say, not Russia that plans aggression but, on the contrary, the decaying capitalist democracies. Russia wants merely to defend its own independence. This is an old and well-tried method of justifying aggression. Louis XIV and Napoleon I, Wilhelm II and Hitler were the most peace-loving of all men. When they invaded foreign countries, they did so only in just self-defence. Russia was as much menaced by Estonia or Latvia as Germany was by Luxemburg or Denmark." --Ludwig von Mises, Epilogue

Man, does that sound like our foreign policy today or what?
Damn.
Moral of the story, Interventionism (whether economic or military) is bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2010, 07:08:14 PM
"The state is an evolutionary relic. Statistically private defense contracting has been more successful than the US military. It should follow that the same would be true for security contracting. It doesn't matter who our 'enemy' is. The choice is between a huge conglomeration of the worlds most useless people or a decentralized profit based form of economics in military industrial matters. So this is my proposal in answer to the militia issue. It's not a political issue. It's pure business." --GrandArchitect3D, "Liberals are cunts" by InTheEndIWasRight (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=CCV0MZ0irWU)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 11, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
Does he mean contractors like Blackwater?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2010, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 11, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
Does he mean contractors like Blackwater?
Ask him yourself. :P
I linked the video where the comment was made.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2010, 08:44:25 PM
"(I just realized I'm trying to talk sense into a guy who voluntarily chose to name himself 'clown porn'...)"--Shanedk, Re: Healthcare, Let's Help Each Other (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpeoZsCobrM)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 13, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
"Do not bother responding to gklr he is a troll he is only here to get channel views and waste your time. If you really want to run around in circles trying to debate him you can but you will never get anywhere, he will never recognize the validity of any of your arguments and he will intentionally make dumb arguments to get a rise out of you. He will also respond by taking your points out of context.

If the 'fuck you' video he has on his channel does not give him away his comment history will"--Valmarith (another person gklr is fucking around with...)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 13, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
"I'm not so much anti-religion as I am pro-freedom so if religion were pro-freedom, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  But then again, if religion were pro-freedom, it wouldn't exist."  Pat Condell

I've noted you can say the same about the state.  But then again, it's amazing how frequently the church and the state can be interchanged.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 13, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
"I'm not so much anti-religion as I am pro-freedom so if religion were pro-freedom, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  But then again, if religion were pro-freedom, it wouldn't exist."  Pat Condell

I've noted you can say the same about the state.  But then again, it's amazing how frequently the church and the state can be interchanged.
Well, as ConfederalSocialist has explained in his videos called, "Mommy Government" the state is an outgrowth of religion (or something like that).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 16, 2010, 03:45:24 PM
"Dictionaries DO NOT define words. They only report popular usage. They ARE NOT authoritative sources." --Shane to some dude in his healthcare video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on March 16, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 16, 2010, 03:45:24 PM
"Dictionaries DO NOT define words. They only report popular usage. They ARE NOT authoritative sources." --Shane to some dude in his healthcare video

I can see this becoming a problem if it's not already. While it's true dictionaries can be terrible in containing accurate scientific definitions for colloquial words (like AronRa pointed out with "animal" and "monkey"), for political terms they sometimes are in agreement with common usage and sometimes not. If dictionaries are only a conveyance of popular usage (they don't "define" the words as much as just render on pages what speakers of the language agree to), won't this create problems in arguments like the ones you guys have had with others? (If you thought ad hominem recursus was bad already...)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 16, 2010, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: valvatica on March 16, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
I can see this becoming a problem if it's not already. While it's true dictionaries can be terrible in containing accurate scientific definitions for colloquial words (like AronRa pointed out with "animal" and "monkey"), for political terms they sometimes are in agreement with common usage and sometimes not. If dictionaries are only a conveyance of popular usage (they don't "define" the words as much as just render on pages what speakers of the language agree to), won't this create problems in arguments like the ones you guys have had with others? (If you thought ad hominem recursus was bad already...)
It's especially bad for more complex philosophical positions like "Atheism" and "Anarchy".
Check out the featured video on my youtube page by Ffreethinker to see what I mean...
Simply put, the dictionaries are full of shit with their definitions of Atheism, some even going as far as equating it to Hedonism (wtf?).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2010, 11:40:04 AM
"If the only arguments for the existence of god contain logical fallacies, god may as well be a fallacy." --Unattributed quote on Morrakiu's userpage

"If the only arguments for the existence of a good/necessary state contain logical fallacies, the state may as well be a fallacy."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2010, 11:41:23 PM
"You're right that economics is complicated, which is exactly why free market thinkers don't pretend to be able to fully understand it enough to attempt centralized planning like you advocate." --Codad, The Free Market Was Framed: Government Intervention Caused The Financial Crisis by Jacob Spinney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDp65Juibes)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 23, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
"I - USE - EXTENZE - AND NOW - MY COCK - IS SO BIG - IN SOME STATES, IT'S EVEN ILLEGAL" --Billy Mays in a YouTube poop (more sentence mixing)

Here's the source for those who are wondering:  [yt]oyMrvTX2I9U[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 24, 2010, 05:24:28 PM
"Remember, when it comes to perpetrating a hoax, NASA has infinite resources, infinite talents and infinite competence. They lack competence in only one regard: landing humans on the moon." --YouTube user ApolloWasReal
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 26, 2010, 08:53:43 PM
"Save the World.  Smash the State."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 03, 2010, 11:24:07 PM
"Sup dawg, I herd u didn't liek forming babby, but I accidentally in your base." --xkcd comic strip.

Thank Shane for getting me addicted to that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2010, 10:43:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 31, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
"Communicating badly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness." --XKCD #169
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/words_that_end_in_gry.png)

Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 05, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
And the mouseover text: "The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2010, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 05, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
And the mouseover text: "The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists."
True dat.

Here's another one: (http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/search_history.png)
"As if I needed another reason to hate AOL...The only reason I even use them at all is for the IM service they have, and only then because so many of my friends us it..."--me on the above comic strip.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: The Late Andrew Ryan on April 06, 2010, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 05, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
And the mouseover text: "The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists."

For the love of god what exactly are postmodernists? I've never actually encountered one but everytime I try to read the wikipedia discription on it I just can't grasp exactly what these people are supposed to believe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: The Late Andrew Ryan on April 06, 2010, 11:09:36 AM
For the love of god what exactly are postmodernists? I've never actually encountered one but everytime I try to read the wikipedia discription on it I just can't grasp exactly what these people are supposed to believe.
People who believe truth is relative, or something like that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2010, 11:37:47 AM
"Honey comes from 4chan."--1:32 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOcpw2duBs)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 08, 2010, 04:20:33 PM
Frederic Bastiat is very much underrated:

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone."
"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
"When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will."
"Taxes must, in the end, fall upon the consumer"

Apologies if any of these are re-posts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 09, 2010, 06:06:32 PM
"The free market contains no coercive mechanism to grant special privileges to any one party. Only the government has the power to initiate coercion [in this fashion]. You want a single, monopolistic institution to have plenary power to order society as it sees fit, and you're going to pretend to be surprised when it turns out to be dominated by antisocial forces?"--Thomas E. Woods, Jr. Anatomy of an Economic Ignoramus (http://mises.org/daily/3695)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 12, 2010, 10:49:07 PM
"as atheists, they see themselves as the epitome of reason, as modern liberals they view everyone either as dumb, helpless puppies, or greedy suit men. only through their great reason and higher morals can they guide all the morons to utopia, saving them from the exploitation of the suits.
it's a thin veneer of moralizing bullshit covering an ocean of malice and brutality." --junior00bacon00chee, Secession & retard liberals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tgzlrMPWWA)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 13, 2010, 07:49:03 PM
"[W]e should pay people to dig a ditch and bury Keynesianism in it."

"Trying to cure a recession with more cheap credit is like trying to cure chemotherapy with more cancer."

from Daily Kos, of all places: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/1/8929/21462
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 14, 2010, 11:36:42 AM
"Taxes are the price we are forced to pay for the state, not civilization." --InTheEndIWasRight
"State =/= civilization" --Morrakiu
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 14, 2010, 01:37:20 PM
"Democracy is a failure.  Accept it and move on."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
"Yo Creationists, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish but Charles Darwin had one of the best scientific theories of all time. One of the best scientific theories of all time!"--Me, and Kanye West.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2010, 06:00:41 PM
"If Adolf Hitler had actually existed, would you have fought for him or against him?" --Baya Rae 4900 (emphasis added by me)

Source:  (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/8/86/Hitlerexisted.png)

I would have made it a fail quote, but this was one where it was just so damn funny, it HAD to be put here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
Ludwig von Mises was the man.
All of the following quotes are attributed to him, and are from "The Quotable Mises" bit at Mises.org.


"With regard to economic goods, there can never be absolute overproduction." - Planning for Freedom

"The capitalist system of production is an economic democracy in which every penny gives a right to vote. The consumers are the sovereign people. The capitalists, the entrepreneurs, and the farmers are the peoples mandatories." - Bureaucracy

"Monetary calculation and cost accounting constitute the most important intellectual tool of the capitalist entrepreneur, and it was no one less than Goethe who pronounced the system of double-entry bookkeeping one of the finest inventions of the human mind." - Liberalism

"Under such a socialist mode of production all personal incentives which selfishness provides under capitalism are removed, and a premium is put upon laziness and negligence. Whereas in a capitalist society selfishness incites everyone to the utmost diligence, in a socialist society it makes for inertia and laxity." - Human Action

"Foreign-exchange control is today primarily a device for the virtual expropriation of foreign investments. It has destroyed the international capital and money market." - The Theory of Money and Credit

"Nazism conquered Germany because it never encountered any adequate intellectual resistance." - Omnipotent Government

"The romantic revolt against logic and science does not limit itself to the sphere of social phenomena. . . . It is a revolt against our entire culture and civilization." - Epistemological Problems of Economics

"It is vain to object that life and reality are not logical. Life and reality are neither logical nor illogical; they are simply given. But logic is the only tool available to man for the comprehension of both." - Human Action

"Every socialist is a disguised dictator." - Human Action
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2010, 11:11:59 PM
82abhilash:  "Do you ever get the feeling that we are slipping into the dark ages?"

Shane:  "No.
I get the feeling that many people are trying to put chains around our feet and DRAG us into the dark ages."

Me: "Be it the creationist liars, state dogmatists; or dogmatists in general..."

I simply HAD to add this little exchange.
The part from me wasn't a part of the original exchange, but was just me adding my two cents.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 18, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
"This is what I hate about democracy. It gives the illusion of freedom." --TheSupremeSketpic
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
"My populist tactics have made quite an impression
I transformed the republic's regression
You know me, tyranny, still I'm taking a bow
So say it loud and say it proud, we're all emperors now!"--opheliaic on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRvjZbspAc0) by Morrakiu

Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Modern war is not a war of royal armies. It is a war of the peoples, a total war. It is a war of states which do not leave to their subjects any private sphere; they consider the whole population a part of the armed forces. Whoever does not fight must work for the support and equipment of the army. Army and people are one and the same. The citizens passionately participate in the war. For it is their state, their God, who fights." - Omnipotent Government
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 25, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
"In a democracy, of course, you always get a choice. Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue? It's entirely up to you. Do you want to be patronized, or condescended to? By liars or by crooks? You get to choose. Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted, or ignored? By con men, or by charlatans? In short, do you want your influence to be zero, or nil? And when would you like to be listened to: never, or not at all? It's your choice. Do you want some more choice? Take it, or leave it--now there's a real choice!"

"If either of [the major parties] wins, democracy will lose, and you know that, too. Now THAT is what I call a wasted vote."

--Pat Condell, from this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
Sounds like Pat Condell is waking up the idea that maybe democracy isn't all it's cracked up to be. :)
He's clearly awakened to the idea that voting for a party other than the main party is NOT a wasted vote.
And that government/states tend to work best when it is most localized.
You go Pat!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2010, 01:21:09 AM
The proper reply to anyone using ad hominem to mean "name calling" or "verbal abuse" while claiming to be a skeptic and smarter than you:

"Let me Google that for you. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ad+hominem%E2%80%8E&l=1)" --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That which can be asserted without evidence can be discarded without evidence." -- Carl Sagan, last time I checked.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Whycantivote on April 26, 2010, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 25, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
"In a democracy, of course, you always get a choice. Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue? It's entirely up to you. Do you want to be patronized, or condescended to? By liars or by crooks? You get to choose. Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted, or ignored? By con men, or by charlatans? In short, do you want your influence to be zero, or nil? And when would you like to be listened to: never, or not at all? It's your choice. Do you want some more choice? Take it, or leave it--now there's a real choice!"

"If either of [the major parties] wins, democracy will lose, and you know that, too. Now THAT is what I call a wasted vote."

--Pat Condell, from this video:

[yt-43]krybvOx-8Dk[/yt-43]

Interestingly there are now three "major" parties in the UK: the Conservative/Labour duopoly could be broken by the Liberal Democrat party. If that does happen it could provide other minor parties with a chance to increase their influence in Parliament - although most of the UK's minor parties are merely extremist versions of the major parties (the UKIP, which Pat Condell supports, seems to be an offshoot of the Conservative party).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 27, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
Someone was going on about how companies lie about their products all the time and we need the politicians to stop them and so on and so forth.

"Tell me...what promises did your PM make when he was last campaigning?

How many of them has he kept?

I didn't think so"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
"What I'm objecting to is the opinion that since we learn a different way we must, therefore, be ignorant." -VeritasEtLibertas82
A comment on this video:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 25, 2010, 08:23:18 PM--Pat Condell, from this video:

Well, Richard "The Dick" Coughlan didn't like that:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Whycantivote on April 29, 2010, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
Well, Richard "The Dick" Coughlan didn't like that:

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The UKIP isn't any better than the other parties. They talk about reform but it doesn't sound like they'll reduce government spending or decrease the government's power by a significant amount. Their immigration policy is draconian.

Their policies (and the policies of the other UK parties) can be viewed here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8515961.stm#subject=key&col1=conservative&col2=labour&col3=libdem (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8515961.stm#subject=key&col1=conservative&col2=labour&col3=libdem)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 29, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
Then again is there ever anything that HE likes?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Whycantivote on April 29, 2010, 04:51:46 PMThe UKIP isn't any better than the other parties. They talk about reform but it doesn't sound like they'll reduce government spending or decrease the government's power by a significant amount. Their immigration policy is draconian.

Yeah, I can only conclude that the word "libertarian" means a different thing over there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Whycantivote on April 29, 2010, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
Yeah, I can only conclude that the word "libertarian" means a different thing over there.

In Europe many small, euroskeptic conservative parties will refer to themselves as libertarian. Those parties invariably have extremist, xenophobic immigration policies -normally in the name of defending "Judeo-Christian culture"- but will endorse minor public spending cuts, or will endorse public spending cuts only slightly larger than those proposed by the mainstream parties, in order to justify their use of the word libertarian (although by their logic even Margaret Thatcher is a libertarian). They also avoid issues such as drug legalization or privatization of public services and usually favour an expansion of the military -the UKIP wants to increase the military budget by 40%.

An actual libertarian party in the EU would probably need to refer to itself as a "capitalist liberal" party (the word "liberal" doesn't have the same implications in the EU as it does in the USA).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 29, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
Yeah, I can only conclude that the word "libertarian" means a different thing over there.

You say Tomato, I say Luftwaffe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2010, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 29, 2010, 03:57:16 PMWell, Richard "The Dick" Coughlan didn't like that:

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Pat Condell responds:
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I find it ironic that he claims the United State Constitution is, "The greatest document ever written." Yet holds mob rule (democracy) on such high merit.  I suspect he hasn't read the constitution, and/or is paying lip service to the ideals of a constitutional republic.

"Democracy is not freedom.  It is mob rule; a tyranny where the majority imposes their will--at gunpoint--on the minority.
It is a god that fails everytime it is tried; from the Greek city states to Rome after the fall of their republic.  In practice it is shown to be the biggest empowerment to special interests and power seeking politicians there is."--Me on Democracy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 03, 2010, 03:35:41 PM
Let me see if I understand him correctly:

Sure, the UKIP are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation, but at least they want to keep a form of government in Britain that allows you to oppose them and defend yourself against them, as opposed to the other parties, who are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation and STOP you from opposing them and defending yourself against them.

Do I have that right?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 03, 2010, 07:24:20 PM
I don't think you have to extra call politicians dangerous lunatics. That's pretty much a given.
But yeah, that's pretty much how I understood his argument.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 03, 2010, 03:35:41 PM
Let me see if I understand him correctly:

Sure, the UKIP are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation, but at least they want to keep a form of government in Britain that allows you to oppose them and defend yourself against them, as opposed to the other parties, who are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation and STOP you from opposing them and defending yourself against them.

Do I have that right?
Pretty much, only add "oppose the EU's threat to Britain's national sovereignty" to "oppose them" and you got it! :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Whycantivote on May 04, 2010, 12:22:40 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 03, 2010, 03:35:41 PM
Let me see if I understand him correctly:

Sure, the UKIP are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation, but at least they want to keep a form of government in Britain that allows you to oppose them and defend yourself against them, as opposed to the other parties, who are a bunch of deranged lunatics who want to pass dangerous legislation and STOP you from opposing them and defending yourself against them.

Do I have that right?

The UKIP wants to withdraw from the EU, close the borders and deport all illegal immigrants. They aren't going to implement a bill of rights, they aren't going to cut the £700Billion budget by any more than the other parties, they aren't going to change the House of Lords but they are going to move powers away from the devolved parliaments and back into Westminster and they are going to give themselves the authority to declare war.

The UKIP is little more than an extremist version of the Conservative party.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 05, 2010, 02:39:34 PM
"Those of us that disagree with government regulations aren’t against refs and rules. We’re against a single monopoly of the rulemaking that has been repeatedly and almost universally captured by the very industries it supposedly “regulates” and used to harm consumers, restrict competition and erect barriers to entry in order to protect politically powerful incumbent corporations." --John Papola
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on May 05, 2010, 08:16:54 PM
A response to the 'Restore Stephen Baldwin' video I posted in the fail quotes: [yt]CKNqc3a9Xqs&feature=player_embedded[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 11, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
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That image is made of win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:40:33 PM
Unless otherwise stated, all of the following are from OKCupid's Militant-Mike1.
While his profile is fuckwin, he tends to have less-than-awesome grammar, which I will try to correct, but leave out for brevity.
Also, at one point he uses the f-word used as a derogatory slur for a homosexual to describe U.S. leftists, which I will edit out, due to Shane's rule against bigoted language.
The latter is also the reason why I have not posted his OKCupid profile's URL here.
What's more, because of the shear volume of words to be used, this will span several posts.
I hope you all enjoy these as much as I do. :)

"I do not surrender my treasures, nor do I share them. The fortune of my spirit is not to be blown into coins of brass and flung to the winds as alms for the poor of the spirit. I guard my treasures: my thought, my will, my freedom. And the greatest of these is freedom."

"Liberty is not negotiable. I will not allow you to pick and choose what liberties I am entitled to enjoy. Liberty is my natural right at birth. I will not compromise away the most precious thing I posses as a human being, Liberty. There can be no compromise with freedom and government control. To accept 'just a few' violations of liberty is to surrender the principle of inalienable individual rights. Likewise when there is a compromise between justice and injustice, the result is an injustice. When there is a compromise between rationality and irrationality, the result is irrational. When there is a compromise between integrity and hypocrisy, the result is hypocrisy. Therefore any compromise between freedom and slavery, results in slavery. If you wish to give up your liberty for safety or whatever else you think is worth that price, you are free to do so. You however have NO right to make this choice for me."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
"The good of 'society' has replaced the notion that the individual has a sacred right to live unmolested by government interference."
- Ron Paul

"I believe all human interaction should be voluntary; no exceptions. That even applies to those people calling themselves 'government'. Only the psychopaths of the world believe it's OK to shoot people to provide services. It doesn't matter what the service is; you don't shoot people to build roads or to pay for schools."
Or to provide health care.

"That two men have no more natural right to exercise any kind of authority over one, than one has to exercise the same authority over two. A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber (or by any other name indicating his true character), or by millions calling themselves a government." -- Lysander Spooner
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
"The State! Always and ever the government and its rulers and opera­tors have been considered above the general moral law. The 'Pentagon Papers' are only one recent instance among innumerable instances in history of men, most of whom are perfectly honorable in their private lives, who lie in their teeth before the public. Why? For 'reasons of State.' Service to the State is supposed to excuse all actions that would be considered immoral or criminal if committed by 'private' citizens. The distinctive feature of libertarians is that they coolly and uncompro­misingly apply the general moral law to people acting in their roles as members of the State apparatus. Libertarians make no exceptions. For centuries, the State (or more strictly, individuals acting in their roles as 'members of the government') has cloaked its criminal activity in high-sounding rhetoric. For centuries the State has committed mass murder and called it 'war'; then ennobled the mass slaughter that 'war' involves. For centuries the State has enslaved people into its armed battalions and called it 'conscription' in the 'national service.' For centuries the State has robbed people at bayonet [gun-] point and called it 'taxation.' In fact, if you wish to know how libertarians regard the State and any of its acts, simply think of the State as a criminal band, and all of the libertarian attitudes will logically fall into place." -- Murray Rothbard

"Off goes the head of the king, and tyranny gives way to freedom. The change seems abysmal. Then, bit by bit, the face of freedom hardens, and by and by it is the old face of tyranny. Then another cycle, and another. But under the play of all these opposites there is something fundamental and permanent — the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free."--H. L. Mencken

"It doesn't seem to me that people who are serious about freedom can indulge themselves too much longer in the fantasy that freedom can be advanced through politics without the risk of doing themselves substantial hurt. Politics are the dynamic of government, government is theft and slavery, and we can achieve freedom through political action like we can achieve celibacy through rape."--Victor Milan
I don't necessarily agree with this one, however, it's still a fav because it makes a nice point.

In his "I spend a lot of time thinking about" section of his profile:
"How anyone can believe Socialism is motivated by benevolence. The very premise of Socialism has always disgusted me to my core:

'Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.'--Ayn Rand"

"Democracy, and how I hate how total fucking dumb asses' votes count as much as mine; and how much I hate the evil premise of democracy:

You belong to everyone else."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:57:05 PM
"When most people I hear in my daily life discuss politics or anything dealing with government in general this is all I hear:

'Blah, blah, blah, I'm going to send men with guns to your house and coerce you to do as I say. Take your money to spend on whatever I think is a better use of it, and to add insult to injury, I'm going to pretend its my right to do such, and call you selfish, evil, and un-American for just wanting to be free and left alone!'"

"I like turtles." (What? It made me laugh.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 05:11:35 PM
All of the following will be from the "You should message me if" section of Mike's profile:

"First off you shouldn't message [me] if:

You are some pseudo 'rebel'. All you Democrat douche bags piss me off more than the Republicans do. At least Republicans don't pretend to be against the status quo, and 'hate' the government. You guys sure loved the government during the shitty Clinton years. I don't remember any of you commie red democrat douche-bags having any complaints about any of Clinton's little wars. Just come out and admit it, you only think war is bad when the war president has a 'R' next to his name. War is waged for good and noble reasons when waged by a democrat. Give me a fucking break. What pisses me off about you people the most is how you harp about how the Republicans are such tools, and how enlightened and good you are. In reality, you are the biggest fucking tools around. Stop pretending you are fighting the status quo, YOU ARE THE STATUS QUO!

You support Barack Obama for president, and think he is for change. I'm getting so sick of hearing about how great Obama is, and how much 'change' will happen. Obama is an evil calculating politician, like all the rest. I hope he wins so all you ass-hats will be so disappointed when he doesn't bring our troops home, and sends more troops to Afghanistan and all the other places he wants to send them. Looks like when Obama talks about change he just meant changing where we send our troops. He voted for the bail out. You Obama-zombies are so naive. I will not be voting for this socialist war monger.

You think John McCain is the lesser evil. John McCain is as much as a socialist war monger as his buddy Barack Obama. If you can't understand this simple fact, I have no desire to waste time conversing with you.

People who believe the problem is Bush, and just the Republican party. Yes I will admit Bush is PART of the problem, and he needs to meet justice. What you fucktards don't realize is, there was a problem before Bush, and there will still be one no matter what establishment crony wins this sham we call elections.

I do not care what your personal opinions of guns are. But if you think that dislike of something gives you the right to disarm people, move along tyrant. I'm sure its clear from my words there are MANY things I dislike, but you don't see me advocating their prohibition, do you?

If you think Lincoln was a good president and great human being, please go kill yourself.

You support 'Anarchist' Communism. That is a oxymoron if there ever was one. So tell me how you plan on smashing a naturally arising [and therefore default] system like Capitalism, without a massive state?... I never see anyone besides fellow Market Anarchists falling on the 'Anarchist' section, you people always land down on socialist, where you statist swines belong.

I would like to make clear, I have no problem whatsoever with any VOLUNTARY, socialism or communism. As long as everyone consents, it is fine with me.

I have nothing but hatred for all new age bullshit. From astrology, to healing crystals, Feng Shui, or whatever else your trendy ass is claiming to believe in to show how cultured and enlightened you are. New agers are the most pretentious cunts I have ever come across. Total fucking tools.

Eastern religious people tend to annoy the shit out of me, as they tend to be liberal types that want to be fashionable and adopt some westernized version of some Eastern philosophy so they don't have to call themselves 'atheist' or 'agnostic'. And related to my hatred of New Age especially is Wiccans and those Neo-Pagan treehugger morons that adopt their beliefs because they got into an argument with their mothers and want to piss them off. You know they're almost always teenage girls with mommy issues. At least someone who is, Christian, Jewish, etc is doing it because they believe in or were raised that way, not just to be an elitist prick, "cultured", "open minded" or a "free thinker."

People with blind hatred of Capitalism. I'm so sick of people who clearly have never bothered to read an economics book but yet have strong opinions and knee jerk reactions to Capitalism while not even understanding it and confusing it for Corporatism or some bastardized version of a so-called 'free market'.

If you have ever said in conversations these lines:
'There ought to be law against that!' or 'The government should do something about that!' particularly in regards to some bullshit notion of 'social justice' or protecting people from themselves; we will NOT get along."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 05:15:14 PM
"Now you should message me if:

You do not advocate [the initiation of] force to achieve your ends.

You do not want to take/steal my property or have others do it for you, including people called the state, for any reason.

You are not an absolute ethical subjectivist (insofar that you believe 'anything goes' and that you can do whatever you want) or an utilitarian.

You don't view human lives and their property as just a calculation in your cost-benefit analysis.

You have a passion for Justice.

You value Justice over 'tolerance' and 'acceptance.'

'Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.'-- G.K Chesterton

You are tolerant of other forms of organization and interaction than the kind that you promote.

You long for things as they could and should be, regardless of how things are.

You reject democracy and view it as another form of control over the individual. Might does not make right--no man, or group of men in any size or number, has any right to command another man for the sheer reason that that view is popular. If the lynch mob kills a man simply because he is unpopular, it is murder all the same, even if that mob consisted of every other person."

Woo!
That was long.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 05:18:16 PM
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The philosophy of Utilitarianism:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2010, 05:42:36 PM
"A common retort to anti-statism is that it is Utopian.  The people making this assertion seem to think that anti-statists believe that getting rid of the state will abolish all initiations of force, stop all robbery, stop all fraud and solve all problems.
However, this is not so.
We simply believe that stopping the initiations of force, robbery, fraud and problems caused by the state would be an outstanding start in the right direction, and a necessary one if we are to progress into society." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
In response to the first 1 minutes, 55 seconds of this video:
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"Actually, Mr. Rothbard, I can make this even easier for you.
War is justified if and only if:

1. It is a purely defensive war: no preemptive 'we need to fight them there so we don't have to fight them here' bullshit.
2. The people fighting in it and funding it do so on a voluntary basis alone.
3. If all other peaceful measures and options have been tried and failed.
4. If it does not involve meddling in the affairs of others.

Your basis of 'overthrowing an oppressive power' could be used to justify the BS that is the Iraq invasion.
As it is given as a justification for the Iraq War, and for the Cold War--which you yourself oppose."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 20, 2010, 01:16:03 AM
There are a lot of doors being opend and shut with creaking noises.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2010, 06:39:45 PM
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This entire video is a fav quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2010, 07:17:15 PM
As is this journal entry by Militant-Mike1 (just giving credit where it's due).
I will bold the part that is my favorite:

QuoteSpontaneous Order

Jun. 15, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KECcfKViog

"liberty not the daughter but the mother of order," - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon



I loved this video, but have two major complaints with it.

1. Anti-religious where it really doesn't need to be.  I don't care for religion myself, but I don't see why there would cease to be religion in an anarchist society. Religion is voluntary, and some religious people are also anarchists.

2. At the end the videos it asks if Anarchy is practical now, and it says no for now it is utopia. I take issue with this part because of poor wording.  Anarchy is impractical now, not because it cannot work, but because people are not anarchists. Until people reject the notion of states, we will not have our 'anarchy' long. Let's say we smashed the state tomorrow, without first converting humanity to be anarchistic, they would still be statists, disorder would take place, they would blame anarchists, say that statism is right, and demand a strong leader to bring them order, and a Hitler type would rise to meet that demand and would have much popular support. The way the video words it makes it sound like they are saying anarchism is unpractical now, and doesn't explain at all by what they mean.

In spite of these 2 things I'd give this video A-
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 21, 2010, 08:17:24 PM
Isn't his point #2 exactly what communists say?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2010, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 21, 2010, 08:17:24 PMIsn't his point #2 exactly what communists say?

Now that you mention it, you do have a good point about that.
Oh well.
It did and still does remind me of a point you and others have made:  rulers can only rule for the long run if they are perceived as legitimate (assuming of course the population isn't already crippled but that's another story).
Therefore, we need to spread the word about free market economics in order to help correct so much of the garbage and dogmatic bullshit about economics out there to help undermine the legitimacy of rulers.
Or something or other. :P

EDIT:  Just for the heck of it, I'm going to ask him that and see what he says back.
He's a pretty arrogant and rude guy, but assuming his response has any substance (which I hope it does), I want to see what it is.
I'll post the reply in this thread.

EDIT 2:  Granted, I didn't watch the video, but I have a sneaking suspicion there is a conflation of Anomie = Anarchy.
Maybe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2010, 09:03:45 PM
Regarding the video.
0:30 - OK, the definition used is the original definition of anarchy.  This could be problematic simply because of how vague it is.
What exactly is a "ruler"?  Am I the ruler of my property because I have the right to use it in ways that people who don't own it have (remembering that rights and responsibilities thing) giving rise to Anarcho-Communism for example?
E.G.: the head of a house-hold?
Or a business owner?
While the definition is a nice start, I simply don't like how vague it is.
I prefer the definition more akin to anti-statism on my profile:

"state (n.): A geopolitical monopoly on the 'legitimate' initiation of force, insofar as the use of first-strike force would be considered illegitimate if used via people who aren't acting as agents of the state; an extortion racket; a legitimized mafia"

0:32 through 1:36 - OK, more vagueness.  First off, I personally (and other anti-statists) don't mind the idea of leaders, even "dictators", "kings" etc, so long as they are voluntary (e.g. don't use the initiation of force for funds).
There is nothing wrong with leaders, so long as they are voluntary is the point here.

1:36 through 2:49 -Well, that's a nice example, but anti-statism, in addition to being a free market in all none-force services (e.g. medicine, education, goods, etc) would also be a free market in societal varieties as well.
Anarchy is emergent.  So you could have any number of different possibilities with arrangements, not just the ones shown there.
I know he shows it as an example, but this point really needs to be noted.  Anarchy/Anti-statism is a negative state.

2:50 until the last few seconds - His point is somewhat contradicting though.  'C' wants "free stuff" so they...buy weapons and risk their lives voluntarily to try and secure said "free" goods?
Also, there CAN be police, courts, military, etc in a stateless society.  There would just be competition among them (e.g. by service payments, or whatever other voluntary payment method people come up with).
What's more, I recall a video by ConfederalSocialist.  He noted that Iraq war is taking more than Iraq's entire GDP.  Remembering that war is expensive (especially if NOT done in pure self defense-just look at our own country), and the fact that because there would be very limited wealth creation (as resources go from the creation of wealth to the destruction of wealth) if any at all, it would be very hard, if not impossible for 'C' to maintain that offensive war for any extended period.
Unless of course they form a state, but then, they'd have to deal with the rest of the "country", and because they would have been more free, other things equal, they'd have more wealth to spend of defense.
I think you see where this is going.

4:27 through 4:33 - But notice how he never says WHY he thinks it is Utopian.
He merely states his opinion that it is.
Other Anti-statists such as Stefbot and opheliaic have rebutted this.  As such, I will not address this assertion.

So my grade will probably have to be a B-, or a C+.
It was above "average" in that he noted that Anarchy does not imply chaos, anomie, etc, but the vagueness, lack of economic considerations, and lack of emphasis on emergent voluntaryism, really cost him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 23, 2010, 07:56:09 PM
Sick of Nightmare's gov worshipping tirades, I decided to throw some back at him.

When his PM to me included this gem...

"And quite frankly, it's more imoral to make people pay thousends up front to get injuries treated."

I decided to do a quick calculation...

QuoteI found this quote of particular interest and decided to get out the calculator.

According to CBC news report, Canada's healthcare budget for 2005 was 41 billion dollars.
Canada's population is 33.3 million.  Divide and the total is 1231$ per year approximately.  (Canada's healthcare budget actually increases every year so I'm in fact being generous with these numbers)

This means, that every man, woman and child in Canada is taxed 1231$ per year to pay for healthcare.  So, even if everyone in Canada got sick or injured once every five years, that means we would be charged 6000$ per treatment...

In truth, people on average get sick or injured significantly less than that so this number is actually much higher.

So....what was that you were saying about charging people thousands for treatment being immoral?  Hmm?

I hope I did this right...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 23, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 23, 2010, 07:56:09 PM
Sick of Nightmare's gov worshipping tirades, I decided to throw some back at him.

When his PM to me included this gem...

"And quite frankly, it's more imoral to make people pay thousends up front to get injuries treated."

I decided to do a quick calculation...

I hope I did this right...

I thought you did pretty good.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
"Religion is JUST a theory, people! A worthless one if you'd ask me."--allianceofdemons on youtube
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2010, 08:37:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 21, 2010, 08:17:24 PMIsn't his point #2 exactly what communists say?

Alright, I said I'd ask him exactly what you said and here's the reply I got:

"Never heard a communist say anything like that at all. Matter fact most of them try to say anarchism will never have to worry about anything because everyone 'will produce enough shit' or something. Yeah like disputes would never arise in a free society. You should read some Ludwig von Mises, about how its impossible for a minority to rule a majority for long unless the minority starts to become more popular etc, you think if the small group of anarchists we had now destroyed the government the bulk of humanity wouldn't just try to get a state back?"

I would personally like to hear what you think of his response.
As for me, it's the last clause that caught my attention.
Well of COURSE if we use force ("destroy") to overthrow the state, people would hate us for it, would see us as violent aggressors and would probably put us in gulags for killing so many people!
That would of course, make people associate anarchy and anti-statism with violence and of course further increase the state's legitimacy: the LAST thing we need to do.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 24, 2010, 08:59:28 PM
I call BS. He's NEVER heard a communist say this?

"Let's say we smashed capitalism tomorrow, without first converting humanity to be communistic, they would still be capitalists, disorder would take place, they would blame communists, say that capitalism is right, and politicians would rise to meet that demand and would have much popular support. The way the video words it makes it sound like they are saying communism is unpractical now, and doesn't explain at all by what they mean."

That's EXACTLY what they say. What they ALL say. He CAN'T have had any dealings with communists if he hasn't heard that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2010, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 24, 2010, 08:59:28 PM
I call BS. He's NEVER heard a communist say this?

"Let's say we smashed capitalism tomorrow, without first converting humanity to be communistic, they would still be capitalists, disorder would take place, they would blame communists, say that capitalism is right, and politicians would rise to meet that demand and would have much popular support. The way the video words it makes it sound like they are saying communism is unpractical now, and doesn't explain at all by what they mean."

That's EXACTLY what they say. What they ALL say. He CAN'T have had any dealings with communists if he hasn't heard that.
Indeed.

Out of curiosity, do you think my assessment of the last point of his reply is accurate?
I honestly don't imagine the state being done away with unless it dies via the vast debts it has accumulated and finally undergoing a super hyper-inflationary collapse coupled by the intellectual death that Stefan Molyneux has pointed out.
Maybe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2010, 10:06:37 PM
"So we are to trust individuals and the free-market or 'freedom' to prevent pockets of power from developing that can be exploited because a self interested people will stay informed.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree since you are liberal (as in free-market) and i'm more of realist."

"You trust a small monopoly group with armies and nukes and the power to counterfeit currency and you call yourself a realist?"--Stefan Molyneux, responding to the above.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 21, 2010, 08:17:24 PM
Isn't his point #2 exactly what communists say?
Aaaaand...at the risk of getting flamed, that wouldn't make it false.
I mean, if that's what you're getting at.

As for how to change over to anarchy...
I dunno.
How did people change from monarchies to republics?
(Seriously. ^^; )

*EDIT*  Although it just occured to me that, because private property is the naturally arising relationship between human beings and material things (Austrian School) as opposed to communal sharing forced or otherwise (socialism), that that would partially invalid his point.

"I am so smart! s-m-r-t.  I mean, s-m-a-r-t!"--Homer Simpson.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 25, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
Oh, it's not false, I just think it might be about as realistic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2010, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 25, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
Oh, it's not false, I just think it might be about as realistic.

What might be as realistic?
Him and others toppling the US Government?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 25, 2010, 04:57:28 PM
Oh yeah. Just wait till you see the ruskies mind controled giant squids sinking your warships off the coast of florida.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 25, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 25, 2010, 04:40:50 PM
What might be as realistic?
Him and others toppling the US Government?

No, getting every single person on the planet to agree with a particular philosophy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 25, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
No, getting every single person on the planet to agree with a particular philosophy.
Very true.

Also, to make it so this thread doesn't stray to far off topic:

"Communism is a mistress that you later find out was a mister.  And no amount of showering can wash the shame away."--The Cloak
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on May 25, 2010, 09:45:24 PM
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"Kyle, this is the way the world works. If you want to find some quality friends, you gotta wade through all the dicks first."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 26, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 25, 2010, 05:35:05 PM

"Communism is a mistress that you later find out was a mister.  And no amount of showering can wash the shame away."--The Cloak

Unless that sort of thing turn you on... Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2010, 11:57:40 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "A society that chooses between capitalism and socialism does not choose between two social systems; it chooses between social cooperation and the disintegration of society. Socialism is not an alternative to capitalism; it is an alternative to any system under which men can live as human beings." - Human Action
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on May 26, 2010, 11:59:54 AM
"The Borg continue to live up to Q's remark about them, that they are a threat unlike any the federation has ever faced. They're coming not to conquer, but to consume. They cannot be negotiated with, and they cannot be stopped. They not only enslave, but take your very soul and turn you against any and all you hold dear. But perhaps the most infuriating part of all that, is that they actually think they're doing you a favor. They are a personification of that terrifying adage; 'We're from the government, and we're here to help you.'"

sfdebris in this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2010, 01:57:31 PM
"When something becomes illegal, consumer demand does not vanish."--Danny G. LeRoy, mises.org/daily/4429
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
"Immigration is only a problem in the context of a state. Without taxes, nobody would care where each of the 300 million people living in your geographical area were born.

At most, the most bigoted ones would care about where their neighbors were born."--zuiprax, on [yt]XSHSN9NEv88[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on May 28, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
"Here's the first rule of bullshit: If somebody says 'There ought to be a law...', there probably oughtn't."
--Penn Jillette, from the Endangered Species episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2010, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: valvatica on May 28, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
"Here's the first rule of bullshit: If somebody says 'There ought to be a law...', there probably oughtn't."
--Penn Jillette, from the Endangered Species episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
Pure win. :D

Ludwig von Mises: "It is the typical policy of Après nous le déluge. Lord Keynes, the champion of this policy, says: In the long run we are all dead. But unfortunately nearly all of us outlive the short run. We are destined to spend decades paying for the easy money orgy of a few years." - Omnipotent Government

Ludwig von Mises: "There is no kind of freedom and liberty other than the kind which the market economy brings about. In a totalitarian hegemonic society the only freedom that is left to the individual, because it cannot be denied to him, is the freedom to commit suicide." - Human Action
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 29, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
"it's not that hard for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. you'd just need a really sharp blender and a really small hose."--dsaerno
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 29, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 09, 2010, 03:07:01 AM"The definition of freedom is not complicated.  Freedom means that which the government does not control.  You are free when the government cannot steal your income, when it cannot tell you what to say or with whom you may or may not associate.  You are free when the government cannot take your kids and send them to far-flung wars to kill and be killed.  You are free when you control your life, your property, your church, your business, and your future.  You are free when the government cannot inflate away your savings, tax away your profits, lay waste to your dividends by regimenting corporate life, or controlling how much of what you buy and sell and from where." - Lew Rockwell

In retrospect, this might also be part fail quote as well.
Freedom is absence of the initiation of force.
Are you free as a thief robs you and/or threatens your life?
I would hope not.
While the state is easily one of the biggest causes of not being free, it is certainly not the only one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2010, 10:49:55 AM
"If you're going to point out failures of the free market, make sure the failures are actually caused BY the free market, and not by intervention of the sort you yourself are advocating."--Me, inspired from shanedk

"If you're going to point out why evolution can't happen, make sure these flaws are actually something the scientists believe, not your own strawman."--Me, inpired from TheriminTrees
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2010, 03:52:58 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Capital is not a free gift of God or of nature. It is the outcome of a provident restriction of consumption on the part of man. It is created and increased by saving and maintained by the abstention from dissaving." - The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality

"Government has no power to eliminate scarcity."--Gary Galles (http://mises.org/daily/3752)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 03, 2010, 10:19:49 AM
This whole speech is a fav quote:

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Part 2:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 04, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
"Blaming the free market for recessions is like blaming gravity for plane crashes." --Anyone know who said this? I've heard it for many years, but never knew where it originated from.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2010, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 04, 2010, 04:57:26 PM"Blaming the free market for recessions is like blaming gravity for plane crashes." --Anyone know who said this? I've heard it for many years, but never knew where it originated from.

I have no idea.
But wasn't it, "Blaming greed for recessions is like blaming gravity for plane crashes."?
Your quote didn't give any google results (with the quotes), but mine gave two.  Of course, it was just a newspaper comment or two with no credit given to who first said it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 04, 2010, 05:53:06 PM
I imagine there are tons of iterations. I can't remember what form I first heard it, it was so long ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2010, 06:32:27 PM
To answer your question, no, I don't know where it first came from. :(

"I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendies and a bra
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa"--The best part of that Monty Python "Lumberjack" song.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 04, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 04, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
"Blaming the free market for recessions is like blaming gravity for plane crashes." --Anyone know who said this? I've heard it for many years, but never knew where it originated from.

I first heard it from Stefan Molyneux but I believe he was quoting someone else.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 05, 2010, 06:57:33 PM
Epic Fav Quote:
(http://img.moronail.net/img/2/0/1020.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AHPMB on June 06, 2010, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 04, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
"Blaming the free market for recessions is like blaming gravity for plane crashes." --Anyone know who said this? I've heard it for many years, but never knew where it originated from.

I've heard that quote used in hundreds of different forms defending everything from the free market, to self interest, to socialism.  I think the original use came from Thomas Sowell when he was discussing people blaming greed as a cause of recession, though I don't know which article.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2010, 12:18:06 PM
"'Circumcision' is this nice-sounding, sterile, harmless word, and 'mutilation' has all these negative connotations. In both cases, I think we should call it what it is: amputation. In males, you're amputating the foreskin, and in females the clitoris and possibly the labia minora. It's AMPUTATION. And it should NEVER be done without a damn good reason."--Shane Killian in this video's highest rated comments section. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAlEcB4KNDo)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on June 07, 2010, 02:54:04 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2010, 07:10:26 PM
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."--attributed to Jack Handey
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2010, 11:19:01 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 11, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
A friend showed me this quote which is from the video game Ceasar 4.
"This house needs religion to evolve."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 11, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on June 11, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
A friend showed me this quote which is from the video game Ceasar 4.
"This house needs religion to evolve."

There should be a "FACEPALM!" thread for quotes like that...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2010, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 11, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
There should be a "FACEPALM!" thread for quotes like that...
Why do you think I started that "fail quotes" thread? :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
My apologies if I've already posted this, but this was just too good to NOT put into the light.
It's a bit long, so I will link to it instead.
Shane, this one's for you:
What you must believe to be a Democrat/Republican by Darian Worden (http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Militant-Mike1/journal/6588951328268915063/What-you-must-believe-to-be-a-Democrat-Republican)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2010, 04:47:21 PM
Lord T Hawkeye, I know that you like Stefan Molyneux's work.
So here's a little piece I'm sure you'll love.
I don't know if you've read it or not, but I've read it twice, and think he hit the nail on the head.
The Gun in the Room by Stefan Molyneux (http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Militant-Mike1/journal/8343391846816144145/The-Gun-in-the-Room)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Another one from Mike's journals (last one for now, I promise!):
As it says--DON'T READ AHEAD UNTIL YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE!
Who Would You Vote For? by Mike (http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Militant-Mike1/journal/8221555972727197836/Who-would-you-vote-for-)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on June 12, 2010, 07:36:13 PM
I don't consider this a favorite quote, just funny considering when it was written (1989, in the second edition). I recently finished The Selfish Gene and found this endnote on computer viruses:

QuoteWhat is less easy is to know how to combat them. Unfortunately some very expert programmers have had to waste their valuable time writing virus-detector programs, immunization programs and so on (the analogy with medical vaccination, by the way, is astonishingly close, even down to the injection of a 'weakened strain' of the virus). The danger is that an arms race will develop, with each advance in virus-prevention being matched by counter-advances in new virus programs. So far, most anti-virus programs are written by altruists and supplied free of charge as a service. But I foresee the growth of a whole new profession—splitting into lucrative specialisms just like any other profession—of 'software doctors', on call with black bags full of diagnostic and curative floppy discs. I use the name 'doctors', but real doctors are solving natural problems that are not deliberately engineered by human malice. My software doctors, on the other hand, will be, like lawyers, solving man-made problems that should never have existed in the first place. In so far as virus-makers have any discernible motive, they presumably feel vaguely anarchistic. I appeal to them: do you really want to pave the way for a new fat-cat profession? If not, stop playing at silly memes, and put your modest programming talents to better use.

What's funny, is that it's exactly how he predicted it, but worse. It's not only the constant arms race between virus/anti-virus, but false positives: anti-virus programs (which are themselves viruses) which infect your computer and subsequently offer to remove the virus for a price! I can't tell you how common that shit is getting and how desperate it's making people to pay to make it go away, only to have it come back. I literally chuckled when I read the "software doctors" part.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 14, 2010, 12:55:05 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/southern_half.png)

And the mouse over text: "Also, if you read his speech at Rice, all his arguments for going to the moon work equally well as arguments for blowing up the moon, sending cloned dinosaurs into space, or constructing a towering penis-shaped obelisk on Mars."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 14, 2010, 04:57:02 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 14, 2010, 12:55:05 AM
, or constructing a towering penis-shaped obelisk on Mars."

Well, he wasn't JFK for nothing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2010, 02:59:42 PM
"If you vote, you can't complain."--Dale Everett
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on June 15, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 15, 2010, 02:59:42 PM
"If you vote, you can't complain."--Dale Everett

Isn't that supposed to be "If you don't vote..."? Unless there's some irony I'm not seeing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2010, 06:58:34 PM
Quote from: valvatica on June 15, 2010, 06:28:50 PMIsn't that supposed to be "If you don't vote..."? Unless there's some irony I'm not seeing.

He switched it, and for good reason:  http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/10/14/if-you-vote-you-cant-complain/
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/uploads/anti_vote_brochure_vers2.pdf

The short version on the second link:

"If You Vote,
You Can't Complain


I'm sure you've heard the expression
the other way around, but does it
make sense? You knew the rules of
the game before you played. If you
buy the story at face value, then you
believe in the rules of the game. If
you didn't get what you wanted then
at least in theory you lost fair and
square. So why are you complaining?

The expression seems to be based on
the notion that if you don't like the
way things are, you should do
something to change things. Of course
the democratic process is presented as
the one and only “something” you can
do. It's not. Additionally, what if the
thing you take issue with is the
process itself? Imposing one-size-fits-all
solutions based on who can amass
the biggest gang is not the only, and
certainly not the best, way for society
to address problems. Some of us don't
buy into the rules of this dangerous
game, so we choose not to play and
we encourage others not to as well."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 15, 2010, 07:07:40 PM
George Carlin said pretty much the same thing, only funnier:

"I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote--who did not even leave the house on Election Day--am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
I prefer Dale's explanation over Carlin's because Carlin's would technically only apply if you voted for the winning candidate.
Dale's applies regardless of who you vote for.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2010, 07:02:23 PM
In response to the wage slavery idea of "WORK OR STARVE!!":

Quote from: AshillaBeigeBecause the situation is BREATHE OR DIE, we are slaves to our lungs.
Lets overthrow our lungs.
on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN5LDFbXYaY)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2010, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: valvatica on May 28, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
"Here's the first rule of bullshit: If somebody says 'There ought to be a law...', there probably oughtn't."
--Penn Jillette, from the Endangered Species episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
"The second rule of bullshit and the first rule of skepticism: There are no sacred cows."--Me, saying what you know was on his mind during the making of every single episode of that show. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on June 17, 2010, 02:59:40 AM
Well put. I have another one that's a keeper:

""Nobody can convince me?" Bells should go off in your head when you hear those words. That's his* bullshit idea of skepticism. A real skeptic demands to be convinced, with evidence." (Emphasis mine) *Quoting some conspiracy nut in the episode in question
--Penn Jillette, from the Conspiracy Theories episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

It never made more sense to me why people have such contempt for conspiracy theorists. It's not that their beliefs are ludicrous necessarily, it's that they don't want to entertain the possibility of being wrong, ever. They state things such as "you can say anything you want to me, but nothing will change my mind." There's nowhere to go from that. There's no discussion to be had. Their wanting the conspiracy to be true means more to them than ascertaining that which is actually true. So, no different than creationists, really.

Also, thanks for the corroboration of the voting quotes. I never thought of it that way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 17, 2010, 06:34:53 AM
Quote from: valvatica on June 17, 2010, 02:59:40 AM
Well put. I have another one that's a keeper:

""Nobody can convince me?" Bells should go off in your head when you hear those words. That's his* bullshit idea of skepticism. A real skeptic demands to be convinced, with evidence." (Emphasis mine) *Quoting some conspiracy nut in the episode in question
--Penn Jillette, from the Conspiracy Theories episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

Oh I remember that guy, he wore a black berret, glasses and I think he even had the goatee.
Either he was unbearably cliched or a poe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 17, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
"A traffic jam is a collision between free enterprise and socialism. Free enterprise produces automobiles faster than socialism can build roads and road capacity." --Andrew Galambos
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 18, 2010, 12:59:46 AM
Werent roads built so people buy more cars?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 18, 2010, 07:15:34 AM
I don't know of a single city in the US where the number of lane miles has kept up with the amount of miles driven. Around here, it seems like they're always 20 years behind.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 18, 2010, 08:15:38 AM
And that is bad?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 18, 2010, 08:34:52 AM
Yes, because it means there's greater traffic, more traffic jams, people taking longer to get to where they want or need to go, and lots more pollution as a result.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 19, 2010, 06:03:18 AM
What you're saying is that there be more cars with or without roads to be jamed by them?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2010, 07:14:40 AM
It's based on miles driven; not only how many cars there are, but how much people drive them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 19, 2010, 10:03:22 AM
How many cars can one person drive at a time anyway?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
What does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 19, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
What it has to do with it?
Oh, let me count you the ways...

One,
two...
uh, threeee
...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
OK, I think your bogometer's going up now.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2010, 12:54:48 PM
"Dey tuk er jerbs!"--South Park
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 19, 2010, 03:43:18 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 19, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
OK, I think your bogometer's going up now.
As it damn well should.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2010, 04:16:13 PM
"Take your hair and stick it in me!"--Na'vi woman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2010, 07:24:03 PM
Okay, once again trying to lift this thread out of a puerile quagmire:

"We do not choose political freedom because it promises us this or that. We choose it because it makes possible the only dignified form of human coexistence, the only form in which we can be fully responsible for ourselves. Whether we realize its possibilities depends on all kinds of things--and above all on ourselves." --Karl Popper, "On Freedom" (1958)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2010, 09:53:28 PM
"A jealous lover of human liberty, deeming it the absolute condition of all that we admire and respect in humanity, I reverse the phrase of Voltaire, and say that, if God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him."--Mikhail Bakunin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2010, 06:48:29 PM
"There is no religion of philanthropy. All dominant religions are fueled by money."--allianceofdemons
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2010, 11:38:31 PM
First what would probably qualify as a fail quote for the sake of context:

lynchmobb2000: "Grow up, not everyone who wants socialized medicine is a statist. Although I am a proponent of universal healthcare, I oppose a thousand things the govt does. And taxation is not theft, your presence in the country says you consent to pay your taxes when they are due.
Some problems are so big only govt can solve them. Universal healthcare is one of them."

The response made of win, with the most epic part bolded, by me, for emphasis:
QuoteSome problems are so big that only the gods on earth can solve them? Do you not see the problem with this idea?
Taxation is extortion. If the mob did the same thing, they would go to prison, so living in a arbitrary area does not give others the right to steal from you.
And yes, you are a statist if you think that the state is the only way to solve something.
I also resent this "grow up" bullshit. You are never to old to be outraged by tyranny.
--FearsEdge, on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McRfwSHzRz0)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 22, 2010, 03:51:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 28, 2010, 05:34:01 PM
"The only thing the demopublicans want more than to know what you're up to is
for you not to know what they're up to." --Tom Bailey (North Carolina Libertarian activist)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2010, 01:08:30 AM
"Socialized Medicine:  Making medical costs vanish using the power of wishful thinking."--Lord T Hawkeye, in an AIM session.
Idea by him, refining and proofreading by me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2010, 10:02:56 PM
"Fucking' markets, how do they work?
And I don't want to talk to a free market anarchist.
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and gettin' me pissed!"--Me, being a smart-ass.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 01, 2010, 12:52:43 AM
"War, debt and inflation are good for the economy."--fail quote inspired by Lord T Hawkeye's 'Debt is good' acquaintance.

"Like self-cannibalism [eating yourself] is good for your health."--The proper response to the above
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 01, 2010, 02:00:17 AM
Well... It's sort of a last resort.
I once had a game where you could develop a spaceship tech that cannibalized part of the hull to convert it to energy for your ship weapons.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 01, 2010, 04:29:56 PM
Anyone know who said this?

"Even the best laws can't keep bad men from doing evil things."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 01, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
No idea.

How about this one:
"Bureaucracy: the practice of making organizations as inefficient as possible."?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 01, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
Burt Reynolds?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 02, 2010, 01:37:10 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 01, 2010, 04:29:56 PM
Anyone know who said this?

"Even the best laws can't keep bad men from doing evil things."

Penn Jillette said something like this.

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by making insane laws...that's insane."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 02, 2010, 01:58:56 AM
"Bureaucracy grows to fit the needs and demands of a growing bureaucracy."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 02, 2010, 06:09:57 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 02, 2010, 01:58:56 AM
"Bureaucracy grows to fit the needs and demands of a growing bureaucracy."

Actually, it's: "Bureaucracy is expanding to fit the needs of an expanding bureaucracy." --Ashleigh Brilliant
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 02, 2010, 07:35:19 AM
So I got the wording wrong. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 02, 2010, 01:03:47 PM
If it makes you feel any better, I liked your wording more than the original's.

"War, and preparation for war, is a racket; serving the special interests." --Ron Paul
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 02, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
"in inflation everything gets more valuable except money"--Princeton's Online dictionary.
Put here because it made me laugh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on July 03, 2010, 02:55:38 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 02, 2010, 07:35:19 AM
So I got the wording wrong. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

...


Don't remember how you could put YouTube videos in here, so I can't really give you the obvious follow up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2010, 03:08:00 AM
Quote from: VectorM on July 03, 2010, 02:55:38 AM
Don't remember how you could put YouTube videos in here, so I can't really give you the obvious follow up.

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"If you want something done right, do it yourself."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 03, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
"Is it just me, or does Stefan Molyneux's voice sound like it's computer generated?"--Shane Killian Comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAiYlaGxyV0)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 05, 2010, 02:30:12 AM
"It would seem that the correct prejudice to hold when reading any science story in any non scientific journal is to assume it's utter bullshit."--morganbath, highest rated comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmECHrOcFlc)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 10, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
Heh, they seem to be having fun with that cartoon.

http://blog.mises.org/13218/the-24-types-of-authoritarians/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: valvatica on July 10, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
My favorites are Petty Tyrant, The Deluded, and The White Sheep. Every time I walk down the sidewalk to the transit center, I can't help but laugh when I pass the tall "No Littering, $500 Fine" sign planted in the grass, with trash scattered all around it. I should take a picture and post it here, now that I think about it :-)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2010, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 10, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
Heh, they seem to be having fun with that cartoon.

http://blog.mises.org/13218/the-24-types-of-authoritarians/
DUDE!
Thanks for sharing! :D
That was pure win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 17, 2010, 10:09:17 AM
"No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free." --G'Kar, Babylon 5: "The Long, Twilight Struggle"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 17, 2010, 10:40:04 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 18, 2010, 08:27:54 AM
Another great G'Kar quote:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on July 19, 2010, 05:09:01 AM
Thank you very much Shane, now I will watch every single episode of that show  :)

Now some from me:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 19, 2010, 06:42:07 AM
Quote from: VectorM on July 19, 2010, 05:09:01 AM
Thank you very much Shane, now I will watch every single episode of that show  :)

Now some from me:
"The video you have requested is not available." Please double-check.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on July 19, 2010, 09:42:01 AM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Edit: fixed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 20, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
"We could not maintain the Gold Standard, nor the Silver Standard. We could not maintain the Copper Standard. And now, we cannot even maintain the Zinc Standard." --Ron Paul, Financial Services Committee Hearing, 20 July 2010, as shown in this video:

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(Also, big LOL starting at about 7:04.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2010, 06:05:28 PM
Ludwig von Mises:  "What elevates man above all other animals is the cognition that peaceful cooperation under the principle of the division of labor is a better method to preserve life and to remove felt uneasiness than indulging in pitiless biological competition for a share in the scarce means of subsistence provided by nature. Guided by this insight, man alone among all living beings consciously aims at substituting social cooperation for what philosophers have called the state of nature or bellum omnium contra omnes or the law of the jungle." - The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 25, 2010, 08:41:23 PM
Another great B5 quote:

"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu, Einstein, Morobuto, Buddy Holly, Aristophanes...and all of this...all of this was for nothing...unless we go to the stars." --Jeffrey Sinclair, Babylon 5: "Infection"

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 03, 2010, 11:49:35 AM
"What worries me more than the people who are trying to take over are the people who already have." Richard Coughlan, in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvOzWiwHMU)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 03, 2010, 09:00:35 PM
This entire video is a win:

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As I stated in the comment section:
About 16 minutes in, about "pirate publishers", it reminds me of how, before the government got involved in health care, many doctors (or at least the AMA) complained that health care was too cheap, too available to the point where the medical industry would soon be bankrupt.

I would bet that the publishers making similar claims are also full of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2010, 03:16:44 AM
"Can anything be more ridiculous than that a man has a right to kill me because he lives on the other side of the water, and because his ruler has quarrel with mine, although I have none with him?" -- Blaise Pascal

"Whoever wishes peace among peoples must fight statism." -- Ludwig von Mises

"The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State." -- Murray N. Rothbard

"The worship of the state is the worship of force. There is no more dangerous menace to civilization than a government of incompetent, corrupt, or vile men. The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by governments." -- Ludwig von Mises

"Socialism is not the pioneer of a better and finer world, but the spoiler of what thousands of years of civilization have created. It does not build; it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created." -- Ludwig von Mises

"Putting aside all the fancy words and academic doubletalk, the basic reason for having a military is to do two jobs — to kill people and to destroy." -- Gen. Thomas S. Power
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AHPMB on August 04, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
I try to read Asamov at least once a year.  My favorite quote of his is still: "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 04, 2010, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: AHPMB on August 04, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
I try to read Asamov at least once a year.  My favorite quote of his is still: "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."

Not familiar with him. I do read Asimov, though. :P

"Dalton's records, carefully preserved for a century, were destroyed during the World War II bombing of Manchester. It is not only the living who are killed in war."

"Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right."

"Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is."

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2010, 08:41:09 PM
I showed Lord T Hawkeye this video (also a Fav Quote in and of itself):

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To which he responded with:  "I just stick with the simple one:  70% of women jack off, 90% of men do and the rest lie about it."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 05, 2010, 02:05:55 AM
Oh, apparently Coughland got banned over that video when it was flagged down for "inappropriate" content.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2010, 06:48:36 AM
And there wasn't anything inappropriate in it at all; just a discussion of the statistics and what they mean.

I wonder who complained?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 05, 2010, 09:16:06 AM
I think we would get a shorter list if we asked who would'nt do that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2010, 02:41:23 PM
Richard on the takedown:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 05, 2010, 03:44:12 PM
Well all I can say about this is best summed up in

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o196/Gumba_Masta/HatersGonnaHate.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 07, 2010, 06:29:20 PM
I think this whole letter here is for the win.

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2010/08/a-letter-dated-august-7.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2010, 08:39:05 PM
"People collect Jack Chick tracts the same way people collect pornography—and for the same reason." - Ivan Stang
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 11, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
(http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/12321/Cartoon-Canada-Threat_jpg_630x1200_upscale_q85.jpg)

I love The Onion's editorial cartoons.
I still remember the days when we in the states would mock Canadian Fiat $'s for being worth less than ours.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
"Fuck you division of labour! We don't need your bullshit!"--Morrakiu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyNyVVWlbo)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 14, 2010, 02:27:04 AM
"Collectivism is slavery."--F. A. Hayek
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 14, 2010, 02:42:52 AM
"@Wollff85 Do you apply this universally? When a black man robs a store, is it the responsibility of all black men to stand up and denounce that black man? Is it the responsibility of all men to take responsibility for the man who beats his wife? Must all Japanese denounce the Rape of Nanking merely by virtue of the land they were born on?

Why should individuals care about what random other individuals they have never met do? No one is responsible to defend or denounce anyone else."--Stargazer5781

Source:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEouJvowQ-A
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
Well, since we've been discussing Penn & Teller in another thread, I found this from Lord T Hawkeye, that made me smile:

"We should be skeptical of government but we shouldn't just make shit up."--Penn Jillette, on the 9/11 conspiracy theories(?)

And speaking of 9/11, I found out that JBC (the dude hawking the "Modern Physics is irrational" bullshit on this thread (https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=500.0)) is a 9/11 truther.
Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2010, 02:18:34 AM
This entire video is made of win, from start to finish.

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A sample: "Marxism and socialism is based on the religion of central planning in the economy; just like theism is based on the belief of central planning in the universe.  Capitalism is the atheism of an economy."--The last words of the video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 20, 2010, 12:46:14 PM
"Those individuals who committed this heinous act of violence did not stop off first and ask American Muslims for permission before flying these planes into buildings. Neither did they consider the consequences of how this act would hurt American Muslims in our society. On the contrary, one of the most shameful things I have found about the political manipulation of September 11 is the refusal to even mention the Muslims who were murdered that day as well." --Mike Beitler, Libertarian candidate for US Senate (NC)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 20, 2010, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2010, 12:46:14 PM
"Those individuals who committed this heinous act of violence did not stop off first and ask American Muslims for permission before flying these planes into buildings. Neither did they consider the consequences of how this act would hurt American Muslims in our society. On the contrary, one of the most shameful things I have found about the political manipulation of September 11 is the refusal to even mention the Muslims who were murdered that day as well." --Mike Beitler, Libertarian candidate for US Senate (NC)
*Applause* Very well put.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 22, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
What the hell?!
What is it with all these people recording videos while sitting in a car, driving around?
This one even holds a fucking mike!
Is this some sort of "Jerkass - Youtube Edition"?
Don't they know they endanger lives with this kind of behavior. Not just everyone else's but their own as well, mainly because I tend to shoot everyone I see doing that on sight.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 24, 2010, 09:05:33 PM
"See, I think Objectivists miss the point by trying to make it a system of ethics. The point of libertarianism is ONLY about what level of force is permissible in society."--Shanedk, comment to an Objectivist on his Free Market video

That's one of my bigger issues with Stefan Molyneux (he's a post Objectivist from what I can tell).
He takes it too far in the opposite direction of guys like Fringeelements (who's a moral nihilist).
I mean, don't get me wrong, moral arguments are good, and economic arguments are good, as are logical arguments.
I personally think a balance is needed.
I wasn't pushed out of full blown statism into anti-statism by any one (or two) of these alone.
And I would bet that I'm not the only one either.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 24, 2010, 10:52:02 PM
I don't see why people treat them as exclusive.  They're all tied together by logic and evidence.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 25, 2010, 12:29:42 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 24, 2010, 10:52:02 PM
I don't see why people treat them as exclusive.  They're all tied together by logic and evidence.
You noticed that too, huh?
Glad I'm not the only one. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 25, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
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Made.
Of.
Win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 29, 2010, 09:18:43 AM
Heh, not a bad analogy for something I made up on the spot at 6 AM

QuoteWraithkun 6:14 am
(6:14:07 AM):     I'm still not sure why I can't sue the gov't for breach of contract.
Lord T Hawkeye 6:14 am
(6:14:21 AM):     for the same reason you can't kill Shabranigdo with the dragon slave

Explanation: Shabranigdo is a demon lord from the anime Slayers.  Dragon slave is a powerful spell that draws it's power from the negative forces of the world, a power Shabranigdo has complete control over.  So like Lina Inverse herself explains "It's like coming up to someone and saying 'hey, could you help me kill you?'"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 30, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "If there were no regularity, nothing could be learned from experience." - The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 31, 2010, 08:43:17 PM
"Libertarian Socialism is the single biggest oxymoron in political science."--RaymondDundas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0fV1mbeyP0)

Well, with the possible exception of "State Capitalism".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 01, 2010, 12:36:39 AM
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This video is made of win.
I would bet that every word of it applies to 9/11 truthers as well.
So when JBC plays internet tough guy insisting I make videos about the stuff he believes that I think is bullshit, while I didn't respond, I suppose another good response would have been to just say what ThetaOmega did at the end of this video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on September 01, 2010, 06:50:20 AM
I see someone's channeling Yahtzee there.
Needs a bit work in the animations and some voice excersise but he should be on a good way, barring the usual pitfalls.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 03, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
"When all else fails, do the experiment."--My Physics Professor
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 10, 2010, 04:39:43 PM
"The evolutionary model says that 1+1=2, and yet there are proofs on YouTube that show how 1+1=0 using the evolutionary concept of the Sqrt(-1). I mean the truth of evolution proves how false it is. How can we even be sure that Sqrt(-1) = i ? Therefore, since 1+1=2=0, god created all the plants and animals and all of their disturbing genetic defects. And, yes, god created the genetic defects for a reason too. I mean, look at how bad he fucked up his math." --MultiPaulinator, on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym--wS7xUsk)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2010, 04:55:47 PM
Nice.
Reminds me of the people who use Epimenides Paradox/Dilemma to show that logic is false/flawed/human/whatever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2010, 11:45:59 PM
(Sing-Songey): Oh, guys, look what video has been reinstated:
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;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 16, 2010, 01:08:14 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 16, 2010, 10:06:57 PM
"@Leiwaena Eye for an eye is a throwback to our more primitive times and the more we can learn to control such urges, the better. When men do wrong, compensating the victims of such wrongs should be first priority and right now, it's not even an afterthought and I think that's very tragic.

The real one to be angry at is governments. They are the ones who mastermind all these attrocities. The soldiers who do them are just the poor slobs indoctrinated into it."--Lord T Hawkeye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bboqH5u6bo), in the comments, obviously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 17, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
Here's a tidbit that's more or less the basis of most, if not all governments these days, if not eternally:

"Money talks, bullshit walks."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 17, 2010, 03:34:12 PM
"It is even more astounding that the pencil was ever produced. No one sitting in a central office gave orders to these thousands of people. No military police enforced the orders that were not given. These people live in many lands, speak different languages, practice different religions, may even hate one another—yet none of these differences prevented them from cooperating to produce a pencil. How did it happen? Adam Smith gave us the answer two hundred years ago."--Milton Friedman, afterword of "I, Pencil"

Source:  http://fee.org/library/books/i-pencil-2/
It goes without saying that "I, Pencil" is also a huge win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 17, 2010, 05:49:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 22, 2010, 10:37:41 AM
"The Constitution has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."--Lysander Spooner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX1Tj9WaO4g)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 23, 2010, 12:10:47 AM
"THE STATE CAN YIFF IN HELL!!!!"--Apptendo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXctmqir8ms) in the comment section
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 23, 2010, 12:11:33 AM
This (http://www.shanekillian.com/blog/index.php?/archives/134-Opposing-more-speech-suppression-in-the-name-of-copyrights.html) is an epic win quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 29, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
A couple good ones from my namesake:

"A man is what he is, Bob, and there's no breaking the mold. I tried that and I've lost."

"A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that."

From Jack Schaefer's Novel "Shane," spoken by the titular character.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 29, 2010, 10:53:08 AM
One by my friend Wraith

Wraithkun 7:48 am
(7:48:21 AM):     Oy, spoony can't get legit acting jobs because the talent agencies say he doesn't have enough experience.
(7:48:49 AM):     woo, hollywood, you wonder why you're pissing away into obsolescence, it's because you set up a dynasty and you're full of shit.
Lord T Hawkeye 7:48 am
(7:48:56 AM):     indeed
(7:49:04 AM):     like to pretend the internet doesn't exist
(7:50:05 AM):     This is the REAL reason why they keep trying to censor the net.  It's not because piracy is killing them because it isn't
Lord T Hawkeye 7:50 am
(7:50:26 AM):     It's because the internet lets amateurs compete on an even level with the established and that pisses them off
Wraithkun 7:50 am
(7:50:39 AM):     People being able to make enjoyable content is killing them XD
Lord T Hawkeye 7:51 am
(7:51:06 AM):     yeah, someone making music in his basement is equal to the big name bands on the net
Wraithkun 7:51 am
(7:51:31 AM):     hollywood wishes that it were the 1900s again and they could charge people to watch a five-second video of a guy doing a backflip.
Wraithkun 7:52 am
(7:52:34 AM):     and the reviews say "Like magic, the picture-man moves!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 29, 2010, 08:06:25 PM
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Glad to hear more of the Libertarians and Anti-Statists talk about this. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 29, 2010, 09:07:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 29, 2010, 09:07:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 30, 2010, 10:20:14 PM
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Statists: Like zombies without an interest in brains.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 01, 2010, 06:47:02 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 30, 2010, 10:20:14 PM
Statists: Like zombies without an interest in brains.
It's certainly more intelligent than most conversations I have with statists...
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Post by: Travis Retriever on October 02, 2010, 02:27:59 AM
"I'm also glad that Shane showed me this:  http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=libertarian
Showing that, sorry, "libertarian" was NOT originally used to mean "anarcho socialist", despite what the idiots like Chomsky will tell you.
A search also reveals the term "tea party" where it mentions the ones "beginning in 2009" http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=libertarian
which they would call conservative to try to discredit the source.  Which is ironic because they never seem to provide any sources for the original use of the term themselves.
And because it's a red herring.  They were talking about the original meaning of the word, which is clearly unrelated to anarcho-socialism.
Just like the republicans, they like hijacking terms and movements.

Democrat vs Republican = Douche vs Turd"--Me, in AIM with Lord T Hawkeye, slightly revised.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on October 02, 2010, 02:29:20 AM
"After reading something on Cracked, something occured to me.
Determinism vs Free Will is a false dichotomy.
As demonstrated by Shane's point about quantum mechanics, one COULD still argue that that just means our brains aren't deterministic, but that doesn't prove we "choose" things via free will.
Which is true.
However:
1. No one advocating free will (that I know of) says that we aren't influenced by our environments or past experiences.
2. They're essentially trying to say: "use choice to choose between the freedom-to-choose and non-choice"
Granted, it sounded better when the thoughts first started flowing in a few days ago.
   
So worst case senario, even IF free will isn't proven, determinism is still falsified via quantum mechanics."--Me in the same IM with Lord T Hawkeye.

So question, how does having a probabilistic (quantum mechanical) brain give us free will ("the ability to choose" as it is often defined)?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 02, 2010, 06:24:47 PM
"We have a two-party system: the Silly Party and the Stupid Party." --P.J. O'Rourke

"The hard part is telling which one is which." --Me
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Post by: Travis Retriever on October 02, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
We also have the lemon party, but that's neither here nor there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 02, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Anyways, back on topic:

As people in science say, "If you can't explain what you're doing to an 8-year old, you're a fraud who doesn't know what he's doing."--can't remember who exactly
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on October 03, 2010, 01:44:46 PM
From a this thread right here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.236241-Poll-Should-he-still-be-punished

Quote
QuoteWINDOWCLEAN2:
He should be given a light punishment, Nothing to severe mind you. Perhaps just an hour or two of Council work or Psychiatric care perhaps.

Psychiatric care?! Are you actually suggesting you send a 13 year old boy going through puberty to a shrink because he looked at girls HIS age?! I guess we should now send teenagers under the age of 18 that had sex to a shrink as well because well fuck me, there's obviously something wrong with them since they disobeyed the law. They're pre-teens. They're going through puberty. Of course they're going to look at naked women. So because this one decided to look at naked girls HIS age he should be punished? By your logic, any 13 year old who thinks of other 13 year olds in a sexual manner is fucking mentally ill. That makes absolutely no sense.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 03, 2010, 02:38:04 PM
I looked at the thread.
Notice how:
1.  There is no discussion of restitution to any wronged party (hint: there were none; it was a victimless crime), only of punishment.
2.  People are just jabbing on about how, "Well, it's the law, and so he should be punished."  Epic fail.  So was helping the slaves in the USA during early 19th century, and helping the Jews in Germany escape during the holocaust.  Sorry, but the state is NOT the final arbiter of mortality anymore than "god" is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 03, 2010, 07:04:14 PM
I got a question for the nudity crusaders.

What if a young, female artist draws a self portrait of herself nude?  Are you going to try and stop her?  By force if needed?
If so, explain to me how you're still the good guy here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on October 04, 2010, 07:35:24 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 03, 2010, 07:04:14 PM
I got a question for the nudity crusaders.

What if a young, female artist draws a self portrait of herself nude?  Are you going to try and stop her?  By force if needed?
If so, explain to me how you're still the good guy here.

"It's DA LAWL, so she should be punished"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 04, 2010, 09:39:05 AM
By spanking the naughty, naughty girl?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 11, 2010, 06:58:09 AM
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." —Marcus Aurelius (predates Pascal's Wager by 1600 years).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 11, 2010, 11:01:05 AM
Basicaly the antipode?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 13, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 11, 2010, 06:58:09 AM"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." —Marcus Aurelius (predates Pascal's Wager by 1600 years).
Thereby pwning Pascal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 16, 2010, 09:49:21 AM
"Many leftists falsely believe that governments are somehow better than corporations, not realizing that there's a reason corporations have to enter government to get the guns and protectionism in the first place." --Michael Shanklin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 17, 2010, 02:42:40 PM
"This video leaves out what I think is by far the greatest cost of all: the souls and minds of the young.

Ever since the Prussian model was adopted, no significant progress has been made in the process of education. If anything, schools are worse now than they were a hundred years ago. A nation that could once absorb Locke can now barely read at all, and fully one third of all schoolchildren have to be kept drugged, so as not to constitute a physical danger to themselves or others."--PanzerDivisionBOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzvKyfV3JtE)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 17, 2010, 02:50:08 PM
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Finally, some people are waking up to Tf00t's behavior.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 17, 2010, 05:38:13 PM
The creepy part is when Coughland is forced into the role of being a voice of reason in a sea of madness.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 20, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
"But then again, Keynes said alot of things." -my macro teacher. (In a bit of a dismissive tone.)

It may not seem that funny right here, but in context, it was hilarious.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2010, 09:49:31 AM
http://xkcd.com/808/
And the mouse-over text.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
(http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/focus-mopatents.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
One of these things is not like the others; one of these things is (intellectually) dead:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4858534409_ed4aae5f18_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 20, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
"Everyone should debate with a post-keynesian at least once, but try to keep it limited to that. It's a very... 'different' perspective." (My macro teacher, trying to be PC)

(After a bit more prodding from other students.) "No, I don't go out and debate with post-keynesians. It's like debating with a conspiracy theorist."

Interesting bit: There were some post-keynesians who predicted the housing bubble as well as the Austrians. Strangely enough, they cited something called Credit Cycle Theory, emphasized by post-keynesians, as the reason for their belief that there was a housing bubble. Guess what the progenitor of Credit Cycle Theory was? It begins with an A and ends with a TBC. =P

And one difference was that they dropped the preceding expansion of credit as a contributing factor in favor of the animal spirits somehow causing a rise in irrational lending. Cuz, you know, saying 'just cuz' is such an appropriate explanation. Might as well claimed it was done by pixies.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 21, 2010, 01:20:58 AM
    "It is about .00001% of the human population that causes 99.99999% of the world's problems.  And that tiny percent, it's not the world jewish banking conspiracy, it's not the asylum seekers, it's not the secret homosexual conspiracy running hollywood, it's not even the scientologists.  It's the leaders.  What we need is an administration at most.  We don't need people to boss us about." - Alan Moore

Don't know the guy well but I like him already upon hearing that quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 21, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
"The Living-constitution preamble: We the Oligarchy of the US, in Order to form a more perfect central government, establish only criminal Justice, insure controlling Tranquility, provide for the common redistribution, promote social Welfare, and secure Liberty to the Oligarchy and their Posterity, do establish this erratic unpublished constitution for the US." --YouTube user Mike10four, on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7qF0t_2xms)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 21, 2010, 01:17:20 PM
Don't forget the part right after that: "As for the people, they are on the road to serfdom."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 21, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
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Damn it, TJ was this close ->||<- to directly stating that private property is a way to conserve and protect the environment.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 02, 2010, 11:56:15 AM
"Keynes is like the Chicago Cubs of Economics. In both cases, repeated failure has been rewarded with undying fanatical devotion." --Tim Slagle (in a Facebook comment)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 03, 2010, 11:01:28 AM
I was going to post this yesterday, but I figure now's as good a time as any other:

http://anarchyinyourhead.com/uploads/anti_vote_brochure_vers2.pdf
This is made of epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 03, 2010, 05:34:57 PM
"2 + 2 = a pink unicorn.

That's all they [statists] are arguing to begin with. 'The state' is a drop in replacement for god, as you have pointed out before. God can do anything, the state can do anything, laws of economics do not apply in the minds of statists. They will ride the titanic to the ocean floor."--Individualism101, highest rated comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF58InCvAAA)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 05, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
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Pretty good except for the area near the end when he starts talking about the politics of it; e.g. conflating corporations with business in general.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 05, 2010, 11:20:19 AM
Yeah, there seems to be a real cognitive dissonance with him of late.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
"You fool, don't you know Jesus was really Lucifer in disguise? It says so in this book I read from a long time ago that says it is 100% true, so it CAN'T be a lie. Jesus was really the devil, and he actually raped and pillaged his way through Israel. Then Optimus Prime, True King of the Jews, ate his head and tea-bagged his corpse. This event was recorded in this book by Fidel Castro's talking burro. If you don't believe it you're going to Richard Simmons' walk-in closet for all eternity."--338dmac on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym--wS7xUsk)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 09, 2010, 08:48:28 PM
From the fail quotes thread: http://whatinthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
Definitely a win, in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 09, 2010, 09:15:38 PM
"History is the lie commonly agreed upon."--Voltaire
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 10, 2010, 06:32:32 AM
"None are more helplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." --Goethe
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 10, 2010, 06:33:22 AM
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." --Gandhi
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on November 10, 2010, 08:22:13 AM
Was that quote from in between his racist rantings?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 10, 2010, 11:37:42 AM
@Gumba Masta: You got that from cracked.com didn't you? :P

Made of win:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on November 10, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
Actually it was Bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 10, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
A very underrated article from the Mises Institute:
The Fallacy of Intellectual Property by Daniel Krawisz (http://mises.org/daily/3631)

Two related (much shorter, and very awesome) articles by Dale Everett:
Guest Comic by The Muslim Agorist (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/07/16/guest-comic-by-the-muslim-anarchist/)
The Trouble With Selling Tribbles (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/10/07/the-trouble-with-selling-tribbles/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2010, 12:44:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2010, 10:35:48 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Freedom in society means that a man depends as much upon other people as other people depend on him." - Economic Policy

Ludwig von Mises: "Under capitalism, material success depends on the appreciation of a mans achievements on the part of the sovereign consumers. In this regard there is no difference between the services rendered by a manufacturer and those rendered by a producer, an actor or a playwright." - The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality, pg. 31
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 16, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
"It is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life. And I have read the Bible and Atlas Shrugged." --ERV (http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2008/04/premise-lawsuits-toddler-animations-and.html)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 17, 2010, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 16, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
"It is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life. And I have read the Bible and Atlas Shrugged." --ERV (http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2008/04/premise-lawsuits-toddler-animations-and.html)
Referring to the new version of Expelled?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 17, 2010, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 17, 2010, 01:29:37 PM
Referring to the new version of Expelled?

Referring to this court brief the Expelled producers made to show that it wasn't plagiarism to blatantly rip off someone else's work and pretend it's your own.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 17, 2010, 08:05:37 PM
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The State:  Because nothing says "We Care for you./We Love you." quite like a gun to someone else's head.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 17, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
"To those with a continued religious faith in the state, I say the authoritarian but also benevolent government you want is a paradox. It does not exist and cannot be created no matter how badly you desire it. Just as atheism is only a solution to futile mysticism, anarchy is only a solution to one problem, but one which is quite pervasive– the irrational belief that an organization which is inherently criminal can also be benevolent. Anarchy is not an answer in itself. It's simply a rejection of the false answer." - Dale Everett
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on November 18, 2010, 01:04:04 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 17, 2010, 08:05:37 PM

The State:  Because nothing says "We Care for you./We Love you." quite like a gun to someone else's head.
Milk?
Seriously... that is seriously fucked up. I mean what's next? Goverment banning food in general because you can choke on it if it's inpropperly chewed and you swallow to fast?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 18, 2010, 03:21:14 PM
More epic win by Stargazer5871:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 18, 2010, 07:13:12 PM
"Looking back, I had tendencies towards anarcho-capitalism even back in high school.  I resented being herded around day in and day out from start to finish and I still resent all those years lost today.  I was bullied too for the unforgivable crime of being different and I resented them for making it possible for it to happen.
Grab your freedom with both hands kids and don't let anyone get their filthy hands on it.  It is yours and yours alone."--Lord T Hawkeye in an AIM convo with me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 19, 2010, 08:07:59 PM
This was originally an off-hand snarky comment of mine, but thinking back on it I'm actually kind of proud of it:

"A liberal is a generous person. A libertarian is a generous person who understands the concept of opportunity costs." --Me, in the comments of this video (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=QVPu-jyWvQY)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on November 20, 2010, 02:03:47 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 20, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
Stargazer5781: "Statism is all well and good until you realize that people in the state are human too. If your claim is that people need to be ordered around and controlled, who will order around and control the people in the state? Statism necessitates the existence of gods and only made sense back when people thought the heads of state were gods. When you realize gods don't exist, all arguments for a state self-detonate.

P.S. Look up psychological projection on wikipedia."--One of the highest rated comments on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wEZwfw1Z1I)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 20, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "No proletarian contributed anything to the construction of antiliberal teachings. At the root of the genealogical tree of modern socialism we meet the name of the depraved scion of one of the most eminent aristocratic families of royal France." - Omnipotent Government

Ludwig von Mises: "New experience can force us to discard or modify inferences we have drawn from previous experience." - Epistemological Problems of Economics
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2010, 12:56:02 AM
My apologies to Shane and the other minarchists in advance for this:

"Minarchists, I love you like I love a pet that just won’t potty-train. I know you’re trying your darnedest, but it sure is frustrating. I’m going to keep making fun of you, but just remember that it’s playful ribbing from a friend; an incredibly condescending and tactless friend, but a friend nonetheless."--Dale Everett, Anarchists & Minarchists & Socialists, oh, my! (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/06/30/anarchists-minarchists-socialists-oh-my/)

The article linked is also a win quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2010, 01:47:12 AM
"According to the labor theory of value, the workers could have gone to a vacant lot, and produced the same amount of wealth by replicating the same physical actions they undertook working for the greedy capitalist, this time without a building and without any equipment, management, customers or business plan. If we take away the greedy capitalist, these little details must go as well. Just think of Marcel Marceau pretending to work. That's right. You syndicalists pretend to work and we capitalists will pretend to pay you."--James Ostrowski (http://mises.org/article.aspx?Id=1132)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 21, 2010, 09:29:14 AM
I'm shameless plugging again but oh well...

One can never conclude rationally that the government is righteous for the simple reason that the government does not abide by it's own stated moral principles. You can practice what you preach and be wrong but you can never not practice what you preach and be right. - Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2010, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on November 21, 2010, 09:29:14 AM
I'm shameless plugging again but oh well...

One can never conclude rationally that the government is righteous for the simple reason that the government does not abide by it's own stated moral principles. You can practice what you preach and be wrong but you can never not practice what you preach and be right. - Me
As Stefan said, if using violence to achieve what is considered virtue is moral, then the state is still immoral for preventing us from doing what it does.
If using violence to achieve what is considered virtue is immoral, then the state is obviously immoral.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2010, 02:15:22 PM
"I am convinced that there are more threats to American liberty within the 10 mile radius of my office on Capitol Hill than there are on the rest of the globe." - Ron Paul
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 22, 2010, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 22, 2010, 02:15:22 PM
"I am convinced that there are more threats to American liberty within the 10 mile radius of my office on Capitol Hill than there are on the rest of the globe." - Ron Paul

Posts like this make me wish they had the thumbs-up mod for SMF ready. Until then, have some more anti-bogons!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 22, 2010, 03:50:58 PMthe thumbs-up mod for SMF
What's that?

Quote from: MrBogosity on November 22, 2010, 03:50:58 PMUntil then, have some more anti-bogons!
Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 06:33:22 PM
"How about we tell all the old people to go fuck off like the dirty parasites they are and stop their legalized theft of younger people's income. I don't care if they have 'paid into the system,' I don't owe them shit."--FlowCell's comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70lkobYY0Hc)

Posted more for the middle and last parts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 23, 2010, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 23, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
What's that?

Exactly what it says: lets you thumb up or down an individual post.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 06:46:47 PM
In my defense, I didn't know what SMF stood for. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 23, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
Look at the bottom of the page...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 23, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
Look at the bottom of the page...
lol, my bad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 07:57:12 PM
"I will not settle for a compromise between freedom and statism [such as minarchy] for the same reason I will not settle for a compromise between rape and lovemaking."--Lord T Hawkeye, with the []'ed bit by me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 23, 2010, 11:49:51 PM
"You can't waste your vote unless you vote."--Penn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_MDhtwqEJA)

The video is also a fav quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2010, 06:43:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2010, 09:21:15 PM
"If you hate America so much, why don't you go to your libertarian paradise in SOMALIA!!! England is much better than Somalia, and it's because of and only because of their [Somalia's] current lack of a state and it has nothing to do with decades of fascist and later communist dictatorships or the current invasions from the UN and Muslims.

STATE = CIVILIZATION!!! My MACHO states will destroy your FEMININE anarchy! REAL WORLD!!! YEEEARRGH!!"--Fringeelements in this video's comment section (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoX1HCxxMJo)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2010, 09:25:14 PM
"You don't have to like something to acknowledge its legality."--xxxThePeachxxx in this video @0:55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDDCapfnxDA)
The video and its sequel were also fav quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 25, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 25, 2010, 09:25:14 PM
"You don't have to like something to acknowledge its legality."--xxxThePeachxxx in this video @0:55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDDCapfnxDA)
The video and the one it is a sequel to were also fail quotes.

Why were they fail quotes? I thought both videos were right on!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2010, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 25, 2010, 10:24:19 PMWhy were they fail quotes? I thought both videos were right on!

I MEANT to type "fav" quotes not "fail" quotes.
Blah, I'm tired.
It's been fixed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on November 26, 2010, 02:15:53 AM
Don't you mean prequel?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 26, 2010, 08:10:22 PM
"Economic realities can be a real bitch."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
http://mises.org/daily/3737 ("A Free-Market Guide to Healthcare")
Nice article.
It's a compilation of a large number of articles and other media about the free market approach to health care.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 28, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "The characteristic mark of this age of dictators, wars and revolutions is its anticapitalistic bias. Most governments and political parties are eager to restrict the sphere of private initiative and free enterprise." - Planned Chaos
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2010, 12:38:21 PM
My apologies in advance if I have already posted these, however, both videos are Fav Quotes:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2010, 10:39:29 PM
I'm starting to really like xxxThePeachxxx's videos. :)

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
"Let's get some UPB up this this bitch!"--What Stefan WOULD say if he was also a Juggalo.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2010, 11:17:27 PM
If I haven't shown this already:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
If I haven't already posted this:
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Outstanding video. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 05:06:21 PM
"Ahh Real Captain Olimar. I remember him well.
He was a man in full control of his faculties as he hung them out to dry in the rain."

Gumba Masta, with another good one. He's on a bit of a roll this week, it seems. =P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
I really was the only person (besides Gumba Masta) who liked RCO, was I?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 01, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
I really was the only person (besides Gumba Masta) who liked RCO, was I?

*shudders* Coming back... coming back... coming baaack....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2010, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 11:39:17 PM*shudders* Coming back... coming back... coming baaack....

REAL CAPTAIN OLIMAR!
IF YOU'RE READING THIS COME BACK!!! I MISS YOU!
VIRGIL0211 IS LYING! HE MISSES YOU TOO!
WE ALL MISS YOU!!!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 01, 2010, 11:40:34 PM
REAL CAPTAIN OLIMAR!
IF YOU'RE READING THIS COME BACK!!! I MISS YOU!
VIRGIL0211 IS LYING! HE MISSES YOU TOO!

:P

YOU WILL NOT BRING HIM BACK!!! YOU SHALL NOT!!!
DU WERDEST EINE KRAKENSCWESTER BRACHEN!!
ICH WERDE SICH TOETEN!!!!
NI3 BU2 SHI4 DONG1 XI5!!!!
KUTABARE!!!
BAKA ITTENAI-YO!!!
OBOETERO-YO!!!

Um... yeah... I'm not lying.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 02, 2010, 02:14:16 AM
Maybe he'll come back if you say his name three times while looking into a mirror?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 02, 2010, 09:30:54 PM
"Time Cube's Law: The probability of an author being a crackpot is directly proportional to the length of their webpage."--Guncriminal

The source is @5:20 in this video - [yt]tnOwLjg8EYU[/yt] 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 02, 2010, 11:28:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 03, 2010, 11:28:15 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 04, 2010, 01:54:58 PM
"It seems to me that the entire modus operandi of politics is the oversimplification of problems and the overcomplication of solutions." --Me again. I do have my moments...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 04, 2010, 02:39:23 PM
"Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)."--Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Que_Sera,_Sera_%28Whatever_Will_Be,_Will_Be%29)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 04, 2010, 08:02:33 PM
EDIT:  A note to Shane - the following are only talking about minarchists who believe in monopoly governments (like eagleeye1975 on youtube).  The following DO NOT apply to you, so ignore them.
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If you don't feel like watching the video, this image sums it up quite nicely:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9334/36385547.png)

Explanation:
"Negative rights
If I take your stuff, I'm invoking that I have more rights than you. That you do not have the right to the stuff but that I do. Negative rights rejects this. It is egalitarian regarding actions. If something is bad for one (to do), it is bad for all.

Positive rights
I have a right to something. Society owes me. This implies that there is a right to supply this, and also a right to take from others to supply this. Implied is also that it is the state that can take and supply this. If everybody has a right to things and has the right to decide what, and has the right to take it, then you're at pure chaos and might makes right. Suggesting universality to people who believe in positive rights, namely that if it's good to coercively provide X then it should be good for anyone to coercively provide X, is usually quickly rejected. They don't reject the proposition that it's good to coercively provide X but that it should be good for anyone. So they believe in public law different from private law. If I steal from my neighbor and give it to my parents it's theft. If a police man steals from my neighbor and gives it to my parents then it's social welfare."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 05, 2010, 11:28:47 PM
"GW [Global Warming] is real, AGW [Anthropogenic Global Warming] is only 90% likely,

AGW Apocalypse is religion."--KerryOakley (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?threaded=1&all_comments=1&v=YWFbjBwEGfM)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 06, 2010, 12:29:17 AM
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Scroll to 5:15 to see the Win Quote.  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 06, 2010, 12:32:16 AM
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Another satirical masterpiece by Morrakiu.  :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2010, 06:18:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
I swear, at least half of what comes out of Stargazer5781's mouth is epic win.
From the following video's comment section: [yt]vvTfZlLnnkU[/yt]

"Pretty much why I asked the questions at the end the way I did. If you spend more than 60 seconds trying to answer them you realize how much of a non-solution the state is (though I'd be EXTREMELY impressed if someone actually gave coherent answers). The state and God make the same fallacies, might as well use the same methods against them."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 10, 2010, 03:10:57 PM
"Democracy is a barbaric, inherently unsustainable political system resting on the pernicious fundamental illusion that the rubes and yahoos - universally acknowledged by the precious few capable of serious, sustained thought to be incapable of mental development very far beyond the age of ten - can somehow, despite their individual asininity, ascend to the zenith of wisdom when only they aggregate into a single mass. The people will only elect those like them: short-sighted fools."--IvanTheHeathen on this video's comment section (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl424cDABjw)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 10, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2010, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: Textra1@Soulfree2008 It's so cute that you think that a government of the people, for the people will lead to a non-coercive state, but America is an example of the failure of that principle. It's time to stop creating lords for ourselves and grow up. Dependence on the state is created by the state, so that people can argue that we need the state. The state is a crutch and it's time we moved on from it.
Source (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?threaded=1&all_comments=1&v=itoBorvUIx0)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2010, 12:53:47 AM
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This made me think of Shane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 11, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Something surhot just posted in Fail Quotes reminded me of this:

Quote from: "So Long and Thanks for All the Fish" by Douglas Adams"I come in peace," [the giant robot whose spaceship has just landed and caused lots of damage] said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 11, 2010, 05:44:55 PM
See, the lizards do rule the world.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 12, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 12, 2010, 03:29:31 AM
I didn't even know America had these many presidents.
But if you ask me I would choose Madison both as best and worst.
He had the gall to both go to war with Canada and loose it.
I bet it's because of video games. I heard he was an avid Fan of the Fallout series.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 12, 2010, 03:56:30 PM
For my recent string of fav quotes I'd like to thank a very special person.
Say about Kent Hovind what you want, but he teached me how far you can get with a livid disregard for reality and a absence of sanity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 12, 2010, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 12, 2010, 03:56:30 PM
For my recent string of fav quotes I'd like to thank a very special person.
Say about Kent Hovind what you want, but he teached me how far you can get with a livid disregard for reality and a absence of sanity.

I think the big difference is, you're doing it on purpose.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 12, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 12, 2010, 03:56:30 PM
For my recent string of fav quotes I'd like to thank a very special person.
Say about Kent Hovind what you want, but he teached me how far you can get with a livid disregard for reality and a absence of sanity.

No more bogons for you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 12, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
"I've got over 9000 wieners and I know right where to stick them."--Me, inspired by Encyclopedia Dramatica's article, "Gee Bill".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 12, 2010, 06:10:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 12, 2010, 04:09:24 PM
I think the big difference is, you're doing it on purpose.
I allegedly do it on purpose
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 12, 2010, 07:11:27 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "It is a poor makeshift to call any age an age of transition. In the living world there is always change. Every age is an age of transition." - Human Action
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 14, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
"To admit [the creationist] view is, as it seems to me, to reject a real for an unreal, or at least for an unknown cause. It makes the works of God a mere mockery and deception; I would almost as soon believe with the old and ignorant cosmogonists, that fossil shells had never lived, but had been created in stone so as to mock the shells now living on the sea-shore." --Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 17, 2010, 12:15:57 AM
"Third, the world did not begin on September 11. Our 104-year-old [this was written in 2002] policy of global intervention has made many enemies. What is happening now is a textbook example of how government grows. Government intervenes into some aspect of life, domestic or foreign, where it doesn't belong. It screws it up good, creates problems that would not otherwise exist, and then uses its powerful propaganda machine to disguise the true cause of the problem and convince people that even more government action is required. To paraphrase Ludwig von Mises, government creates its own demand."--James Ostrowski (http://mises.org/daily/895)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 17, 2010, 03:46:11 AM
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Made of win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 17, 2010, 06:42:12 AM
Script and commentary for the above play:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/mozart.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 19, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
I didn't do everything I wanted to do,
I didn't become everything I wanted to be,
But because I aimed for the stars,
I reached the top of the world.

--Harry Browne's self-written epitaph
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 19, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 17, 2010, 06:42:12 AM
Script and commentary for the above play:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/mozart.html
I meant to post that myself.
Thanks, Shane. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 20, 2010, 09:19:05 PM
A good one from ladyattis.

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So true.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 20, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
From the comments of this video: [yt]Bbe0npyuLUg[/yt]

The win is in blue.

GarlicPudding: "'I bet the insurance companies love that.'
Yeah, just like the car insurance companies loved it when some states passed a law that requires you to be insured when you own a car.
And yet, I haven't seen anyone get angry about that...."

Morrakiu: "@GarlicPudding
I think both should be opposed. You won't find as many republicans in opposition to car insurance mandates as you'll find in opposition to health insurance mandates. A lot of the opposition is just partisan bullshit. Mitt Romney instituted a plan similar to Obama's in Massachusetts, but the republicans love him. I wish these twats would just pick a coherent set of principles, actually stick with them, and stop the 'red team vs. blue team' crap."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 21, 2010, 12:08:55 PM
"The worst thing climate science did, was to let people like Gore, Laurie David, and RFK Jr. run around for five years in the mid '00s, telling everybody that the current weather was PROOF of Climate Change. Now that the weather has turned, so has public sentiment; not only against global warming, but the whole of climate science. Their lackadaisical attitude towards alarmism only served to diminish science in general." --Tim Slagle (in a recent Facebook post)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 21, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 21, 2010, 12:08:55 PM
"The worst thing climate science did, was to let people like Gore, Laurie David, and RFK Jr. run around for five years in the mid '00s, telling everybody that the current weather was PROOF of Climate Change. Now that the weather has turned, so has public sentiment; not only against global warming, but the whole of climate science. Their lackadaisical attitude towards alarmism only served to diminish science in general." --Tim Slagle (in a recent Facebook post)
I'm starting to like this Tim Slagle guy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 21, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Speaking of "Lackadaisy" (http://lackadaisy.foxprints.com/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 22, 2010, 10:26:07 AM
This is from the Chopping Block on December the eight.
http://choppingblock.keenspot.com/d/20101208.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 21, 2010, 12:21:08 PMI'm starting to like this Tim Slagle guy.
The more I learn, the more I'm also convinced that idiots like Al Gore are the Kent Hovinds of Climate Science.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2010, 08:50:33 PM
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Now all he needs to do is extend this to economic freedoms, and he'll be a libertarian again.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2010, 11:09:35 PM
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Unbelievable.
(To the tune of Charlie's Grampa's song on Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory -- The original, not the new version):
I never thought I'd see the day, when I'd hear Pat Robertson come and say,
"We need to, legalize pot."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on December 23, 2010, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 22, 2010, 11:09:35 PM
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Unbelievable.
(To the tune of Charlie's Grampa's song on Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory -- The original, not the new version):
I never thought I'd see the day, when I'd hear Pat Robertson come and say,
"We need to, legalize pot."

I have no words...

O.O
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 23, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
Maybe.....it is dangerous after all?
Or is it just because you can only believe in Jesus when you're high?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2010, 02:58:16 PM
Anyone else remember when Nixon went to China?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 23, 2010, 02:58:16 PMAnyone else remember when Nixon went to China?

No.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 23, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
I do... I just don't remember what it was that he did there... if anything.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
It was the fact that he WENT there. Lots of pansy-ass, bedwetting, pinko liberals wanted us to open relations with China. But when the all-American, über-Patriotic, drug-and-Vietnam-war-waging commie-hater Nixon did it, people started coming around and realizing that it might be time to actually listen to some other human beings besides themselves.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 23, 2010, 04:59:40 PM
Too bad that for china freedom still seems to be just that funny word those foreigners use.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
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Another classic by Stefan. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 23, 2010, 07:13:49 PM
Oh hey, Minecraft refference. Did you get it too?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2010, 02:57:12 PM
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Another awesome video by DarkMatter2525. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 02:21:58 AM
NSFW:  http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b1e50c566e/further-proof-that-god-created-us
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AHPMB on December 25, 2010, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 23, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
It was the fact that he WENT there. Lots of pansy-ass, bedwetting, pinko liberals wanted us to open relations with China. But when the all-American, über-Patriotic, drug-and-Vietnam-war-waging commie-hater Nixon did it, people started coming around and realizing that it might be time to actually listen to some other human beings besides themselves.

Nixon was, in many ways the last liberal President.  He talked like a hard-line war hawk, but this is the guy that ended Vietnam, created the EPA, reaffirmed Affirmative Action, got the ERA through Congress, and reaffirmed many of the Great Society programs.

I always say, Nixon was our last liberal president, Clinton is the last conservative one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 11:49:04 AM
They were all statist presidents.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
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I see people everywhere, including liberty lovers like AHPMB, making this error.
In reality, we are not the state.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
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As I posted on the latter video:

I like RJWeapon's point about the military.  As a friend of mine (Shane) once said, "Duress is NOT consent".
And knowing the statists, especially from the UK, Denmark, etc, they'll just say crap like, "well they listen to the people in MY country; yer just doin' it rong!"
As for the point about the military, if the person signed up for it voluntarily, then they have no sympathy from me.  If they were drafted (under threat of violence) and forced to kill people, can you say I "consented" to it or was responsible for it when I didn't have a say in the matter?
In which case I would fail to see how I would be responsible if I didn't have any damn choice in the first place.
One could argue, "I had a choice; do it or die" but that's just utter crap.
By that "logic" every single anarchist is responsible for war crimes because he "paid" for them via taxes and inflation.

RJWeapon's analogy of an opinion poll is more accurate than many would think.
In essence, that's what voting is--an opinion poll.
Elections in the USA are decided by the Electoral College, not by the voters themselves, even if there is a conflict between the two; the Electoral College trumps the voters.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 01:00:11 PM
In the first episode of Death Note, after Light Yagami tells Ryuk that he wants to use the death note to purge the world of evil people, of criminals and of wrongdoers; that he aims to create a world of people who are kind and hard-working.

In response to this, Ryuk gives what is perhaps the most insightful and most liberty leaning quote in the entire anime:
"If you do that, then the only evil person left would be you."--Ryuk, Death Note: Episode One "Rebirth"

Source (Scroll to 10:00):  [yt]ID42tk0zNT0[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 25, 2010, 08:40:41 PM
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More epic win by Michael Shanklin. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 25, 2010, 08:54:53 PM
Mike Shanklin is full of win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2010, 01:46:15 AM
True dat.

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This is one of the videos that inspired me to start this thread. (https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=492.0)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2010, 01:54:14 AM
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I fucking love these things. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2010, 08:55:11 AM
"Courage begins with a commitment to see things as they are, rather than how we wish they were." --Ron Paul (source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdafLIQfWlY))
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 02:29:40 PM
"Countries don't go to war because of the differences of their people but out of the similiarities of their leaders"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2010, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 02:29:40 PM
"Countries don't go to war because of the differences of their people but out of the similiarities of their leaders"

Like!

Who said it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
I wont tell you!
If you'd knew I had said that my bogometer would plumet.
Ooops. @_@
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
I wont tell you!
If you'd knew I had said that my bogometer would plumet.
Ooops. @_@

I gave you a cluon (antibogon) just for posting it.
I tried to give you another for saying you thought of that, but it said I cannot repeat a karma action within an hour. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Would you give me a Bogon if I told I first came up with that bit on the philosphy discussion board of a Furry RP Forum?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2010, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Would you give me a Bogon if I told I first came up with that bit on the philosphy discussion board of a Furry RP Forum?
No, because that would be the karma equivalent of a genetic fallacy. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 28, 2010, 04:34:31 PM
Even your greatest donor has abandoned you, Gumba. Your bogon gaining days are OVER!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
 Nooooooooooo! (http://"http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/")
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2010, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 28, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
I gave you a cluon (antibogon) just for posting it.
I tried to give you another for saying you thought of that, but it said I cannot repeat a karma action within an hour. :P
That's okay; I just did it for you!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 29, 2010, 12:30:07 PM
"A library is a much more sacred building than a church." --Kurdy, Jeremiah: "Out of the Ashes"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2010, 02:44:27 AM
"If you can read this I'm not impressed.  Most people can read."--a picture of a bumper stick
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2010, 12:07:53 PM
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As stated in Fail Quotes, the above video is win.
I think Tim Slagle is very underrated.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2010, 12:40:37 PM
I dunno. I mean I agree that Al Gore should be gored for his idiocy. But it's not really science's fault that media likes to take a scientist's statment, pick out a part and come up with big ass scary headlines from it and omiting all the rest he said.. Or is it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2010, 12:40:37 PMI mean I agree that Al Gore should be gored for his idiocy. But it's not really science's fault that media likes to take a scientist's statement, pick out a part and come up with big ass scary headlines from it and omitting all the rest he said.. Or is it?
Made of win.  Indeed.
You just earned yourself another anti-bogon for that one. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 31, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
Wasn't he in positive numbers only last week? Is this the fastest someone's gotten below -20 on the bogometer?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2010, 01:24:16 PM
I'm the ocean. I'm the wind. I'mma friggin force-a-nature. Nobody get's me, baby.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2010, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 31, 2010, 01:23:09 PMWasn't he in positive numbers only last week? Is this the fastest someone's gotten below -20 on the bogometer?
That's correct.  And yes, it is, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 31, 2010, 01:52:35 PM
Oh, I'm not worrying, I'll find a way to get my bogons back.
And then I'll use my stupidy engine to power a robot army... TO TAKE OVER, THE WORLD!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 31, 2010, 02:21:49 PM
I don't even want to THINK about what would happen to a bogon-powered engine when it's turned on...I just don't want to be within 20 miles of it!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2010, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 31, 2010, 02:21:49 PM
I don't even want to THINK about what would happen to a bogon-powered engine when it's turned on...I just don't want to be within 20 miles of it!
But what about a cluon powered engine?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2011, 12:34:04 PM
"The statist 'intellectuals' that represent themselves as logical, scientifically-minded people really annoy the heck out of me. They'll act perfectly rational until someone tries to make an argument against statism, and then suddenly they start babbling as incoherently as a Creationist, blissfully unaware of how ignorant they sound. When thunderf00t started delving into economic topics, I couldn't take it. I had to unsubscribe. The worst part is he's passing his ignorance on to his subscribers."--787Bisurdaddy, from the comment section of this video:  [yt]TJONtBAGuto[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
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There are actually people who think silver's, and possibly gold's, price is going up is because it's in a bubble?
There are people who actually believe that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 01, 2011, 09:02:35 PM
How come other metals like neodymium are going up, too? Is there a neodymium bubble as well?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 01, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 01, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
There are actually people who think silver's, and possibly gold's, price is going up is because it's in a bubble?
There are people who actually believe that?

It's actually wrong at 1:46. You can take out a loan to buy anything.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2011, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 01, 2011, 09:02:35 PMHow come other metals like neodymium are going up, too? Is there a neodymium bubble as well?
along with gold, platinum and palladium, to name a few.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 01, 2011, 09:07:10 PMIt's actually wrong at 1:46. You can take out a loan to buy anything.
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that was a bit weird when he mentioned that.  Also, the use of anecdotes was lacking in rigor, but otherwise, I liked it. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 01, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 01, 2011, 09:52:36 PMalong with gold, platinum and palladium, to name a few.

Yes, but neodymium isn't traded as a precious metal, so it's a great metric for comparison.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 01, 2011, 10:52:33 PM
And styrofoam?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 02, 2011, 12:05:45 PM
Usualy I'm at odds with Lee Doran aka How the World Works.
But in this one video I found myself agreeing with every single word spoken

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 03, 2011, 01:53:52 AM
This one will require a bit of context.
In this video by Thunderf00t:  [yt]Ut8XsEDyyzo[/yt]
TF shows Alex Jones in one of his crazy rants.
To which Shane continues with, "0:40 - YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE SCREAMING SO LOUD THAT YOU CLIP THE VOLUME LEVELS IN YOUR MICROPHONE UNTIL IT SOUNDS LIKE COMPLETE SHIT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL RADIO HOST? HUH? YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE???"

And another guy, KyleKJune, "YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE SCHIZOPHRENIC"

And another one, daemonowner, "You know what its like to be the most paranoid Schizophrenic on earth!?!?!?!"

To which I would continue that bit with, "YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING THE MOST PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC ON EARTH!!!!!!!!? HUH? YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE???"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 03, 2011, 05:20:36 PM
"Mr1001Bolsheviks blocked me for telling him that Francisco Franco was less authoritarian than the Spanish anarchists during the Spanish Civil War so I can't inform him that this video exists but if he is made aware of it, he would be pissed that one of his perceived comrades would betray him."--RaymondDundas' description in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34YxvgkzN-Y)

"I piss on the graves of the anarchists who died in the prisons of Franco. Franco did a good thing killing them. Spain was incredibly lucky the nationalists won. As a result, Spain was an economically stagnant shitty third-way economy instead of a communist megadeath nightmare. The communists would have killed more, evidence is found wherever they won.

Life experience! Because extrapolating the .05% of the world you've seen is the best way to construct an unprecedented economic organization!"--Fringeelements; highest rated comment on the above video

"@MarmaladeINFP Failed [post hoc] assumption addressed in the video that honesty is for 'shits and giggles' whatever the flying fuck that means. I go over the disposition for honesty as a utilitarian conquest in assuming that there is any utility in making a channel and discussing such ideas. Objectivists are far less authoritarian than left-'anarchists' such as mr1001nights. LaughingMan0x even agrees with me on that. Your comment is full of piss and shit and fail and squid eyeballs."--RaymondDundas; second highest rated comment on the above video



I don't know all the details about the Spanish "Anarchists" of that period, but from what I've heard, they were "anarchists" in name alone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 03, 2011, 06:11:34 PM
Let's say that the lot of them was horrible to variing degrees and drop them in a ditch.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 04, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
"But without God, how will we build roads?"--someone on one of Morrakiu's Catholic School videos
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 05, 2011, 07:28:14 AM
Alright, this time's it's a real fav quote. ;)

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 06, 2011, 06:22:41 AM
"Seriously, conspiracy theorists, ending government coercion would stop all of it. There would be no way for them to tax the crap out of us to put fluoride in the water, no large scale wars, no victimless crimes, no "sprayings", hell, no lying political tyrants ever again.

"A conspiracy theorist helps their masters by NOT spreading anarchy/voluntaryism... by supporting government coercion on peaceful people." --Michael Shanklin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 06, 2011, 06:22:41 AM
"Seriously, conspiracy theorists, ending government coercion would stop all of it. There would be no way for them to tax the crap out of us to put fluoride in the water, no large scale wars, no victimless crimes, no "sprayings", hell, no lying political tyrants ever again.

"A conspiracy theorist helps their masters by NOT spreading anarchy/voluntaryism... by supporting government coercion on peaceful people." --Michael Shanklin
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2011, 04:00:33 PM
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Very good video by Stefan. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
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Another outstanding video. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 06, 2011, 09:32:45 PM
"An atheist who is a statist is just another theist"--Stefan Molyneux; description on his latest video (as of this posting) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qID7Jsu1K0s)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 08, 2011, 09:58:12 AM
Just for the beauty of the Poe:

http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgov

Check out his comments on other videos as well.

(And in case you're wondering, it's based on this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod whose entire tenure of posting would fill a whole separate Fail Quotes thread!)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 09, 2011, 01:26:24 PM
..., that does'nt happen to be your account?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 09, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
Nope, not me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 13, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
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Stef at his best, once again.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
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Stefan has really been on a roll lately.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 17, 2011, 09:47:48 AM
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate." --Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 17, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 18, 2011, 01:26:22 AM
"We should ban all guns. No one should have guns! Guns should be illegal."

"Sounds great. How are you going to enforce it?"

"lolwut?" --Stargazer5781 Source:  This video's highest ranked comment:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ21T7PC_tg
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 19, 2011, 05:56:51 AM
"Rule 6. If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it."
-The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates-
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 20, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
"eleutherophobia (uncountable) 1. Fear of freedom." -Wiktionary

Best.
Word.
Ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 20, 2011, 09:55:49 PM
But not as much fun as "sesquipedaliaphobia" (a fear of long words).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
"Just tell me where in the world you find these angels who are going to organize society for us." --Milton Friedman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 23, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
"I HATE the term 'crony capitalism' because there's nothing capitalist about it at all." --Shane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hf-9fM71i8)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 23, 2011, 05:27:49 PM
Lots of my FB friends are quoting me on this one:

"It makes sense to me that government robbing Peter to pay Paul will virtually guarantee them getting Paul's vote. What baffles me is that they keep getting Peter's vote as well!" --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 23, 2011, 06:24:40 PM
Well, since we're quoting ourselves here, I'm actually quite proud of this one:

"The people saying that I should be grateful of government because it provides me with services/goods/etc must think I'm at least 6 different types of stupid.  If the government didn't tax away over half of our income, regulate away our opportunities and inflate away our savings, just to name a few, I'd have that much more wealth and wouldn't NEED government in the first place." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 24, 2011, 12:38:25 PM
I'd recommend watching the first video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-jg90JNksE) before this one:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 24, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
I have absolutely no clue what he is talking about but I'm certain I am appaled by it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 28, 2011, 10:20:12 PM
"The moral argument for [the] repudiation [of the national debt] is easiest to follow[,] although by itself [it] says nothing about the practical results. Treasury securities represent a stream of future tax revenues, and investors have no more just claim to those returns than to any investment in a criminal enterprise. I favor total repudiation of all government debt for the same reason I favor abolition of slavery without compensation to slaveholders."--Jeffrey Rogers Hummel (http://mises.org/daily/5000)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 29, 2011, 06:42:23 AM
Good point. While the beneficiaries in a Ponzi scam might have a valid civil claim against the perpetrator of the scam, they do NOT have a claim to any money that the current investors would have paid into it in the future. I think the same concept applies here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 29, 2011, 11:56:40 AM
"From what I've seen, HTWW doesn't even understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism, something that's usually only reserved for the ignorance of statists. He's also been conned into believing that the US health care system is a free market system and put himself in the position of defending it.

Really, if he wanted to help the cause of libertarianism, he'd switch to the other side."--Shane on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYWxflErVWk)

Glad SOMEONE else noticed that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 29, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
And speaking of the national debt:

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Have I posted this already?  If so, it deserves to be brought up again. :)


And to those who would bring up the bogosity known as the "Social Contract":

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 29, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are." --H.L. Mencken
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
@Shane:  Very good quote. :)


"YES! In the State of the Unicorn address, Obama kept emphasizing how force-funded investments in future technologies will result in the yet unknown industries of the future.

This led me to ask, 'If nobody knows the industry of the future, isn't it best to let everyone invest in whatever they want?'

HOW can one make the claim that something amazing will result from funding...but not know what it is yet?" --SanieClaws, highest rated comment (as of this posting) on this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2011, 01:03:20 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police." - Liberalism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 30, 2011, 08:23:47 PM
"Actions that would be considered reprehensible if done by an absolute dictator, are considered morally legitimate if done by a democratically-elected government." --Downsize DC Foundation, The Democracy Fallacy (http://www.downsizedcfoundation.org/blog/the-democracy-fallacy)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
Shane, that is freakin' epic, man. :)


However, I would change the wording a bit.  I would have said, "Actions that would be considered reprehensible if done by an absolute dictator, or even just private individuals, are considering morally legitimate if done by a democratically-elected government." (boldface to emphasis change)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
"Free Market Fascism doesn't, and cannot exist.
Mussolini:
'If [classical] liberalism spells individualism, Fascism spells government. The Fascist State is, however, a unique and original creation...in the economic field by the increasingly numerous and important functions discharged by trade unions and trade associations with their disputes and ententes, affecting both capital and labor;'

That's economic intervention; Free market is interventionless last I checked."--shadowgeyser

"No Jacob, the State is the default position. Look at how complex civilization is, there must be a designer i.e the State."--shadowgeyser

Source of both quotes is the comment section of this video:  [yt]qBUpZh1AZlY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 31, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 30, 2011, 08:23:47 PM
"Actions that would be considered reprehensible if done by an absolute dictator, are considered morally legitimate if done by a democratically-elected government." --Downsize DC Foundation, The Democracy Fallacy (http://www.downsizedcfoundation.org/blog/the-democracy-fallacy)

Wait, there's actually a serious way of saying what i said in the fail quotes thread?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2011, 06:42:32 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on January 31, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
Wait, there's actually a serious way of saying what i said in the fail quotes thread?

And you wonder why your bogometer keeps going down!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 31, 2011, 09:39:26 AM
Well I did manage to get it up again for a while...
but then I ran out of viagra.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2011, 05:26:12 PM
"You've got the brain-washed, that's the Republicans, and the brain-dead, that's the Democrats." --Mark Russell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2011, 12:52:31 AM
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Another outstanding masterpiece by Lord T Hawkeye. :)

He had to disable comments on the other video, but not before posting this piece of pwnage:

"@montereypopfestiva67 okay, so I'm a pompous ass for saying you're wrong and then you proceed to declare me wrong without backing it up? Interesting...

Sorry but all sources outside of your state run schools say otherwise. I'm not simply taking your word on that. You gotta give me more.

Finally, even if they weren't talking surrender, what if you simply didn't attack at all? Tell me straight shot, what is the WORST thing that could possibly have happened?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 01, 2011, 11:50:47 AM
Two fav quotes from this article (http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/can-government-manage-the-economy/):
QuoteIt's an astounding non sequitur: to assert that government can prevent crises, recessions, and "swings in unemployment" while being fully aware that for 98 years it has been trying to do it and failing.
QuoteI call it the watchful eye illusion: the idea that government has greater knowledge and wisdom than the public. In extreme form this illusion treats government as God, as a superior being, who, from His Olympian position, surveys the scene and controls error and wrongdoing. Once this illusion is locked into your thinking, you remain convinced, despite any amount of failure, that government has the ability to do things right next time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2011, 04:51:56 PM
Nice!
And people wonder why me and Lord T Hawkeye call statism a "religion":  it's just trading one infallible authority for another.

And of course, you, me and others already call it "The Cult of the Omnipotent State".  The reason?  Because the glove fits.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 02, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
"[notag][/notag]f you are using the same tactics as the Creationist movement, you gotta start thinking that maybe, just maybe, you arent as educated on this topic as you think you are." --Abbie Smith, ERV (http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2011/02/whats_good_for_the_goose_is_go.php)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 04, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
"A text itself is neither worthless nor worth a lot. What makes any text--including our constitution--be worthwhile is how well the people keep to it. The reason why we still (for the most part) have free speech in this country is not because of ink on parchment; it's because people have been willing to step forward and defend the concept." -ShaneDK on his latest constitution video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2011, 04:05:54 PM
"*beep*

WRONG! The reason why you still have some free speech is because the central hub of organi[z]ed crime and mob rule known as the state wants people to be be free to some extent because it makes people more productive and serves the state better!"--rebel1q in response to the above.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
"They may take our tails, but they may never take, OUR SEMEN!!!!"--Semen Wallace @1:17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrzuWl9ml2Y)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2011, 05:24:51 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "There is really no essential difference between the unlimited power of the democratic state and the unlimited power of the autocrat." - Socialism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
Stefan Molyneux/Jan Helfeld Debate – Anarchism Versus Minarchism (http://readfdr.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/144/)

The transcription of the video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2011, 02:56:34 AM
Quote from: valvatica on May 28, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
"Here's the first rule of bullshit: If somebody says 'There ought to be a law...', there probably oughtn't."
--Penn Jillette, from the Endangered Species episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

"My dear, there are two rules of skepticism:  1) If someone says, 'there ought to be a law,' then there probably shouldn't be.  2)  There are no sacred cows."--Me, modifying Penn's 'rule of skepticism'.  Boldface added for emphasis.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 05, 2011, 04:14:49 AM
Maybe no sacred cows but can we agree that there's some choice ass?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 05, 2011, 04:28:04 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on February 05, 2011, 04:14:49 AM
Maybe no sacred cows but can we agree that there's some choice ass?

Now, now. That's no way to talk about your mother. =P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 05, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
Good god, you actually got the refference?
But did you get the one I ment?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2011, 06:55:56 PM
To all the people (including MisterBusta) who say, "Morality comes from God.":

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9553/euthyphrodilemma.jpg)

Source is on the Mises Institute forum's (now stickied) Freedom Images thread, page 8.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 05, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on February 05, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
Good god, you actually got the refference?
But did you get the one I ment?

It's mended, not ment. And yes, I did. By the way, duct tape was a poor choice. Should've just replaced it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 05, 2011, 07:58:33 PM
Oh good... which one was it. I've kind of forgotten. <_<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2011, 07:59:40 PM
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"And with what cost does he purchase this increased threat of crime and violence? The sacrifice of his own liberty. For all of mankind's experience speaks to the fact that by far the single most common aggressor against the rights of mankind is, and always will be, states. In the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson expressed the concept that states exist for the purpose of securing our rights. Yet, what a misguided notion! To see how misguided this notion is, one merely needs to read the so-called Bill of Rights to the Constitution. This document attempts to secure for all Americans the rights to freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom to bear arms, security against having the military quartered in my home, security against unreasonable searches and seizures, and security against unfair judicial proceedings. But who is it that threatens these rights if it is not states? The argument is, therefore, circular: I need a state to secure my rights, which rights are only threatened by states." --Caleb Johnson (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/03/21/the-anarchy-boogey-man/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2011, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 28, 2010, 02:29:40 PM"Countries don't go to war because of the differences of their people but out of the similiarities of their leaders"

And speaking of the causes of war:

"The carnage of conflict is only an effect of the core violence which supports war, which is
the military enslavement of domestic citizens through the draft – and even more
importantly, the direct theft of their money which pays for the war.

Without the money to fund a war – and pay the soldiers, whether they are drafted or not –
war is impossible. The actual violence of the battlefield is a mere effect of the threatened
violence at home. If citizens could not be forced to pay for the war – either in the present in
the form of taxes, or in the future through deficit financing – then the carnage of the
battlefield could never possibly occur.

I have read many books and articles on the root of war – whether it is nationalism,
economic forces, faulty philosophical premises, class conflict and so on – none of which
addressed the central issue, which is how war is paid for. This is like advancing merely
psychological explanations as to why people play the lottery, without ever once mentioning
their interest in the prize money. Why do people become doctors? Is it because they have a
psychological need to present themselves as godlike healers, or because they are pleasing
their mother and father, or because they are themselves secretly wounded, or because they
possess an altruistic desire to heal the sick? These may be all interesting theories to pursue,
but they are mere effects of the basic fact that doctors are highly paid for what they do.

Certainly psychological or sociological theories may explain why a particular person
chooses to become a doctor rather than pursue some other high-paying occupation – but
surely we should at least start with the fact that if doctors were not paid, almost no one
would become a doctor. For instance, if a magic pill were invented tomorrow that ensured
perfect health forever, there would be no more doctors – because no one would pay for the
unnecessary service. Thus the first cause of doctors is – payment.

In the same way, we can endlessly theorize about the psychological, sociological or
economic causes of war, but if we never talk about the simple fact that the first cause of war
is domestic theft and military enslavement, then everything that follows remains mere
abstract and airless intellectual quibbling, more designed to hide the truth than reveal it.

We can only point guns at foreign enemies because we first point guns at domestic citizens.

Without taxation, there can be no war.

Without governments, there can be no taxation.

Thus governments are the first cause of war.

The truth of the matter, I believe, is that deep down we know that if we pull out this one
single thread – that coercion against citizens is the root of war – we know that many other
threads will also come unraveled."--Stefan Molyneux, Everyday Anarchy, page 31
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 06, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
Or shorter...
War, war never changes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
"Neo-conservatives are just ex-Trotskyist commies.  They all suck." --deathtotyrants76 in the comments of this video:  [yt]FCe6p7zhR5o[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed 1000 more if only they knew they were slaves." --Harriet Tubman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 06, 2011, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 06, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed 1000 more if only they knew they were slaves." --Harriet Tubman

I'm still looking for a definitive source for this one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2011, 10:17:42 PM
I got it from one of Mike Shanklin's videos in case you're wondering.

"Reagan's anti-communist rhetoric notwithstanding, his spending records indicate he was more concerned with creating a socialist state at home than stopping the ones abroad." --Me, inspired by James Ostrowski, and the slew of criticisms to conservativism/republicans from the Mises Institute recently
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2011, 11:49:28 PM
And speaking of Ostrowski:

"And don't tell me about 'free riders.' It's my plan that eliminates the free riders: people who live at the expense of unwilling others. Besides, I'd rather have a few 'free riders' than have a whole nation of tax slaves (unfree carriers)."--James Ostrowski, Shane, you'll love this Mises Daily.  It's like a short version of Harry Browne's book, "Why Government Doesn't Work" (http://mises.org/daily/633)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2011, 11:39:58 PM
"A lynch mob is a democracy [a]s well. Should that be held sacred?" --Virgil0211 in the comment section of this video:  [yt]cpeoZsCobrM[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 10, 2011, 04:52:44 PM
"Actually science without religion is fucking awesome." --Sconz32; highest rated comment (as of this posting) on this video:  [yt]lDvu6wz9qF4[/yt]

"Faith IS hope without evidence. When people believe that Noah herded two of every animal on Earth into a big boat and floated around for 40 days, they don't do it because there's proof, they do so with hope because they WANT to believe it's true.

The scientific method itself doesn't approve/disprove anything. It's not an intelligent agent, it's a process." --shade1978x, second highest rated comment on that same video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 11, 2011, 06:45:40 AM
"Fine. Lets grant the premise that everything scientists say about evolution is a lie. Why does it work? Why do we get results when we use the concept of evolution as the foundation for our experiments? Why do we learn new information? Why do we solve problems? If evolution is a lie, its a lie that gives us results. If Creationism is true, its a truth that provides us with nothing except a warm fuzzy feeling that a cruel, inept deity exists." --Abbie Smith
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 11, 2011, 10:28:52 AM
You want to trust your healthcare to the same people who happily wage wars and sell the future productivity of your children to pay for it...and you're trying to say I'M naive? - Me

"well, see, that's not the same thing. it doesn't count because..um...YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN WHO WILL FORCE YOU TO PAY TAXES IN A STATELESS SOCIETY SO IT DOESNT WORK!"
Seriously, it's like showing a solar panel to someone, who tells you it will never work because there's nowhere to pour the gas in. - My friend Wraith's reply
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
[yt]A1MASsKbWQs[/yt]

Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 12, 2011, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 12, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
[yt]A1MASsKbWQs[/yt]

Epic win.

Failz around 1:35: Global Cooling was never a scientific consensus, and the educated world has agreed that the Earth is round for almost 3000 years.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 12, 2011, 05:22:08 PM
"What do you call a small businessman who makes $300,000 and wants lower taxes and less regulation so that he can re-invest in his business and hire more workers? He's 'greedy.' What do you call a billionaire who calls for HIGHER taxes and more regulation so that he won't face competition from small business? He's 'a philanthropist and a humanitarian.'" --DownsizeDC.org (on their Facebook page)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 12, 2011, 04:05:27 PMFailz around 1:35: Global Cooling was never a scientific consensus, and the educated world has agreed that the Earth is round for almost 3000 years.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. :)
Beyond those things, it was good, despite what I perceived as a conservative slant.  My favorite was the bit about a college education and the 63% chance that you'll make either the same as or LESS than the people who didn't attend college.

EDIT:  I've got 2011 posts! Same as the number of this year!. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 13, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
[yt]w7XpUEIfUz8[/yt]

Glad to know more and more people are catching on to this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2011, 02:51:48 AM
"I will never understand people who treat pollution as a result of capitalism...Pollution, by definition is a violation of [the] property rights of the person whose property is polluted [without] their consent; and as such, is as antithetical to capitalism as government wealth re-distributive schemes." --Me, in the comments to this video:  [yt]-_gU50mfehI[/yt]

I do have my moments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 15, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
"Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough for Love"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 15, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 15, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
"Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough for Love"

I think I just found what will be my next signature!

Heinlein really seems awesome, based on what I've seen of him.
I really don't know what that "24 types of Libertarian" poster we saw earlier was bitching about when it said one of them was, "Too much Heinlein".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 03:25:19 AM
Not so much a fav quote as something I need to get off my chest:

"Many of the 'capitalists' I know at my college--my economics professor, my physics professor, etc--are actually corporatists, given that they seem convinced what we have in the USA is a free market.  Really, if they wanted to help the cause of freedom, they'd switch sides, or at least stop conflating mercantile policies like Intellectual Property and government intervention on 'externalities' with a free market." --Me

Yeah, I will NEVER understand the people who use the externalities argument for government intervention.
Even everything they stated were true, by their own admission, we can't have a government either:  For what is government if not one giant externality?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 03:49:46 AM
"In political science and economics the five biggest contradictions are: 'Limited Government', 'Anarcho-Communism/Socialism', 'State Capitalism', 'Libertarian Socialism' and 'Crony Capitalism'" --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 18, 2011, 06:30:58 AM
What about "crony capitalism"? I really hate it when people call it that...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 18, 2011, 06:46:41 AM
Since we're at it...
What about the term "Casino Capitalism" ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 18, 2011, 06:30:58 AMWhat about "crony capitalism"? I really hate it when people call it that...

Crap, one second...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on February 18, 2011, 06:46:41 AM
Since we're at it...
What about the term "Casino Capitalism" ?
Or "Disaster Capitalism".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 02:29:03 PM
"In a world in which the last superpower is losing control — and the sooner the better — American conservatives will have to make a choice. Do they favor freedom? Or do they favor the global military state? Fess up, fellows. You have to make the choice." --Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. (http://mises.org/daily/5055)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2011, 06:05:49 PM
This entire article is a win quote:  The Mystery of FDR Unraveled by Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. (http://mises.org/daily/4801)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2011, 07:24:25 PM
America — Love It or Leave It by Harry Browne (http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/AmericaLoveIt.htm)
Gotta love Harry Browne.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
And to balance out the overload of bogons from my last post, here's something full of nutritious cluons:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 21, 2011, 06:12:18 PM
"There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." --Richard Feynman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 22, 2011, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: valvatica on May 25, 2010, 09:45:24 PM[video embed left out because it is no longer available]

"Kyle, this is the way the world works. If you want to find some quality friends, you gotta wade through all the dicks first."

That was a good one.  I'm glad I saw you posted it, otherwise I might have ended up posting it myself soon. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 22, 2011, 12:55:30 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2010, 10:19:49 AMThis whole speech is a fav quote:

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Part 2:

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Faved and thumbed-up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 22, 2011, 03:43:45 PM
"The best way to run a country would be benevolent dictatorship. There's a problem, though, and that is that dictators are never benevolent, and the benevolent do not wish to dictate." --Richard "The Dick" Coughlan, in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0MWY6Aacs)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on February 22, 2011, 07:11:48 PM
For being a dick and a emo whore he says some frightfully sensible things.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 22, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 22, 2011, 03:43:45 PM
"The best way to run a country would be benevolent dictatorship. There's a problem, though, and that is that dictators are never benevolent, and the benevolent do not wish to dictate." --Richard "The Dick" Coughlan, in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0MWY6Aacs)

Not so sure about that.  I think Jacob Spinney's "The state is not great" video made a good case for how even if you did elect incorruptible angels who wanted nothing but what was best for everyone, it still wouldn't work because of the calculation problems which inevitably leads to misallocation of resources.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 26, 2011, 10:58:26 AM
[yt]AniIr_sIrRE[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 27, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
"Given that average real IQ scores have increased by at least 24 points since 1900, I think it's safe to say that one of my engineering prof's excuse that, 'well the kids just don't want to learn' is not only nonsense, but outright defamation of character against all the children and parents screwed over by the public school system.
I wonder how he explains the fact that, despite only ~50% of people learning how to read in school, that we have a 97% adult literacy rate in the USA?  If children really didn't want to learn, those numbers would be about equal." --Me, in an AIM session with Lord T Hawkeye this morning.

I do have my moments, sometimes. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 27, 2011, 09:59:30 PM
"Nobody is born aggressive, although aggressive behavior is the easiest behavior to learn." --My Sociology Professor.
To be fair, he does have his lucid moments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 01, 2011, 09:44:14 AM
"But you see Jacob, the Venus Project will work, because in a Venus Project society resources really are unlimited! Your metaphor would only be correct if on my deserted island there was also an army of magical robots!" --Stargazer5781, a comment on this video:  [yt]CLSxITH-1tE[/yt]

Jacob got a laugh out of it, I got a giggle out of it, I'm sure some people here will like it too. :)

Also, check out the other comments left by eagleeye1975, and stargazer5781.
They'll crack you up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 01, 2011, 09:43:59 PM
"This isn't a bill for health care, let's get to the friggin' action already!" --Spoony (I think):  Source (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/11343-alone)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2011, 06:12:38 AM
I had to include this classic by Harry Browne:

"Some people say I go too far in wanting to cut the government. They say I want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. But here's what they don't understand: It's Rosemary's baby." -- Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2011, 06:14:59 AM
"Today, in tribute to our departed friend, we present a very slightly modified version of Harry Browne's final column. With Pamela Browne's permission, we present this example of Harry's style because it says so much of what we believe, in such a simple, clear, and brief way. We've titled it, 'Why You're a DC Downsizer.'

You're a DC Downsizer because you abhor violence . . .

When a neighbor isn't willing to contribute as much to a social project as you are, you'd never think of:

Using a gun to force him to contribute;

Hiring an armed gang to threaten to kidnap him or confiscate his money if he didn't contribute;

Using the government in place of the armed gang if he didn't contribute -- because every government program, in the final analysis, involves violence against those who don't comply.

If two people have agreed to engage in voluntary behavior between them, with no violence involved, you'd never think of:

Using a gun to stop them;

Hiring an armed gang to threaten to kidnap them if they didn't stop;

Using the government in place of the armed gang to stop them.

If a company and an individual have agreed to engage in voluntary behavior between them, with no violence involved, you'd never think of:

Using a gun to stop them;

Hiring an armed gang to threaten to kidnap them if they didn't stop;

Using the government in place of the armed gang to stop them.

If a foreign government is not attacking America, you'd never support the idea of initiating violence against the foreign country.

As one who abhors violence, you're willing to tolerate anything that's peaceful, and you practice the principle of live and let live -- opposing the initiation of force (violence) against anyone for any purpose.

That's why you're a DC Downsizer."

We miss you, Harry.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 02, 2011, 05:17:42 PM
"So what is government? Very simply, it is an agency of coercion. Of course, there are other agencies of coercion, such as the Mafia. So to be more precise, government is the agency of coercion that has flags in front of its offices." —Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2011, 10:29:11 PM
The Fight against Intellectual Property by Jacob H. Huebert (http://mises.org/daily/5025)

This article is really something else.  It uses philosophy & moral arguments, takes into account the arguments of the opposition, practical analysis, historical evidence/precedence, references to other good books, is heavily sourced, etc.
Simply put, it's the best article on Intellectual Monopoly since "The Fallacy of Intellectual Property" by Daniel Krawisz.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 04, 2011, 12:05:00 AM
Another gem from the original Austrian Economist, Ludwig von Mises: "European totalitarianism is an upshot of bureaucracys['] preeminence in the field of education. The universities paved the way for the dictators." - Bureaucracy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 04, 2011, 12:13:15 AM
And not to be outdone is Krugman's Austrian detractor, Robert P. Murphy: "One of the biggest problems in the social sciences is that we can't run controlled experiments. That's why Keynesians and Austrians can cling to such vastly different policy conclusions, despite decades of experience and mounds of data. Just because unemployment "unexpectedly" shot way up after passage of the Obama stimulus package, doesn't mean it was a bad idea. The Keynesians are right: it's possible that unemployment would have been even worse in the absence of massive deficit spending. This is why it's so important to have sound theoretical views, which we then use to sift the data and make sense of things.

Paul Krugman's recent blog posts on state-level unemployment show just how easy it is for economists to protect their views from counterevidence. There are always arguments floating about that can take empirical evidence that was initially a liability and flip it around into a strength." --Conclusion of this article (http://mises.org/daily/5086)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 04, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2011, 12:15:59 PM
Lots of great quotes from Princess Bride!

"You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles." --Miracle Max
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2011, 01:47:46 PM
[yt]QG4jhlPLVVs[/yt]

Classic. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2011, 02:18:02 PM
From Shane's website:  "Cigars killed my Uncle Phil / We knew someday they'd get him / He bent over in the street to pick one up / And a bus drove by and hit him" —Mike Cross

For making me giggle.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
"I failed to find, although I was eagerly looking for it — that bitter struggle for the means of existence, among animals belonging to the same species, which was considered by most Darwinists (though not always by Darwin himself) as the dominant characteristic of struggle for life and the main factor of evolution. [What I saw instead was] Mutual Aid and Mutual Support carried on to an extent which made me suspect in it a feature of the greatest importance for the maintenance of life, the preservation of each species, and its further evolution.

[I concluded that] life in societies enables the feeblest animals, the feeblest birds, and the feeblest mammals to resist, or to protect themselves from the most terrible birds and beasts of prey; it permits longevity; it enables the species to rear its progeny with the least waste of energy and to maintain its numbers albeit a very slow birth-rate; it enables the gregarious animals to migrate in search of new abodes. Therefore, while fully admitting that force, swiftness, protective colors, cunningness, and endurance to hunger and cold, which are mentioned by Darwin and Wallace, are so many qualities making the individual or the species the fittest under certain circumstances, we maintain that under any circumstances sociability is the greatest advantage in the struggle for life. Those species which willingly abandon it are doomed to decay; while those animals which know best how to combine have the greatest chance of survival and of further evolution, although they may be inferior to others in each of the faculties enumerated by Darwin and Wallace, except the intellectual faculty." --Peter Kropotkin, source (http://mises.org/daily/5071)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 06, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 06, 2011, 02:18:02 PM
From Shane's website:  "Cigars killed my Uncle Phil / We knew someday they'd get him / He bent over in the street to pick one up / And a bus drove by and hit him" —Mike Cross

So if you smoke or dip or chew / You'd better get your fill / 'Cause if tobacco don't get you / An anti-smoker will
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2011, 03:57:38 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 06, 2011, 03:47:32 PMSo if you smoke or dip or chew / You'd better get your fill / 'Cause if tobacco don't get you / An anti-smoker will
True dat.
ALL HAIL THE NANNY STATE! ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
This article is chock full of Fav Quotes:  Taxpayers in Revolt by Doug French (http://mises.org/daily/5068)
I would especially recommend reading the whole thing if you're feeling down.  It's very empowering. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 07, 2011, 01:10:35 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 07, 2011, 03:32:39 PM
"Next time someone tells you that a certain collective goal can't be reached unless you get everyone's participation, tell him that unless you can get everyone's voluntary participation that goal had jolly well better remain unfulfilled because human lives are not yours to dispose of." --Ayn Rand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OvL1_89QDs)

And the highest rated comment on that video, slightly modified by me:  "@Aurini Not at all. If a slave accepts a meal from his master, does he thus condone slavery? If you go to the state run hospital, it's not because you chose them because as you said, all other options were cut off.

In simplest terms: [duress] =/= consent" --Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 08, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
"Government doesn't produce anything!" -- My econ professor, believe it or not

I have no other words. O_O
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 08, 2011, 07:04:57 PM
"The more historical research I read and the more I contrast what economists write with what non[-]economists write, the more I am convinced that the bulk of history and biography should be redone." --Art Carden (http://mises.org/daily/5074/Hamiltons-Curse)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 09, 2011, 11:21:43 AM
"[I]f licensing is so important in order to guarantee competent and qualified service providers, shouldn't we, in the same vein, require all politicians to go through years of training in the areas of philosophy, history, economics (including free-market economics), industrial production, accounting, and management before they are permitted to pass laws that affect the economy and our lives? Shouldn't they be licensed?" --Kel Kelly (http://mises.org/daily/5066)

EDIT: Fixed BBCode error. --MrB
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 09, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." —Friedrich Nietzsche
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 09, 2011, 05:19:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 09, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
“The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.” —Friedrich Nietzsche

That one was awesome!
I saw Stefan Molyneux quote that one on his video on reason, culture and madness.

Also, my bad, I guess I forgot to use the preview button on my last post. >_<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 09, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
"'Collectivist ethics' is an oxymoron." --Yours Truly, inspired by this video's title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OvL1_89QDs)

I do have my moments. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 10, 2011, 08:51:54 PM
"...Where we part ways is that is that you—like most of the people in the country—grew up assuming its [the Social Contract's] legitimacy and moral superiority, and never bothered to question it.  Go back 200 years ago, you'd have defended slavery.  And go back 400 [years] and you'd have defended the absolute monarchy." --GunCriminal, 14:10 to the very end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_B-sDrKmWQ)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2011, 06:22:51 PM
"The education system is a joke, and college is one of the biggest scams in American history." --KillerCracker69, highest rated comment on this video as of this posting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AniIr_sIrRE)

Even worse, is barriers to entry making it so you *need* a college education to get into so many professions you could, and should, be able to just work your way up in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 12, 2011, 02:42:01 AM
What Is Prejudice? by Ben O'Neill (http://mises.org/daily/5090)

This will make you think.  It sure got me thinking.  I also love the critique of what seems to be the predecessor of FlowCell's more recent posts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 12, 2011, 07:36:14 PM
The following is from Stefan Molyneux.
It's called, "How to Win Political Arguments in Two Minutes or Less"

"STATIST: I support [FILL IN THE BLANK, e.g. the Surge, Welfare, the War on Drugs, Homeland Security etc. etc.].

YOU: I respect and acknowledge your right to support that program. I encourage you to support it economically (E.g. "You likey the surge? No problem. Take out your checkbook and write a check to Donnie Rumsfeld"). Will you afford me the same respect and courtesy I am giving you? Am I free to disagree with you?

STATIST: Er, yes? (What else are they going to say?)

YOU: Am I allowed to ACT on that disagreement? (Logically, free people must be able to act on their decisions, otherwise it is an illusory right, for example, having the right to free press but not the right to type anything.) Am I allowed to act on my belief without the initiation of force against me?

STATIST: Er, yes?

YOU: So, you agree that I'm allowed to disagree with you. And you agree that I'm free to act on that disagreement, just as you are free to act on your beliefs, so, by way of example, if I don't likey the surge, am I free to not to write a check and not to economically support the surge?"

Wonderful. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 13, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
"If they can get you to ask the wrong questions, then it doesn't matter what the answers are." --Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow

That should be a skeptic's mantra, up there with "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2011, 01:23:25 AM
That is until the anti-skeptics start blowing it off as, "a cliché".

More epic win from Ludwig von Mises: "The characteristic feature of militarism is not the fact that a nation has a powerful army or navy. It is the paramount role assigned to the army within the political structure. Even in peacetime the army is supreme; it is the predominant factor in political life. The subjects must obey the government as soldiers must obey their superiors. Within a militarist community there is no freedom; there are only obedience and discipline." - Omnipotent Government

A quote worth showing to every political dogmatist who tries to accuse libertarians of being "republicans/conservatives".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2011, 01:37:37 AM
"Men have the right to use physical force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use. The ethical problem is simple and clear-cut: it is the difference between murder and self-defense." --Ayn Rand

What can I say?  She does have her moments. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 15, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
"Fascism, Communism, Hitlerism, Stalinism, are all essentially the same thing. Their superficial differences amount to nothing more than catchwords and claptrap." --Albert Jay Nock (http://mises.org/daily/5030)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 15, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "What is called the American way of life is the result of the fact that the United States has put fewer obstacles in the way of saving and capital accumulation than in other nations." - Planning for Freedom
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 15, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
"Animals aren’t people. They are things – property. They have no rights. There is nothing immoral about killing and eating them. Comparing free use of property to abuses of people is offensive." --MaineShark (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2011/02/23/vegan-diet-2/) (italics added by me)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 16, 2011, 02:50:57 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 15, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
"Animals aren't people. They are things – property. They have no rights. There is nothing immoral about killing and eating them. Comparing free use of property to abuses of people is offensive." --MaineShark (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2011/02/23/vegan-diet-2/) (italics added by me)

Of course he fully ignores that people are animals too...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 16, 2011, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 16, 2011, 02:50:57 AMOf course he fully ignores that people are animals too...

He's going by the colloquial usage, which excludes humans. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 16, 2011, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 16, 2011, 12:57:46 PM
He's going by the colloquial usage, which excludes humans. :P

That fascist peeeg!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 17, 2011, 05:24:52 PM
I recall Rothbard talking of patents and copyrights in a free market (not a fav quote, just context for the true fav quote):
"Rothbard justified patents of a sort on similar grounds. If Smith sells Jones a new kind of vacuum cleaner and marks it "patented" (or, as Rothbard would have it, "copyright"), that tells Jones that he is only receiving the right to the physical object, not the right to make copies of it. The patent/copyright creates a contractual limitation, just as in the copyright context." --Source (http://mises.org/daily/5025)


I will personally adore Dale Everett's response to that idea:

"'(which you don’t have if the license for the album you bought explicity binds you to not doing so)' -James
'Ignorance of the law contract is no excuse!' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat)

I’d get a signature on that contract if you want that to hold up in the eyes of any reasonable third party arbiter, but even if you do, good luck figuring out which contracted purchaser released the first copy to a bunch of people online who signed no contract so you can try to enforce that contract. You apparently believe in mystical contracts that are attached to bits of electricity and bind themselves automatically to people who come into contact with them absent any explicit agreement.

'And it is so unused you don’t even notice/no harm comes to you.' -James
If that’s really the case, though it seems like quite a reach, a lot of reasonable people would say that constitutes abandonment. Generally speaking, theft equates directly to harm. If you labored to obtain property, then theft of that property is retroactive enslavement. If someone has absolutely no concern whatsoever for a piece of their property, then they’ve effectively abandoned it. It’s like someone picking items out of your garbage on the side of the road.

Nothing you’ve said has provided any logical reason to support this special notion of property (i.e. IP) that makes copying it theft when it’s not theft to copy any other kind of property." --Source (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/10/07/the-trouble-with-selling-tribbles/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 17, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
It's not that big a thing; this is how trade secret laws work. The person who revealed the trade secret can be prosecuted, but no one who got the info from that person can.

Of course, the "contracts" that come with online music aren't even as clear or as binding as a EULA.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 17, 2011, 06:28:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 17, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
It's not that big a thing; this is how trade secret laws work. The person who revealed the trade secret can be prosecuted, but no one who got the info from that person can.

Of course, the "contracts" that come with online music aren't even as clear or as binding as a EULA.
And EULAs aren't exactly the most parse-able things themselves.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 17, 2011, 06:30:21 PM
And on a much lighter note: 

"Just because I don't have a life, doesn't mean I don't deserve to live"--[yt]B4De1ZuuCjE[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 17, 2011, 09:05:43 PM
[yt]XhzdKQT-h4Y[/yt]

Very good video. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 18, 2011, 02:16:37 AM
"Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence." --George Washington
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 19, 2011, 01:22:35 PM
For those wondering where me and especially Lord T Hawkeye are coming from with religion, especially the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions, wonder no more!

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Bonus video (also a win quote):  [yt]zdiD5iC3rno[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2011, 02:03:23 AM
[yt]VFvJzwEcJoY[/yt]

0:55 - True dat.  As Shane always says, "ALL CREATIONISTS ARE LIARS!" (also a fav quote).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
"Your emotions can also be signals that it's time to re-examine your existing values. Perhaps they're alerting you that you've inadvertently moved away from your own best interests." --Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2011, 11:38:25 PM
"No one has ever talked himself (or anyone else) out of an undesired emotion by hurling insults or by delivering a moral lecture." —Nathaniel Branden
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2011, 03:57:23 AM
"Freedom comes only from seeing the ignorance of your critics and discovering the emptiness of their virtue." —DAVID SEABURY

"Volumes might be written upon the impiety of the pious." —HERBERT SPENCER
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2011, 04:13:52 AM
"When you decide to take matters into your own hands, someone may ask you, 'Who do you think you are? Who are you to decide for yourself in the face of society and centuries of moral teachings?'  The answer is simple: You are you, the person who will live with the consequences of what you do. No one else can be responsible, because no one else will experience the consequences of your actions as you will.  If you're wrong, you will suffer for it. If you're right, you will find happiness. You have to be the one to decide.  'Who are you to know?' It's your future at stake. You have to know." —Harry Browne How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 23, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
"Whether you like President Obama or not is not the question. The question is: if you like the Constitution more." - Dennis Kucinich
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 23, 2011, 11:50:08 PM
Any time Dennis Kucinich is the voice of reason, you know you're REALLY screwed - Nick Galespi

Couldn't resist.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 26, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 28, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
To be fair, I don't know the guy who made that video but he does come across as at least a big douchebag as he makes Vogter out to be.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 28, 2011, 10:25:04 AM
 Because?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 28, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Welllll, if you put me on the spot like this....
What got to me is how he went on how he kept Vogter around because he was usefull to him, which kind of made his sound like someone who's willing to keep up friendly term on false , what's the word, pretense?, just because it furthers his own agenda. I mean I don't like Vogter, but the guy making the video makes it to me like choosing between a cesspool and a dung heap.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 28, 2011, 11:47:51 AM
Meh, doesn't sound like anything you and me don't do already in our daily lives.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
Pat Condell is back on form!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 01, 2011, 06:25:39 AM
"I was happy to see that Newt Gingrich has staked out a position on the war, a position, or two, or maybe three. I don't know. I think he has more war positions than he's had wives." --Rand Paul
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2011, 10:17:54 AM
"1800 Humans know slaves can't be free because there is no history of it working

1900 Humans know machines can't fly because there is no history of it working

2000 Humans know anarcho-capitalism won't work because there is no history of it working.

'there is no history of it working.' is a really lousy predictor of the future." --jeffiek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlyZLHL00g)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 01, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
"The spirit of 1776 is not dead. It has only been slumbering. The body of the American people is substantially republican. But their virtuous feelings have been played on by some fact with more fiction; they have been the dupes of artful manoeuvres, and made for a moment to be willing instruments in forging chains for themselves. But time and truth have dissipated the delusion, and opened their eyes...I sincerely join you in abjuring all political connection with every foreign power: and though I cordially wish well to the progress of liberty in all nations, and would for ever give it the weight of our countenance, yet they are not to be touched without contamination, from their other bad principles. Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to T. Lomax, 12 March 1799
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 02, 2011, 01:23:29 PM
"Government is like someone who jumps in front of a parade and then pretends to be leading it." --John Stossel
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
http://mises.org/daily/5171
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2011, 05:09:05 PM
I'm pretty sure I've quoted this before.
But still, as an anarchist, it's pretty freakin' awesome:

You guys should read Native American Anarchism (1932) by Eunice Minette Schuster. This was taken from a book review:

QuoteThe second chapter of this book is devoted to "Anarchism Adolescent - Individualism in the Romantic Period (1812 - 1860)". The author begins by maintaining that the anarchist impulse in this period grew out of colonial Antinominianism and the principle of laissez-faire. The author shows how in particular the writings of Thomas Jefferson combined individualism with agrarianism and thus gave birth to a form of proto-anarchism. Further, the frontier in the West offered a means for those who believed in the principle of individualism to live on their own independently of the State. The author also explains how various impulses arising for example from the philosophy of Rousseau or the Platonic ideal of "Know Thyself" or out of various offshoots of Calvinism came to approximate anarchism. In particular, William Ellery Channing attacked the Puritan idols of New Englanders and thus gave birth to Unitarianism. In New England, Transcendentalists such as Emerson and Thoreau came to embody principles of self-reliance and civil disobedience. Thoreau refused to pay taxes and became an ardent abolitionist. Many of Thoreau's writings could frankly be described as anarchistic, in which he maintained that the government is best which rules not at all and in his opposition to government in general. A second religious offshoot which involved an anarchistic impulse was that of Perfectionism, perhaps best represented by John Humphrey Noyes. It too sought a form of spiritual anarchy. In addition, non-resistance came to play an important part in the formation of anarchistic ideas. From Christ's dictum "Resist not evil" sprang many Christian Non-Resistance and Peace Societies. Further, abolitionism became linked with anarchism, though many anarchists were also to see the dilemma in both opposing slavery and maintaining that the South had a right to secede.

Yes so you commie anarchists can eat a dick*. Telling me I'm not a "real" anarchist" Go to hell.

*militant-mike1's words, not mine.

Source:  http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Militant-Mike1/journal/12982669889170550284/Collectivist-Anarchists-
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 08, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
"Those who do not allow them to work are the first to blame free markets." --Description of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xMykrUZto)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2011, 12:40:25 AM
"Government is good at one thing: It knows how to break your legs, hand you a crutch, and say, 'See, if it weren't for the government, you wouldn't be able to walk.'" --Harry Browne

"I say that the Second Amendment doesn't allow for exceptions — or else it would have read that the right 'to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless Congress chooses otherwise.' And because there are no exceptions, I disagree with my fellow panelists who say the existing gun laws should be enforced. Those laws are unconstitutional [and] wrong — because they put you at a disadvantage to armed criminals, to whom the laws are no inconvenience." --Harry Browne

R.I.P. Harry Browne.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 11, 2011, 12:33:03 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 12, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 18, 2011, 03:49:46 AM"In political science and economics the five biggest contradictions are: 'Limited Government', 'Anarcho-Communism/Socialism', 'State Capitalism', 'Libertarian Socialism' and 'Crony Capitalism'" --Me

Some more:  "Moral Statist" & "Statist Intellectual" and "Moral Creationist" & "Creationist Intellectual"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2011, 06:03:06 PM
Pat Condell DEFINITELY back on form!

[yt-43]CqfE2rZVmXE[/yt-43]

"I don't reject Jesus; I reject religion. I'm happy to listen to Jesus all day long, as long as he keeps his mouth shut about religion."

"This is what I reject: not Jesus, but religion and the clerical criminals who run it--the people who Jesus despised as much as I do."

"I am very grateful that so many 'experts' have testified to the definite existence of Hell for my benefit. It's a real weight off my mind! I was beginning to worry that the idea of Hell might be just a cynical ploy to intimidate weak-minded, gullible people into submitting to religious fascism."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
"Law is opinion with a gun." --Second Highest Rated comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jM1xmSeMDE)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2011, 08:32:07 PM
"What Is Economic Growth?

To understand Japan's actual economic growth, we first have to agree on just exactly what economic growth is: it is the production of goods and services. All of our banks, factories, tools, trucks, natural resources, and labor are used almost solely for the ultimate purpose of producing consumer goods — things that we each want and need in our lives in order to stay alive, remain healthy, clothed, and comforted, to enjoy life and to live as well as possible.

An increased standard of living (material well-being, not spiritual or psychological well-being) consists of having more things. The more things we produce — medicines, heaters, sofas, clothes, hammers, sandwiches, suntan lotion, etc. — the better off our lives.

As I will explain below, an economy's growth is not easily or accurately measured with a calculation based on the dollar amount of money spent on goods. Not only are statistical indices like GNP and GDP inaccurate, they are unneeded as far as observing real economic growth. Ordinary citizens in Denmark do not need to compare GDP per capita to know that they live better than ordinary citizens in Somalia. One can simply look around and see what kind of homes, streets, restaurants, grocery stores, and other goods and services are available in each of these countries, and how many hours of labor are needed to acquire these things.

Similarly, in any particular country, one can look around and see whether there are increasing amounts of goods and services over time — i.e., whether there is a positive rate of change of economic growth. The true test of economic growth is whether or not a given amount of physical labor can acquire more goods and services each year." --Kel Kelly (http://mises.org/daily/5170)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
"The very fact that people can call a government central bank, created by Congress, with 7 board members appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, operating under the decree of government creating legal tender, and being exempt from taxes, and free from any competition [']de jure private['] is just completely laughable in itself." --Chris; the first post on that linked thread (http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/8197.aspx)

Never-mind the fact that the banking/finance industry the single most regulated business sector in all of America; even more than health-care!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 19, 2011, 02:27:03 AM
I read that as Baking/finance industry...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 19, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
"Actually, as socialism is the collective, usually by the state, exercise of control over the means of production and fascism does precisely that, setting wages, prices, production, dividends, who one can sell to and who one can buy from, it has been long understood that fascism is, and always has been, a form of socialism. The left/right designation is meaningless in this context as is the fascist assault on OTHER socialists (an act not limited to Nazis).

It's just history." --FletchforFreedom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q98DYXpEHT0)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 19, 2011, 08:01:34 PM
"The Libertarian message in 2012 must be loud, clear, and unequivocal—stop all war! Stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop the war on drugs and alternative lifestyles, stop the war on civil liberties. Stop All War!" —R. Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2011/04/wrights-will-seek-libertarian-presidential-nomination/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 19, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 19, 2011, 08:01:34 PM"The Libertarian message in 2012 must be loud, clear, and unequivocal—stop all war! Stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop the war on drugs and alternative lifestyles, stop the war on civil lierties. Stop All War!" —R. Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2011/04/wrights-will-seek-libertarian-presidential-nomination/)

Awesome quote!
Not only is it true, of the Libertarians, it will also help to dispell that "Libertarians are extremist conservative" hooey that's out there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 19, 2011, 10:10:41 PM
In response to being told, "No, the Socialist Alternative is a pacifist party." by EclecticSceptic (a fail quote, really).

Shane shot back with this bit of anti-bogosity:  "Socialists are pacifists like the Pope is an atheist."

Source: [yt]PaACuHe0oZ8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 20, 2011, 12:20:41 AM
The following are all from here:
http://www.youtube.com/Adlasyn
http://www.youtube.com/HalfBrokenButterfly

"Curiosity may have killed the cat, but indifference killed the civili[z]ation."

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry Thoreau

"Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." - Ayn Rand

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." - Karl Marx

"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it." - Noam Chomsky

"Did you ever contribute anything to the happiness of Mankind?"
"Yes, I myself have been happy!" - John Henry Mackay

"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." - Karl Marx (nothing could be more true in regards to socialism itself)

"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - John Dahlberg-Acton

"Remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, always." - Mahatma Gandhi

"Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a gun begins." - Ayn Rand

"We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." - H.P. Lovecraft

"Every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there, on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam." - Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)

"If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him." - Mikhail Bakunin

"Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps, down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision." - Ayn Rand

"I think it would be a good idea." - Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilisation.

"I am only a child playing on the beach, while vast oceans of truth lie undiscovered before me." - Isaac Newton

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson

"Pacifism is objectively pro fascist. This is elementary common sense" - George Orwell

"Some laws of state aimed at curbing crime are even more criminal." - Friedrich Engels

"Religion ends and philosophy begins, just as alchemy ends and chemistry begins, and astrology ends and astronomy begins." - Richard Dawkins

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot (my favourite quote of all!)

"The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal.
Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.
They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness.
These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted." - Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)

"The initial mystery that attends any journey is how did the traveller reach his starting point in the first place." - Louise Bogan

"Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito," (Vergil Aeneid Book VI) - Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 20, 2011, 12:22:14 AM
I'm still in awe that he managed to milk win quotes out of not just Noam Chomsky but even Karl Marx.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 20, 2011, 01:33:25 AM
Not as surprised as the quote that rocketed me from plus twenty to minus 14 I hope. =P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: CarpeLibertatem on April 21, 2011, 06:51:22 AM
"Some people see the glass half full. Others see it half empty. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be." - George Carlin

Not really relating to any topic but I thought quite witty :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: CarpeLibertatem on April 21, 2011, 07:39:07 AM
"The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." - David Friedman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 21, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
[yt]67dcK5sjHsE[/yt]

Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 21, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19151_5-bad-ideas-humanity-sticking-with-out-habit.html
Best. Cracked. Ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 22, 2011, 07:11:52 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 21, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19151_5-bad-ideas-humanity-sticking-with-out-habit.html
Best. Cracked. Ever.

About number 3 - why do we have to go to school for so long to begin with? School should last half as long, at most. And from then on, let people who are interested in math, or whatever, to specialize in that specifically. Not this generalized bull-crap we have now, that just goes on and on forever.

"Oh, but you might need to know who the president of Turkey was, if you got asked in a TV show or something". Screw you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 22, 2011, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: VectorM on April 22, 2011, 07:11:52 AM
About number 3 - why do we have to go to school for so long to begin with? School should last half as long, at most. And from then on, let people who are interested in math, or whatever, to specialize in that specifically. Not this generalized bull-crap we have now, that just goes on and on forever.

"Oh, but you might need to know who the president of Turkey was, if you got asked in a TV show or something". Screw you.

True, even Fringeelements has speculated that in a free market, school would probably only last about until the person is 12 years old, until they can be taught a trade if they aren't academic material, and for the more academically inclined students, accelerated year round study so that someone who wants to be a doctor can be ready to get a job by age 17.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 22, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
http://mises.org/daily/5227

Jeffrey Tucker = made of win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 23, 2011, 04:14:05 AM
"Eight years involved with the nuclear industry have taught me that when nothing can possible go wrong and every avenue has been covered, then is the time to buy a house on the next continent."

- Terry Prachett
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2011, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: Jacob H. Huebert
Ayn Rand considered the legal protection of a patent or copyright necessary to protect the rights of an idea's creator because of "man's right to the product of his mind." But Rand recognized that ideas couldn't really be treated just like other property. Rights to ordinary property exist in perpetuity — you can pass the property on to your heirs, and they to their heirs, and so on forever. But Rand believed that IP rights could only be recognized for some limited period of time. She could see that if people retained permanent property rights in ideas, this would "paralyze" society as research and innovation would grind to a halt and people would be forced to pay royalties for virtually everything they use to the layabout heirs of long-dead inventors. So Rand recognized that some time limit would have to be established that balanced the inventor's rights with the ability of others to pursue further research.[4] (http://mises.org/daily/5025#note4)

Rand maintained that her philosophy and her views on IP were a product of her moral views on man's rights, so limiting the duration of IP rights to encourage innovation seems uncharacteristically utilitarian. But anyone who believes that IP rights are natural property rights [and/or believes them as a form of property on moral grounds] will have to contend with this difficulty.
(Source of quote (http://mises.org/daily/5025))

Can you image if the people supporting IP on moral grounds actually took IP to the above logical conclusion?
I can already imaging, if we started out with zero patents/copyrights, but with the laws they wanted in place for people to claim patents/copyrights, along with an otherwise free market, the industry would boom at first, causing all the Pro-IP people to go, "Look! See? We NEED IP laws for progress in science and art!"  Then, as the weight of the laws coming bearing down and slowing progress, and people begin to play black market, the slowing of growth would of course be blamed on pirates, as "trespassers" (Notice how they changed it from "thief" to "trespass".  Does that remind you of the name change from Creationism to ID too?) instead of their wholly dated laws, as everyone has to pay royalties for everything long into the future.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 23, 2011, 10:37:19 AM
Like the "Boom and Bust" thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 23, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
I wonder how these people think cavemen ever invented spears and bow/arrows without first inventing IP?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 23, 2011, 11:03:31 AM
But Shane, they would have more incentive to make them, if they did have copyright laws, right? Right?

That's how a good democratic society works, after all.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 23, 2011, 12:25:47 PM
Yeah, I'm sure if they'd copyrighted the wheel, civilization would have taken right off! [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 23, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Yeah, exactly!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 23, 2011, 02:25:27 PM
Especially perpetual copyrights and patents...what do these people honestly think the world would be like if we had to pay the descendants of Grog every time we made something with a wheel?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 23, 2011, 02:25:27 PMEspecially perpetual copyrights and patents...what do these people honestly think the world would be like if we had to pay the descendants of Grog every time we made something with a wheel?

My point exactly:  all research and creative innovation, invention and new art would grind to a halt.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 24, 2011, 04:14:21 AM
Quote from: Jacob H. Huebert
Ludwig von Mises was not concerned with natural rights, so he didn't run into this problem. He simply considered IP necessary to motivate people to create useful books and technological innovations. He wrote in Human Action that it is "unlikely that people would undertake the laborious task of writing" such things as "textbooks, manuals, handbooks, and other nonfiction works," if "everyone were free to reproduce them," and that it is "very probable that technological progress would be seriously retarded" if inventors and those who finance their work could not have a patent's help to recoup their expenses.[5] (http://mises.org/daily/5025#note5)
(Source of quote (http://mises.org/daily/5025))

By Mises' logic on IP, all businesses deserve handouts during their first few years in order to make up the huge fixed cost relative to variable costs that causes the average total cost per unit of output to be so high during the start of a business.  Same logic as IP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 24, 2011, 04:29:39 AM
Dale Everett really hit the nail on the head with IP:

Quote from: Dale Everett
My own views of intellectual property are a bit nuanced.  I definitely don't believe anyone is entitled to damages or restitution because someone copied, not stole, your shit.  In that sense, I'm completely anti-IP.  On the other hand, I believe in the notion of IP in the sense that you can own an idea to the extent that you can "protect it" without violence.  You can either keep it secret or you can do a good enough job of branding it or at least date-stamping it so others will have difficulty claiming it as their own.  That doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to make money off of copies but it might help you to counter that and make the money yourself in a peaceful manner.  I'm also a big fan of people expanding on ideas and making them better.  I think claims of damages for copying are unreasonable and they impede that creative process which many consumers stand to benefit from.  I'm also a big fan of reverse-engineering actual physical products and making your own versions of them, possibly improved or just at a lower price.  Patents are bullshit.  This [the elimination of patents and patent laws] is something else that consumers stand to benefit greatly from.
(Source (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/07/16/guest-comic-by-the-muslim-anarchist/))

In another bit he also points out the absurdity of the utilitarian claim made by many IP proponents of the artist's or inventor's entitlement.  That is, they seem to be under the impression that you have a right to profit from your works.  Makes me wonder if they thought the bailouts were justified.  After all, not giving those failing companies bailouts would have violated their "right" to profit!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
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This video is made of epic win.
Some samples would include the title: "We Don't Need No (Public) Education: Sheldon Richman on the Separation of School and State"
A bit in the beginning:  "It turns out children would be better off without be any education, than they would be with public schools."
Hence why I think the cost of government should be HIGHER than the accounting costs, AND why I think trying to take into account the "benefits" of government when calculating the cost is complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2011, 01:03:34 PM
"I have a gun. Break into my house and threaten my family and you'll find out just how much of a pacifist I am." --Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2011, 01:25:26 PM
"The courts HATE jury nullification, because it means that just one person from the jury can decide that he doesn't like a law. They want to control the law and tell you what rules you should live by. I say TOUGH SHIT. Lets inform everyone about jury nullification to the point where the state becomes powerless to enforce anything, then we can create real, workable, polycentric law." --Fringeelements (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOQIfj2aarc)

Fringeelements may have a screw or two loose, but he does have his moments. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2011, 01:39:24 PM
Another example of him being uncharacteristically lucid:

"This will be a video response to TheAzov; but before getting into it, I just want to say that I don't think people who aggressively advocate for state action are good people.  I really don't.  They're evil people and deserve the worst, and so I have no plans to be kind to them.  I have no plans to stop being 'a dick,' as some have said.  They want to throw me in a cage and probably get raped if I don't go along with their plan [and/or] pay for the things they want, and then say that this brutality is social.  When clearly it is the definition of anti-social.  So no chivalry.  These people want to enslave me, because in their narcissism, they think that they can centrally plan better than the grand nexus of interactions of society." --Fringeelements, this video: from 0:00 to 0:52 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=654Nxou1ygY)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2011, 11:48:06 PM
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Replace the talk of religion with talk of statism.
Replace the talk of interpreting the bible with talk of interpreting the US Constitution.

Then watch the above video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 09:30:01 AM
From FSBlueApocalypse's signature:

(http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/m1-garand-assembly/pictures/ribbon-sticker1.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
"It would've been more accurate had Keynes been killed in the ring, then had his corpse propped up and awarded the heavyweight belt by the members of congress." --FletchforFreedom, his thoughts on this video:  [yt]GTQnarzmTOc[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
Fav quotes from the video itself:

"Creating employment's a straightforward craft / When the nation's at war, and there's a draft / If every worker was staffed in the army and fleet / We'd have full employment—and nothing to eat!"

"The economy's not a car, there's no engine to stall / No expert can fix it, there's no "it" at all / The economy's us, we don't need a mechanic / Put away the wrenches, the economy's organic"

"People aren't chessmen you move on a board / At your whim—their dreams and desires ignored"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 05:44:54 PM
It should go without saying that the video (in particular, F.A. Hayek's lyrics), are also a fav quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
On Jacob Spinney's video response to TheAmazingAtheist's latest video on Ron Paul, I posted a comment saying that I've never seen Stargazer5781 get that irate at a YouTube video before.
Here is SG's response to me:
Quote from: Stargazer5781@vspqbd I did get pretty pissed while I was watching TJ's video, but TJ was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back in a long series of progressives I've been encountering who absolutely refuse to criticize Obama's violent imperialistic policies, or at best say they're "disappointed." Apparently they love the poor so much that blowing up brown children overseas is ok as long as it's not done by a Republican. To ignore murder and make up stories about church and state infuriated me.

The video response Stargazer5781 made:  [yt]16DueNM9ySA[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 29, 2011, 12:38:31 AM
"See this is what annoys me about you new atheists.  The vast majority of you support an authoritarian, paternalist, nanny state and yet you bitch and complain that your rights are being violated because there's a nativity scene in a public park come Christmas time" --Raymond Dundas, transcribed by Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2011, 05:12:55 PM
A classic by Fringeelements:  [yt]tAOjAhwJvWQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
"People who don't want you to think are never your friend." --TheraminTrees, top right of his channel page (http://www.youtube.com/TheraminTrees)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 01, 2011, 12:33:05 PM
"- Mewling about 'freedom of speech' will prompt me to introduce you to its twin brother, 'freedom of association'. In other words, you will be banned." --Guncriminal's 4th channel rule (http://www.youtube.com/Guncriminal)

Honestly, I will never understand how people like kDest (and other statist wankers) consider non-violent social ostracism (i.e. blocking on youtube or banning them from a forum) to be a "violation of the principles of libertarianism."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2011, 04:03:20 PM
"College is a racket." --Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2011, 04:19:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2011, 12:34:02 AM
"Be patient, Grasshopper.
With time comes Goatse." --Gumba Masta (https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=724.msg8048#msg8048)

For making me laugh, naturally.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 03, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
error, delete this
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2011, 03:49:05 PM
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Classic by FA Hayek.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
"Fucking pussies out there killing Osama when the real men are at home watching my little pony [friendship is magic]!" --Eyeball117 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeJ6-gN0eB4)
For making me laugh hard enough to make my day.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2011, 01:14:36 AM
I was actually quite pleased with my (revised) comment on this video:  [yt]ScW-djjpzGY[/yt]


"I always thought--and still think--that the people asking whether or not homosexuality, bi-sexuality and transgenderedness* are choices are putting the horse ahead of the carriage.  Before even asking the question of choice or not a choice, you first have to prove that they are bad/undesirable/immoral/etc. It should go without saying that simply asserting it and/or saying, 'because my religious text says so' does not count as proof."

*The strong overwhelming feelings of not belonging to your biological sex, not any sex-change operations, obviously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on May 05, 2011, 05:46:44 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19169_the-7-most-impressively-lazy-employees-all-time.html

Almost everything is state related. Just amazing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2011, 11:33:37 AM
Quote from: VectorM on May 05, 2011, 05:46:44 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19169_the-7-most-impressively-lazy-employees-all-time.html

Almost everything is state related. Just amazing.

Everything save for the second listed on (the office lady) and (possibly) the crematory service.
Dang.
Makes me wonder if some of the people in Cracked aren't closet libertarians.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 05, 2011, 07:33:22 PM
The funeral industry is heavily corporatized due to licensing and the fact that you can't bury your loved ones yourself.  You MUST go through them.  So they could count maybe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 05, 2011, 07:33:22 PMThe funeral industry is heavily corporatized due to licensing and the fact that you can't bury your loved ones yourself.  You MUST go through them.  So they could count maybe.
Good enough for me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2011, 10:18:27 PM
"@3VOLution3NO If we are made from dust, why is there still dust?" --JennyFarlopez, highest rated comment on this video as of this posting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXY-RfBS8o)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 07, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
"Political leaders in capitalist countries who cheer the collapse of socialism in other countries continue to favor socialist solutions in their own. They know the words, but they have not learned the tune." - Milton Friedman
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
"The day that online [gaming] has a functionality to somehow punch your friends through the internet is the day I begin caring about online gaming." --ChuggaaConroy (http://twitter.com/chuggaaconroy/statuses/66911682307440641)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2011, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 07, 2011, 11:51:28 AM"Political leaders in capitalist countries who cheer the collapse of socialism in other countries continue to favor socialist solutions in their own. They know the words, but they have not learned the tune." - Milton Friedman
Reminds me of a variation I once made of that inspired by James Ostrowski.  I already posted it on this thread, but it basically was pointing out that, despite all of Reagan's talk about communism, he actions betrayed him being more concerned with creating a socialist state at home than stopping the spread of socialism abroad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2011, 04:41:22 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 19, 2009, 12:20:16 PM"Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather...We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before." --John Perry Barlow, A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

The rest of it:  https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
http://mises.org/daily/5269
Very good article. :)
It also points out the inflation being higher thing.

Also in it is a fail quote (that Doug French didn't refute) I will add to the other thread.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 08, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels." - H.L. Mencken
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2011, 05:45:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 08, 2011, 05:37:52 PM"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending  scoundrels." - H.L. Mencken

Not as big of scoundrels being defended as those defending the state.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2011, 09:29:12 PM
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." --Benjamin Franklin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 09, 2011, 08:11:16 AM
"Democracy, alas, is also a form of theology, and shows all the immemorial stigmata. Confronted by uncomfortable facts, it invariably tries to dispose of them by appeals to the highest sentiments of the human heart. An anti-democrat is not merely mistaken; he is also wicked, and the more plausible he is the more wicked he becomes." --H.L Mencken
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2011, 10:36:15 AM
And speaking of democracy:  [yt]YD72St51C8w[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2011, 09:21:22 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Nobody is in a position to decree what should make a fellow man happier." --Human Action
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2011, 11:53:05 PM
"The individuals making up the state would have much to lose (in the short run, at least) from people losing their faith in government.  Just like the individuals making up the church have much to lose (at least in the short run) as people lose faith in gods." --Me during an AIM conversation with Lord T Hawkeye

I have my moments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2011, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 04, 2011, 12:15:59 PMLots of great quotes from Princess Bride!

"You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles." --Miracle Max

And let's not forget this gem:  "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 11, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
"The only thing that Evil needs to conquer, is for good men to do the wrong thing." --Michael Cloud
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 11, 2011, 06:24:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 11, 2011, 05:51:37 PM"The only thing that Evil needs to conquer, is for good men to do the wrong thing." --Michael Cloud

Like support a monopolistic authoritarian government.

An awesome from Virgil0211:  "You have studied history, not economics. The mechanism by which markets work and how people respond to incentives is completely lost upon you, likely due to your inherent need to see anyone who makes more money than you as being inherently evil and less deserving than yourself."  from the comments of Shane's "Are you a libertarian?" video.

Having talked with someone who can't keep his words on topic for more than five seconds and who was a history major, I can definitely relate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 11, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
"Be wary of quotes on the internet; it is difficult to tell which ones are genuine." --Plato

(Also seen attributed to Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Edmund Burke, and Voltaire.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 11, 2011, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 11, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
"Be wary of quotes on the internet; it is difficult to tell which ones are genuine." --Plato

(Also seen attributed to Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Edmund Burke, and Voltaire.)

A quote on the internet, telling us to be weary of quotes on the internet, and attributed to people who died before the internet.  That is just awesome. XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on May 11, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 11, 2011, 06:24:59 PM
Like support a monopolistic authoritarian government.

An awesome from Virgil0211:  "You have studied history, not economics. The mechanism by which markets work and how people respond to incentives is completely lost upon you, likely due to your inherent need to see anyone who makes more money than you as being inherently evil and less deserving than yourself."  from the comments of Shane's "Are you a libertarian?" video.

Having talked with someone who can't keep his words on topic for more than five seconds and who was a history major, I can definitely relate.

D'awww. And here I was, hoping that some of my more scathing commentary would get chosen.

I just realized, I think I'm starting to sound like that food critic from Frasier.

And here's a quote from Star Trek Deep Space 9.

JAKE: Come on, Nog.
NOG: No.
JAKE: Why not?
NOG: It's my money, Jake. If you want to bid at the auction, use your own money.
JAKE: I'm human, I don't have any money.
NOG: It's not my fault that your species decided to abandon currency-based economics in favour of some philosophy of self-enhancement.
JAKE: Hey, watch it. There's nothing wrong with our philosophy. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.
NOG: What does that mean exactly?
JAKE: It means. It means we don't need money.
NOG: Well if you don't need money, then you certainly don't need mine.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2011, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on May 11, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
And here's a quote from Star Trek Deep Space 9.

JAKE: Come on, Nog.
NOG: No.
JAKE: Why not?
NOG: It's my money, Jake. If you want to bid at the auction, use your own money.
JAKE: I'm human, I don't have any money.
NOG: It's not my fault that your species decided to abandon currency-based economics in favour of some philosophy of self-enhancement.
JAKE: Hey, watch it. There's nothing wrong with our philosophy. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.
NOG: What does that mean exactly?
JAKE: It means. It means we don't need money.
NOG: Well if you don't need money, then you certainly don't need mine.
ZING!

A good one:  "Liberty is the mother, not the daughter of order."
Something that every anarcho capitalist believes, or they wouldn't have become anarchists. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
And while I'm at it:  "@eirefrance No, IDIOT. From Da Vinci to Bernoulli, the principles behind heavier-than-air flight had been well-studied and it was known for a FACT that it was an engineering problem, NOT a question of the laws of physics. In fact, you HAVE to have the sound theory before you can even BEGIN implementation.

You have NO leg to stand on here AND YOU KNOW IT. You DELIBERATELY ask for the impossible because you know you can't win any other way." --Shane, in his "Are you a libertarian" video, (emphasis added by me).

Sound theory is something anarcho-capitalists/voluntaryists/etc have in spades; and have had for years.  Same can't be said for statists, they never even got their theory off the ground as far as logical consistency (much less empirical verification) goes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2011, 04:56:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2011, 05:11:01 PM
"The problem with collectivist thinkers is that they presume themselves to occupy a non-existent sociologically analogous 'privileged reference frame' where they can observe social phenomena from an "outside," objective viewpoint, and dictate what 'society' is and what it and its values should be for everyone else. However 'networked' 'we' are, valuation originates in each individual mind and there is no escape from that reality. There is no 'social brain' despite the collectivist desire for it." --deepfriedsammich

To which Guncriminal responded with:  "I've noticed something similar, too, which might explain the repeated use of the various self-exclusion fallacies of collectivists. It's as if the collectivist making a statement is experiencing reality rather like you or I would watch a television screen - where what's going on on the screen has no relation with what's going on in the room the television is in."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 13, 2011, 12:09:03 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-question-youre-not-asking-should-you-go-to-college/

Here's the message overall I'm getting about college, shaped by many sources, in the USA, at least.

If you are going to go into something health care related (especially nursing, biomedical engineering, doctor, etc), go for it.  Assuming you're competent and a hard and honest worker, you'll be fine, maybe even with the debt.
If you're going into something else, but that will still give you a marketable skill set--Non medical engineering, accounting, architecture, etc--go for it, but maybe not take on the debt, just in case, as the economy still somewhat shaky in those areas.
If you're not going into either of those, either stick to a 2 year degree, high school vocational education (read: a trade school or something) or stick to jobs that don't even need that:  save your hard earned money.

You might be wondering why I didn't mention Software Engineering, despite the hot job it's been lately.  Well, I did once hear from an engineering professor that unless you're young and budding and very good at it, you probably shouldn't bother.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 13, 2011, 06:43:00 AM
Another thing to look at is an internship, where you work for free for a period of time to gain experience and work history.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2011, 09:01:46 AM
Indeed.


"Innovators and creative geniuses cannot be reared in schools [much less public schools]. They are precisely the men who defy what the school has taught them."

— Ludwig von Mises, in Human Action


You gotta love Mises.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 14, 2011, 05:27:16 PM
Cand this go into the fav quotes?

http://fukung.net/v/35130/7cc53ebd00025cba5f520aa960c3adb2.png
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2011, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on May 14, 2011, 05:27:16 PM
Cand this go into the fav quotes?

http://fukung.net/v/35130/7cc53ebd00025cba5f520aa960c3adb2.png

"Can't" is the word you're looking for mister Masta. :P

And yes, because that was fucking awesome. :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2011, 10:21:18 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
"So you're suggesting that allowing someone to choose between having a job for lower than MW or unemployment is slavery, as opposed to forcing them into unemployment with no choice at all? Where's the logic in that?" --Fernoe, highest rated comment on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOGezJDF5Sk) as of this posting
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2011, 03:40:21 PM
"I think the vast majority of the 'you're censoring me!' bs is coming from people who haven't quite wrapped their heads around the idea that people who disagree with them have just as much right to speak as they do." --zEropoint68, in this the comments of this video (http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=TJONtBAGuto)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
I also liked the first part too:

"As far as liars, I think you should block on the first lie. Scorched earth for dishonesty and no shit.
There is nothing that can make a liar tell the truth. Nuh Thing."

I would also add that many people throwing that "censorship!" stuff out don't seem aware of freedom of speech's twin brother, freedom of association.
And in some extreme cases seem to think that "freedom of speech" is meant as a positive right, which it isn't.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2011, 02:17:31 PM
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I love it when Stef does videos like this. :)
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 18, 2011, 06:32:06 PM
"I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first. I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark." --Stephen Hawking
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2011, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 18, 2011, 02:17:31 PM
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I love it when Stef does videos like this. :)

The reason for this one?  Because it's nice to see some people finally taking on the psychological aspect of statism.

Another good one:  "There is, in fact, only one solution: the state, the government, the laws must not in any way concern themselves with schooling or education. Public funds must not be used for such purposes. The rearing and instruction of youth must be left entirely to parents and to private associations and institutions."

— Ludwig von Mises, in Liberalism
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 20, 2011, 09:31:43 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_economic_argument.png)

And the mouse-over text: "Not to be confused with 'making money selling this stuff to OTHER people who think it works', which corporate accountants and actuaries have zero problems with."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 22, 2011, 11:38:57 PM
The top rated comments (as of this posting) on this video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x36kWkB1CD0)

"@S0chan I think the non-aggression principle is a great argument. It's contradictory to be opposed to the initiation of violence (outside threats) while at the same time being in favour of the initiation of violence (government)." --Gu3rr1lla

"Anarchy is not a radical view. The notion that government will fix your problems is the radical view. The notion that immoral men or women will not desire political office to attain power is insane" --kroovyandcal
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2011, 11:40:09 AM
Jacob Spinney initiates epic win once again:  [yt]R1LLn4eQjpQ[/yt]
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2011, 01:11:31 AM
http://mises.org/daily/5300
The entire article.
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 28, 2011, 08:10:42 AM
Even just the first line, her proposed tombstone epitaph: "I Lived. I Died. Now Mind Your Own Business."

(Not as awesome as Harry Browne's, though.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 28, 2011, 08:10:42 AM
Even just the first line, her proposed tombstone epitaph: "I Lived. I Died. Now Mind Your Own Business."

(Not as awesome as Harry Browne's, though.)

What's Harry Browne's?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 28, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 28, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
What's Harry Browne's?

"I didn't do everything I wanted to do, I didn't become everything I wanted to be. But because I aimed for the stars, I reached the top of the world."

I thought I'd made that a Fav Quote awhile ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2011, 03:51:32 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 28, 2011, 11:42:48 AM"I didn't do everything I wanted to do, I didn't become everything I wanted to be. But because I aimed for the stars, I reached the top of the world."
That's win. :)

Quote from: MrBogosity on May 28, 2011, 11:42:48 AMI thought I'd made that a Fav Quote awhile ago.
Maybe, but when the thread reaches over 63 pages long of posts, it's really anyone's guess at this point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2011, 03:59:28 AM
Stefan Molyneux definitely has his moments:

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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2011, 04:06:08 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2011, 04:08:21 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 31, 2011, 06:59:11 AM
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it." --Upton Sinclair

[Note: I'm hardly a fan of this guy, but when you've got a good one, you've got a good one]
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 01, 2011, 06:17:38 PM
An oldie but a goodie:

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Post by: MrBogosity on June 01, 2011, 06:21:28 PM
Actually, I do think he got #7 wrong. It should have been: "Economists are more stupid than governments."
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 02, 2011, 06:44:05 AM
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters." --FDR, letter to Luther Steward, 16 August 1937

Geez, if even FDR understood this, what's people's problem today?
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 03, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
After hearing about Indiana ruling on warrentless searches and the supreme court backing it up...

Government is that kid nobody wanted to play with because he'd always change the rules to make sure he always wins - my friend Wraith
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on June 03, 2011, 10:14:56 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on June 03, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
After hearing about Indiana ruling on warrentless searches and the supreme court backing it up...

Government is that kid nobody wanted to play with because he'd always change the rules to make sure he always wins - my friend Wraith

I had a friend who was friends with someone like that once. He also happened to be a socially conservative/economically liberal southern Baptist who claimed I was going to hell because I watched anime and said "damn" (which provided a bit of fun when I tricked him into saying fuck).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
This entire article:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19248_6-uneducated-amateurs-whose-genius-changed-world.html
Especially numbers 4 and 6.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 08, 2011, 06:13:41 PM
"Okay, here it is--the best answer you can have: I don't know. If I did know, I wouldn't tell you. When I DO know, what I know will change, so I won't really know then either. And then it will change again, so I still won't really know. And if, secretly, I'd really known all along, I'd still be telling you I don't know, because everything I said I knew, could be wrong, so I'd never really have known in the first place.

"Quantum security--I don't know AND it's a secret.

"I'm glad I've been able to clarify this for you." --Steven Moffat, on when the 2012 series of Doctor Who will be aired
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2011, 06:40:21 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 08, 2011, 06:13:41 PM
"Okay, here it is--the best answer you can have: I don't know. If I did know, I wouldn't tell you. When I DO know, what I know will change, so I won't really know then either. And then it will change again, so I still won't really know. And if, secretly, I'd really known all along, I'd still be telling you I don't know, because everything I said I knew, could be wrong, so I'd never really have known in the first place.

"Quantum security--I don't know AND it's a secret.

"I'm glad I've been able to clarify this for you." --Steven Moffat, on when the 2012 series of Doctor Who will be aired

Best description of quantum mechanics ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 08, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 08, 2011, 06:40:21 PM
Best description of quantum mechanics ever.

And of econometrics.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 09, 2011, 07:03:27 PM
A rather harsh lecture I sent to Nightmare060 after he blew off all my evidence for the umpteenth time and tried to claim the moral high ground

"The only proper comparison you can make to defend your position is to compare it to what it was like before and you refuse.  Why?  Are afraid you'll turn out to be wrong?  Is your ego really worth more to you than the well being of others who may in fact be getting ripped off by your government whom you refuse to see nothing but the good in despite all evidence?

This is why I say you don't give two shits about sick people.  Just like all the cavemen who defend the state, you care about getting your precious goodies and aren't bothered in the slightest by who gets hurt in the process.  Why else would you harp on insurance companies for denying coverage yet make excuses when your government outright denies care of any kind to people who need it?  How cold can you get?

Look back at your words REALLY carefully.  Your arguments all rely on your government to be incorruptible and if you believe that, you've got some serious balls calling ME naive."
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2011, 09:29:53 PM
"Republicans are all for smaller government...until they get into office. Just like Obama was against the Patriot Act...until he got into office. Whatever party is in power seeks to gain more power while whoever is not in power seeks to keep that power in check...at least until they come into power. It's a vicious circle.
NADER 2012!!!
(oh, I am sooo kidding with that last bit :P )" --MrHoover3000 in the comments of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBavo8IIVCM)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 10, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
"Religion wants life to be a fate worse than death." - Pat Condell.

When he's not being a racist knob and sticks with the problem religion brings, he gives us some good quotes from time to time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2011, 07:56:18 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 10, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
"Religion wants life to be a fate worse than death." - Pat Condell.

When he's not being a racist knob and sticks with the problem religion brings, he gives us some good quotes from time to time.
Islam is not a race, but I still get your point.  It's kind of annoying listening to him blather on about Islam while ignoring the whole military interventionism on the West's part and its role in this and that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 10, 2011, 09:33:06 PM
"If I had never lived, someone else would probably have formulated the principle of determinacy. If Beethoven had never lived, no one would have written Opus 111." --Werner Heisenberg
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 12, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
"If we accept the illusion of group rights, we also accept the legitimacy of tyranny. That is why when it comes to human rights, no number is greater than one." --R. Lee Wrights
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 15, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
"Our politicians, left and right, are, to belabor the metaphor, the wastrel son: they are free to spend, to chase fantasies, and to squander resources, for the resources are not theirs, and there is no penalty for their misuse or loss." --David Mamet
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2011, 02:01:14 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/
John Cheese is really on a roll.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
"College is a racket." --Any sensible person
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 20, 2011, 12:42:24 PM
"It's 'all great men have great women way out in front of them.' Or it SHOULD be." --Steven Moffat
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2011, 02:24:51 PM
(http://files.sharenator.com/if_browsers_were_women_If_browsers_were_women-s569x1250-12173-580.jpg)
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2011, 06:51:28 AM
"ALL free speech is offensive. Speech that is not offensive to anyone doesn't ever have to be defended because no one is opposing it. The only way to have free speech is for people to be offended." --Yours Truly

#2 top-rated comment in this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-types-friend-everyone-needs/
Though #4 is kind of a sore spot for me because I really don't know an engineering people.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 24, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
I got booed for saying this, so it's probably true:

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat a meal. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for life. Teach a man to fish in a public school and he'll only learn one method of fishing that probably doesn't even work."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 24, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
Pretty much every quote by Sheogorath in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, notably in the Shivering Isles expansion. Here is one sample:

Quote"Optimism! How adorable! I love it! Even at the end, you make me laugh. I'm lying. That wasn't funny at all. No matter. Soon you and everyone else will be dead, and I will be left a mad god, ruler of a dead realm. Again."

You can read a few more here:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Sheogorath

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 24, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
I got booed for saying this, so it's probably true:

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat a meal. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for life. Teach a man to fish in a public school and he'll only learn one method of fishing that probably doesn't even work."

True that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 26, 2011, 08:44:47 AM
Win!

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Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on June 29, 2011, 07:54:19 AM
"We shouldn't be asked for our papers"

Response: When you legitimize the state you have ceded all shoulds or should nots. you have ceded control and personal sovereignty. it's like putting a bunch of hungry great whites in an olympic swimming pool, jumping in, and then saying, "they shouldnt have bit me!"

once you create the extortion racket then expect nothing less than for its members to get completely power hungry and out of control.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 29, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
"For me, the most ironic token of that moment in history is the plaque signed by Richard Nixon that Apollo 11 took to the Moon. It reads: 'We came in peace for all mankind.' As the United States was dropping 7.5 megatons of conventional explosives on small nations in Southeast Asia, we congratulated ourselves on our humanity: We would harm no one on a lifeless rock." --Carl Sagan
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 02, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
This is a great movie for Independence Day, and it's full of fav quotes: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068156/

Adams: I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, that two are called a law firm, and that three or more become a Congress!

Adams: A second flood, a simple famine, plagues of locusts everywhere / Or a cataclysmic earthquake I'd accept with some dispair / But no, you sent us Congress--good God sir, was that fair?

Adams: You've had a whole week! The entire Earth was created in a week!
Jefferson: Someday, you must tell me how you did it.

Adams: This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend SOMEBODY!

Adams: I won't be in the history books anyway, only you. Franklin did this and Franklin did that and Franklin did some other damn thing. Franklin smote the ground and out sprang George Washington, fully grown and on his horse. Franklin then electrified him with his miraculous lightning rod and the three of them--Franklin, Washington, and the horse--conducted the entire revolution all by themselves.
Franklin: I like it.

Franklin: A rebellion is always legal in the first person, such as "our rebellion." It is only in the third person--"their rebellion"--that it becomes illegal.

Hancock: Gentlemen, forgive me if I don't join in the merriment, but if we're arrested now, my name is STILL THE ONLY ONE ON THE DAMN THING!

Lee: You've come to the one colony that can get job done: Virginia--the land that gave us our glorious commander in chief, George Washington, will now give the Congress its proposal on independence. And where Virginia proposes, the south is bound to follow. And where the south goes, the middle colonies go! Gentlemen, a salute to Virginia, the mother of American independence!
Adams: Incredible--we're free and he hasn't even left yet!

Adams: How long is this piddling to go on? We have been here for three solid days! We have endured, by my count, more than eighty-five separate changes and the removal of close to four hundred words. Now, would you whip it and beat it 'til you break its spirit? I tell you, that document is a masterful expression of the American mind!

Rutledge: Mr. Adams, once we achieve independence, who do you propose would rule in South Carolina?
Adams: The people, of course.
Rutledge: Which people, sir? The people of South Carolina, or the people of Massachusetts?

Franklin: Never was such a valuable possession so stupidly and recklessly managed, than this entire continent by the British crown. Our industry discouraged, our resources pillaged...worst of all, our very character stifled. We've spawned a new race here, Mr. Dickinson: rougher, simpler, more violent, more enterprising, less refined. We're a new nationality. We require a new nation.

Hall: Mr. President, Georgia seems to be split right down the middle on this issue: the people are against it, and I'm for it.

Rutledge: Mr. Adams is now calling our black slaves "Americans!" Are they, now?
Adams: Yes, they are: they're people, and they're here. If there's any other requirement, I haven't heard it.
Rutledge: They are here, yes, but they are not people sir, they are property.
Jefferson: No, sir they are people who are being TREATED as property!

Franklin: [to Adams, on the slavery issue] The issue here is independence! Perhaps you've forgotten that fact, but I have not! How DARE you jeopardize our cause when we've come so far! These men, no matter how much we may disagree with them, are not ribbon clerks to be ordered about! They're proud, accomplished men, the cream of their colonies. And whether you like it or not, they and the people they represent will be part of this new nation that you hope to create! Now, either learn how to live with them, or pack up and go home! In any case, stop acting like a Boston fishwife.

Adams: Mark me, Franklin: if we give in on this issue [slavery], posterity will never forgive us.
Franklin: That's probably true, but we won't hear a thing. We'll be long gone. Besides, what would posterity think we were? Demigods? We're men, no more no less, trying to get a nation started against greater odds than a more generous God would have allowed. First things first, John: Independence, America. If we don't secure that, what difference will the rest make?

Adams: I see fireworks / I see the pageant and pomp and parade / I hear the bells ringing out / I hear the cannons roar / I see Americans--ALL Americans free / Forever more

LOTS of others that I'll probably think of later...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 03, 2011, 08:06:27 PM
"He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them to slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportations thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN King of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distiguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms against us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another."

--Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence (removed at the insistence of South Carolina delegates)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 04, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
"In addition to legal rights, many same-sex couples seek formal state 'recognition' of their marriages.  Opponents fear this would tarnish state recognition of theirs. To both sides, I ask, do you really want your marriage blessed by the government? I'd sooner have mine blessed by the Keystone Kops." --Richard Maybury
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 05, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19317_7-pieces-good-news-nobody-reporting.html
:)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 05, 2011, 09:13:43 PM
"The lesser of two evils is still evil, and the enemy of my enemy does not make him my friend." - Penn Jillette

One of his better quotes from an episode of Bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 06, 2011, 12:51:35 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19283_7-ancient-forms-mysticism-that-are-recent-inventions.html
I know a guy who's into tarot, and another who's a satanist.  Should they ever bring them up to me, I'll link them to this. ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 07, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
"To say that a bad government must be established for fear of anarchy is really saying that we should kill ourselves for fear of dying." --Richard Henry Lee
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 08, 2011, 11:03:49 AM
Nothing really political or science related, but a great quote none the less.

"I have wined and dined with kings and queens, and I've slept in alleys and dined on pork and beans. I have run the gauntlet. I have done it all and still today The Dream stands tall." - "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes.


I'd also like to throw in the Hard Times promo.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 11, 2011, 06:49:05 PM
"There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." --John Maynard Keynes
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 12, 2011, 10:41:14 AM
This entire article: The Wasted Vote Lie by Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2011/07/the-wasted-vote-lie/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 12, 2011, 11:53:13 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 12, 2011, 10:41:14 AM
This entire article: The Wasted Vote Lie by Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2011/07/the-wasted-vote-lie/)

Great article. Posted it on facebook. Of course it already received one response:

QuoteYeah but it works. Power lies where people believe it to be. It the people perceive power to be in a certain place then that mass perception of power is little different then power itself. The lie has become the truth.

While it is true that any good con can work on the masses, eventually, once you expose it for what it is, people come around and realize that they've been duped the entire time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2011, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: D on July 12, 2011, 11:53:13 AM
Quote
Yeah but it works. Power lies where people believe it to be. It the people perceive power to be in a certain place then that mass perception of power is little different then power itself. The lie has become the truth.

So he believes in the Law of Attraction?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 14, 2011, 05:04:35 PM
I always did like Judge Napolitano.

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Unfortunately though, a lot of Americans DO want to see the debt ceiling raised, not because raising the debt limit is a good thing, but because they were fooled by the scare mongers in the media and in government who told them that if we don't do this then this country would spiral down into economic Armageddon, despite the fact that there isn't a shred of evidence that shows this. What people should realize is that Washington isn't trying to raise the debt ceiling, but rather the spending limit of this country. Increasing this "debt ceiling" is nothing more than a means for which the government can spend as frivolously as they want like they always will.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 15, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2011, 10:34:37 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/41220169/ (Original Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMOAbWcpKQ)) ("The State as Family")
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2011, 10:47:23 PM
Another good one by Lord T Hawkeye:  http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/39445734/ ("Why are you still a statist?")
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2011, 12:12:51 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-question-youre-not-asking-should-you-go-to-college/
Have I posted this already?  If so, my bad.  This is one of the best articles on that entire site.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2011, 10:20:04 AM
In honor of all the talk of raising the government's debt ceiling, I figured I should post this: 
http://mises.org/daily/5000
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 16, 2011, 10:20:23 AM
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I've always liked John Stossel.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 16, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
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This parody of Alex Jones made me lol so god damned hard.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 18, 2011, 09:22:17 AM
FINALLY some sense on this issue:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 18, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
"The problem today is that we don't have much of a national defense. We can't protect this country against any two-bit dictator who gets his hands on a nuclear missile. What we do have is a giant national offense! We have the ability to annihilate any country in the world. We have troops in almost 100 countries of the world as though we were the occupying Roman army. We have bullied other countries into coming to Washington and agreeing to settlements that the President of the United States thinks is good for them. And, of course, we've been bombing countries around the world. It's no wonder that terrorists are trying to attack our country! They don't like our foreign policy. They don't like the idea that we are running their countries, and they want to influence our foreign policy. And the only way they know how to do that is by blowing up the World Trade Center or whatever. If we would simply butt out of other countries' affairs, then other countries would be much less anxious to come over here and try to terrorize us."

--Harry Browne, 3 July 2000 (14 months before 9/11)

How much different would our country be today if he'd been elected?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 18, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
"An essential point in the social philosophy of interventionism is the existence of an inexhaustible fund which can be squeezed forever. The whole system of interventionism collapses when the fountain is drained off: The Santa Clause principle liquidates itself." - Ludwig von Mises

Campaign of Liberty quoting Mises was a nice surprise.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 18, 2011, 03:02:41 PM
Except that I doubt very much Mises misspelled "Santa Claus."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 18, 2011, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 18, 2011, 03:02:41 PM
Except that I doubt very much Mises misspelled "Santa Claus."

Hmm...never caught that. Then again, I've seen it spelled both ways commonly before.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2011, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: D on July 18, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
"An essential point in the social philosophy of interventionism is the existence of an inexhaustible fund which can be squeezed forever. The whole system of interventionism collapses when the fountain is drained off: The Santa Claus principle liquidates itself." - Ludwig von Mises

Campaign of Liberty quoting Mises was a nice surprise.

True that. Thereby observing that the military interventionist conservatives are about as "small government and free market" as Stalin.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 19, 2011, 08:17:33 AM
Matt Dillahunty in drag is WIN--and his opening argument about how people don't fit in boxes is DEFINITELY a Fav Quote:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 19, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 09:15:14 AM
This is REAL patriotism: http://yfrog.com/klz2lqqj

"Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole COUNTRY decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences.

"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world--

"No, YOU move."

--Captain America
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on July 20, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
I've never read any of the Cap's comic books, but i sure as hell am exited about the upcoming movie. Hopefully that one has some of these thrown in there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 20, 2011, 03:39:08 PM
Again, not political or science related, but awesome none the less.

Before the cutting edge promos CM Punk put out a few weeks ago, we had arguably the greatest heel turn promo ever.

This was roughly back in 2005, possibly 2006. CM Punk had just faced Austin Aries for the ROH World Championship and won it after an amazing match. Everyone knew CM Punk would be leaving the company soon so he decided to cut a promo. What started off as a celebration with the fans suddenly turned into the greatest heel turn of all time.

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Here is part of the promo transcribed for you guys:
Quote"This belt, in the hands of any other man, is just a belt. In my hands it becomes power. Just like this microphone, in the hands of any of the boys in the back, is just a microphone. You put it in the hands of a dangerous man like myself and it becomes a pipe bomb. These words that I speak, spoken by anybody else but me are simply words strung together and loosely formed into sentences. What I say I mean and what I mean I say and they become anthems! You see if I could be afforded the time to tell all of you here today a little bit of a story. It's a parable of sorts.

There was once an old man, walking home from work; he was walking in the snow, and he stumbled upon a snake frozen in the ice. He took that snake and he brought it home and he took care of it and he thawed it out and he nursed it back to health. And as soon as that snake was well enough it bit that old man. And as the old man lay there dying he asked the snake, 'Why? I took care of you. I loved you. I saved your life.' And that snake looked that man right in the eye and said, 'You stupid old man. I'm a snake.'

The greatest thing the devil ever did was make you people believe that he didn't exist. And you're looking at him right now. I am the devil himself! And all of you stupid mindless people fell for it!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
The snake story is pure bogosity, by the way. Snakes only bite people when they're threatened.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 20, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
The snake story is pure bogosity, by the way. Snakes only bite people when they're threatened.

To be fair, pro wrestling is pure bogosity. Doesn't stop it from being awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: D on July 20, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
To be fair, pro wrestling is pure bogosity. Doesn't stop it from being awesome.

I know, but I've ALWAYS hated that story. It's used by people as an excuse for passing judgement on others without rational reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 20, 2011, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
I know, but I've ALWAYS hated that story. It's used by people as an excuse for passing judgement on others without rational reason.

Oh....

Really, this promo is the only time I've ever heard the story. Didn't know it was a well known story.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 20, 2011, 08:50:55 PM
Lee Wrights is always good for a fav quote: "We should strive to see no color in others or ourselves. We should be so busy looking inward; we have no time to notice the colors of our skins."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 21, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
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"Many rightly worry about corporate monopolies, but the biggest monopoly on Earth is the United States government." - Jack Hunter
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_16852_5-government-programs-that-backfired-horrifically.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_17216_the-5-most-popular-safety-laws-that-dont-work.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_18600_6-laws-that-were-great-paper-and-insane-everywhere-else.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on July 22, 2011, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 22, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_16852_5-government-programs-that-backfired-horrifically.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_17216_the-5-most-popular-safety-laws-that-dont-work.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_18600_6-laws-that-were-great-paper-and-insane-everywhere-else.html

Now go and read some of the comments in these 3, for some nice Fail Quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on July 22, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
Seems Nick Gillespie was on Real Time tonight, should be a good source of Fail and Fav quotes
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 22, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on July 22, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
Seems Nick Gillespie was on Real Time tonight, should be a good source of Fail and Fav quotes

They actually had a segment trying to defend socialism, and I don't mean not calling it socialism but it's still socialism anyway. Straight up socialism. I'm not even kidding.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2011, 12:07:21 AM
Quote from: D on July 22, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
They actually had a segment trying to defend socialism, and I don't mean not calling it socialism but it's still socialism anyway. Straight up socialism. I'm not even kidding.
Because clearly the fact that it has failed every single time it has been tried without exception wasn't enough.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2011, 01:39:21 AM
Quote from: VectorM on July 22, 2011, 06:52:44 PMNow go and read some of the comments in these 3, for some nice Fail Quotes.

Alternatively, go here (http://www.youtube.com/SecularNumanist) for some good Fav Quotes (not all are fav's but many are).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 23, 2011, 07:19:57 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 23, 2011, 12:07:21 AM
Because clearly the fact that it has failed every single time it has been tried without exception wasn't enough.

Yeah, they tried to pull off the old, "sacrificing and sharing" bullshit. Nick Gillespie asked Bill Maher if he was willing to sacrifice and share his cars because he doesn't need more than 1. The rest of the panel looked at him with absolute confusion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 24, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
WIN:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 24, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 24, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
WIN:

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My only complaint with that video is the volume is way too low. I had to turn my AC off, put on headphones, and turn the volume up all the way just to be able to barely make out what he was saying. I could be going deaf, but they should still increase the volume at least a little bit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 24, 2011, 08:04:23 PM
Yeah, it was really quiet for me, too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 25, 2011, 07:09:06 AM
Epic Win from our own Lord T Hawkeye:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 25, 2011, 12:10:45 PM
Hey, I was a tad unsatisfied with it.  Thought I was rambling too much.  But then, I tend to be my own worst critic most of the time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 26, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
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"When seconds count, police are just minutes away." - Mark Grannis
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 27, 2011, 02:50:35 PM
[yt]4JA4EPRbWhQ[/yt]  Another case where TJ got it right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 29, 2011, 08:07:19 PM
Me responding to a fail quote

Me: Psh, though they loudly like to proclaim otherwise, governments LOVE communism. Means more power to them. They just don't like OTHER communist governments for the same reason that the Bloods don't like the Crips.

Him: That's some more bullshit, Communism is a social state in which the state has become obsolete, and thus abolished. Learn some.

Me: That's what's promised. That's not what's ever delivered. You see, the people who preach them have this strange habit of always ending up making out like bandits while everyone else winds up worse off in the end.

If you need me to spell it out for you: communism is a scam.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 29, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
"I mean, spend 10 minutes on the phone with an Austrian economist.  It's a 1-900 number, it's the worst phone sex you'll ever have, but you will learn something important."--Stefan Molyneux @7:41 in this video: [yt]Pg5K07c72Tw[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 30, 2011, 01:50:22 AM
Ooh, more and now it really gets nasty

Communist: Rule #12 of anti-Communist conduct:

Claim that Marxism is utopian because of its description of a possible future society. Alternately claim that Marxism failed because it never gave a detailed description of how a Communist society would look. Do not pay attention to the massive contradiction here.


Me: I did nothing of the sort. I pointed out that marxism promises equality and prosperity for all and always delivers the complete opposite and last I checked, appealing to emperical evidence is not a fallacious argument. I don't care what an ideology says, talk is cheap. I care about what it does and what communism has done thus far is both tragic and grotesque.

However, if you still insist your ideology's ultimate goal is to do away with government, riddle me this.

In your communist world, what happens to dissenters? What if I don't want to give up my property for the "Good of the collective"? What happens to me?

If your answer involves taking it by force, congratulations! You're now a government! oops!

If you somehow think you can get people to give up their property voluntarily for the "good of the collective", I fear you'll find yourself sadly disappointed. The problems of the world need to be solved with logic and rationality, not with wishful thinking.

So which is it? Statelessness in name alone? Or the megalomaniacal belief that you can bend all human minds to your way of thinking? Either way, it's pretty sinister as I see it.


Communist: Listen, I already explained to you that I don't deny the necessity of force. In my "Communist world," dissenters don't get to steal communal property- if they don't like what they see, and do not want to live there, they have the right to get the hell out. Property WILL be abolished by force, opposition will be brushed aside, by peaceable means if possible, armed opposition will be liquidated. I never tried to hide this in our first talk, and I will reiterate: coercion is an essential weapon in meeting ANY political or social ends.
Also, not all coercion is the work of a government- some of this coercion, conducted by the political will of the majority, is GOOD coercion. When you utilize force to achieve an end, it doesn't make you a villain, but rather, if the end is worthwhile: a hero. "Good," I mean of course, in the relative sense. Violence is never "good" but using violence to live is better than abandoning violence to die. Likewise, using violence to create a superior order is better than settling for a shitty one that doesn't require violence. Catch my drift?


Me: So let's see, you DO support institutionalized violence (as long as you benefit from it of course) so your claim to support statelessness was a bold faced lie.

You argue that violence is good when done by the political elite yet declare that any opposition should be liquidated which is blatant special pleading and really quite shitty, cult behavior when you get right down it.

Conclusion: you're a self entitled bully who thinks disagreeing with your views is just cause to shoot someone in the head.

Get help, you are not well at all. Arguing that violence to force your views on people is not moral. That's psychotic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 30, 2011, 06:14:30 AM
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I do believe Lord T Hawkeye is on a roll. ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 01, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 02, 2011, 12:18:09 PM
I still love this quote from Torchwood: Children of Earth. Good Science Fiction is always meant to work on different levels; I think RTD wanted us to substitute "God" for "the Doctor."

"There's one thing I always meant to ask Jack, back in the old days. I wanted to know about that Doctor of his, the man who appears out of nowhere and saves the world. Except sometimes he doesn't. All those times in history, when there was no sign of him. I wanted to know why not. But I don't need to ask anymore, I know the answer now. Somtimes the Doctor must look at this planet and turn away in shame."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 02, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
Another great one from Reason.TV:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 02, 2011, 03:51:40 PM
That was a great video. Posted it on Facebook. I'm patiently waiting for the replies.

Nick Gillespie did a hell of a job on Bill Maher's show. ReasonTV were kind enough to put his entire time on the show in one video.
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Pretty much any time one of the other members of the panel and Bill Maher open their mouth, you could move that to fail quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 02, 2011, 05:51:53 PM
Color me shocked. There actually was a point where Bill Maher wasn't an insane socialist fucktard! Speaking of which, Joe Rogan isn't being unbearable either! I wonder when the exact date was that these two turned off their tolerable switches. Actually it kind of makes him look like a hypocrite in the previous video.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mac_pc.png)

Epic win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 06, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 06, 2011, 08:27:35 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 06, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
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I always did like Judge Napolitano.

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"You can't make something illegal for an adult just because it would be harmful for a child, otherwise we would all be living and acting like children." - Judge Napolitano
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 07, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
"So sadly lost in all the political prancing of partisan posturing is the fact that, great or small, voting for evil begets evil. Always has... always will. As long as we continue to vote for the lesser of two evils, evil always wins. Nothing else has a chance to win but evil." --R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 11:16:24 AM
"I am not surprised that Standard & Poor's downgraded the U.S. government's credit rating from AAA to AA+. After all, why should the government have good 'credit' when the politicians who run it have no credibility?" --Jim Babka
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 09, 2011, 11:30:31 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 11:16:24 AM
"I am not surprised that Standard & Poor's downgraded the U.S. government's credit rating from AAA to AA+. After all, why should the government have good 'credit' when the politicians who run it have no credibility?" --Jim Babka

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d168/IronFury51488/fukkensaved-1.png)

A Scottish friend of mine on Facebook had this to say in regards to the riots happening in England:
Quote"The unthinking hypocrisy of this country makes me laugh too though. People are outraged about the destruction in London, but the vast majority still go with the "support the troops" propaganda as they do a million times worse to innocent people overseas for nothing. But I guess it's okay because they wear uniforms and get given orders so can't be held responsible. Plus, people don't have the BBC to tell them that it's abhorrent and wrong, and God forbid that anyone should think for themselves."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 09, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
I heard about the riots in London but wasn't able to read the paper at work due to it being busy.  What were the riots all about?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 09, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 09, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
I heard about the riots in London but wasn't able to read the paper at work due to it being busy.  What were the riots all about?

Initially, the riots were about police shooting and killing a guy who was an alleged gang member, but they had no evidence to support it. They also planted evidence on the guy to say that he fired first. When the town started peaceful protests to get answers from the police, the police didn't do anything. That's how the riots started. Eventually it escalated to the point now where the initial reason behind it was completely lost though. Now people are just rioting for the sake of it at this point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 12:10:49 PM
I saw one very despicable report that said it was due to the same forces that caused the rise of the Tea Party in America, even though the only rioter I saw interviewed said that it was about power to the people and redistributing the wealth, and that he was an anarchist (clearly anarcho-communist).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 09, 2011, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 12:10:49 PM
I saw one very despicable report that said it was due to the same forces that caused the rise of the Tea Party in America, even though the only rioter I saw interviewed said that it was about power to the people and redistributing the wealth, and that he was an anarchist (clearly anarcho-communist).

Yeah, apparently the economic problems in England are part of what inspired the riots as well, but the initial riot was triggered by the police thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 09, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 12:10:49 PM
I saw one very despicable report that said it was due to the same forces that caused the rise of the Tea Party in America, even though the only rioter I saw interviewed said that it was about power to the people and redistributing the wealth, and that he was an anarchist (clearly anarcho-communist).

So in his opinion, they don't redistribute wealth ENOUGH?

Retard....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on August 09, 2011, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: D on August 09, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
Initially, the riots were about police shooting and killing a guy who was an alleged gang member, but they had no evidence to support it. They also planted evidence on the guy to say that he fired first. When the town started peaceful protests to get answers from the police, the police didn't do anything. That's how the riots started. Eventually it escalated to the point now where the initial reason behind it was completely lost though. Now people are just rioting for the sake of it at this point.

If I remember correctly, didn't England institute a strict gun control policy, one so uncompromising that British Olympic shooting competitors had to leave the country to practice, that was supposed to prevent this kind of violence?

Huh... Just.... Huh...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 09, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
Many Brits are proud of their countries strict gun control policy and how they don't have to worry about things like this as a result.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 09:23:16 AM
"The problem with politicians is, when they see the light at the end of the tunnel, they build a longer tunnel." --Glen Murray, Ontario Minister of Innovation
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
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Transcript:

QuoteI have a message for Rick Perry and the American people.

My name is Wes Benedict and I have the honor of serving as Executive Director of the Libertarian National Committee here in Washington, DC. I lived in Texas for fifteen years and voted against Rick Perry for governor both times I had a chance.

Now Rick Perry wants to run for president. I have a message for you, Rick Perry.

Rick Perry, you are a pretender, not a defender of free markets.

You supported Lance Armstrong's 3 billion dollar Texas taxpayer funded medical research center. That's like ObamaCare. That's not free market.

Rick Perry, you secured a 300 million dollar business handout slush fund for you and just the two leaders of the legislature to dole out to whomever you felt like being friendly to. That's corporate welfare, a recipe for corruption, and as bad as the TARP bailouts that caused the Tea Parties to explode all across America. In fact, you gave 20 million dollars to Countrywide Financial which later went bankrupt.

You supported a new state business tax. You set up toll road tax collection booths all over Texas highways. The Austin Tea Party and the Austin Toll Party booed at you on the steps of the state Capitol for that. I was there.

Rick Perry, you signed an executive order forcing young Texas schoolgirls to get the HPV vaccine even if it was against their will -- even if it was against their parents' will -- while your former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck. Rick Perry, your judgment was so bad the Texas legislature revolted against you and overturned your decision.

I want to compliment you in one area. Libertarians like me embrace immigration and welcome people from Mexico and the rest of the world who seek a better life and the blessings of liberty. Compared to most Republicans, you have been pretty open to immigration. I credit you for being friendly to our southern neighbors. Rick Perry, I support amnesty and I think you do too. You supported a guest worker program to help people who would otherwise be illegal aliens.

But I'm concerned about our economy, about job opportunities, and the direction our country has been headed for a long time. Rick Perry, our country is in deep trouble. We don't need another pretender, we need a real defender of liberty.

Rick Perry, I will not vote for you for president.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on August 10, 2011, 05:33:01 PM
Reading the comments to that video, I see alot of "I'm a Libertarian but fuck the immigrants" wow
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 10, 2011, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
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Transcript:

I was gonna post this actually.

He almost came off like he was shooting a wrestling promo.

This guy vs. Rick Perry at Fiscalmania 28!

Someone should make that match in SVR 2011...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
I was inspired to create this by something FlowCell said:

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(http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2011, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
I was inspired to create this by something FlowCell said:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6127/6029407689_45bfe14a80_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)
Saved a copy to my harddrive. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 10, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
I was inspired to create this by something FlowCell said:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6127/6029407689_45bfe14a80_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d168/IronFury51488/fukkensaved-1.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: D on August 10, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d168/IronFury51488/fukkensaved-1.png)
Because I'm a fan of irony (and funny internet images) I simply HAD to save that too. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 11, 2011, 02:21:29 PM
Here is a good comment from the Pat Condell video on the riots:
QuoteThis is the most intellectually lazy video you've put out so far, Pat. You call the rioters all manner of names and say we should take away everything from them, problem solved, QED.

How about this. Instead of Other'ing them like mental midgets of the religious world are prone to do, you try to understand the underlying problems.

I'm not saying what rioters did should be excused, far from it. Punish them appropriately. But calling them names and writing them off solves nothing in society.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on August 11, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 10, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
I was inspired to create this by something FlowCell said:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6127/6029407689_45bfe14a80_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6029407689/)

Why, hello there, my new desktop background!

Another fave quote from Flowcell:

"Government, if it emerged from anything, emerged from a state of nature, not a free market. If you are a priest king living in the ancient world, you got all the women and had money so spend since giving you money somehow appeased the gods, so why support a free market when you live the good life?

I'd have a lot more money today if I had invested it instead of giving it away to a Church when I was younger. Church and State are the evil twins born out of Theocracy."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 12, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
"If government is the answer, it was a stupid question." --A bumper sticker I just saw
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2011, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 12, 2011, 02:56:59 PM"If government is the answer, it was a stupid question." --A bumper sticker I just saw

Awesome bumper sticker. :)

Here's a possible one I once saw:  "If you can read this, I'm not impressed.  Most people can read."  though it was from a pic I saw on the internet.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 12, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Damn! When Rand Paul has his game on, he has it ON!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 12, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 12, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Damn! When Rand Paul has his game on, he has it ON!

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DAAAYUUUM!!!

Shame he can't be this good all the time though. My head still hurts thinking about that idiocy he spewed on that podcast.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 13, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 13, 2011, 07:52:59 PM
T-shirt I saw at work today: Don't steal.  The government hates the competition.

This one from my all time fav video game, Persona 4.

People can't live alone, if you give in and sever your ties to human society, it will naturally be harder to live in it.  Yet you refuse to face life and admit your fault, running from your own humanity like a coward!  And though you claim to find life troublesome, you caused nothing but trouble for many others!  Your twisted logic is that of an immature, egocentric brat! - Naoto in response to the villain's speech.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 13, 2011, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 13, 2011, 07:52:59 PM
T-shirt I saw at work today: Don't steal.  The government hates the competition.

Ron Paul has that on a placard in his Congressional office. Wouldn't it be great to tune in to a speech from the Oval Office and see that on President Paul's desk?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 13, 2011, 07:52:59 PM
This one from my all time fav video game, Persona 4.

People can't live alone, if you give in and sever your ties to human society, it will naturally be harder to live in it.  Yet you refuse to face life and admit your fault, running from your own humanity like a coward!  And though you claim to find life troublesome, you caused nothing but trouble for many others!  Your twisted logic is that of an immature, egocentric brat! - Naoto in response to the villain's speech.

It would be a better quote for me if I didn't hear constant similar stuff from statists (e.g. Vogter2100) saying that, as libertarians, we hate civilization because we hate taxation (seriously), and from Thunderf00t saying that we libertarians "are forgetting that humans are a social species".  Again, I wish I was making those up...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 14, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
Except those arguments actually work against them, not for them, if only they stopped for 20 seconds and seriously thought about it.  Humans are social animals and that's why we have to point guns at them to make them cooperate?  Of course nobody would understand that!  It makes no sense!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on August 15, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
Today, the win quotes (with mild sprinklings of fail) come to us from the unexpected source of theelmoisevil (I know he does that fucked up some caps some not thingy, but whatever.)

On FSAthe1st's latest video, he had this to say.

"My vote does not carry the weight of a Lobbyists Check. So yes... pretty useless actually. Especially considering human beings can "lie". Would you imagine that... someone lying to get elected. And it is not like that is the exception to the rule. In fact politcians lie continually. And even when caught they continue to lie. Widespread corruption is also well documented. So what is this "vote" you speak of?"

"You don't even stand a chance intellectually so you ban people. You're feeding on people's fears in your videos. Fears of losing the security afforded to them by the state ignoring that one can achieve all of the security afforded by the state utilizing non-authoritarian voluntary means (a form of anarcho-collectivism). A total False Dichotomy you present in your videos. Either you're aware of this and being purposefully misleading (lying) or you're simply ignorant."

(Fail in red, but I think you'll understand my reasons for posting this here.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 15, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 15, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
But something bothers me.  If the state (e.g. my econ professor) really believed that things like roads and water ways cannot be provided by the private (peaceful) market, why does the government have to outright prohibit competition to its own "services"?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 15, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 15, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
But something bothers me.  If the state (e.g. my econ professor) really believed that things like roads and water ways cannot be provided by the private (peaceful) market, why does the government have to outright prohibit competition to its own "services"?

Something I've asked many, many times, and never gotten a single answer for.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 16, 2011, 08:39:16 AM
Jon Stewart NAILS it! http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?xrs=share_copy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2011, 08:50:02 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 16, 2011, 08:39:16 AM
Jon Stewart NAILS it! http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier?xrs=share_copy

The media ignoring Ron is nothing new, but at least someone who gets a large audience is pointing out how blatant it is.

This was blatantly obvious in the 2008 elections as well, and honestly, I find this to be one of the main reasons why Ron didn't win the Republican nomination in the first place.

Also, saw this in my email from DownsizeDC.org:
"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone." Frederic Bastiat
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on August 16, 2011, 10:35:50 AM
You know, as much as people want to give flak about Stewart for being liberal I think he has a bit of a Libertarian streak in him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2011, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on August 16, 2011, 10:35:50 AM
You know, as much as people want to give flak about Stewart for being liberal I think he has a bit of a Libertarian streak in him.

He can be at times. Hell, I've even seen Bill Maher with a bit of Libertarian in him at least when talking about Ron Paul...then again he shuts that all off the second he doesn't mention him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
From the Penn Jillette article I just posted:

"It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
"The difference between an addiction to heroin and an addiction to statism is that statism kills more people and is harder to cure." --Michael Shanklin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 19, 2011, 05:18:43 AM
Quote from: D on August 16, 2011, 10:41:02 AM
He can be at times. Hell, I've even seen Bill Maher with a bit of Libertarian in him at least when talking about Ron Paul...then again he shuts that all off the second he doesn't mention him.

We all are many people to many thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 19, 2011, 09:24:19 AM
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Love the sarcasm here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 19, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: D on August 19, 2011, 09:24:19 AM
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Love the sarcasm here.

Wow, that was a veritable deluge of sarcasitrons!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 19, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 19, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
Wow, that was a veritable deluge of sarcasitrons!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2011, 10:18:26 AM
Quote from: D on August 19, 2011, 09:24:19 AM[yt]MGNahtIpCwY[/yt]  Love the sarcasm here.

He also made a video before that on the same topic with even MORE sarcasm. :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 19, 2011, 10:32:59 AM
Yeah, I could have sworn I was subscribed to him, but YouTube says I wasn't. I know human memory is flaky, but so is YouTube's system, so I never know whom to blame for stuff like that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 19, 2011, 10:33:30 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 19, 2011, 10:18:26 AM
He also made a video before that on the same topic with even MORE sarcasm. :D

I'm aware. I happen to think that this video is a bit more direct.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 19, 2011, 02:27:47 PM
"All the horror I heard about during the Nürnberg trial, the 6 million Jews, dissidents or people of another race who died, shocked me deeply. But I hadn't made the connection with my own past yet. I reassured myself by thinking I wasn't personally guilty of it...But one day, I walked past a commemorative plaque for Sophie Scholl, here in the Franz-Joseph-Strasse. I saw that she was my age and that she was executed in the year I joined Hitler. And only then did I realise that youth is no excuse. And that it might have been possible to find out the truth...I feel as if I should be angry with that child, that naive young girl...for not recognising the nature of that monster...I could have said, in Berlin: 'No, I'm not doing it. I don't want to go to the Führer's headquarters.'" --Traudl Junge
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 19, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
I'm self quoting again but I really liked this one.

"The "free rider problem" is a classic case of projection.  It's taking a state problem and baselessly projecting it onto a stateless society.  It's no different than trying to defend slavery by saying "But who's going to provide the slaves with jobs if we let them go?"
        It's not an argument. Stop stealing from people to fund butchery under false pretences of national security and THEN we'll talk about a business model for defense agencies, NOT BEFORE!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 19, 2011, 10:58:45 PM
"I see faith as believing in something when there is no verifiable way to prove it one way or the other...The real question to me is, how does that belief shape what you do in the real world? If your faith causes you to be a better person, help others, and make the universe a nicer place, more power to you, whether you are believing in God or Thor. If it causes you to set fire to others, trample my rights, or prevent my daughter from learning science at school, we will have words." --my long-time real-life friend Chris Goodson
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 20, 2011, 07:10:12 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 21, 2011, 03:55:55 PM
Man, when Cracked has their game on, they have it ON!

"A whole lot of the innovation you're using now -- including the basics of your operating system that were developed, not by Microsoft or Apple but by Xerox -- happened before the era of software patents. Otherwise, those innovations may never have happened at all. Who can afford to pay for every little facet of a system that happens to be similar to what someone else invented?" -- http://www.cracked.com/article_18808_7-reasons-computer-glitches-wont-go-away-ever_p2.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 21, 2011, 06:00:31 PM
Yeah, it's amazing how little innovation there has been in computers since software patents compared to what there were before. To think that all of these latest interface designs and techniques are all based on things cooked up in the early 1970s!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 22, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
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He has been on such a roll lately.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 21, 2011, 06:00:31 PM
Yeah, it's amazing how little innovation there has been in computers since software patents compared to what there were before. To think that all of these latest interface designs and techniques are all based on things cooked up in the early 1970s!
Indeed.  It's a stark example of how IP laws both don't encourage innovation and stop it outright.  I also like how it's recent enough where fewer people will go on saying, "yes, but that was then, this is now!!11"

Quote from: D on August 22, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
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He has been on such a roll lately.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post that. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: D on August 22, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
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He has been on such a roll lately.

I didn't understand a word of that...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
From the same Cracked article: 

"Also, you may recall a certain antitrust scuffle Microsoft got into around the turn of the millennium. The results of that ruling have been a bit of a mixed bag: Microsoft can't include its free anti-virus software (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security_essentials/default.aspx) with Windows, because that would stop Norton and McAfee from making users pay $100 a year for their own anti-virus programs that declare critical system files to be viruses (http://siblog.mcafee.com/support/mcafee-response-on-current-false-positive-issue/) and stop the entire computer from running in response." --Stuart P. Bentley (http://www.cracked.com/article_18808_7-reasons-computer-glitches-wont-go-away-ever.html)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 12:05:13 PMI didn't understand a word of that...
Here's a transcription made by yours truly:

In the world of the government
Where all they're selling is fear
Telling the truth is treason
Principled leaders are rare

But that's the runway
Those fuckers hate the poor
I voted Obama for peace
Now I cheer for his murderous war

We're the YouTube statheists
And religion makes us frown
Religion is responsible
when the kicks us down

We're the YouTube statheists
our love of reason is a lie
We're a hated minority
and we still wonder why
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 22, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
From the same Cracked article: 

"Also, you may recall a certain antitrust scuffle Microsoft got into around the turn of the millennium. The results of that ruling have been a bit of a mixed bag: Microsoft can't include its free anti-virus software (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security_essentials/default.aspx) with Windows, because that would stop Norton and McAfee from making users pay $100 a year for their own anti-virus programs that declare critical system files to be viruses (http://siblog.mcafee.com/support/mcafee-response-on-current-false-positive-issue/) and stop the entire computer from running in response." --Stuart P. Bentley (http://www.cracked.com/article_18808_7-reasons-computer-glitches-wont-go-away-ever.html)

Personally, as a video editor, I'm sick and tired of them proclaiming video and audio codecs to be malware!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Now THIS one is full of win:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2011, 01:46:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Now THIS one is full of win:

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Man, like Rand Paul, when Morrakiu has his game on, he has it ON!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2011, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 22, 2011, 12:20:55 PMPersonally, as a video editor, I'm sick and tired of them proclaiming video and audio codecs to be malware!

Yet another reason you prefer Ubuntu, yes?  I don't really have the knowledge to understand how it doesn't need antivirus software, but if so, damn.

Also, the whole case of Microsoft being sued because of anti-trust law violations just REEKS of cronyism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 23, 2011, 12:06:11 AM
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"This is just like religious fundamentalists accusing atheists of being 'against god.' Well no, atheists are not against god, atheists do not hate god, atheists do not believe that god exists. So likewise, those who do not believe in the theory of evolution are not against evolution. they don't agree with the existence of evolution."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 23, 2011, 07:13:33 AM
Right. I could have thrown up when I heard the Non-Prophets this week and Matt Dillahunty equated Ron Paul to Rick Perry...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 23, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 23, 2011, 07:13:33 AM
Right. I could have thrown up when I heard the Non-Prophets this week and Matt Dillahunty equated Ron Paul to Rick Perry...

I remember when Obama first became President, the Atheist Experience made some kind of stupid remark about how Obama very well could be the first atheist president....yet he is just as religious as any other president we've had in the history of this country.

I think the guy in the video I posted had it right when he said that the reason people bring this up for Ron Paul is that the left liberals who would have voted for him need an excuse not to.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 23, 2011, 12:10:31 PM
A Scottish friend of mine just posted this on Facebook in regards to a book he read called Crap Days Out by Gareth Rubin:

QuoteThe main criticism of Loch Ness in the book is that it sells the idea that you might have a chance of seeing the monster if you visit. The author's claim that there is zero chance, because it doesn't exist. I have to defend Loch Ness on this one. I think if anyone travels anywhere expecting to see a prehistoric monster, then they deserve to be disappointed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 23, 2011, 01:06:59 PM
Hate to triple post, but I just saw this posted on Facebook and thought it was deserving of this thread.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 24, 2011, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 23, 2011, 07:13:33 AM
Right. I could have thrown up when I heard the Non-Prophets this week and Matt Dillahunty equated Ron Paul to Rick Perry...

Is that the same Matt Dillahunty who said that a scientist still could do his job, even when he professes a belief in god and genesis and stuff WHEN he's able to keep religion seperated from his work?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 24, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Quote from: D on August 23, 2011, 09:06:01 AMI remember when Obama first became President, the Atheist Experience made some kind of stupid remark about how Obama very well could be the first atheist president....yet he is just as religious as any other president we've had in the history of this country.
Figures that they be just a bunch of stupid statheists.

Quote from: D on August 23, 2011, 09:06:01 AMI think the guy in the video I posted had it right when he said that the reason people bring this up for Ron Paul is that the left liberals who would have voted for him need an excuse not to.
Something that Morrakiu's videos have eloquently demonstrated.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 24, 2011, 12:00:54 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 24, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Figures that they be just a bunch of stupid statheists.

Ohohohoho, oh that pun.
Satan has a special little place in hell for people like you.
And he calls it Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 25, 2011, 12:43:02 AM
http://www.cracked.com/back-to-school-facts/  Alternative title:  "125 (More) Reasons Why Government Schooling is a Failed Institution"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 26, 2011, 11:29:06 PM
I really just come up with these in the middle of convos out of nowhere.

"It really takes some skill to fail at performing miracles even worse than God does.  At least the state doesn't suffer the disadvantage of not existing."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 27, 2011, 03:51:40 PM
"This is a typical tactic used by those who have no sane, reasonable or factual argument to defend their view; when the facts aren't on your side, attack the other side, question their motives, demonize them, and never, ever admit they may hold sincere beliefs." - Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2011/08/decriminalizing-drugs-will-save-lives-and-money/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 27, 2011, 10:50:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 29, 2011, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 22, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
I think I like this guy.
He must be even more fascinated with Euler's Identity:  e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0

He mentioned that, sort of.  Euler's Identity shows up as a special case of an elementary complex wave equation.  (Yes, I took a QM course.  I FLUNKED it, and BADLY, but I took it.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 29, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: D on August 23, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
I remember when Obama first became President, the Atheist Experience made some kind of stupid remark about how Obama very well could be the first atheist president....yet he is just as religious as any other president we've had in the history of this country.

I think the guy in the video I posted had it right when he said that the reason people bring this up for Ron Paul is that the left liberals who would have voted for him need an excuse not to.

I suspect that Obama is probably MORE religious (at least in public) than many of the early Presidents.  Those who were explicitly Deist were likely a great deal less religious than any President in the last 35 years.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 29, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
A couple of my own.

"New is to Labour as National is to Socialism" - bumper sticker, seen for sale in the UK in 2005

"During the course of a long and interesting life, a man must be prepared to abandon his luggage more than once." - supposedly Chinese

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 29, 2011, 02:40:18 PM
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Granted there is some fail in that he confuses Evolution as a forward process by which people get better or something like that, overall, I'd call this a fav.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: kiri2tsubasa on August 29, 2011, 11:40:16 PM
"Capitalism tries for a delicate balance: It attempts to work things out so that everyone gets just enough stuff to keep them from getting violent and trying to take other people's stuff."   George Carlin.  Makes sense when you think about it, in that odd I have been awake for almost 50 hours sense.

Just because he did terrible things doesn't mean he can not say something that is fairly accurate.
"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."  Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 30, 2011, 05:46:28 PM
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As I said in the comments to said video, it deserves a standing ovation.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 31, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
As John Stossel pointed out, if women get paid less for doing the exact same work, why would anyone ever hire a man?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 31, 2011, 01:27:02 PM
A quote from this lecture:

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QuoteThe idea that democracy trumps liberty in the Constitution is completely off base. The Constitution doesn't exist to empower majorities. Majorities don't need to be empowered, they're already the majority!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 01, 2011, 10:54:38 PM
"@eagleeye1975 The suffering is going to happen regardless. People have planned their lives around government handouts and they're going to pay the price for it no matter who gets elected. If anything good can come out of it, it has to be the exposure of the state. For that to happen, the state's failure must be absolute. There must be no doubt what the cause of the suffering was. Only then can people have closure and move on. We can't afford to have this myth go on anymore." --Lord T Hawkeye here:  http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=DTZvmoPiMss

To be fair, plenty of people who do that do so because the state has taken over 60% of their income and left them with little to nothing to show for it.  But still, Hawkeye's point still stands firm.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on September 03, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
Someone posted a link to buy the DVD of Atlas Shrugged on the LPF Facebook group, somebody replied

QuoteThe worst thing about being a libertarian is having to pretend that Atlas Shrugged didn't suck
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 04, 2011, 09:19:07 AM
QuoteThe worst thing about being a libertarian is having to pretend that Atlas Shrugged didn't suck

One of my Facebook friends responding to my repost:

QuoteThe movie was horrible. The book serves a purpose though...I can't get more than 3 pages without falling into a coma.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 04, 2011, 10:13:27 AM
This entire video:

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And especially:

"If a progressive is for anything, a progressive has got to be for telling the truth about foreign policy, stopping the killing overseas, and not throwing hundreds of thousands of your fellow Americans into cages! Isn't that at least what you guys stand for? Then for heaven's sake, get off your high horse and join us."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 06, 2011, 09:24:39 AM
One of the few videos where Edward isn't playing a character and gets down to some serious business.
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I'd say something like, "Maybe this will silence the so called truthers," but we know that will completely ignore this anyway.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 07, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
It's been awhile since Pat Condell made a video I agree with 100%:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 07, 2011, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 07, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
It's been awhile since Pat Condell made a video I agree with 100%:

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Some of the comments in that vid are abysmal though.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on September 07, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: D on September 06, 2011, 09:24:39 AM
I'd say something like, "Maybe this will silence the so called truthers," but we know that will completely ignore this anyway.

Not a chance, I posted this on ATS, first reply is

QuoteUnless this explains how there was a cover up and explosives were planted in that building leading up to a controlled demolition, then only an idiot would buy it,   
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 07, 2011, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on September 07, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
Not a chance, I posted this on ATS, first reply is

Yep, typical "hurr durr it doesn't subscribe to my theory so it must be wrong even if evidence says otherwise hurr durr."

Honestly, sometimes I think we would be better off if we just blacklist these schmucks from any kind of intellectual debate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 07, 2011, 09:52:42 PM
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My new social contract.  More of us should do these.  Feel free to make it whatever you want cause hey, according to the statists: You can get away with murder as long as you say it was a contract afterwards.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 08, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
You inspired me to make this:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6126485187_442440c3ca.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6126485187/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 08, 2011, 08:14:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 08, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
Wes is great, but he needs to work on his presentation skills.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 08, 2011, 09:06:27 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 08, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
Wes is great, but he needs to work on his presentation skills.

He sounds like he is cutting a promo for his next match at the big pay per view. At least he did when he was talking about Rick Perry. This time he just sounds angry.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 09, 2011, 07:56:34 AM
"[Rick Perry] thinks that the government can't do anything right, except kill people without mistake." --Penn Jillette
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 09, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
"Wherever there is tragedy, comedy is right behind it sticking its tongue out." --Gilbert Gottfried
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 09, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
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and on the other end of the spectrum:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 09, 2011, 06:17:02 PM
[yt]qcXtYXUCOMY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 09, 2011, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 08, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
You inspired me to make this:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6126485187_442440c3ca.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6126485187/)

Oh!  Can I use that on my next vid?  Please!!  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 09, 2011, 07:19:45 PM
Of course! You can even grab a higher-res version on Flickr. (If you're being REALLY good, you can give me credit as per the CC license, but you know I'm not an IP guy so I won't come after you anyway...)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 09, 2011, 08:06:26 PM
Oh I will, it's the gentlemanly thing to do after all.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 09, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
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Thanks, Hawkeye.  I needed this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 09, 2011, 09:04:29 PM
I aim to please.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 10, 2011, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 09, 2011, 07:56:34 AM
"[Rick Perry] thinks that the government can't do anything right, except kill people without mistake." --Penn Jillette

oh yes, it can indeed kill without mistake: like that one guy they found possibly innocent prior to execution, but was executed anyways?

Government is sacred ::)

srsly, that's the sort of thing that makes me want to avoid Rick Perry like the plague. anybody who is willing to execute an innocent man, shouldn't even be entrusted to the task of killing a guilty one-or while we're at it, sit in any position of government.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on September 10, 2011, 03:02:57 AM
Which guy was that? This one or that one?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 10, 2011, 03:50:55 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on September 10, 2011, 03:02:57 AM
Which guy was that? This one or that one?

that one of course! :P

ok, srsly:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/10/241830/top-10-thing-texas-gov-rick-perry/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150205907391463_17412811_10150241602096463

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham

the quote: (if for some reason the link doesn't work):

Quote(1) PERRY ALLOWED THE EXECUTION OF A LIKELY INNOCENT MAN, THEN IMPEDED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER: In 2004, Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Huntsville, Texas after being convicted of arson and the murder of his three children. Even after significant evidence emerged showing that arson had not caused the fire (thus exonerating Willingham), Perry refused to grant a stay of execution. Five years after Willingham was executed, a report from a Texas Forensic Science Commission investigator found that the fire could not have been arson. As the commission prepared to hear testimony from the investigator in October 2009, Perry quickly fired and replaced three of its members, forcing an indefinite delay in the hearing.

and for the sake of integrity, I will modify the previous post. you'll see the correction in underlined.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on September 10, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 10, 2011, 04:19:11 PM
"Why should we, however, in economics, have to plead ignorance of the sort of facts on which, in the case of a physical theory, a scientist would certainly be expected to give precise information?" - F.A. Hayek
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: D on September 10, 2011, 04:19:11 PM
"Why should we, however, in economics, have to plead ignorance of the sort of facts on which, in the case of a physical theory, a scientist would certainly be expected to give precise information?" - F.A. Hayek
Because economics is a science of human action, not of physical law. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
In the comments of this video:  [yt]X4Nq7smT_yA[/yt]

Quote from: Dirge987xexixk: "Oh Gulbrik, tell me what I want to hear."

gulbrik: "Taxes are good. The state helps us. These guys are all deluded idealists."

xexixk: "Mmmm, yeah.... Tell me I have all the answers."

gulbrik: "You have all the answers."

xexixk: "OH YEAH! You're an atheist so you're obviously logical."

gulbrik: "I'm getting so hot. But what if he bans us?"

xexixk: "Let him ban us! All I need is someone else telling me how right I am."

gulbrik: "As do I my love."

xexixk: "I love you."

*facenom*

I laughed my ass off at that. ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
http://www.theonion.com/video/remembering-911-a-pleasure-for-nation-compared-to,21322/?utm_source=recentnews
Made.  Of.  Win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 11, 2011, 02:22:22 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 10, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
I laughed my ass off at that. ^_^

Normally, I do not like gay jokes at all because they're cheap shots and horribly overdone.

In this case however, 100% justified.  I seriously thought they were going to give each other big sloppy kisses any second.  Multiple pages of self congratulatory prattling that would make you want to shove their heads into their crotches and let them drown in their own fluids...

I apologize for that horrific imagery.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2011, 03:40:44 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 10, 2011, 01:30:00 AM
oh yes, it can indeed kill without mistake: like that one guy they found possibly innocent prior to execution, but was executed anyways?

Government is sacred ::)

srsly, that's the sort of thing that makes me want to avoid Rick Perry like the plague. anybody who is willing to execute an innocent man, shouldn't even be entrusted to the task of killing a guilty one-or while we're at it, sit in any position of government.
Alright, time to sing along:

Our gov, is an awesome god...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2011, 03:47:18 AM
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Damn.  When this guy has his game on, he has it ON!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 11, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
Blowback certainly hasn't been ignored as a cause of terrorist attacks.  Hitchens has pointed out that it was pretty much the entire reason for the nightclub bombing in Bali.  (Specifically, the heinous crime of preventing the Indonesian military and their armed civilian thug auxiliaries from murdering the non-Muslim population of East Timor, then having the NERVE to help them set up a separate state.  The target was selected because it was popular with Australian tourists, Australia having taken a leading role in East Timor, and Bali having a primarily Buddhist population.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 11, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
Yes, but Hitchens is intelligent and not at all jingoistic. Sadly, he is NOT representative of most people.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 12, 2011, 12:09:05 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 11, 2011, 03:40:44 AM
Alright, time to sing along:

Our gov, is an awesome god...

now that should be a favorite quote. pure win!  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 13, 2011, 09:21:09 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 13, 2011, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on September 11, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
Hitchens has pointed out that it was pretty much the entire reason for the nightclub bombing in Bali.
Yet didn't Hitchens still support the war in Iraq?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 14, 2011, 09:15:43 AM
QuoteI'll be frank with you Judge. I have some problems with the Constitution in that it is an inherently flawed document because it does rely on the government to police itself but by the same token it's written in plain language that anyone can read, including myself, and from my readings, no the federal government is not allowed to do certain things, it's not empowered to do certain things, and if it's not empowered to do those things then it's not allowed to do those things.
- Glenn Jacobs on Freedom Watch, also known as professional wrestler Kane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 15, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 12, 2011, 12:09:05 AMnow that should be a favorite quote. pure win!  ;D

The full video from which that line came from (also a fav quote):  [yt]O06acUXAOFQ[/yt]

I know I've already posted it, but I figured it deserved to be seen, damn it. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 15, 2011, 03:13:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 17, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
To a tyrant or an imperial city, nothing is inconsistent which is expedient. -Euphemus of Athens.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 18, 2011, 12:02:44 AM
And speaking of the Greeks, this image is made of pure concentrated win:

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9553/euthyphrodilemma.jpg)

The best part is you can replace "God" with "Government," "The Majority," "The U.S. Constitution," etc, and it still works out the same.
Pretty much the only thing that won't work in that would be "Rationality," "Logic," and "Empirical Evidence" as you get a self detonating statement with each of those.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 18, 2011, 12:04:58 AM
This one as well is made of win:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/5251202904_0c689228c9_z.jpg)

I'm not a Star Wars fan, so it probably won't have as much impact on me as it would the SW fans here. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 18, 2011, 12:07:04 AM
Shane, whenever I see this one, I think of you:

(http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/102307/libertarian-limit.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 19, 2011, 12:12:42 PM
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The title is a tad misleading only in that this is clearly not a defense of Social Security.

Social security is an insult to ponzi schemes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 19, 2011, 12:33:51 PM
Yeah, at least Ponzi schemes you can opt out of.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
[yt]2dCvJ41ZENs[/yt]

Something I can relate to...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 20, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 20, 2011, 04:53:56 PMSomething I can relate to...

Reminds me of this:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 21, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 21, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
From tonygmilan7's About Me:

"Some Universal Facts:
Ludwig Von Mises is the greatest economist of all time.
An expropriating property protector is a contradiction in terms.
You cannot possibly argue against self ownership.
John Maynard Keynes is dead."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Houshalter on September 21, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
QuoteIf voting changed anything it would be illegal.

Have no idea who the original source was, but I've seen it several places.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 23, 2011, 10:57:33 PM
"You know what's ALWAYS been faster than the speed of light? The speed of stupid." --Chris Pirillo
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 24, 2011, 03:24:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19431_5-mind-blowing-things-crowds-do-better-than-experts.html
Skip to number 2.  It and number 1 appear to be made of awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 24, 2011, 04:45:43 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 23, 2011, 10:57:33 PM
"You know what's ALWAYS been faster than the speed of light? The speed of stupid." --Chris Pirillo

as evidenced by the speed at which the stocks have keeled over in the aftermath of Yesterday's Bernankian Abomination.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 26, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 24, 2011, 04:45:43 PM
as evidenced by the speed at which the stocks have keeled over in the aftermath of Yesterday's Bernankian Abomination.

All I've been able to get is that all the central bankers and ministers who have anything to do with money or industry are on the point of panicking because they've all but run out of room (read: cash) to keep fiddling with things in a large swath of the world.

OK, could be a bit painful in the short term when all the government plans go foom at once, but sounds like the best thing that could happen in the medium term.  (In the long term, they'll probably find a way to start fiddling again, but they always will, won't they?)

Actually, selling stocks probably is a good idea if things are about to go foom.  Catch them when they're down and ride them back up as things improve after the governments run out of cash.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 26, 2011, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on September 26, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
All I've been able to get is that all the central bankers and ministers who have anything to do with money or industry are on the point of panicking because they've all but run out of room (read: cash) to keep fiddling with things in a large swath of the world.

OK, could be a bit painful in the short term when all the government plans go foom at once, but sounds like the best thing that could happen in the medium term.  (In the long term, they'll probably find a way to start fiddling again, but they always will, won't they?)

Actually, selling stocks probably is a good idea if things are about to go foom.  Catch them when they're down and ride them back up as things improve after the governments run out of cash.


I was referring to Bernanke and his people with the latest QE5 (IIRC it's name). their stupid traveled so quickly, that the stock people in the US panicked almost instantly on the passing of their decision..

I do agree though with your assessment of the medium term and short term. long term goes without saying these days.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 27, 2011, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 26, 2011, 07:57:21 PM

I was referring to Bernanke and his people with the latest QE5 (IIRC it's name). their stupid traveled so quickly, that the stock people in the US panicked almost instantly on the passing of their decision..


Ah, Quantitative Easing (read:  Let's dump a bunch more fiat currency into circulation and see if we DON'T get the same result as the last four times!).  Fortunately, they can't keep that up forever.  Eventually, nobody will be willing to buy the debt and the whole system will collapse.  It's starting to happen in Europe, which is what they've been panicking over of late.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2011, 06:07:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2011, 07:16:40 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19455_5-common-crime-fighting-tactics-statistics-say-dont-work.html
Words cannot describe the awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: kiri2tsubasa on September 28, 2011, 02:16:48 AM
When ever I see something in a gaming magazine that has my interest and it mentions something I really like (or if it is by Relic or Volition) I use a quote from Fry of Futurama.

"SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 28, 2011, 08:18:31 AM
The National Archives (of our Federal government itself) has a Q&A on the Constitution: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_q_and_a.html

While much of it is interesting history, there are a few questions that everyone--especially Federal politicians--need to see:

QuoteQ. Why has our Constitution been classed as "rigid"?
A. The term "rigid" is used in opposition to "flexible" because the provisions are in a written document which cannot be legally changed with the same ease and in the same manner as ordinary laws. The British Constitution, which is unwritten, can, on the other hand, be changed overnight by act of Parliament.

QuoteQ. The United States government is frequently described as one of limited powers. Is this true?
A. Yes. The United States government possesses only such powers as are specifically granted to it by the Constitution.

QuoteQ. Where, in the Constitution, is there mention of education?
A. There is none; education is a matter reserved for the States.

QuoteQ. It is frequently asserted that the Supreme Court nullifies an act of Congress. Is this correct?
A. No. The Court has repeatedly declared that it claims no such power. All it does--all it can do--is to examine a law when a suit is brought before it. If the law in question is in accordance with the Constitution, in the opinion of the Supreme Court, the law stands. If the law goes beyond powers granted by the Constitution, then it is no law, and the Supreme Court merely states that fact (Art. III, sec. 2, cl. 1; Art. VI, cl. 2).

QuoteQ. Does not the Constitution give us our rights and liberties?
A. No, it does not, it only guarantees them. The people had all their rights and liberties before they made the Constitution. The Constitution was formed, among other purposes, to make the people's liberties secure-- secure not only as against foreign attack but against oppression by their own government. They set specific limits upon their national government and upon the States, and reserved to themselves all powers that they did not grant. The Ninth Amendment declares: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Amazing how many people deny these tooth and nail.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 28, 2011, 09:58:22 AM
Wow, thanks for posting the link to that. Posted that on Facebook.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 29, 2011, 05:43:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 30, 2011, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 24, 2011, 03:24:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19431_5-mind-blowing-things-crowds-do-better-than-experts.html
Skip to number 2.  It and number 1 appear to be made of awesome.

There are many, MANY things made of awesome on cracked.com.  Pretty much ANYTHING where they use statistics is Awesomeness aimed at bogosity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 30, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: D on September 29, 2011, 05:43:18 PM
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I dunno, seems to me he might be conflating open borders with open immigration a bit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 30, 2011, 11:48:31 AM
"When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you--pull your beard, flick your face--to make you fight. Because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor." --John Lennon
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 03, 2011, 05:09:20 PM
"Remember, whatever the government can do to others, it can do to you. We are only free when everyone is free." --Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 06, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
The whole video is great, but the win part starts about 3:23 in:

[yt]3nOgdc5JmYM&start=203[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 06, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." --Dwight D. Eisenhower
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 06, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
A reworking of an old economics saying that's going around the internet:

"Recession is when you lose your job. Depression is when I lose mine. Recovery is when Obama loses his."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 06, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
This (http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-stossel.html) is a pretty good piece by John Stossel.

QuoteHere's my fantasy: Libertarians are elected to the presidency and to majorities in Congress. What would happen next? Well, if libertarians were "in charge," you'd have more freedom and prosperity.

Freedom frightens some people. They say if no one is in charge there would be chaos. That is intuitive, but think about a skating rink. Before rinks were invented, if you proposed an amusement in which people strap blades to their feet and skate around on ice at whatever speeds they wish, you'd have been called crazy. There's got to be speed limits, stoplights, turn signals. But we know that people navigate rinks safely on their own. They create their own order, with only minimal rules.

Society would work the same way — and does to a large extent even today. "Great part of that order which reigns among mankind is not the effect of government," Thomas Paine, the soul of the American Revolution, wrote. "It has its origin in the principles of society and the natural constitution of man. ... Common interest (has) a greater influence than the laws of government."

If libertarians were "in charge," there would be laws to protect us from foreign enemies and those who would steal from us or injure us. Today, by contrast, under the rule of Democans and Republicrats, we're drowning in rules — 160,000 pages' worth. Micromanagement kills opportunity and freedom.

Maybe if there were a way to have more competition among governments, things would be better. Competition forces people to become more efficient and to get rid of stupid rules. What if we let people take over some unused land in America to create areas with fewer rules, simpler legal systems, smaller government?

I explored that subject last week with Michael Strong and Magatte Wade, founders of the Free Cities Project.

Strong said, "We want to encourage thousands of people to create new governments that have different rules, each competing for customers with the best education and best health care, the most peace and prosperity you could imagine."

Of course, state governments would have to approve this.

"There are already Native American reservations in the U.S. ... They can become more free.

Honduras already has something like this. In Senegal, we're encouraging a move toward an autonomous city-state that would allow for peace and prosperity."

Wade is Strong's wife and an entrepreneur from Senegal, where she saw firsthand how bad rules prevent people from creating prosperity.

"We need jobs. Who creates jobs? Entrepreneurs," she said.

But Senegal is awash in rules. There was a government monopoly on cement. When the government allowed competition, prices fell by a third.

She started a beverage company.

"It was an ordeal. I did it because I am from Senegal. I have an interest in trying to improve things. But for an American company ... why would they put themselves through such a thing?"

"What people don't realize is the developing world is massively overregulated," Strong said. "Africa is the most regulated continent on earth."

In the Congo, it requires 18 documents to import anything.

Wade added: "The fact we have so many rules — who benefits most? Multinationals."

"And crony capitalists," Strong added. "Corruption in Africa is a symptom of massive overregulation."

Are there any free cities along the lines Strong and Wade envision?

"Hong Kong and Singapore are the best examples," Strong said. "Now they are among the wealthiest places on earth."

And there is a free city in Dubai because the emirate wanted to create a financial sector, but sharia law prevented it.

"Dubai was brilliant," Strong said. "They looked around the world. They saw that Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, Chicago, Sydney, London all ran British common law. British common law is much better for commerce than is French common law or sharia law. So they took 110 acres of Dubai soil, put British common law with a British judge in charge, and they went from an empty piece of soil to the 16th most powerful financial center in world in eight years."

It's what libertarians have said: Freedom works, and government, when it grows beyond the barest minimum, keeps people poor.
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Post by: MrBogosity on October 07, 2011, 07:11:10 AM
Full of win:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 07, 2011, 08:30:33 AM
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One quote that really stands out from the video:
"The moment that I have a right, a basic foundation on human right, to somebody else's labor, to somebody else's knowledge, to somebody else's expertise, to somebody else's time, that person has become my slave and I do not advocate slavery and you damn well should not advocate slavery if you are in the business of extending and expanding human freedom." - Stefan Molyneux
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 07, 2011, 10:26:16 AM
Every American needs to read this one: http://peacefreedomprosperity.com/5734/oathbreaker/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 07, 2011, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 07, 2011, 07:11:10 AM
Full of win:

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yeah-that was a great one. it's on my favorites list right now. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 08, 2011, 12:13:41 AM
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Yet another reason why government will never work.  Ever. Period. End of Story.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 08, 2011, 03:38:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 08, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 08, 2011, 12:13:41 AM
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Yet another reason why government will never work.  Ever. Period. End of Story.

well, this guy has found himself a new sub.

EDIT: watching more of him makes me even more convinced that he is a good YT investment.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 09, 2011, 02:36:27 AM
If you think that's good, check out his vid "The Story of your enslavement"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 10, 2011, 08:51:28 AM
"If that moron Columbus hadn't of gotten lost we would have a Buddhist instead of a native American in the Village People. I love the fact we make a holiday over a guy who got lost and did his best to enslave and rape a nation. It's like making heroes of the Somalia pirates-if they discover something while they are robbing and murdering folks! Just my opinion!" - John Layfield
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 11, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: D on October 06, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
This (http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-stossel.html) is a pretty good piece by John Stossel.

This reminds me of a Radio documentary (almost comically, from CBC Radio 1's long-running series Idea, which is a Canadian government-sponsored broadcaster that had a surprising number of government-skewering documentaries on that particular show, that is to say, any at all) I heard.

Some years back, Peru attempted to sell its' public telephone monopoly for something like $100 million.  Nobody was interested.  On investigating why, the government of Peru discovered that nobody was wiling to buy it because Peruvian property law was so messed up that it was impossible to define exactly what was for sale.  They cleaned up the law so that there was a clear identification of the exact property that was for sale, and got something like $1 BILLION for it.

This caused a group of Peruvian academics to ask the question:  Does the Developing World fail to develop because of bad property laws?

They investigated a number of countries, and found that the lack of functioning property laws was a major economic problem.

In most Western, developed countries, if you want to build a building on a piece of land that you own, you do something like this:

You go down to the planning office, and file a request for a building permit (which usually requires a copy of the plans for what you want to build, and for common things like detached garages many jurisdictions will even supply you with stock plans for a reasonable design for a nominal fee).  You file that one request with one office, and usually you get an answer back in no more than a few days.

Compare that to the situation in Egypt at the time.  The Peruvians calculated that if you wanted to build a house on an empty stretch of desert, with no agricultural, mining, historical, or other significance, and you spent 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year (what we typically consider full-time employment levels of time and effort in North America), it would take you 18 YEARS to do all the paperwork.  To build a house on an empty piece of desert of no importance to anyone for any reason, except yourself.  This was so pointless and wasteful, that more than 90% of buildings in Egypt had no official paperwork on them whatsoever.

This lack of official paperwork has serious economic repercussions.

In a Western country, if you own a piece of land, there's normally a registration of that fact with the local Land Title (or equivalent) Registry Office.  This is used for assessing property tax, but it also acts as a place where liens of various sorts can be registered and checked for.  This means that when buying land, it is possible to verify that the person you are buying it from has legal authority to sell it, and you can check for encumbrances on the use of that land (such as easements, flood plain restrictions, waterway use and access limitations, etc.).  It ALSO means that a lender can be reasonably certain that all is what it's supposed to be when loaning you the money to buy it against the value of the property itself (the typical way you buy property with a mortgage).

That simply isn't possible in Egypt for almost all people, since there's no paperwork on almost everything.  That means that, for instance, while everyone in the neighborhood may agree who owns a particular house, and so the sale of that house for cash will be accepted, no lender will give a mortgage on the property because there's no way to register that it exists anywhere that informs people about it, and no mechanism available to effectively enforce the mortgage if it goes into default.

That means that most Egyptians have no access to loans against the value of the homes they own, making it very hard for them to get the money to start or expand a business.  Egypt is practically CARPETED with people running small businesses of all kinds.  Some of these people doubtless have the skills, drive, and luck needed to expand their small businesses into larger, more efficient, and more profitable businesses, but they have no way to get the capital needed to do so.

Fixing the mess isn't easy, and won't be quick.  The property laws in the West aren't perfect, and we've been working on them for several centuries.  Acknowledging that there's a HUGE problem with the property law regime (namely, that in many countries it's outright BROKEN) is the first step towards trying to fix the problems.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 12, 2011, 12:11:27 PM
Full. Of. WIN: http://www.cracked.com/article_19461_6-b.s.-myths-you-probably-believe-about-americas-enemies.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 12, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 12, 2011, 12:11:27 PM
Full. Of. WIN: http://www.cracked.com/article_19461_6-b.s.-myths-you-probably-believe-about-americas-enemies.html
Eh, I was going to post it. >_>
And here I thought me and Hawkeye were the only ones here who read cracked.com
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 12, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
And not to be outdone:  [yt]7ugrYfoeoi0[/yt]
Lord T Hawkeye pwns the Social Contract yet again.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 13, 2011, 03:38:12 PM
"I think the US should raise taxes, so the rich can come here to Sweden instead and start jobs here.: --Visfen, comments of this video: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=w7FnUowZKfg
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 13, 2011, 03:52:47 PM
Fuck. You're right. If we raise the taxes the rich can afford to simply go somewhere else...
We need to disown those motherfuckers completely.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 11:16:34 AM
"The world needs the goods and services Americans can potentially produce more than it needs some planetary protection from evil that America can't possibly provide." --Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 15, 2011, 11:26:16 AM
Can those goods include nun porn?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on October 15, 2011, 11:26:16 AM
Can those goods include nun porn?

He's a Libertarian, so sure!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 15, 2011, 03:20:14 PM
Oh thank god. For a moment I was worried.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 03:55:55 PM
Now, GOOD nun porn is another issue; it seems to be harder to find than the Holy Grail...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 15, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 03:55:55 PM
Now, GOOD nun porn is another issue; it seems to be harder to find than the Holy Grail...

Good porn for any fetish is hard to find.  Ah, for the heady days of the late 70's and early 80's, when they really did actually try to write scripts (even if they were kind of inept at it, at least they tried something).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
They could at least hire "nuns" without absurdly fake boobs, tattoos over 60% of their bodies, and 8 million piercings...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on October 15, 2011, 09:38:52 PM
Not quite a quote, but guess who got on the news for 5 seconds?

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=2936810
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 16, 2011, 12:19:14 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on October 15, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
Good porn for any fetish is hard to find (lolwut?).  Ah, for the heady days of the late 70's and early 80's, when they really did actually try to write scripts (even if they were kind of inept at it, at least they tried something).

you're clearly not looking in the right places....and you must be having the search filter turned on-otherwise it would have been found by now.  :P

I mean, it's gotten to the point where there is (and no, I'm not joking), Bowling Ball porn (from what I'm told pretty stimulating too), Final Fantasy porn (the Spoonyone mentioned this, and even showed some pics), I even am aware of Mortal Kombat porn (just find the cached page from Encyclopedia Dramatica)-all off surprisingly good quality, though I'm not sure if the style is what you want.

in short: I'm sure there is excellent Nun porn out there. just turn the search filter off.  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on October 16, 2011, 01:19:06 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
They could at least hire "nuns" without absurdly fake boobs, tattoos over 60% of their bodies, and 8 million piercings...

Hey, hey, hey! You leave Burning Angel productions alone. I happen to like the punk rocker look, and they're the favorite production company of myself and the missus. Aside from the one that does those nerd porno parodies.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 16, 2011, 05:08:07 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
They could at least hire "nuns" without absurdly fake boobs, tattoos over 60% of their bodies, and 8 million piercings...

Yes, that would help.

While fine as fetishes go, tattoos and piercings really don't go with the nun thing very well.  At least, not on ALL of them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on October 16, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
Unless they're Biker Nuns from Mars. Have a Snickers.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 21, 2011, 12:04:54 PM
"Being a Libertarian in elected office is like being the designated driver in a room full of drunks." --R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 22, 2011, 07:31:36 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 22, 2011, 02:47:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 25, 2011, 12:29:42 PM
So a friend of mine apparently found a rather interesting item while looking through one of his great uncle's books. Apparently he wrote a poem during the time of the Great Depression.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d168/IronFury51488/GreatDepressionPoem.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 25, 2011, 02:44:42 PM
well, since you had to broach the subject, a favorite anecdote (not a quote, but hey, it works):


FDR himself often mentioned this one story about a businessman who hated the New Deal, and how every day he'd buy a newspaper from a kid, stare at it's front page, and throw it away, cursing.

eventually, the Kid asked him: "why are you just looking at the front page?", to which the businessman replied:

"I'm looking for a Death".

"But sir, you know the deaths are listed in the Obituaries, right?

"Son, you better believe this death will be on the front page!"

evidently, not many people were eager to go with the New Deal...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 31, 2011, 05:22:15 PM
While I don't agree with him on religion, C.S. Lewis did have some nice quotes otherwise.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals. "

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 04, 2011, 02:40:04 AM
Talking to a friend though I dont' take credit for the idea.  That honor goes to Stefan Molyneux.

QuoteThis is why I support the notion that you have no right to any technology newer than the oldest belief you embrace
If you wanna support collectivism, get off the internet.  That's WAY too new fangled for you.
hate capitalism?  Turn your car in and buy a trabant
still believe in religion?  Here's your bucket of leeches next time you need to see the doctor
  Think "unnatural" is inherrently evil?  Next time you wanna travel, start walking!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 04, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-shermer-god-20111104,0,877363.story

QuoteIt's time to drop the God talk and face reality with a steely-eyed visage of the modern understanding of the origin of freedom on which the United States was founded and continues to be secured. God has nothing to do with it. If you want freedom and security, you need the following:

The rule of law; property rights; a secure and trustworthy banking and monetary system; economic stability; a reliable infrastructure and the freedom to move about the country; freedom of the press; freedom of association; education for the masses; protection of civil liberties; a clean and safe environment; a robust military for protection of our liberties from attacks by other states; a potent police force for protection of our freedoms from attacks by people within the state; a viable legislative system for establishing fair and just laws; and an effective judicial system for the equitable enforcement of those fair and just laws.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 05, 2011, 04:18:23 PM
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that,' as if that gives them certain rights...It's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well SO FUCKING WHAT?" --Stephen Fry
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 07, 2011, 09:43:06 AM
"It's the loneliest feeling in the world. It's like walking down an empty street and hearing the sound of your own footsteps, knowing that all you have to do is knock on any door and say, 'If you let me in, I'll live the way you want me to live, and think the way you want me to think,' and all the blinds will go up, and all the doors will open, and you'll never be lonely again." --Inherit the Wind
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 07, 2011, 10:02:22 AM
"Like those clouds, a man's heart can't be bound by the will of others."

"Living in a safe, protected place may give you a sense of security but you'll never know true beauty until the filth of the outside world."

- Juuza of the Clouds "Juuza Gaiden"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 11, 2011, 09:16:33 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-ruined-occupy-wall-street-generation/

John Cheese unleashes the torrent of anti-bogons yet again. :)  In the first 2-3 items at least.

Except for #2 which is by all accounts a correlation causation fallacy and a fail; and something long refuted by the fact that we're currently in the most severe depression/recession since the Great Depression; while ignoring all the creators of indie content that don't need to be funded by Hollywood.
(For a more thorough refutation:  http://mises.org/daily/5025/The-Fight-Against-Intellectual-Property )
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 11, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
And ignoring the fact that when Napster came out we were at the height of a VERY big bubble.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 11, 2011, 11:37:28 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 12, 2011, 10:23:33 AM
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QuoteI wonder what the dead of war would say, if they stayed past their demise, and wheeled around the fading battlefield like invisible kites of regret. I wonder what they would say - the hundreds of millions slaughtered by swords and bombs and guns, vaporized into shadows on broken walls, ground into jam beneath the curled feet of tanks - I wonder what they would say to us? I wonder what they said to themselves, in their last moments, before their eyeballs bled from the crushing weight of war descending upon their lives.

I wonder if all the words that herded them like bitter vacant shepherds off the cliff edge of death - I wonder if those words evaporated just before their lives did? All the words like - patriotism, nationalism, religion, country... soldier. I wonder if all of the words that wrapped around them like a strangling anaconda mummy tape flew away from them before they died, and revealed only the sand - the dead sand - of nonexistence. I wonder if they realized, just before they died, that they were going to go the way of the words that led them to their graves, the words that did not exist, that made them not exist... The countries that do not exist, the patriotism - that is to live on bended knee to violent masters - the class that does not exist, that led them to lay down their lives for nothing, for rulers emptier than the words that hung them. And I wonder what they would say, if they could still fly above the ruin of the world that smashed them - and that they smashed... I wonder what they would say, as they saw all of these ghastly, deadly, empty, strangling words - still roaming the human landscape, still slithering like spindly, spidery snakes through the books and teachers and priests and parents and lies and media and print of this world... The words like, 'honor' - the words like: 'medal' - the words, not that they had been ground out by the empty illusions of their elders, but that they had 'fallen,' like a toppling domino that was a human being...

I wonder what they would think of the music played for the dead, who died from words... I wonder what they would think of the tears of the people who stood by their graves; the tears of those whose agony at their loss went as deep and as wide as a bloody ocean. I wonder what they would think of the tears of the people who cried their graves, the people who did not move heaven and earth to stop them from going and marching and falling into the whirling blades of warring death.

I wonder what they would think of those who sobbed at their passing, but did not stop their journey to their end, that did not throw themselves in front of this train of death that scoops and sweeps and grinds and sprays over the bodies of all those it runs into, and over...

And I wonder what these billions of ghosts would say to the young, whose hearts and minds and bodies are currently gripped in the talons of these empty, dead, dying, murdering, cancerous words... The young who are snatched from the dead classrooms of State propaganda, and the dead pews of religious praise for the dead and the dying and the killing and the murdering... To the young held aloft and carried aloft in the steely and stealing talons of these empty words, being carried high above the lands that they're supposed to be 'protecting' - but that no one is invading -- and, in the name of 'defense,' being carried thousands and thousands of miles across oceans, across frightened white upturned faces, and being dropped from these great heights, to fall like dead drones onto houses, onto hospitals, onto electricity plants, onto useless sand - but most of all, onto people - because these dead words carry live people and drop them to merge in a horrible embrace with victims of mass murder. I wonder what they would say to those being carried off by these words and dropped on the innocent...

And I wonder - I think most of all - what these ghosts - who learned too late what it is to die by words, to be slashed by syllables, to be murdered by mouths - what they would say to those of us who still continue to praise this murder, to salute this savagery, to stand stiff before these slumping corpses, to cheer these deaths - and to continue to mouth these empty phrases -- 'national defense,' the 'war on terror,' 'patriot acts,' 'protection,' 'honor,' the 'fallen,' the 'brave,' the 'few'...

Because it is these words that we mouth - these words that we loose from our throats - that fly into the air and fasten their fangs and their talons onto the mouths and the lives of the young. and block their air, and block their future, and hack and slash their potential, and return them to us in a box, or a wheelchair, or crutches, or blind, or shattered in spirit - to become a repetition of war in the home, in brutality against children, in brutality against those they have every right to be enraged at - those who cheered them on their way to murder, and to be murdered...

The war always comes home...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 13, 2011, 12:33:25 PM
"[I'm f]inding the characterization of our upcoming election as a choice between a 'douche' and a 'turd' more than a little annoying. When someone's ordered the deaths of thousands of innocent people calling them a 'douche' doesn't quite cut it. Nor does complaining about how 'disappointed' in them you are." - Stargazer5781
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 15, 2011, 02:38:52 PM
"I'll see your six, and raise you thirty-five!"

Sir Trudy Lacklandia
(to a mugger with a six-inch switchblade, on drawing her broadsword)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2011, 03:53:32 PM
I knew there was a reason I liked Jerry Doyle:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 17, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
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From this forum's Lord T Hawkeye. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 20, 2011, 07:46:28 AM
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Peter Schiff has balls.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 23, 2011, 06:19:08 PM
not exaclt politics or socially related, but I just have to share this as a favorite:


http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

specifically, the one about cuckoos.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 24, 2011, 09:20:09 PM
[yt]BiHGprxyA-0&feature=feedu[/yt]

I can't top this.  Just watch it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2011, 08:26:24 PM
"I don't fucking CARE what it's motivation is!  And neither you nor I can read the minds of those who passed it into law.  I care about what it is, and what it does....So what if it was done with the best of intentions?  Does that in ANY WAY change what it is or what it does?" --ShaneDK in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muwaiFOlY2s)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
[yt]72JIOWGKoKY[/yt]

Dear people saying, "The police were just doing their job."  Get bent.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on December 02, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
Linky to Daily Show Clip "America's Next TARP Model" (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fshar.es%2Fol31T&h=nAQE3GKmW)

The Star Wars bit had me rofl, as well as the line "Our government is the world's dumbest loan shark."

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 05, 2011, 02:41:11 PM
"Matter of internal security – the age-old cry of the oppressor." Jean-Luc Picard

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 05, 2011, 03:08:04 PM
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no comment.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 06, 2011, 05:06:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 07, 2011, 08:54:17 AM
I'm leaving this set to play from the start so you can see the taxes Chris Pirillo is talking about, but the quoted portion comes at 2:35:

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QuoteBut there's not really much I can do, other than elect someone else who's probably going to raise my taxes or do nothing anyway. It's the same party here in the United States, no matter who you pick, no matter what they say, it's the same party. I don't care what anybody tells you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 09, 2011, 07:49:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 12, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
"Hey, when Saddam held an election with his name as the only choice my government told me it was proof he was a tyrant and I should be proud to be forced to pay to depose him. But when as many as two thirds of the offices up for election in my home state have only a single name my my government told me that was proof of voter satisfaction. I am lucky to have such a smart demopublican administration that can tell the difference for me. Otherwise I might get mixed up about which was tyranny and which was too good to be opposed." --Tom Bailey
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 14, 2011, 07:42:19 AM
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To cancel out the bogons of Rick Perry's original ad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 14, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 12, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
"Hey, when Saddam held an election with his name as the only choice my government told me it was proof he was a tyrant and I should be proud to be forced to pay to depose him. But when as many as two thirds of the offices up for election in my home state have only a single name my my government told me that was proof of voter satisfaction. I am lucky to have such a smart demopublican administration that can tell the difference for me. Otherwise I might get mixed up about which was tyranny and which was too good to be opposed." --Tom Bailey

In a properly operating system, the difference between the first scenario and the second would be that the first is ensured by anyone else who tried getting on the ballot being attacked by the forces of the State, while the second would happen only because most offices are being carried out sufficiently satisfactorily that few people want to bother trying for them themselves.  Unfortunately, in most places, there are steep access restrictions for most elected positions that make it very difficult to get on the ballot in the first place, making it harder to tell the difference than it should be.  Of course, the fact that you don't expect to have somebody come and murder you if you don't pass a ballot access restriction threshold in the US is kind of a give away.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on December 16, 2011, 03:25:23 PM
In a press conference where the Jacksonville Jaguars announced their new owner, a question was asked why he moved a previous business out of Jacksonville

"In the 80s, Jacksonville was the biggest import car market in the world, then the US government imposed a 25% duty called a 'Chicken Tax' and the market died."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 19, 2011, 04:57:22 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 14, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
Of course, the fact that you don't expect to have somebody come and murder you if you don't pass a ballot access restriction threshold in the US is kind of a give away.

As they say, hit them when they least expect it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 22, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
"I am not a pacifist. I just don't feel I have to kill someone to prove it." --R. Lee Wrights

[After someone jokingly asked for a position in his administration] "What agency do you think you can disassemble the quickest?" --R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 22, 2011, 11:43:57 AM
I think these were a pretty good idea (based on my Atheism is a religion like... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/sets/72157625128254937/) series):

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6549421961_865426fed4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549421961/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6549423007_2310d18e03_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549423007/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6549424599_147c0b698c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549424599/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6549426139_98527431eb_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549426139/)

Whaddya think?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 22, 2011, 12:01:40 PM
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One of Pat's better pieces.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 22, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
@VectorM:  Damn it! You beat me to it! :P

Yeah, yet another reason to be against the bogosity known as IP (read: intellectual monopoly).  It's corporatism at it's best (or worst).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 23, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
[spoiler]
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 22, 2011, 11:43:57 AM
I think these were a pretty good idea (based on my Atheism is a religion like... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/sets/72157625128254937/) series):

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6549421961_865426fed4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549421961/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6549423007_2310d18e03_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549423007/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6549424599_147c0b698c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549424599/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6549426139_98527431eb_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6549426139/)

Whaddya think?
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we need more these.

@ VectorM and Surhotchaperchlorome: That video is perfection.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 23, 2011, 05:56:08 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on December 23, 2011, 03:01:41 PMwe need more these.

Always open to ideas.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2011, 01:06:33 PM
Lord T Hawkeye is on fire recently:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
And not just with videos either:

Why are you still a statist? (http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Why-are-you-still-a-statist-219816956)
If they truly believed: feminists (http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/If-they-truly-believed-feminists-261791116)
Murder is murder is murder is murder... (http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Murder-is-murder-is-murder-is-murder-266068524)
The rapist, a case example (http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/The-rapist-a-case-example-269564972)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on December 23, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
we need more these.

I did think of one more:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6565339687_aaf8f8045f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6565339687/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 24, 2011, 05:27:32 PM
I just thought one up: sth about law. religious laws in general, like hindus not eating cows or sth.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2011, 06:53:46 PM
@Ibrahim90:  What does "sth" mean?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 24, 2011, 06:55:58 PM
My apologies in advance for this one Shane, but I simply have to share this one.

From the comments of this video:
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Shane:  "Here's the thing you're missing: politicians, almost to the man, are narcissists (hence the $200 haircuts). They need to look themselves in the mirror and see great men who will go down in history for their great works. Individuals here and there writing in, sure, won't do anything because they aren't swayed by logic and reason. But people writing en masse hits them in their narcissistic faces. And yes, it HAS worked; I can show you cases."

(The win):  Lord T Hawkeye:  "@shanedk Maybe, though as I said in a past vid, you shouldn't HAVE to be doing this in the first place. It's like hiring a security guard to watch over your store but then you have to stay overnight at the store yourself because you keep catching the guard robbing the place.
So you're effectively paying politicians to do the job that you're the one actually doing."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2011, 10:03:22 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 24, 2011, 06:55:58 PM
My apologies in advance for this one Shane, but I simply have to share this one.

Oh, no apologies necessary; I agree with your reply.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 25, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
I'm sure politicians will listen to letters from voters if it's not too inconvenient but when they have to choose between the voting populace and their corporate buddies, I think it's tragically clear who always wins.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 25, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
This is from a character in a comic book named appropriately enough Anarky.

I never heard of him before but after reading this, I think I like him!

QuoteEverything you know is a lie.

Cast your mind back to when you were a child. Remember how life shone out from within? How everything was new and full of golden hope?

And then "they" got to you. The politicians – the priests – the philosophers – the parasites!

This is politics: "Do what you're told or we'll punish you.""

This is religion: "Suffer misery now so you can be happy after death."

This is philosophy: "The universe came from nothing and will one day return to it."

None of these doctrines stands up to rational analysis.

Since the birth of consciousness, hundreds of millions of human beings have been slaughtered by their fellows.

Men – women – children ... snuffed out as if their lives meant nothing.

Why? Because we look to leaders and priests and gurus and "stars" to tell us what to do instead of relying on the powers of our own sovereign minds.

They charge in blood for the privilege of ruling us.

Quoting Einstein out of context, they say that good and evil are relative; that there are no moral absolutes.

They lie. Only two laws are needed to change the entire universe: Never use initiatory force, and never cheat.

The people who run our world constantly break both.

Aristotle believed that man is basically good, decent and noble. If left to his own devices he'll seek individual happiness within an orderly society.

For Aristotle, human life and sovereign consciousness were the universe's greatest values.

But Plato believed man is a wild and savage beast, incapable of self-discipline. To manage him for his own best ends, man needs rulers – kings, governments, priests, presidents.

For Plato, human life is worthless, to be endlessly sacrificed to "higher" causes and ideals.

Which one do you think the world followed?

Mao Tse-Tung spouted a lot of nonsense, but he sure got one thing right: All (political) power comes out the barrel of a gun.

You don't believe me, do you? You live in a democracy. You vote for your leaders.

So tell me – what happens if you want to disobey them?

Say you don't like the President. You object to paying taxes to support him, his family, his pets, his bodyguards and the friends he wangled jobs for. What do you do?

Or say you don't like your taxes being used to subsidize foreign arms sales for slaughter in the third world. How can you stop it?

Vote for somebody else, whose policy is the same? Don't vote?

The government pretends to be there to serve you. In reality, it's there to tell you what to do.

If you refuse to obey, you'll be investigated – arrested – criminalized.

Your assets will be seized and given to the state. You will be jailed.

Albert Einstein said that "The only justifiable purpose of political institutions is to ensure the unhampered development of the individual."

But our institutions are the opposite. They enslave us – rule us by fear and deceit!

They'd gladly bomb us back into the stone age! They don't want the common man to be anything but a slave!

The world has gone wrong. But I swear by every breath in my body – I will put it right again!

In harsh economic terms, there are only two kinds of people in the world: those who produce goods, services and values ... and those who don't.

And before you say what about the old, the young, and the sick – we look after them, right? That's what makes us human.

Intentional non-producers are parasites. To hide their parasitism, they employ the techniques of deception, coercion, and naked force.

Parasites can never create. They can only destroy.

Today, for the first time in history, the parasites outnumber the producers who support them.

They're entering a final feeding frenzy, which will result in the ultimate evil – a totalitarian state.

Where administration bigwigs view the world from stretch limos, while families sleep in cardboard boxes –

Corrupt businessmen flourish, while honest men beg in the gutter –

Crime explodes – while decent folk are afraid to walk the streets their taxes pay for.

All human life is there – from the best to the worst, the kings in their fortresses to the scum in their sties. And all of them believe it has to be that way.

I'm going to show them that it doesn't.

The world is collapsing. Madness flares everywhere the animal mind reclaims the conscious mind.

The religious slaughters – the inter-tribal massacres – the wars for oil – have turned our planet into a charnel pit.

Grinding poverty affects half mankind. 20 million people die each year because they're hungry.

And who pays for the parasites who cause it all? The common man ... his wife ... their children.

The elites have always won. The common man has always lost.

Until tonight.

I merely intend to hold up a mirror, and say – "See what you are, and see what you could be.

"Mankind is poised between a future in the stars, and a future in the mud. So stop the killing – stop the lies – and let's start living!"

Imagine – you're a child again. Filled with innocence, and wonder, and life. Remember how good it felt?

That's what the parasites stole from us. They bled us dry. And like sheep we lined up to give more blood.

But we can have back all that they stole, and more.

The information age provides a spotlight the parasites can't squirm away from.

Identify them. Negate their evil. Ostracize them.

Step with me into a better world.

– Anarky
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
To all the "my country tis of thee" jingoists and "America--Love it or leave it!" fucktards,
This one's for you:

http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/AmericaLoveIt.htm
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 28, 2011, 02:22:31 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 24, 2011, 06:53:46 PM
@Ibrahim90:  What does "sth" mean?

something. it's a shorthand (sorta).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 28, 2011, 07:42:39 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2011, 09:25:07 AM
From Steve Kubby on his Facebook page:

QuoteTHOUGHTS ON TURNING 65 YEARS OLD TODAY

First of all, I never thought I would ever live to the ripe old age of 65 AND if I did live that long, I would be an old geezer for sure. Nothing in my wildest imagination prepared me for the reality that I'd be skiing over a million vertical feet a year, heading up two companies and helping to repeal California's horrible marijuana laws.

I was 28 when doctors first told me I had malignant pheochromocytoma (adrenal cancer), that it was terminal and that I had as little as six months to live. The following summer everyone pitched in and helped to run Earth Camp One and we had a good year, even though I was bedridden and in terrible pain much of the time.

That's when my old college roommate, Cheech Marin dropped by for a visit and offered me a joint. I explained that marijuana is bad for the immune system, or so I thought, and I declined his offer. Cheech was determined to get me high and pointed out that if I only had six months to live, I might I well enjoy it. So we toked up and had a great time.

The next morning, when I took my blood pressure, it was normal for the first time in months. I couldn't and wouldn't allow myself to believe it, but after several weeks it was obvious that cannabis was controlling my hypertension and other symptoms of my disease.

So here I am, stunned and amazed to be turning 65, healthy and happy to be alive, surrounded by wonderful friends and awesome children, grateful beyond words for this healing herb that has saved my life.

I'm also very grateful to my friend Cheech, for being there to guide me towards the discovery that cannabis really is good medicine.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 28, 2011, 05:12:39 PM
beautiful story.

well, here's a good one.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2011, 07:34:09 PM
"Barack Obama has continued and expanded genocidal activities in the middle east, including the use of radioactive and chemical weapons that prevent pregnancy. He has overseen the mass slaughter of Africans in Somalia and the occupation of Uganda. He continues the blatantly racist drug war. He holds the record for most deportations of any president in American history. Ron Paul seeks to end most or all of these things. If you are truly anti-racist, you have much bigger fish to fry than him." --Stargazer5781 via a bulletin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 30, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
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I wish Molyneux wouldn't call the Federal Reserve a "Semi Private Bank".  It isn't.  It's a government central bank.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.  We ask not your counsels or your arms.  Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.  May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."  -- Samuel Adams
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 06, 2012, 08:44:20 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 06, 2012, 05:05:16 PM
"Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free."

Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 07, 2012, 04:21:30 PM
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It was great until it turned into a Ron Paul love fest.

I like Ron and all, but when you're talking about how Republicans and Democrats are the same, and how elections are a farce, you don't finish the segment by endorsing another Republican for that election, even if he does have pretty good ideas.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 07, 2012, 07:07:13 PM
"Too many in the press interpret any public expression--no matter what--as a desire for more government. If rioters burned down IRS offices and lynched IRS agents, these reporters would assume the rioters were upset because their taxes were too low." --Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 09, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
"A government dogmatist is someone who, after government has legislated away all non-government alternatives, says that Libertarians are hypocrites for not using those alternatives." --Me

(For talking points purposes, "alternatives" are things like private fire departments, private post offices, private roads, etc.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2012, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
"A government dogmatist is someone who, after government has legislated away all non-government alternatives, says that Libertarians are hypocrites for not using those alternatives." --Me

(For talking points purposes, "alternatives" are things like private fire departments, private post offices, private roads, etc.)
True.
That.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 09, 2012, 07:53:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 09, 2012, 10:52:58 PM
    "Next time someone's in court for missing some obscure tax payment, he should just say 'I'll be my own defense' and just bring in book after book after book after book of the tax code, look at the judge and say 'are you kidding me?!  Ignorance of the law is no excuse?  Does ANYBODY know what's in these books?  No!  Don't give me this ridiculous nonsense.'"  - Stefan
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 10, 2012, 12:08:53 AM
@LordTHawkeye: I posted a comment about why you went over 10....I think you might be interested in it.  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 10, 2012, 12:40:38 AM
Jerry Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy.

"    in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: those who work to further the actual goals of the organization, and those who work for the organization itself. Examples in education would be teachers who work and sacrifice to teach children, vs. union representatives who work to protect any teacher including the most incompetent. The Iron Law states that in all cases, the second type of person will always gain control of the organization, and will always write the rules under which the organization functions."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 10, 2012, 06:40:24 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 10, 2012, 12:08:53 AM
@LordTHawkeye: I posted a comment about why you went over 10....I think you might be interested in it.  :P

"These go to 11!" --Spın̈al Tap
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 10, 2012, 11:41:01 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2012, 06:40:24 AM
"These go to 11!" --Spın̈al Tap

;D

actually, it's the fact that he made a Doug Walker reference (he is the Nostalgia critic/thatguywiththeglasses).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 13, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
"There's not an exercise or workout that can be done with an audience that wouldn't be far more comfortable being done alone." -- (From #5 on the list) (http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-jerks-you-meet-in-every-gym/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 14, 2012, 09:40:56 AM
"The problem with political jokes is they get elected." - Henry Cate
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2012, 06:14:30 PM
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Never thought I'd post one of SMOSH's videos in this thread.  But yeah.  That one was made of win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 16, 2012, 10:54:15 AM
"Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' And Vanity comes along and asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But Conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. I believe today that there is a need for all people of good will to come together with a massive act of conscience and say in the words of the old Negro spiritual, 'We ain't goin' study war no more.'" --Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 19, 2012, 03:44:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 19, 2012, 07:32:37 PM
Just got through watching that. Good speech!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 21, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
well, keeping to the idea that one places favorite quotes here (no one said what topic), I thought I'd add this. for some context, this is a modding project for Medieval II: total war, called Europa Barbarorum II. it's been going on since 2009, and the wait...well, it plays with people's minds:


http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?118629-Twitter-discussion/page53 (it goes on to the next page or two)

here's what I thought was the best of the bunch-it's about[wiki]Tarbosaurus[/wiki]' (farcical) use in the Hellenistic era:

Quote from: moonburnhistorically their main problem was that you couldn´t have cavalry if you used those babies and if we consider that todays closest living relative to those beauty´s are the chicken then their original place of domestication south east asia doesn´t show up in our map wich brings in more problems in explaining and portraying the enviroment in wich they ended up being domesticated originally, most archeological evidences show that at the start they consumed only 1 virgin every 2 weeks per animal until people started to feed them with pigs and other mamals wich lead to an increase in their methabolic rate and their numbers increased dramatically wich caused demographic problems due to the competition for food most empires that used them where considered invincible but fell down due to internal problems because everytime there was a draught those babies revolted and started eating the peasents wich lead to popular outcry against the excessive budget of the army required to mantain those special units wich where inefective in amphibious attacks or against simple stakes in the ground

in many ways and in comparison with todays civilizations they could be considered the atom bomb of their day since the creation costs too much resources and once you use them you´ll be doomed in the short medium term so yes they look nice but their priçe goes far beyond their recruitment cost (/stupidity)

and yes, I did (accidentally) start this-the silly paleontologist in me. I fear it might become a meme.  :shrug:

and yes, I do feel embarrassed by this.  :-[

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 21, 2012, 09:37:19 PM
"If you truly love the unborn, the LAST thing you should want to do is turn it into the incredible failure the War on Drugs has been." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 21, 2012, 02:03:54 AMwell, keeping to the idea that one places favorite quotes here (no one said what topic)
It doesn't matter the topic.  It's fairly open-ended as should be implied from Hawkeye's first post to this thread.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2012, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 21, 2012, 09:37:19 PM
"If you truly love the unborn, the LAST thing you should want to do is turn it into the incredible failure the War on Drugs has been." --Me
Or support the selling of the unborn via the national debt.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 23, 2012, 09:00:59 AM
NSC is back, baby!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 23, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5268-Piracy-Episode-One-Copyright

I do so love Jim Sterling.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 23, 2012, 06:08:51 PM
"The real test of a radical or revolutionary is not the willingness to confront the orthodoxy and arrogance of the rulers but the readiness to contest the illusions and falsehoods among close friends and allies." --Christopher Hitchens
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 24, 2012, 07:09:54 AM
"Everything you want is on the other side of fear." --R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 24, 2012, 12:34:09 PM
Full of win: http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/24/do-we-need-a-law-to-make-people-think

QuoteMembers of the General Assembly seem to have some kind of disassociative disorder. When a woman walks into a gun store, socially conservative legislators like Cole treat her as rational, well informed, and fully capable of making her own decisions without a lot of "bureaucratic red tape." But if the same woman walks into an abortion clinic, suddenly she's an addled dimwit who hasn't given her decision two seconds' thought, and somebody needs to make her.

It's probably fair to say many of the more liberal members of the Assembly share the same biases in reverse: Women who get abortions have thought long and hard, they believe, but gun buyers are just walking blends of testosterone and nitroglycerine, ready to explode at the slightest nudge.

This doesn't paint a very flattering picture of the citizens the lawmakers represent. But the picture it paints of the legislators themselves should be downright embarrassing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 24, 2012, 04:25:20 PM
"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.
Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.
This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic." - Tim Thomas on why he didn't go to the White House with the rest of the Boston Bruins.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 25, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
From a question on reddit to Barry Eisler, author and former CIA case officer.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ouml9/iama_bestselling_novelist_and_former_cia_who/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ouml9/iama_bestselling_novelist_and_former_cia_who/)

"Is it true that the CIA created dinosaurs to discourage time travel?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 25, 2012, 11:19:14 PM
And one of Barry Eisler's response to a question about SOPA.

"Sometimes the answer is that the government really is inept. But other times, you have to be careful about assuming you understand the true objective in play. If you assume wrongly, the tactics the government is using to achieve what you assume is the objective will seem stupid. If you correctly understand the objective, though, the tactics can be impressively sound.

On SOPA, for example, if you assume stopping piracy is the true objective, the bill seems stupid. If you understand that the true objective is the expansion of government power over the citizenry, the bill makes sense."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 25, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
And speaking of piracy:  http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5268-Piracy-Episode-One-Copyright

Wow.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 26, 2012, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on January 25, 2012, 11:19:14 PMOn SOPA, for example, if you assume stopping piracy is the true objective, the bill seems stupid. If you understand that the true objective is the expansion of government power over the citizenry, the bill makes sense."

And if you understand that the true objective is to stop independent bands and filmmakers from having an efficient means of distributing their content outside the cartels of the MPAA and RIAA, it makes even more sense!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 26, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
Always follow the money.  For example, who lobbied for SOPA?

Or who lobbied for socialized healthcare?  Was it patients who weren't getting the care they needed?  I think not.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 26, 2012, 04:48:07 PM
Ron Paul Would Ignite the Debate If He Said This: http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/ron-paul-would-ignite-the-debate-if-he-said-this/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2012, 05:47:22 PM
@Shane:  I loved this bit:  "Our campaign has received twice as much money in donations from active-duty military than all other Republican candidates combined, and I've been endorsed by the former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit, who says the other candidates are feeding you propaganda instead of the truth.

"Mitt Romney's top donors are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and Morgan Stanley. Mine are the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force."

Reminds me of that one conservative former friend of mine who blathered on about how he's for the military, basically acting like they're his gang (seriously).  The kicker?  He's against Ron Paul because he's convinced he's racist.

Well, if Ron Paul is racist (he's not), then the army is super racist for donating the most money to him.
He supports Mitt Romney as if he's different from Obama, yet criticizes the latter as being a socialist that he wouldn't vote for.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 26, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 26, 2012, 05:47:22 PM
@Shane:  I loved this bit:  "Our campaign has received twice as much money in donations from active-duty military than all other Republican candidates combined, and I've been endorsed by the former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit, who says the other candidates are feeding you propaganda instead of the truth.

"Mitt Romney's top donors are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and Morgan Stanley. Mine are the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force."

Reminds me of that one conservative former friend of mine who blathered on about how he's for the military, basically acting like they're his gang (seriously).  The kicker?  He's against Ron Paul because he's convinced he's racist.

Well, if Ron Paul is racist (he's not), then the army is super racist for donating the most money to him.
He supports Mitt Romney as if he's different from Obama, yet criticizes the latter as being a socialist that he wouldn't vote for.

Well if he supports Mitt Romney and the only difference between them is skin color ask him if that means he's racist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on January 26, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
Well if he supports Mitt Romney and the only difference between them is skin color ask him if that means he's racist.
ZING!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 27, 2012, 09:40:40 AM
"Even while acknowledging that Washington is broken and that Americans have lost faith and trust in government, all President Obama could offer was more interference and government mandates as solutions to the problems government itself has created. His latest gem: "smart regulations to prevent irresponsible behavior." Government is not just broken. It is running out of control, destroying our lives, our liberty, our security and our livelihood."- Lee Wrights (http://wrights2012.com/2012/01/the-state-of-the-union-is-still-a-state-of-war-2/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 27, 2012, 12:09:41 PM
I got on a roll last night

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/art/Justice-for-sale-281738163

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/The-true-cost-of-free-281742738#comments

When my friend showed me the picture in the first one, it just wrote itself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 27, 2012, 02:46:37 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 27, 2012, 12:09:41 PMhttp://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/art/Justice-for-sale-281738163

You should definitely make a video on this point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 27, 2012, 04:11:25 PM
I think I will.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 27, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
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Thereby confirming what most (if not all) of us already knew.  ;)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 27, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
More win from Barry Eisler on the subject of using marketing to brand Republicans as the party of small government.

"If a new party entered the fray on a platform of torture, federalization of end-of-life decisions, federalization of marriage, imprisonment of suspects without trial, use of the military for domestic law enforcement, prohibition of drugs and SWAT raids into family homes to catch people smoking pot, empowering the State Department to strip Americans of their citizenship, and a trillion-dollar-a-year, million-and-a-half-man, eight-hundred-overseas-bases military, would you naturally feel, "At last! A party of small government!"? Yet these are all Republican policies."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 27, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
And my favorite response of his to people who claim Republicans are for small government even if their administrations and legislative representatives never vote that way.

"I suppose you could argue the Republican small government brand persists because the theory of the GOP is small government, with the problem being the corrupt way successive Republican administrations have implemented that theory. Maybe. But on that argument, shouldn't Communism continue to enjoy a solid brand, too?"

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 27, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
And Barry on the Military.

"The Pentagon as Trustworthy. Let's not even go back to Vietnam; we'll confine our examples just to our current wars, instead. So:

Jessica Lynch. Pat Tillman. The 2007 helicopter attack on Iraqi civilians. The Khataba coverup.

Have you ever known someone who lied even about small things? You immediately knew that person wasn't trustworthy, didn't you? And you didn't trust him thereafter, right? So what's different about the military?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 28, 2012, 01:08:18 PM
"Not only is the amount that prices rise an inflation tax, but also the amount that prices didn't fall is also included in the inflation tax. Due to improvements in productivity, more goods are created so prices should be falling. On the gold standard, prices fell and the economy boomed." -- thesilverjournal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN7lEMXZRMM)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 28, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
"May the good Lord bless and keep the Czar...far away from us!" --Fiddler on the Roof
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2012, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 28, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
"May the good Lord bless and keep the Czar...far away from us!" --Fiddler on the Roof
Eh?  How is this a fail quote?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 30, 2012, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 30, 2012, 10:43:18 AM
Eh?  How is this a fail quote?
Oops, that was supposed to be in Faves.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 30, 2012, 02:50:01 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397278_266047146799092_103005129769962_641315_740800687_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 30, 2012, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: D on January 30, 2012, 02:50:01 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397278_266047146799092_103005129769962_641315_740800687_n.jpg)

now that should be a signature banner  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
Fav not only for treatment of the subject, but also explaining how many economic metrics like inflation adjustment and average wage can lead you to the wrong conclusion.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
Fav not only for treatment of the subject, but also explaining how many economic metrics like inflation adjustment and average wage can lead you to the wrong conclusion.
What is?  I don't see an additional block of text that is in quotes, or a video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2012, 05:30:36 PM
"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean." -- Jesse Cox on SWTOR
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 31, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
What is?  I don't see an additional block of text that is in quotes, or a video.

Damn bogons...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2012, 10:18:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 02, 2012, 08:11:14 PM
(http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/10.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 03, 2012, 02:18:57 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 02, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/end-of-poverty/

Posted on an old friend's facebook page. I wouldn't exactly say he knows any better, but still...

EDIT: Crap! Meant to post this in fail quotes. How do I move posts again?

That's okay. I'll use it to segue into a fav quote about documentaries.


"When I make a film, I never want the film to become a vehicle of social propaganda. If I wanted to do that, I'd make documentaries."
Norman Jewison


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2012, 09:44:05 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2012, 09:46:35 PM
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1:00 - 1:21 -- And how statist twats like him (and Vogter2100 and others) call free market economics "free market fundamentalism".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 06, 2012, 10:51:06 PM
This reminds me of every single Neoconservative I've ever met.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2012, 10:55:47 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 06, 2012, 10:51:06 PM
This reminds me of every single Neoconservative I've ever met.

[yt]AuzPN_8GwYA[/yt]

Who else feels sorry for his (former) girlfriend? :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2012, 01:21:19 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2012, 01:30:33 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 07, 2012, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 06, 2012, 10:55:47 PM
Who else feels sorry for his (former) girlfriend? :P

I do! :P

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 07, 2012, 08:46:52 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 06, 2012, 10:55:47 PM
Who else feels sorry for his (former) girlfriend? :P

I still thought it was hilarious when she hit him with the pistol.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2012, 11:47:49 PM
"Rationalwiki: what happens when Encyclopedia Dramatica takes itself seriously." -- eleutheromaniac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Gc6ukr9JA)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on February 08, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
"Yeah, that's right. Even the Daleks won't watch reality television..." - SFDebris in a review of 'Bad Wolf' when the Daleks are revealed as the masters who "don't watch the shows".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 09, 2012, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 05, 2012, 09:46:35 PM
[yt]PPYLF9QnojE[/yt]

1:00 - 1:21 -- And how statist twats like him (and Vogter2100 and others) call free market economics "free market fundamentalism".

Pony tail looks good on me and don't you ever forget it Maher!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 09, 2012, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 09, 2012, 01:56:53 AMPony tail looks good on me and don't you ever forget it Maher!

I've always thought so.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 10, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Greatest Onion article ever (http://www.theonion.com/articles/iran-worried-us-might-be-building-8500th-nuclear-w,27325/)

QuoteTEHRAN—Amidst mounting geopolitical tensions, Iranian officials said Wednesday they were increasingly concerned about the United States of America's uranium-enrichment program, fearing the Western nation may soon be capable of producing its 8,500th nuclear weapon. "Our intelligence estimates indicate that, if it is allowed to progress with its aggressive nuclear program, the United States may soon possess its 8,500th atomic weapon capable of reaching Iran," said Iranian foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi, adding that Americans have the fuel, the facilities, and "everything they need" to manufacture even more weapons-grade fissile material. "Obviously, the prospect of this happening is very distressing to Iran and all countries like Iran. After all, the United States is a volatile nation that's proven it needs little provocation to attack anyone anywhere in the world whom it perceives to be a threat." Iranian intelligence experts also warned of the very real, and very frightening, possibility of the U.S. providing weapons and resources to a rogue third-party state such as Israel.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 10, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: D on February 10, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Greatest Onion article ever (http://www.theonion.com/articles/iran-worried-us-might-be-building-8500th-nuclear-w,27325/)
The Onion is made of win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 11, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
You know what I wish?  I wish I could edit posts on my youtube or Deviantart channel.
Why?
Next time someone tries to argue that the ends justify the means, I'll simply edit their post to instead have them singing "I'm a happy happy girl"
When they get angry and demand to know why I did that, I'll reply "Your post annoyed me.  Now it doesn't anymore.  The ends justify the means"
- Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 11, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 11, 2012, 11:33:31 AM
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TB rage:  There are no words to describe the awesome.

Me:  "TB hates teh Pon3z?  BLASPHEMY!!!
Though I'm not one to throw stones, as I think Doctor Who (all of it) is high brow stuff for top hat wearing Bourgeois mufuggas."  -- a comment I posted on his video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 11, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
A great video about Obamaton's.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 12, 2012, 12:53:30 PM
To everyone that complains that not allowing laws against gay marriage somehow affects their freedom of religion.

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/417668_371821806161925_275373239140116_1447191_447812794_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 13, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Martial Arts trainer Matt Thornton "You don't try to measure a door by sacrificing a goat, or using divination. Likewise, conclusions that are the result of faith-based processes, things such as astrology, homeopathy, and the power of prayer, have all been shown, conclusively, to not work. Again, faith based processes lead one farther away from truth, not closer."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 14, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/419380_363789976972151_192214550796362_1370413_858847685_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2012, 11:07:28 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 14, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/419380_363789976972151_192214550796362_1370413_858847685_n.jpg)

Is that available in a larger resolution?  The text is far too small to read.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 14, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
Sorry, I got it off of facebook. I could expand it their but not here. I'll look for a bigger one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 14, 2012, 11:39:18 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431255_10150662557695358_653265357_11621324_1724430498_n.jpg)

My girl says the last picture is totally me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 15, 2012, 12:05:02 AM
Much Obliged, Goaticus. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on February 15, 2012, 01:35:32 AM
That is amazingly true.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 15, 2012, 05:52:19 PM
"But this saga exposes a sad underlying truth of American society—that religious individuals have, for all practical purposes, more rights than the non-religious. Freedom of conscience for not only President Obama, but also the media and most members of Congress extends only to those who base their conscientious objections on dogma. Secular moral convictions—like the basic belief that coercion is immoral—need not apply for the president's "religious exception." "

David Bier
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 16, 2012, 07:49:57 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-common-anti-internet-arguments-that-are-statistically-bs/

When John Cheese has it on, he has it ON!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 17, 2012, 08:59:17 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/407120_10151277851520654_788555653_22760345_1137846463_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 17, 2012, 09:28:42 PM
I need to get a box of these buttons.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s320x320/427188_366994019995512_196601040368145_1391151_803929101_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 18, 2012, 01:44:45 PM
"If someone convinces you of a lie, you will come to regard anyone who tells the truth as your enemy." --Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Man is not, like the animals, an obsequious puppet of instincts and sensual impulses. Man has the power to suppress instinctive desires, he has a will of his own, he chooses between incompatible ends." - The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
"Under the division of labor, the structure of society rests on the shoulders of all men and women."

— Ludwig von Mises, in Bureaucracy


You gotta love Mises.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2012, 08:49:46 PM
"'Who is the biggest underdog of all time?'  The masses."

—  Stefan Molyneux
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 20, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
As stupid as some internet memes are, I will never get tired of this one.

(http://geke.us/InflationMeme.001.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 01:03:47 AM
In the Austrian School's defense, the 5th and last panels of are not mutually exclusive.
I've yet to meet an Austrian who didn't refer to inflation as both the "inflation tax" AND as the biggest cause of the boom & bust cycle.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 20, 2012, 06:59:28 AM
I would say other than the "What Keynesians think" panel all of the rest at least have a point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 20, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 20, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
As stupid as some internet memes are, I will never get tired of this one.

I'm amazed I haven't seen one for atheism yet, so I made one:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6910507613_3051b464e0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6910507613/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 20, 2012, 06:59:28 AM
I would say other than the "What Keynesians think" panel all of the rest at least have a point.
Yes, can't that always be said of Keynesians?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 20, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
I'm amazed I haven't seen one for atheism yet, so I made one:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6910507613_3051b464e0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6910507613/)
Saved.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 07:42:45 PM
Make no mistake, the only reason I put this video here is because it's in the "so bad it's fucking hilarious" zone:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 08:37:13 PM
Since we're on the topic on awesome memes, I was inspired to make this caption from posts by JohnRainRules on Shane's latest:

(http://d.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/14940291.jpg)

Huge thanks to D for showing me that meme--Liberal Douche Garofalo.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
Another bonus one I found:

(http://c.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/11686506.jpg)

Fucking pwnage.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 20, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
this guy is batshit insane, and his politics on closer look are , but you have to admit, this is worth watching:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 20, 2012, 10:19:02 PM
My favorite of the Garofalo meme.

(http://e.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/11742556.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 22, 2012, 01:10:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 22, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
Best refutation of foreign aid by Imran Khan, head of Pakistan's Movement for Justice talking about Pakistans Punjab province rejecting U.S. aid after drone strikes.

"We need reforms but this aid stops any real reform. If any money goes to the Pakistan government, it will not reach the people who need it."

http://www.skepticallibertarian.com/2012/02/pakistani-province-rejects-american-aid.html (http://www.skepticallibertarian.com/2012/02/pakistani-province-rejects-american-aid.html)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 22, 2012, 05:03:43 PM
Responding to Mitt Romney converting his outspokenly atheist father in law to Mormonism after he died. This site lets you convert any dead Mormon to homosexuality. http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/ (http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 25, 2012, 12:18:21 AM
"I'd call these bills insane except that, like many bills that seem insane when you judge them by their ostensible purposes, this one begins to make a great deal of sense when you understand what it's really intended to do. For example, you might wonder why the Bush administration scooped up thousands of terror suspects and tortured them in Guantanamo and black sites, or why Obama administration has been so public about its torture of accused Wikileaks whistleblower Bradley Manning. Both cases, at first blush, seem to be public relations disasters for the politicians in question, and it's only when you understand what these politicians are in fact trying to accomplish—a demonstration that the US government can pluck you out of any recognizable legal framework, prevent you even from access to a lawyer and from visits from the Red Cross, hold you indefinitely and abuse and torture you mercilessly—that you can begin to understand that these policies are not insane, but are instead carefully designed to strike fear into the hearts of anyone who might oppose US policy or undermine its obsessive secrecy. "

Barry Eisler on SOPA and PIPA
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 25, 2012, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 25, 2012, 12:18:21 AM
"I'd call these bills insane except that, like many bills that seem insane when you judge them by their ostensible purposes, this one begins to make a great deal of sense when you understand what it's really intended to do. For example, you might wonder why the Bush administration scooped up thousands of terror suspects and tortured them in Guantanamo and black sites, or why Obama administration has been so public about its torture of accused Wikileaks whistleblower Bradley Manning. Both cases, at first blush, seem to be public relations disasters for the politicians in question, and it's only when you understand what these politicians are in fact trying to accomplish—a demonstration that the US government can pluck you out of any recognizable legal framework, prevent you even from access to a lawyer and from visits from the Red Cross, hold you indefinitely and abuse and torture you mercilessly—that you can begin to understand that these policies are not insane, but are instead carefully designed to strike fear into the hearts of anyone who might oppose US policy or undermine its obsessive secrecy. "

Barry Eisler on SOPA and PIPA
Really, this quote explains far better than I could why I think Shane's naivety in this thread  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1335 is completely unfounded.
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 25, 2012, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 22, 2012, 05:03:43 PM
Responding to Mitt Romney converting his outspokenly atheist father in law to Mormonism after he died. This site lets you convert any dead Mormon to homosexuality. http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/ (http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/)

perfect! I've just converted Joseph Smith Sr., the founder of Mormonism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 25, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 25, 2012, 08:07:02 PM
perfect! I've just converted Joseph Smith Sr., the founder of Mormonism.

I converted Mitt's father.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 26, 2012, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 25, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
I converted Mitt's father.

damn it! I was gonna do that today!  :P

meh...I've just convert the following instead:

Miles Archibald Romney (A great-great-grandfather)
Parley P. Pratt (another ancestor of his).
Lenore Romney (his mom).

I'd convert the siblings, but they're all alive.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 26, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
http://mises.org/daily/5862/University-Guildsmen-and-Anticapitalism
As a university student myself, this really hits home for me.  This author is one of the ONLY libertarians I've heard with the balls (no pun intended) to criticise college education at this fundamental a level.  Shane for example (with few--if any exceptions), refuses to touch it.

While it is true that Penn & Teller criticized it, they didn't go after the systemic issues.  At least not to a level of depth employed here.
And yes, Peter Schiff has spoken of the cost, but he really glossed over the reasons of "why".  He merely cited "gov't subsidized loans" and called it a day.  Nor has Shane, Schiff or Penn and Teller, as far as I'm aware, relate it to the anti-capitalist mentality of intellectuals produced by the college system--a guild (feudal equivalent of labor union) system dating back over 900 years from Europe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 26, 2012, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on February 26, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
Shane for example (with few--if any exceptions), refuses to touch it.

I see two problems with doing so: one, college IS necessary for many professions (doctor, lawyer, etc.), and two, colleges range all over the place in terms of quality, philosophy, and systemic approach. I completely agree, though, that most people who go to college don't need it and aren't likely to get the value out of it for the time, effort, and money they put in.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 26, 2012, 09:33:11 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 26, 2012, 08:19:10 PM
I see two problems with doing so: one, college IS necessary for many professions (doctor, lawyer, etc.), and two, colleges range all over the place in terms of quality, philosophy, and systemic approach. I completely agree, though, that most people who go to college don't need it and aren't likely to get the value out of it for the time, effort, and money they put in.

Nor would it change the shear volume of state involvement.
And before you say so, YES I'm aware you graduated from a private college.  But still, they have the some problem of private schools, where you pay twice for the same service (remember, you pay taxes for public colleges whether you go or not).  And even if that weren't an issue, when the private schools are competing against state supported crap, I find it hard to believe that the overall quality wouldn't suffer as well.  Also, last I checked, private schools are subject to huge amounts of regulation and bs laws just like public schools, even if to a somewhat lesser extend.  And really, it also still wouldn't refute (or explain) the lack of talk of a free market in college education.

That's like saying, "well, some sicknesses REQUIRE a doctor" as an excuse to have state controlled healthcare and then pointing to various states with different policies on doctors, etc.  Kinda like what we have now:  and last I checked you aren't for the status quo for healthcare in this country, so why make an exception for college?  Especially when it TRAINS the same people you just spoke of in healthcare?

Also, it still wouldn't address the vast state imposed barriers to entry imposed by the state on colleges that the article discussed (you DID read it, right?).  Again, last I checked, you weren't for those in healthcare either, so why make an exception for this?

And what do you mean "college is necessary"?  Last I checked, you don't have a crystal ball for determining that sort of thing, and neither do I.  That is for the free market to decide, not bullshit fiat claims like that.  Do you mean a state supported guild system is "needed" for us to have doctors?   If not, word your post more clearly.  If so, how is that any different from a state cultist saying, "WITHOUT GOVERNMENT THE POOR WOULD ALL DIE FROM THE LACK OF WELFARE, GOV'T HEALTHCARE AND THE OLD WOULD DIE IN THE STREETS WITHOUT SOCIAL SECURITY?"  Really, unless I'm misinterpreting your post, you really are coming off as a full blown state cultist/creationist with your reply.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 28, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
[yt]G5r8D750Wsk[/yt]

sent me in fits of laughter.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 28, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 28, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
[yt]G5r8D750Wsk[/yt]

sent me in fits of laughter.
Oh, that's one's a classic.  It was on Mark's old channel before it got DMCA'ed into oblivion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 29, 2012, 07:46:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 01, 2012, 09:40:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 02, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
Many people procrastinate because their goals lack balls quite frankly. Their goals are just uninspiring. They are intended to be realistic and therefore they don't motivate you to plow through or dodge the inevitable hurdles and emotional difficulty and ups and downs that take place.----Tim Ferriss
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 05, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 05, 2012, 01:24:11 PM
(http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/yahoo-answers-troll-i-could-use-a-new-car.jpg)

...I can't top that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 05, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 05, 2012, 01:24:11 PM
(http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/yahoo-answers-troll-i-could-use-a-new-car.jpg)

...I can't top that.

Too bad there's no indication that he believes a word of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 05, 2012, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 05, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
Too bad there's no indication that he believes a word of it.


I think he was referring to the @ginamarie quote beneath Santorum's quote.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 06, 2012, 01:59:57 AM
Robert Bolt, Man for All Seasons
   
    —
    Margaret: "Father, the man is bad."
    More: "There's no law against that."
    Roper: "There is a law against it. God's law."
    More: "Then God can arrest him."
    Roper: "Sophistication upon sophistication!"
    More: "No. Sheer simplicity. The law, Roper, the law. I know what's legal, but I don't always know what's right. And I'm sticking with what's legal.
    Roper: "Then you set man's law against God's?"
    More: "No. Far below. But let me draw your attention to a fact. I am not God. The currents and eddies of right and wrong, which you find such plain sailing, I can't navigate. I'm no voyager. But in the thickets of the law, there I am a forester. I doubt if there's a man alive who could follow me there, thank God."
    Alice: "While you talk, he is gone."
    More: "And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law."
    Roper: "So now you'd give the Devil the benefit of law!"
    More: "Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get to the Devil?"
    Roper: "I'd cut down every law in England to do that!"
    More: "Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you -- where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat. This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast -- man's laws, not God's -- and if you cut them down -- and you're just the man to do it -- do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of the law, for my own safety's sake."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 06, 2012, 02:25:07 AM
hell, the almost whole play where More is (and the movie) are a favorite quotes material.


my favorite line ( in the movie) comes from an interrogation (it's the punchline at the end):

More: but why I will not, Master Secretary, you will not trick out of me.

Cromwell: I might get it out of you in other ways

More: you threaten like a Dockside bully

Cromwell: how should I threaten?

More: like a minister of state: with justice

Cromwell: Justice is what you are threatened with

More: then I am not threatened.



then there is this qyote from the trial (in reply to Cromwell--also from the movie):

More: "the world must construe my silence with its wits, but this court must construe by the law".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 07, 2012, 08:19:35 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on March 07, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
QuoteBy the way, it would be great if foreigners didn't buy anything from us and just gave us cars, computers, televisions, clothing and other goods in exchange for slips of paper with pictures of past presidents such as George Washington, Andrew Jackson and Ulysses Grant. We could live the life of Riley. The world would bestow all manner of goods and services upon us, and all we'd have to do is have a few Americans employed printing dollars that foreigners would hold precious and keep.
http://lewrockwell.com/williams-w/w-williams115.html (http://lewrockwell.com/williams-w/w-williams115.html)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 07, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 07, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
[yt]BNIgztvyU2U[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 09, 2012, 10:45:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/TI53k.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 09, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
    ―Paarthurnax (from Skyrim)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Can-you-spot-the-fundamentalist-289306840

Hawkeye does it again!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 11, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
"If the gold standard could be reintroduced...we all believe that the reform would promote trade and production like nothing else, and would stimulate international credit and transfer of capital to the places where they are most useful. One of the greatest elements of uncertainty would be suppressed."

(Gonna let you try and guess who said this.)

[spoiler]--John Maynard Keynes, Commercial Manchester Guardian, April 20, 1922[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 11, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 11, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
"If the gold standard could be reintroduced...we all believe that the reform would promote trade and production like nothing else, and would stimulate international credit and transfer of capital to the places where they are most useful. One of the greatest elements of uncertainty would be suppressed."

(Gonna let you try and guess who said this.)

[spoiler]--John Maynard Keynes, Commercial Manchester Guardian, April 20, 1922[/spoiler]
Ben Bernanke! :D
*looks at the spoiler*
DAMNIT!  So close!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 13, 2012, 10:26:54 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 14, 2012, 08:38:02 AM
[yt]iQyIVTu-eF0[/yt]

(For those who don't know, Amendment One is a proposed amendment to the North Carolina Constitution which would ban gay marriage.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 14, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 14, 2012, 10:55:11 PM
I can never get enough of the Koney humor.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 15, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
"Somebody should do something. Take command. Control our actions. Direct our thoughts. Dial our desires. The clan elder, the tribal leader, the chiefdom big man, the state king, the central planner, the apparatchik, the lord savior, the infallible pope, the chief rabbi, the dear leader. Someone somewhere somehow will save us by telling us what to do and how to live. The impulse is a deep one that harkens back to our Paleolithic ancestry. It's counterintuitive to think bottom up instead of top down. It is why so many people struggle to truly grasp the deep meaning of evolutionary theory, and it is why so many people fail to see that economic order is the product not of human design but of human action. "

Michael Shermer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 15, 2012, 09:09:43 AM
"Don't forget that Evolution is a lie to cover up the fact that Obama created dinosaurs and had them sent back in time to discourage time travel." —johnrainrules, in these comments: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=arBLUCO8_gM
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 16, 2012, 02:04:30 PM
The wise ruler does not intervene.

The people see the wise ruler, but they see no action.
Lesser rulers do and say a great deal, and the people love them.
Bad rulers use fear and coercion so the people accept them.
The worst rulers are hated.

It is the people's process, not yours. Do not intrude. Do not control. Do not force.
If you do not have faith in the people, they will not have faith in you.

When the great rulers lead, and their accomplishments are finished,
The people will say, "We did it ourselves!"

--Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching, Chapter 17
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 16, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
"When you think about all the people who have used marijuana—from political leaders to sports stars to corporate executives to people from every walk of life—one way to win this battle is for people to just be honest. If everyone who used marijuana stood up and said, "I use this; it's pretty good," the argument would be over."

Peter Lewis CEO of Progressive Auto Insurance.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 16, 2012, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 16, 2012, 02:04:30 PM
The wise ruler does not intervene.

The people see the wise ruler, but they see no action.
Lesser rulers do and say a great deal, and the people love them.
Bad rulers use fear and coercion so the people accept them.
The worst rulers are hated.

It is the people's process, not yours. Do not intrude. Do not control. Do not force.
If you do not have faith in the people, they will not have faith in you.



When the great rulers lead, and their accomplishments are finished,
The people will say, "We did it ourselves!"

--Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching, Chapter 17

Lao Tzu is definitely one of my favorite philosophers. I have a friend who is from China that thinks using the philosophy of Lao Tzu his country may be able to embrace a more limited Government. It seems unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 16, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
(http://www.macromemeless.com/cat/debate-flowchart.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 16, 2012, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 16, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
(http://www.macromemeless.com/cat/debate-flowchart.jpg)
If I had the skills, I would make one of those for anarchism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 16, 2012, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 16, 2012, 02:04:30 PM
The wise ruler does not intervene.

The people see the wise ruler, but they see no action.
Lesser rulers do and say a great deal, and the people love them.
Bad rulers use fear and coercion so the people accept them.
The worst rulers are hated.

It is the people's process, not yours. Do not intrude. Do not control. Do not force.
If you do not have faith in the people, they will not have faith in you.

When the great rulers lead, and their accomplishments are finished,
The people will say, "We did it ourselves!"

--Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching, Chapter 17

as much as I entertain myself by punning the fellow's name, I have to concede: his philosophy is awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 19, 2012, 08:03:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 19, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 20, 2012, 05:39:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sSmJ6.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 21, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
A Republican and a Libertarian go on a walk together. The Republican says, "If you Libertarians were in control, why, people would be fornicating in the public parks." The Libertarian looks at him with a devilish grin and says, "What public parks?" - Mikey Luther
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 23, 2012, 10:55:03 PM
   
"This is not prose. This is the systematic abuse of prose. Anyone hoping to learn writing should stay a thousand miles away from people who write in such a manner. That is, they should stay a thousand miles away from most university professors."

Michael Ellsburg writing about this monstrosity.


"An element of a shared symbolic system which serves as a criterion or standard for selection among the alternatives of orientation which are intrinsically open in a situation may be called a value. . . But from this motivational orientation aspect of the totality of action it is, in view of the role of symbolic systems, necessary to distinguish a 'value orientation' aspect. This aspect concerns, not the meaning of the expected state of affairs to the actor in terms of his gratification-deprivation balance but the content of the selective standards themselves. The concept of value-orientations in this sense is thus the logical device for formulating one central aspect of the articulation of cultural traditions in the action system.

   " It follows from the derivation of normative orientation and the role of values in action as stated above, that all values involve what may be called a social reference. . . It is inherent in an action system that action is, to use one phrase, "normatively oriented." This follows, as was shown, from the concept of expectations and its place in action theory, especially in the 'active' phase in which the actor pursues goals. Expectations then, in combination with the 'double contingency' of the process of interaction as it has been called, create a crucially imperative problem of order. Two aspects of this problem of order may in turn be distinguished, order in the symbolic systems which make communication possible, and order in the mutuality of the motivational orientation to the normative aspect of expectations, the 'Hobbesian' problem of order"


Seriously, why do some people think that writing like the post modernism generator makes them sound intelligent.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 24, 2012, 12:50:55 AM
How I wish Saur was here to read this.  He could learn so much...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 25, 2012, 12:58:23 PM
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I love this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 26, 2012, 01:26:07 AM
He says a lot of stupid shit, but I have to give him credit for integrity.

[yt]HrKKkGl3TnY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 26, 2012, 01:58:56 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/538557_376348699065061_252012271498705_1203992_280402659_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 26, 2012, 05:53:27 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on March 26, 2012, 01:26:07 AM
He says a lot of stupid shit, but I have to give him credit for integrity.

[yt]HrKKkGl3TnY[/yt]

I wonder if Judge Napolitano dealt with the same shit.  ::)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 26, 2012, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: VectorM on March 26, 2012, 05:53:27 AM
I wonder if Judge Napolitano dealt with the same shit.  ::)

I'd be really surprised if he didn't deal with a lot worse.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 26, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/536770_368683209839043_358807237493307_1064634_739982391_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 26, 2012, 01:07:30 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 26, 2012, 06:26:43 PM
"        This thief points a gun to the head of the miner and says "pay me a cut of your profits so I won't shoot you in the head"
        Then he points a gun at the smelter and says "pay me a cut of your profits so I wont' shoot you in the head"
        Then he points a gun at the tractor maker and says "pay me a cut of your profits so I won't shoot you in the head"
        Then he points a gun at the milk farmer and says "pay me a licensing fee so I won't shoot you in the head."
        Then when your grandma goes to buy some milk, he points a gun at her head and says "Pay me some of hte money in your purse so I won't shoot you in the head so I can give some of it back to you later so you can buy milk"
        And he keeps some of the money he steals at every step along the way.  With the end result that milk is more expensive and grandma overall has less money to buy milk.
        If this is "the public good", then fuck the public good"

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Two more parts which are even better
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 26, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 27, 2012, 12:42:55 AM
"I NEVER claimed to be unbiased." -- Shane

Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 27, 2012, 12:46:42 AM
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/11/23/the-truth-is-out-there%E2%80%A6isn%E2%80%99t-it-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/


I love this particular podcast's insights into human biases.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 27, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
(http://www.macromeme.com/cat/foo-fighter-piracy.jpg)

Give this man a free sugary food of his choice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 27, 2012, 04:44:17 PM
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Egoraptor = win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 28, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 28, 2012, 10:09:50 PM
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/Nnedd/Worded%20pictures/funny-pictures-history-censorship-its-kinda-like-that.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 29, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 30, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 30, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Replace "religion" with "government" and I think it's equally applicable:

"Why is it expected we afford religion respect? Because it is old? The belief in a flat earth is old, yet it is mocked. Because it is true? There is not a shred of evidence. Because it is good? Its record is, at best, mixed. Because it is universal? Believers cannot even agree amongst themselves. All that remains is the age old human failing of pride, which responds angrily when challenged."-- Maximilian Montserrat
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 30, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on March 29, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s320x320/545000_265941916826852_157750900979288_593857_2136098297_n.jpg)

While this is probably very good, it works better if it's big enough to read the text.
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Post by: Goaticus on March 30, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
For those of us who remember Ghost Busters.

(http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/6868733332874257360)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 30, 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Well, you didn't post one, so I'll do one from Ghostbusters:

"Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've worked in the private sector. They expect results!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 31, 2012, 12:49:15 AM
The destructor is what Gozer the Gozerian called the entity that became the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man. She told the Ghost Busters that they could choose their destroyer so everyone tries to clear their minds. Aykroyd tries to think of the least intimidating thing in the whole world and comes up with the Marshmellow Man.

The logo on the shirt is framing the next election as the exact same kind of choice.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
The logo on what shirt?
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Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2012, 11:55:41 AM
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." --Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 31, 2012, 03:49:30 PM
 
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 31, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
The logo on what shirt?

The image I posted has a guy wearing a shirt that says choose the form of the destructor and has a picture of the republican elephant and democratic donkey. For some reason I can see it from my computer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 31, 2012, 03:53:31 PM
This should be the same phrase if the other one isn't visible to everyone.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/demotivators_2204_3943255)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2012, 04:47:47 PM
OK, yeah, the other one's not visible.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 02, 2012, 07:03:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 03, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on April 03, 2012, 05:57:36 PM
Saw this on Morrakiu's Facebook page:


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EDIT: Here's the source of the figures, although they've been revised since the graphic was made: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
either way, it's now even higher: 262 million dead by the hands of government.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 04, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
either way, it's now even higher: 262 million dead by the hands of government.

Yeah, I think if they make a poster a hundred years from now it is going to be even more lopsided in terms of body count.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 01:36:10 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on April 04, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
Yeah, I think if they make a poster a hundred years from now it is going to be even more lopsided in terms of body count.

I'd rather not think about that, as I'm sure the number would be too disturbing for my already fragile sanity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 04, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 04:49:57 PM
"they made him look like he wants to go hunt smurfs!"

a friend of mine when he saw this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies#Photo_manipulation

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 04, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 04:49:57 PM
"they made look like he wants to go hunt smurfs!"

a friend of mine when he saw this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies#Photo_manipulation

Which one was he talking about?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 04, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
Which one was he talking about?

what they did to Steven Reddicliff's photo.

he was basically making fun of how FOX news Photoshopped his face. heck, he was just plain making fun of FOX news.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 05, 2012, 04:12:47 PM
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Sources for reports mentioned in video:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/15/world/la-fg-us-uganda-20111015
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-waives-child-soldier-ban-yemen-congo/story?id=14663930#.T33ooKtSRdU
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Post by: Goaticus on April 06, 2012, 12:30:25 PM

"Leftists are warmongers who like socialism, while claiming to denounce warmongering. Rightists are socialists who like warmongering, while claiming to denounce socialism. This is the crucial difference between the two groups."-Benjamin Richards
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 07, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Heresy for Obamatons.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 07, 2012, 09:25:37 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 08, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 08, 2012, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 08, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
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An oldie but a goodie!

On a related note, one more reason Daniel "Harry Potter" Radcliffe is made of awesome:

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EDIT: And for more awesomeness, his appearance on QI:

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Post by: AnCap Dave on April 10, 2012, 11:25:35 AM
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Post by: evensgrey on April 10, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: D on April 10, 2012, 11:25:35 AM
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Up here in Canada, the long-running CBC Radio 1 show Ideas made a documentary about a group of Peruvian academics who explored this problem of bad and excessive laws on the books getting in the way of people operating businesses.

They got interested when Peru tried to sell of the public telephone monopoly for something like $100 million, and nobody would touch it.  When the government investigated why, they found out that Peru's property laws were so screwed up it was impossible to tell what, exactly, was for sale (and no deal of this scale where the actual thing for sale is poorly defined will ever pass Due Diligence).  Peru cleaned up the relevant parts of their property laws, and sold it for over $1 billion.

The worst example they had was trying to build a house in Egypt, on an empty patch of desert with no historical or archeological significance whatsoever, and literally no value to anyone except the person who wants to build the house.  Working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year (what we in the developed world consider a full-time job level of effort) they calculated it would take more than 10 years to go through all the paperwork to do it legally and get official government documentation on it.  This is simply not worth the effort for most people under any circumstances, so more than 80$ of all buildings in Egypt have no official paperwork, and on a good many of the rest the official paperwork is off in fantasy land as far as what actually exists.  (Many other countries that have failed to develop have similar, if less severe, situations.)

The consequences of this are indeed dire:  With no accurate, official paperwork on most properties, it is impossible for their to be a functional system of property law, which makes it impossible for people to get things like mortgages.  In the developed world, you can buy a home using a mortgage, which is just a loan secured by the value of the home itself.  If you have equity (that is, the home is worth more than any mortgages against it) you can get a mortgage on that difference to pay for things like renovations, or to finance a business start up or expansion.  None of this is possible in places like Egypt, which is an important factor in places like Egypt (which is practically carpeted in small business people, some of whom are clearly going to have the skill, drive, and luck to build up their businesses to become quite wealthy, and many more who are quite able to make a nice living from expanded businesses, and others whom would probably prefer the greater security that comes with working for someone else in a larger business or have skill sets better suited to that) simply fail to develop.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 10, 2012, 10:30:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 11, 2012, 01:22:38 AM
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srsly though, TJ is stupid, if he cannot get his priorities straight.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 11, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 11, 2012, 01:22:38 AM
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srsly though, TJ is stupid, if he cannot get his priorities straight.

And if he thinks that there's something wrong with Ron Paul on the basis of what the cleric he gets sermons from says, how much worse is Obama for the sermons HIS cleric gives?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 11, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 11, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
And if he thinks that there's something wrong with Ron Paul on the basis of what the cleric he gets sermons from says, how much worse is Obama for the sermons HIS cleric gives?

exactly.

of course, good luck getting TJ to say anything about that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 11, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Made this myself but I'll be damned if it isn't accurate.

(http://oi40.tinypic.com/25sly8p.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 11, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 11, 2012, 01:22:38 AM
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srsly though, TJ is stupid, if he cannot get his priorities straight.

The sad thing is that isn't in my top ten of reasons I think TJ is stupid.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 11, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: D on April 11, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Made this myself but I'll be damned if it isn't accurate.

(http://oi40.tinypic.com/25sly8p.jpg)

:D

ok, because you did this, I expect on election day that you video tape a MK 1 match--complete with a fatality--uploaded on YT, with the politicians' names replacing the originals. Scorpion is prefered, though Kano is acceptable. :P

EDIT: yes, you are accurate in this assessment. and whenever I start making videos again, I'll make sure this somehow gets into one. and come to think of it, MK2 is acceptable too, with Baraka being perfect for your purposes :P

Quote from: Goaticus on April 11, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
The sad thing is that isn't in my top ten of reasons I think TJ is stupid.

that sounds scary. there is no way around it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 13, 2012, 08:25:39 AM
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Post by: evensgrey on April 13, 2012, 10:57:13 AM
Here's a dandy document, chock full of the kind of historical goodness that would make a Roosevelt apologist's eye spin...IF you can get them to actually read the damn thing.

(Went looking to see just how hard it is to turn up non-false unemployment statistics for 1929-1946, and rapidly turned this gem up.  WildwoodClaire1 doesn't know anything about history or economics, but correcting her can turn up some nifty stuff.)

http://fee.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/greatmythsdepression2008feemcppfinalweb.pdf (http://fee.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/greatmythsdepression2008feemcppfinalweb.pdf)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 14, 2012, 03:01:16 PM
my friend Kyle the other day posted this lovely gem--about ou universty's "shortages":

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425072_10100337571795403_19200324_48447289_886570265_n.jpg)

I think Surho might recall what this refers to; I mentioned it in a conversation XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 14, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
"Let me clear up some confusion people are having about the word "skeptic." Being a skeptic doesn't mean "disbelieving everything [fill in the blank] says." It means that you critically evaluate claims, assume nothing until the null hypothesis has been rejected, and derive conclusions using reason and evidence. Just "not buying" the "official story" does not make you a skeptic."

Dan Bier
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 15, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 14, 2012, 03:01:16 PM
my friend Kyle the other day posted this lovely gem--about ou universty's "shortages":

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425072_10100337571795403_19200324_48447289_886570265_n.jpg)

I think Surho might recall what this refers to; I mentioned it in a conversation XD
*Standing Ovation*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2012, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 15, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
*Standing Ovation*

Kyle Reeder is open 24/7; when he makes another awesome statement, I'll be sure to post.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 16, 2012, 02:45:16 PM
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Post by: Goaticus on April 16, 2012, 11:55:52 PM
Boy do I know what that's like.

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/533160_371032812935475_142326439139448_999595_1912589596_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 17, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
Democrats in 2003: "How could we lose? The president is unpopular, and our base thinks he is evil incarnate and was illegitimately elected. He has no policies that our base considers a success. The wars are going badly, and we've lost the respect of our allies oversees. The jobs lost in the recession that occurred early in the term have not come back, and while the economy is growing, the folks at the bottom can't feel it yet. We just have to run a candidate that appeals to moderates; a candidate that shares similar views to the president but has a better track record on areas where the president is weak. Perhaps a moderate from Massachusetts? How could we possibly lose?"

Dan Bier
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 17, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
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epic...just...epic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
...where's the epic?  Coughlan's got an ego that is in serious need to go on a diet.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 17, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
...where's the epic?  Coughlan's got an ego that is in serious need to go on a diet.
Not sure if trolling...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 17, 2012, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
...where's the epic?  Coughlan's got an ego that is in serious need to go on a diet.

well, ego aside, I just thought what happened was epic. in that it is very hilarious.
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Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2012, 05:45:27 PM
I thought it was awesome when Dara O'Briain joined in!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on April 17, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Not sure if trolling...

Not trolling, serious.  I don't see what the big deal is.  He uses his popularity to spam someone.  He's done it before and been quite a shithead about it on many occasions.

I admit, I haven't watched Coughlan lots but from what I've seen, he's come off as an immature kook who needs proffesional help badly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2012, 08:32:09 PM
It wasn't spamming, it was (I thought) a clever way of pointing out how ridiculous he was being, with actual refutations delivered en masse.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 18, 2012, 12:55:08 AM
"Lawrence of Arabia or Meyer Lansky
(Another argument in the Political Philosophy section)
If you ever have to chose between a mobster and a civil servant, go with the mobster. Any time. Institutions do not have a sense of honor, individuals do.
During the Great war, T.E. Lawrence, nicknamed Lawrence of Arabia struck a deal with the Arab desert tribes to help the British against the Ottoman empire, against his promise to deliver to them an Arab state. As they did not know better, they delivered on their side of the bargain. But, it turned out, the French and British governments had a secret agreement made in 1916, the Sikes–Picot agreement to divide the area between themselves. After the war, Lawrence went back to live in the U.K., supposedly in a state of frustration, but, of course, not much more. But it left us with a good lesson: never trust the words of a man who is not free.
Now on the other hand, a mobster greatest asset is the designation "his word is gold". It was said that "A handshake from the famous mobster Meyer Lansky was worth more than the strongest contracts that a battery of lawyers could put together" In fact he held in his mind assets and liabilities of the Sicilian mafia, and was their bank account, without a single record. Just his honor.
As a trader I never trusted transactions with "representatives" of institutions; pit traders are bound by their bonds, and I've never known a single self-employed trader over a two-decades long career who did not live up to his handshake."

Nassim Nicholas Taleb
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 18, 2012, 01:39:11 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on April 17, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Not sure if trolling...

Look who's talkin'.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 18, 2012, 01:51:57 AM
Quote from: VectorM on April 18, 2012, 01:39:11 AM
Look who's talkin'.
Yes, well... I'd like to see myself as an on authority on that sort of things...
Then again I'd also like to see myself on Sarah Michelle Gellar. So what does that mean?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2012, 06:38:17 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on April 18, 2012, 01:51:57 AMThen again I'd also like to see myself on Sarah Michelle Gellar. So what does that mean?

That you're living in the '90s?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 18, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 18, 2012, 06:38:17 AM
That you're living in the '90s?

Or in other words, Living in the Past (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8)?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 18, 2012, 10:48:11 AM
"People claim America has shipped its best manufacturing overseas. Rubbish! When it comes to to manufacturing boogeymen to justify a bloated military, only North Korea is more industrious."

Betty Bowers
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 18, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on April 18, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
Or in other words, Living in the Past (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8)?

I've just been searching YouTube for that clip from The Big Lebowski about living in the past and can't find one...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
I had a silly moment a few minutes ago...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6945067414_90c2d619ac_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/6945067414/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on April 19, 2012, 10:20:01 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 19, 2012, 11:13:09 PM
I just have to post this. I think people need to see what sort of people the politicians and administrative types who run CSU are really like. it's my opinion (additional comments section) as written it in a survey, and actually publicly stated:

QuoteI cite the 1st amendment, as well as the fact that this is supposed to be where I post my further thoughts:

simply put, I do not believe that funds will purely be from private sources, in light of this University's proclivity for projects that take longer than projected. and even if they will, why the hell are we spending it on a stadium nobody needs, when: a) we have a very good one by all accounts available in the form of the present stadium, and b) the money is better spent on genuine academic material, like new faculty, lowering of costs while improving academic quality, scholarships, academic and research grants, and new class material. you know, things a University is ACTUALLY meant to do with money?

the fact that the governing body of the University, in the person of that cunt Tony Frank is even discussing this, only illuminates to me the sheer hypocrisy of said body, as well as their complete disregard for what is actually good for the students. After-all, this is the same group of administrators--I call them bloodsucking vipers--which claims that tuition must be raised due to funding cuts from Denver, while at the same time having 6 or so new construction sites, many of which are absolutely unneeded, like that shit cube outside the library that is fucking up the scenery, but more critically making it harder to get inside the library. If they really cared, they would have suspended all of these projects, and focused instead of making the university more affordable in these economically burdened times, while maintaining high academic standards. and of course, the private funds would actually go to that purpose, instead of a shit new stadium. One which, while it may be built entirely by private means, will almost certainly be maintained  by public funds. oh, and guess who'll pay for it? us students. especially out of state ones, like myself. and even if it will only add 1 dollar to our tuition or less, the principle of it simply leaves me completely against this project, and against anyone who supports it.

I will oppose the idea for this stadium by all legal means, and be damned.

and yes, I did sign a petition, and write a letter to several well connected people about this. it is a complete travesty that in such times people are even considering it. doubt it will work though.

oh, and:

Quote from: Goaticus on April 18, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
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isn't it obvious? you sacrifice or abuse to death a person every mile the road is constructed: the spirits of the dead will protect the road. it worked in the great wall just fine when the Mongols and Manchus came along  ::)

oh, wait....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 20, 2012, 12:28:09 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 20, 2012, 01:04:19 AM
Obviously according to what I just said, which is the exact opposite of what you just tried to twist it into. AronRa from this video.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 20, 2012, 07:41:05 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 20, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
I guess we can all agree that bombing Detroid is not going far enough by this point? I heard even North Korea stopped sending it's political prisoners there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 20, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
Journal entry from me.  It's been discussed before but I wanted to go into more detail

QuoteThis is a hopeful series I'm gonna do on the most popular myths of economics that I hear over and over again and really can't stand anymore.  The claim this time is that in a free market, some EEEEEEVIL corporation will buy up all the other businesses and shaft the poor consumer.  Just for the fun of it, let's construct a simple model using my World of Warcraft character.  ^^

Okay, Shamibell Silverheart is a blacksmith who makes decent money but thinks, wouldn't it be wonderful if she could get a monopoly over the field and make that much more money!  Let's say she has three other main competitors: Bengus Deepforge, Smith Argus and Saru Steelfury.  So all she has to do is buy them out, get that monopoly and boom!  Hand over the fist gold baths every evening!

Well...not exactly.  Think about it, if it were really that easy, why haven't any of the other three blacksmiths done this already?  Don't you think they want to make lots of money too?


Yes, this is the first major flaw in this myth, it seems to work off the assumption that the would be monopolist is the only one in the market out to make as much money as possible but that's obviously not so.  Every business owner, every worker, every customer as well is out to get the best possible deal they can.  So already Shamibell faces her first problem: Her fellow blacksmiths don't want her taking over the industry because that means she'll make all the money intended for them and her customers don't want that either because that means they'll pay more for her services.  So right off the bat, Shamibell better hope to hell that nobody catches wind of what she's doing because they would surely seek to undermine her.  How would they do that?  Read on dear friend!

The next fact window breakers like to overlook:  In order to buy someone out, you must offer them enough to compensate them for what they believe they stood to gain if they chose to remain in business.  In other words, the better a business is doing, the more it costs to buy them out.  If I stand to gain 1000 gold a year, you can't buy me out with a mere pittance of 500 gold.  It would cost maybe 10,000 at least to convince me to sell.

Remember this, it will be important.

There's also the risk that maybe someone is unwilling to sell at ANY price.  Maybe his shop has sentimental value and he doesn't want to give it up.  What do you do then?  Window breakers like to present buying out like it's some kind of hostile invasion.  No, it's a voluntary trade.

So buying someone out not only carries no guarantee of success, it's also a financial risk because it's expensive.  If Shamibell wants to buy out Bengus Deepforge, let's say it'll cost her 10,000 gold so she'll have to take out a loan to pay for that.  It's risky but sometimes worth it.  It certainly does happen a lot in real life business.

Okay, so now she's bought out Deepforge Smithy and goes to Smith Argus to buy him out offering him 10,000 gold.

He says no.  Why not?  Because his business is now booming so 10,000 gold isn't enough to convince him to sell.

Oh dear!  It seems Shamibell has overlooked something.  By buying out Deepforge, his customers have flocked to other blacksmiths and not neccessarily hers.  Many have displaced to Argus' Smithy and with less competition, he stands to make more money now so it's going to cost more to convince him to sell.  He says he'll sell for no less than 20,000 gold.  Ouch!

So Shamibell now has to go even further into debt to buy him out.  But, mucho money awaits if she just buys out the last competitor right?  So she takes the plunge.  Now all that's left is Saru Steelfury!

Oh dear...Steelfury's business has REALLY taken off now that her only competitor is Shamibell who's now burdened with debt and has to raise her prices just to make the payments.  Steelfury laughs when Shamibell asks him to sell, saying "Why would I do that?  Since you're now in debt and I'm not, I can undercut you easily and take all the business for myself!"

Yes, in a cruel irony, in trying to claim the whole market for herself, Shamibell instead indebted herself only to give it all to whichever competitor was the most patient in waiting for her to indebt herself and remove all his competition.  So Steelfury instead gets massive profits and Shamibell is forced to close down her doors and work in the mines for the rest of her life.  How tragic!


Of course, even if Shamibell DID succeed in buying out all her competitors, she would still be massively in debt in the process so it would be a long time before she was ahead again.  She would also have no ability to stop an entirely NEW blacksmith from opening up and making her efforts for naught.  Indeed, if you were a young entrepreneur and you noticed there was only one blacksmith business in the market who was greatly weighed down by debt that you could easily undercut, surely you would think it was a ripe investment to make.

In fact, when Rockerfeller tried to do this very thing, all people did was start up oil companies for the sole purpose of selling them to him for a mark up.  Obviously this is not sustainable.

Worse yet, even if you DO overcome all these obstacles and keep competition out, you're still limited in the amount you can charge before people will just simply abstain from your services completely or seek alternatives.  The average peasant can't afford to buy tools for 1000 gold a piece so if you insist on charging that, they'll just resort to using sticks, import from elsewhere, try to make their own or any other solution they can devise.


So no people, buying out your competition is not some magic money tree because if it was, why isn't everyone doing this all the time?  Remember, buying out competitors is NOT against the law.  People do it all the time if they think it's financially viable.  The reason people don't is not because they're afraid of the government.  It's because it's extremely risky, there's way too many things than can go wrong and the potential gain isn't worth it in the long run.  No board of directors at any large firm would ever approve of such a plan.


Do you have an economy myth that you'd like exposed for the wasteful superstition that it is?  Please leave a comment and yours could be the next one I do.  Until next time, be aware and be wise.

It occurs to me another thing that can go wrong.  What if the bank doesn't think you're little monopoly scheme is going to work and refuses to lend you the money?  Oh dear...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 20, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
Nice. Of course the reason why you see so many mergers in banking and other industries is because government protects them against failure, meaning they don't have the risk that's normally involved with buying out competition as you described.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 21, 2012, 05:55:37 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 20, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
Nice. Of course the reason why you see so many mergers in banking and other industries is because government protects them against failure, meaning they don't have the risk that's normally involved with buying out competition as you described.

It also helps that there are a LOT of firms operating in most industries (even banking, at least in the US, we don't have many firms that are legally BANKS in Canada, at least not in the retail market, most of them are something else, like a credit union).  The more firms there are, the smaller the overall impact (on the firms involved and the industry as a whole) that any given merger/buyout has, so the case for it is easier to make.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 21, 2012, 06:53:52 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 21, 2012, 05:55:37 AM
It also helps that there are a LOT of firms operating in most industries (even banking, at least in the US, we don't have many firms that are legally BANKS in Canada, at least not in the retail market, most of them are something else, like a credit union).  The more firms there are, the smaller the overall impact (on the firms involved and the industry as a whole) that any given merger/buyout has, so the case for it is easier to make.

One of my favorite parts of The Black Swan by Nassim Taleb was how he showed that most of the Governments methods for avoiding risk made the possibility of a banking meltdown a near certainty. He wrote this before 2008.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 21, 2012, 06:54:18 AM
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/549262_282778588473083_100002228321364_678293_1835681639_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 22, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 22, 2012, 03:28:06 PM
Oddly enough spending seems to have taken off in 1971. I wonder what happened that year?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530480_285247354893238_169567139794594_653857_564497932_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 22, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on April 22, 2012, 03:28:06 PM
Oddly enough spending seems to have taken off in 1971. I wonder what happened that year?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530480_285247354893238_169567139794594_653857_564497932_n.jpg)

how is it possible we are spending more in this time then we did in World War II?

that's one other reason the federal government sucks.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 22, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
It's not a quote, but I give no fucks. This is awesome anyway.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/294kspd.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 23, 2012, 01:48:47 AM
oh, I can see that one:

[spoiler]"in the beginining, Robotnik created the robotic heavens and earth. now the robotic earth was formless and empty, there were no artificial lights hovering over the great scrap-heap, and the spirit of Robotnik hovered over it. And robotnik said: "we need Artificial lighting" and so there was artificial lighting. Robotnik saw that the light was good, and so he seperated the light and dark. Robotnik called the light "illumination", and dark "darkness", and there was poorly lit, and just turned on--the first day"

"then Robotnik said: let there be a mechanics lab between the scrap heaps , to seperate the scrap heaps. So Robotnik built the mechanics lab, and seperated the upper and lower scrap heaps, and it was so. Robotnik called the upper expanse "primary scrap heap", and there was poorly lit and just turned on--the second day"

"the Robotnik said "let the scrap heaps be gethered, so that there would be space to walk in. and Robotnik named these "walkways", and everything else "surplus heaps". Robotnik saw that it was agreeble to the senses, so he approved. and there was poorly lit and just turned on--the third day.

the Robotnik said: let there be lights in the expanse of the primary scrap heap and mechanics lab, to seperate no darkness from artificial lighting. these will be used as direction signs, as tokens of Robotnik's potential, and to indicate hours of work, break, and sleep. they'll be in the expanse of the primary scrap heap to illuminate the walkways. and so it was.

the he made two big artificial lights: the bigger one illuminated his lab, the smaller one the scrapheap"
[/spoiler]
I'll leave you guys to figure out where this is going :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 23, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds." --John Perry Barlow
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 23, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
[yt]zQ5cGYBV2TQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 24, 2012, 12:11:04 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/405395_10150611752957442_599817441_10875735_1463335309_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 24, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
[yt]6P8mrqELjd8&context=C48fa09dADvjVQa1PpcFNDMVMHJwse1ImJcrYjEMUdG7tJ6o_W0Sw=[/yt]

nothing like some old fashioned dealing with science related bunk.

(on a different note: you should check this guy out: he's only made three videos so far, but more are in the works (I hope), so yeah..I'm advertizing a little XD)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 24, 2012, 09:22:38 PM
[yt]_A-yboiw0d8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2012, 09:39:29 AM
D, this one's for you:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19780_5-gender-stereotypes-that-used-to-be-exact-opposite.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 25, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 25, 2012, 09:39:29 AM
D, this one's for you:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19780_5-gender-stereotypes-that-used-to-be-exact-opposite.html

*flexes manly muscles*

Is that supposed to be a pot shot at my manliness boy?

Oh well, time to watch some manly fighting in broken English.

[yt]2QaO8t-Tejk[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2012, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: D on April 25, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
*flexes manly muscles*

Is that supposed to be a pot shot at my manliness boy?

Maaaybe. :P

More to show the standards of manliness are 100% arbitrary.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 25, 2012, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 25, 2012, 06:42:07 PM
Maaaybe. :P

More to show the standards of manliness are 100% arbitrary.

Doesn't mean they aren't hilarious and manly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 25, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/303386_441831959176887_100000502605522_1717567_1304120729_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 27, 2012, 04:09:23 PM
[yt]chT2yLFON8s&feature=related[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 27, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
This speech (http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/04/my-speech-delivered-at-new-york-federal.html)

The ending really packs a punch:

"Let's have one good meal here. Let's make it a feast. Then I ask you, I plead with you, I beg you all, walk out of here with me, never to come back. It's the moral and ethical thing to do. Nothing good goes on in this place. Let's lock the doors and leave the building to the spiders, moths and four-legged rats."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 27, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: D on April 27, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
This speech (//http://)

The ending really packs a punch:

"Let's have one good meal here. Let's make it a feast. Then I ask you, I plead with you, I beg you all, walk out of here with me, never to come back. It's the moral and ethical thing to do. Nothing good goes on in this place. Let's lock the doors and leave the building to the spiders, moths and four-legged rats."

link doesn't work for me. keeps calling it an invalid URL or sth..
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 27, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 27, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
link doesn't work for me. keeps calling it an invalid URL or sth..

Fixed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2012, 07:29:09 PM
[yt]b4T_sUwjZow[/yt]

Yes, even Morrakiu--one of Fringeelements' fan--is calling bullshit on the racial bollocks.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 27, 2012, 07:55:59 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 27, 2012, 07:29:09 PM
[yt]b4T_sUwjZow[/yt]

Yes, even Morrakiu--one of Fringeelements' fan--is calling bullshit on the racial bollocks.

The worst thing about Fringe and the race surrealists is that they claim there are only two possibilities, racist moron or egalitarian. It's especially inexcusable from Fringe since he claims to believe in bottom up emergent systems. Something that would force you to get to know people as individuals any way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 29, 2012, 07:30:37 AM
Epic pwnage, easily the best I've seen against a creationist:

[yt]l-ilMYc5xdQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 29, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247940_220007178018534_5245893_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 29, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527288_277464969013811_123892551037721_614541_470099239_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 29, 2012, 11:58:27 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536487_131894386943562_100003690042519_128602_1408554176_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 30, 2012, 12:15:24 PM
[yt]2CfRC60d8_Y[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 30, 2012, 01:14:30 PM
Excellent video on how the Obama administration gets away with things the Bush administration couldn't.

[yt]D0u1dYz1dSs&feature=youtu.be[/yt]

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2012, 06:35:25 PM
"Grammar, the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit." -- johnrainrules in the comments of Shane's video, "What is the Free Market?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 01, 2012, 09:37:25 AM
"In every single group of human beings, you have a certain percentage of crazy shitheads. Find me an organization of a million charity workers who have devoted their lives to saving homeless golden retrievers, and I'll bet my life that within that group I can find a faction of crazy shitheads. Hell, I'll bet I can find at least one in any group of a dozen people. Liberals, conservatives, moderates, weed advocates, anti-drug advocates, cupcake bakers, window washers. They all -- all -- have their crazy shitheads that can be pointed out. I bet I can find at least one in your family.

Therefore, their existence proves nothing about the group as a whole. And, therefore, it is always wrong to dismiss a political movement by simply pointing at their craziest shitheads and saying, "See! That is what (insert group here) is REALLY thinking." It's a cheap shot, anybody can do it and it's an outright lie." -- David Wong of all people:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-to-spot-b.s.-political-story-in-under-10-seconds_p2
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 01, 2012, 10:18:02 PM
[yt]TS7FBFAI94s[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 02, 2012, 12:46:47 AM
I love the internet.

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523812_10150784164239250_676589249_9462495_1370659471_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 02, 2012, 12:53:06 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 02, 2012, 01:03:33 AM
stumbled on this just now. man this was lulz:

[yt]oPM_Bnzgri8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 02, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/544966_384522034933953_156938017692357_1224331_769876825_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: D on May 02, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/544966_384522034933953_156938017692357_1224331_769876825_n.jpg)

So how many lurkers are going to cite this as evidence of "Libertarian racism" because it looks like the head of a tribal African wearing a ceremonial/religious mask?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 02, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 02, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
So how many lurkers are going to cite this as evidence of "Libertarian racism" because it looks like the head of a tribal African wearing a ceremonial/religious mask?

looks Polynesian to me. either way, I wouldn't wait long.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 02, 2012, 01:16:21 PM
It's a mix of different ones: African, South American, Greek, Egyptian, etc. Looks like they've got all the races covered.

Probably won't stop them, though.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 02, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
This website (http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 02, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/me_guns/krugman_cat.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 02, 2012, 10:37:23 PM
(http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/244-Spell-It.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 03, 2012, 05:40:23 AM
Which one? Flagullum or Creatinism?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 03, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I bet he could actually do this and get 45% of the vote.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/Dakmore13/1756.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: unknownThe answer to the magic question is "There's a wocket in my pocket."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 04, 2012, 10:57:25 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 05, 2012, 02:40:16 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9960195.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 06, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/533283_356245054432005_135272339862612_907678_1998876522_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 06, 2012, 08:21:39 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 07, 2012, 07:52:02 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554412_10150857811659872_367822059871_9299218_881165971_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2012, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: D on May 07, 2012, 07:52:02 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554412_10150857811659872_367822059871_9299218_881165971_n.jpg)

I'd vote for him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 07, 2012, 08:04:54 PM
[yt]IVjfa0Alz5o[/yt]

Okay, I don't care if you support Ron Paul or not, but this is god damned hilarious.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 07, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s320x320/292125_436944059668139_206934106002470_1478853_1761531868_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2012, 10:15:59 PM
On a more positive note:

[yt]Gu1VhsNOwPU[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2012, 01:13:03 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 07, 2012, 10:15:59 PM
On a more positive note:

[yt]Gu1VhsNOwPU[/yt]

someone has not majored in Geology :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2012, 01:22:34 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2012, 01:13:03 AM
someone has not majored in Geology :P
Heh. :P
In all fairness, the author of the comic was a physics major who works as a computer programmer (or something like that).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 08, 2012, 12:28:09 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 08, 2012, 01:22:34 AM
Heh. :P
In all fairness, the author of the comic was a physics major who works as a computer programmer (or something like that).

Certainly not a new phenomenon.  A LOT of people who use skills they picked up as part of their degree (as opposed to skills they happened to pick up entirely coincidentally to it) end up using their secondary skills as the basis of a career instead of their primary ones.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 08, 2012, 02:11:05 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/298925_280652155290062_100000358403641_988434_1022912456_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2012, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 08, 2012, 02:11:05 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/298925_280652155290062_100000358403641_988434_1022912456_n.jpg)

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 07, 2012, 10:15:59 PM
On a more positive note:

[yt]Gu1VhsNOwPU[/yt]

and I found the image url I needed for this:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/every_majors_terrible.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 08, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535810_10150800901677858_500182857_9925365_1945873465_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
Quote from: D on May 07, 2012, 08:04:54 PM
[yt]IVjfa0Alz5o[/yt]

Okay, I don't care if you support Ron Paul or not, but this is god damned hilarious.

so does that make Romney that Gary dude? and Obama and his crew Team Rocket?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 08, 2012, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
so does that make Romney that Gary dude? and Obama and his crew Team Rocket?

No. Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney are the Elite 4 and Barack Obama is the rival.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 09, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
Quote from: D on May 08, 2012, 11:37:27 PM
No. Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney are the Elite 4 and Barack Obama is the rival.

not understanding what part of Pokemon this refers to (bearing in mind that I don't know or care much about the show), I get the idea. ;)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 09, 2012, 06:29:38 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 09, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
not understanding what part of Pokemon this refers to (bearing in mind that I don't know or care much about the show), I get the idea. ;)

It's a reference to the very end of the game. The final challenge is to face 4 "masters" in a row then fight the reigning champion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 09, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 09, 2012, 01:50:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 10, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 10, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 10, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
Kyle Reeder has struck again! and once again, the president of Colorado State University is he favorite target:

"CSU, it's short for "Construction State University"

"(Tony Frank) Increase salaries of all employees by 3%, increase tuition by 9%."

and of course, in reference to the aftermath of an early snow drift that brought down several trees:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 10, 2012, 10:20:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 11, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
[Asked on Twitter what The Doctor thinks of gay marriage] "You'd have to explain gay to him first. Then straight! Then why you were still talking when there's ALL THESE SPACESHIPS!! Then be very cross it was ever in doubt, add a gay marriage setting to his screwdriver and accidentally marry a Krynoid. Again. He comes from a world where such narrow views seem so ridiculous they're hard to remember." --Steven Moffat
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 11, 2012, 09:41:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 11, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 11, 2012, 09:41:57 AM
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Heh.  Willy Wonka for the win! ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 11, 2012, 11:02:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 12, 2012, 07:04:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 12, 2012, 03:53:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 12, 2012, 11:21:52 PM
The best part is the writing on his forehead.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 13, 2012, 11:04:30 PM
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Lord T Hawkeye does it again!
This is his response video to that crap in fail quotes on adopting a libertarian.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 14, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 14, 2012, 05:21:25 PM
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Okay, I was concerned this might be a little low for me but cripes, SOMETHING had to be done to deflate that windbag's ego.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2012, 05:47:14 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 14, 2012, 05:21:25 PM
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Okay, I was concerned this might be a little low for me but cripes, SOMETHING had to be done to deflate that windbag's ego.
Embed doesn't work, dude.

[Fixed. --MrB]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 14, 2012, 08:48:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 14, 2012, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 14, 2012, 08:48:06 PM
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that is going to give me nightmares for a few days. thanks....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2012, 11:00:52 AM
Dear Anarcho-Primitivists,

Suck on it:    http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 15, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
Is it just me or does anarcho-primitavism sound a lot like a pseudo-scientific version of the Garden of Eden.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2012, 12:54:56 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 15, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
Is it just me or does anarcho-primitavism sound a lot like a pseudo-scientific version of the Garden of Eden.
Because that's what it *IS* in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 16, 2012, 06:52:19 PM
FSAthe1st tried to  start up his old "You quote mined my vid!!" nonsense so I gave him a little reminder.

Quote"Quoting your sources is lazy and pathetic!"

"...except when I do it"

"Not reading your entire source is quote mining!"

"I don't like the Guardian, therefore this info is wrong!"

"The info was a quote from a proffesional association of surgeons and The Guardian was just passing the word along? LA LA LA!! CAN"T HEAR YOU!!"

There you go. Full review of the vid for you. Happy now?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 16, 2012, 06:56:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 16, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 16, 2012, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 16, 2012, 06:52:19 PMFSAthe1st tried to  start up his old "You quote mined my vid!!" nonsense so I gave him a little reminder.

Ask him if I quote-mined him in my podcast pwnage he never responded to.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 18, 2012, 01:02:00 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 18, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Tell that teen not to worry as Christianity is easily curable.  Just read the bible.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 18, 2012, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 18, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Tell that teen not to worry as Christianity is easily curable.  Just read the bible.

That's a Fav Quote in itself!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2012, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 18, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Tell that teen not to worry as Christianity is easily curable.  Just read the bible.
*High Five!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2012, 03:03:21 PM
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Yes, one of these kinds of videos from Shane. :)


I loled at the people in the comments section trying to pull the old creationist canard of "I know you are but what am I?" by trying to say, "yes, but free markets are a cult/religion too" (And evolution is a religious world view that leads to Nazism.  Riiiight.) "they have easy answers of gov't bad and kills everything it touches; and free market good and solves everything."
On the first bit about gov't: if the shoe fits, wear it.  On the second bit, we never said that.  Deal with it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
Here are some more ways the gov't is a cult.
At the risk of stealing Shane's thunder:

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I simply *had* to post this, in light of recent events.  It's one of Stefan Molyneux's better (and shorter) videos. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 18, 2012, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 18, 2012, 06:03:35 PMAt the risk of stealing Shane's thunder:

Steal away!

Didn't Lord T Hawkeye make a video on the similar fallacies committed by both statists and theists?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 18, 2012, 06:54:43 PMSteal away!
Don't mind if I do. :P

Here's that article/essay by Dale Everett I mentioned in the comment section:
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/11/28/anarchy-isnt-the-answer/
Fuck quotes, just click the link and read the article.  It makes the point very well.
I know you are not an anarchist, but the points still stick.  A free market is a negative, a lack of force.  It is NOT a solution, but rather the rejection of a false solution.
Just like how Atheism is the rejection of a false solution (deities); not a cure for cancer or people praying for a cure.

Quote from: MrBogosity on May 18, 2012, 06:54:43 PMDidn't Lord T Hawkeye make a video on the similar fallacies committed by both statists and theists?
He might have.  I do know he made a video called, "Top 10 Statist Mistakes," however.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 18, 2012, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 18, 2012, 06:54:43 PM
Steal away!

Didn't Lord T Hawkeye make a video on the similar fallacies committed by both statists and theists?

I think it may have never got past the planning stage.

But there is one thing that came to me recently.  In one very important way, statists are worse than creationists.  At least creationists don't expect god to take their suggestions on how to centrally plan the world.  In other words, creationists at least understand their own limits.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 19, 2012, 09:19:38 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 19, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2012, 02:12:01 PM
I could use some help dealing with eragon2121 on Shane's latest video ("What is the Cult of the Omnipotent State?")

He seems to think that the rejection of a false solution (government) is the same as a solution itself, and that us trying to help people means becoming our own red tape loving state.

Christ, and people wonder why we call them cultists.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 20, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 23, 2012, 01:13:01 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 23, 2012, 09:53:33 AM
Chaz of the Chaz and AJ show is sadly in the minority when it comes to school uniforms.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 23, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 23, 2012, 07:41:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 24, 2012, 12:30:07 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 24, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 25, 2012, 12:53:23 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 24, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 25, 2012, 08:27:15 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2012, 10:30:24 AM
And speaking of our educational system:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 27, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
"Skeptics don't look for 'converts,' they'll tell you the truth whether you like it or not." --JohnRainRules, these comments. (http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=dxgYJlEuG9c)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 27, 2012, 06:30:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 27, 2012, 10:30:24 AM
And speaking of our educational system:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html

One comment was quite telling

"Regarding the first point there, college is not high school. You're not paying to be babied gently into understanding of basic concepts, you're paying to receive information from and to be able to ask questions of people much, much better at the subjects in question than you. Grad students fit this description as well as tenured faculty, and to boot they'll usually give you more of the babying you seem to feel is a vital part of education.

College is education for _adults_, and adults are capable of putting in their own legwork, read texts, do homework, and figure out what questions to ask. It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."


So college is charging you for the priviledge of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 28, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
One comment was quite telling

"Regarding the first point there, college is not high school. You're not paying to be babied gently into understanding of basic concepts, you're paying to receive information from and to be able to ask questions of people much, much better at the subjects in question than you. Grad students fit this description as well as tenured faculty, and to boot they'll usually give you more of the babying you seem to feel is a vital part of education.

College is education for _adults_, and adults are capable of putting in their own legwork, read texts, do homework, and figure out what questions to ask. It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."


So college is charging you for the priviledge of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.

It's also completely untrue, at least at the undergrad level.  When I was in university (Canada calls them differently, if it grants degrees, it's a university, what we call colleges are called trade schools in the US) I was told the way it was when some of my older proffs were undergrads (which would have been back in the early 1950's): Having to go and locate and read the journal articles about lab work to be done, then design the experimental and analytical procedures to be used (just like a real, working scientist does), none of this having everything laid out in the lab manual like a cook book the way things are now.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2012, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2012, 07:40:10 PM"It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."
Fuck this elitist prick.  Not all of us are made of money and credit.


Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2012, 07:40:10 PMSo college is charging you for the privilege of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.
Based on evensgrey's input, it sounds like that entire comment of his is just excuse making rationalizing bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 28, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 28, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 29, 2012, 04:30:00 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/science-objectivism.jpg)

Something that every Socialist, Keynesian and statist would do well to remember.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 29, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 29, 2012, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: D on May 29, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
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Beat me to it!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 29, 2012, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: D on May 29, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
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pure...win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 29, 2012, 05:03:28 PM
"Maybe he [enthalpay] should do his next video on the Gold Standard. Then he can quote experts like Gargamel talking about turning Smurfs into gold." --johnrainrules in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fsSKTl0uNc)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 29, 2012, 07:54:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Anpanman on May 29, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2012, 04:49:35 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "Despots and democratic majorities are drunk with power. They must reluctantly admit that they are subject to the laws of nature. But they reject the very notion of economic law . . . economic history is a long record of government policies that failed because they were designed with a bold disregard for the laws of economics." - Austrian Economics: An Anthology
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2012, 05:02:25 AM
Another good one from Ludwig von Mises:

"The riches of the rich are not the cause of the poverty of anybody; the process that makes some people rich is, on the contrary, the corollary of the process that improves many peoples want satisfaction. The entrepreneurs, the capitalists and the technologists prosper as far as they succeed in best supplying the consumers." - The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality

Referring to the rich in a free market, not one where they are bailed out and protected via barriers to entry by a corporatist government, obviously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 30, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
"We attended a Republican Party county convention in March where they overwhelmingly passed a resolution in favor of the [NC gay marriage] amendment. Out of 95 people we were two of the seven to vote no. I was one of only two to speak against the motion. I heard Republican after Republican appeal to pure democracy. In their bigoted zeal they deliberately forgot what their party supposedly stands for—the Republic. They deliberately forgot the entire purpose of Constitutions, to limit governments from infringing upon the inalienable rights of the people." —Sean Haugh
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 30, 2012, 11:17:40 AM
Short, sweet, and to the point:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 30, 2012, 11:53:05 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 30, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: D on May 29, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
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Am I still somewhat original when I managed to come up with a similiar quote by myself without knowing someone else said it first?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2012, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on May 30, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Am I still somewhat original when I managed to come up with a similar quote by myself without knowing someone else said it first?
I've always thought so.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 30, 2012, 02:29:53 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 30, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
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EDIT: Apparently I'm slowpoking hard on this.

Oh well, don't care. It's still win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 30, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: D on May 30, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
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EDIT: Apparently I'm slowpoking hard on this.

Oh well, don't care. It's still win.

ah! got that on my favorites!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2012, 09:53:11 PM
And not to be outdone: 
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 31, 2012, 07:32:56 AM
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Chaz is spot on, yet again.

AJ is annoying and fails to do a Hulk Hogan impression (not enough brother, jack, or dude)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 31, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: D on May 31, 2012, 07:32:56 AMAJ is annoying and fails to do a Hulk Hogan impression (not enough brother, jack, or dude)

Geez, he's supposed to be a radio guy, right? Does he ALWAYS clip the mic levels like that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 31, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 31, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
Geez, he's supposed to be a radio guy, right? Does he ALWAYS clip the mic levels like that?

No. It's just this one bit because Linda McMahon is the wife of Vince McMahon and thus any association with wrestling requires a Hulk Hogan impression for some unknown reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 31, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: D on May 31, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
No. It's just this one bit because Linda McMahon is the wife of Vince McMahon and thus any association with wrestling requires a Hulk Hogan impression for some unknown reason.

Still, he should know better. Or at least run it through a hard limiter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 31, 2012, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 31, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
Still, he should know better. Or at least run it through a hard limiter.

Or better yet, remain quiet while the people who actually care about the issue speak, instead of trying to distract us with your bad impression.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2012, 10:10:30 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 02, 2012, 03:06:59 AM
well, it's not like me to do this, but I have to post something I said, about how to announce when Obama is going to speak:

"tonight at (insert time)....CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 02, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/refuse-to-flip-burgers.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2012, 05:18:38 PM
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(Don't worry, he's not actually calling us racists; given that he's one of us--last I checked.  He's just making fun of the people who do! :) )
SecularNumanist, Fringeelements, Morrakiu:  They make the best sarcastic videos ever. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 05:25:41 PM
Fringelements?  The race realist? The one who's advocating a prescribriptive race segregation?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 05:25:41 PMFringelements?  The race realist? The one who's advocating a prescribriptive race segregation?
"prescribriptive"?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 03, 2012, 05:33:06 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 11, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
"Be wary of quotes on the internet; it is difficult to tell which ones are genuine." --Plato

(Also seen attributed to Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Edmund Burke, and Voltaire.)

Okay, I went and did it:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8152/7330567176_3f66be6e19_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/7330567176/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 03, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
"prescribriptive"?
I like how you imidietly jumped to my spelling instead of my more serious descriptions of him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 03, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
I like how you imidietly jumped to my spelling instead of my more serious descriptions of him.

And you expected what on the internet?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
And you expected what on the internet?
Tits.
And photoshoped pictures of Sarah Palin going 69 on her daughters.
You know, the basics of civilization.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2012, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on June 03, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
I like how you imidietly jumped to my spelling instead of my more serious descriptions of him.
Oh, fine, grumpa masta. :P

He may be borderline (if not full on racist), but he still knows how to write a good anti-statist themed parody, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
Well, I thought D was going to post it, but I guess not.

In the video debate between TheAmazingAtheist and SouthernAvenger, the following comment was made on one of TJ's videos on the subject:

"Its all a bunch of crap.  You are just trading one majority (states) for another (federal).  How about this, just can the gov altogether. I know it isn't a nice thing to think about, but everyone will never agree [that] with or without government, plenty of people will get the short end of the stick.  Instead of forcing your beliefs on others, just live and let live."
   
--Mauhadeeb28 43 seconds ago
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 03, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 03, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
Well, I thought D was going to post it, but I guess not.

In the video debate between TheAmazingAtheist and SouthernAvenger, the following comment was made on one of TJ's videos on the subject:

"Its all a bunch of crap.  You are just trading one majority (states) for another (federal).  How about this, just can the gov altogether. I know it isn't a nice thing to think about, but everyone will never agree [that] with or without government, plenty of people will get the short end of the stick.  Instead of forcing your beliefs on others, just live and let live."
   
--Mauhadeeb28 43 seconds ago

Sorry about that. Went to do something else and forgot.

Oh well, at least it's up.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 04, 2012, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2012, 05:33:06 PM
Okay, I went and did it:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8152/7330567176_3f66be6e19_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/7330567176/)

so a reasonable quote attributed to a guy who never said, whose picture isn't even his?

reminds of of this quote from interwar Hungary:

"for the next 24 years, Hungary would be a kingdom without a king, ruled by an admiral without a fleet, in a country without a coastline."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 04, 2012, 08:44:43 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2012, 05:33:06 PM
Okay, I went and did it:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8152/7330567176_3f66be6e19_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/7330567176/)

I particularly like the choice of a picture of Benjamin Franklin to go along with it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 04, 2012, 12:02:26 PM
"So don't change the dizzle, turn it up a little
I got a living room full of fine dime brizzles
Waiting on the Pizzle, the Dizzle and the Shizzle
G's to the bizzack, now ladies here we gizzo

When the pimp's in the crib ma
Drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot..."

-English Romantic poet, John Keats

Source (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002344)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 AM
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s720x720/182854_311069472314450_1051838530_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 05, 2012, 12:42:58 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252699_10151032849002059_1792947936_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
I wish I could have shown this to DeepRainforest on Shane's "What is the Free Market?" video's comments:

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Oh well.  But that being being said:  Suck on it, DeepRainforest! :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
"This is just me, but I think there's a difference between falling in love regardless of age and being a predator. I think a predator is like 'Imma purposely find an illegal girl because they're too young' vs somebody who may not even think of how old she is. So many girls today makes it hard to tell whether they are in high school or graduated college. Safe to go cougar though.

But that's just me."

From the comments of this video:

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of all places.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 07, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
Made this in a fit of frustration. I HATE being inundated by Twilight, more so than most mindless pap, because of the lost opportunity it represents: with centuries of vampire mythos to draw on, not to mention decades of immortality in science fiction, plus a built-in internal struggle, having it all end up being a second-rate love story just gets to me.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/7163749187_0e789e2902_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/7163749187/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 07, 2012, 02:21:19 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/3pm1yb.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
(https://fbcdn_sphotos_c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542499_10150960201589872_1179351541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 07, 2012, 02:43:43 PM
This is old, but still:
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John Stossel, why are you such a glorious motherfucker?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 03:51:47 PM
Well, since me and D are talking about diet/exercise related stuff on AIM, I figured I'd go ahead and post 3 fav quote bits on the subject from Cracked.com

1. (#1 on this list)  http://www.cracked.com/article_19296_6-lies-about-human-body-you-learned-in-kindergarten_p2.html
2. (#'s 4 and 3 on this list): http://www.cracked.com/article_18611_the-10-most-important-things-they-didnt-teach-you-in-school_p2.html
3.  This picture:  http://www.cracked.com/funny-4180-diet-products/

After reading #1, I thought to myself, "Well, shit! That's just the law of conservation of energy--a basic scientific fact--in action.  I'm an engineer and a physics person.  That makes perfect sense to me!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 04:22:41 PM
And it looks like I won't be buying Nintendo's next console either. *sigh*
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-know-nintendo-has-lost-its-mind/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-should-never-take-advice-from-celebrities/
Given that I have seen LTH shamelessly rip off/spout the title of item #5 on this list without attribution (and because I read the entire article), I know this one's good. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 05:05:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
"Whenever anyone tells me that government workers are fighting against 'the man' I die a little on the inside.
The establishment can't fight the establishment because THEY ARE ALREADY THE FUCKING ESTABLISHMENT YOU FUCKING MORONS!" --D, in an AIM post to me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 07, 2012, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 07, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
"Whenever anyone tells me that government workers are fighting against 'the man' I die a little on the inside.
The establishment can't fight the establishment because THEY ARE ALREADY THE FUCKING ESTABLISHMENT YOU FUCKING MORONS!" --D, in an AIM post to me.

Even someone like myself can dish out a good one every once in a while.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 08, 2012, 12:26:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2012, 09:40:26 PM
[yt]yF3P6Wl2rEQ[/yt]

More win from our own Lord T Hawkeye! :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
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Best part?  This is the official dub.  Words cannot explain express the win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 09, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 09, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
[yt]nrI7QUJfkvI[/yt]

Best part?  This is the official dub.  Words cannot explain express the win.

Cromartie High School is glorious.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: D on June 09, 2012, 12:27:22 PMCromartie High School is glorious.

Indeed.  In fact, it was seeing your new userpic and signature that got me to look for the video.
After I watched, then faved it, I posted it here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 09, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 09, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
Indeed.  In fact, it was seeing your new userpic and signature that got me to look for the video.
After I watched, then faved it, I posted it here.

I figured as much. Still win though.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
"    "By any fair measure, equal access to marriage for all Americans is a right — guaranteed by the Constitution. Senator Santorum's claim that legally recognizing gay marriage would be no different than legalizing polygamy, child molestation or bestiality is repugnant and insulting to millions of gay Americans."

    "The New York Times reports that while President Obama gives lip service to gay equality, the President will not support gay marriage before the election because of the opposition of African Americans, as reflected in his polling, and the need to assure maximum support from African American voters in November. Instead the President sends out surrogates to imply that he will support gay marriage in a second term."

    "I, for one, am tired of seeing candidates for president – including the President himself, play political games with people's lives and happiness. Perhaps it's time for a president who leads based upon principle instead of polls."


Gary Johnson
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2012, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 09, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
"    "By any fair measure, equal access to marriage for all Americans is a right — guaranteed by the Constitution. Senator Santorum's claim that legally recognizing gay marriage would be no different than legalizing polygamy, child molestation or bestiality is repugnant and insulting to millions of gay Americans."

    "The New York Times reports that while President Obama gives lip service to gay equality, the President will not support gay marriage before the election because of the opposition of African Americans, as reflected in his polling, and the need to assure maximum support from African American voters in November. Instead the President sends out surrogates to imply that he will support gay marriage in a second term."

    "I, for one, am tired of seeing candidates for president – including the President himself, play political games with people's lives and happiness. Perhaps it's time for a president who leads based upon principle instead of polls."


Gary Johnson

That the government (or the church for that matter) are omnipresent in a purely social matter says it all, really.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 10, 2012, 01:32:52 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s320x320/540480_312327512185109_1028139215_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2012, 02:16:45 AM
"I have a solution for sweatshops: air conditioning." --topperheartramada in the comments of this video:

[yt]NxBzKkWo0mo[/yt]

I had to reply to that with: "I see what you did there."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 10, 2012, 03:19:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 10, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Quote from: D
Quote from: Darkbane77You know, the mean part of me hopes your house is broken into. Or some other non-violent crime.

Who you gonna call!

Ghostbusters!

Perfect setup was perfect.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 11, 2012, 10:22:09 AM
[yt]RW67kqPnWkU[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 11, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577569_10150877763667636_507028643_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2012, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 11, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577569_10150877763667636_507028643_n.jpg)
Zoolander's Mugatu ftw!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 12, 2012, 03:31:28 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 12, 2012, 07:01:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 13, 2012, 07:29:24 AM
Yet more proof: oil prices have more to do with money supply (inflation) than anything else:

(http://historysquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/image31.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 13, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 13, 2012, 07:29:24 AM
Yet more proof: oil prices have more to do with money supply (inflation) than anything else:

(http://historysquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/image31.png)

I'd be reluctant to use this particular graph: one would need an adjusted R2: it'd produce a lower number as a result, but a better descriptor. (it'll still be pretty good though, judging from the graph).

having said that: it isn't going to disprove the assessment (it's clearly a good correlation, and I agree): however, I propose instead a non linear relationship between inflation and gas prices, where with an increase in money supply, there will be an increase in prices. I would also recommend adding some other variables, but I digress.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 13, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 13, 2012, 03:54:49 PMhaving said that: it isn't going to disprove the assessment (it's clearly a good correlation, and I agree): however, I propose instead a non linear relationship between inflation and gas prices, where with an increase in money supply, there will be an increase in prices. I would also recommend adding some other variables, but I digress.

I'd also use a dual-scale graph to correlate the rises, with time as the x-axis, to see it all in context.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 13, 2012, 09:34:43 PM
@Shane:  Where did you get the information on M3?  I thought the government stopped publishing that information?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 13, 2012, 10:30:59 PM
There are several places, like ShadowStats, that calculate their own.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 14, 2012, 10:23:52 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 14, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
This is what really bothers me the most about statists I think.  You support socialistic ponzi schemes that allow you to get free stuff and dump the bill onto your children and grandchildren, effectively selling them into slavery and yet you bitch and moan about how how evil and exploitative it is when Wall Street gets a bailout on your dime.
Today on the menu: Fresh crow, seasoned heavily with your hypocrisy! - Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 14, 2012, 11:27:32 PM
For all the people talking about Mitt and Obama's positions as opposed to actions.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 14, 2012, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on June 14, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
This is what really bothers me the most about statists I think.  You support socialistic ponzi schemes that allow you to get free stuff and dump the bill onto your children and grandchildren, effectively selling them into slavery and yet you bitch and moan about how how evil and exploitative it is when Wall Street gets a bailout on your dime.
Today on the menu: Fresh crow, seasoned heavily with your hypocrisy! - Me

That was inspired by RaymondDundas' quote on "new" atheists, I see.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 15, 2012, 12:34:14 AM
A post I did on Enthalpay's response vid to Shane since he'll probably delete it.

"I've never claimed to be the smartest person in the world, in fact I have repeatedly stated that I'm only a layman in the matters I speak of.

I just LOOK like the smartest person in the world when compared to statist infants who shit in bags and try and pass it off as logic. ^^"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 15, 2012, 11:03:57 AM
A quote from Hawkeye that just had to be made into a Condescending Wonka graphic:

(http://i.qkme.me/3pq5iq.jpg) (http://qkme.me/3pq5iq)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 15, 2012, 05:42:41 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/484295_10151031203710987_396485551_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 15, 2012, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 15, 2012, 05:42:41 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/484295_10151031203710987_396485551_n.jpg)

bloody Obamatons.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 15, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 15, 2012, 11:03:57 AM
A quote from Hawkeye that just had to be made into a Condescending Wonka graphic:

(http://i.qkme.me/3pq5iq.jpg) (http://qkme.me/3pq5iq)

My life is complete.  ^^

Obama pic had me laughing hysterically for a good 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2012, 04:01:58 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-biggest-pussifications-schools/
And five more reasons why public schools are lame.  Note how many are from schools in New York.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 16, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 16, 2012, 04:01:58 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-biggest-pussifications-schools/
And five more reasons why public schools are lame.  Note how many are from schools in New York.

these people are absolute sissies alright: why can't they be as manly as us Arabs?

I mean, when I was in school, we had one guy get away with threatening to hang us all by our testicles if we didn't remember a chemical reaction in the next week's oral exam; nobody failed the oral--or even made less than 100% (yes, he had the hooks). The same guy invented the dread "0 cubed" (Arabic: sifr tak'eeb): 0 in the written exam, therefore 0 in the shafawi (oral exam), 0 in participation, for a grand total of 0 out of 20 every 5 weeks. (yes, you read that right: he gave you a 0 in the other two section on making a zero on the exam; sometimes, he didn't even wait on that--lazy students were often just given it).

of course, their fame stems from the fact that these were the exceptions to the rule: most teachers were cool, but strict too: they expected you to do your work: don't, and you get a zero (though no testicle hanging).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2012, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 16, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
these people are absolute sissies alright: why can't they be as manly as us Arabs?

I mean, when I was in school, we had one guy get away with threatening to hang us all by our testicles if we didn't remember a chemical reaction in the next week's oral exam; nobody failed the oral--or even made less than 100% (yes, he had the hooks). The same guy invented the dread "0 cubed" (Arabic: sifr tak'eeb): 0 in the written exam, therefore 0 in the shafawi (oral exam), 0 in participation, for a grand total of 0 out of 20 every 5 weeks. (yes, you read that right: he gave you a 0 in the other two section on making a zero on the exam; sometimes, he didn't even wait on that--lazy students were often just given it).

of course, their fame stems from the fact that these were the exceptions to the rule: most teachers were cool, but strict too: they expected you to do your work: don't, and you get a zero (though no testicle hanging).

The more you know!  Hm..I don't usually think "manly" when thinking about arabs, but then foreign (or even local) cultures aren't really my bag.
Reminds me of a bit from Michael Rosen where he tells that children weren't allowed to breath in his primary school class.  Where the weak ones keeled over and died.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 16, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
Reminds me of a Rodney Dangerfield quote: "My school was so tough, when they told one kid to demonstrate the law of gravity, he threw the teacher out the window!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
@Shane & Ibrahim90:  So we're up to 7, up from 5 additional reasons to abolish government "education".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 01:57:55 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 16, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
@Shane & Ibrahim90:  So we're up to 7, up from 5 additional reasons to abolish government "education".

I should have made this clear: the high-school was a private one, and it had little to no government backing (they were required to give Islamic classes, and evolution was banned--though the former wasn't forced down non-Muslims, and the latter was ignored in part). I suspect the only reason that fellow was retained was simply due to a lack of effective substitutes--it's hard to get good chemistry teachers in Kuwait (my school was the best private science-oriented high school). And as much of an ass as he was, few who survived him disputed the fact that they potentially learned more under him than they would have under most other chemistry teachers in other high-schools.

having said that: Public schools are WAY worse in Kuwait. the only reason I never went there was simply because I do not have Kuwaiti citizenship--and thank God for it. It's a fact that going to a private school had left me several steps ahead of people here in America--when I came here as a high school senior, I knew more than most Americans would know when they are well past senior year. And since having balls is a requirement to do well in an Arab school, I wasn't afraid to make that part known. It, along with some other things, was one reason I never got along with the locals. People always find me blunt, vulgar, and very domineering, which is funny, because in Kuwait the other students always thought I was quiet, softspoken, and being younger than them, a little more childish, even prudish (I was 1-3 years younger than most other students). mind you, I don't really say anything I wouldn't say to an Arab. My own dad still thinks that: he even broke the habit of talking to me in Arabic so he could call me a mother's boy XD

either way, this actually happened, and he obviously wasn't the only example. I could talk about the guy who used collective punishment, or the other guy who would randomly cuss for no reason.

QuoteThe more you know!  Hm..I don't usually think "manly" when thinking about arabs, but then foreign (or even local) cultures aren't really my bag.

that's always what I'm curious about: what non Arabs think about Arabs. so how "manly" are Arabs perceived to be? and why?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 17, 2012, 07:14:42 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 01:57:55 AM

that's always what I'm curious about: what non Arabs think about Arabs. so how "manly" are Arabs perceived to be? and why?


I met a fairly highly-placed Saudi once (I was told his father was a Prince).  He came off (to me, at least) as oily, shallow, vain, and more than a bit stupid.

Now, I'm left-handed, and I met him at dinner (eating with the left hand is a BIG no-no in most Muslim cultures) and I was restraining myself from leaping over the table and beating him senseless over something he'd done to a friend of mine the day before, but he didn't manage to come off at all well.  (Unlike most young Saudi men, he actually had a job.  A government job, of course, given his social class.  He was either in PR or Intelligence, we never found out which, we only knew his job involved reading foreign newspapers.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 17, 2012, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 01:57:55 AMthat's always what I'm curious about: what non Arabs think about Arabs. so how "manly" are Arabs perceived to be? and why?

I've met a few Arabs before. They were just guys. I don't really know what to "think" of Arabs. They're people.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 17, 2012, 05:07:24 PM
About time someone did this:

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fda6850/turbine/la-fi-tn-internet-explorer-7-tax-20120614-001/600) (http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-internet-explorer-7-tax-20120614,0,2401787.story)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 17, 2012, 07:14:42 AM
I met a fairly highly-placed Saudi once (I was told his father was a Prince).  He came off (to me, at least) as oily, shallow, vain, and more than a bit stupid.

that'll do it.


@ Shane: it's more a question to surhot: I just wanted to know what that was about--I was curious ;)

as to the Internet Tax: I think that IE in general should be taxed in general.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2012, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
that'll do it.


@ Shane: it's more a question to surhot: I just wanted to know what that was about--I was curious ;)

as to the Internet Tax: I think that IE in general should be taxed in general.

Eh, Shane pretty much answered the question in a way I would have so I didn't feel a need to reply.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 17, 2012, 09:41:38 PM
ah, OK  :)

in other news, I found this awesome picture: It may be from the 1800's, but I feel it expresses my feelings about today's politicians very well:

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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Keppler_Credit_Mobilier_Hari-Kari.png/800px-Keppler_Credit_Mobilier_Hari-Kari.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 18, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Greatest rip on the argument from incredulity.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/248080_434558616576535_1165226051_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 18, 2012, 08:32:46 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 18, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Greatest rip on the argument from incredulity.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/248080_434558616576535_1165226051_n.jpg)

Damnit, Goaticus! Now I'm hungry for bread. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 18, 2012, 08:42:39 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 18, 2012, 08:32:46 AM
Damnit, Goaticus! Now I'm hungry for bread. :P

I am too.......especially since my stupid diet doesn't allow me to have any.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 18, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article/85_6-bullshit-facts-about-psychology-that-everyone-believes/
Always a classic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19883_5-epic-achievements-that-arent-as-impressive-as-you-think.html

Fucking win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2012, 10:05:14 PM
And while I'm at it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2012, 10:14:39 PM
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Far warning, I haven't watched this one, but just from the title, I can tell it's going to be win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
Last one for now (I promise!):

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This is even *if* you don't accept the fact that statism--especially communism--is a cult.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 21, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17qcpsjrr9b2ogif/original.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 21, 2012, 01:58:26 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 21, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17qcpsjrr9b2ogif/original.gif)

sounds about right...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2012, 06:48:24 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 21, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17qcpsjrr9b2ogif/original.gif)

Reminds me of a Feynman quote: "Science is like sex: it has practical and tangible results, but that's not why we do it."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 21, 2012, 03:57:03 PM
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for the record, I don't think he is the most arrogant man, though being a US politician, he sure is up there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 21, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 21, 2012, 03:57:03 PM
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for the record, I don't think he is the most arrogant man, though being a US politician, he sure is up there.

One bit of fail in that video though. The person claims that we were perfectly fine with the healthcare we have right now. That is completely not true. Sure, it's not flat out socialized healthcare, but the corporatist system we have now is far from good.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 21, 2012, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: D on June 21, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
One bit of fail in that video though. The person claims that we were perfectly fine with the healthcare we have right now. That is completely not true. Sure, it's not flat out socialized healthcare, but the corporatist system we have now is far from good.

You appear to have watched a different video than the one I watched, which said that Obama changed health care for millions of people even though they LIKED what they had.  That's not the same thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 22, 2012, 01:39:23 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/mathematical-proof-that-media-sexist-bad-at-math/

Math wins, math always wins.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2012, 07:34:42 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on June 22, 2012, 01:39:23 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/mathematical-proof-that-media-sexist-bad-at-math/

Math wins, math always wins.

About time someone pointed this out. I've never figured out how someone couldn't think that the minute they saw those statistics!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 22, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
From Lewis Black:

QuoteThe only thing dumber than a Republican or a Democrat is when these pricks work together. We have a two party system. The Democratic Party, which is a party of no ideas, and the Republican Party, which is a party of bad ideas. And the way it works is the Republican stands up in congress and goes, 'I GOT A REALLY BAD IDEA!' and the Democrat says, 'AND I CAN MAKE IT SHITTIER!'
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 23, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
From the book Tao of Marketing by Steve Burns. A fictional conversation between Lao Tzu and a Chinese shopkeeper.

""The market is also chaos. It has many forms and never seems to have any direction." "Why?" Hong-meng asked. "People," Lao Tzu replied seriously. "People?" Hong-meng asked, surprised. "What do you mean—people?" "The real market is people," Lao Tzu said simply, as if that were the answer to everything. It's as simple as that. It's not an abstract entity with convoluted definitions, molded by statistics and demographics. It's simply people. When you understand the motivations of the people, then you will begin to understand your market."


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 23, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 23, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
I found this quote the other day, that I just have to post here:

"An oppressive government is worse than a Man-eating tiger"

-Confucius
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 24, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 23, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
I found this quote the other day, that I just have to post here:

"An oppressive government is worse than a Man-eating tiger"

-Confucius

I'll buy that.  A man-eating tiger will, at least occasionally be FULL, and if it gets you will normally just kill you and be done.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 24, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 24, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
I'll buy that.  A man-eating tiger will, at least occasionally be FULL, and if it gets you will normally just kill you and be done.

actually, that was the story: apparently, Confucius was wandering with his disciples, when they found this grieving woman working the fields. On asking what the problem was, she said her husband and son were both killed by a Tiger. On being asked why she didn't move away sooner, she said she was afraid that the other governments might be even oppressive than the one she was under..
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2012, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 24, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
actually, that was the story: apparently, Confucius was wandering with his disciples, when they found this grieving woman working the fields. On asking what the problem was, she said her husband and son were both killed by a Tiger. On being asked why she didn't move away sooner, she said she was afraid that the other governments might be even oppressive than the one she was under..

So that's death # what caused by governments?  #2,432,564,234?  At least?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 24, 2012, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 24, 2012, 03:24:33 PM
So that's death # what caused by governments?  #2,432,564,234?  At least?

What's the one about how even the greediest tyrant is occasionally satisfied with what he's taken from those under his rule, while the tyrant who acts for the claimed good of all never stops because he never feels the slightest pang of conscience for his actions?  I always thought it missed the real source of the tireless efforts of such people:  They're convinced that ceasing for even a moment is doing evil.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 24, 2012, 03:36:03 PM
What's the one about how even the greediest tyrant is occasionally satisfied with what he's taken from those under his rule, while the tyrant who acts for the claimed good of all never stops because he never feels the slightest pang of conscience for his actions?  I always thought it missed the real source of the tireless efforts of such people:  They're convinced that ceasing for even a moment is doing evil.

So all tyrants then.  I've yet to see a single tyrant in all of history that *didn't* claim to be working for some 'greater good'.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 26, 2012, 05:40:27 AM
I very rarely go on reddit, but today I was very pleasantly surprised by this conversation.

Quote[–]REXXT 21 points 2 days ago

I'm a Democrat and I'm 90% sure I'm voting Johnson. Care to have an honorary pact so we both know we're canceling out each other's votes?

   [–]LincolnSt 4 points 1 day ago*

Honor is important to me, so yes, I'll agree to your pact.

Consider this message a handshake, which is binding.

edit I should say that I consider a handshake to be binding. Not that you do, or that I am forcing you into a pact. Just wanted to make that clear. Thanks.

[–]REXXT 5 points 1 day ago

I think you and I feel similarly about honor. Our internet handshake is as binding as a real one in my book. Gary Johnson just got 2 votes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 26, 2012, 01:36:49 PM
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The fundamental flaw in Kenysian economics.  They support government intervention which makes the market complete unpredictable and arbitrary and then claim that they understand it as a hard science.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 26, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
This reminds me of my brother and his brother in-law.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/0/5/135405.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 26, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
"Crime doesn't pay...neither does redistributing the wealth!" - Batman

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 26, 2012, 08:06:57 PM
Quote from: D on June 26, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
"Crime doesn't pay...neither does redistributing the wealth!" - Batman

[yt]6yjI5238Zxc[/yt]

finally, Batman shows his true colors :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
SCHOOL'D!!!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
Telling it like it is: (http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/26/why-dont-you-need-us/)

QuotePeople think money drives politics. It doesn't. Money is merely the vehicle. Power drives Washington. As Carney points out, Hatch has spent a good deal of his time on the Judiciary Committee targeting Microsoft. So he wasn't mad that the company wasn't giving him money—they weren't giving to his opponents, either. Hatch was angry that the company wasn't acknowledging that it needs Washington, that it needs people like him. He finds that offensive. So people like Hatch make companies like Google need people like Hatch.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
SCHOOL'D!!!

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can't see i from here,  (copyright take-down) though if it's the one I think it is, yeah, that Portland copper was OWNED!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
can't see i from here,  (copyright take-down) though if it's the one I think it is, yeah, that Portland copper was OWNED!

Apparently, that was a mirror. I've replaced it with the original.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
SCHOOL'D!!!

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yep, that's the one.

checking his channel out, this isn't the first time he's done it either.

[yt]Ifv5qfuXmKQ&feature=plcp[/yt]

there's only one reply to this:

[spoiler](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/987/fyeah.jpg)
(it's suppose to also have "F*ck yeah! below it)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 28, 2012, 07:10:21 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/582122_10151004887724872_378329174_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19910_5-things-you-wont-believe-are-making-you-dumber.html

#3 is the epic win quote.  Stefan Molyneux would be proud. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 28, 2012, 06:33:24 PM
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/544367_10150998382176489_689716814_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 28, 2012, 09:15:55 PM
[yt]8JEXMW9WSlg[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 29, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
"Conspiracy theories may sound complicated, but the belief that a few powerful men control the world is remarkably simplistic: we can replace the ones who currently twist the reins of power for their own ends with more benevolent men who twist them to the benefit of all. But with no real puppet masters to slay, the conspiratorial just chase shadows, distracting from the real causes of the world's problems."

---Dan Bier
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 30, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
A little outdated, but I have no problem with anything that makes fun of PETA.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 30, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/250849_10151009797424872_773233519_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 30, 2012, 11:28:39 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 30, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/250849_10151009797424872_773233519_n.jpg)

to which I usually reply "no shit!"

srsly, you have no idea how many people just don't get that this "free healthcare" doesn't exist. well, you probably do, but you get my point...

There was that one video, I had three people in a row telling me healthcare in Sweden or sth was free--after clearly explaining why it isn't free. I even explained that you could likely get the same quality healthcare for less in the free market, because you don't have the bureaucracy to pay for, or all that red tape. note that I also took care to point out that the US is NOT an example of a "free market" system.

still didn't stop them...I had to tell them to actually read what I said (directing them to the time and to whom I was replying), since they just kept saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 01, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2012/06/29/why-we-oppose-conspiracy-theories/

Quote[A]t the Skeptical Libertarian, we oppose conspiracy theories not merely because they are bad press for libertarianism, but because they are not supported by the facts. If the libertarian movement gained influence as a result of its proclivity for paranoid conspiracies, we would still oppose them. First and foremost, our commitment is to reality—popular or not—and to a conversation based on reason and evidence. Intellectual honesty is our core value, and scientific skepticism is the surest way to preserve that integrity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 01, 2012, 08:28:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/z6TQj.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 02, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/528166_10150987265014454_172179450_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 03, 2012, 01:30:13 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/564148_327866623964644_661292895_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 03, 2012, 05:31:47 AM
(http://t.qkme.me/3pomxn.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 03, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on July 03, 2012, 05:31:47 AM
(http://t.qkme.me/3pomxn.jpg)

Gary Johnson climbed Everest? for real?

if he did, he definitely has my endorsement! for the only thing better than a smart capable man, is a physically tough smart capable man...with balls of brass.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 03, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
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Despite the other 3 being tools, Schiff is awesome here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 03, 2012, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 03, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Gary Johnson climbed Everest? for real?

Yep, with a broken leg!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 03, 2012, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 03, 2012, 06:47:06 PM
Yep, with a broken leg!

I'd be skeptical about the broken leg part, if I didn't know about the hockey player who played in a playoff game with a broken leg.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 04, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 03, 2012, 06:47:06 PM
Yep, with a broken leg!

I take he didn't start out with that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 05, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/483302_334405196639890_2065704445_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 05, 2012, 09:52:23 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on July 05, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/483302_334405196639890_2065704445_n.jpg)

They left out: "Blame the free market."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 05, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
"The state is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it tells lies too; and this lie crawls from its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people.'" —Friedrich Nietzsche
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 05, 2012, 04:11:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 05, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
"The state is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it tells lies too; and this lie crawls from its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people.'" —Friedrich Nietzsche

And to think how many people can't tell Friedrich Nietzche's work from that of his sister Elizabeth.  (Yes, yes, I know she deliberately conflated her work with his, but it shouldn't fool people when her work is so often the polar opposite of his.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 06, 2012, 12:50:55 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 06, 2012, 04:54:25 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 03, 2012, 06:47:06 PM
Yep, with a broken leg!

Gary Johnson also fell 50 feet and broke bones in his back, ribs, and knee. He used Marijuana as part of his pain management regimen and now fights for legalization. Contrast that with all the Presidents who used drugs and still do their best to lock more people up.

It's funny that we know for a fact that every President for the past twenty years used drugs illegally, but we still keep it illegal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 06, 2012, 11:02:51 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 07, 2012, 03:46:30 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 06, 2012, 12:50:55 AM
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Wow, has THAT ever picked up some Fail Quotes fodder in the comments.

There's a guy who STARTS with the prattle about how native peoples in the New World used to 'live in harmony with nature'.

That's an endearing image, but it only appeared that way after our ancestors accidentally killed about 95% of them with new diseases that hadn't experienced before.  Not only were they as destructive to the environment as every other culture at a similar tech level, there's a reason why the terms nearly every cultural group used for adjacent groups of dissimilar culture translates as 'enemy'.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 07, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 07, 2012, 03:46:30 AMThat's an endearing image, but it only appeared that way after our ancestors accidentally killed about 95% of them with new diseases that hadn't experienced before.

Actually most of them died off of disease before our ancestors got there. The reasons why the Vikings never colonized America is because there was a smegload of natives there ready to kick their asses all the way back to Greenland.

QuoteNot only were they as destructive to the environment as every other culture at a similar tech level, there's a reason why the terms nearly every cultural group used for adjacent groups of dissimilar culture translates as 'enemy'.

Let's not forget: it was the natives that hunted the North American camels to extinction. That's why North America is the only continent (except for Antarctica) that doesn't have them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 07, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 07, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Actually most of them died off of disease before our ancestors got there. The reasons why the Vikings never colonized America is because there was a smegload of natives there ready to kick their asses all the way back to Greenland.


Shane...

If there were no Europeans here yet...

Who brought the diseases?

All the accounts from Europeans from before about the late 1630's indicate a pretty dense population of native peoples throughout the more habitable regions of the Americas (even in the Amazon basin and deserts where there was a persistent water supply).  The main plague event in North America was 1638-9, which killed 90-95% of the native population.  When the Pilgrims showed up at Plymouth in 1640, Squanto was the only  native person around, and that was only because he'd only just got there himself (having spent the last several years trying to get home from being enslaved in Spain).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 07, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 07, 2012, 12:23:16 PMIf there were no Europeans here yet...

Who brought the diseases?

The same "people" who brought the bubonic plague to Europe?

QuoteThe main plague event in North America was 1638-9, which killed 90-95% of the native population.

That's what I'm talking about, but it had been going on for years before that, it just wasn't until then that it hit the east coast.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 07, 2012, 01:39:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 07, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
The same "people" who brought the bubonic plague to Europe?

Intergalactic Insurance Salesmen?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 07, 2012, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 07, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
The same "people" who brought the bubonic plague to Europe?


That was the Mongols, Shane.  They brought it with them from China when they came into the Crimea, and passed it on to Italian merchants who accidentally took it with them back to Italy when they fled.

The worst of the diseases introduced by Europeans to the New World was smallpox (possibly the greatest killer in history).  That's the real secret of how Cortes conquered the Aztecs:  He accidentally introduced a plague that killed most of them and left the survivors in no condition to fight.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 07, 2012, 09:57:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 07, 2012, 10:05:21 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on July 07, 2012, 09:57:44 PM
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when bears face-palm, seek help.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 07, 2012, 10:05:46 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/425388_359886527412903_1540892242_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 07, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/8050_475686932458615_1337553031_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 08, 2012, 09:53:23 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 09, 2012, 11:43:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 11, 2012, 12:28:21 PM
"More than at any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." --Woody Allen
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 11, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
Source (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/07/06/penn-jillette-speaks-out-role-government)

Penn Jillette: [T]he most important thing is for the government to allow more freedom than I want for myself. Morality has to be a subset—the most important thing is that people in this country feel like they are living legally. There's nobody in this country right now that can say with complete confidence they are doing nothing illegal. We have too many laws. What you need to do, is if you are a good person, you should have no fear of the government. It comes back to the Al Capone thing that we busted him on income tax invasion. You don't want to feel good about that. You don't want to feel good that the government can bust anybody on anything they want. You want to be able to do good things. Much smaller laws. You know, my son, when he gets to be 12 years old, should be able to understand everything that's illegal and everything that's not. There shouldn't be this huge amount of illegal things you can do. Someone who is a good person should have no fear of the government whatsoever.

Sean Hannity: All right, I lost this debate. I can't win this debate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 12, 2012, 09:28:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 12, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: D on July 12, 2012, 09:28:44 AM
[yt]LlblduvPeCs[/yt]

@ 2:18

you know, this is the part that pisses me off, every time I hear it.

It's not a question of "we must take care of the elderly". I think we all want to do that--I hope we all want to.

but these programs don't do that, and are a shitty and unnecessary way of doing so, even if it really did do that. Why must we have a government do it for us?

I think I can take care of my elders without government help, just like my Dad took care of his, and his dad before him took care of his. none of us needed govco, and I doubt we ever will.

just let people run their own lives, and take care of who they want and can.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 14, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pep_rally.png)

Applies to Nationalism too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 15, 2012, 05:43:47 PM
I think I might have found the perfect theme song for Politicians in general, and a certain judge in particular:

[yt]3BDyFuDxA-I&feature=related[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 16, 2012, 11:03:35 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 17, 2012, 12:31:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 18, 2012, 04:16:26 AM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/389113_161407437328130_361149196_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 19, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
In the 1970s, the neo-Keynesians were wrong and their work is worthless today. At the same time, Harry Browne was right and his work is just as relevant today as it was then:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 19, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
[yt]ClGCGyKV_Co[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 19, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 19, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
In the 1970s, the neo-Keynesians were wrong and their work is worthless today. At the same time, Harry Browne was right and his work is just as relevant today as it was then:

[yt]ah7Y2rHuhCs[/yt]

Not surprising since our current situation is a lot like the 70's. Of course even in the 90's when I first started reading Harry a lot of his investment advice was good and How To Live Free in an Unfree World is timeless.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 19, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on July 19, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
Not surprising since our current situation is a lot like the 70's. Of course even in the 90's when I first started reading Harry a lot of his investment advice was good and How To Live Free in an Unfree World is timeless.

wish my mom listened to him. my brother and I are regretting every moment my mom didn't....

now we're stuck cleaning her mess...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 19, 2012, 09:52:58 PM
"The Presidents of unions are the 1%" --jwein8282000 in this video's comments: 

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 21, 2012, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 23, 2009, 05:04:11 PM
H.L. Mencken:

"Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty—and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."

Wow...that actually comes off as rather elitist.
Though it reminded me of a bit from Stefan Molyneux.  His answer to the question, Best underdog of all time?  "The masses". (which was a fav quote for me.)

From this win quote video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 21, 2012, 09:30:05 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532572_162619033873637_925617401_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 21, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1342833747530_692776.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 21, 2012, 07:03:26 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/549686_162777473857793_2040968714_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 21, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
[yt]AwebTX3rk3E[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 21, 2012, 11:48:54 PM
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself." - Richard Burton.

That was also the top rated comment (as of this posting) on the above video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 21, 2012, 11:58:11 PM
well, I'm going to have to cite D's new signature image as a fave. it describes my attitude every time I hear government (or mom) do sth stupid.  :P

srsly, I can now understand why Dad loves married...with children.

EDIT: will also add this quote, about how even the enemy are people. I wish certain people thought like the man below:

Quote from: Mahmoud Darwish
    "I will continue to humanise even the enemy... The first teacher who taught me Hebrew was a Jew. The first love affair in my life was with a Jewish girl. The first judge who sent me to prison was a Jewish woman. So from the beginning, I didn't see Jews as devils or angels but as human beings." Several poems are to Jewish lovers. "These poems take the side of love not war,"[3]

srsly, if ever a Palestinian deserved a Nobel prize, it's Mahmoud Darwish. Too bad he died.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 22, 2012, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: D on July 21, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
[yt]AwebTX3rk3E[/yt]

Quite apart from the excellent sentiment, he deserves a fav for using the term 'null set' correctly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2012, 10:12:58 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19455_5-common-crime-fighting-tactics-statistics-say-dont-work.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19636_5-simple-ideas-that-could-make-travel-and-life-way-easier.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19937_the-6-most-popular-crime-fighting-tactics-that-dont-work.html

Damn it cracked!  You got it going on!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2012, 10:29:37 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19935_8-ridiculous-animal-myths-you-probably-believe_p2.html

Can someone please explain number 2 to my mom?
(Not really.  I'm just saying.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 23, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
"There's small choice in rotten apples." – William Shakespeare
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
[yt]QqU9JFbtucU[/yt]

EDIT:  I just learned from this forum's D, that this is the same shit that's been going on for a year now...wtf atheist community!?  This (along with rampant statism) is why I have issues associating myself with you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 23, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19925_the-5-stupidest-things-ever-done-with-borders.html
Holy fuck!  And I thought the idea behind borders was fucking stupid as is.  Guess I didn't know just how far the stupid has been taken.

The ironic thing about numbers 5, 4 and 1?
This is the exact same bullshit statists say will happen if we privatize roads.
Color me surprised! (not really.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 23, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/311611_10151052764884658_1339449407_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 23, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/549582_163488427120031_992870065_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 24, 2012, 03:39:18 AM
Quote from: D on July 23, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/549582_163488427120031_992870065_n.jpg)

Saved.  Along with the one above it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 24, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
John Stewart slams Brian Ross and ABC for making up nonsense about the Aurora shooting.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 24, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=pM9xqTONr5g  This guy just goes on and on...

Seriously, he effectively argues that the scientific method doesn't work...on his COMPUTER!!

As our good friend Judge Judy often said: Either you're playing dumb or it's not an act.

(Should be in fail quotes, apologies)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 25, 2012, 08:36:03 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/481967_418485108192779_25451075_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 25, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
A retort to the complete fail I just posted in Fail Quotes.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/428803_428967147146976_721655584_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 25, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
"Gun Control: The idea that people cannot be trusted with guns because they might do harm, so we need laws to prevent people getting guns, which will be enforced by giving guns to government agents that come from the same pool of people who couldn't be trusted with guns in the first place." --Me (I do have my moments)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 25, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: D on July 25, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
A retort to the complete fail I just posted in Fail Quotes.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/428803_428967147146976_721655584_n.jpg)

Plus, you know, the opportunity to be a complete prick.  When did God ever turn down an opportunity to do that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 26, 2012, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 25, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
"Gun Control: The idea that people cannot be trusted with guns because they might do harm, so we need laws to prevent people getting guns, which will be enforced by giving guns to government agents that come from the same pool of people who couldn't be trusted with guns in the first place." --Me (I do have my moments)
Very well said. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 26, 2012, 09:28:53 AM
(http://www.macromeme.com/cat/truth-of-christmas.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 26, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
it's a comedy, but I think this scene pretty much sums up how the Federal government works: placing chickenshit things ahead of important ones.


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 11:07:28 AM
Two more wins from cracked:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19363_6-reasons-your-plans-to-move-abroad-might-not-work-out.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19628_9-ridiculous-cooking-myths-you-probably-believe.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/refuse-to-flip-burgers.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
(http://www.macromemeless.com/cat/growing-up-tom-and-jerry.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 12:37:18 PM
Edit:  disturbing (but still win) picture put behind spoiler.
[spoiler](http://macromeme.com/cat/oxford-comma-corrections.jpg)[/spoiler]

Touché, UK.  Touché.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 27, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 27, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/refuse-to-flip-burgers.jpg)

Is it wrong that I actually feel entitled to smugly say that they are indeed entitled assholes because I too went to college, got a degree, went through a bad bit there when two reasonably-paying jobs in a row offshored on me, and actually do the equivalent of flipping burgers?  You gotta do what you gotta do, assholes.  If flipping burgers is what makes sense (and it did, when expenses are taken into account, I ended up with more money in my pocket at the end of the week flipping burgers than doing the helpdesk job I was offered the same day) then that's what you do.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 27, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
Is it wrong that I actually feel entitled to smugly say that they are indeed entitled assholes because I too went to college, got a degree, went through a bad bit there when two reasonably-paying jobs in a row offshored on me, and actually do the equivalent of flipping burgers?  You gotta do what you gotta do, assholes.  If flipping burgers is what makes sense (and it did, when expenses are taken into account, I ended up with more money in my pocket at the end of the week flipping burgers than doing the helpdesk job I was offered the same day) then that's what you do.
His point still stands.  And yes, many people in colleges are entitled/arrogant pricks.  I'm still in college.  I should know.  Really, all the more reason to get gov't out of the way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/nailclippers-hijack.png)

Well, despite the typo in the first line, it's still a win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 01:27:12 PM
Edit:  very tall picture put under spoiler.
[spoiler](http://www.macromemeless.com/cat/card-mood-kill.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 27, 2012, 04:31:35 PM
Full. Of. WIN!

http://www.economicsjunkie.com/you-didnt-build-that/

QuoteIf you're a successful bureaucrat, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I lied better than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of lying politicians out there.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was an innovative entrepreneur somewhere whose tax payments funded your position. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody's money was taken at the threat of imprisonment and handed over to you and your cronies to pay for roads and bridges, regardless of whether they agreed to if, how, where, by whom, and at what price.

If you've got a high ranking position and a pretty office with a federal, state, or city flag in it — you didn't build that. Some homeowner's property tax, some businessman's corporate/payroll tax, or some wage earner's income tax money was used to fund it, somebody else made that happen.

The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Businesses and voluntary open source communities made the Internet useful, only to have bureaucrats utilize those services to enhance the efficiency of their spying, looting and propaganda, and to support the entire edifice of an ever more growing, bloated, and intrusive police state.

The point is, is that when we bureaucrats succeed, we succeed on the backs of hard working individuals, entrepreneurs, and future generations who weren't even given the illusion of a choice in this matter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2012, 04:59:37 PM
Fucking Win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 27, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
This (http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/07/26/obama-and-romney-are-wrong-outsourcing-is-america-at-its-best/)

QuoteEconomic nationalism is as morally outrageous as racism. Buying on the basis of nationality or race is the same collectivist evil: judging men and their products by the group from which they come, not by merit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 28, 2012, 03:33:38 AM
Quote from: D on July 27, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
This (http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/07/26/obama-and-romney-are-wrong-outsourcing-is-america-at-its-best/)

Economic nationalism may be worse than some other forms of collectivism.

Recall the very true quote:  Where trade crosses borders, armies don't.

EVERY would-be imperialist expansionist starts with trying to economically isolate the state they control from the state(s) they wish to conquer.  Why?  Because you can't afford a war with any state your state is economically dependent on.

This is why war between China and Taiwan is conceivable, but US intervention in such a war is difficult to either do or not do.  (China, incidentally, could destroy Taiwan, but not capture it.  They just don't have the sea lift capability to put soldiers on Taiwan faster than the Taiwanese military could kill them.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 28, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/391487_390520571003085_1305383480_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 28, 2012, 12:26:31 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/599381_390517944336681_1737593066_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 28, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/599943_501105073249198_202803895_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2012, 03:18:55 PM
ZING!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
Lord T Hawkeye: "Government is a non-answer."
Me: "Government is the question.  'No' is the answer."

I do have my moments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 28, 2012, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 28, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
Lord T Hawkeye: "Government is a non-answer."
Me: "Government is the question.  'No' is the answer."

I do have my moments.

Not original, but not bad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 28, 2012, 03:28:57 PM
Not original, but not bad.
It was based off of an online pic of a guy saying, "Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question.  'Yes' is the answer."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2012, 03:38:51 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/over-9000-tv-price.jpg)

Perfect setup was perfect.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 28, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110826.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 29, 2012, 12:35:18 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/28/idaho-billboard-compares-obama-to-aurora-shooting-suspect_n_1713895.html?icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D185414

Lord T Hawkeye approves!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 29, 2012, 03:17:22 AM
The real outrage is where are all the billboards with all the other presidents that had that kind of record thanks to their foreign entanglements.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 29, 2012, 03:20:29 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 29, 2012, 03:17:22 AMThe real outrage is where are all the billboards with all the other presidents that had that kind of record thanks to their foreign entanglements.

And you just earned your 21st anti-bogon. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 29, 2012, 04:41:05 AM
For the sake of fairness, here are some win images from BlameThe1st:

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/263073894/top_10_economic_myths_busted_by_blamethe1st-d4cml46.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 29, 2012, 04:41:24 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/282922944/what_deregulation__by_blamethe1st-d4og0qo.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 29, 2012, 04:58:54 AM
Some more from DA, this time from AnarchisThinker's signature:

When life gives you lemons, MAKE LIFE TAKE THE LEMONS BACK!
-Cave Johnson

Early to bed and early to rise
Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise - Benjamin Franklin

Early to rise and early to bed
Makes a man healthy, but socially dead - Yakko
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 29, 2012, 07:53:33 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 29, 2012, 03:17:22 AM
The real outrage is where are all the billboards with all the other presidents that had that kind of record thanks to their foreign entanglements.

It must suck for Obama to be the first President in the age of internet graphic memes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 29, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
"Liberty means transparency for the government and privacy for the individual. Tyranny means transparency for the individual and privacy for the government." --Me

(Well, I like it, anyways.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 29, 2012, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 29, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
"Liberty means transparency for the government and privacy for the individual. Tyranny means transparency for the individual and privacy for the government." --Me

(Well, I like it, anyways.)

Reminds me of the ad copy for "V for Vendetta":

People shouldn't be afraid of their governments.  Governments should be afraid of their people.

Of course, it always seems to me that the government in V for Vendetta was utterly terrified of the people, at least, if they ever woke up...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 29, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20091226.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 29, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 29, 2012, 01:58:58 PMOf course, it always seems to me that the government in V for Vendetta was utterly terrified of the people, at least, if they ever woke up...

Every tyrant lives in fear of the day the people realize they're stronger than he is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 29, 2012, 10:42:59 PM
well, this favorite quote is from my mom, after a conversation we had:

me: "Mom, what would you say if I told you someone had nominated for the office of president of the United States, a Horse?" (I was alluding to Caligula's nomination of a horse for Consul-Incitatus)

Mom: "wouldn't be surprised"

me: "why wouldn't you  be surprised"

Mom: "because we already have had Horses' asses nominated for that, so it stands to reason that the whole horse would eventually get nominated".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 30, 2012, 08:10:22 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 30, 2012, 01:23:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 30, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 31, 2012, 10:48:02 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 01, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
"Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles." - Charlie Chaplin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19733_5-things-they-dont-want-you-to-know-about-olympics.html

Much obliged, Hawkeye! And cracked! ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 02, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19733_5-things-they-dont-want-you-to-know-about-olympics.html

Much obliged, Hawkeye! And cracked! ^_^

Amazing, isn't it? Wherever you have athletics, bogosity isn't far behind.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 02, 2012, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
Amazing, isn't it? Wherever you have athletics, bogosity isn't far behind.

The brand police business made the CBC Radio 1 morning talk show last week.  (I quite like that show.  It's the same one where the head of the biggest Federal civil servant's union got skewered for doing things like complaining that entire programs might be shut down in the current budget cuts, and some of the programs are over a hundred years old.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
From the following video, which is also a win: 

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"Anything other than immediate self defense is the initiation of force." -- 2:24 to 2:26

THANK YOU!  Or rather,  "Anything other than necessary self defense is the initiation of force."  But still very much win.  Something few people seem to know is that the "self defense" bit used by libertarians is used ONLY to differentiate between the initiation of force and defensive force.  None of this, "well he hit me, so I hit him back" retaliatory bullshit.  Retaliatory force IS initiation of force in the libertarian sense and even in the legal sense, IIRC.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 02, 2012, 05:27:22 PMRetaliatory force IS initiation of force in the libertarian sense and even in the legal sense, IIRC.

There are two things that make retributive force good in Libertarianism: one is where the use of force prevents further initiations, and the other is what helps make the victim whole again (and I mean REALLY, like forcing him to pay restitution, NOT by allowing the victim to press the button turning on the electric chair).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 06:03:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 05:53:03 PMThere are two things that make retributive force good in Libertarianism: one is where the use of force prevents further initiations, and the other is what helps make the victim whole again (and I mean REALLY, like forcing him to pay restitution, NOT by allowing the victim to press the button turning on the electric chair).

Speak for yourself, Shane. :P
I'm a libertarian--an anarcho capitalist--and I disagree on that one.

Those both sound like initiations of force.  The first one in particular has the problem you mention in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LW1kbFsDC4) of being too open ended, and the other one doesn't sound much better.

*EDIT* Though I see you used big "l" libertarianism there.  Hm.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 06:24:08 PM
"Premarital sex only has problems if you're an idiot about it. And you've obviously never been to the Bible belt because we have the highest teen pregnancy, STD, and abortion rate even though we're very religious. At my high school alone there were 7 Christian teen moms in my graduating class.

The number of Atheist students pregnant: 0 because we learned about safe sex from our parents." --renoloverxoxo top comment on this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16PpvdpMXo
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 07:50:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 02, 2012, 07:57:06 PM
And while I'm on the subject of Global Warming/Climate Change:

https://mises.org/daily/4673/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 02, 2012, 10:25:33 PM
"I don't want "Under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance.
I want the Pledge of Allegiance removed.
Live beyond blind nationalism." - Justin Quest (friend from Facebook)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: D on August 02, 2012, 10:25:33 PM
"I don't want "Under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance.
I want the Pledge of Allegiance removed.
Live beyond blind nationalism." - Justin Quest (friend from Facebook)
The way I usually say it is, "Remove 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance. And the other 29 words as well."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
well, not to butter up or anything, but this was just win:

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So what exactly is the "big dig" about? looking it up, I just get fossil digs or the highlights of Archaeology.

XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 03, 2012, 05:26:33 AM
"Listening to a statist--liberal OR conservative--talk about the state's budget is like listening to a 4 year old talk about his parent's money, but with all the charm removed." -- Me.

What can I say?  I have my moments. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 03, 2012, 10:10:41 AM
QuoteSo what exactly is the "big dig" about? looking it up, I just get fossil digs or the highlights of Archaeology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 03, 2012, 01:09:12 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 03, 2012, 10:10:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig)

I hadn't bothered to check on how badly that project had gone since my first visit to Boston in 2004 (when it was already 6 years late).  At the time, they were claiming it would all be done by the end of 2004.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 03, 2012, 10:10:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig)

wow...just....wow.

growing up, I could name several projects built by illiterate Indian people, with minimal safety (aka none) that went up faster, more cleanly, and WAY more efficiently...All from Kuwait.

helps they were all private real estate deals, but still.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 03, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
wow...just....wow.

growing up, I could name several projects built by illiterate Indian people, with minimal safety (aka none) that went up faster, more cleanly, and WAY more efficiently...All from Kuwait.

helps they were all private real estate deals, but still.

Well, there were probably fewer genuine complications for those as well as fewer political ones.  How many of them involved tunneling through an old garbage dump into a bay?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 03, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
Well, there were probably fewer genuine complications for those as well as fewer political ones.  How many of them involved tunneling through an old garbage dump into a bay?

well, there was the one time they tunneled a sewer into a tourist beach...but No one got killed, and people have moved elsewhere for good swimming water.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 03, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
well, there was the one time they tunneled a sewer into a tourist beach...but No one got killed, and people have moved elsewhere for good swimming water.

Or building a school district on a toxic waste dump--in direct violation of a deed restriction--and then blaming the company who put the waste there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 03, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
Or building a school district on a toxic waste dump--in direct violation of a deed restriction--and then blaming the company who put the waste there.

ah yes, Love canal...No one can forget that one.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 04, 2012, 08:47:37 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
ah yes, Love canal...No one can forget that one.

I think you're slightly missing the point of my comment.

Some of the technical problems with the Bid Dig have to do with the fact that most of Boston is, in fact, built on what amounts to an old garbage dump, a good deal of it in a swamp.  Naturally, the additional complications of digging through such difficult material was not included in the cost estimates.  I doubt that people in India were going this sort of thing when their projects went through without a hitch.  (I suspect one of those projects is a temporary dam...but well over a thousand years ago, and still carrying out the functions for which the never-built 'permanent' damn was intended.)

A lot of the rest was corruption (always a favorite occupation in Boston) and incompetence.  The business with leaks caused by simply not prepping the concrete pouring sites properly and lighting fixtures ready to fall down onto the roadway because dissimilar metals were directly attached to each other (ever heard of PLASTIC WASHERS, you morons?) are pure incompetence.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person." - Socialism

And while I'm at it:  https://mises.org/daily/2259 ("The Swedish Myth")
Again, many thanks, Hawkeye! ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 04, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19431_5-mind-blowing-things-crowds-do-better-than-experts.html
It really would have been a bit nicer if the first item on the first page wasn't about the Somali "pirates."  Last I checked (thanks Shane!) they were actually a private counterpart to a navy...that the rest of the world called pirates, because apparently anarchy literally shouldn't even be given a fucking chance.  Because, you know, they're all so certain it won't work, they won't even let it, and instead have to attack it.  Like a creationist attacking evolution.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 05, 2012, 08:48:40 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 05, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 06, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 04, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19431_5-mind-blowing-things-crowds-do-better-than-experts.html
It really would have been a bit nicer if the first item on the first page wasn't about the Somali "pirates."  Last I checked (thanks Shane!) they were actually a private counterpart to a navy...that the rest of the world called pirates, because apparently anarchy literally shouldn't even be given a fucking chance.  Because, you know, they're all so certain it won't work, they won't even let it, and instead have to attack it.  Like a creationist attacking evolution.

The part about the molecular puzzles made me think that Marry Poppins was right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 06, 2012, 09:55:16 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-you-dont-realize-movies-are-controlling-your-brain/
And people wonder why I don't watch movies...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 06, 2012, 10:38:32 AM
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Easily his best video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 06, 2012, 10:40:15 AM
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Not as good as his best video, but still a close second, IMHO. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 07, 2012, 11:00:55 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 07, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/art/Shock-and-dismay-230173323 ("Shock and dismay...")

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Another-salute-228962074 ("Another salute")

Oldies, but goodies.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 07, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 07, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 07, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/art/Shock-and-dismay-230173323 ("Shock and dismay...")

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Another-salute-228962074 ("Another salute")

Oldies, but goodies.

Here are my thoughts on the subject: http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=7160
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 07, 2012, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 07, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/art/Shock-and-dismay-230173323 ("Shock and dismay...")

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Another-salute-228962074 ("Another salute")

Oldies, but goodies.

for real though? they passed up a person of the caliber of Mrs. Sandler, in favor of Al Gore?

fuck....there really is no justice in this world.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 07, 2012, 08:09:01 PM
Got tired of hearing how Democrats were grassroots and the Koch brothers were buying the election for the Republicans, so I made this:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/7736464150_0421285dfa_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanedk/7736464150/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2012, 09:45:11 AM
Ludwig von Mises:

"The issue is always the same: the government or the market. There is no third solution." --Planned Chaos p. 28

"Capitalism and socialism are two distinct patterns of social organization. Private control of the means of production and public control are contradictory notions and not merely contrary notions. There is no such thing as a mixed economy, a system that would stand midway between capitalism and socialism." --The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality pp. 6465

"What transformed the stagnant conditions of the good old days into the activism of capitalism was not changes in the natural sciences and in technology, but the adoption of the free enterprise principle.   " The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science p. 122

"If one rejects laissez faire on account of mans fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action." --Planning for Freedom p. 44

"Every socialist is a disguised dictator." --Human Action p. 689; p. 693

Ludwig von Mises was the man.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2012, 10:22:41 AM
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4125
("Ten Most Wanted: Celebrities Who Promote Harmful Pseudoscience")

Much obliged Dave! :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 08, 2012, 04:39:55 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2012, 11:54:52 PM
OK, so here are three cracked articles that, despite being posted here are actually on the fence either way.  I honestly considering not posting them, or even making a thread used to discuss whether something is either a win quote or a fail quote.  So I guess I'll just post them here and give the pros (wins) and cons (fails)  of each article..or at least what I was able to get through in one of them (it's late, damn it!).

http://www.cracked.com/article_17061_reminder-5-things-you-think-will-make-you-happy-but-wont.html
(cons:  has Wong's usual overbearing/a-hole tone.  Also makes it out, in usual David Wong fashion, like "the modern world be it the office, or your own wealth, etc, is making you sad and/or killing you!"  Which makes me think he's watched Fight Club one too many times...  Also, brings up the red herring of happiness research, when, according to another article--the next one, there is huge problem even defining the damn concept in that sort of rigorous fashion.  It also seems to blow off libertarians at the end, as if to imply the empirical decisions of what people do in a free market, and are able to therefore do what they want, over just saying 'we are happy!' is somehow less important than it really is.  I can see why that one Mises Institute podcast referring to happiness research/surveys as a 'red herring'.)
(pros:  at the very least, it brings into the equation of relativity into the mix, esp, for people in this country compared to, say a 3rd world nation.  And the need of children to be loved by their parents, and the lack thereof, turning many younger girls into major attention seekers to a rather severe point.)

http://www.cracked.com/article_19376_5-scientific-reasons-your-idea-happiness-wrong.html
(cons:  To be fair, I haven't read the entire item, but #2 already reeks of fail.  Again, see the above on empiricism of what people do, rather than what they claim to feel.  Until they gave me solid, non-anecdotal evidence of people spazzing out on the floors of supermarkets and shitting themselves and seizuring into an early grave from being overwhelmed by the number of choices they have, I'm going to take that with a grain of salt.  If people aren't happier with more choices, then why does a free market almost, if not always have more?  By virtue of being chosen, people believed it would have made them happier, and while a few choices in that direction don't mean much, when enough to establish a wisdom of crowds happens, it's no longer up for debate absent some other--much better than bullshit surveys--evidence.  That's being nice...hell, at worst, it's tautological.)
(pros:  at least admits that the definitions of happiness aren't very rigorous (certainly not to the degree that economic terms are, much less mathematical definitions.)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-ridiculous-things-people-believe-about-god-particle/
(cons:  guys like this are probably what FlowCell had in mind when writing posts of annoyance about people in science being anti-libertarian if not total elitists.  And this article is no exception.  Look, Luke, baby, if people had their money stolen via taxes, you bet your overpriced, overvalued degree they have a right to complain about it and where it is spent, you elitist ass.)
(pros:  it does dispell myths of the Higgs Boson--e.g. Goddamn particle, not "God" particle.  and shits on conspiracy theorists, so there is that.)

Note:  If they are all decided to be fail quotes, no worries, I can always find a good Mises quote or two to put in their place.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 09, 2012, 02:26:04 PM
Quote'Be careful of raising me too high, brother. I have no special strength, unless it is in choosing good men to follow me. The great lie of cities is that we are all too weak to stand against those who oppress us. All I have done is see through that lie. I always fight,Kachiun. Kings and shahs depend on people remaining sheep, too afraid to rise up. All I ever did was realise I can be a wolf to them.

Genghis Khan talking to his brother in Genghis: Bones of the Hills by Conn Iggulden.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 09, 2012, 04:45:57 PM
Kind of goes with my last post.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 09, 2012, 09:00:23 PM
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When Ron Paul is wrong, it's sad, but when he's on, he's fucking on!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 10, 2012, 12:52:35 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 10, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 10, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 10, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
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ah yes, good old fashioned hypocrisy. nothing like it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 11, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
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My pick for who Romney picks as VP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 11, 2012, 04:19:39 PM
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Thanks D!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 11, 2012, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 11, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
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My pick for who Romney picks as VP.

I personally think it will be that Rice lady, who was on monkey-man's staff when he was president...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/
So true.
Major fail in the article, at the start of number 4:
"Now wait a minute," some of you are saying. "Even in a small town like yours, if DSL providers are dropping the ball, the free market should introduce alternatives to compete for all of that money generated by methamphetamine sales."
Yeah, except that internet access markets--at least in the USA are NOT a free market.  All thanks to local gov't providing your local ISP with monopoly status....THANKS GOVCO! *eyetwitch*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 12, 2012, 01:17:55 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 12, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/
So true.
Major fail in the article, at the start of number 4:
"Now wait a minute," some of you are saying. "Even in a small town like yours, if DSL providers are dropping the ball, the free market should introduce alternatives to compete for all of that money generated by methamphetamine sales."
Yeah, except that internet access markets--at least in the USA are NOT a free market.  All thanks to local gov't providing your local ISP with monopoly status....THANKS GOVCO! *eyetwitch*

Recently here in Canada we had some idiocy from the CRTC (our telecommunications incumbent protectionist agency) about internet access.  They decided that, toreduce regulatory interference and promote a 'free market' they were going to remove regulations on the monopoly wire line operators (who own the cable and phone lines into homes and businesses) that required selling access to third party service providers at a flat rate, and allow them to charge 85% of what they charge their direct customers for any given usage.  The governing party told them to go think about that again.  (The governing party is the one that's managed to drop a small but noticeable drop in the actual number of dollars spent on the Federal government here, and is currently fighting it's way through cutting a few more percent from the total budget.  That should allow us to keep our cost of government stable for a while.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2012, 01:41:19 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 11, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
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My pick for who Romney picks as VP.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 12, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 12, 2012, 01:41:19 PM
Image isn't showing up.

I see it fine.

It says, "'Small Government' Paul Ryan - Voted to make the Patriot Act PERMANENT, Voted AGAINST Medical Marijuana, voted for TARP and the GM and Chrysler BAILOUT."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2012, 02:37:30 PM
and for some reason I can see it fine now too.  Weird.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 12, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Here's a better one, IMO:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2012, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 12, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Here's a better one, IMO:

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Seconded.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 13, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 13, 2012, 02:37:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 13, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 14, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
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Me just unloading my mental junk drawer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 14, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 13, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
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which one is Gollum again? it's a tough call.

yeah, I don't know much about Lord of the rings (never saw the movies, or read the book). So the two might be a but hard to tell apart.

:P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 14, 2012, 11:21:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 15, 2012, 12:25:20 AM
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*Standing Ovation!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 15, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 15, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 15, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 15, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
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I wonder how that would have worked out in the Electoral College?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 16, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 15, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
I wonder how that would have worked out in the Electoral College?

Well, IIRC you said at the time the Libertarian votes in your state were more than the lead Obama ended up with.  Of course, I don't see anyone who'd vote Libertarian actually being willing to vote for McCain, either.  (Obama is trying to look good by pretending to be against war with Iran while McCain continues to beat the drums loudly.  Sadly, many people will have entirely forgotten that absurd terrorism plot Obama's minions cooked up to try and foment war with Iran.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 16, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: D on August 15, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
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Ah, you see, the argument is that the 2009 budget was really Bush's budget.  Doesn't quite work when you also want to claim things like Obama increasing the budget for NASA by a large amount, which requires that the 2009 budget be his.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2012, 09:57:29 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2012, 12:18:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 16, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 18, 2012, 08:49:51 AM
From the episode "Shoeless Al" from season 9 of Married with Children, Jefferson D'Arcy says a quick line that I just thought was worthy of a Fav quote.

Skip to 6:52
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"Believe me Al, malls across America set aside millions of dollars for just this type of frivolous lawsuit. It's the American way Al. And if these millions are not spent on lawsuits...they go to social security. Then nobody gets it." - Jefferson D'Arcy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 18, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: D on August 18, 2012, 08:49:51 AM"Believe me Al, malls across America set aside millions of dollars for just this type of frivolous lawsuit. It's the American way Al. And if these millions are not spent on lawsuits...they go to social security. Then nobody gets it." - Jefferson D'Arcy

The biggest win is the applause from the audience!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 18, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 18, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
The biggest win is the applause from the audience!

Indeed. Even back in 1995, people knew Social Security wasn't what it was cracked up to be.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 18, 2012, 10:45:47 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 18, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 19, 2012, 07:25:12 AM
It would be the sweetest irony if Romney sued Obama for copywrite on that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 19, 2012, 08:25:30 AM
Usually I'm not one to post something I've said, but this had a pretty good ring to it:

QuoteWhen statists tell us charity doesn't work, realize that what they're really saying is, "I'm lazy and it is easier for me if they just force you to do it."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 20, 2012, 02:32:04 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 21, 2012, 09:03:51 AM
She's a genius just for being able to compose this sentence:

"No, really, the Lockheed Martin/Goldman Sachs/Bain Capital-sponsored event in Tampa for goat fcking backwoods science hating morons trained by ex-trotskyites and bugged eyed nationalists isn't actually interested having free thinkers, anti-Establishment outlaw Protestants, vegetarians, queers, gender benders, geeks, gear heads, Luddites, dead enders, Keene krusty punks, straight edge, smack addled, raw milk drinkers, homesteaders, militia, urban bound Rothbardians*, radical feminists, polygamists, whores, Trad Catholics, cyborgs and a Palestinian showing to MAP** Mitt Romney's coronation.

"* That's a euphemism for Jews like me.

"‎**Mormon American Prince" --Angela Keaton
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 21, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 21, 2012, 09:03:51 AM
She's a genius just for being able to compose this sentence:

"No, really, the Lockheed Martin/Goldman Sachs/Bain Capital-sponsored event in Tampa for goat fcking backwoods science hating morons trained by ex-trotskyites and bugged eyed nationalists isn't actually interested having free thinkers, anti-Establishment outlaw Protestants, vegetarians, queers, gender benders, geeks, gear heads, Luddites, dead enders, Keene krusty punks, straight edge, smack addled, raw milk drinkers, homesteaders, militia, urban bound Rothbardians*, radical feminists, polygamists, whores, Trad Catholics, cyborgs and a Palestinian showing to MAP** Mitt Romney's coronation.

"* That's a euphemism for Jews like me.

"‎**Mormon American Prince" --Angela Keaton

double win to anyone here who fits into at least three of the categories.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 21, 2012, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 21, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
double win to anyone here who fits into at least three of the categories.
Well, I'm at least bi-sexual, so that's 1/2.  I'm a geek (1.5), I was a vegetarian for a while, and it was actually not too bad--kinda nice actually--,and I'm definitely a free thinker (2.5 to 3).
Go me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 21, 2012, 04:06:33 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 21, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
double win to anyone here who fits into at least three of the categories.

I fit three; four if you count someone with orthopedic implants as a "cyborg."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 21, 2012, 05:22:06 PM
Here's a good one from decades ago.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 21, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 22, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Was bored and decided to make this:
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For the record, that woman is apparently the President of the teacher's union in Chicago. Her name is Karen Lewis.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 25, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
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I have to agree with his assessment that government is in fact, robbing us all.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 26, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
"The Republican Party has been like Lucy with a football, and all these suckers every year are Charlie Brown." --Thomas E. Woods

From this video:

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The rest of his talk is win, too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 27, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
Speaking of Tom Woods:
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Tom Woods is the man.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 27, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 28, 2012, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 27, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
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Are the NYPD notably worse shots than other police departments in the US?  I know police are usually pretty lousy shots.  (Most of them only practice enough to pass mandatory qualification testing, partly because they have to pay for their own practice ammo in most forces, and partly because the kind of person you want to have become a cop does it because they want to help their community and the last option that kind of person wants to take is deadly force.)  The only people who are generally systematically worse shots than cops are criminals, who generally never practice at all and expect their guns to work on a more or less totemic basis.

As for the gun actually shown...Did anyone notice how we never question the presence of an ejection port on an energy weapon that doesn't have any brass to eject?  The Original Trilogy blasters are pretty much all just dressed up real guns (the pictured one is, IIRC, a dressed up Sten Gun).  The ones used for shooting in the US were generally replicas, but the ones used in the UK were real because the restrictions on completely non-functional replicas in the UK at the time were stronger than the ones on real guns.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 28, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
This would make an awesome graphic for one of Shane's recent videos.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418880_10151144466004872_339240686_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 28, 2012, 03:31:05 PM
Quoteand partly because the kind of person you want to have become a cop does it because they want to help their community and the last option that kind of person wants to take is deadly force.

The kind of person I want to become a cop doesn't pull the trigger unless they are aiming at someone who is an imminent danger to others. The NYPD acted like the asshole family from Spaceballs.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 28, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
If anyone tells you Romney and Obama aren't the same candidate, show them this and then tell them to shut their pie hole:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 29, 2012, 02:40:22 AM
"Liberty can be messy, Ahmet. But it is priceless."     Ezio Auditore da Firenze
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 29, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 29, 2012, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: D on August 29, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
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agreed on all five points.


in my case it's hard to get a job in geology without a degree: I'm currently looking for work in the field, having graduated in geology, and I can tell you that the least they ask is just that: a bachelor's in geology (I could go lower, and do: those still demand at least an associate's degree).

thankfully, jobs in that field are plentiful enough, and I have no trouble finding places to apply to that want new people (heck, at least I do have some experience). problem is, no one will hire me, even if the requirements are a perfect match for yours truly--which is funny, because they specifically stated they wanted fresh graduates with limited experience, and a bachelors (and checking, not many people are applying, and most don't have what I have). that, and they've shown to me that they will hire complete idiots: logically if they're willing to do that, they can hire a guy with a 3.6 GPA and a long history of getting things done--in geology and out.

so as an addendum to the two up there: some places will hire new people, only if such people are complete jackasses. srsly, it's like they're suicidal.

and don't get me started on minimum wage jobs: none want anything to do with me--at least every since the minimum wage rose (surprised?)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 30, 2012, 03:13:37 AM
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My favorite lyric is the female singers line "Sometimes I think Nobel Peace Prize winners shouldn't have a kill list."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 30, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 01, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
In response to Jack Hunter aka the Southern Avenger writing this. "My first Republican Convention reminded me far more of a WWE event than any rock concert I've ever been to. Am I right Norman Singleton?"

Someone named Jason Garner replied "is that because it was rigged and just a show?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 01, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on September 01, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
In response to Jack Hunter aka the Southern Avenger writing this. "My first Republican Convention reminded me far more of a WWE event than any rock concert I've ever been to. Am I right Norman Singleton?"

Someone named Jason Garner replied "is that because it was rigged and just a show?"

[wrestling fan rant]Ugh, I fucking hate the use of that term to describe pro wrestling. "Rigged" has such negative connotations about it and makes it sound like a malicious scam. Wrestling is staged, yes, but people KNOW it is staged and still go to watch it anyway because it is enjoyable. You never hear this kind of bullshit to describe movies or television shows. You know, for the most part, that the hero is going to win but nobody says "Oh this shit is so rigged."[/wrestling fan rant]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 01, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: D on September 01, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
[wrestling fan rant]Ugh, I fucking hate the use of that term to describe pro wrestling. "Rigged" has such negative connotations about it and makes it sound like a malicious scam. Wrestling is staged, yes, but people KNOW it is staged and still go to watch it anyway because it is enjoyable. You never hear this kind of bullshit to describe movies or television shows. You know, for the most part, that the hero is going to win but nobody says "Oh this shit is so rigged."[/wrestling fan rant]

The problem is some people think that pro wrestling should be to amateur wrestling like pro boxing (or almost any other pro martial art) is to amateur boxing (or almost any other amateur martial art).  So far as I know, there's never been a pro wrestling outfit anywhere in the world that worked that way.  I've seen real wrestling, and it's rather a dull sport, compared to pretty much all the other martial arts.  (For those who've never seen it, the objective is to pin your opponent's shoulders to the mat such that they are unable to free themselves.  That's it.  And the moves that are allowed are quite restricted in many ways.  All you're doing is trying to get your opponent tired enough that he can't free himself while not getting so tired yourself that you can't pin him down.  There's quite a bit of strategy involved, but there's not much of a show in it.)  Pro wrestling, everywhere that I've ever heard of, is all about the show, the characters, the good vs. evil drama (and Mexico has the US and Canada completely outclassed when it comes to the drama, in and out of the ring, they even had a guy who went for 10 years in total disguise, and in the end turned out to be a priest who was wrestling to raise money for charity, all in secret).

I had a grandfather who knew a wrestling promoter back before WWII, and the wrestlers back then came out to his farm and spent a whole week planning and practicing the match, so we can go back over 70 years and see that pro wrestling hasn't changed at the core, only in how the show gets done.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 02, 2012, 03:26:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 03, 2012, 06:31:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Virgil0211 on September 03, 2012, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: D on September 01, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
[wrestling fan rant]Ugh, I fucking hate the use of that term to describe pro wrestling. "Rigged" has such negative connotations about it and makes it sound like a malicious scam. Wrestling is staged, yes, but people KNOW it is staged and still go to watch it anyway because it is enjoyable. You never hear this kind of bullshit to describe movies or television shows. You know, for the most part, that the hero is going to win but nobody says "Oh this shit is so rigged."[/wrestling fan rant]

When they say it about a TV show, they say they found the drama unconvincing or the villain unthreatening. :-P

Suspension of disbelief is required for entertainment like that to work. For some people, wrestling does this fine or very well. For others, it doesn't. In the latter, it makes it difficult to enjoy.

Of course, some people take a snobbish attitude just to feel better about themselves, but that's different.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 03, 2012, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on September 03, 2012, 06:41:49 PM
When they say it about a TV show, they say they found the drama unconvincing or the villain unthreatening. :-P

Suspension of disbelief is required for entertainment like that to work. For some people, wrestling does this fine or very well. For others, it doesn't. In the latter, it makes it difficult to enjoy.

Of course, some people take a snobbish attitude just to feel better about themselves, but that's different.

It probably helps when you don't beat up people like John Stossel for saying it's faked.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 03, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 03, 2012, 06:50:30 PM
It probably helps when you don't beat up people like John Stossel for saying it's faked.

Its amazing how many people use that clip in comments sections instead of arguments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 03, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 05, 2012, 06:16:08 PM
See Hawkeye Rant

"I don't get this at all. If people think govco's SOOOOO great, why are their standards so low?

Could you imagine someone applying to be a CEO with "Well, I'm a rich elite who never did an honest day's work in my life. I have a credit rating so bad that I can't get a credit card. I've bankrupted at least two companies in the past. Oh and I honest to goodness believe that deficit spending is a sustainable financial plan. So do I get the job?"

For leader of a nation, the qualifications should be even higher. Nothing less than a flawless criminal record, solid first hand experience with economics and strict psychiatric evaluation at the very least.

And yet...you don't have to pass ANY ethics tests to run for public office, you can have no experience whatsoever with the private sector yet be trusted to centrally plan it. For crying out loud, you don't even have to pass a freaking BACKGROUND CHECK!! Seriously, there are a number of people in congress right now who have done jail time. Why does that not worry anybody?


Because it has nothing to do with the will of the people, never did. Everyone in public office got in due to having prior connections. It's nepotism, it's aristocracy and I wish people would stop dignifying it..."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 05, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 05, 2012, 06:16:08 PM
See Hawkeye Rant

"I don't get this at all. If people think govco's SOOOOO great, why are their standards so low?

Could you imagine someone applying to be a CEO with "Well, I'm a rich elite who never did an honest day's work in my life. I have a credit rating so bad that I can't get a credit card. I've bankrupted at least two companies in the past. Oh and I honest to goodness believe that deficit spending is a sustainable financial plan. So do I get the job?"

For leader of a nation, the qualifications should be even higher. Nothing less than a flawless criminal record, solid first hand experience with economics and strict psychiatric evaluation at the very least.

And yet...you don't have to pass ANY ethics tests to run for public office, you can have no experience whatsoever with the private sector yet be trusted to centrally plan it. For crying out loud, you don't even have to pass a freaking BACKGROUND CHECK!! Seriously, there are a number of people in congress right now who have done jail time. Why does that not worry anybody?


Because it has nothing to do with the will of the people, never did. Everyone in public office got in due to having prior connections. It's nepotism, it's aristocracy and I wish people would stop dignifying it..."

Particularly egregious case:  Marion Barry.

He was mayor of Washington, D.C. , when he was arrested and the n convicted for doing drugs with hookers.  When he got out, he ran for mayor again, and he won.  He's STILL on Washington City Council, and he's been called "Mayor For Life".  He's apparently a big deal inside the Democratic Party.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 06, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
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Someone fixed it for you Miss Warren
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 07, 2012, 01:07:53 AM
Ah Wraith, this is why I love ya!

    "I'm a midgetarian"
    "What's that?"
    "I'm for smaller government."
    "Oh, you mean a libertarian?"
    "No, when I say smaller, I don't mean fewer officials, I mean physically shorter ones.  It would be the first time our leaders looked up to us, and if they get corrupt, you just throw them out."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 07, 2012, 02:24:58 AM
found this comment just now on YT. pure win:

Quote from:  SchuboxProductions"Joe America: I am tired of getting fucked.

Democrats: we really want to keep fucking you. We promise to be gentle.
Republicans: we want to fuck you in a different position.
That is all I kept hearing at the RNC & DNC. Just remember no matter how they word it or spin it to your liking, you are still getting fucked by a donkey and an elephant."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 09, 2012, 02:15:21 AM
this poem, based and style on "ye madcaps of England" (you can find the original sung on Youtube):


[spoiler]
Quote"Ye students of highschool", a lampoon based on "Ye madcaps of England"

Ye students of high-school who merry would make
And for your grave future would pains undertake
Come over to Uni and there you shall see
How merry we'll make it how frolic will be

If you've been a student accepted by chance
And would by you courage and credit advance
Here's stuff to be won by a gamble in life
So leave at home your good sure old life

But if upon Wenches you've spent all your means
And still your mind runs upon whores and parties
Here's wenches enow that with you will go,
From headache to headache, though better you know

Your TA's and professors are very kind,
If that you can flatter and speak to their mind,
They will free you from homework and all other trouble
Your toadying done, your homework comes double

As soon as you've come to your Uni's land
Where lots of food and liquor you have at command
Sing eat them or drink them or let them alone
Sing go out and fetch them, your money will be gone

And when you break a bank, or a leg
You shall have to pass through the country to beg
Your admins promise you some sort of pay
But the student ne'er gets, no, not till Doom's day!

At last when you've come to your ceremony.
Where many a graved student and gentleman walked,
And when you have done the best that you can
Your department rewards you "there ruined a man!"
[/spoiler]

author's anonymous.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 09, 2012, 07:54:41 AM

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 09, 2012, 06:00:33 PM
I approve.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 09, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 09, 2012, 06:00:33 PM
I approve.

Of which?  You should quote so we know which one you're talking about.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 09, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on September 09, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Of which?  You should quote so we know which one you're talking about.

the poster Shane posted.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 10, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Seems Legit

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 11, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 09, 2012, 07:54:41 AM

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120909.gif) (http://"http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2729")

Ugh, don't remind me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 11, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
BEST THREE WORDS EVER!
I don't know.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 12, 2012, 10:03:23 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 12, 2012, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: D on September 12, 2012, 10:03:23 AM
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We're having quite a bit of strife with teachers here in Ontario, but there's some very strange things happening.

School boards aren't being allowed to attempt to negotiate contracts this time.  The province has, unilaterally, legislated a new contract (including wage rollbacks, reduction in sick days, changes in how sick days work, and other things) which, given that the province sets the rules for collective bargaining as well, amounts to them acting in bad faith (although they have no actual role in the negotiations in the first place, since teachers are employed by individual school boards, not directly by the province).

Naturally, the teachers unions are livid about this.  I'm surprised that the school boards aren't livid as well, given that negotiating the contracts is one of the relatively few things they actually get to do.  Take that away from them, and the province will cut their salaries again.  (It happened back in the 90's when school board members were officially made part-time positions only, with appropriately limited pay.  This was done as part of a package of removing duplicated functions from local boards and moving them to the provincial level, like developing curriculum standards and everything else not related to providing school buildings, equipment, and personnel.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 13, 2012, 01:15:07 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 14, 2012, 09:10:19 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/ibyv10.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 15, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on September 10, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Seems Legit

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564719_263268440442297_391139712_n.jpg)

afterall, having only a single hole (the cloaca) to piss, poo, and lay eggs from, also means that they can only have sex there...obvious collection of sodomites. seems legit to me too.  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on September 15, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on September 14, 2012, 09:10:19 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/ibyv10.jpg)

...yeah, that's pretty messed up on its own. I decided to do an image search, figuring that maybe Lawson doesn't look that much prettier without her makeup, or somesuch. That search inadvertently led me to this article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/feb/12/advertising.food), which tells me that much of McKeith's work probably belongs on the Fail Quotes topic.

Life sure is weird at times.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 18, 2012, 12:36:47 PM
"As someone who grew up during the Cold War, when the United States and the Soviet Union vied for the allegiance of so-called Third World nations, seeing mobs attack American businesses and sack American embassies is nothing new.

"It was the price the United States paid for supporting dictators and oligarchies who were supposedly "anti-communist," no matter how much they oppressed, starved, imprisoned or murdered their people. When you support the "lesser of two evils"—either in foreign policy or at the ballot box—all you get is evil."

—Brian Irving [link (http://libertypoint.org/?p=4182)]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 20, 2012, 07:13:06 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 20, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/73982_442044889171442_1371238059_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2012, 04:25:10 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/485697_433802046685873_1114590021_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 22, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 23, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
Unintentional Newspaper win.

(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2012/09/505b5e12c259e.jpeg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 24, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 25, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: D on September 22, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
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I agree absolutely with his point about the rioters, but I have to add this to the list of Favorite quotes:

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because let's face it, but that is more likely to be the reason....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 28, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
Putting in spoilers due to size:
[spoiler](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/523839_10151227225290726_1838328991_n.jpg)[/spoiler]

As a Pokemon fan and as a Tom Woods fan...

THIS

IS

AWESOME!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 28, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: D on September 28, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
Putting in spoilers due to size:
[spoiler](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/523839_10151227225290726_1838328991_n.jpg)[/spoiler]

As a Pokemon fan and as a Tom Woods fan...

THIS

IS

AWESOME!

If only someone would make an animated short out of this.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 29, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 29, 2012, 07:05:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 30, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
never knew mass effect 2 can be used for biting political commentary, but this took the cake:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 01, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
[yt]S3meCzBQqYQ&feature=plcp[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 01, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 01, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on October 01, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
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A classic!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 03, 2012, 04:22:07 AM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/228902_441156229253583_1840241917_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 03, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
Another excellent video by LearnLiberty:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 04, 2012, 01:01:24 AM
this sums up my opinion of this day's "debate", and it's participants. just replace "All humans", with "All politicians":

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 04, 2012, 02:04:20 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/580233_360155864069053_498165777_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 04, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
"There's something very hilariously tragic in how feminism claims to free women by demanding they all think alike." - Me, talking about how feminism is really just socialism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 04, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 05, 2012, 12:27:02 AM
a friend of mine on facebook posted this as his commentary on the late debate:

Quote"My candidate was amazing in the debates. He never stretched the truth; humbly conceded when he made a misstatement; honestly acknowledged the shortcomings and open questions of his plans; did not rely on vague appeals to rhetorical buzzwords, dubious extrapolations, or tautology; and showed genuine, empathetic respect for those who disagree with him"

said no objective person, ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 07, 2012, 10:52:01 AM
"If you can justify this as good, is there anything left to call 'evil'?" —Thunderf00t

Yes, Thunderf00t's back on his game:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 07, 2012, 05:37:14 PM
This guy is awesome!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 09, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
Thunderf00t's not the only one back in their game:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/ndaa-biggest-election-issue-no-ones-talking-about/

I felt chills up my spine to see that cracked.com of all people are talking about this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 09, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Tom Woods (http://www.libertyclassroom.com/huffpos-11-myths-about-the-fed-refuted/) gives Huffington Post a well deserved verbal five across the eyes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 12, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
For those of us who remember Chris Farley.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539387_350504155035452_1590368944_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 12, 2012, 08:04:13 PM
LTH does it again with this video:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 13, 2012, 01:33:43 AM
I don't like that this guy is a Romney supporter, but this is an interesting look at abortion I never thought of.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 13, 2012, 08:32:12 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/185160_362733900481340_707008874_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 13, 2012, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 13, 2012, 01:33:43 AM
I don't like that this guy is a Romney supporter, but this is an interesting look at abortion I never thought of.

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The problem with this video is he looks at it completely wrong. The fact is, what is under a woman's skin is her property. If she chooses to have the child, wonderful, but she should not be forced to carry the child if she does not want to. If she is forced to maintain the child against her will, then the child is nothing more than a parasitic invader. Is it the fetus' fault? No. Is it fair? Well, you can definitely make an argument that it isn't, but it doesn't matter. The fact is, however, that the mother has to have ALL of the say because of the simple fact that it is her body. This is why couples shouldn't just jump into bed together arbitrarily without either discussing the potential repercussions beforehand or simply carry some form of protection (condom, taking birth control, etc.) Do I feel bad for this guy? Of course, I do. He was looking forward to being a father. If he really wanted to be a father, then he should have had a discussion with the woman he had sex with before having sex with her to make his intentions very clear and if she agreed to it, wonderful, and if not, well then maybe they need to meet other people. Now of course we both know that accidents happen and sometimes people are just lost within their passion, but either way, it doesn't change the fact what is under her skin is her property.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 14, 2012, 11:51:07 PM
A Roman soldier named Mascius in the HBO series Rome being told he shouldn't save a friend because of how it would effect Julius Caesar.

Vorenus "You're not thinking politically".

Mascius "I fuck politically in her fat ass."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 16, 2012, 11:26:52 AM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/535741_440995265937980_588816377_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 16, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
 "Lady just asked Mitt Romney: "What's the difference between you and George W. Bush?" Great question. Now ask Obama!"

Julie Borowski
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 17, 2012, 01:44:19 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on October 16, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
"Lady just asked Mitt Romney: "What's the difference between you and George W. Bush?" Great question. Now ask Obama!"

Julie Borowski

if you can, send her my warm regards. If she's at a managerial position at a geology company, tell me, and I'll send my resume.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 17, 2012, 07:28:45 AM
It said that its true. Imagine if we had a drinking game where you took a shot every time the NDAA wasn't mentioned?

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/285019_536783336348038_282651255_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 17, 2012, 10:28:38 PM
Hawkeye does it again.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 18, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
[yt]9UrOmhH2PeI&feature=g-user-c[/yt]

Favorite for the concept, everyone who commented in the interviews failed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 19, 2012, 08:31:45 AM
This is surprisingly well done, considering the short time available for it and the target audience.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 19, 2012, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on October 19, 2012, 08:31:45 AM
This is surprisingly well done, considering the short time available for it and the target audience.

[yt]0efqnvYz4YI[/yt]

OMNOMNOMNOM.

couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 22, 2012, 04:23:18 PM
[yt]gC4jQsmydIQ&list=UUM1VVwFyRtb_tob5uPz6DeQ&index=1&feature=plcp[/yt]

While I may not believing voting is legitimate, the current one does present a nice way to test people if nothing else.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 22, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
Needed to be said: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/oct/22/libertarians-are-not-corporate-apologists/

"Most people would probably be surprised at the libertarian stand on corporations. In a libertarian society, they wouldn't exist. Corporations are creatures of the state. They are created by the government and endowed with privileges that individuals do not have. This contradicts a fundamental premise of libertarianism, that all people are created equal and have equal rights."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on October 22, 2012, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 22, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
Needed to be said: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/oct/22/libertarians-are-not-corporate-apologists/

The issue over corporations is something (among many other things) I had a hard time understanding; this article really clarifies the issue for me. Thanks much for the link, Shane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 23, 2012, 03:45:53 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/526027_10152229109305515_1092781836_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 23, 2012, 06:25:04 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/602344_381138321960659_434222603_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 23, 2012, 07:01:57 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on October 23, 2012, 06:25:04 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/602344_381138321960659_434222603_n.jpg)

Does that blunderbuss have a bayonet on it? I don't think that would work.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 23, 2012, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 23, 2012, 07:01:57 PM
Does that blunderbuss have a bayonet on it? I don't think that would work.

Just us solid shot.  It should work fine.  (Mounting the bayonet is another problem entirely.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 23, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on October 23, 2012, 10:55:19 PM
Just us solid shot.  It should work fine.  (Mounting the bayonet is another problem entirely.)

Solid shot would kinda negate the purpose of a blunderbuss. Plus the barrel is too wide, even behind the muzzle, for that to work.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 24, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
Unbelievable. We have an enormous Muppet riding a horse in the 18th Century and you guys are saying the GUN is unrealistic... :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on October 24, 2012, 11:34:35 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 24, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
Unbelievable. We have an enormous Muppet riding a horse in the 18th Century and you guys are saying the GUN is unrealistic... :P

Why should we point out something that's obvious?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 26, 2012, 01:59:57 PM
"It appears as if roughly half the people in this country think that they're in mortal danger from their own government. That's a lot of people sensing a lot of malice and threat. I worry that I don't see it. Sure, I see inefficiency and incompetence, but I've always seen that - regardless of which party's in office. And frankly, I've always welcomed it. I don't like my big bureaucracies to be cold, calculating, profit-making enterprises driven by a steely, clear-headed singular vision. A cursory glance through history would indicate that well-organized governments tend to enjoy well-organized parades, followed by well-organized ethnic cleansing. Which is why I celebrate the magnificent, muddle-headed ineptitude of our democracy. As far as I'm concerned, a little confusion and waste may keep the trains from running on time, but it also keeps people like me from getting a one-way ticket in a cattle car. Are our tax dollars being misspent on poorly run social programs? You bet! Do we get more buck for our bang at the local Post Office, Amtrak station, nuclear submarine or methadone clinic? Of course we do! But keep in mind that bureaucrats who can't find their ass with a flashlight and a hand mirror are not likely to find you either. To paraphrase Bobby McGee: 'Freedom's just another word for who the hell's in charge here?!'" —Chuck Lorre (last nights Big Bang Theory vanity card)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 26, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/404691_505713962772920_759433902_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 27, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 27, 2012, 04:21:03 PM
As overdone as the Guy Fawkes stuff is.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/47394_192889880836055_317423458_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 27, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
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"There's nothing noble about wanting to be free YOURSELF. There's nothing noble about not wanting YOU to be stomped on and oppressed and robbed if you're not against oppression in general. And if you vote Republican or you vote Democrat, you're not against oppression in general, you just want the giant machine called 'Government' on YOUR side, forcing other people to pay for what YOU want, forcing other people to make the choices YOU want them to make! So don't pretend to be principled unless you're ready to let EVERYONE be free." - Larken Rose
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 29, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/z89BD.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 29, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
For anyone sick of the World War 2 brought us out of the depression nonsense.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 29, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
man, this Kevin T Thomas guy is a genius; check this out--IMO this is the best comment he made:

"They're trying to play God--no, Actually, they're trying to play greater than God, Because at  least God gave you the fucking choice!"

it's from this video (which is just made of win):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 30, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
"They bet that they could pursue a host of policies fundamentally odious to their core supporters and yet be reelected.  The calculation depended on the premise that rank-and-file Democrats would have no other option.  Unsurprisingly, the Obama Administration and its surrogates have invested considerable time and energy convincing its former supporters that there is no option."

Robert E Krusch from this article. http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-progressive-retreat-from-obama-who-is-to-blame/ (http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-progressive-retreat-from-obama-who-is-to-blame/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 31, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
This was a "Pearls Before Swine" comic in the paper today that I actually had to snip out and keep because it was so perfect.

    Rat: Why do we allow people to bribe congressmen?
    Goat: We don't.  It's illegal.
    Rat: What are you talking about?  Rich corporations are always giving these idiots money to vote a certain way.
    Goat: Yeah but those aren't bribes.  They're campaign contributions.
    Rat: For the smart guy in the strip, you're pretty moronic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 01, 2012, 06:20:48 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/536_243605742434490_989891271_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 01, 2012, 06:29:15 PM
I definitely sympathize.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 01, 2012, 06:57:12 PM
Complete win from johnrainrules on YouTube, in response to kdskdkdkdk:

Question-please expand on "labor saving devices usually create more jobs". Didn't seem to help expand the farm labor pool.

And the winning reply:

Nope, just as farming didn't expand the hunter gatherer labor pool.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 02, 2012, 02:07:36 AM
 (http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/425860_488267371205555_1064923859_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2012, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 01, 2012, 06:57:12 PM
Complete win from johnrainrules on YouTube, in response to kdskdkdkdk:

Question-please expand on "labor saving devices usually create more jobs". Didn't seem to help expand the farm labor pool.

And the winning reply:

Nope, just as farming didn't expand the hunter gatherer labor pool.

ZING!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 02, 2012, 07:42:19 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/373993_371228369628469_641240802_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 03, 2012, 03:53:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DsqTx.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 04, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
"In truth, in the case of individuals, their actual voting is not to be taken as proof of consent, even for the time being. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having ever been asked, a man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forgo the exercise of many of his natural rights, under peril of weighty punishments. He sees, too, that other men practice this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, he finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use it, he must become a slave. And he has no other alternative than these two. In self-defense, he attempts the former. His case is analogous to that of a man who has been forced into battle, where he must either kill others, or be killed himself. Because, to save his own life in battle, a man attempts to take the lives of his opponents, it is not to be inferred that the battle is one of his own choosing. Neither in contests with the ballot -- which is a mere substitute for a bullet -- because, as his only chance of self-preservation, a man uses a ballot, is it to be inferred that the contest is one into which he voluntarily entered; that he voluntarily set up all his own natural rights, as a stake against those of others, to be lost or won by the mere power of numbers. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, in an exigency, into which he had been forced by others, and in which no other means of self-defense offered, he, as a matter of necessity, used the only one that was left to him." - Lysander Spooner
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 04, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599156_488486771181859_250243863_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 05, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/18415_454394687929737_374721078_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 06, 2012, 07:25:48 AM
Putting all of the "isolated" incidents in perspective.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/60307_444468752254892_1787898877_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 07, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
Sadly one of them was going to win, but after all the B.S. from the Republicans this time they definitely earned this.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/396673_4116480228060_2022409397_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2012, 09:02:53 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on November 07, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
Sadly one of them was going to win, but after all the B.S. from the Republicans this time they definitely earned this.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/396673_4116480228060_2022409397_n.jpg)

I swear, I just noticed that Obama won the election (after a quick Google search).  That would explain that image in Fail Quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 07, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
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A little background on the joke for non-wrestling fans.

The briefcase that is being handed to the referee contains a contract that allows the person who won the briefcase a title shot whenever he wants. The Money in the Bank briefcase is commonly cashed in after a champion just won a grueling match.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 07, 2012, 03:49:01 PM
not everyday I quote myself, but here's what I said about choosing Obama or Romney:

"America: Choose your position!"

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 10, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 10, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on November 10, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
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I'm sure the reply from most would be along the lines of the following:

"what the devil you doing here? get the hell back in the kitchen, wear some real clothes, and stop causing trouble!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on November 12, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
This made my day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166557/Half-GERMAN-schoolchildren-know-Third-Reich-dictatorship--East-Germany-Communist.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

QuoteHalf of German schoolchildren do not know that the Third Reich was a dictatorship, a survey has found.
More than 50 per cent of the teenagers polled were also unaware that the East German state was also a tyrannical regime run by communists.
Despite being obliged to visit a concentration camp at least once in their schooldays and learning about Hitler's seizure of power, German students showed a lack of knowledge about their roots.
The widespread ignorance is detailed in a study called, 'Late Victory of the Dictatorships?' after a recent survey conducted by researchers at the Free University in Berlin.
'This is shocking,' said study author Klaus Schroeder.
More than 7,500 school pupils aged around 15 were asked how they viewed the various governments that have ruled Germany.
Only around half were definite that the Nazi government was a dictatorship - despite the country at the time being ruled ruthlessly by one party from 1933 to 1945.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 12, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: VectorM on November 12, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
This made my day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166557/Half-GERMAN-schoolchildren-know-Third-Reich-dictatorship--East-Germany-Communist.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

And this in a country that was so paranoid about another dictatorship arising that in it's Constitution they put a declaration that every citizen had a duty to prevent another dictatorship from arising by any means necessary.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 12, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 12, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Not the biggest S.E. Cupp fan, but damn did she kick ass here.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 12, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on November 12, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Not the biggest S.E. Cupp fan, but damn did she kick ass here.

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God damn do I love it when Obamatons are reduced to nothing more than screaming lunatics who need to grasp at straws to defend their messiah.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 12, 2012, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: D on November 12, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
God damn do I love it when Obamatons are reduced to nothing more than screaming lunatics who need to grasp at straws to defend their messiah.

It's Cognitive Dissonance in action.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 12, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 12, 2012, 07:07:03 PM
It's Cognitive Dissonance in action.

It is. It's music to my ears.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 12, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: D on November 12, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
God damn do I love it when Obamatons are reduced to nothing more than screaming lunatics who need to grasp at straws to defend their messiah.

I was unimpressed. It did not lead to a fistfight!  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2012, 09:46:58 PM
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Skip to about 5:20 to get to the actual content.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 15, 2012, 02:56:33 PM
The conversation at the beginning is why I love Red Dead Redemption.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 15, 2012, 06:00:55 PM
Ron Paul gives the reason I support the Libertarian Party as opposed to try to change the Republican one.

"Under the current circumstances the most we can hope to achieve in the political process is to use it as a podium to reach the people to alert them of the nature of the crisis and the importance of their need to assume responsibility for themselves, if it is liberty that they truly seek.  Without this, a constitutionally protected free society is impossible."

From his farewell speech.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
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Made.  Of.  Win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 16, 2012, 10:33:41 PM
    When valor fights reason, it eats the sword it wields - Shakespeare
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 16, 2012, 11:17:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 17, 2012, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on November 16, 2012, 11:17:16 PM
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well, the twinkies weren't what they used to be anyways: it's no big loss.

Though yeah, Labor unions still suck.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 17, 2012, 11:04:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 20, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on November 17, 2012, 11:04:20 PM
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Totally made my day.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 21, 2012, 07:02:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 21, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 21, 2012, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on November 21, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
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you ever get the feeling that Obama is tr0llzor himself? Only way less entertaining and way more hypocritical.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 23, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
nothing like making fun of both parties in one video....

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on November 23, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 23, 2012, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on November 23, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
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Not really, because Santa doesn't take people's savings from them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 24, 2012, 01:58:56 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on November 23, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
nothing like making fun of both parties in one video....

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Ya, Kevintthoms is awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 29, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 29, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: D on November 29, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
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They're just mad because InTrade is more accurate than their bogus polls.

Sign the petition, everyone: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-us-commodity-futures-trading-commission-cftc-drop-charges-against-intradecom/HYgT5yF2
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
I liked this:  http://www.cracked.com/article_20118_5-things-nobody-tells-you-about-living-in-japan.html

And this:  http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-why-fair-trade-coffee-scam/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 01, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 01, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on December 01, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
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this is fucking creepy....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 02, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 02, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
Quote from: D on December 02, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
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I loved his point about the Civil War. I've been saying that for years!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 02, 2012, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 02, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
I loved his point about the Civil War. I've been saying that for years!

And the really stupid part is that the question of the legality of Succession was indeed resolved before the US Civil War...with it being entirely legal and there being no legal mechanism for the Federal Government to block it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 02, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 02, 2012, 11:03:40 AM
And the really stupid part is that the question of the legality of Succession was indeed resolved before the US Civil War...with it being entirely legal and there being no legal mechanism for the Federal Government to block it.

Emphasized by the numerous secession debates that happened before then--New England after Jefferson was elected, the 1840s with the Tariffs of Abomination, and the anti-slavery secession movement of the north in the 1850s. Through it all, there were all sorts of people saying that we shouldn't secede, it's not a good idea, there are other options, etc., but I can't find ONE instance of ANYONE saying that states don't have the right to secede.

And then there's this from an 1848 address to Congress by Abraham Lincoln himself: "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, most sacred right—a right which, we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement. Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 03, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 04, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
Bad audio aside, Schiff is on the money here (no pun intended.)

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 04, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 05, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
Lots of people I want to show this to (starting at 7:17):

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"It doesn't surprise me that somebody who is so muddled in their thinking, and is so afraid of the irrational, would give magic powers to words. Guess what? It's four letters, it's phonemes, they don't have any magical powers, it's a way of expressing an exclamation mark. You called, and then when things got to heated, you tried to do this, 'Well, it's all up to you guys, and if you reject him, that's your responsibility," etc., which is your way of giving up. All you wanted to do was call in, state your opinion, and move on. So when I asked, 'Why the fuck did you call?" I wasn't cursing you out. I was exclaiming that this is absurd for you to call in and do this—to call in and pretend like you're going to defend your beliefs, and then when they're challenged directly to a point that you can't defend them, you cry that your feelings got hurt because somebody used a word that was scary. It's no wonder that you are still stuck in this mindset of being afraid of fantasy if one little word sends you screaming off, "Ooh, the poor atheists, they're beating up on me and they're saying offensive things!" —Matt Dillahunty

"Swear" or "curse" words are just words, not magical incantations. I see statists resort to that same tactic every time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 05, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
[quote

"Swear" or "curse" words are just words, not magical incantations. I see statists resort to that same tactic every time.
[/quote]

Maybe they watched the curse words episode of South Park.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 05, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
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This was just too awesome to not post.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 06, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 05, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
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This was just too awesome to not post.

God bless the spam! :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 06, 2012, 06:13:39 PM
It's one more terrorist than the TSA has foiled.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 06, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
One more reason why House was awesome. [yt]L0yXn9XA-5c[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 08, 2012, 12:31:55 PM
Seen in a lower-third on the 12/6/2012 edition of Stossel:

THIS IS A TEST. THIS IS ONLY A TEST. IF THIS HAD BEEN AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY, GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE MESSED IT UP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 09, 2012, 12:37:56 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 09, 2012, 03:01:42 PM
"Democracy? I want nothing to do with a system that operates on the premise that my rights don't exist simply because I am outnumbered." —R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 12, 2012, 08:08:49 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 12, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 13, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
QuoteI had a few jobs where after I went out of my way to show up, they actuality wanted me to work.
The nerve of some employers.


Ironically from the same individual from which I have attained most of  my Failquotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 13, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 13, 2012, 08:14:00 PM
Suck it, Natural News.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 14, 2012, 03:02:44 AM
well, I'm no fan of Star Wars, but this analogy is IMO didactic in nature.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 14, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 14, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
it's in Arabic (from Syria), but I suspect it'll be loved here:

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translation:

[spoiler]"On This page at Twitter: Only In oppressive regimes do the protesters commit mass suicide"

"Only in Oppressive regimes are all speeches "Historic speeches"

"Only in Oppressive regimes does the closet/storage locker have uses that don't exist in other countries"

"Only in Oppressive regimes are half the people in Jail"

"Only in Oppressive regimes do television series complain about the conditions in the country, and then when there's a revolution, the actors go on television and say all is well"

"Only in Oppressive regimes does our neighbor leave for school in the morning, and return after 11 years"

"Only in Oppressive regimes does a child enter jail before he enters school"

"Only in Oppressive regimes do major CEO's commit suicide with six bullets to the head"

"Only in Oppressive regimes does one spend their military service in the service of the Officer's wife"

"Only in Oppressive regimes does a citizen aspire to be human"

"Only in Oppressive regimes is a Christian jailed for 12 years for belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood"[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 14, 2012, 10:21:13 PM
The fact that I'm getting more Fav quotes then fail quotes recently makes me kind of optimistic.


In response to the following topic

22 Kids, 1 Adult Hurt in China School Knife Attack


The poster of the topic had this to say.

QuoteWe need better knife control laws.


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 15, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
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He does forget about the Fort Hood shooting that happened a couple years ago, but the point still stands.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 15, 2012, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: D on December 15, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
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He does forget about the Fort Hood shooting that happened a couple years ago, but the point still stands.

Even the Ford Hood shooting spree supports his point.  It occurred in a base hospital, where regulations forbade most people from being armed.  It certainly looks like the guy must have chosen it for that specific reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 16, 2012, 02:32:38 AM
QuotePORTLAND -- Nick Meli is emotionally drained.  The 22-year-old was at Clackamas Town Center with a friend and her baby when a masked man opened fire.
"I heard three shots and turned and looked at Casey and said, 'are you serious?,'" he said.
The friend and baby hit the floor.  Meli, who has a concealed carry permit, positioned himself behind a pillar.
"He was working on his rifle," said Meli.  "He kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side."
The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter.
"As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.
Meli took cover inside a nearby store.  He never pulled the trigger.  He stands by that decision.
"I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him," said Meli.  "I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself."
The gunman was dead, but not before taking two innocent lives with him and taking the innocence of everyone else.
"I don't ever want to see anyone that way ever," said Meli.  "It just bothers me."
http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html

I doubt this will see the MSM.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 16, 2012, 06:01:28 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 16, 2012, 02:32:38 AM
I doubt this will see the MSM.

What proportion of cops do you suppose would have been deterred from firing by not having a clean shot?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 16, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 16, 2012, 06:01:28 AM
What proportion of cops do you suppose would have been deterred from firing by not having a clean shot?

They probably would have fired full clips at the guy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 16, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 17, 2012, 01:06:28 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

Each one of these hurt like a kick to the dick.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 17, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
I still don't care for his "insights" on relationships.  Ladies, you want equality?  Then the male breadwinner gravy train is over.  Deal with it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 17, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
I still don't care for his "insights" on relationships.  Ladies, you want equality?  Then the male breadwinner gravy train is over.  Deal with it.

Plus, men aren't left to die in hostage situations.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 18, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
Skip to 7:07, that's where he talks about the shooting and how the media handled it.

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"What really pisses me off is the way the press handles it and the way cameras handle it. You see I have a choice right now sitting in front of this thing and talking to you about whatever, as you have a choice of watching me. But what bites my ass, what makes me sick, really sick inside, is the bastards, the sorry SOBs that took all the camera shots, film of these people's pain. Little kids screaming, crying. You took 'em. You know, what is your problem? Do you not have any sense of feeling? I mean that'd be like, okay, here's one for you, 'How about we set up a camera while your wife's being raped and you have to watch that, and we'll film it for ya, and we'll show it.' You know, those are horrible moments in a child's life or a human being's life. And they're going to be going through this stuff and the mayhem that's in their mind, the twists and the pain and all of a sudden they're gonna turn and see a friggin' camera shooting at them! *sticks up middle finger* That's what I think of you."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 18, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
Jake "The Snake" Roberts?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 18, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: VectorM on December 18, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
Jake "The Snake" Roberts?

Former pro wrestler.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 20, 2012, 10:30:14 PM
A conversation with another Canadian friend of mine


Friend" I hate doctors
Me: Why's that?
Friend: They're slow and wrong 65% of the time
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 21, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
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Penn is the only sane adult in the room.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 21, 2012, 09:49:06 PM
God, that one woman is the embodiment of evil. Autistics don't have empathy? They don't feel guilt? They don't have a conscience? Whatever lame-ass show that is, they need to do a better job of picking their hosts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 21, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 21, 2012, 09:49:06 PM
God, that one woman is the embodiment of evil. Autistics don't have empathy? They don't feel guilt? They don't have a conscience? Whatever lame-ass show that is, they need to do a better job of picking their hosts.

And sadly this kind of mindless thought is becoming the norm. Ever since that stupid "Anarchist Soccer Mom" (http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html) nonsense where she says, " I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me," people have been looking at autistic, and mostly those with asperger's syndrome as if they were monsters. Quite frankly, it is absolutely abhorrent.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 21, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
God I love Penn. It's amazing how he manages to stay calm, rational, and polite through the whole thing while everybody else is shouting at eachother.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 21, 2012, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: D on December 21, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
And sadly this kind of mindless thought is becoming the norm. Ever since that stupid "Anarchist Soccer Mom" (http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html) nonsense where she says, " I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me," people have been looking at autistic, and mostly those with asperger's syndrome as if they were monsters. Quite frankly, it is absolutely abhorrent.

Even ADHD is catching shit these days.
Some people hear I have it and act like I'm disabled.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 21, 2012, 10:44:02 PM
people want an easy out. They want something to blame that's easy to use force to "fix". TO justify using the hammer of government against others.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on December 22, 2012, 04:55:28 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 21, 2012, 09:49:06 PM
God, that one woman is the embodiment of evil. Autistics don't have empathy? They don't feel guilt? They don't have a conscience? Whatever lame-ass show that is, they need to do a better job of picking their hosts.

As I feared, all of this shit that always gets blamed on mentally illness/condition/whaterverthefuck is now making people fear groups of people that are, if not harmless, no more dangerous than any other "sane" person.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 22, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
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Stef brings his expertise to the fold.

Interesting stat for those self righteous Brits.  Britain had a lower murder rate than the US BEFORE they banned guns.  They really seem to have a problem of comparing their attributes to the US rather than comparing it to their own past.  Most can't seem to even conceive that there was a time when they didn't have socialized healthcare.

Or how 9% of home invasions in the US occur while the person is home compared to a whopping 43% of home invasions in Britain.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 27, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on December 27, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 30, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on May 11, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
D'awww. And here I was, hoping that some of my more scathing commentary would get chosen.

I just realized, I think I'm starting to sound like that food critic from Frasier.

And here's a quote from Star Trek Deep Space 9.

JAKE: Come on, Nog.
NOG: No.
JAKE: Why not?
NOG: It's my money, Jake. If you want to bid at the auction, use your own money.
JAKE: I'm human, I don't have any money.
NOG: It's not my fault that your species decided to abandon currency-based economics in favour of some philosophy of self-enhancement.
JAKE: Hey, watch it. There's nothing wrong with our philosophy. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.
NOG: What does that mean exactly?
JAKE: It means. It means we don't need money.
NOG: Well if you don't need money, then you certainly don't need mine.

I just saw this ep on Netflix (I've been rewatching the whole series) and it actually has a very good free market statement.

Jake wants to get a Willie Mays baseball card for his father (which is what he was wanting the money for; it was being auctioned at Quark's). They lose the bid, but make a deal with the winner of the bid to exchange the card for some scientific supplies. But since Jake wants it to be a surprise, he doesn't want to tell anyone what he needs them for, so Nog uses "incentive-based economics" (okay, ALL economics is incentive based, but we'll let that go).

They get one item from O'Brien in exchange for doing his work so he can go kayaking in the holosuite. They help Julian get his childhood teddy bear back from his ex-girlfriend. And so on. At the end of the episode, Captain Sisko remarks that, despite the perilous situation with The Dominion sill ongoing, people on the station seem to be happier, more relaxed, more at ease. During his speech, we have shots of Julian with his bear on his shelf, O'Brien coming out of the holosuite in kayaking gear, etc. Sisko may not know how everybody's lives has become so suddenly improved, but we do!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 31, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
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It's an old video from Larken and Tessa Rose but it still resonates. Just the pwoer of how Tessa presents anarchism feels right.


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This is old but it still resonates. Even after converting from minarchism to anarchism. THe difference between duress and consent is something that more people need to understand.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 02, 2013, 04:11:41 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 30, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
I just saw this ep on Netflix (I've been rewatching the whole series) and it actually has a very good free market statement.

Jake wants to get a Willie Mays baseball card for his father (which is what he was wanting the money for; it was being auctioned at Quark's). They lose the bid, but make a deal with the winner of the bid to exchange the card for some scientific supplies. But since Jake wants it to be a surprise, he doesn't want to tell anyone what he needs them for, so Nog uses "incentive-based economics" (okay, ALL economics is incentive based, but we'll let that go).

They get one item from O'Brien in exchange for doing his work so he can go kayaking in the holosuite. They help Julian get his childhood teddy bear back from his ex-girlfriend. And so on. At the end of the episode, Captain Sisko remarks that, despite the perilous situation with The Dominion sill ongoing, people on the station seem to be happier, more relaxed, more at ease. During his speech, we have shots of Julian with his bear on his shelf, O'Brien coming out of the holosuite in kayaking gear, etc. Sisko may not know how everybody's lives has become so suddenly improved, but we do!

Then again, that episode makes you question a lot of other stuff: how the hell do they pay at the bar, if they have no money? How does the Federation trade with anyone, if they have no money? I mean, we knew about this stuff before, but that episode really brought that issue to light.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 02, 2013, 07:54:41 AM
Quote from: VectorM on January 02, 2013, 04:11:41 AMThen again, that episode makes you question a lot of other stuff: how the hell do they pay at bar, if they have no money?

We see the main characters use latinum at the bar. Where they get it from is anyone's guess.

QuoteHow deos the Federatino trade with anyone, if they have no money? I mean, we knew about this stuff before, but that episode really brought that issue to light.

There was one issue where Sisko billed Quark for some damage one of his deals caused to the station. Of course, they said nothing about how it was to be paid, who gets the money, or even why Quark should have to pay when they never charge anyone else.

It's hard to blame the DS9 writers, though. It was their predecessors who set up this moneyless society to begin with, so they had to work within the confines of the universe.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 02, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
On that subject, the review of the episode: http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/ds9-in-the-cards-review-5603035
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 02, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: VectorM on January 02, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
On that subject, the review of the episode: http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/ds9-in-the-cards-review-5603035

One of the commenters posted a quote from Ron Moore that, if genuine, confirms my suspicion: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene [Roddenberry] had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 02, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
I was reading the Star Trek Wiki entry on money and found this gem from Picard in First Contact: "The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity." Um, just what does he think "the acquisition of wealth" MEANS? Wealth means bettering yourself and others. By definition, they're the same thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 02, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 02, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
One of the commenters posted a quote from Ron Moore that, if genuine, confirms my suspicion: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene [Roddenberry] had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."

so how do they accommodate for a lack of infinite resources? if there is no means of exchange, and (AFAIK), no evidence of barter, of rationing, or any other institution or device, surely that must be an issue? I never once saw that actually addressed in Star Trek.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 02, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
He's a little late to the party, but he still makes good points.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 02, 2013, 10:03:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 02, 2013, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 02, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
I was reading the Star Trek Wiki entry on money and found this gem from Picard in First Contact: "The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity." Um, just what does he think "the acquisition of wealth" MEANS? Wealth means bettering yourself and others. By definition, they're the same thing.

He's partially quoting a statement he made in the last episode of Season 1, as well.  Roddenberry was a bit of an idiot about a lot of things.  You can't not have some kind of rationing system, since desires are infinite and resources are finite, and price-wage-money systems have the advantage that people can prioritize on their own what they want to allocate their finite resources towards.

He made the same sort of error when he declared "Starfleet is NOT military!"  Starfleet goes and does the fighting when the Federation has fighting to do, which pretty much makes them the Federation's military by definition.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 03, 2013, 12:20:48 AM
yeah, this guy is a Christian apologist, but I have to give credit where it's due:

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(it has some fail in the last 20 minutes, but overall, it's a complete massacre of the target).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 03, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
NGC: Medieval Fight Book
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh5aey_ngc-medieval-fight-book-part-1-3_shortfilms#.UOWvIeTomuo

A good documentary that stops a lot of misconceptions about the middle ages.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 03, 2013, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on January 03, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
NGC: Medieval Fight Book
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh5aey_ngc-medieval-fight-book-part-1-3_shortfilms#.UOWvIeTomuo

A good documentary that stops a lot of misconceptions about the middle ages.

And the Royal Library didn't allow the book to be filmed until this documentary, because?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 03, 2013, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: VectorM on January 03, 2013, 03:11:22 PM
And the Royal Library didn't allow the book to be filmed until this documentary, because?

Governments are stupid.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 06, 2013, 03:36:25 AM
I try to be as patient as possible in most respects but damn, if I catch you seriously trying to defend social security on the sole basis of "it's the government, they can totally be trusted", you get no mercy from me.

"Ah yes, the "public sphere", a magical place where all the rules are reversed! Where monopolies are good, murder is heroism, more spending gets you out of debt and coercive ponzi schemes are valid investments!

Tell me the one about the troll who brings gifts to all the children next please!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 06, 2013, 05:04:10 AM
This story from NotAlwaysRight. First time in a long time that I've been impressed with a police officer.



Quote(There are three customers outside on the patio: three men, one with long hair. The other two customers are friends and start volleying increasingly homophobic insults at him. I, as the hostess am closest and move to intervene.)

Me: "Gentlemen, please return to your meal. Abuse of the other patrons will not be tolerated and I do not want to have you thrown out."

Customer #1: "What the h*** are you talking about, are you dumb? That guy's a fucking f**. Look at his f***ing hair!"

Me: "You cannot discern another person's sexuality from a hairstyle, sir, and I'm going to have to ask you to leave. I already told you that I cannot allow you to insult the other patrons. I do not want to retrieve security."

Customer #2: "Screw that, b****! We're not going anywhere. I'm in the middle of eating."

(Surprisingly, a police man still in uniform walks up to us.)

Customer #1: "Hey, police man! This dumb f***ing c*** wants to throw us out instead of that d*** gay over there. Can you f***ing believe that?"

Policeman: "What I believe is that I should be very grateful to have a wonderful boyfriend who waited for me even though I was late and two idiots were heckling him. I believe that this young lady is quite commendable for standing up to those two idiots. I also believe you two want to pay for you lunches and leave."

(There's a bit of a stand off before the two get up and simply leave two twenty dollar bills. I turn to the remaining customer.)

Me: "I'm very, very sorry, sir. I'll tell your waiter that lunch for you and your partner is free."

Customer #3: "No need, miss."

(He pulls a ten dollar bill out of his wallet.)

Customer #3: "Hostesses don't get tipped, do they?"

Me: "That's really not necessary, sir. It's all just part of my job. I was happy to help."

Policeman: "And for that miss, I think it is necessary."

(He sits down across from his boyfriend and also hands me a ten. One of the men returned to complain to my manager ten minutes later and was summarily banned from the restaurant when the policeman and his partner explained what happened. I went to their wedding eight months later.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 06, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
A conversation I was having with D. I'll be in Red and D in blue. I couldn't stop laughing at his spot on response.

Hey D. do you have that one relative who is usually very smart and politically/economically savvy but has those moments that just frustrate you?
Define smart and politically and economically savy
I have people who think they are, but are just leftist socialist tools
My dad is complicated. He's a free market supporter and generally socially ambevilent but he still thinks that we live in a free market, that corporations and corporatism are a natural part of that, and that humanitarian wars are necessary.
So he's a Republican


I still can't stop laughing at his response. Nevermind the fact tht he guessed completely accuretly
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 06, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Is it just me or does this sound familiar?
Look at why the Japanese experts refused.
http://www.thearma.org/essays/knight-vs-samurai-experiences.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 06, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on January 06, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Is it just me or does this sound familiar?
Look at why the Japanese experts refused.
http://www.thearma.org/essays/knight-vs-samurai-experiences.html

Sounds like what anyone with made-up bullshit does when confronted with having to prove it against the real thing.

Now, a properly made katana is a fearsome thing, perfectly able to cut a man in two from shoulder to opposite hip if you do it properly.  However, that man is an unarmored peasant who had the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  While a katana may be effective against traditional Japanese armor, that armor is made of little more than cloth, bamboo and paint and is designed to protect the wearer from arrow strikes, not melee weapons, and isn't even really infantry armor at all but a relatively minor redesign of the armor for mounted archers from continental Asia (where mounted archers were the mainstay of armies for many centuries).  The Japanese even retained the bow design of mounted archers, which is why the largest Japanese bow, comparable in size to a European longbow, has the grip about half way between the middle and one end and is fired while kneeling with the arrow notched in a somewhat awkward position above the users head (and where the 'zen arrow' myth comes from).

Add the stylized and ritualistic nature of combat in internal wars in Japan, and you get a recipe for the kind of disaster they faced when the Mongols, who were really serious conquerors who knew how to use and how to beat the gear involved and didn't bother with silly rituals and just got on with the killing.  (Recall that over three generations, the Mongols managed to take over about half the land area of the planet, getting into middle Europe before internal conditions, mainly the death of their Emperor, caused them to go home and they never bothered coming back.  They also managed to exterminate the original cult of assassins, something the Muslim Caliphate had never been able to accomplish.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 06, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
There were some plate armor among samurai. Usually for rich families or heavy calvary.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 07, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Mmmmm dat's good liberal parody.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 07, 2013, 07:52:27 AM
My friend Pink Peruvian Flying Bear gave this gem recently.


QuoteThe Democrats are more than happy to lead the black race to freedom, but only behind their banner. God forbid they should step out of line.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 07, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
Quote from: D on January 07, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Mmmmm dat's good liberal parody.

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Video doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 07, 2013, 01:29:01 PM
Starting to like this guy.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 07, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Still funny even though I've never been an Ayn Rand fan.

"I think when Paul Ryan said he was an Ayn Rand admirer he meant the part where she drove away all of her fans."

David Cox
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 07, 2013, 04:47:52 PM
A little physics humor.

(http://i.imgur.com/2MSmU.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 07, 2013, 06:42:00 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 07, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
Video doesn't exist.

Fixed it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 09, 2013, 05:11:54 AM
I think Assassins Creed was mentioned in the Fail quotes thread so I would surmise that this piece from Yahtzee's "Extra Punctuation  (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/10051-The-Assassins-and-Templars-are-Idiots)" collum would be acceptable here.

QuoteThe Templars believe in keeping everyone oppressed under the heel of tyranny and the Assassins believe in setting everyone free to do whatever they like. Or at least, that's how the Assassin's marketing department swings it. The Templar's marketing department, meanwhile, prefer to word it thus: the Templars believe in peace and security throughout the world, while the Assassins are all terrorists who just want to tear down the system and leave everything in chaos and horror. The thing is, though, neither marketing department is exaggerating. Both sides are wilfully blind to the inherent flaws of their preferred system. The Assassins are supposed to be the good guys so occasionally they get introspective and brood over the righteousness of their cause, but then they run out and stab a whole bunch of people to death in pursuit of this cause they're not entirely sure about.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 09, 2013, 08:03:58 AM
OMG Gumba is back, please accept this bogon as a gift for your arrival.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on January 09, 2013, 10:08:41 AM
The truth is I never left you. I was always watching over you... through hacked CCTV cameras and email filters.
Btw, is anyone looking forward to another one of UBIsoft's games called Watchdogs where you can hack CCTV cameras and stuff?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 09, 2013, 12:24:18 PM
QuoteThe Templars believe in keeping everyone oppressed under the heel of tyranny and the Assassins believe in setting everyone free to do whatever they like. Or at least, that's how the Assassin's marketing department swings it. The Templar's marketing department, meanwhile, prefer to word it thus: the Templars believe in peace and security throughout the world, while the Assassins are all terrorists who just want to tear down the system and leave everything in chaos and horror. The thing is, though, neither marketing department is exaggerating. Both sides are wilfully blind to the inherent flaws of their preferred system. The Assassins are supposed to be the good guys so occasionally they get introspective and brood over the righteousness of their cause, but then they run out and stab a whole bunch of people to death in pursuit of this cause they're not entirely sure about.

I've never seen the characters be unsure about there beliefs. They've stayed pretty consistent to me.

Yes, Watch Dogs looks interesting.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 09, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 09, 2013, 06:00:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 10, 2013, 04:06:33 AM
To give my opinion on the Jones-Morgan debate I had to go old school.

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
― Frédéric Bastiat
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 10, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 11, 2013, 05:49:40 AM
Friend of mine gave me this gem.

QuoteThe Libertarian Conspiracy
we are going to take over the government......and leave you alone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 11, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 11, 2013, 07:15:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 11, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
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I love Morgan's reaction.

"HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF DOING EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING?!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 12, 2013, 11:09:48 PM
If only this had taken place in a town that didn't have a reputation as a joke town (it's also where my family comes from): then we just might gain enough celebrity status to attract worldwide attention to the whole issue in the west bank:

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(yes, this is a protest, making fun of an incident from the IDF. the dancing is crap, but it's not in the traditional style, so of course they suck at dancing modern style.)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 13, 2013, 01:57:32 AM
Quote from: D on January 11, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
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I love Morgan's reaction.

"HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF DOING EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING?!"

I've been trying to talk to the gun banners in this video (on another channel)! Oh, My Nonexistant God. Its like headbutting a brick wall. They will not listen.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 13, 2013, 03:23:38 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on January 13, 2013, 01:57:32 AM
I've been trying to talk to the gun banners in this video (on another channel)! Oh, My Nonexistant God. Its like headbutting a brick wall. They will not listen.

what can one say? these people are either stupid or everemotional. I've stop giving a fuck ages ago about convincing such people.

EDIT: here's a funny rant, made of win:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 15, 2013, 08:29:45 PM
"Guys, can't you see that even an imperfect society is better than the savagery of creating a new one?" —Lisa Simpson

Excellent put-down of the Broken Window Fallacy from Sunday's The Simpsons!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 15, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 16, 2013, 02:38:06 PM
best....sale...ever:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html;jsessionid=F34CF7196F4DF02458E719B7EFE4E513?_nkw=Assault%20Weapon%20Cavemans%20AR15%20Assault%20Rock&_itemId=160953713972
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 17, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
This site (http://www.assaultweapon.info/) has a bunch of nice information on "assault rifles."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 18, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
I just had to share this.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/391/485/a94.jpg)

Oh and I can't forget this gem.


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 19, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 19, 2013, 08:12:55 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/553439_10151356594601489_722806763_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on January 19, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on January 21, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Currently overhauling our local LP site. Figure start from the ground up, or in this case with the required disclaimer
QuoteThe State Requires we say:
"This is a paid political advertisement from the Libertarian Party of Duval County"
We think this is silly and are working towards a future free from state control over speech.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 22, 2013, 01:29:46 PM
"If you come on this page and use the phrase 'buy elections' to describe people pooling their resources to buy advertising to sell their favored candidate or cause, then I know you're not a serious thinker on the issue of campaign finance." —Jim Babka
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 22, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
This one is kind of shocking, but I suppose everyone is due for a "fav quote" at some point.

I bring you Jesse Ventura (http://lewrockwell.com/ventura/sandy-hook-shooting.html):

Quote"I don't see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event.

  • Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes.
  • Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes.
  • Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes.
  • Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes, and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event.


Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot.

Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don't see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can't expect them to pull off elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy "smoking guns" for us to find.

It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it.

It's very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell "Fire!" just because someone makes a Youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas.

Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called "evidence" of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us "conspiracy theorists", us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush.

Now if only he would show this kind of critical thinking for all the other conspiracy whackjobbery he promotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 27, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 27, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: D on January 27, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
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My only problem with this video is that Jacob lifted that loudmouthed, unthinking moron to his level. That sort deserve to be ignored, or if they can't be ignored, openly denigrated. If you don't, you imply that the other person's arguments are just as legitimate as yours. Still, good takedown.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 27, 2013, 03:29:54 PM
I kind of agree, Shane, but then people think we are ignoring arguments, that were a bunch of elitist pricks, or that we are plain cultists. Responces like the one Jacob gave are needed. Besides, just look at Jacob's face. He does NOT think that guy is on his level  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 27, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: VectorM on January 27, 2013, 03:29:54 PM
I kind of agree, Shane, but then people think we are ignoring arguments, that were a bunch of elitist pricks, or that we are plain cultists. Responces like the one Jacob gave are needed. Besides, just look at Jacob's face. He does NOT think that guy is on his level  ;D

seconded: the dead-pan expression tells me all I need to know about Spinney's opinion of dusty: complete dismissal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 28, 2013, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 27, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
seconded: the dead-pan expression tells me all I need to know about Spinney's opinion of dusty: complete dismissal.

Actually, that's the only way I've EVER seen Jacob in ANY of his videos.  Of course, since I've also never seen any attack on Libertarianism that was at a level above Cult's, this isn't surprising.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 30, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
This is very, very funny (well, if you like Howard Stern, who's sort of like how The True Pooka would be if he wasn't so full of himself).  Howard Stern is making fun of both Kirk Cameron for his bronze-age-inspired prattle about homosexuality, and Piers Morgan for being so desperate as to book him.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 30, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
"No, I don't hate God for mandating slavery, and no I don't believe that God is evil for mandating slavery. I don't believe that THIS god, the absurd god of the bible, is even extant, let alone worthy of any adjectives beyond that! This god's inhumane and ridiculously cruel commands say nothing about the god that they are ascribed to, simply because they are so obviously ascribed to a god by the men in whose image this god was made.

"Deal with it folks; your god is the brainchild of some particularly awful humans. The bible simply and clearly gets this very easy human rights question utterly wrong.

"Abandon it, and keep looking for answers. You'll be ever so glad you did." —NonStampCollector

The video this was written on is a Fav too:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 31, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on January 30, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
This is very, very funny (well, if you like Howard Stern, who's sort of like how The True Pooka would be if he wasn't so full of himself). 

I dunno: I keep thinking about his two hired hands, Sal and Richard, with their prank calling of tradio stations...that and his run for Governor or Mayor or sth--that was in 1994, as a Libertarian party IIRC. (or was it just as a Libertarian? I dunno)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 01, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 01, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
A new idea is something they don't know yet, so of course it's not going to show up as an option.
~ Don Draper
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 02, 2013, 06:58:36 PM
While the pic below is win, a comment I read from "If Libertarians Are Crazy, I Don't Want to be Sane (https://www.facebook.com/IfLibertariansAreCrazyIDontWantToBeSane/posts/483125241752111)" is just as much win:
Quote from: Mike JonesThis is so wrong! The President does NOT use a drone to shoot skeet! He's uses them to shoot children.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/391841_332369716868069_530809356_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 05, 2013, 11:33:16 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 05, 2013, 02:04:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 05, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 05, 2013, 11:52:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 06, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 10, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 11, 2013, 07:47:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 11, 2013, 08:17:06 PM
Might be hubris to put this in fav quotes since I made this up on quick meme, but....

(http://t.qkme.me/3syakr.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 12, 2013, 03:11:56 PM
QuoteI am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason. -Klatu, The Day The Earth Stood Still.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 13, 2013, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 05, 2013, 11:52:54 PM
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Totally made my day. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 13, 2013, 01:14:08 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 13, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
has the Dos Eques guy ever been in a position of fail?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on February 13, 2013, 03:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 13, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
has the Dos Eques guy ever been in a position of fail?

He doesn't always fail, but when he does, he doesn't.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 13, 2013, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 13, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
has the Dos Eques guy ever been in a position of fail?

Judging by that picture above, only grammatically.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 13, 2013, 11:05:47 PM
(http://t.qkme.me/3sz4qn.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 14, 2013, 06:01:35 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 14, 2013, 08:38:55 PM
you know, with every day, I lose more and more hope in a bright future: no work, less job openings every day I look, and a government that just doesn't give a fuck, and keeps right on screwing us over.

part of me just wants to shut off all outside communication: hopefully if I do it long enough, I'll be declared legally dead, and won't have to pay my loans off.

yeah, that's how depressing the state of the Union Address was. Schiff's words didn't help. yet I know he's right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 15, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 16, 2013, 02:07:50 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 14, 2013, 08:38:55 PM
you know, with every day, I lose more and more hope in a bright future: no work, less job openings every day I look, and a government that just doesn't give a fuck, and keeps right on screwing us over.

part of me just wants to shut off all outside communication: hopefully if I do it long enough, I'll be declared legally dead, and won't have to pay my loans off.

yeah, that's how depressing the state of the Union Address was. Schiff's words didn't help. yet I know he's right.

You know what I think? I think we should let them spend. The more and faster the better. Once the shit hits the fan and the economy goes bust then they will finally see that they were fools and suffer the consequences.

Sounds hopeless doesn't it? I don't have much hope for the near future either.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 16, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on February 15, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
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The situation in the UK might be even worse.  In the summer of 2005, there was an incident where a couple of Special Branch (London Metropolitan Police counter-terrorism unit) guys panicked and killed a random person, and completely blew the entire surveillance operation they were supposed to be conducting.  (And they did it because they didn't know what the people they were interested in looked like, despite Special Branch having photos of everyone they were interested in for the operation available.  Apparently their jobs weren't supposed to involve knowing who they were supposed to be watching.)  There was a rather ham-fisted attempt at a coverup, involving trying to claim that the officers were responding to reports of a man in a bulky coat vaulting the turnstile at the subway entrance and running through the station.  This was completely impossible, since the reports turned out to be about the officers themselves.  (The victim had quite sedately walked into the station, paid his fair properly, bought a newspaper, stepped aboard the train, sat down, started reading...and then two men accosted him, he stood up, one tackled him, and the other emptied his handgun into the guys head at point blank range.)

People in the UK were much more upset about the attempted coverup than the fact their police had started to murder random people in public because the police were being idiots.

I recently learned that the shooter was back on regular duty before the investigation was even completed.  The victim's family was surprised as well, particularly as they learned about this in the context of the next time the guy killed someone.  (The shooter turns out to be a specially trained officer permitted to carry a firearm in his normal duties, unlike most police in the UK who are only armed if assigned unusual duties requiring a firearm.)  The fact he killed someone else soon after is extremely disturbing as well.  Most police officers who kill someone in the line of duty that wasn't the result of the officer completely fucking up don't tend to return to normal duty for a long time afterwards, if ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 17, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
This video is old but its a pure work of art.


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 19, 2013, 07:40:26 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on February 20, 2013, 04:22:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 22, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
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Glenn Beck status:
[]Not told
[]Told
[X]GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY HE'S GOT HIM IN THE SPINNING TOLD HOLD!


Back story: Glenn Beck recently addressed the new controversial angle of Jack Swagger and Zeb Coulter being these right wing extremists who hate immigrants. He, and many other conservatives, are angry at the fact that this negatively depicts conservatism. Glenn Beck referred to it as "stupid wrestling people." This was their response to Glenn Beck.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on February 22, 2013, 10:08:56 PM
Kinda hard to watch that when they start talking about "Stealin' jerbs"

Oh, shit, just saw past minute 1, sorry about that  :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 22, 2013, 10:32:07 PM
Quote from: VectorM on February 22, 2013, 10:08:56 PM
Kinda hard to watch that when they start talking about "Stealin' jerbs"

Oh, shit, just saw past minute 1, sorry about that  :D

That's the best part about it. They start off completely in character to set up the whole scenario. Then when they're done, they cut the crap and get the real message out and like total professionals, completely transition back into character.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 23, 2013, 02:52:05 AM
Quote from: D on February 22, 2013, 10:32:07 PM
That's the best part about it. They start off completely in character to set up the whole scenario. Then when they're done, they cut the crap and get the real message out and like total professionals, completely transition back into character.

well, what they did should be summed up in one word: win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 24, 2013, 03:37:01 AM
Ran in to this on Yahoo answers in response to a question about whether criminals register their guns.


QuoteCertainly! They also go to the police department and file the plans for their crime.

If the firearm they intend to use in committing their crime of choice is banned by the government they immediately turn that firearm in to the proper authorities.

They also make sure that they have all proper permits to carry their firearms in public.

And if you believe any of that you probably believe that I'm about to be named the Pope of Rome (I ain't even Catholic), while also being named Emperor of the State of New York for life.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 24, 2013, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: tnu on February 24, 2013, 03:37:01 AM
Ran in to this on Yahoo answers in response to a question about whether criminals register their guns.

wait, someone seriously asked if criminals register their guns?

anyways, here's a favorite quote from Ancient China:

"There is lard in the cellar, well fed horses, yet there are starving and dying people in the wilderness. This is feeding men to the beasts!"

-Meng Zi.

(it's about the feudal lords of the time)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 24, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 26, 2013, 10:32:33 PM
That guy had some real balls:

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yes, this is Saudi Arabia: yes, this is a single protestor, and yes, he had the guts to do this publicly and openly. he's basically busting the balls of the government.

he's in jail now. goes without saying though.

EDIT: @ REHWR:

don't forget this gem:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 27, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
QuoteIn these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, — if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people, if well administered; and I believe, farther, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.
   ---   Benjamin Franklin  Speech to the Constitutional Convention (September 17, 1787); reported in James Madison, Journal of the Federal Convention, ed. E. H. Scott (1893), p. 742.

Unnervingly prescient. Even Franklin knew that a constitutional system would inevitably fail like all states that came before it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 27, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: tnu on February 27, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
Unnervingly prescient. Even Franklin knew that a constitutional system would inevitably fail like all states that came before it.

Which one of the Founding Fathers made the remark about it being desirable to have a revolution about once a generation?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 27, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on February 27, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
Which one of the Founding Fathers made the remark about it being desirable to have a revolution about once a generation?

Jefferson
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 27, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on February 27, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
Which one of the Founding Fathers made the remark about it being desirable to have a revolution about once a generation?

Thomas Jefferson IIRC.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 27, 2013, 05:40:05 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty...what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure." —Thomas Jefferson, to William Smith, November 13, 1787
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 27, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 27, 2013, 11:17:22 PM
From wikipedia's article on Social Contract.

Quotea supposed social contract cannot be used to justify governmental actions such as taxation, because government will initiate force against anyone who does not wish to enter into such a contract. As a result, it is not voluntary and therefore cannot be considered a legitimate contract at all.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 28, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
Quote from: tnu on February 27, 2013, 11:17:22 PM
From wikipedia's article on Social Contract.

That's the part where they summarize Lysander Spooner's position.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 28, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
Even I get a good zinger in every now and then.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/15qreph.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 28, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: tnu on February 27, 2013, 11:17:22 PM
From wikipedia's article on Social Contract.

They love to claim that violence is totally a reasonable response to breach of contract.  Funny how they can't seem to cite one case of Blockbuster sending armed men to your house for not returning videos or VISA locking you up for not paying your bill.  Strange isn't it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 28, 2013, 07:59:47 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 28, 2013, 10:37:28 PM
[spoiler]
Quote from: D on February 28, 2013, 07:59:47 PM
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:D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 01, 2013, 03:50:21 AM
QuoteOnce upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over an 85 billion dollar cut in the increase of spending this year,
While I panicked, nearly fainting, I realized they were feigning,
As of someone generating political capital I can not ignore.
"Tis some democrat," I muttered, "using scare tactics for a political score,
Only this, and nothing more."

Ah, distinctly I remember, it was in the debt ceiling endeavor,
And each party claimed it would not rest till the deficit was shored,
Eagerly I waited knowing, vainly I hoped for a showing
that the cuts would be substantial in the relevancy they bore!
For the rare and unheard of spending cuts, of which the liberals abhor!
Stuck in committee, forevermore.

And the empty sad uncertain flapping of each mouth made certain,
Thrilled me-- filled me with fantastic pessimism I'd never felt before,
So that now, to still the beating of my heart I stood repeating,
"Tis some solution even partisans can't ignore!
Some late solution deserving vote upon the House floor.
That it is, and nothing more."

Presently my soul grew stronger; doubting representatives no longer,

"SIR," said I, "or Madam, truly your solutions I abhore;
But the fact is you were touting, from your devious accounting,
that draconian cuts amounting to our deaths was at our door,
That I scarce was sure you knew math."

Here I read the CBC report.
A cut in the rate of increase, and nothing more.

Deep into the budget peering, long I read it, wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams of a surplus never had before;
But the spending was unbroken, and sequester stayed unbroken,
As the only cuts we'd ever see, that much is sure.
This I knew, and David Boaz murmured back at me,
"that much is sure."
Merely 2%, and nothing more.

Back into my chamber turning, all my soul within me burning,
Soon it seemed every politician was going back upon his word.
"Surely," said I, "surely we can cut this 16 trillion.
Let me see then how we cut the budget, this debt that's so absurd.
Let pragmatics be still a moment as we cut this debt absurd.
16 trillion's too much to ignore."

But then here I gave up glumly, when, with many a graph and study
In there stepped Gillespie with some stats I couldn't ignore.
Not the least in panic was he; not a fiscal crisis dug he;
But with mien of lord or lady; pinned a graph on my chalk board.
Pinned a chart of budget facts, just above my chalk board.
Full of facts, and nothing more.

Then this leather laden libertarian turned my sad fancy into smiling,
'Cause he was sure to say that politicians he did abhor,
"Though thy math be full of fact, thou" I said, "art sure no hack,
rational, realistic, and libertarian, longing for freedom, sure.
Tell me why we fear such small cuts from the budget that's in store"

Quoth Gillespie, "Nevermore."

Much I marvelled at this awkward libertarian to hear discourse so plainly,
Though his answers had much meaning, in Washington they'd still ignore.
For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being
Ever will live to see a budget with a surplus in store,
Not 'till Jackson, and never since, shall a surplus be in store,
With a yearly budget, larger than that of yore.

But Gillespie, looking at his statistics, spoke only
of impending insolvency, as if the reckless spending he could not ignore.
Obama's budget is inaccurate, sequester isn't taking an axe to it,
So I asked if we do not cut, what for us is in store?
Pension insolvency, forevermore.

"Extremist!" Said I, "Thing of evil!-- extremist still if right or wrong!
Whether debt's beyond controlling, or whether sequester is too much, sure!
You don't care about the children, the elderly, or the poor!
Quoth Gillespie, "The debt we can't ignore."

And the sequester, never avoided, still is sitting, still is sitting,
On the House floor.
And the cuts have all the seeming of saving face while seeming
To care about cuts while pretending to give a fuck about the poor.
And our treasury bonds' interest rates to pay off debt galore,

Shall be lifted-- Nevermore.

Just awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 01, 2013, 07:09:59 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 01, 2013, 03:50:21 AM
Just awesome.

No, it was pretty good. It would have been awesome if he'd matched the meter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 01, 2013, 08:04:21 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 28, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
They love to claim that violence is totally a reasonable response to breach of contract.  Funny how they can't seem to cite one case of Blockbuster sending armed men to your house for not returning videos or VISA locking you up for not paying your bill.  Strange isn't it?

Well, in fact, they will, after a fashion, but only once the State gives it a formal OK through the courts, and it'll be the armed men employed by the State who actually do any dirty work.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 01, 2013, 12:36:40 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 01, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
From The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-poll-finds-86-percent-of-americans-dont-want-t,1916/):

"I already belong to a health club, a church, and the Kiwanis Club," Tammy Golden of Los Angeles wrote. "I'm a member of the Von's Grocery Super Savers, which gets me a discount on certain groceries. These are all well-managed organizations with real benefits. None of them send me a confusing bill once a year and make me work it out myself, then throw me in jail if I get it wrong."

Pauls added: "I love America, but what's that got to do with having a country?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 02, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
"Stand firm for what you believe in...until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked, he is naked. The truth and the lie are not sort of the same thing. And there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life, that can't be improved with Pizza."

-Daria, from that weird cartoon about...Daria....called Daria....

oh, and this:

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nothing like biting commentary from the show that set the bar for how messed up it is.

and yes, the Daria in that clip is also the Daria from the show.

I seriously had a messed up childhood.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 02, 2013, 09:56:35 PM
Shame we'll never see THIS for a State of the Union address:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 03, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/529756_579131635430527_1655065334_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2013, 02:03:37 PM
How awesome—I, Pencil in Arabic Farsi!

(Thought of you when I saw this, Ibrahim.)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/644556_10152080578839240_1968964124_n.jpg)

(This was published in Iran. Apparently more people in Iran speak Farsi than Arabic. I didn't know that.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
thanks for the thought, but I'm afraid It's not in Arabic.  :P

it uses a modified version of the script, yes, but it is not in Arabic. Actually, I don't have an idea what language it is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on March 04, 2013, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
thanks for the thought, but I'm afraid It's not in Arabic.  :P

it uses a modified version of the script, yes, but it is not in Arabic. Actually, I don't have an idea what language it is.

I think it's either Urdu or Farsi.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
Well, blech. They said Arabic on the Facebook page.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 04, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
thanks for the thought, but I'm afraid It's not in Arabic.  :P

it uses a modified version of the script, yes, but it is not in Arabic. Actually, I don't have an idea what language it is.

Now, I am intrigued.

Two obvious questions come to mind:

Are there any other languages that share script with Arabic?

Does it actually look like a language, or just random letters?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 04, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
Now, I am intrigued.

Two obvious questions come to mind:

Are there any other languages that share script with Arabic?

plenty actually: Persian, Urdu, Pashtun, some Turkic languages, several Berber dialects (alongside latin and the native script of the Berbers), Ottoman Turkish (not modern Turkish--that uses a latin script), Kurdish, etc.

it has to do with when the Arabs conquered all the regions around them, especially with the spread of of the Arabic language, and Islam.

Quote from: evensgrey on March 04, 2013, 02:50:01 PMDoes it actually look like a language, or just random letters?

it's definitely some sort of language (if it's fake, it's pretty consistent). could be Persian, though I can't find the word for "is" (which in Persian is "est"). It's not urdu though: it has an unmistakable script (it resembles the "ruq'ah" font for Arabic, and has certain unique letters, like a raa' with a miniature ta' over it, ڑ)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 04:04:23 PMit's definitely some sort of language (if it's fake, it's pretty consistent). could be Persian, though I can't find the word for "is" (which in Persian is "est"). It's not urdu though: it has an unmistakable script (it resembles the "ruq'ah" font for Arabic, and has certain unique letters, like a raa' with a miniature ta' over it, ڑ)

I'm being told now that it's Farsi. It was made in Iran, and apparently more people in Iran speak Farsi than Arabic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 04, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 04, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
I'm being told now that it's Farsi. It was made in Iran, and apparently more people in Iran speak Farsi than Arabic.

so it is Persian? OK.

(yes, Farsi=modern Persian).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 06, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482801_10200695949750971_956235524_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20290_5-famous-online-copyright-crusaders-who-are-total-hypocrites.html

Because, you see--those laws are for the peons and little people; not the glitterati, politicians and social elite.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 07, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 06, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20290_5-famous-online-copyright-crusaders-who-are-total-hypocrites.html

Because, you see--those laws are for the peons and little people; not the glitterati, politicians and social elite.

Comments are filled with fail though. Gotta love this type of comment "Herp derp, we just need to make it so that corporations don't abuse copyrights, otherwise copyrights are fine and without them there would be CHAOS, ANARCHY!!!!". Paraphrased, obviously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 07, 2013, 08:47:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on March 09, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
From Urban Dictionary

Definition of Statheist.

QuoteOne who rejects religion as irrational but who advocates the existence of the state, usually as a desperate compensation for the comfort that religion brings. The term is most often used by anarchist-atheists to demonstrate to the statheist that the logic they use to justify the state is faulty even though they had sufficient logic to reject religion, implying that they are reproducing the same errors in thinking that they profess to despise in religious people.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Statheist
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 09, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 11, 2013, 02:56:16 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/61419-anita-sarkeesian

Another case of TheAmazingAtheist when he's on his game!  Bravo!

To Anita, I had this to say
"Bitch please, I'm an atheist/anarchist/gamer with generous helpings of furry, brony, along with many others.  I'd need to be gay for trolls to hate me any more than they do.  You don't know jack about troll haters so pull your big girl pants up if you want to be taken seriously in this arena."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 11, 2013, 01:45:00 PM

Sarkeesian is quintessential First World Feminist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 13, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
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Luchajin destroys the shitty Tropes vs. Women in Gaming video that has been making the rounds as of late. The video this podcast talks about basically says that women are always portrayed as useless characters who need help and Luchajin completely destroys that argument.

Unfortunately Proton Jon is choosing to be a beta male who sides with the uber feminist garbage.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 13, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 13, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/734246_232689236856119_1705100142_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 15, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
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srsly, this guy has some win in him. and where it is in him, it is strong.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 15, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 11, 2013, 02:56:16 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/61419-anita-sarkeesian

Another case of TheAmazingAtheist when he's on his game!  Bravo!

To Anita, I had this to say
"Bitch please, I'm an atheist/anarchist/gamer with generous helpings of furry, brony, along with many others.  I'd need to be gay for trolls to hate me any more than they do.  You don't know jack about troll haters so pull your big girl pants up if you want to be taken seriously in this arena."

So, basicaly you told her to man up...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 16, 2013, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 15, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
So, basicaly you told her to man up...

Really, the whole movement needs to.  They need to get out of their comfort zone and stop obsessing over these petty, first world, non issues.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 16, 2013, 08:50:46 PM
Really, the whole movement needs to.  They need to get out of their comfort zone and stop obsessing over these petty, first world, non issues.

You do realize they won't, right? let's face it, a lot of these people are too chickenshit.

how about what happens in Africa (sub-Saharan Africa in particular)? in Saudi Arabia? in Afghanistan? in parts of southern Europe, etc? they won't address it, and those that have are inept at it, for one reason or another.

fact is, people far too easily lose perspective, and context. And so cannot do as you suggest they should.

the same applies to Vegan movements too. And of those Socialists/Marxists/Commies. And the PETA people. And....

of course, you know that. so  :shrug:
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 17, 2013, 12:59:40 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
And the PETA people.

ya, PETA the group that's killed more animals than Ted Nugent ever will.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2013, 01:50:30 PM
tell me about it. the irony and hypocrisy are incalculable.

in the meantime:

[wiki]Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf[/wiki] was bathing in the Persian gulf, when he started drowning. A Muslim saw him, swam towards him, and saved his life, dragging him ashore. So Al-hajjaj said: "ask whatever you wish, and it will be done".

the Man asked: "who are you to be able to give me whatever I wish?"

Al-Hajjaj: "I'm Al-hajjaj ibn Yusuf"

on hearing this, the man simply replied: "In that case I only ask you for God's sake that you do not tell anyone I was the one who saved your life".


the joke makes more sense if you know who Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf was, but yeah...it's a win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on March 17, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 15, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
So, basicaly you told her to man up...

So you think only men can pull their pants up and deal with it?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 17, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
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Thunderf00t is really on his game here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 17, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
You do realize they won't, right? let's face it, a lot of these people are too chickenshit.

how about what happens in Africa (sub-Saharan Africa in particular)? in Saudi Arabia? in Afghanistan? in parts of southern Europe, etc? they won't address it, and those that have are inept at it, for one reason or another.

fact is, people far too easily lose perspective, and context. And so cannot do as you suggest they should.

the same applies to Vegan movements too. And of those Socialists/Marxists/Commies. And the PETA people. And....

of course, you know that. so  :shrug:

Now, some say they'd rather stick with matters closer to home which I can understand but even then, there's a lot far greater issues that get passes from them.

Plus I don't believe there's any kind of sexist conspiracy in video games at all.  What it has is a problem of lazy writers who haven't clued in that you can't get away with cutting corners on writing in games anymore.  Hence all the self insertion beefcake protagonists that dominate it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 18, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
With sincere apologies to Mr. Lord T Hawkeye. :P

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 19, 2013, 03:33:27 PM
WAAAY too late to jump on that bandwagon.


Anyway, I've had mixed opinions of Yahtzee but this one was gold

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/10243-Games-With-Fake-Wars-Are-Stupid

QuoteA lot of people seem to have varying concepts of what the Metal Gear series is intending to be. The word "quirky" tends to get thrown around a lot. But quirky I would understand. Wario Ware and No More Heroes are "quirky" games that I like a lot. It's quirky bits alongside attempts at serious character drama where the writing gets just plain bad. Like Metal Gear Solid 4, in which a soul-sick dying old man puts a gun in his mouth in hour 1 and rolls around in a barrel until he pukes in hour 2.

But I'm not going to beat on Metal Gear too much, because there's still something about it that appeals to me. That's why I don't want to hear anyone reminding me that Hideo Kojima was only on Rising in a supervisory role, because in my desire for artistry in games I cling to the notion that at least one major franchise is directed by a single auteur. No, I'd like to talk about game plotting in general, and one game plot in particular.

Okay. Games industry? There's a plot that I know you're all very fond of, but you need to stop using it. Here it is, in brief, broad terms:

"A private military company (or arms manufacturer) deliberately engineers terrorism or political destabilisation in order to provoke a global conflict, because then there will be lots of business for them."

Now, it's very easy to see why this plot strikes a chord with modern audiences. It combines the PMC - one of the few remaining acceptable targets in a sociopolitical minefield because they are generally understood to consist of soldiers who want to fight for personal gain rather than out of loyalty to a country or ideology - with the bogeyman that is big business, and the pursuit of profit over human lives. This is a time of crisis after economic crisis, and it's a fairly understandable rule of thumb that whether popular fiction depicts the powerful as gentle protectors or greedy hoarding assholes depends largely on whether or not there's a recession going on. One of these days I should write a serious article about my "Dragon" Theory Of Global Economics.

But any character shown to have the motivation expressed above is immediately placed on the level of a Care Bears villain, who wants to cacklingly use an exotic contraption to drain the sunshine from every baby's smile. To my mind, the truly great villain is one whose thinking we could sort of understand. We should be able to imagine how, from their perspective, they see themselves as the protagonist. That can't always be the case and there's nothing wrong with making the morality of the story a bit cut and dry, but at the very least the villain's scheme should make sense on some logical level. In that regard, "PMCs provoking global conflict" is beaten out even by the baby smiles plot, which at least leads to a net profit if you can find a good sunlight fence. Here's why:

1. A PMC requires more than just a state of war to function

The problem with making a massive global conflict happen is that at some point it's going to come back and hurt you. Because that's war. In Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker, in a classic example of writing worthy of a 12-year-old, one of the villains is trying to get a nuke detonated for some unclear purpose related to nuclear deterrence, and it's pointed out to him that the radiation will destroy farmland.

His response is that all those farmers can be hired to build armaments instead. That's a great idea, except that the farmers, and also you, have to eat at some point. Your company still needs manpower, electricity and facilities, any one of which could be lost from a single inconvenient bomb. And then, even if you do make lots of money from security contracts, it doesn't take much enemy action for that money to lose value. What if they blockade trade, or nuke the stock market?

But okay, let's say they're only encouraging a war between countries far away from where their head office is based. You still run into the problem that:

2. Any secret evil scheme a PMC concocts is inherently insecure

I'm just going to assume that you probably don't want it getting out that your company funds terrorists or deliberately and calculatedly fuels war. And a corporation, by nature of being big and faceless, consists of a large number of individuals, any one of which could grow a conscience at any time. What are you hoping will prevent that? Company loyalty? I already said that the whole reason PMCs are a popular villain is because their employees aren't loyal to any kind of ideology, only to money. And they might think that there's more money in blackmail, or turning you in, than putting their lives on the line for a yearly salary. You have no right to look surprised if you exclusively hire amoral traitors and then they betray you.

But even if you did manage to secure the perfect combination of ruthlessness and loyalty in your workforce, you can't escape the fact that:

3. Creating a niche for your business doesn't necessarily mean you'll fill it

The equivalent to the "Engineer war so that people will hire your PMC" scheme would be if someone at, say, Cadbury's, tried to improve sales by dumping hunger-inducing drugs into the water supply. You make everyone hungry, but they're not necessarily going to buy your product, are they. This notion often seems to slip by the evil PMC. The warring armies could just as easily buy security from one of their competitors, who might then drive them out of business. That seems like something of a risk, on top of the financial risk from the no doubt stupid amounts of cash being blown on the scheme, and also the risk of being found out, going to prison, and getting nobbed in the showers.

And finally:

4. It's an unhealthy paranoid fantasy

When bad things happen, looking for something to blame is a very human response. None of us like to think that we live in a world where any one of us could be crushed by uncontrolled chaotic forces at any time. So if we can't find a clear culprit, we look for whoever benefits, and then it's a small step to depict them as actually having calculated it. But I think we as a species would be a lot mentally healthier if we stopped taking comfort in delusions and learned to accept the transitive nature of our existence. That's why I spend my Sunday evenings in an airtight box with a poison gas capsule set up to release on the decay of a single radioactive atom.

As I've said before, if you think manufactured scarcity works, go ask Sega how well it worked out for them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 19, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 19, 2013, 03:33:27 PM
As I've said before, if you think manufactured scarcity works, go ask Sega how well it worked out for them.

Or the makers of the original Divx.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 19, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 19, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
Or the makers of the original Divx.

Their problem wasn't the artificial scarcity, it was that they forgot to leave any profit to be made by the distribution channels.  Even if people wanted to buy the damn things nobody in their right mind would sell them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20322_6-ways-companies-are-secretly-screwing-job-applicants.html
FML
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2013, 09:58:53 PM
On a much lighter/more relevant note:

"Show me a man who resorts to violence, and I'll show you a man who has run out of ideas."--Doug's dad on Nickelodeon's Doug.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 22, 2013, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 22, 2013, 09:58:53 PM
On a much lighter/more relevant note:

"Show me a man who resorts to violence, and I'll show you a man who has run out of ideas."--Doug's dad on Nickelodeon's Doug.

WIN!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 24, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
"There are a million ways to set off a bomb and no law can prevent it from happening. Any reasonable person understands this. Unfortunately, our politically correct, alarmist, liability hysterical culture demands that government do something. The culture doesn't know or care whether it's logical, or makes any difference. Our culture sleeps better knowing that Big Brother is babysitting. Satisfy the public's emotions, and you have a happy population. I guarantee you that Osama bin Laden is not rending his garments in despair over all his plans being ruined, now that Americans aren't allowed to bring a bottle of water on board a plane. It's a useless and inconvenient law, but it shows that government cares, and our culture is willing to be walked all over and curtailed in any way necessary to feel protected." —Brian Dunning, in this article where he expertly debunks the myths about cell phones on planes (http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4014).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 26, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 28, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
Inspired by D's latest post (as of this post) in fail quotes:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
And while I'm at it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 30, 2013, 09:24:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2013, 01:17:02 PM
"Being libertarian is quite simple. If you believe it is wrong to use force to get your way about things, you are a libertarian. If you hold that belief, no matter what you call yourself, you are a libertarian." —R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on March 31, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 01, 2013, 12:28:45 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 04, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 05, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
Wow. When Thunderf00t's on, he is ON!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 05, 2013, 09:53:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on April 07, 2013, 10:46:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 05, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
Wow. When Thunderf00t's on, he is ON!

[yt]95LG9crl3yo[/yt]

OMG, dude, seriously, this SEXIST shit again? NAFALT! NAFALT!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 07, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
And there I was thinking about giving up all hope on that guy. If only he was this consistently win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 07, 2013, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 07, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
And there I was thinking about giving up all hope on that guy. If only he was this consistently win.
<accent area="Alabama">Thunderf00t videos are like a box of chocolates...</accent>
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2013, 05:11:06 PM
[spoiler](https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6988123_700b_v1.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2013, 05:39:03 PM
And while I'm at it:

(https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/7015654_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 07, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547452_10151540959061489_1257712435_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 08, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 10, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 07, 2013, 05:11:06 PM
[spoiler](https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6988123_700b_v1.jpg)[/spoiler]

First I'd like to say this is purely amazing. Second I had this on YouTube.


thimoneus 2 months ago

Smearing people with unfounded racist accusations is the liberal version of McCarthyism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2013, 08:43:23 PM
@tnu: Thanks!  There's plenty more where that came from:

[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/lIIsn.jpg)[/spoiler]

Under a spoiler because image is so long.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 12, 2013, 12:18:19 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 12, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
"But maybe more common than that is good ol' Attention Seeking Behavior, which every single person who's ever spent just one evening with a child will be familiar with. The outcast, like the child, knows that hate is not the opposite of love, apathy is. All that negative attention is still attention, and the abuse is still several steps better than being ignored."--source:  http://www.cracked.com/article_17522_6-new-personality-disorders-caused-by-internet_p2.html
One more reason why I believe that social ostracism would work to deter nastier crime in an anarchist society.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 12, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 12, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
"But maybe more common than that is good ol' Attention Seeking Behavior, which every single person who's ever spent just one evening with a child will be familiar with. The outcast, like the child, knows that hate is not the opposite of love, apathy is. All that negative attention is still attention, and the abuse is still several steps better than being ignored."--source:  http://www.cracked.com/article_17522_6-new-personality-disorders-caused-by-internet_p2.html
One more reason why I believe that social ostracism would work to deter nastier crime in an anarchist society.

First, please tell me where youa re getting all these images. Secondly that hit far too close ot home for me and not in a good way either. I know what thesepeople are talking about. osmetimes i'm not sure ofr me if its worse to be hated, dismissed, ignored, or forgotton.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 12, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 12, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on April 12, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
[yt]hiIGUFhPfO8[/yt]

This guy is what I think Alfonzo Rachel would be like if he wasn't a bucket of dick.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 13, 2013, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on April 12, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
This guy is what I think Alfonzo Rachel would be like if he wasn't a bucket of dick.

Unfortunately, he seems to be a one-issue wonder.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 13, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Nothing wrong with sticking to what you know.  We've seen the disastrous results when people try to step outside their area of expertise.  (you listening Thunderf00t?)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 13, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 13, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Nothing wrong with sticking to what you know.  We've seen the disastrous results when people try to step outside their area of expertise.  (you listening Thunderf00t?)

When have I ever stepped INTO my field of expertise?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 13, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
I always thought science and politics were yoru field of experties Shane. yOu were certyainly one of my biggest influances.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 13, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: tnu on April 13, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
I always thought science and politics were yoru field of experties Shane. yOu were certyainly one of my biggest influances.

Thanks, but I hold no formal training in any of that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 13, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 13, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
Thanks, but I hold no formal training in any of that.

I've never had any in history. And I know more than most college grads.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 13, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
When is Remy not awesome?

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 13, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 13, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
When have I ever stepped INTO my field of expertise?

About as much as I did I guess...  ^^;
Keep in mind "formal training" only means it's backed by a politician's word and we all know what that's worth.

Oh, a fav quote?  Here's one

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554101_274529002683546_894889278_n.jpg)

She does make a fair point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2013, 02:19:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 14, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Friend of mine when I called the guy form fail quotes out on his "If youd on't like it then get involved" bullshit.

QuoteLike I've been saying all along. The two parties enjoy the two-party system and benefits it brings them, and the two parties are the only parties capable of electing officials, therefore nothing will change. Meanwhile the liberals will continue to attack one set of rights, and the conservatives will continue to attack the rest of them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 14, 2013, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 13, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554101_274529002683546_894889278_n.jpg)

She does make a fair point.

Only if the person giving it swallows. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
Made by yours truly.  I have my moments sometimes. :P

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37022455.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 15, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
(http://www.rugusavay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marcus-Tullius-Cicero-Quotes-3.jpg)

This definitely applies today, especially our government and the idiots that run it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
From Patton Oswalt's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/pattonoswalt/posts/10151440800582655):

QuoteI remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2013, 09:01:12 PM
"Government breaks your leg and then hands you a crutch and says 'See?  Without us, you couldn't walk.'" -- Harry Browne.

This one is a classic.  However, because government can't create wealth, a better quote would be:

"Government breaks your leg takes someone else's crutch, hands it to you and says 'See? Without us, you couldn't walk.'"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
I have more.  Courtesy of the Freedom Images thread on the Mises Institute Forum:

(http://i.imgur.com/hS6Gz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lK95f.jpg)

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/32806859.jpg)

And my personal favorite:

(http://i.imgur.com/jIzy1zG.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
And a far less serious one:

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35662562.jpg)

Condescending Wonka + Most Interesting Man In The World
For.  The.  Win.
X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2013, 11:02:27 PM
here's a favorite (not necessarily because they're right)--from FarCry 2, from a character called "the Jackal", who is a bit psychotic, and who is an arms dealer (note: not the same as the historical "Jackal")

On him supposedly doing evil and being "sick" by selling arms:

"I'll tell you what's sick: People in the UK, or the US--Fucking Canada or Sweden--They pay their taxes and some remote piloted drone fires a missile into a public market to hit some warlord. Yeah, so maybe war doesn't happen for another six months, and the price of the Gluten-free Sorghum bread stays low. It's not sick to harm people: it's seek to bump off their crooks and dictators in protection of our interests, and then call it "international Justice". These people don't have remote-piloted drones guarding their interests 10,000 miles away. They don't have a war machine paid for with taxes: where I am, they usually don't even have a fucking government. The done is the oppressor--the Gluten free sorghum bread is the oppressor; the AK-47 is the great equalizer. I empower these people.".

on being asked how he became an arm's dealer:

"Back in the Navy we delivered guns all over the world, dropping off guys with twenty crates of rifles for the local fighters, so that they could knock over some dictator. Mind you, that's not twenty crates of factory made M16's. These were illicit weapons confiscated in some raid, and redistributed. No paperwork, right? If a crate here or there goes missing, hey, it happens. Military teaches you two things: how to deal with Bureaucracy, and how to avoid it. learning how to avoid it means learning how to deal arms. you muster out, you apply what you learned. Every gun-runner I ever met got his start that way: losing illicit weapons in transport with national militaries."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 16, 2013, 12:52:52 AM
From the same thread as surhotchaperchlorome (what does that name mean and how do you pronounce it? that's been bugging me since came here.)

(http://www.wholetruthcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/censor1.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 16, 2013, 07:05:44 AM
My buddy Matt posted this pic on his facebook:
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522063_10151529845267731_1222252322_n.jpg)

But that isn't the only reason I putting this in Fav Quotes. When someone responded to him saying we can't mourn every tragedy and should only focus on local tragedies, he replied with this:
Quote from: Matthew PageExcept for the fact that Media all over the world, like Europe for example, will have their newspapers tomorrow all reporting the "Tragedy in the United States". The fact that within minutes people were blaming the Muslims is disgusting. It turned from a tragedy into a massive political argument. Was it Islamic Terrorists? Or could it be that there was yet another bad seed in the perfect field of flowers that is America? The media are the ones who actually blew this thing out of proportion and the entire world is mourning the few who died and the ones who were injured. But those who died in the Middle East today? The ones who died yesterday? the ones who will die tomorrow? They won't matter. Why? because something happened in America.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 16, 2013, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: D on April 16, 2013, 07:05:44 AM
My buddy Matt posted this pic on his facebook:

Actually over 40 died in Iraq alone in a string of bombings designed to disrupt the elections. It worked: several provinces canceled their elections.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 16, 2013, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 16, 2013, 07:26:20 AM
Actually over 40 died in Iraq alone in a string of bombings designed to disrupt the elections. It worked: several provinces canceled their elections.

Damn. That only makes the point made by the image stronger.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 16, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: tnu on April 16, 2013, 12:52:52 AM
surhotchaperchlorome (what does that name mean and how do you pronounce it? that's been bugging me since came here.)
Sir-Hot-Chaper-Chlorome
Sound it out. :P  And it doesn't have any real meaning.  I stitched it together from the results of a random word generator.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 16, 2013, 04:44:04 PM
[yt]fasTSY-dB-s[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 17, 2013, 04:15:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/X9A7K.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0cIqo.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2013, 06:54:36 AM
"I'm already against Martin's Law. I don't know what they'll put in it, but I do know for sure I'm against it." —Sean Haugh
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 17, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=834_1358832051
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
Oh look!  The anti war crowd!  Where the hell have you people been?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 17, 2013, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
Oh look!  The anti war crowd!  Where the hell have you people been?

Waiting for the second term election to be over. You know, when it no longer matters.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 17, 2013, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 17, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
Oh look!  The anti war crowd!  Where the hell have you people been?

I really do need to ask the same thing when Clinton sent troops to the former Yugoslavia and when he starved thousands of Iraqi children to death then proceeded to bomb them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2013, 06:24:39 PM
On a much much MUCH lighter note:

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So cute. ^_^ I can't stop watching it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 17, 2013, 10:28:04 PM
This one goes out to Hawkeye

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/403441_172937319496854_1407413107_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 18, 2013, 03:55:05 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20370_6-sacred-icons-american-culture-that-arent-even-american.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 18, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
[yt]E-FwdACE2ZY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 18, 2013, 05:35:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/s85L8tE.jpg)
Thought of this as soon as I saw Lord T Hawkeye's video on feminism and tropes.
Really, it says it that well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 18, 2013, 07:05:43 PM
Peace cannot be achieved through violence, it can only be attained through understanding.

Ralph Waldo Emerson
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 18, 2013, 07:33:19 PM
[yt]EZFkt9fIOhY[/yt]

nothing like brutal honesty about how bad the situation is over where I come from.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 19, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
In response to the video I posted in fail quotes, here's Cliffe getting exposed as the idiot he is:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 20, 2013, 08:56:34 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/922904_584497814901365_245673687_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 20, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
https://mises.org/daily/5356 ("The Trojan Horse of 'Happiness Research'" by Thomas J. DiLorenzo)
Woo!  Been a while since I posted one of these. :)

The best part for me is around the beginning where he quotes someone pointing out that actions speak louder than words (The TL;DR version); or rather, that real decisions people make are more important than what they say to get the dick surveying them to piss off.
About time someone pointed that out.  I've never figured out how someone couldn't think that the minute they saw those results.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 20, 2013, 10:32:42 AM
And while I'm at it:

Ludwig von Mises: "In the capitalist society there is a place and bread for all. Its ability to expand provides sustenance for every worker. Permanent unemployment is not a feature of free capitalism." - Socialism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 20, 2013, 05:33:37 PM
[yt]E_BPgG7M1R0[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 20, 2013, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: D on April 20, 2013, 05:33:37 PM
[yt]E_BPgG7M1R0[/yt]

well, someone just earned a subscriber!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 21, 2013, 10:23:16 AM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/le-america-640x1180.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 21, 2013, 06:14:06 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18600_6-laws-that-were-great-paper-and-insane-everywhere-else.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_17216_the-5-most-popular-safety-laws-that-dont-work.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 21, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
On Mike Shanklin's facebook page.



The police state in Boston was a test run that is going to be a staging point to how the government is going to handle things in this country from here on out now that they know everyone is just fine with it they will continue to sell it as a matter of national security and for our safety....do you have any clue how many people came right out and told me they are willing to give up their freedoms so that they feel safe?? There is nothing left that Iam proud of anymore in this country...this country is gone.

-MD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 22, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
I posted in fail quotes about the boy who wore the gun rights shirt to school and mentioned the comments section was full of fail.

Well, I have one comment that was full of win.

In response to a person who claimed that the shirt was insensitive after the shootings in Newtown, the father of the boy who actually wore the shirt to school replied with this:
QuoteI agree with you. I saw ads today for pressure cookers on amazon!!! Don't they have compassion for the victims in Boston!! Matt is my son, he is 18yr old and will be leaving for the Marine Corp Boot Camp in Paris Island 5 days after he graduates in June. The shirt is a simple statement for what he believes in and very soon will be putting his life on the line to defend for you and myself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 23, 2013, 04:19:38 AM
This is how I feel about statists who say "Unless you ahve an alternative to replace government you have no right to criticize!"

(http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ME_431_OfferSolutions-640x199.png)


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2013, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: tnu on April 23, 2013, 04:19:38 AM
This is how I feel about statists who say "Unless you ahve an alternative to replace government you have no right to criticize!"

(http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ME_431_OfferSolutions-640x199.png)

^QFT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 23, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/923189_599915473352700_431622568_n.jpg)

Exactly what I imagined in Obama threw his little temper tantrum.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
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Misleading title is misleading.  Awesome ending.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 23, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
Murika

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/922734_316335791828693_534914350_n.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 23, 2013, 08:19:34 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/317399_10151550143679481_1224853238_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 24, 2013, 04:52:04 PM
well, I just got off the phone with a certain Carl Person (wanted to ask him about litigation: Sallie Mae made a serious mistake. saw his video on YT). he has said a now favorite quote:

"Goldman-Sachs can piss away billions in money today, and declare bankruptcy tomorrow. a cocaine dealer can declare bankruptcy. but a clown like you can't declare bankruptcy. tell me, what is wrong with that?"


me: "everything"

Person: "exactly!"

this guy is now officially the coolest lawyer in the US, that I have met up to this point.

don't know what gives with calling me a clown: I didn't say anything fail. OK, maybe because I "took" the loan... :shrug:
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 24, 2013, 04:53:54 PM
He was probably using it to distinguish you as one of the "little people," as opposed to the Exalted Ones of the oligarchy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 24, 2013, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 24, 2013, 04:53:54 PM
He was probably using it to distinguish you as one of the "little people," as opposed to the Exalted Ones of the oligarchy.

makes sense. he did come across as a libertarian, with what he said about congress' involvement, and how Obama doesn't care: they're in line with what I say anyways. name is familiar too, but I'm not quite sure.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 24, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 24, 2013, 05:22:23 PM
makes sense. he did come across as a libertarian, with what he said about congress' involvement, and how Obama doesn't care: they're in line with what I say anyways. name is familiar too, but I'm not quite sure.

He was one of the candidates seeking the Libertarian Presidential nomination in 2012. He was basically #3 behind Gary Johnson and Lee Wrights.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 24, 2013, 08:09:58 PM
Not political, but funny nonetheless.

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7352670464/hF273D5E5/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on April 24, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/487984_592426307442315_967310539_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 24, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on April 24, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/487984_592426307442315_967310539_n.jpg)

well, if they're going to make hims say those things, why not make him confess that he  is an associate of Fu Manchu?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 25, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/A-handy-FAQ-on-anarchism-and-the-NAP-367698032

Love when I get into a writey mood.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 25, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 25, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/A-handy-FAQ-on-anarchism-and-the-NAP-367698032

Love when I get into a writey mood.  ^^
Me too. ^_^
I see someone in the comments posted a video...they do realize that's a satire of statist criticisms of anarchy, right?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 25, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 25, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
Me too. ^_^
I see someone in the comments posted a video...they do realize that's a satire of statist criticisms of anarchy, right?

I think that's our Shane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 25, 2013, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 25, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
Me too. ^_^
I see someone in the comments posted a video...they do realize that's a satire of statist criticisms of anarchy, right?

That was me, and yes I do. ;)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 25, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
I had heard about SchoolSucks just recently on the Freedomain Radio chatroom. Thanks for that Vid Shane it was prue amazing.

Also this bit form Stef. I keep watching it over and over again because it just resonates so well and explains so much.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 25, 2013, 03:45:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
[yt]QZiarrgcahw[/yt]

Standing ovation!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 26, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 26, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
[yt]QZiarrgcahw[/yt]

Standing ovation!

*wild applause*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 27, 2013, 12:29:13 AM
[yt]xVANRroxuOo[/yt]

Russell means=Win RIP

I have to ask the government why are the native american among some of the poorest in this nation, when they have received the most "help" from you guys?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 27, 2013, 01:56:39 AM
His people's commitment to thei principles here have always astounded me: they could be rich, off the hush money given to them over the black hills. But they have, and still refuse. Their courage continues to amaze me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 27, 2013, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 27, 2013, 12:29:13 AM
I have to ask the government why are the native american among some of the poorest in this nation, when they have received the most "help" from you guys?

And why is that NOT the case with the Lumbee who aren't even recognized by the Federal government (although they are by the state of North Carolina)?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 27, 2013, 09:44:08 AM
And why is that NOT the case with the Lumbee who aren't even recognized by the Federal government (although they are by the state of North Carolina)?

Makes great timing for this quote:  "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

And of course this image: 

(https://lh3.ggpht.com/_otfwl2zc6Qc/SJW0dkDguyI/AAAAAAAAFSY/LyeTC3RjuLk/s400/govt.bmp)
Classic, imho. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
An epic win from Morrakiu in the comments of his video on feminism:

Another Poster:  "'ITS BECAUSE PENIS!'"
Morrakiu's reply: "I think they're right about the Penisocracy though. The government is clearly full of dicks."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 28, 2013, 05:56:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 28, 2013, 07:16:26 PM
gotta love George Takei: he says the coolest things.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 30, 2013, 08:13:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2013, 08:40:39 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 01, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 01, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 06, 2013, 03:29:47 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 06, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f9c3504a2b30e615d3f43f04798d4b64/tumblr_mjyr9fQ0bA1ru0qnao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 06, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 06, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
Same with this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 07, 2013, 06:48:48 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f4d0f8e6d747d502e61ed0913cd99c0f/tumblr_mmejbj61ui1qzi74ro1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 12:25:04 AM
I really dislike Bush, but after seeing how much of a narcissist Obama is, Bush just seems like less of a dick.
Don't get me wrong. He's still a dick.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 08, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 12:25:04 AM
I really dislike Bush, but after seeing how much of a narcissist Obama is, Bush just seems like less of a dick.
Don't get me wrong. He's still a dick.
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I decided Bush wasn't as big a dick as Obama when I saw a video of Obama making jokes about his drone strike program.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 08, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2e8d72466127defe92e128fa165a2da0/tumblr_mm83mg9JvR1sobbjto1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 06:12:14 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 08, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
I decided Bush wasn't as big a dick as Obama when I saw a video of Obama making jokes about his drone strike program.

He actually did that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 06:12:14 PM
He actually did that?

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
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What the Fuck?!?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 09, 2013, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 08, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
What the Fuck?!?

He's a psycho jackoff.  But we already knew that.  (He's a product of the Illinois Democratic Party.  The same outfit that produced the governor who not only tried to AUCTION OBAMA'S VACATED SENATE SEAT, but did it so clumsily he got caught.)

In 2008, it absolutely didn't matter who either party put forward for President, the media was going to have the Democrat win.  That's why they tried to hammer away at the claimed lack of foreign policy experience of the (admittedly somewhat crazy and not overly bright) Sarah Palin (while completely ignoring the absence of foreign policy or any other experience of either of the two Junior Senators the Democrats decided between).  Never mind that the Republicans were putting up a Presidential candidate who actually had several years under his belt as a diplomat (to a country he hardly had fond memories of, either).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 09, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936664_198994653558040_957365075_n.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 09, 2013, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 09, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936664_198994653558040_957365075_n.png)

Fail alert: How can DW be a Bill and Ted ripoff when it predates B&T by 26 years?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 09, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
I think that's the joke Shane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
Warning--very offensive language.

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BartBaker = epic fucking win.
The butthurt is strong with these ones. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 09, 2013, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 09, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
Warning--very offensive language.

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BartBaker = epic fucking win.
The butthurt is strong with these ones. :3

to quote a very wise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Takei) man: this is what is called "the lowest common denominator of Butt-hurt".

and here is a great video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Fucking classic: 

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Really, the best line(s) in the entire video was(were):
"The economy's not a car; there's no engine to stall.  No 'expert' can fix it.  There's no 'it' at all.  The economy is us.  We don't need a mechanic.  Put away the wrenches, the economy is organic!"
and
"People aren't chess men on a board their whimes and desires ignored.  With political incentives, discretion's a joke.  Those dials you're twisting?  Just mirrors and smoke."
True that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2013, 10:07:14 PM
To the people losing debates with smarter anarchists and/or austrian economist folks (Hawkeye, Shane, etc) who wonder why they are getting schooled by people they thought were n00bs, I say, "No, you were never any good to begin with."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 09, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 09, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936664_198994653558040_957365075_n.png)

If someone seriously told me that Gen 1 was better, I would not be pissed off. I would be laughing my flank off!

And then I would respond thusly:

(http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/59a9fa650dba8cff42ed217e1ce70e27/http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee270/Asriel16Asi/My%20Little%20Pony%20Friendship%20is%20Magic/RDs%20Castle%20in%20the%20Sky/Rainbow-Dash-Laughter.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 10, 2013, 01:01:28 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 10, 2013, 02:21:06 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 10, 2013, 07:03:52 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 09, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
BartBaker = epic fucking win.
The butthurt is strong with these ones. :3

Wow, 1D fans homophobic much?

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 10, 2013, 07:18:01 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 09, 2013, 09:43:15 PM
and here is a great video:

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Myles (Silver Cluon Award winner) rules.

He got about as far through that book as I did through Atlas Shrugged.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2013, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 10, 2013, 07:03:52 AM
Wow, 1D fans homophobic much?

IKR?  And here I was worried posting that would get me banned. ^^;
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2013, 08:13:16 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on May 09, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
If someone seriously told me that Gen 1 was better, I would not be pissed off. I would be laughing my flank off!

And then I would respond thusly:

(http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/59a9fa650dba8cff42ed217e1ce70e27/http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee270/Asriel16Asi/My%20Little%20Pony%20Friendship%20is%20Magic/RDs%20Castle%20in%20the%20Sky/Rainbow-Dash-Laughter.png)

oh, shit, dude, you MADE me bring this one out:  (http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/8/7/8/24878.jpg?v=1) :P

And while I'm at it.  (sing-songy) ooh, BlameThe1st!  Look at what came out! (sing-songy)
[yt]RQaisack_jc[/yt]
:P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 10, 2013, 08:32:02 AM
This kid deserves a medal.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2013, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: D on May 10, 2013, 08:32:02 AM
This kid deserves a medal.

[yt]3bYv2AKPZOk[/yt]
And that teacher is a perfect example of what Germans call a "Backpfeifengesicht" (a face badly in need of a fist)
http://www.cracked.com/article_17251_the-10-coolest-foreign-words-english-language-needs.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 10, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 10, 2013, 08:13:16 AM
oh, shit, dude, you MADE me bring this one out:  (http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/8/7/8/24878.jpg?v=1) :P

And while I'm at it.  (sing-songy) ooh, BlameThe1st!  Look at what came out! (sing-songy)
[yt]RQaisack_jc[/yt]
:P

You know, compared to the previous videos, this isn't that bad actually!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
Yeah.  if you really want something awesome, try out this series:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uv_KyoWiE
Not only it is entertaining (and deep given the source material) since it was made by the same guy, it also explains what she was going on about near the end of SWAG.MOV
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 10, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Yet another graph showing how gun violence is a non-issue:

(http://i.imgur.com/Ayj53JB.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 10, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/936584_464049190345772_831632861_n.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 11, 2013, 04:51:42 AM
to be fair, those hats are usualy hand me downs.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 11, 2013, 06:00:21 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 09, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936664_198994653558040_957365075_n.png)

The problem with Problem Sleuth was that it had no consistent plot being the reader driven pile of sick it was.
Did lend a few good callbacks for Homestuck though.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 11, 2013, 10:47:22 AM
I love when people put Bill Maher in his place. Also, Bill Maher is such a child.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 11, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
I just remembered what I wanted to say to you hours ago that I said was "insightful about Europeans"

Many of them--especially in the Euro-trash crowd bitch about Americans only wanting English and talking about how "Well, in Germany it's not uncommon for students to be learning as many as 5-6 different languages in school!"
But really, the answer is simple geography.
Many European countries are small (like, the size of a US state) each with a different language, so of course they'd be more willing/able to learn a language when you can't drive for more than 3 hours in any direction without reaching signs that are in another language.
Now let's look at the USA's borders--Mexico on the south where Spanish is the primary language, and Canada to the north where English--and French--are the primary languages.
And what are the two most common languages by a longshot that people are taking the most classes for?
Spanish and French:  http://www.vistawide.com/languages/us_languages.htm
Funny how that works, no?" -- Me

What can I say?  I have my moments. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 11, 2013, 08:56:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 12, 2013, 12:29:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2013, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from: tnu on May 11, 2013, 08:56:25 PM
[yt]oIeiFheHTOI&list=FLvcDm_QxP2DHVVJzEpS4t0w&index=124[/yt]

Shit, dawg, that's been around for a while now. :P
Still good regardless though. ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2013, 01:56:28 PM
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I cried at the end.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article/158_5-irrational-fears-even-rational-people-have/
this one wins the internet.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 13, 2013, 03:20:16 AM
Somebody form the other boards I frequent psoted this.


(http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/comics/2009-09-14-Menace.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 13, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
What do you call the useless sack of skin around a Republican's vagina? Ann Coulter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 13, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
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Fucking win.
Kudos to my friend for sharing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 13, 2013, 05:23:35 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37792894.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FeatheredTerror on May 14, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
(http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/PiersMorgan-69014.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2013, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: FeatheredTerror on May 14, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
(http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/PiersMorgan-69014.jpg)
Kinda ironic given this:  (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971396_660960983917251_1940321561_n.jpg)
As Dave said to me in AIM:  Hear that crackling?  That's the sound of hell freezing over.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 14, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
"Just so the uneducated can be enlightened... if Romney had gotten all of Johnson's votes, he would have still lost. Stop trying to blame other parties because you can't field electable candidates. I mean, Romney? Get real." —R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2013, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 10, 2013, 02:21:06 AM
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And as I said on Morrakiu's video:

"White"
I'm mixed race.

"Christian"
I'm an atheist.

"Heterosexual"
I'm bisexual.

"Male"
I'll give her that one.  Still, last I checked, 1/4 = 25% = F- which is a fail.

In short feminism is a bullshit, ersatz religion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 14, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
I got 50-75% myself.

(I'm not sure if Palestinians are considered "white". bear in mind my mom's English-American, so if Palestinians aren't considered white, I'm then "mixed-race")

definitely straight, but as I've never had sex in my life, I do not see how I'm guilty of anything: it's not like I exercised my "privilege". (yeah, I admit it. I have no experience).

also male.


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 14, 2013, 09:23:56 PM
Given how we're treated even in enlightened cultures, I'd say atheism covers more than 25% of that equation.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 14, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
White, hetero, and male here.

Fuck, if it weren't for the fact that I'm an atheist, I'd be a flat out serial rapist according to their bullshit logic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 15, 2013, 01:36:32 PM
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Holy shit! A GOOD video from Pat Condell that doesn't make him come off as a bigot and loon?

It's been so long.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 15, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
Well, no one is just a single mask.
Even Hitler was nice to babies, as long as they werent jewish I mean.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 15, 2013, 02:19:45 PM
Here's a fun quote I just heard.

Quote"'Show me who makes a profit from war, and I'll show you how to stop the war.' – Henry Ford"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
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I lol'ed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2013, 12:15:50 AM
"Notice these college feminists talk about empowerment and condemn the patriarchy while that very same patriarchy created the college they attend, pays their tuition through forced taxation of men, gives them jobs paid for by the force taxation of men (where else do wymen studies people work?), gives them hundreds of special agencies forcefully paid for by men, free health care paid for by men. And these women get 100% say with NO responsibility. Heck patriarchy is the best thing to hapen to them" -- P Mason, high rated comment as of this writing from this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064ukK06C-w)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 16, 2013, 02:26:46 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/260450_10152839095110173_807421645_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 16, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
this is a bit of fail, but it is so funny it has become a favorite:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FeatheredTerror on May 16, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601798_350928091697140_698404756_n.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 17, 2013, 12:52:40 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/968997_523519591044294_1081699563_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 17, 2013, 03:30:22 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on May 17, 2013, 12:52:40 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/968997_523519591044294_1081699563_n.jpg)

Becuase FOX has no idea how to handle anythinght at's not The Simpsons. really if there is anything that could be considered a failing of the free market it would be what happened to Firefly.


Also, this gem is rich.


QuoteTraditionally, gold and silver currencies end up being expelled from the market by fiat currencies because of the difference in value between the two.

People realise that, for example, copper coins have the same purchasing power as gold so they use this for everyday spending. Meanwhile, gold and silver coin was horded for 'savings' purposes, and ended up leaving the market. There are examples of this in many XV, XVI and XVII century european countries. (Spanish maravedí, for example)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 17, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/cartoons/images/2013/05/15/gary_varvel_new_gary_varvel_for_05152013.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 17, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Kane (http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2013/05/03/366-kane/) on Lew Rockwell's podcast.

Kane was always one of my favorite wrestlers, but the fact that he's also a libertarian gives him a permanent spot in my Fav Five for all time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 17, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
figured blamethe1st would love (or hate) this:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 17, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
I'm sure I've posted this before buuuuut....

More libertarian Kane.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 18, 2013, 12:46:30 AM
Quote from: D on May 17, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
I'm sure I've posted this before buuuuut....

More libertarian Kane.
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some fail in it though for example:

@ 2:37: we use all of our brain, not 10%: granted, we don't use it all to think with, but nonetheless the whole brain is used, and most of the brain's parts have known functions.. I simply don't understand where people get this idea from.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 18, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
Take that Sarkeesian and Feminist Frequency

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[yt]6MQuEjiU2KQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 18, 2013, 09:04:33 AM
You know, I remember back when all the anti-porn people were right-wing moral majority theocrats and, of course, every good left-wing liberal opposed them.

Until, you know, it was to their advantage to go anti-porn themselves.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2013, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 18, 2013, 09:04:33 AM
You know, I remember back when all the anti-porn people were right-wing moral majority theocrats and, of course, every good left-wing liberal opposed them.

Until, you know, it was to their advantage to go anti-porn themselves.

Seems they're both against using your genitalia unless it's for state approved pro-creation.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 18, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 17, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
figured blamethe1st would love (or hate) this:

[yt]0QCeIp88wEw[/yt]

Then why does the video show Swetie Bell?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 18, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
heck if I know--though to level with you I can't tell them apart, this not being of interest to me :shrug:

it's clear I need to research this more, just so I don't create another awkward incident.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 19, 2013, 12:02:32 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/why-my-little-pony-about-to-get-even-creepier/
AW LAWDIE!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 19, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
not 100% win, but damn these two articles are awesome:


[spoiler]
Quote from: Aziza Al-MufarrejOnce, during a meeting at the Ministry of Electricity and Water, a person raised a question about why full salary was being paid to 200 employees who were not even aware of their official working hours at the ministry. A high ranking official answered that there indeed was such a problem but it was the responsibility of the concerned undersecretaries and directors, and their conscience should force them to rectify the situation.

Coming from a leader, such a response not only underlined that we are forced to live with this problem, but it also showed that we had no desire to resolve it once and for all.

Otherwise, is it realistic to depend on only people's conscience when it comes to displaying commitment and sincerity in their work, or to rely on their sense of religiosity?

What if someone's conscience had taken a permanent leave of absence? What if someone's sense of religion was weaker than the web woven by a spider?

Then are we supposed to rest our oars and only pray to Allah that things become better?

Should we simply accept that there is no possibility to improve things?

Must we shut our eyes towards a lax employee who does not even know what his job is?

Or another who sleeps peacefully at home after making one of the expatriates agree to carry out his duties?

Should we overlook someone whose work is pathetically slow or who does not perform properly because he is in a foul mood?

Can we ignore an employee who comes directly to work after spending a long night in the diwaniya, and deals with people as if he is standing guard at a sewer opening?

Should we ignore a selfish employee who goes missing from his work 30 minutes before he is to leave, all because he wants to pursue his interest in the stock exchange, or to tend to private matters or refresh his mood by making a visit to a cafÈ or a mall?

Why should we have to do any of this? I am talking here in response to what the concerned official had to say.

They have to take steps that will change the employees' view towards work and its value. Coming from an official about things being in such a sorry state of affairs, it is clear that we need to quickly salvage whatever can be saved. We should be taking the initiative, like others, to solve the problems quickly instead of leaving them to linger and accumulate at the expense of our interests and nerves.

The employees who hate work and commitment are there in any country, and Kuwait is no exception. The only difference is that other countries do not let a state of laissez faire continue and instead hold such employees to account. Let us not go too far looking for examples.

The UAE is next door and it too has similar circumstances, but we do not see such a state of affairs in the employment system there. The reason is very simple: supervision ensures that things are not left to accidents. There is a keen focus on good work in the UAE. The concept of the "secret shopper" helps in ensuring that as it is used to catch malingering employees and workers. Such specially appointed employees frequent the working places pretending to be ordinary citizens who have a certain interest. They judge through such a method the others' performance and commitment levels.

This is one of the reasons the UAE enjoys an outstanding status in many fields, in which it received international prizes. As for us, we are still captive to unfair Wasta culture and the excuse that someone is right because "this is our son." No wonder, we are always in the back row. — Al-Watan
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[spoiler]
Quote from: Badrya DarwishWhat do I benefit as a Kuwaiti from the government's sudden savage harassment and attack against expats in the country? I have the right to know if it is in my interest. Does that bring me more money? Does it flourish the economy of the country by kicking expats out? Does it solve the unemployment amongst us Kuwaitis? Definitely no.

Let's face it: the kinds of jobs expats are doing are not our primary target. Why the crazy campaign which everybody has been noticing for four weeks now? It is done to legalize matters. There is difference between legalizing and taking care of the security in any country. All of a sudden the Ministry of Social Affairs and Labour and Ministry of Interior are at war. It seems they are everywhere and they chase expats. Daily the ministry is issuing the number of violators who have been deported.

What an accomplishment! You should be proud of yourselves, guys. It looks like people who are sitting in the ministries do not own businesses themselves and they do not know what harm is done to the market by this sudden attack and chasing of expats, as if they are all criminals. The funniest part is that they are boasting about it by informing us daily on the deportation numbers. But surprisingly, no company or person was punished that brought these souls into Kuwait, took a handsome amount for himself and threw them to wander illegally in the country. Of course, they will not tell us about these people because they have wasta and are influential.

Let's talk about the ministry that calls for the deportation of "marginal labour". If they understand the word correctly, this kind of labour is important for any country. If the country is emptied of this labour, all of us will cry when unable to paint our house or fix something. If I need a plumber, do I need to go and recruit a plumber on my sponsorship from a foreign country – be it Bangladesh, India or Pakistan? If anyone needs household matters to be fixed at home, we need labourers.

The porters in the co-op, the airport? Are they all marginal? Can the airport do without them? Can the co-op serve without the porters filling our bags and pulling our trolleys to our cars? Can schools be cleaned without all these janitors (commonly known as farash or farasha)? Can hospitals survive without them? Can any office run without an office boy to make chai (tea) and clean? Can any company run its business without security people?

Can you explain what exactly is the marginal labour you target to kick out? Or maybe because you do not have businesses and you do not care. You just try to convince us that you are more loyal to the country than us and that you are more patriotic by kicking out marginal labour out of Kuwait. This would harm businesses. Can we do without taxi drivers? Or are these also marginal jobs? Are the drivers who drive the buses which 50 percent of expats rely for transportation, called marginal labour too? How about the drivers who take our kids to school?

Do we not need them anymore? Can you call us, the people who have businesses and discuss it with us, because it has an impact on our operations. We are not government employees. Our salaries are not secured in the banks in the end of the month. It is easy for you to sit and invent new rules without properly studying their impact on the country. Are you trying to convince us that unemployment among Kuwaitis can be solved by doing all of that? There is a thin line between harassment and legalizing and organizing the labour force.
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these two women IMHO deserve silver cluons: they have the guts to call out their own government's incompetence, bigotry, and demogoguery. They are willing to stand up for people they don't know, who are not Kuwaiti like themselves, against the increasing evil of the government. they simply put, have more balls than the Kuwaiti men--and more integrity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 20, 2013, 12:08:35 AM
I would but large Fluttershy plush's are WAY to expensive.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 20, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
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Hawkeye does it again!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 21, 2013, 02:41:23 AM
From that video alone I have to applaud my favorite sentiment.

"Trolls do not discriminate".






Employers are not trying to impose their morals on employees. If an employee is engaging in pre-marital sex, that is there own business. If they choose to have an abortion, that is also their own business. Said employee should take responsibility and pay for their "own business" and not require the employer to violate their own convictions by having them fund it. Take the pay you have earned from the job provided by your employer and go buy your own morning after pills.

From a different video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 21, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Angry Joe's rant on the Xbox One reveal is win.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 21, 2013, 06:44:59 PM
Quote from: D on May 21, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Angry Joe's rant on the Xbox One reveal is win.

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Doesn't surprise me in the least. I paid perfectly good money for Windows and Microsoft STILL wants to charge me for support.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 22, 2013, 06:12:32 PM
Another great rant on Xbox One.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 22, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 22, 2013, 10:22:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2SvxTN6.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 23, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
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Yay!  New video from Shane! :D
I think this one was XCKD inspired, artistically speaking.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 23, 2013, 09:44:11 PM
Mises was the fucking man!

Ludwig von Mises: "Freedom and liberty always mean freedom from police interference." - Planned Chaos

You paying attention, conservatives?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 24, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
Not exactly a fan of "Honest" Abe, but...

(http://i.imgur.com/tPIKEmf.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 24, 2013, 04:38:27 PM
CNN Reporter: "You were quite rude to the President"

Medea Benjamin: "I think killing innocent people with drones is rude."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2013, 02:20:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GehRrGj.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 25, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: D on May 24, 2013, 04:38:27 PM
CNN Reporter: "You were quite rude to the President"

Medea Benjamin: "I think killing innocent people with drones is rude."

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 02:04:20 PM
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I wish the mainstream media would just tell the truth.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2013, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 02:04:20 PM
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I wish the mainstream media would just tell the truth.

Kinda puts a new perspective on Pat Condell's videos of him throwing a tantrum about Muslims being angry/whiny in the UK, no?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
it does--though not the way he'd intended...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2013, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
it does--though not the way he'd intended...
well, yeah.  That's kinda my point. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 03:26:26 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 26, 2013, 03:24:22 PM
well, yeah.  That's kinda my point. :P

I know you know. It just had to be said though  ;)

frankly though, the guy's style of killing the Tommy reminded me of what they do in the Congo or Sierra Leon. disturbing stuff.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 26, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 26, 2013, 02:04:20 PM
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I wish the mainstream media would just tell the truth.

No shit. These people also seem to think that Islam is one single entity. They honestly think that every individual Muslim from every single individual sects of Sunni, Shia, nondenominational, reformist etc are out to take over the world.

They believe that even the Sufis want to blow up buildings.

I mean seriously it is nuts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2013, 12:58:30 AM
Condell has actually made it clear he's not talking about all muslims.  He has said that he actually gets a lot of fan mail from muslims, specifically the ones who just want to live their lives and are sick and tired of the psychos making them look bad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 27, 2013, 02:05:15 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 27, 2013, 12:58:30 AM
Condell has actually made it clear he's not talking about all muslims.  He has said that he actually gets a lot of fan mail from muslims, specifically the ones who just want to live their lives and are sick and tired of the psychos making them look bad.

I guess those are from more liberal/moderate/reformist sects of Islam, basically non salafi/wahhabi. Those two are some of the most, if not the most strict versions of Sunni Islam. Anyone know if there is a Shia equivalent of salafi/wahhabis? 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
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:D :D :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 28, 2013, 11:36:42 AM
love it or leave it summarized:

If u don't like the mafia, move out of the neighborhood. but you can't take anything with you. and it will take years. and there's no neighborhood without a mafia.

-Stefan Molyneux
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on May 28, 2013, 11:52:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ydRLVjD.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2013, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 28, 2013, 11:52:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ydRLVjD.jpg)

Many of said countries (the USA, UK, etc) have killed many of them, thus provoking them in the first place.  Still doesn't excuse the use of violence/government from them though.

EDIT: Yay! 3400 posts! :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on May 28, 2013, 03:30:09 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2013, 07:20:33 PM
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Fucking classic!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 28, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
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QuoteThis school is basically saying tacitly that they do not want their students to know about the Constitution. They don't want students to be aware of the rights that they have. And why wouldn't they want the students to be aware? There's only one reason: because people who are aware of their rights are a lot harder to SQUEEing control.

The powerful people in this country, the people who really control everything, of course they have a vested interest of keeping people ignorant of their rights. If you grow the population large enough of people who just don't understand their rights, don't understand what their rights are, or why they are in place, or what the history of them is, or what situations they are meant to imply in, if people are walking around with total ignorance of that sort of thing, then the powers that be can pretty much do whatever they want. Because if people aren't aware of their rights, then their rights really don't exist.

Which, of course, reminds me of this classic from George Carlin:

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QuoteThere's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. That's right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 28, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
I didn't think TJ was capable of such an insight :T
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2013, 08:43:15 PM
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Very catchy.  Gotta love satire and parody. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 28, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 28, 2013, 08:43:15 PM
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Very catchy.  Gotta love satire and parody. :3

I just went onto the YouTube page and THIS was the top quote:

QuoteWow, seriously get a life.

The Bible/Christianity is the biggest scam since ever.

Fuck religion.

That belongs in fail quotes. Seriously, berating people for their personal beliefs? Who needs to get a life again?

No offense to any of my atheists friends here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 28, 2013, 09:43:56 PM
I take no offense 1st

We need to tell people why they are wrong instead of just saying they are wrong ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 28, 2013, 09:49:11 PM
Hey man. So logn as your interested in the cause of liberty I don't care what you believe in. Love and tolerate. Though, I don't mean this maliciously but I find it interesting that a devout Christian would frequent a skeptic board. Just seemd odd to me personally but again no insult meant.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on May 28, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
I just went onto the YouTube page and THIS was the top quote:

That belongs in fail quotes. Seriously, berating people for their personal beliefs? Who needs to get a life again?

No offense to any of my atheists friends here.

It was the top-most quote, but not the highest rated.  Yeah, I guess he didn't release that was a parody...like roughly half the bloody commenters. >_<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 29, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=statist
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 29, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on May 29, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=statist

All of my yes
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 30, 2013, 08:03:48 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on May 28, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
I didn't think TJ was capable of such an insight :T

I didn't think George Carlin was capable of such insight, either.  (He usually came off as just another Democrat shill.  A FUNNY one, but a shill just the same.  Sort of what Coughlan would be like if he was a standup comedian.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 30, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
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Love Penn's bit at the end
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on May 30, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
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Love Penn's bit at the end
mhm.  And yeah, Greenpeace blows.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
And, speaking of Greenpeace:  http://www.cracked.com/article/158_5-irrational-fears-even-rational-people-have/
The last three on that list are epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 30, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 08, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
I decided Bush wasn't as big a dick as Obama when I saw a video of Obama making jokes about his drone strike program.
Can you imagine if Bush did something like that?  Liberals/Democrats should be shitting themselves with righteous fury!  But since Obama did...nothing, not a peep from these guys...
Title: Ten Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 30, 2013, 11:15:25 PM
https://mises.org/daily/5076 ("Ten Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery" by Robbert Higgs)
So much win.
(Read the FULL article before saying something you'll regret. ;) )

And while I'm at it:
Ludwig von Mises: "Continued adherence to a policy of compulsory education is utterly incompatible with efforts to establish lasting peace." - Liberalism
Title: Re: Ten Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery
Post by: evensgrey on May 31, 2013, 08:38:55 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on May 30, 2013, 11:15:25 PM
https://mises.org/daily/5076 ("Ten Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery" by Robbert Higgs)
So much win.
(Read the FULL article before saying something you'll regret. ;) )

And while I'm at it:
Ludwig von Mises: "Continued adherence to a policy of compulsory education is utterly incompatible with efforts to establish lasting peace." - Liberalism

It becomes obvious immediately what he's doing it you're paying attention.  Nobody quotes Lincoln's racist statements without arguing against one of the worst 19th century US Presidents.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 31, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
Heroes and Villains (http://imgur.com/gallery/h2my0)

It's nothing philosophical or political. Just a good read with a funny ending.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 31, 2013, 03:18:33 PM
On the flip side of that shitty movie trailer I posted in Fail Quotes, here's Larken Rose giving his thoughts on that movie.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 31, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
if you think critically one can realize that its actually the state that allows and supports the purge rather than it being a case of statlessness.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2013, 03:33:56 PM
So I Googled "Ancapbronies" and clicked on a facebook link and found this:

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/935328_460716994003798_1295612985_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 31, 2013, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: D on May 31, 2013, 03:18:33 PM
On the flip side of that shitty movie trailer I posted in Fail Quotes, here's Larken Rose giving his thoughts on that movie.

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I really need to ask them if the only reason that they don't go raping and killing is because they fear punishment from government.

This reminds me of creationist saying that they only do good because god might punish them.

I believe this would make them Psychopaths/Sociopaths?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2013, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on May 31, 2013, 04:22:18 PM
I really need to ask them if the only reason that they don't go raping and killing is because they fear punishment from government.

This reminds me of creationist saying that they only do good because god might punish them.

I believe this would make them Psychopaths/Sociopaths?

Absolutely.  Same logic, really.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2013, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on May 27, 2013, 02:05:15 AM
I guess those are from more liberal/moderate/reformist sects of Islam, basically non salafi/wahhabi. Those two are some of the most, if not the most strict versions of Sunni Islam. Anyone know if there is a Shia equivalent of salafi/wahhabis?

just noticed this--figured I'd share the lulz:

the ghulat? yeah, they're pretty famous (or infamous). their extremism is mostly theological though (save the last one: their more like what you'd expect). the really crazy (physically) sects have either been of the khawarij or the Sunnis. Shi'ism must be counted as the most lenient sect among those still around--even counting the stuff in Iran today.

The ghulat themselves are largely extinct AFAIK. some pretty interesting beliefs though:

1-bazighiyya: believe that Ja'far as-sadiq was God.
2-dhammiyya (lit. blamerism or haterism): Ali b. abi talib was God, Muhammad was the messenger.
3-ghurabiyya (lit. ravenism): most common one: believed Gabriel fucked up, by sending revelations to Muhammad instead of Ali. They attribute this to some perceived identical traits between the two, such that they were to the ghurabis as two ravens (hence the name).
4-ya'furiyya: some dude from Kufa was God, and that he ordained everything was to be cyclical (like Hinduism, complete with reincarnation).
5-Kaysaniyya: think of a version of Islam that is trinitarian. with the father being God, the son being Muhammad ibn al-hanafiyyah, and the other son was Ali b. abi talib. a sub-section of them called "khorasaniyya", add a fourth person.
6-Hurufiyya (lit. "Letterism"): Shi'ite Panentheism, believing God's essence was in every atom. Nuqtawiyya (lit. "pointism") shi'ites are a sub-set who give a cyclical timeline to the universe (w/o reincarnation).
7-Soldiers of heaven: bat-shit people who wanted to kill everyone and everything not them, in order to bring back the 12th imam and usher in the apocalypse (kinda like some strains of fundamentalist Christianity). believed some dude named Dia' abd uz-zahra' was the Imam. they were active in Iraq during the insurgency.


compare that to these specimens: first, the Khawarij:

1-the azariqah (lit. "blue ones"): these were active in the Umayyad period. believed sinning, no matter how trivial, automatically made you a non-believer, and eligible for the death penalty. yeah, I wish I was making this shit up.


and the Sunnies:

1-wahhabiyya: you guys know this one.
2-Qutbiyya: this is what people often call "salafi", but is in fact a subset of the salafiyya (which I don't consider inherently extreme as a whole, due to the diversity of forms).
3-certain Islamic fundamentalists: these do not fall into a special sect or sub-section, as they come from otherwise more lenient jurisprudence (e.g. Hamas are IIRC traditionally Shafi'i, whilst those from Aceh are Maliki).


of course, when discussing these, one must remember that Islam in modern times (post 1920) is a more conservative religion as a whole than Christianity or Judaism, or even what it was in the past. this is due to a variety of factors, which would make this post too long.


As to Pat Condell? I mostly have issues with his line of reasoning on what's going on in Europe and America (some of which would be contradicted by that machete wielding tosser), as well as his absurd and one sided view on the Palestinian/Israeli problem (a problem I have with anyone who is entirely one sided for either Palestinians or Israelis). I cannot judge the truth of his statement about fan mail and who he refers to, though with some of the crap he's said....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 31, 2013, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2013, 05:06:06 PM
just noticed this--figured I'd share the lulz:

the ghulat? yeah, they're pretty famous (or infamous). their extremism is mostly theological though (save the last one: their more like what you'd expect). the really crazy (physically) sects have either been of the khawarij or the Sunnis. Shi'ism must be counted as the most lenient sect among those still around--even counting the stuff in Iran today.

The ghulat themselves are largely extinct AFAIK. some pretty interesting beliefs though:

1-bazighiyya: believe that Ja'far as-sadiq was God.
2-dhammiyya (lit. blamerism or haterism): Ali b. abi talib was God, Muhammad was the messenger.
3-ghurabiyya (lit. ravenism): most common one: believed Gabriel fucked up, by sending revelations to Muhammad instead of Ali. They attribute this to some perceived identical traits between the two, such that they were to the ghurabis as two ravens (hence the name).
4-ya'furiyya: some dude from Kufa was God, and that he ordained everything was to be cyclical (like Hinduism, complete with reincarnation).
5-Kaysaniyya: think of a version of Islam that is trinitarian. with the father being God, the son being Muhammad ibn al-hanafiyyah, and the other son was Ali b. abi talib. a sub-section of them called "khorasaniyya", add a fourth person.
6-Hurufiyya (lit. "Letterism"): Shi'ite Panentheism, believing God's essence was in every atom. Nuqtawiyya (lit. "pointism") shi'ites are a sub-set who give a cyclical timeline to the universe (w/o reincarnation).
7-Soldiers of heaven: bat-shit people who wanted to kill everyone and everything not them, in order to bring back the 12th imam and usher in the apocalypse (kinda like some strains of fundamentalist Christianity). believed some dude named Dia' abd uz-zahra' was the Imam. they were active in Iraq during the insurgency.


compare that to these specimens: first, the Khawarij:

1-the azariqah (lit. "blue ones"): these were active in the Umayyad period. believed sinning, no matter how trivial, automatically made you a non-believer, and eligible for the death penalty. yeah, I wish I was making this shit up.


and the Sunnies:

1-wahhabiyya: you guys know this one.
2-Qutbiyya: this is what people often call "salafi", but is in fact a subset of the salafiyya (which I don't consider inherently extreme as a whole, due to the diversity of forms).
3-certain Islamic fundamentalists: these do not fall into a special sect or sub-section, as they come from otherwise more lenient jurisprudence (e.g. Hamas are IIRC traditionally Shafi'i, whilst those from Aceh are Maliki).


of course, when discussing these, one must remember that Islam in modern times (post 1920) is a more conservative religion as a whole than Christianity or Judaism, or even what it was in the past. this is due to a variety of factors, which would make this post too long.


As to Pat Condell? I mostly have issues with his line of reasoning on what's going on in Europe and America (some of which would be contradicted by that machete wielding tosser), as well as his absurd and one sided view on the Palestinian/Israeli problem (a problem I have with anyone who is entirely one sided for either Palestinians or Israelis). I cannot judge the truth of his statement about fan mail and who he refers to, though with some of the crap he's said....

pretty diverse beliefs
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
"Money management is only tricky if you think money should be managed."--djsherin in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=EtF_zbI5j7M&threaded=1&page=4)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 01, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: some German comedian who grew up in the third Reich.uh eeh! eech-unh! uga oich eech! eh up-op....That's what it sounded like to me, so of course I copied them. It didn't make me popular with my Hitler youth leaders, but what else could you do, except make fun of it? You had no idea what they wanted, so when they said "Left! Right!", "Left! Right", it sounded like "Death! Die! Death! Die!"--it was hilarious! The military's Hilarious anyway!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2013, 07:33:18 PM
Thanks to Hawkeye for making me aware of this:

[spoiler]"If Winston did an article about women...

5) You Want Something from a Romantic Partner You Should Be Getting Somewhere Else

You want to have more self-esteem? You'd better get it from achieving something in life, because that's not the job of your future partner. Men are not you emotional tampons or your source of validation and men are not someone who will fix you if you a total wreck.

4) You're Looking for an Endorsement of Your Single Life

You are pushing 40, and have a large collection of cats. Or maybe you know all the clubs in your town by heart. Approximately 77 percent of your dating profile is a massive itemized list of things you do or do not want in a man. You're looking for a cheerleader for your big pile of Single Person Stuff, but you have that pile BECAUSE you're single. This makes you for some reason very likely to invade Poland.

3) You Don't See Other People as People

If you ever told someone you are 146 times taller than you actually are, chances are that you are starring in the Honey, I shrunk the kids series. You don't see men as people, which is why you think you can say hurtful crap of the kind you'd never say about any other group and still expect them to come back for more. Like everyone else, you've probably grown up watching a lot of movies, and the thing about movies is that the stories that offer the most escapism by nature give you the least accurate picture of the real world. These movies are known as romantic comedies. Only in them can a hunk of a person take all a manner of abuse from the main heroine, including physical violence for perceived slights, and still end up with her at the end of the movie. If you don't treat men with the most basic respect you'll end up with only one of the two types of man: an abusive jerk, or a wimp. Something you're clearly not doing already, because you have the dating profile of the heroine, the protagonist, the One True Human, who is intrinsically attractive without having to grow as a person.

2) You're a Genuinely Bad Person and Deserve to Die Alone in Mustard-Stained Sweatpants

There is of course that special set of people who ... suck. Do you think that men are all conniving bastards who oppress you in a grand conspiracy called the patriarchy? Do you think everyone who differs from you in even minor ways, like say the genitals between their legs, is by nature subhuman? Are you looking for a glorified trained puppy dog as opposed to a romantic partner because you essentially hate human beings? Do you boast that having more power means a greater ability to hurt men or that men are only good for f*cking and being run over by a truck? Have fun with that Russian spambot since evil people never get laid and are always destined to die alone.

1) Being ''used''.

Let's not beat around the bush: If you have ever cried about "being used for sex" unironically, then I'm afraid you're not ready to participate in society. Oh, we'd love to have you, but with the lineup we've got, we can't see you making it off the bench. For those blissfully ignorant of the concept, the being used is that unbearable set of circumstances in which a person of the opposite sex is ... having sex with you! As if life wasn't hard enough already, now you have ALL THESE GODDAMN SEX PARTNERS.

Sex is an endgame state, with a little flag and triumphant music and anywhere from one to six fireworks, depending on how long it took to complete the stage. And romance? That's the secret bonus level -- and if it wasn't, more people would have f*****g found it. So when another person wants to have sex with you, it's absurd to presume that the two of you are moving in the exact wrong direction.

If sex isn't good enough, then what else isn't good enough? Is it ... everything? I hope not. Work on being everyone's cumbucket for now, and then (surprise) maybe you'll find you become the kind of person whose dating profile is that of someone who genuinely seems mature and well-liked. What do you have to lose, other than a ''reputation'' or ''self-esteem''?" --XIO666, comments of the linked article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-your-online-dating-profile-isnt-working_p2/)[/spoiler]

Another he shared was that of manwomanmyth on youtube.  I'm not actually subbed to this, so I can't cite the specific videos, but thought I'd at least share the following from the AIM convo:
"Had a series on 'Irresponsible mothers'
Calling women to task for having children with men they know were not committed to fatherhood yet try to play the victim card, having children for selfish reasons, and women who do drugs while pregnant and yet even they manage to get sympathy.  'Where we would arrest men, we merely shake our heads at best at female misbehavior.'"
But the best was this bit from him:
"Showed this interview with this fellow who when presented with some women saying 'Why are there no good men?' he told them exactly why
'Because you have a bad attitude and good men want nothing to do with you'"
Hits the nail on the head really.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: VectorM on April 07, 2013, 10:46:46 AM
OMG, dude, seriously, this SEXIST shit again? NAFALT! NAFALT!

"I personally don't accept the 'Not All Feminists Are Like That!'/'vocal minority' excuse for one simple reason.
If that truly is the case, where are all the 'real' feminists shouting these idiots down? If fair minded feminists with working brains really exist, their silence is deafening." -- Lord T Hawkeye, in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eozsXy9K_vo)

Unless you were saying so 'ironically' or sarcastically, in which case, nvm. :P  Still a good quote from Hawkeye (the NAFALT bit added by me. :3).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 01, 2013, 09:57:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Xk6SrSK.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 02, 2013, 07:38:02 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s480x480/292447_496853690385756_1174842840_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 02, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
"Neo-conservatives are just ex-Trotskyist commies. They all suck." --deathtotyrants76 (Militant-Mike1), top rated comment of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCe6p7zhR5o)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 02, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/944361_475383095877397_585911987_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 02, 2013, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 02, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/944361_475383095877397_585911987_n.jpg)

Yet she has armed bodyguards to protect her. I don't why my fellow Californians just does not get it through their thick skulls she is not worth voting for. Frustrating ain't it. A libertarian in a sea of dumbasses.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 02, 2013, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on June 02, 2013, 10:31:07 PM
Yet she has armed bodyguards to protect her. I don't why my fellow Californians just does not get it through their thick skulls she is not worth voting for. Frustrating ain't it. A libertarian in a sea of dumbasses.
You live in California?  So sorry for your pain.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 02, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 02, 2013, 11:01:02 PM
You live in California?  So sorry for your pain.

Yup, I live in Los Angeles County. The only redeeming thing about my state is probably Universal Studios, Knotts and Disneyland LOL.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 02, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
well, for the record skm1091, I feel sorry for you, and anyone else who has to deal with California. The sooner plate tectonics do their job, the better.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 02, 2013, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 02, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
well, for the record skm1091, I feel sorry for you, and anyone else who has to deal with California. The sooner plate tectonics do their job, the better.

Pretty much. What state do you have deal with? Out of the states mine is probably one of the worst if not THE worst LOL.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 03, 2013, 03:33:07 AM
"You're clealry not opposed to robbig me at gunpoint but not even you would shoot an unarmed man. It's simple logic!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 03, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
"The agnostic/atheist debate is the equivalent of the minarchist/anarchist debate: Self congratulating semantical circle jerks full of obnoxious verbosity that is a complete waste of time." —The Skeptical Libertarian
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2013, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
"The agnostic/atheist debate is the equivalent of the minarchist/anarchist debate: Self congratulating semantical circle jerks full of obnoxious verbosity that is a complete waste of time." —The Skeptical Libertarian
Because something that overlaps is like something that is mutually exclusive and we need to work together! Just like we do for the conspiracy wing! Oh wait.  Yeah, that belongs is fail quotes.
Really, it's more like minarchism--deism/weak theism, and anarchism atheism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2013, 01:51:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
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This is pretty good, especially for something fan-made.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 03, 2013, 03:35:20 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s480x480/7096_523735101009175_1691410636_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on June 03, 2013, 06:15:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 03, 2013, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 03, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
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This is pretty good, especially for something fan-made.

That's nice. But this one is far better:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 04, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
Tom Woods (http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/the-question-libertarians-just-cant-answer/) wrecking the shit out of that terrible Salon article about the "unanswerable question."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 05, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20454_5-scary-myths-you-probably-believe-about-economy.html
I only read the list item titles.  From that, it would seem 5-3 are win, and 2 and 1 are fail.  Eh, not too bad, I guess.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 05, 2013, 09:59:24 AM
Allot of comments are fail tho
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 05, 2013, 10:09:53 AM
@AnCapBrony--Not surprising in the least.  The comments are always a crapshoot at best, to "OH GOD! MY BRAIN IS MELTING FROM THE SHEER STUPIDITY!" at worst.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 05, 2013, 04:17:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 05, 2013, 07:13:01 PM
"corporation

n. an organization formed with state governmental approval to act as an artificial person to carry on business (or other activities), which can sue or be sued, and (unless it is non-profit) can issue shares of stock to raise funds with which to start a business or increase its capital. One benefit is that a corporation's liability for damages or debts is limited to its assets, so the shareholders and officers are protected from personal claims, unless they commit fraud. For private business corporations the articles of incorporation filed with the Secretary of State of the incorporating state must include certain information, including the name of the responsible party or parties (incorporators and agent for acceptance of service), the amount of stock it will be authorized to issue, and its purpose. In some states the purpose may be a general statement of any purpose allowed by law, while others require greater specificity. Corporation shareholders elect a board of directors, which in turn adopts bylaws, chooses the officers and hires top management (which in smaller corporations are often the directors and/or shareholders). Annual meetings are required of both the shareholders and the board, and major policy decisions must be made by resolution of the board (which often delegates much authority to officers and committees). Issuance of stock of less than $300,000, with no public solicitation and relatively few shareholders, is either automatically approved by the state commissioner of corporations or requires a petition outlining the financing. Some states are considered lax in supervision, have low filing fees and corporate taxes and are popular incorporation states, but corporations must register with Secretaries of State of other states where they do substantial business as a "foreign" corporation. Larger stock offerings and/or those offered to the general public require approval by the Securities and Exchange Commission after close scrutiny and approval of a public "prospectus" which details the entire operation of the corporation. There are also non-profit (or not for profit) corporations organized for religious, educational, charitable or public service purposes. Public corporations are those formed by a municipal, state or federal government for public purposes such as operating a dam and utility project. A close corporation is made up of a handful of shareholders with a working or familial connection which is permitted to operate informally without resolutions and regular board meetings. A de jure corporation is one that is formally operated under the law, while a de facto corporation is one which operates as if it were legal, but without the articles of incorporation being valid. Corporations can range from the Corner Mini-Mart to General Electric." -- The definition of "corporation" from an actual Legal Dictionary definition of Corporation (http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=358)

TL;DR version:  Corporations are a creation of the state.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 06, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
More win from The Skeptical Libertarian:

"My father asked me awhile ago why I hate the government. He said I shouldn't. He said, "The government has been very nice to you; you went to a city school where you got government loans, you take public transportation, you've collected unemployment insurance. The government has given you a lot and you show no appreciation for this. Why do you hate them? What has the state ever done to you? They've done (and given) more to you then most people have so why the hate?"

This is a fair question and also a sad and selfish one. I'm not going to answer what the state has done to me personally to make me hate them because that is irrelevant. My father might not bite the hand that feeds him but I would if the hand slaps other people around.

The reason I hate the state isn't because what they have done to me. I'm not a selfish son of a bitch. If I knew a person who was nice to me, complimented me, showered me with gifts but was a bully to others, I wouldn't like that person either. The state doesn't have to do anything to me personally for me to hate them.

Charles Manson didn't do anything to me personally either and suppose for the sake of argument Charles Manson took a liking to me and treated me nice, would my opinion of Manson change? No, because only a bastard cares about how a person treats him instead of how a person treats others.

I hate the state for the millions they have imprisoned for victimless crimes, for the money they stole through taxation and inflation, for dumbing down people and making them cogs in a machine (what is called, "mainstreaming"). I have empathy for all the millions suffered by the hands of the state and it's an absurdity for me to say, "Who cares about all the people the state has hurt as long as they give me stuff (that was taken from others) and are "nice" to me, why should I care.

Hitler was nice to Eva Braun but Ms. Braun was not a nice person for loving someone who caused others so much pain.

So why do I hate the state? Because they hurt, bully, kill, steal, lie, and torture other people and I can't be bribed by saying, "Treat me "nice" and give me stuff and I will ignore the pain you cause others."

I find it sad that my father has such a view and insulting that he thinks I'm that self-centered."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 06, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
More win from The Skeptical Libertarian:

"My father asked me awhile ago why I hate the government. He said I shouldn't. He said, "The government has been very nice to you; you went to a city school where you got government loans, you take public transportation, you've collected unemployment insurance. The government has given you a lot and you show no appreciation for this. Why do you hate them? What has the state ever done to you? They've done (and given) more to you then most people have so why the hate?"

This is a fair question and also a sad and selfish one. I'm not going to answer what the state has done to me personally to make me hate them because that is irrelevant. My father might not bite the hand that feeds him but I would if the hand slaps other people around.

The reason I hate the state isn't because what they have done to me. I'm not a selfish son of a bitch. If I knew a person who was nice to me, complimented me, showered me with gifts but was a bully to others, I wouldn't like that person either. The state doesn't have to do anything to me personally for me to hate them.

Charles Manson didn't do anything to me personally either and suppose for the sake of argument Charles Manson took a liking to me and treated me nice, would my opinion of Manson change? No, because only a bastard cares about how a person treats him instead of how a person treats others.

I hate the state for the millions they have imprisoned for victimless crimes, for the money they stole through taxation and inflation, for dumbing down people and making them cogs in a machine (what is called, "mainstreaming"). I have empathy for all the millions suffered by the hands of the state and it's an absurdity for me to say, "Who cares about all the people the state has hurt as long as they give me stuff (that was taken from others) and are "nice" to me, why should I care.

Hitler was nice to Eva Braun but Ms. Braun was not a nice person for loving someone who caused others so much pain.

So why do I hate the state? Because they hurt, bully, kill, steal, lie, and torture other people and I can't be bribed by saying, "Treat me "nice" and give me stuff and I will ignore the pain you cause others."

I find it sad that my father has such a view and insulting that he thinks I'm that self-centered."
*Standing Ovation!*
The ironic thing is that WE'RE considered the selfish ones for not having such a self-centered way of thinking.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2013, 01:39:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2013, 05:04:59 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/13-texts-from-last-night-from-famous-superheroes/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 07, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
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This is video is full of win
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 12:09:52 PM
"Government - business = communism.
Government + business = fascism.
Business - government = freedom." -- Shane from that captioned pic he linked to in fail quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 08, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on June 07, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
[yt]JJpy4HRoEFo[/yt]

This is video is full of win

Victim mentality; threat narrative; thinking he knows better than all other consumers. I'd say fail.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 08, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
WARNING: not for the prudish.

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it's a favorite because (IMO) it's so funny.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Harry_Browne_Immigration.htm
I can see why Shane mises this guy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 08, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Victim mentality; threat narrative; thinking he knows better than all other consumers. I'd say fail.

I stopped watching when he started victim blaming.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 08, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 08, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
I stopped watching when he started victim blaming.

Another thing is this weird belief, that "not buying shit you don't like" is some new, industry saving thing that totally needs to be done. Because people totally buy things they don't actually like and this is something that absolutely doesn't happen already. Hey, he thinks CoD is shit, therefore, it is absolutely shit and people just buy garbage. It's silly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 08, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
Another thing is this weird belief, that "not buying shit you don't like" is some new, industry saving thing that totally needs to be done. Because people totally buy things they don't actually like and this is something that absolutely doesn't happen already. Hey, he thinks CoD is shit, therefore, it is absolutely shit and people just buy garbage. It's silly.
Indeed.  I mean, come on!  How elitist can one get?

Reminds me of the hippy socialists (who won a fucking Nobel prize ffs) on something called "micro lending) which, as far as I can tell, is just lending small amounts instead of huge amounts to those investors in 3rd world countries...because that's totally not something that would not and could not come about in the free market.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing long before it got a name.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 06:43:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 06:46:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 08:18:49 PM
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 08, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 08, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
Indeed.  I mean, come on!  How elitist can one get?

Reminds me of the hippy socialists (who won a fucking Nobel prize ffs) on something called "micro lending) which, as far as I can tell, is just lending small amounts instead of huge amounts to those investors in 3rd world countries...because that's totally not something that would not and could not come about in the free market.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing long before it got a name.

Well to me its not elitist People will buy crap to keep a franchise on life support why do you think the WWE is still in business   
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 08, 2013, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 08, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Victim mentality; threat narrative; thinking he knows better than all other consumers. I'd say fail.

I will say one thing to my fellow gamers, if you complain about a franchise yet keep sending them your money, STFU, you're not helping in the slightest.  Actions matter, words don't.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 08, 2013, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on June 08, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Well to me its not elitist People will buy crap to keep a franchise on life support why do you think the WWE is still in business
Why not?  It's looking down your nose and saying "my entertainment is better!" because I think and say so!  Which you just did in this very comment!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 09, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 08, 2013, 11:58:14 PM
Why not?  It's looking down your nose and saying "my entertainment is better!" because I think and say so!  Which you just did in this very comment!

I'm not talking about the people who like genuinely like the product I'm talking about the people who bitch and moan and then still watch/buy the product and then bitch and moan about that said product then watch/buy it again and so on and so on. 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 09, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
Quote from: Dukect45 on June 08, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
People will buy crap to keep a franchise on life support why do you think the WWE is still in business

>life support
>WWE


Hardly.

Let's be honest, until WWE gets decent competition, they'll be around forever. TNA Wrestling is also not decent competition, no matter how much they want to claim they are.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 09, 2013, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: D on June 09, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
>life support
>WWE


Hardly.

Let's be honest, until WWE gets decent competition, they'll be around forever. TNA Wrestling is also not decent competition, no matter how much they want to claim they are.

I agree with that I might embellished the way the WWE looks right now. But for me personally I just don't care about the WWE anymore and I hate that if you know what I mean   
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 01:16:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 09, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
For the non-propertarian anti-capitalist anarchists who read this page I have some questions I'd like to ask you:

1) Under any economic system there has to be incentives in place. Under your economic system that doesn't recognize private property how do you expect people to produce and create? Also if people can't keep the fruits of their labor what incentive is there to produce?

2) Do you believe in a court system and defense agencies? If not then how do you expect people to defend themselves and settle disputes and if so how are these court systems decided by? Under a free market these services compete with each other and are tired by people who want to use these services. There is no majority vote that decides who is going to be in charge or who works in the defense systems where the outvoted minority has to use. This idea sounds strangely like a government.

3) Though this question is number 3, I feel it is the most important one. My question is why are you an anarchist. It's obvious you don't oppose the state since it violates the NAP since your type of "anarchy" also does. A society that does not allow people to choose how much property they can own, who they can hire, how much they can hire them, and choose which profession to enter is indeed a violent society (since violence must be used to force people to comply or to violate their property rights). How is your anarchy different from a government? It seems (at least based on the anarcho-socialists and syndicalists that I've spoke to and read that they believe in voting (democracy) and are collectivistic and do believe in coercive "planning" and believe in the redistribution of wealth which is exactly what a government is so how are you any different than a statist? What does the government do that you oppose? Are you against the welfare state?

The reason I ask these questions is because it seems like the anarchic society you propose ignores incentives, human nature, is unsustainable and will create a vacuum of power. It seems like Mussolini was right when he called anarchists (he was referring to left-anarchists or anarcho-communists and socialists), "baffled dictators" because it seems like that's what you are. -DR

from statism is slavery
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 09, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 09, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
For the non-propertarian anti-capitalist anarchists who read this page

Do we have any of those here?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 09, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 09, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
Do we have any of those here?

I would actually be delighted if their were any here
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 01:16:46 PM
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Made by yours truly. :P
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Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 03:01:51 PM
 
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Made by yours truly. :P

I think you probably meant over how awesome I am, not ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
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I think you probably meant over how awesome I am, not ever.

Looks like it was fixed, or I misread it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Looks like it was fixed, or I misread it.
I fixed it, but thanks for the correction, anyways.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 09, 2013, 03:53:28 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 09, 2013, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 09, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
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Made by yours truly. :P

OK, but who is this?  I don't recognize him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 09, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 09, 2013, 07:31:43 PM
OK, but who is this?  I don't recognize him.

Thats Lysander Spooner
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 09, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
That's Lysander Spooner.
Dang it!  You beat me to it! :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
"Do you speak english? Do you understand the meaning of "have to"? War is bad, so is robbery and rape. I can easily say that we shouldn't do those things from the comfort of my chair.. It is upto the hard working robbers and rapists to get the "job" done because they are the hard nosed realists and do what they "have to"." --Ganga Din, in response to that tired old, "well you can just sit back and judge our proud soldiers and politicians by the comfort of your arm chair when they were in the thick of things!" bullshit.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=pBavo8IIVCM
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2013, 10:12:46 PM
"A system that needs the right man to push the button is not the right system."--Milton Friedman, from this page:  https://www.youtube.com/user/utubehayter/about
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
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Likening the NSA surveillance program to the Government being a jealous girlfriend.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 09, 2013, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
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Likening the NSA surveillance program to the Government being a jealous girlfriend.

I....actually have a Star Wars Action Figure Collection
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 09, 2013, 10:58:52 PM
Public service supporters love to call people hypocrites for using state services despite their moral objections to the whole idea...
This is akin to someone asking me if I'd like to trade cars and when I turn them down, they make off with my car in the night and leave me with their car anyway and then when I use the only car I have to get to work and complain about the situation, they call me an ungrateful hypocrite.
No, I'm not a hypocrite for using the only car I have available, you're a thief for taking the car.  I'm sorry if that's really so confusing to you.
- Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 09, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8BHjnbq.jpg)

Kudos to Dale Everett for linking this. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 10, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 10, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
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Oldie but a goodie!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 10, 2013, 08:06:31 PMOldie but a goodie!
Indeed.

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Another outstanding video.  This one regarding the Xbox One and used games debate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 10, 2013, 11:24:32 PM
the hilarious part is that the only way to get it at first was to downlaod it from his website.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 10, 2013, 11:39:30 PM
Sony, you clever bastards!
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 11, 2013, 12:15:18 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 11, 2013, 06:10:47 AM
Quote from: D on June 09, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
>life support
>WWE


Hardly.

Let's be honest, until WWE gets decent competition, they'll be around forever. TNA Wrestling is also not decent competition, no matter how much they want to claim they are.

WWE also has more coverage around the world today tha it did a decade ago. And the people in most of those countries don't ahve the same standarts as U.S. fans that have watched wrestling since before Hulk Hogan.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 11, 2013, 11:42:21 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 11, 2013, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 11, 2013, 11:42:21 AM
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First of all is that Lisa Kennady from Stossel? Second of all. Finally a building htats not a penis.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 11, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 11, 2013, 12:05:31 PM

First of all is that Lisa Kennady from Stossel? Second of all. Finally a building htats not a penis.

I'm assuming you're under 30 for not referring to her as Kennedy from MTV.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 11, 2013, 01:48:24 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 11, 2013, 02:09:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2013, 05:39:52 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-to-be-angrier-that-nsa-tapping-your-phone/
Did they seriously make a win about this?  Damn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2000/12/517/ ("The president's first day in office" by Harry Browne)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2013, 09:18:51 PM
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Needless to say, this guy just earned himself another subscriber.  Thanks for sharing, D.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on June 12, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 12, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 12, 2013, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on June 12, 2013, 09:50:18 AM


Ehh, too many panels with too little effort and some of these games are decades old.
Definately not the Strip we're searching for.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 12, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ht-0Hne4EU
Ancapbrony... U Y NO EMBED!?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 12, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 12, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ht-0Hne4EU

Gotta love those market-based solutions! Competition FTW!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 12, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 12, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
Ancapbrony... U Y NO EMBED!?

sory forgot. I fixed it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 12, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
sory forgot. I fixed it.
It's cool and thanks!
And to respond to the video, I think Sony just fucking pwned Microsoft.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
"James Randi is awesome!" —Ian Bernard, primary host of Free Talk Live (http://www.freetalklive.com/)

"It really does take people like Penn & Teller or James Randi to be able to see through these deceptions, and so those are perhaps the people we should be paying the most attention to." —Harry Browne (http://www.harrybrowne.org/), 4/10/2004

For those wondering, those quotes, URL's included are from Shane's signature from the JREF Forum:  http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=75619
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 12, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 12, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
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Have they reversed the idiotic policies they put in with the PS3, though?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 12, 2013, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 12, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Have they reversed the idiotic policies they put in with the PS3, though?

Which are?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
BlameThe1st's series, "Anti-Libertarians Can't Think" needs a spot in this thread.

Here's two of my faves: 

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A correction to the above video: 
4:20 --ShaneDK about that act (GS): "Glass-Steagall created the FDIC. Separating investment from commercial banks was done to mitigate the moral hazard. The so-called "repeal" of Glass-Steagall was really an extension of FDIC protection to mortgage accounts. That's INCREASED government.

Canada, the UK, Germany, Switzerland, and every other country in the world except Belgium have NEVER separated commercial and investment banks, and they've never had this problem." -- from his latest econ video.


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 12, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 12, 2013, 02:23:39 PM
Which are?

Things like claiming they could arbitrarily break your system (by removing functionality) without you having any recourse was the big one for me.  I think the Pentagon wasn't too please about it either, since it effectively destroyed a supercomputer they built out of PS3's.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 12, 2013, 05:33:06 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 12, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
I think the Pentagon wasn't too please about it either, since it effectively destroyed a supercomputer they built out of PS3's.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 12, 2013, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 12, 2013, 05:33:06 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

As originally shipped, the PS3 had the ability to run additional operating systems installable by the user (although one of the processor cores was kept for use by the hypervisor and security system to make it not suitable for running pirated materials).

The US military took advantage of the low cost of the PS3 to build a computing cluster out of them using this feature.  This specific feature was one of those removed that made many people very angry.  When the feature was removed (and was not going to be available on new units and would be removed from old units sent in for warranty repairs) it became impossible to maintain the facility for the medium term.  IIRC, it was even suggested that IBM (the manufacturer of the Cell processor) might have been behind the move, since the PS3 was effectively competing with IBM's own Cell-based cluster hardware.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 12, 2013, 05:53:40 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 12, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
BlameThe1st's series, "Anti-Libertarians Can't Think" needs a spot in this thread.

Here's two of my faves: 

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A correction to the above video: 
4:20 --ShaneDK about that act (GS): "Glass-Steagall created the FDIC. Separating investment from commercial banks was done to mitigate the moral hazard. The so-called "repeal" of Glass-Steagall was really an extension of FDIC protection to mortgage accounts. That's INCREASED government.

Canada, the UK, Germany, Switzerland, and every other country in the world except Belgium have NEVER separated commercial and investment banks, and they've never had this problem." -- from his latest econ video.


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This shit is going on Anarhco-capitalist bronies fb page
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 12, 2013, 05:53:40 PM
This shit is going on Anarhco-capitalist bronies fb page

Another small correction, this time on the Zonation refutation video:  There is no left/right libertarianism.  You are either for individual rights or you aren't.
Still good videos overall. :)  As are the rest imho.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 12, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
Another small correction, this time on the Zonation refutation video:  There is no left/right libertarianism.  You are either for individual rights or you aren't.
Still good videos overall. :)  As are the rest imho.

Actually, historically speaking, libertarianism is a sort of umbrella term which ahs beenused to refer to a wide range of ideologies that can be either propriatarian or non propratairan, consequentailist or deontological, anarchist ic or minarchistic. This includes among other things various schools of anarchism ranging from individualist anarchism, mutualism, anarcho-capitalism, anarcho-communism, or even anarcho-syndicalism. As well as various subdivisions such as paleolibertarianism, agorism, geolibertarianism, et cetera.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 08:47:34 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Actually, historically speaking, libertarianism is a sort of umbrella term which ahs beenused to refer to a wide range of ideologies that can be either propriatarian or non propratairan, consequentailist or deontological, anarchist ic or minarchistic. This includes among other things various schools of anarchism ranging from individualist anarchism, mutualism, anarcho-capitalism, anarcho-communism, or even anarcho-syndicalism. As well as various subdivisions such as paleolibertarianism, agorism, geolibertarianism, et cetera.

Um, no. (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=libertarian)
(http://www.nolanchart.com/images/advocates.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
Um yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
Um yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
Sorry, but wikipedia < the authoritive source I just linked, bro.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
You have to recognize that David Nolan's use of the term is not the only meaning that has ever existed Its hardly even the first understanding of the term. in Europe libertarianism  is in fact just another word for anarchism for example with liberalism holding the meaningth at is associated iwth libertarianism int he United States.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2013, 09:05:22 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 12, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
You have to recognize that David Nolan's use of the term is not the only meaning that has ever existed Its hardly even the first understanding of the term. in Europe libertarianism  is in fact just another word for anarchism for example with liberalism holding the meaningth at is associated iwth libertarianism int he United States.

I also included a hyperlink to the online etymology dictionary (the authoritative source, the Nolan chart was more of a visual helper to be honest):  http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=libertarian <-- the link posted in an above post without the code.

The link I posted with the code:
[url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=libertarian]Um, no.[/url]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 12, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
i reallyt hink we should split htis off in to antoehr topic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 12, 2013, 11:09:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 13, 2013, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 12, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
BlameThe1st's series, "Anti-Libertarians Can't Think" needs a spot in this thread.

Thanks for the shout-outs! ;)

Since we're mentioning my video series, might as well mention the other videos:

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I really loved this one because atticana wants to paint libertarians as "racist" while he himself expouses racist views. (Hmm, send all those Africans back to Africa, indeed, good sir!)

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Ah, yes, good ol' Frank. This one was a classic. But now, come to think about it, the video reply could have easily been this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNk)

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This one, I admit, was cheating. All credit goes to Shane for this one!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 13, 2013, 06:40:56 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on June 13, 2013, 12:14:20 AM
Thanks for the shout-outs! ;)

Since we're mentioning my video series, might as well mention the other videos:

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I really loved this one because atticana wants to paint libertarians as "racist" while he himself expouses racist views. (Hmm, send all those Africans back to Africa, indeed, good sir!)

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Ah, yes, good ol' Frank. This one was a classic. But now, come to think about it, the video reply could have easily been this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNk)

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This one, I admit, was cheating. All credit goes to Shane for this one!

I love how atticana turns it in to a religious tract about how his god instills morality. No offense BT1. and to be fair yo Krugman I would imagine an alien invasion WOULD stimulate the economy eventually given the potential to understand new technology. Frank is just hilarious given he goes in to the IT'S FEUDALISM tract. Why is it that everybody seems to compare libertarianism to feudalism? when did this trend start? where does it stem from? Oh and then whining "I have a right to believe what I want! Stop forcing me to live YOUR way!" Yeah how are we doing that again? Oh and not quite relevant but Frank is an ugly SOB.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 13, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 13, 2013, 04:13:59 PM
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YES! I loved this sketch! :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 13, 2013, 06:28:57 PM
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110308.gif)

You paying attention, statists?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 13, 2013, 07:18:22 PM
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I should also add that this invention would be an absolute godsend to people with driving phobia/anxiety, like me. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 13, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
I don't see how a self-driving car would work, how it would handle a relationship with other vehicles and the roads themselves.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 13, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 13, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
I don't see how a self-driving car would work, how it would handle a relationship with other vehicles and the roads themselves.

Change "would" to "does." They've been on the roads for years. Out of over a million lane miles clocked up, there was only one accident involved while the car was in driverless mode: when it was stopped at a red light and rear-ended by a human driver.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 13, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 13, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Change "would" to "does." They've been on the roads for years. Out of over a million lane miles clocked up, there was only one accident involved while the car was in driverless mode: when it was stopped at a red light and rear-ended by a human driver.

How do they work? seems like you would have to modify the whole driving inferstructure and roadway system to make them run properly. anyway I am not sure I can embed this but its toog ood to pass up


http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6896212/how-to-fight-nsa-wiretapping
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 13, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 13, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
How do they work? seems like you would have to modify the whole driving inferstructure and roadway system to make them run properly.

Nope, they run fine on existing roads, from city streets to country back roads to major highways.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 13, 2013, 08:47:34 PM
huh. now time ot research how that actuallywroks I suppose.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 13, 2013, 09:25:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 13, 2013, 09:34:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 13, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: D on June 13, 2013, 09:34:20 PM[yt]gaGqQgJWPOo[/yt]
/applause
:)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 14, 2013, 08:48:22 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 14, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 13, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
Nope, they run fine on existing roads, from city streets to country back roads to major highways.

From what I've seen on the research, this was then entire point:  To develop cars that could drive themselves on existing, unmodified roads as they currently are built.  It wasn't easy, since it isn't like you can just do things like hook a camera up to a computer and have the computer figure out where the road even is.  It's been decades of work to devise workable means for computers to detect obstacles, identify roadways, identify potential dangers, find a reasonable route to a destination..
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 14, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 14, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
From what I've seen on the research, this was then entire point:  To develop cars that could drive themselves on existing, unmodified roads as they currently are built.  It wasn't easy, since it isn't like you can just do things like hook a camera up to a computer and have the computer figure out where the road even is.  It's been decades of work to devise workable means for computers to detect obstacles, identify roadways, identify potential dangers, find a reasonable route to a destination..

One big roadblock was waiting for a more accurate GPS system. Up until 2004 or so, the GPS could only get you within a few meters, and the GPS systems just assumed if you were "near enough" to a road they'd place you on it. Now, not only is the GPS system much more accurate, the maps are better too and the car's cameras and sensors can double-check everything to make sure their given location matches reality.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 14, 2013, 11:00:51 AM
huh.

Also,

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/600285_580475155329928_755876261_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 15, 2013, 12:22:19 AM
Why I'm against the fairtax.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s403x403/1004584_639841202701420_703456398_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 15, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
Well, if it isn't our favorite cynic and professional asshole, H.L.Mencken.  :P

in the meantime, I think those of us who watched Shane's episode about "the secret", will love this:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
"'how can a libertarian be fine with the government redefining marriage?'

If it's wrong for the government to redefine marriage, then it was wrong for government to define marriage to begin with." --Shane in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=TV4U_FDUI6M&threaded=1)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2013, 04:13:09 PM
"Who wants good people in government? Good people should be in the private sector. Helping us out, helping themselves out in the private sector. We want schmoes in government. We want people who can't find the doorknob. Why waste productive people, as well as looting the taxpayer?" --Murray N. Rothbard
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/942127_647201331973126_939338749_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fail Quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 16, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
From the Facebook timeline of a lifetime member of LP Georgia (via the LPGA page):

"I became confused when I heard the word "Service" used with these agencies:

Internal Revenue 'Service'
U.S. Postal 'Service'
Telephone 'Service'
Cable TV 'Service'
Civil 'Service'
State, City, County & Public 'Service'
Customer 'Service'

This is not what I thought 'Service' meant.

But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to 'Service' a few cows.

BAM !!! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies are doing.

I hope that you are now just as enlightened as I am."
Title: Re: Re: Fail Quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 16, 2013, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 16, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
From the Facebook timeline of a lifetime member of LP Georgia (via the LPGA page):

"I became confused when I heard the word "Service" used with these agencies:

Internal Revenue 'Service'
U.S. Postal 'Service'
Telephone 'Service'
Cable TV 'Service'
Civil 'Service'
State, City, County & Public 'Service'
Customer 'Service'

This is not what I thought 'Service' meant.

But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to 'Service' a few cows.

BAM !!! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies are doing.

I hope that you are now just as enlightened as I am."

Uhh....was this meant to be a fail quote? Doesn't sound all that fail to me.
Title: Re: Re: Fail Quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 16, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 16, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
From the Facebook timeline of a lifetime member of LP Georgia (via the LPGA page):

"I became confused when I heard the word "Service" used with these agencies:

Internal Revenue 'Service'
U.S. Postal 'Service'
Telephone 'Service'
Cable TV 'Service'
Civil 'Service'
State, City, County & Public 'Service'
Customer 'Service'

This is not what I thought 'Service' meant.

But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to 'Service' a few cows.

BAM !!! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies are doing.

I hope that you are now just as enlightened as I am."

I think we should replace 'service' with 'extortion racket'
Title: Re: Re: Fail Quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 16, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: D on June 16, 2013, 02:12:50 PM
Uhh....was this meant to be a fail quote? Doesn't sound all that fail to me.

Sorry, that was supposed to be in Fav Quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2013, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 16, 2013, 02:53:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/600285_580475155329928_755876261_n.jpg)
you already posted that about 5-7 posts above.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 16, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
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I nominate hawkeye to be permanent or semi-permanent co-host of the show
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2013, 12:51:11 AM
@ancapbrony--seconded.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 17, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 16, 2013, 07:44:03 PM
you already posted that about 5-7 posts above.

Sorry i've been a bit out of it. Also I third the notion.

I also third that Hawkeye needs to become a regular co-host and to put osme acutal content. From the comments of the latest podcast


Quote4lifejackhammer 13 hours ago

Politics can lead to lying and appeals to base emotion such as anger and greed. Therefore, it is morally advisable that politics become illegal and the profession of politician becomes illegal (unfortunately, they'll just change the name of the "profession").
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 17, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
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Definitely one of the best videos Stef has ever done.  This is why I dislike the idea of gov't debt/unfunded liabilities/etc--of any type or level.  Just expand that logic to said other levels/types to see why.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "We owe the origin and development of human society and, consequently, of culture and civilization, to the fact that work performed under the division of labor is more productive than when performed in isolation." - Epistemological Problems of Economics
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 17, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
D.C. Senator Paul Strauss insisted that RT not air his debate with Amanda Billyrock. She decided to upload it to her Youtube channel anyway.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/167/b/3/libertarian_wonka_by_exodvs-d69ce1o.jpg)

Found in BlameThe1st's favorites on DeviantArt. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 18, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
Aaand, speak of the bronies:
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Nice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 18, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
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As I said to Hawkeye in AIM, I really wish the people like are being made fun of in that video would STFU.  Seriously, they're not helping.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 18, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
[yt]RvxayyD2_74[/yt]

ALL. OF. MY. YES.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 18, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 18, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: D on June 18, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
[yt]nWtT8Phf3PU[/yt]

Epic win!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 19, 2013, 12:13:37 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 16, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
[yt]mKz4mbOUxMc[/yt]

I nominate hawkeye to be permanent or semi-permanent co-host of the show

I second that motion!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 19, 2013, 06:13:14 PM
(http://www.mapsofworld.com/poll/images/is-war-a-booming-industry-facts-infographic.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 19, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2013, 06:44:11 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 19, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

See? Now aren't we all glad that we have a government that protected the consumers by stepping in and--oh, wait...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 19, 2013, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 19, 2013, 06:44:11 PM
See? Now aren't we all glad that we have a government that protected the consumers by stepping in and--oh, wait...

As much as this sounds nice, that's not the ONLY issue with Microsoft. The Xbox One is still going to have all the spy features and still require online once every 24 hours.

Also, while I'm going to wait and see what actually happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft goes back to the used game restrictions once people start buying the console.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2013, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: D on June 19, 2013, 07:01:24 PM
As much as this sounds nice, that's not the ONLY issue with Microsoft. The Xbox One is still going to have all the spy features and still require online once every 24 hours.

Also, while I'm going to wait and see what actually happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft goes back to the used game restrictions once people start buying the console.

Perhaps, but Microsoft has to realize that, the times, they are a-changing. They no longer rule the roost. Apple and Linux have limited the influence they have on the desktop and the laptop, Apple and Google are creaming them on smart devices, and Sony at least has proven they're not afraid to go head-to-head with them on gaming consoles (where was Nintendo during all this?). They can't just impose their will on users and expect them to accept it the way they have in the past.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 19, 2013, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 19, 2013, 07:04:15 PM
Perhaps, but Microsoft has to realize that, the times, they are a-changing. They no longer rule the roost. Apple and Linux have limited the influence they have on the desktop and the laptop, Apple and Google are creaming them on smart devices, and Sony at least has proven they're not afraid to go head-to-head with them on gaming consoles (where was Nintendo during all this?). They can't just impose their will on users and expect them to accept it the way they have in the past.

Nintendo are off doing their own thing. Nintendo, for some reason or another, couldn't care less about Sony or Microsoft. They probably figure they'll make a ton of money no matter what, which is honestly true at this point.

As far as Microsoft goes, it took them a long time to finally say, "We're listening to you." Hell, when people were complaining about this before, their response came down to "Deal with it" or "Stick with the Xbox 360 then."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 19, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
an Arab on some people's way of thinking (making fun of them specifically):

Quoteالفحل اللي بالفيديو مفكر الزلومية بكثرة الخلفة ،، كل ليلة بقول: افتحي رجليكي يا مره ،، ويجيك يحكيلك ما معي اصرف عليهم ولا اربيهم ودخيلكم ساعدوني !! ومرتو الأرنبة مبسوطة عطوول بتفتحلو رجليها !! عالم أرانب

translation:

Quotethe stallion in the video associates manhood with the number of children....every night he says: "open your legs woman...and I will come to you and tell you I have nothing to spend on them nor to raise them and your agent helps me!! and of course he wife the rabbit is automatically happy to celebrate with her legs! (truly) a world of Rabbits![/quotes]

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
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Glad to see Shane posting a video like this again! :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 20, 2013, 06:26:27 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 19, 2013, 06:44:11 PM
See? Now aren't we all glad that we have a government that protected the consumers by stepping in and--oh, wait...

Some people are actually unhappy with this change: http://www.dorkly.com/article/52521/don-mattricks-first-draft-of-the-xbox-one-update-announcement
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 20, 2013, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: VectorM on June 20, 2013, 06:26:27 AM
Some people are actually unhappy with this change: http://www.dorkly.com/article/52521/don-mattricks-first-draft-of-the-xbox-one-update-announcement

Definitely belongs in Fail Quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 20, 2013, 10:11:29 PM
Education... (http://imgur.com/koYcrtr)

(http://i.imgur.com/koYcrtr.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
Quote from: VectorM on June 20, 2013, 06:26:27 AM
Some people are actually unhappy with this change: http://www.dorkly.com/article/52521/don-mattricks-first-draft-of-the-xbox-one-update-announcement

I believe Jim had that best response to that steaming pile of butthurt and fail:  [yt]pZ7v_8tMcsU[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2013, 09:34:43 AM
Leo Laporte laid down the problems with NSA grabbing metadata good and clear:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 21, 2013, 11:11:48 AM
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Why are the only people who have the cojones to call Obama a "war criminal" foreigners? Why can't we Americans be this brave?!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2013, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on June 21, 2013, 11:11:48 AM
[yt]CnJCvKA-oEU[/yt]

Why are the only people who have the cojones to call Obama a "war criminal" foreigners? Why can't we Americans be this brave?!

It was quite different when Bush was in office, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2013, 12:00:54 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on June 21, 2013, 11:11:48 AM
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Why are the only people who have the cojones to call Obama a "war criminal" foreigners? Why can't we Americans be this brave?!
Tom Woods and every other libertarian calling out the drone strikes and continuation of wars, etc, all say "Hi." :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 21, 2013, 12:34:35 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 19, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
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Glad to see Shane posting a video like this again! :)

@ 2:04: the big bang, strictly speaking, does not actually explain how the universe actually began. It does however describe how, once it "began", it developed: through a rapid expansion of space-time, from a "singularity". how this itself appeared/began (if it even "began" as such"), is unknown, though I've heard and read some hypotheses on the matter (actually, I think you posted a video mentioning a couple, though it's been years).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 21, 2013, 12:00:54 PM
Tom Woods and every other libertarian calling out the drone strikes and continuation of wars, etc, all say "Hi." :P

I mean people who aren't continually ignored by the mainstream media.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2013, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 21, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
I mean people who aren't continually ignored by the mainstream media.
Oh, well yeah.  That makes sense.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html
#1 would also explain how, despite the founders alleged knowledge of the Romans republic growing and falling under its own weight, why they still made our government one too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 21, 2013, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 21, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html
#1 would also explain how, despite the founders alleged knowledge of the Romans republic growing and falling under its own weight, why they still made our government one too.

They thought they could do it better, having at least some ideas of the pitfalls.  It didn't really work out particularly well, although it certainly wasn't worse than the proposed alternatives.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 21, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
I was looking ofr a program to generate my own Obama Meme and I found some really good ones

(http://t.qkme.me/35iito.jpg)

(http://t.qkme.me/3581h4.jpg)

(http://t.qkme.me/35ib69.jpg)


(http://t.qkme.me/357u0d.jpg)

(http://t.qkme.me/5vz7.jpg)

(http://t.qkme.me/35m6jj.jpg)

(http://t.qkme.me/48r5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 21, 2013, 11:31:57 PM
I know my atheist friends are going to hate me for this, but this I consider to be epic win:

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LOL! Slick Rich gets his just desserts! :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 12:02:16 AM
Sorry, got 3 minutes in and had to cut it off because of the onslaught of IncrediFail.

Do you guys REALLY not get the point behind the Zeus analogy? "They would be reflected by their interactions with us." And YHVH wouldn't? Or did he all of a sudden just decide to start behaving differently after the Bible was compiled? And if he did, why couldn't Zeus have thus changed his mind as well?

Do you really not get that we don't see any difference between Zeus and YHVH? Two ancient, primitive gods who behave in ways we don't see the universe acting like?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 21, 2013, 11:16:16 AM
It was quite different when Bush was in office, wasn't it?
Not really, remember what happened when the Dixie Chicks criticized Bush for attacking Iraq? If you don't, essentially, the media and the court of public opinion more or less labeled them as traitors.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 09:06:45 AM
Not really, remember what happened when the Dixie Chicks criticized Bush for attacking Iraq? If you don't, essentially, the media and the court of public opinion more or less labeled them as traitors.

The right called you traitors; the left supported you and called for impeachment. Now the right AND the left call you traitors.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
The right called you traitors; the left supported you and called for impeachment. Now the right AND the left call you traitors.

IIRC, the calling for impeachment didn't happen until years later, when it was revealed that there never was any evidence Iraq had ever had weapons of mass destruction; which was the pretense for attacking them in the first place.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 10:31:17 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 09:24:33 AM
IIRC, the calling for impeachment didn't happen until years later, when it was revealed that there never was any evidence Iraq had ever had weapons of mass destruction; which was the pretense for attacking them in the first place.

Actually, it didn't happen until the Democrats gained control of the House, ensuring that if Bush and Cheney were both impeached the Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president. Interesting timing, huh? Naaah, it must be a coincidence...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 10:31:17 AM
Actually, it didn't happen until the Democrats gained control of the House, ensuring that if Bush and Cheney were both impeached the Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president. Interesting timing, huh? Naaah, it must be a coincidence...

Well, maybe. Then again, being impeached would only mean anything if Bush and Cheney had been convicted by the Senate, which was still Republican at that juncture. (Bill Clinton was in fact impeached over the lying to congress over the Monica Lewinski thing, but as far as I know, the Senate never even considered the matter).

I guess you could use a threat of impeachment as some kind of intimidation tactic, but unless the charges are actually substantial, it's highly doubtful to get you far.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on June 22, 2013, 10:51:33 AM
Well, maybe. Then again, being impeached would only mean anything if Bush and Cheney had been convicted by the Senate, which was still Republican at that juncture.

No, it was Democratic as well. They took both houses in 2006.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 10:31:17 AM
Actually, it didn't happen until the Democrats gained control of the House, ensuring that if Bush and Cheney were both impeached the Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president. Interesting timing, huh? Naaah, it must be a coincidence...

reminds me of the whole impeachment of Bill Clinton...not quite the same motives, but also at a politically opportune moment.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2013, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 21, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html
#1 would also explain how, despite the founders alleged knowledge of the Romans republic growing and falling under its own weight, why they still made our government one too.

they wanted to prove that they could be do better than the Iroqois?

well, they didn't exactly do well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 22, 2013, 01:46:47 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=8948286

Go Mr Lee!! Woo hoo!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 19, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
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Glad to see Shane posting a video like this again! :)

It didn't take them long to resort to the old slavery canard in the comments, did it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 22, 2013, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
It didn't take them long to resort to the old slavery canard in the comments, did it?

I swear the comments from these idiot make my heard want to explode -_-*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
It didn't take them long to resort to the old slavery canard in the comments, did it?

IMHO, that should be the first thing  addressed in part 2: compare the argument some make that w/o religion, men will exploit and enslave one another, with the argument that without statism, men will exploit and enslave each other.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
IMHO, that should be the first thing  addressed in part 2: compare the argument some make that w/o religion, men will exploit and enslave one another, with the argument that without statism, men will exploit and enslave each other.

That's part 5, actually.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 22, 2013, 06:55:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
That's part 5, actually.

How soon will the next parts come out?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 22, 2013, 06:55:55 PM
How soon will the next parts come out?

I'm gonna try for one a week. Don't bet any money on that actually happening.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 22, 2013, 09:50:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 22, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
I'm gonna try for one a week. Don't bet any money on that actually happening.

to late XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2013, 09:38:46 AM
"If a man has the right to self-ownership, to the control of his life, then in the real world he must also have the right to sustain his life by grappling with and transforming resources; he must be able to own the ground and the resources on which he stands and which he must use. In short, to sustain his 'human right.'"--Murray Rothbard
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2013, 01:15:25 PM
[yt]i42cUKC8yLE[/yt]
Damn you Bart Baker! I can't get this song out of my head!  Be sure and play it at your wedding or first date. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 23, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
From Daily Kos, of all places: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/20/1216665/-Obama-is-a-F-G-FRAUD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 23, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zDPAxjsZE
How many more excuses boys and girls?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 23, 2013, 11:54:52 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/3uxzr2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 24, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
[yt]JQkdSj6arn0&list=WL14B01B63F6B2BDA3[/yt]

Things said by Friedman and Sowell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 24, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1044795_10152928867815471_1289544758_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 24, 2013, 01:46:39 PM
Not a quote, but I love it:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1045242_10152289687034240_908738498_n.jpg)

It inspired me to make this, suitable for using as a Facebook avatar: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151517555728131&set=a.421803233130.195339.504058130&type=1
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2013, 01:48:35 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 24, 2013, 01:46:39 PM
Not a quote, but I love it:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1045242_10152289687034240_908738498_n.jpg)

It inspired me to make this, suitable for using as a Facebook avatar: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151517555728131&set=a.421803233130.195339.504058130&type=1

I like I like those guys. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 24, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
[yt]4dM4x2VrxNQ&lc=7tV92OIUQL0njzxRou6Df-REVgaPT-_Qtt3DdlKc5zE[/yt]

It's monsterous nightmare scenarios like these that convince me we ned a government to stop these lunatics from their lawless insanity!

Pardon the pun but that Gaydsdan flag is awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2013, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 31, 2013, 01:17:02 PM
"Being libertarian is quite simple. If you believe it is wrong to use force to get your way about things, you are a libertarian. If you hold that belief, no matter what you call yourself, you are a libertarian." —R. Lee Wrights
Yes, but what if they call themselves libertarian and *don't* hold that belief?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 24, 2013, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 24, 2013, 04:29:53 PM
Yes, but what if they call themselves libertarian and *don't* hold that belief?

Then they're a lying sack of shit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 24, 2013, 10:12:57 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s403x403/1017208_353568214745652_968207895_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 24, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 24, 2013, 10:12:57 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s403x403/1017208_353568214745652_968207895_n.jpg)

Absolute Brilliance.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 24, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
[yt]GC18mSZkDac[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 25, 2013, 01:12:15 PM
[yt]JUVXEKmgd5E&feature=youtu.be[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 25, 2013, 01:33:43 PM
For all my fellow bronies! :D

[yt]5OLKzFtvOzU[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 25, 2013, 01:51:37 PM
Well, since I've posted two of this guy's works as fails, I did manage to find two that were (imo), worthy of this thread:

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/323/3/a/now_please_shut_up__by_mike_the_cat-d5lj7ra.png)

and this:  (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/015/e/d/the_inverted_cross_is_not_evil_by_mike_the_cat-d5rl2ai.gif)
You'd be surprised how many people don't know that about the inverted cross.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 25, 2013, 02:23:18 PM
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/047/8/6/tired_of_being_accused_of_misogyny_by_mike_the_cat-d5v3saw.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 25, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p320x320/1010521_10151508574075197_2007640546_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 25, 2013, 10:28:35 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 24, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
[yt]GC18mSZkDac[/yt]

Oy veh, but some of the questions at the end are fail.  In fact, there sounded like there was one guy who went through every fallacy in the book (and all of them failed and he didn't appear to notice).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 25, 2013, 11:23:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VDPy7.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 12:15:33 AM
QuoteThe NCR's the biggest gang of thieves in the Mojave, only difference is they pass laws to make their crimes legal before they commit them. - Benny Fallout: New Vegas
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 26, 2013, 12:32:26 AM
Quote from: tnu on June 26, 2013, 12:15:33 AM


Is this at the casino? *is currently replaying the game*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 26, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/947160_10151463442616363_1488353870_n.jpg)

The panarchist in me says yes
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 26, 2013, 12:32:26 AM
Is this at the casino? *is currently replaying the game*

Nope, it's at the Fort. When you ask him what's so bad about the NCR.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 26, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
[yt]-RyrmlyjpPA[/yt]

I approve.

EDIT: I'd give you a great example: the way-some groups may make special pleading regarding their holy men.within Islam for example (at least for some of the sects), there is what is known as isma7, which in effect renders the prophets infallible--to the contradiction of what the Qur'an itself has to say: hell, I caught it when I was six! It's actually at the heart of the criticism against most of modern orthodoxy among some circles.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 26, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 26, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
[yt]-RyrmlyjpPA[/yt]

I approve.

Me 2
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 26, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/947160_10151463442616363_1488353870_n.jpg)

The panarchist in me says yes

I concru, I liek this one much better, where did you find it? at any rate, another good one Shane. I really really REALLY hate specila pleeding. Especially Original Sin.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 26, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 26, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
I concru, I liek this one much better, where did you find it? at any rate, another good one Shane. I really really REALLY hate specila pleeding. Especially Original Sin.

There'll be a part on Original Sin, unless I end up including it in Argument from Morality.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 06:59:42 PM
Seems like it would have fit nicely udner Special Pleeding but eh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 26, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 26, 2013, 06:59:42 PM
Seems like it would have fit nicely udner Special Pleeding but eh.

I'm trying to keep them relatively short.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 26, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
I'm trying to keep them relatively short.

Relative to what?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 26, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 26, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
I concru, I liek this one much better, where did you find it? at any rate, another good one Shane. I really really REALLY hate specila pleeding. Especially Original Sin.

A friend of mine made it after seeing another version of this pic that completely straw manned AnCap
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 26, 2013, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 26, 2013, 07:31:10 PM
Relative to what?

The amount of time people like to spend casually watching a YouTube video. If you hook them, you can get 10-15 minutes out of them. The people who watch the 30+ minute videos are the ones who really want to watch them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 26, 2013, 08:37:56 PM
Hehe just remembeirng what a friend of mine once said when making relative statements like that. Know yoru ocmparisons.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 27, 2013, 10:47:36 AM
[yt]0E7gYAAg9-0[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2013, 11:04:25 AM
[yt]DNMeZSy7UK4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 27, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Wmno4YH.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 27, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
[yt]nzraacAuuyk[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2013, 03:18:19 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/Hypocrite-Feminist/popular/1/?upcoming
So much win. :3

http://www.quickmeme.com/Bad-Argument-Hippie/?upcoming
Haven't searched through these, but at least this one is win:
(http://i.qkme.me/3pnmlc.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 27, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
Allow me to join in the GMO circlejerk! :D

(http://i.qkme.me/3v00su.jpg)

(http://i.qkme.me/3v00ut.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 27, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/3pdg8d.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2013, 04:41:02 PM
Quote from: tnu on June 27, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/3pdg8d.jpg)
And the memes are made no less awesome or win because of that. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 27, 2013, 04:43:05 PM
[yt]LM2s6pdGgKc[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 27, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/desertdog7788/gunearatf.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2013, 05:51:39 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on June 27, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/desertdog7788/gunearatf.jpg)

Is his finger on the trigger???
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 27, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 27, 2013, 05:51:39 PM
Is his finger on the trigger???

I can't tell from here, but it's still extreme stupidity to hold the barrel to your head. If his finger is on the trigger and if it is loaded all I can say is wow.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2013, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 27, 2013, 05:51:39 PM
Is his finger on the trigger???

does it matter? he's still a dumb-ass.

heck, I can finish the rest:

"the man, in the shock of the blast, accidentally jerks the trigger, and blows his brains out".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2013, 07:25:01 PM
[yt]lWhfKsNv2g4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 27, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on June 27, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/desertdog7788/gunearatf.jpg)

Best part is he's wearing an ATF hat.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 27, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 27, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Best part is he's wearing an ATF hat.

That's the reason why I posted it. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 27, 2013, 08:09:18 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1000800_487533641334344_2023564243_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 27, 2013, 09:40:14 PM
does anybody seriously not understand what the little ring around the trigger is for!? It took me tilmy adult hood but evne I finally freaking figured it out.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 27, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
[yt]ZLTkMYg4zbI[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2013, 11:52:19 PM
Quote from: D on June 27, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
[yt]ZLTkMYg4zbI[/yt]

that talk from the kid was really disturbing shit (yes, the translation is good: it's classical Arabic with a thick Mosili accent).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 28, 2013, 01:14:49 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 27, 2013, 11:52:19 PM
that talk from the kid was really disturbing shit (yes, the translation is good: it's classical Arabic with a thick Mosili accent).

Apparently the US government has not learned it's lesson with their Taliban/Mujaheddin fiasco.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 28, 2013, 01:21:39 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on June 28, 2013, 01:14:49 AM
Apparently the US government has not learned it's lesson with their Taliban/Mujaheddin fiasco.

that it hasn't. And I fear that Syria will end up no unlike Afghanistan. I wish more people though would just get it through their skulls: people there hate the US precisely because of this meddling.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on June 28, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/155341_484187591611949_1477233874_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 28, 2013, 01:34:34 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 28, 2013, 01:21:39 AM
that it hasn't. And I fear that Syria will end up no unlike Afghanistan. I wish more people though would just get it through their skulls: people there hate the US precisely because of this meddling.

No Kidding. Didn't we also supply Assad with chemical weapons? 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 28, 2013, 08:44:11 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 27, 2013, 05:51:39 PM
Is his finger on the trigger???

It certainly looks like it to me, which is so many deadly fails...

Quick review of the relevant rules of gun safety:

#1:  The gun is loaded.  (It doesn't matter that you just removed the mag and ejected the chambered round, it's still loaded because it's assembled.  Working on this basis means you never get the unpleasant surprise of finding that the gun is loaded when you thought it wasn't.)

#2:  Never point a gun at anything you object to putting a round into.

#3:  Never place your finger on the trigger unless you want to fire the gun within the next few seconds.

#4:  During practice, always wear hearing protection adequate for the noise level of your gun and the guns of anyone else practicing at the same time.  Gunshots have all the worst sound qualities for damaging your hearing, and to be any good, especially with a handgun, you need to practice a lot.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 28, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on June 28, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/155341_484187591611949_1477233874_n.jpg)

Not surprisingly, the US population in general agrees with this statement, which is why Barrack Obama polled so badly against Not Barrack Obama before last year's election process.  Why did he win, then?  Because Original Barrack Obama still polled better than White Barrack Obama.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 28, 2013, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 28, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
Not surprisingly, the US population in general agrees with this statement, which is why Barrack Obama polled so badly against Not Barrack Obama before last year's election process.  Why did he win, then?  Because Original Barrack Obama still polled better than White Barrack Obama.

Candidate Obama was preferred over President Obama.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 28, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
[yt]5vJ4zrB41mg[/yt]

it's just lulz.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 28, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
[yt]5vJ4zrB41mg[/yt]

it's just lulz.

I remember this! You posted it here before! :P

As for lulz:

[yt]cYuZlhCPbjM[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 28, 2013, 05:22:22 PM
There's Dawkins, using those all-caps again: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/an-illiterate-disgrace-richard-dawkins-writes-scathing-review-of-amazon-instruction-manual-8678812.html

The review itself: http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2AWT49RTFTY3B/ref=cm_pdp_rev_title_1?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview#RK8LQ93NP1YCI
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 28, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
http://amandabillyrock.com/the-truth-about-anarchism/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 28, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 28, 2013, 05:22:22 PM
There's Dawkins, using those all-caps again: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/an-illiterate-disgrace-richard-dawkins-writes-scathing-review-of-amazon-instruction-manual-8678812.html

The review itself: http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2AWT49RTFTY3B/ref=cm_pdp_rev_title_1?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview#RK8LQ93NP1YCI

LOL
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 28, 2013, 08:26:20 PM
From Yondemasuyo Azazel-san

[yt]wvLtMS_4Fu4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 28, 2013, 09:04:44 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/7967_203368859787100_543074342_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2013, 10:39:31 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Under capitalism everybody is the architect of his own fortune." - Bureaucracy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 29, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HTE2iG7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 29, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
Okay, I'm gonna have to toot my own horn here. I just had a moment. Mathesonguy in these comments (http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=anP42zvPPRQ) asked me to show him "a Tribal society that has accomplished anything great throughout history." This was my response:

QuoteSince you've already stated that you consider great accomplishments to be conquest, this is an invalid request. But since you brought it up, it was early tribal societies that invented spoken and written language, clothing (including weaving fibers), improving food via genetic modification techniques like selective breeding and hybridization, painting and sculpture, numerous inventions such as the wheel, music, construction, pottery, calendars (including calculating solstices and even eclipses), domesticated dogs and other animals, funerals, and tools that were the basis not just for weapons but for everything we do today.

Yeah, they did a lot. They formed the very basis of our civilization, and we stand on their shoulders.

And they did it all without your precious government.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 29, 2013, 05:22:16 PM
[yt]7bcL5_VGmgE[/yt]

It's not often you hear a Fav Quote from MSNBC.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 29, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
Still one of my favorite shows ever:

[yt]PA-omGPUwBE[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/vegans-vegetarians.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/size-11-calibiri.jpg)

True that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 29, 2013, 11:30:16 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 29, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/vegans-vegetarians.png)

But they do like the immigrants--they purchase the products that give them jobs!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2013, 11:45:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 29, 2013, 11:30:16 PM
But they do like the immigrants--they purchase the products that give them jobs!
Indeed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 30, 2013, 03:31:24 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 29, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/size-11-calibiri.jpg)

True that.

Except for grad students in math and hard science, where they expect you to typeset everything, just like they do.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 30, 2013, 04:54:13 PM
(http://hallbuzz.com/images/2013/jun/they_werent_led_astray_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 30, 2013, 07:09:46 PM
Inspired by the Gomez Addams fail from Fail Quotes:

(http://i.qkme.me/3v102w.jpg)

I put it on QuickMeme, so have fun: http://www.quickmeme.com/Crazy-Guy-Feeling-Better/

(BTW, for those who don't know, John Astin also had a recurring role on Night Court, where he played Harry's insane father. "But I'm feeling much better now" was his catchphrase.)

EDIT: Okay, fair's fair:

(http://i.qkme.me/3v104o.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 30, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
Congrats to stef mol for coming up with the YAD, the your a dick principle ;D

[yt]uwrsKGzcZLM[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 01, 2013, 10:46:05 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/334/509/e17.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 01, 2013, 06:52:55 PM
http://wikileaks.org/Statement-from-Edward-Snowden-in.html?snow
Snowden finally makes an official statement since his first interview
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 01, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/liberal-logic-101-428.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 02, 2013, 03:02:01 PM
From the comments of:

[yt]6QRNnayYpDw[/yt]

LiberalH8er1:  "no wonder Russia and China don't respect the USA. This country is pathetic"

Hawkeye:  "They're really in no position to talk since they're ruled by power junkies too. Everyone is and those who say they don't are deluding themselves."

True that. :)

Another from the same comment section:  "What if you are getting bullied by the government?"--r29
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 02, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p480x480/425315_581055521915047_108393095_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 03, 2013, 01:33:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XprWVPC.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 03, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
"Alternate DOMA headline: 'SCOTUS agrees with Koch brothers, strikes down anti-gay law signed by Bill Clinton.'" —@SarcasticTJ
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 03, 2013, 12:36:15 PM
[yt]OWQON4FzQo4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 03, 2013, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 03, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
"Alternate DOMA headline: 'SCOTUS agrees with Koch brothers, strikes down anti-gay law signed by Bill Clinton.'" —@SarcasticTJ
/applause!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 03, 2013, 01:17:15 PM
[yt]OSqkRU8V2iA[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 03, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
[yt]xSOWVqFtZR0[/yt]

It's about time someone made this video. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 03, 2013, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 03, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
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It's about time someone made this video. :)

I should have done it a long time ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 03, 2013, 12:36:15 PM
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Isn't that the so called Harvard Rat? The one they specificaly bred for tumors for their cancer research?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 03, 2013, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Isn't that the so called Harvard Rat? The one they specificaly bred for tumors for their cancer research?

Yep. And they let them live FAR longer than they're ethically supposed to in order to get the biggest tumors possible.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 03, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
Priest: You're not looking for someone to prove you right. You're looking for someone to prove you wrong. You want to believe.

Dr. House: I want to walk through a forest of whore trees. That doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to tell people to fornicate with fruit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 04, 2013, 07:56:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RXDzTGG.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 04, 2013, 07:59:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gRgk8OK.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 04, 2013, 08:00:53 AM
(http://media.cagle.com/124/2013/07/02/134031_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 04, 2013, 11:22:32 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 04, 2013, 07:59:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gRgk8OK.jpg)

Just the last ten years?  Wasn't Regan the last one who even LOOKED like he pulled back AT ALL?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 04, 2013, 11:54:38 AM
My July 4th contribution to this thread:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 04, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
Source (http://amandabillyrock.com/the-united-state-of-one-my-declaration-of-independence/1234/)

QuoteWhen in the Course of my Life, it becomes necessary for me to dissolve the political bands which have connected me with those who would oppress me, and to assume the powers inherent to my Nature, a decent respect for my opinion of myself requires that I declare the causes which impel my separation.

I hold these truths to be self-evident, that it is the Birthright of the Individual to live free, that the rule of one person over another is unnatural and illegitimate, and that Voluntary interaction is the only way by which humanity can rise above poverty and savagery.

That to promote this condition in the past, some men instituted Governments over others without their unanimous consent, which has demonstrated to the world that Government by its very nature must violate Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness to maintain its existence. In addition, the Right of the People to acquire, maintain, and defend Property has been demonstrated to be the key tenet of Liberty; the alteration or abolition of one Government for another has been demonstrated to be an exercise in futility.

The history of the State is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over my sisters, my brothers, and myself. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

It has demanded our property through direct threat and enactment of violence.

It has assaulted, tortured, imprisoned, and murdered innocents at home and abroad.

It has forced us to use its monopoly currency so that it may steal from us with and without taxation.

It has conscripted our brothers to fight and die in its wars of profit-seeking and domination.

It has forbidden us to own weaponry which it itself uses, purposely and gradually disarming us in every way it can manage.

It has demanded that we gain its permission to buy, sell, and trade one with another.

It has demanded that tribute be paid to itself on all forms of property and in all acts of exchange.

It has kidnapped and caged us for possession of plants.

It has forbidden various consensual interactions.

It has forbidden our communication and trade with certain of our brothers and sisters around the world.

It has claimed ownership of our children through forced indoctrination and public debt.

It has spied upon the communications, both digital and personal, of ourselves and our brothers and sisters around the world.

It has demanded that we acquire, keep, and produce identifying documents upon demand.

It has polluted the skies, land, and water with impunity.

It has branded us with nine-digit tracking numbers.

It has abolished the rule of law, perverted justice, and utterly abolished its own constitution, giving impunity to its police, its military, and its corporate benefactors.

It has lied, deceived, and covered-up its secret deeds and has hunted down as enemies those who dare to reveal them.

In short, it has committed every act which would be considered unspeakably abhorrent if committed by an individual, establishing a state of utter Lawlessness and Terror.

I, therefore, representing myself, appealing to the Reason of every Individual who longs to live as his Nature disposes him – in Freedom – solemnly publish and declare that I have the Right to be Free and Independent, that I am Absolved from Allegiance to any State, and that all political connection between myself and any State is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as a Free and Independent person, I have the Right to resist all forms of aggression upon myself and my property. For the support of this Declaration, I invoke the solemn sanctity of my existence as an Individual, justified by the fact that I am alive.

Amanda BillyRock
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 05, 2013, 01:27:08 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/601689_10151493388839117_2109628275_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on July 05, 2013, 02:20:38 PM
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Great vid as always Shane ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 05, 2013, 09:21:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YBMZVHB.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 05, 2013, 09:23:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ibsw9na.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 06, 2013, 12:42:36 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18708_5-reasons-immortality-would-be-worse-than-death.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 07, 2013, 08:25:12 PM
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Finally a woman who gets it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 08, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
"Blaming greed for a crisis is like blaming gravity for a plane crash."

—OptimalOwl, in these comments:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 09, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
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Mister Sterling? You absolutely hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 09, 2013, 04:03:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 09, 2013, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: D on July 09, 2013, 04:03:26 PM
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+1 (OK -1 in this system).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 10, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
I just got back from watching The Lone Ranger. Considering all the bad reviews it's received, I thought the movie was going to suck, but it turned out to be awesome. It started a little slow, and there were a few unnecessary gross-out moments (like the Ranger being pulled through horse poo), but overall, it had some hilarious comedy and great action scenes, including the epic train scene at the end--complete with the Lone Ranger's theme!

There were two quotes during the movie which, as a libertarian, really struck me as awesome.

The first one was at the beginning of the movie. The character that would become the Lone Ranger is riding a train full of Presbyterians. One of them invites him to pray. "Much obliged," he tells her before lifting up a copy of John Locke's Two Treatises of Government, "But this here's my Bible." I'm not sure if it's cool that a movie referenced John Locke, or sad that this is probably the only chance many are going to hear about Locke.

The second quote comes near the end when the Lone Ranger discovers the intentions of the villain, a railroad tycoon who had the Comanche tribe exterminated by the Calvary in order to build a railway across their land. "If that man represents the law," the Lone Ranger says, "then I much rather be an outlaw." I don't know much about the original Lone Ranger, but if he's anything like the Lone Ranger in the movie, he very well could have been one of the first anarchists. (You know, aside from Robin Hood.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 10, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 10, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
I just got back from watching The Lone Ranger. Considering all the bad reviews it's received, I thought the movie was going to suck, but it turned out to be awesome. It started a little slow, and there were a few unnecessary gross-out moments (like the Ranger being pulled through horse poo), but overall, it had some hilarious comedy and great action scenes, including the epic train scene at the end--complete with the Lone Ranger's theme!

There were two quotes during the movie which, as a libertarian, really struck me as awesome.

The first one was at the beginning of the movie. The character that would become the Lone Ranger is riding a train full of Presbyterians. One of them invites him to pray. "Much obliged," he tells her before lifting up a copy of John Locke's Two Treatises of Government, "But this here's my Bible." I'm not sure if it's cool that a movie referenced John Locke, or sad that this is probably the only chance many are going to hear about Locke.

The second quote comes near the end when the Lone Ranger discovers the intentions of the villain, a railroad tycoon who had the Comanche tribe exterminated by the Calvary in order to build a railway across their land. "If that man represents the law," the Lone Ranger says, "then I much rather be an outlaw." I don't know much about the original Lone Ranger, but if he's anything like the Lone Ranger in the movie, he very well could have been one of the first anarchists. (You know, aside from Robin Hood.)

Oh people hear about Locke all the time. but only the social contract and how it justifies governments in every imaginable way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 10, 2013, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: tnu on July 10, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
Oh people hear about Locke all the time. but only the social contract and how it justifies governments in every imaginable way.

Which wasn't at all what Locke said.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 10, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
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SHANE used PENCIL.

It's super effective!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 10, 2013, 09:43:36 PM
"First they came for the blacks, and I spoke up because it was wrong, even though I'm not black.

Then they came for the gays, and I spoke up, even though I'm not gay.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I spoke up, because it was wrong, even though I'm an atheist.

When they came for illegal aliens, I spoke up, even though I'm a legal immigrant.

Then they came for the pornographers, rebels and dissenters and their speech and flag burning, and I spoke up, because rights are not only for the establishment.

Then they came for the gun owners, and you liberal shitbags threw me under the bus, even though I'd done nothing wrong.  So when they come to put you on the train, you can fucking choke and die."

Michael Williamson
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 11, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 11, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 11, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
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Great! Reminds me of this one:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 11, 2013, 06:15:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 11, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Great! Reminds me of this one:

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Which also kinda reminds me of this one (epic win):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2013, 02:38:08 PM
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Fucking win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 12, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
Well, on the opposite side of the of the Tom Woods/Skeptical Libertarian bullshit, Dan Bier of The Skeptical Libertarian posted this on Tom Woods' page:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2ib0s1u.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2013, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: D on July 12, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
Well, on the opposite side of the of the Tom Woods/Skeptical Libertarian bullshit, Dan Bier of The Skeptical Libertarian posted this on Tom Woods' page:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2ib0s1u.jpg)

True that.
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http://www.cracked.com/article_18620_6-completely-legal-ways-cops-can-screw-you.html
Oh goodie, a few more ways we don't need cops.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 12, 2013, 10:59:53 PM
Julie Borowski in response to Janet Napolitano resigning from the DHS.

"Bye Janet. I'll miss your creepy voice during my morning commute."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on July 13, 2013, 12:27:18 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941572_649474871746006_2142169959_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 13, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 11, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
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Something tells me this was prompted by my post on the fail quotes thread.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 14, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
Remember that little girl Abby who was crying because of hearing so much about Obama and Romny? Somebody did a response to that where they used a puppet to chear her up. But the best part is one of the top comments.



Quoteif i wanted to see a puppet talk i woulda watched Obamney on tv
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 14, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: tnu on July 14, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
Remember that little girl Abby who was crying because of hearing so much about Obama and Romny? Somebody did a response to that where they used a puppet to chear her up. But the best part is one of the top comments.

Link?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fluoride-lowers-your-iq-b.s.-headline-week/
One of Wong's better works. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 14, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 14, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Link?

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Original video.

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The next video where the comment was psoted.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2013, 10:43:32 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Abortion-since-I-haven-t-covered-it-382518716

In particular, this paragraph:
"Another issue nobody talks about is the excuse it gives women excuses for irresponsible behavior.  Thanks to horrifically unfair laws, women can get pregnant and ensnare men financially against their will even if the man at no point EVER agreed to fatherhood and with abortion banned, the woman is absolutely in the clear to do this and the father has no say in the matter. It's not just a woman issue folks.  It takes two sexes to make a baby." --Quote his, emphasis mine.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 14, 2013, 11:40:55 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-astounding-screw-ups-government-workers-failed-to-notice/
Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 15, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 15, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-astounding-screw-ups-government-workers-failed-to-notice/
Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen!

From the article:

QuoteWhat the victims didn't know -- until they called the number and heard heavy moaning on the other side -- was that the "24-hour hotline service" actually referred to a sex line. Apparently, these exact pamphlets have been going out for several years and no one noticed the mistake, despite the fact that the real support center doesn't even have an 800 number.

Because no one was calling it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 15, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 15, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-astounding-screw-ups-government-workers-failed-to-notice/
Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen!

One of these fuck-ups is not like the others.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2013, 12:29:06 AM
Quote from: tnu on July 15, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
One of these fuck-ups is not like the others.
Elaborate.  :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 16, 2013, 12:47:01 AM
Dragons should not be bitches

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 16, 2013, 08:02:41 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 16, 2013, 12:29:06 AM
Elaborate.  :3

At a guess...one of them was both not in the US and accidentally doing something GOOD.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 16, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
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I know someone posted this in Fail Quotes, but personally, I thought it was epic win! :D

"I'm sympathetic to the pro-life position because actually, a long time ago, I used to be a fetus."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 16, 2013, 02:03:42 PM
I normally don't like this guy, but darn if his analysis of the Zimmerman media circus trial isn't spot on.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
"Another argument of the anti-abortionists is that the fetus is a living human being, and is therefore entitled to all of the rights of human beings. Very good; let us concede, for purposes of the discussion, that fetuses are human beings—or, more broadly, potential human beings—and are therefore entitled to full human rights. But what humans, we may ask, have the right to be coercive parasites within the body of an unwilling human host? Clearly no born humans have such a right, and therefore, a fortiori, the fetus can have no such right either."--Murray N. Rothbard, from The Ethics of Liberty, page 98 (thanks Shane! :) )
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 16, 2013, 05:00:13 PM
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An interesting video about Anita Sarkeesian
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 16, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 16, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
"Another argument of the anti-abortionists is that the fetus is a living human being, and is therefore entitled to all of the rights of human beings. Very good; let us concede, for purposes of the discussion, that fetuses are human beings—or, more broadly, potential human beings—and are therefore entitled to full human rights. But what humans, we may ask, have the right to be coercive parasites within the body of an unwilling human host? Clearly no born humans have such a right, and therefore, a fortiori, the fetus can have no such right either."--Murray N. Rothbard, from The Ethics of Liberty (I don't know which page--Dave shared the quote)

Page 98.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2013, 06:15:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 16, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
Page 98.
Fixed, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 16, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tuYBiio.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 17, 2013, 12:57:45 AM
well... smoking does affect those around the smoker. Even if it's just the long prehensile tounge choking you to death.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 17, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 17, 2013, 12:57:45 AM
well... smoking does affect those around the smoker. Even if it's just the long prehensile tounge choking you to death.

They can move.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 17, 2013, 05:38:28 PM
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Pretty win all around, but the best line is at the very end:
"Don't ever let your politics determine your science."

A lesson people of all political viewpoints should learn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 17, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
"Given the results of the War on Poverty and the War on Drugs, if the government starts a War on Abortion, in five years men will be having abortions." —Harry Browne
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2013, 12:12:08 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2013, 12:18:26 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2013, 12:48:14 AM
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One of his best.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 18, 2013, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on July 17, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
They can move.

if you don't like this country, move...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2013, 10:11:14 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 18, 2013, 01:16:33 AM
if you don't like this country, move...
I think that was the joke, Gumba. :P
Also, look at some of the videos I posted above.  He's doing a podcast and holding a microphone--while driving. :P 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 20, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
With all the demagoguery and muckraking over Detroit's bankruptcy, what the city really needs right now is a solution to its problems, and this video provides it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 20, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 21, 2013, 05:52:36 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 20, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
With all the demagoguery and muckraking over Detroit's bankruptcy, what the city really needs right now is a solution to its problems, and this video provides it:

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Wait.... is he counting Eminem, Ted Nugent and the ICP as reasons to save Detroid? And people claim I'm the insane one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 21, 2013, 03:15:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uQdiG7L.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 21, 2013, 07:40:06 PM
This Video about how modern Superhero movies with huge collateral damage is very good you guys have to check this out it is full of win

http://blip.tv/foldablehuman/s3e5-the-people-vs-clark-kent-6618856
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 21, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/580281_699931236686892_1388181452_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 21, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: D on July 21, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/580281_699931236686892_1388181452_n.jpg)
Aw, snap!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 24, 2013, 12:12:08 AM
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TJ hits it out of the park
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 24, 2013, 01:27:47 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1069997_10151573562963131_37918867_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 24, 2013, 02:14:00 PM
I know everypony on here is pro-abortion, BUT this video was epic win in my eyes:

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Well, everypony, the questions have been served. Your move!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 24, 2013, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 24, 2013, 02:14:00 PMI know everypony on here is pro-choice...
Fixed.  We aren't for using the state to force abortions, anymore than we are on the state to force/fund drugs.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 24, 2013, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 24, 2013, 02:14:00 PM
I know everypony on here is pro-abortion, BUT this video was epic win in my eyes:

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Well, everypony, the questions have been served. Your move!

1. Strawman.

2. Non sequitur.

3. The outcome of Abortion Prohibition will be the same, too: you won't stop abortions, but you'll drag them underground and this will result in the same horrors we saw back when abortions WERE restricted. (That's right, we don't have to speculate here.)

4. Strawman again. The infant is no longer acting as a parasite on the mother.

5. Let's not go pretending that government bans (or anything else done by government) has ANYTHING to do with the "sanctity of life," okay?

6. Because those things themselves are people using force against others. Just as you can't use force to impose your morality on us, we can't initiate any kind of force against anyone else, either.

6a. Anarchy? The horror! The horror!

7. Hate crimes are bogus.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 24, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
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Stefan with a win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 24, 2013, 11:29:15 PM
"When Republicans say limited government, they apparently mean government limited to them and their supporters." —JJ Summerell (LPNC Chair)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 25, 2013, 11:47:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/BDfGB44.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 25, 2013, 12:55:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 25, 2013, 01:41:39 PM
Wow.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on July 25, 2013, 02:44:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 25, 2013, 05:03:18 PM
Never imagined that I would submit an article from Big "Think" to Fav Quotes, but this article is win, win, win, win!

The Upward Spiral of Capitalism and the End of Poverty (http://bigthink.com/videos/the-upward-spiral-of-capitalism-and-the-end-of-poverty)

QuoteI think the zero-sum worldview is the predominate one.  I think it's something we've evolved with this idea that there is a limited fixed pie and we have to distribute that pie in an equal fair way, that no one should get unfair large pieces of that pie and if someone is getting a bigger piece, necessarily someone else may be getting a smaller piece since there is a finite amount of pie to go around.  I also think it comes from our competitive sports, in that in competitive sports there is a winner and there is a loser. And so we play games, we play sports all our lives, so we've come to believe that in the zero-sum worldview that some are winners and some are losers and then we... in a just society then there should be no losers.  There should be... so we need to limit the pieces of the pie anyone gets, so that everyone can have a fair and just piece of the pie.

So I reject that.  I don't think there is a necessarily a fixed pie.  The beauty of capitalism, the beauty of "conscious capitalism" is the realization that the pie can grow, that through voluntary exchange and through the value creation that happens when the stakeholders voluntarily cooperate and voluntarily exchange with each other is that the pie grows larger. And so there is more to distribute and that distribution takes place through the market processes, through the exchange process as each of the traders of course wants to get a bigger piece for themselves and competition sort of ultimately determines the percentages that each of the different constituencies or stakeholders gets in the exchanges.

But that is a growing pie and it's a win, win, win, win, win game and that turns me on.  I'm very fired up and excited about that because it means human flourishing isn't trapped in some type of a limited set of constraints.  It means we can innovate and create our ways out of any of these traps, any of these sort of...  I can't remember or think of the phrase right now.  I'm trying to recall, but.... this idea that we're in some type of trap of limited resources and the only limitations we have are the limitations of human creativity, human imagination and intellectual capital that has been accumulated.  As we continue to gain intellectual capital and as human creativity is unleashed and human entrepreneurship is unleashed then the new innovations, the new creativity that expresses itself through the marketplace, through capitalism allows us to solve problems that previously were thought to be unsolvable and humans continue on the upward spiral.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 25, 2013, 07:24:15 PM
I gotta remember not to never read the comments
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Post by: Dukect45 on July 25, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 26, 2013, 04:59:22 AM
You do realise that the whole debacle in Detroid was probably caused by someone watching Robocop way back when thinking "Heck, I want my cyborg cop. That'll be cool." So they all would work thrice as hard to make suzre that their once proud city would meet the outset required of the movie.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 26, 2013, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 26, 2013, 04:59:22 AM
You do realise that the whole debacle in Detroit was probably caused by someone watching Robocop way back when thinking "Heck, I want my cyborg cop. That'll be cool." So they all would work thrice as hard to make sure that their once proud city would meet the outset required of the movie.

Well instead of this Robocop
(http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/blog_post_media/public/images/robocop_6.jpg?itok=MGebPRsc)

We get this one
(http://cdn2-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2013/05/robocop_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 27, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
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Religious people ask what's our beef with them?
This!  This is our beef with them!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2013, 08:52:12 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 27, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
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Religious people ask what's our beef with them?
This!  This is our beef with them!
*standing oviation!*
Granted, Jesus *did* state that the old testament laws were not being abolished (Mathew 5:17 I think it was?) and there were those versus of bring the non-Christians to him and slay them before him, among others.  But yeah, the central point--of Christians and bias confirmation still sticks.  Very good video and glad to see one with Stef with his game otherwise on. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 27, 2013, 01:45:21 PM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on July 28, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
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The beard is back
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2013, 02:45:08 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-doctors-who-just-gave-worlds-worst-medical-advice/
Isn't govco doing such a good job protecting us from this kind of bullshit? Oh wait...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 28, 2013, 05:28:44 PM
With the current national discussion over minimum wage, it seems as though Shane's explanation of why minimum wage hasn't risen with inflation (and why Sen. Elizabeth Warren is an "Idiot Extraordinaire" for suggesting that minimum wage be raised) is needed now more than ever.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 28, 2013, 10:46:14 PM
Here's some win for the Pro Wrestling fans here

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 29, 2013, 12:09:29 AM
"If I had to pick out the one question that I think is the most important of all it is this: Have you ever held a job that caused a body part to hurt at the end of the day? It's okay if you just have feet that ache because you've been standing on your feet all day. That counts too.

But if you have never held such a job, you are intrinsically, inherently, ineluctably unable to understand the lives of a great many of your fellow countrymen who do hold such jobs. I hope that the quiz has had a salutary effect on bringing to people's attention the degree to which they live in a bubble that seals them off from an awful lot of their fellow American citizens."

Charles Murray
His vid on Big Think "Are you a snob?  Take the test"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on July 29, 2013, 04:46:51 AM
I'm sorry if I already posted this but I really don't remember and the forums have been lagging like crazy for me for weeks. I just have to share this if I haven't.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on July 29, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
(http://www.moonbattery.com/socialism-demotivational2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 29, 2013, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 29, 2013, 12:09:29 AM
"If I had to pick out the one question that I think is the most important of all it is this: Have you ever held a job that caused a body part to hurt at the end of the day? It's okay if you just have feet that ache because you've been standing on your feet all day. That counts too.

But if you have never held such a job, you are intrinsically, inherently, ineluctably unable to understand the lives of a great many of your fellow countrymen who do hold such jobs. I hope that the quiz has had a salutary effect on bringing to people's attention the degree to which they live in a bubble that seals them off from an awful lot of their fellow American citizens."

Charles Murray
His vid on Big Think "Are you a snob?  Take the test"

My first job and my current job both have that property.  That first job caused me to resolve ot strive to never have to hold such a job again.  As with many things in life, life handed me a situation where I had the choice and decided the hob that made me hurt was a better choice (since I could readily calculate how much more the commute would cost than the slightly higher wages would be).  I later learned that it would have been employment by a company I would prefer to never work for again (not really bad, just quite indifferently managed and treating workers as extremely replaceable due to the experience of replacing them so fast) in a building I loathed working in before (where it was an actively malevolently and stupidly mismanaged company that's continued to slide further and further towards oblivion since then).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 30, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
I know it's been posted before, but I just can't get enough of it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 30, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
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This seems interesting
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 01, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
Libertarian Candidate for Florida Governor Adrian Wyllie speaks at Lake Wales, FL:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 02, 2013, 03:29:41 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2013, 01:01:16 AM
a joke from some Palestinians I found to be a favorite (warning, kinda morbid and messed up):

Quotethere was a guy from Hebron named Abd ali, who had a corner store called "Abd Ali and associates". Some police saw this and asked him: "who are your associates?" so he said "I'm alone--that's just the name". The police, angered, replied "that is Fraud!", so they beat him up.

He was so humiliated by this that he Moved from Palestine to Saudi Arabia, where he founded a new store, "Abd Ali al-wahid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Wahid#List_of_names_and_attributes_of_God_as_found_in_the_Qur.27an)" (Abd Ali (lit. Servent of Ali) the one). The local authorities promptly beheaded him.

And another:

QuoteOnce a boy asked his father for two shekels, to take a round trip by bus through a check point. The father only gives him one, saying "you don't need the other: you'll come home in an ambulance!"


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 03, 2013, 01:07:37 AM
I think you'll have to explain the first one more.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2013, 04:18:49 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 03, 2013, 01:07:37 AM
I think you'll have to explain the first one more.


think about it: he was a lone grocery owner who had a store called "Abd Ali and Associates" back in Hebron, Palestine. when he moved over (after being beaten for this) to Saudi Arabia, he renamed the store "Abd Ali the one", which in Arabic is "Abd-Ali Al-wahid", to advertise that he was the only owner of the store. I linked the Wikipedia article, so you can see the joke behind this--or rather, the irony.

It's actually one of a whole series of jokes about people from Hebron--stereotypically depicted as absent minded, stupid, clumsy, or stubborn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 03, 2013, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 03, 2013, 04:18:49 AM

think about it: he was a lone grocery owner who had a store called "Abd Ali and Associates" back in Hebron, Palestine. when he moved over (after being beaten for this) to Saudi Arabia, he renamed the store "Abd Ali the one", which in Arabic is "Abd-Ali Al-wahid", to advertise that he was the only owner of the store. I linked the Wikipedia article, so you can see the joke behind this--or rather, the irony.

It's actually one of a whole series of jokes about people from Hebron--stereotypically depicted as absent minded, stupid, clumsy, or stubborn.

So Hebron fulfills a role in Palestinian humor similar to the role of Chelm, Poland in traditional Jewish humor, Newfoundland in Canadian humor, and the entire country of Poland in American humor.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 03, 2013, 04:19:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 03, 2013, 06:52:27 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 03, 2013, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on August 03, 2013, 04:19:20 PM
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*standing ovation!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2013, 07:38:54 PM
From the latest photoplasty ( http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_635_if-corporate-mascots-were-more-accurate_p2/ )
Number 2:

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I haven't tried Ubuntu yet, but if that's true, I'm kinda disappointed.  Last I checked, having a GUI is pretty much mandatory in this day and age.
So Shane, just how much truth is behind that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 04, 2013, 07:38:54 PM
From the latest photoplasty ( http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_635_if-corporate-mascots-were-more-accurate_p2/ )
Number 2:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/3/7/1/199371_v1.jpg)
I haven't tried Ubuntu yet, but if that's true, I'm kinda disappointed.  Last I checked, having a GUI is pretty much mandatory in this day and age.
So Shane, just how much truth is behind that?

I have no clue what they're trying to say. Yes, GUIs come by default with desktop Linux distros, and if anything the newer ones are more user friendly than Windows (CERTAINLY Windows 8!).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
I have no clue what they're trying to say. Yes, GUIs come by default with desktop Linux distros, and if anything the newer ones are more user friendly than Windows (CERTAINLY Windows 8!).
They seem to be saying that it's very programming like.  As in you'd have to know how to work without a user interface about 30 years ago.  Thought it sounds like for the newer ones that's not the case.  And if what John Cheese has said about Windows 8 is any indicator (all the icons and stuff I'm familiar with--the red x for example) being either moved or gone...well...yeah.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 04, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
They seem to be saying that it's very programming like.  As in you'd have to know how to work without a user interface about 30 years ago.  Thought it sounds like for the newer ones that's not the case.  And if what John Cheese has said about Windows 8 is any indicator (all the icons and stuff I'm familiar with--the red x for example) being either moved or gone...well...yeah.

See how well Joe Pirillo did:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
See how well Joe Pirillo did:

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NVM, just read the desc.  It's his dad.
Also...OMFG! That looks horrible! WTF was Microsoft thinking?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 04, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
See how well Joe Pirillo did:

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personally I'm waiting for a way for the guys at the linux distro series to create a version that can run windows programs directly: emulators and me are kind of like oil and water  :-[
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 04, 2013, 09:29:12 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 04, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
personally I'm waiting for a way for the guys at the linux distro series to create a version that can run windows programs directly: emulators and me are kind of like oil and water  :-[
Seconded.  Though, even with emulators, it'd still be better if that video was any indicator. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 04, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
personally I'm waiting for a way for the guys at the linux distro series to create a version that can run windows programs directly: emulators and me are kind of like oil and water  :-[

That's what WINE is. It isn't an emulator. (That's what it stands for, actually: WINE Is Not an Emulator.) The only reason why it doesn't work any better than it does is Microsoft didn't follow their own standards when they made Windows, so they have to try and duplicate all the bugs, too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
That's what WINE is. It isn't an emulator. (That's what it stands for, actually: WINE Is Not an Emulator.) The only reason why it doesn't work any better than it does is Microsoft didn't follow their own standards when they made Windows, so they have to try and duplicate all the bugs, too.
I'll really have to message/PM you more about this stuff myself. :P  I can't help but have internet in it given the bullshit Microsoft pulled with the PRISM program and even moreso given the failed partial-birth abortion that is Windows 8.  And Apple is too expensive (A one button mouse? Dude, I play World of Warcraft, that shit ain't gonna fly).

Speaking of Apple, if ever I seem...iffy about accepting the idea that a computer running Ubuntu (or other Linux stuff) can't get a virus (something you told me before), in my defense, it would be because I'd be inoculated by Apple fan-boys who make the claim of their fav products.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 12:37:13 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 05, 2013, 12:00:46 AMSpeaking of Apple, if ever I seem...iffy about accepting the idea that a computer running Ubuntu (or other Linux stuff) can't get a virus (something you told me before), in my defense, it would be because I'd be inoculated by Apple fan-boys who make the claim of their fav products.

It would have to be a very specific kind of virus, something that ran where it could replicate itself--Java, maybe, if that version just happens to have the wrong bug. But as long as you don't run as root (and no distro is going to set it up that way), there's no way a virus could take over your system and replicate, unless you were dumb enough to give it root access yourself.

It can be a carrier, though; if an infected Windows user sends you a file, the virus won't run, but you would send that virus on to other Windows users who get that file.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 05, 2013, 01:29:07 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 04, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
That's what WINE is. It isn't an emulator. (That's what it stands for, actually: WINE Is Not an Emulator.) The only reason why it doesn't work any better than it does is Microsoft didn't follow their own standards when they made Windows, so they have to try and duplicate all the bugs, too.

I see.

yeah, I just looked up WINE: very tempting stuff.  All that is left is to firstly make sure it will work with certain specific programs (for work, school, and some personal things), and see to it it can run my ASUS as designed or close to it as possible.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 07:40:04 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 05, 2013, 01:29:07 AMyeah, I just looked up WINE: very tempting stuff.  All that is left is to firstly make sure it will work with certain specific programs (for work, school, and some personal things), and see to it it can run my ASUS as designed or close to it as possible.

Here's a place where people report what apps they've been able to get to work, or not: http://appdb.winehq.org/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 05, 2013, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 12:37:13 AM
It would have to be a very specific kind of virus, something that ran where it could replicate itself--Java, maybe, if that version just happens to have the wrong bug. But as long as you don't run as root (and no distro is going to set it up that way), there's no way a virus could take over your system and replicate, unless you were dumb enough to give it root access yourself.

It's been DONE, but the onl Linux-based virus I've ever seen was really more of a worm, and needed things like permission from the user to actually install itself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 05, 2013, 08:22:56 AM
It's been DONE, but the onl Linux-based virus I've ever seen was really more of a worm, and needed things like permission from the user to actually install itself.

Right, and modern distros would actually pop up a password prompt, and you'd have to actually do that to get it to run as root.

It's not impossible, but it's so difficult that none have actually been able to make it in the wild.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2013, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 08:53:10 AM
Right, and modern distros would actually pop up a password prompt, and you'd have to actually do that to get it to run as root.

It's not impossible, but it's so difficult that none have actually been able to make it in the wild.
A lot harder than with Microsoft Windows, I take it.
So what about malware, spyware, etc?  Should I get an anti-virus just for those, use Malwarebytes/SpybotSearchanddestroy, or something else?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2013, 01:28:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 05, 2013, 12:48:48 PM
A lot harder than with Microsoft Windows, I take it.
So what about malware, spyware, etc?  Should I get an anti-virus just for those, use Malwarebytes/SpybotSearchanddestroy, or something else?

You can get the usual browser plugins to block stuff like that. There's also a free command line version of Avast!, but all that really does is scan your files for Windows viruses.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 05, 2013, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 05, 2013, 12:48:48 PM
A lot harder than with Microsoft Windows, I take it.
So what about malware, spyware, etc?  Should I get an anti-virus just for those, use Malwarebytes/SpybotSearchanddestroy, or something else?

Malware of other types depends on what you're using.  If you use things like Flash and Java, it is (at least in principle) possible for malware to be written inside a platform-independent runtime environment.  However, this sort is far less dangerous (and far less useful to crackers) than native OS-level malware because the inherent security model of those platforms greatly restricts what it can do without explicit permission.  Even what it can do is less effective, because Linux distros don't always put things in the same places.  This makes it harder for malware to find, say, your email settings and start sending out spam if it does get in and somehow run without being noticed.  (The whole structure of a UNIX-like OS makes malare far more difficult to write.  The people who developed the security systems for this class of OSes were often the ones who wrote blindingly obvious attack programs for other multiuser OSes that didn't have good security models, and the originators had been working on Multics, the most secure OS written for a long time, possibly ever.  Check The Jargon File for some examples of these attack programs and why they were written.)

If you're passing files to and from Windows machines, however, you would be polite to get yourself a good scanner to check the files you're passing in and out of your Linux box to not act as a carrier.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on August 05, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
If you want anti-virus on Linux, I think using the clamav daemon is the best.  Low resources, on-access scanning, the best coverage for Linux specific viruses and pretty good coverage of Windows.  There are other things you can due to prevent them as well, like PaX, SELinux, etc. but they are more specific to particular distributions.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 05, 2013, 06:03:44 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on August 05, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
If you want anti-virus on Linux, I think using the clamav daemon is the best.  Low resources, on-access scanning, the best coverage for Linux specific viruses and pretty good coverage of Windows.  There are other things you can due to prevent them as well, like PaX, SELinux, etc. but they are more specific to particular distributions.
ClamAV is pretty much for email servers. I don't think the normal user would need it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on August 05, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Personally, I believe in a defense-in-depth approach and, like evensgrey suggested, want to be nice to Windows users by scanning the files get and any that I pass on.  But I agree, that it is probably not necessary for a home user that doesn't run as root on most modern Linux installations.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 06, 2013, 04:51:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 06, 2013, 10:02:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on August 07, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
Quote from: D on August 06, 2013, 10:02:38 PM
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LMAO
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 07, 2013, 03:03:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 08, 2013, 03:38:07 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 08, 2013, 08:09:13 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 08, 2013, 03:38:07 AM
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I don't know what video you were trying to embed, but you definitely pasted in the wrong thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
From this:  http://blamethe1st.tumblr.com/post/57708764403/yoisthisracist-anonymous-asked-i-used-to-be-a

"I used to be a statist, then I graduated college and got better. My dumb government-worshipping beliefs also died not long after that.


Honestly, I get how feeling that the government can solve everything might seem logical, if you're super stupid, have no understanding of how the world works (especially economics), and are an entitled teenager. Everyone else, you have no excuse. Entitled teenagers, you actually don't have any excuse either."

BTF's bit on that stuff he posted in fail quotes. Well played.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2013, 02:16:05 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20561_5-myths-about-illegal-drugs-you-probably-believe.html
Epic win thus far. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: tnu on July 09, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
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Mister Sterling? You absolutely hit the nail on the head.
Funny he should cozy up to steam in that.
A true story (incoming wall 'o text):

Since I was at dorm at university, I didn't really have the time to update steam on this computer (my desktop at home), so when I go to have it updated, it has about 96 MB (or more) worth of it.  No problem, I attempt to download it...and it says I was haven't network issues in that steam must be online...
Odd, my connection was good at the time...no worries, I try again, thinking it will resume.

I mean, hell, even Blizzard has enough brain-cells to know that not everyone has a 100 GB/s connection especially here in the states, right? I restart steam and it starts the updating from the beginning with the same end result of no luck*  "Well, this is lame." I thought to myself. "This means I can't play the two games--Terraria and Skyrim--that I legally purchased because you need to be online to play them."  No connection, no game.

Needless to say, I felt scammed.  I was considering pirating them--I couldn't play my own legally purchased games ffs!--when I had a whiz kid moment.  Before I had to leave the dorm for good (lease ran out not too long ago), I updated steam best I could on my laptop--my university has a smoking fast internet connection.  I've clocked it at between 50 to 100+ times faster than my home connection of 40 KB/s to 86 KB/s.  With that done, I then grab the steam files from the programs folder of my laptop and put/replace/merge them with the ones on my desktop.  I crossed my fingers as I did the transfer (using an external HDD, natch.  It was over 10 GB of files, much too big for a tiny 4 GB thumbdrive.)  After the transfer, I try and start steam and after being told to update it (like before), I cringe, but it actually finished this time and I could play my games!  Sheesh.

So yeah, "it's not yet perfect"--biggest understatement of the fucking decade, Sterling.  Had I not had access to my university's connection, I would no longer be able to play my own fucking games!

*As Shane said: "Not resumable?  Inexcusable in this day and age!  And they wonder why people resort to piracy."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 08, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Funny he should cozy up to steam in that.
A true story (incoming wall 'o text):

Since I was at dorm at university, I didn't really have the time to update steam on this computer (my desktop at home), so when I go to have it updated, it has about 96 MB (or more) worth of it.  No problem, I attempt to download it...and it says I was haven't network issues in that steam must be online...
Odd, my connection was good at the time...no worries, I try again, thinking it will resume.

I mean, hell, even Blizzard has enough brain-cells to know that not everyone has a 100 GB/s connection especially here in the states, right? I restart steam and it starts the updating from the beginning with the same end result of no luck*  "Well, this is lame." I thought to myself. "This means I can't play the two games--Terraria and Skyrim--that I legally purchased because you need to be online to play them."  No connection, no game.

Needless to say, I felt scammed.  I was considering pirating them--I couldn't play my own legally purchased games ffs!--when I had a whiz kid moment.  Before I had to leave the dorm for good (lease ran out not too long ago), I updated steam best I could on my laptop--my university has a smoking fast internet connection.  I've clocked it at between 50 to 100+ times faster than my home connection of 40 KB/s to 86 KB/s.  With that done, I then grab the steam files from the programs folder of my laptop and put/replace/merge them with the ones on my desktop.  I crossed my fingers as I did the transfer (using an external HDD, natch.  It was over 10 GB of files, much too big for a tiny 4 GB thumbdrive.)  After the transfer, I try and start steam and after being told to update it (like before), I cringe, but it actually finished this time and I could play my games!  Sheesh.

So yeah, "it's not yet perfect"--biggest understatement of the fucking decade, Sterling.  Had I not had access to my university's connection, I would no longer be able to play my own fucking games!

*As Shane said: "Not resumable?  Inexcusable in this day and age!  And they wonder why people resort to piracy."

And to update, despite being able to play the games as recently as last Saturday, when I try to play them from Steam now, I get a window saying "Steam:  Scanning for Steam games updates" that doesn't use any bandwidth (read: is just spinning its wheels) rendering me stuck *yet again* and unable to play my own fucking games.   Fuck you, Valve.

Update: it finished and I can play my games once more.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 09, 2013, 08:29:56 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 09, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
From Sam Harris's MMA instructor and someone I've trained with numerous times, Matt Thornton.

"I came to three conclusions about PZ sometime ago. The first and last are in my opinion, self evident. The second is conjecture.

1) He's a dick.

2) Based on things he's said and written I think he may be mentally ill.

3) His thinking in the last few years seems to run about as deep as that of the Christian apologists, he doesn't just have weak arguments, he really has none."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 09, 2013, 11:10:40 AM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 09, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
From Sam Harris's MMA instructor and someone I've trained with numerous times, Matt Thornton.

"I came to three conclusions about PZ sometime ago. The first and last are in my opinion, self evident. The second is conjecture.

1) He's a dick.

2) Based on things he's said and written I think he may be mentally ill.

3) His thinking in the last few years seems to run about as deep as that of the Christian apologists, he doesn't just have weak arguments, he really has none."

Whether he's mentally ill or not, there is no possibility of having any sort of rational discussion with him. Anyone who includes disagreeing with him as something that marks you as irrational is simply not capable of having rational discussions.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 09, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 09, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
From Sam Harris's MMA instructor and someone I've trained with numerous times, Matt Thornton.

"I came to three conclusions about PZ sometime ago. The first and last are in my opinion, self evident. The second is conjecture.

1) He's a dick.

2) Based on things he's said and written I think he may be mentally ill.

3) His thinking in the last few years seems to run about as deep as that of the Christian apologists, he doesn't just have weak arguments, he really has none."

Sam Harris's MMA instructor. Well that's certainly... someone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 09, 2013, 03:42:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 09, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
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The title says it all.  Our protectors ladies and gentleman.  Our protectors.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 09, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 09, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
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The title says it all.  Our protectors ladies and gentleman.  Our protectors.

Is he still a statist or has he recovered?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 10, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on August 09, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
Sam Harris's MMA instructor. Well that's certainly... someone.

In the MMA community, before meeting Sam Harris, he was known for bringing skepticism to martial arts. Of course most people have no idea who he is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2013, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on August 09, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Is he still a statist or has he recovered?
He's still statist as far as I know.  Sadly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 10, 2013, 10:28:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
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Damn, This bloke's on a roll.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 13, 2013, 06:09:18 PM
http://libertywithoutapologies.com/punching-holes-in-the-public-goods-argument/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Inspired by this post:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg19220#msg19220
here's the ep of Dilbert I was talking about:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 13, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 13, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Inspired by this thread:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg19220#msg19220
here's the ep of Dilbert I was talking about:

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That video wouldn't play for me, but this one did: http://www.crackle.com/c/dilbert/ethics/2415616
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2013, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 13, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
That video wouldn't play for me, but this one did: http://www.crackle.com/c/dilbert/ethics/2415616
In my defense, I really wasn't able to test it (literally the page much less the video wouldn't load) because my connection has been even slower than normal lately. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 14, 2013, 07:40:22 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 13, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Inspired by this post:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg19220#msg19220
here's the ep of Dilbert I was talking about:

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Isn't it amazing just how insightful Dilbert is?

Even better than Doonesbury, and many papers run that in the editorial section.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 14, 2013, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 14, 2013, 07:40:22 AM
Even better than Doonesbury, and many papers run that in the editorial section.

They do that because a lot of butthurt conservatives complained that it was in the comic section where their kids could read it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 14, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
A nice pot shot at campaign ads from Grand Theft Auto V.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 14, 2013, 12:25:17 PM
Quote from: D on August 14, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
A nice pot shot at campaign ads from Grand Theft Auto V.

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That was fucking win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 14, 2013, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 14, 2013, 07:40:22 AM
Isn't it amazing just how insightful Dilbert is?

Even better than Doonesbury, and many papers run that in the editorial section.

I'm partial to Mimi and Eunice myself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 15, 2013, 07:47:00 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 14, 2013, 10:41:12 AM
They do that because a lot of butthurt conservatives complained that it was in the comic section where their kids could read it.

The somehow seems an unlikely reason for the local paper in London, Ontario to be doing it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 15, 2013, 08:17:20 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 15, 2013, 07:47:00 AM
The somehow seems an unlikely reason for the local paper in London, Ontario to be doing it.

It was probably the syndicate that made the decision.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 15, 2013, 01:59:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 15, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 16, 2013, 06:10:10 AM
Feel free to use anywhere you can post pictures.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 16, 2013, 06:55:02 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 16, 2013, 08:38:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 16, 2013, 07:46:40 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 16, 2013, 11:44:30 PM
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The rest of them too.  Especially the parts regarding Timon and Pumba.  Never understood what people saw in them...
Okay with the exception of the bit of calling Beauty and the Beast good.  Well, it was, but then the line he makes about it when the screen flashes with the title is kinda effed up when you've read this win by cracked.com on it:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19285_5-romantic-movie-gestures-that-were-actually-dick-moves.html pointing out that Belle kinda had Stockholm Syndrome from that...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 16, 2013, 11:48:50 PM
Here's a quote Shane will probably appreciate.

First the fail from a youtube user named Starmachine1

"Julie, why dont you care about Adam kokesh? you speak out about ALOT of things BUT when one of the people in the movement gets kidnapped by 20 swat team members and held withOUT bail for making a youtube video......you silence is compliance.

i guess who care right? your NOT in a cage!"

Then the winning response from Julie Borowski

"Hey, maybe, saying this would be more effective: "Hey Julie. I would really appreciate it if you would take at least 8 hours (the average length it takes you to make one video) in your spare time outside of your busy work and family life to create a video on the Adam Kokesh situation. Thank you." Plus, you are more than welcome to make your own YouTube video too. :)"

I get requests when you want to see someone's personal take, but when it turns into a demand based on a sense of entitlement I tend to get irritated and I don't make videos.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 16, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on August 16, 2013, 11:48:50 PM
Here's a quote Shane will probably appreciate.

First the fail from a youtube user named Starmachine1

"Julie, why dont you care about Adam kokesh? you speak out about ALOT of things BUT when one of the people in the movement gets kidnapped by 20 swat team members and held withOUT bail for making a youtube video......you silence is compliance.

i guess who care right? your NOT in a cage!"

Then the winning response from Julie Borowski

"Hey, maybe, saying this would be more effective: "Hey Julie. I would really appreciate it if you would take at least 8 hours (the average length it takes you to make one video) in your spare time outside of your busy work and family life to create a video on the Adam Kokesh situation. Thank you." Plus, you are more than welcome to make your own YouTube video too. :)"

I get requests when you want to see someone's personal take, but when it turns into a demand based on a sense of entitlement I tend to get irritated and I don't make videos.
Or maybe just ask what her thoughts on the Adam Kokesh situation? Lord knows that's what I would have done.  Faster for the both of us, tbh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on August 17, 2013, 12:02:53 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 16, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
Or maybe just ask what her thoughts on the Adam Kokesh situation? Lord knows that's what I would have done.  Faster for the both of us, tbh.

I think he was looking for her to spread the word. His statement made it sound like he felt she had to devote time to this issue for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 16, 2013, 11:44:30 PM
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I'm sorry, but I've got to call this video a fail. Not only does it take him almost two minutes to start getting to his point (a sure sign of narcissism if you ask me), his first problem is that Simba is a TYPICAL KID. I guess he feels that the hero character should be absolutely good and perfect all the time, even when very immature. Let's just ignore the fact that most of the movie is largely about Simba growing up, mentally as well as physically. And he says this is the BIGGEST problem with the film!

And for doing what every single kid ever has done, this twit says that Mufasa should beat him and send him back to sleep! I sincerely hope he never has children!

"But *I* was never like that!" Oh, really? You don't think your mother could tell us stories if we asked her? Yeah, narcissist.

QuoteEspecially the parts regarding Timon and Pumba.  Never understood what people saw in them...

It makes perfect sense when you realize they're supposed to be Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 17, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
I'm sorry, but I've got to call this video a fail. Not only does it take him almost two minutes to start getting to his point (a sure sign of narcissism if you ask me),
Is it something you've seen lots of moonhoaxers/creationists/state cultists/anti-vaxxers do?  I ask because I don't see it.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AMhis first problem is that Simba is a TYPICAL KID.  I guess he feels that the hero character should be absolutely good and perfect all the time, even when very immature. Let's just ignore the fact that most of the movie is largely about Simba growing up, mentally as well as physically. And he says this is the BIGGEST problem with the film!
But then, as he goes on later in the review, it gets to the point that adult Simba seems completely detached from kid Simba.  The asshole (kid) vs the cucumber (adult) as he puts it in part 3 I think it was?  And of course the bit about how Simba the kid is told by Scar that it's his fault for his dad's death.  Presumably because he was on the rock for his dad to rescue...even though Scar was the one who put him there and, even after Simba offered to get his dad, and the bird (can't remember his name) wanted to go get help was smacked for it, Simba still thinks he's to blame for it.  Though I disagree with Matt's bit of "even a grief stricken kid could have figured this out" he couldn't have figured it out when he got older?  Like, you know before facing off Scar--who told everyone Simba died in the stampede and whose presence there contradicts that story?  Rather than asking if it's true he killed the king?  Even though he said that both died in a stampede?  I suppose you could argue that their hunger/situation made logic harder, but damn.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AMAnd for doing what every single kid ever has done, this twit says that Mufasa should beat him and send him back to sleep! I sincerely hope he never has children!
Yeah, no arguments there.  I thought that was really out of line.  Especially the part where he hopes the hyenas eat him.  That was kinda psychopathic of him.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AM"But *I* was never like that!" Oh, really? You don't think your mother could tell us stories if we asked her? Yeah, narcissist.
He also claims that no one he knew was like that.  Either he grew up alone with only his parents, or he's full of shit.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 08:56:41 AMIt makes perfect sense when you realize they're supposed to be Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
This is what I get for not being more familiar with Shakespeare's Hamlet.   They always struck me as a lame 'hey look at me!' distraction from the main characters.  I suppose at the very least you *could* argue that they saved his life from when they found him (it looked like he was going to die, if not from depression then from dehydration) and provided him with two 'friends'/companions to grow up with instead of being alone.

Finally, did you see the 2nd and 3rd parts of the review? I only posted the first, but I thought anyone could just look to the sidebar for the others.  Either way, here they are:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 17, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Is it something you've seen lots of moonhoaxers/creationists/state cultists/anti-vaxxers do?  I ask because I don't see it.

Moon hoaxers are pretty bad about it. No other group stands out, although there certainly have been plenty.

QuoteBut then, as he goes on later in the review, it gets to the point that adult Simba seems completely detached from kid Simba.

Mostly because we skipped over a lot of growth and development in his adolescent years.

QuoteAnd of course the bit about how Simba the kid is told by Scar that it's his fault for his dad's death.  Presumably because he was on the rock for his dad to rescue...even though Scar was the one who put him there and, even after Simba offered to get his dad, and the bird (can't remember his name) wanted to go get help was smacked for it, Simba still thinks he's to blame for it.

Children can be very easily manipulated that way. Just look at any custody battle where at least one parent is being just as much of an asshole as Scar.

QuoteThough I disagree with Matt's bit of "even a grief stricken kid could have figured this out" he couldn't have figured it out when he got older?

It's a form of ABUSE! You can't put that on him!

QuoteFinally, did you see the 2nd and 3rd parts of the review? I only posted the first, but I thought anyone could just look to the sidebar for the others.

Saw the first bit of part 2 then gave up on the whole thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 17, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
Moon hoaxers are pretty bad about it. No other group stands out, although there certainly have been plenty.
Yeah, I figured as much.  Hence why I listed them first.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PMMostly because we skipped over a lot of growth and development in his adolescent years.
That's true. I guess it would have been nice to see some of that growth, but then, time constraints on movies, etc.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PMChildren can be very easily manipulated that way. Just look at any custody battle where at least one parent is being just as much of an asshole as Scar.
Good point.

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PMIt's a form of ABUSE! You can't put that on him!
The not figuring out part you mean or the stampede part?

Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:23:34 PMSaw the first bit of part 2 then gave up on the whole thing.
Ah.  Fair enough.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 17, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
The not figuring out part you mean or the stampede part?

Both. Often it takes years of therapy for the victim to stop blaming himself. If anything, Simba turned around a little TOO fast after Scar confessed to him!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 17, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
Both. Often it takes years of therapy for the victim to stop blaming himself. If anything, Simba turned around a little TOO fast after Scar confessed to him!
Makes sense.  So I guess The Lion King was a good movie after all. Nice.  And here I just thought it was because it had cats. :P

And speaking of Disney movies:

http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/art/Sheriff-Of-Nottingham-Explains-Taxes-393975193

Well done, Blamethe1st!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 17, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
The impression I always got from the stampede was that Simba was led to believe that his attempt at roaring was what got the herd stirred up.  After all, it was Scar who suggested her work on it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 17, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 17, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
The impression I always got from the stampede was that Simba was led to believe that his attempt at roaring was what got the herd stirred up.  After all, it was Scar who suggested her work on it.
Good point. I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 17, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
Wait what happened with Kokesh? Can somebody link me?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 11:51:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 18, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 17, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
The impression I always got from the stampede was that Simba was led to believe that his attempt at roaring was what got the herd stirred up.  After all, it was Scar who suggested her work on it.

Actually, Simba's roaring did start the stampede, which is what Skar was hoping for. Said stampede distracted the rest of the pride long enough for Skar and Mufasta to have a ten minute conversation, which ended with Skar killing Mufasta.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2013, 12:46:52 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 17, 2013, 11:51:34 PM
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That's a fail.  On the right it also should have had "you own a gun" too. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2013, 12:50:16 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 17, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
Makes sense.  So I guess The Lion King was a good movie after all. Nice.  And here I just thought it was because it had cats. :P

And speaking of Disney movies:

http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/art/Sheriff-Of-Nottingham-Explains-Taxes-393975193

Well done, Blamethe1st!

Another win courtesy of BlameThe1st:  http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/18-Facts-That-Prove-Guns-Make-Us-Safer-393484112
And of course, Hawkeye's response/comment on it:  "The thing is, none of this even matters because the anti gun people are not actually anti gun.  They're actually very pro gun because they're all for the state having all the guns and nukes they want.  They just want guns to be the exclusive property of the political elite."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 18, 2013, 12:54:46 AM
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around 6:40

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 18, 2013, 08:27:53 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on August 18, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
Actually, Simba's roaring did start the stampede,

No, the hyenas started the stampede on Scar's orders.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 18, 2013, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 18, 2013, 12:46:52 AM
That's a fail.  On the right it also should have had "you own a gun" too. :P

No, it's a fav because it's so obviously tongue-in-cheek. (Doesn't the gratuitous use of "y" make it obvious?)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 18, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: tnu on August 18, 2013, 12:54:46 AM
[yt]N6Imxtn0DGU[/yt]

around 6:40
And what is it? WHAT IS IT? NO! NOT THE BEES! Oh my god! oh my GOD! NOT THE BEES!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 18, 2013, 02:17:49 PM
Okay, Mr. Deity's pretty much always a fav, but give it up for this backhanded commentary with the latest Atheism+ fauxtroversy:

[yt]kMZ86PGVOQk?start=356[/yt]

Start it at 5:56.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 18, 2013, 02:35:53 PM
Guess whos back and killing in Dashing CN with the August 12th Raw in 5 mins

[yt]_F1w4PXZ3JI[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 18, 2013, 08:29:18 AM
No, it's a fav because it's so obviously tongue-in-cheek. (Doesn't the gratuitous use of "y" make it obvious?)
Well, duh. I know it was tongue in cheek (hence the :P).  Hence my entire tongue in cheek post that you just took seriously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
So at the risk of pulling another The Lion King Review from Confused Mathew:

[yt]BHP13DFm2D8[/yt]

[yt]gxvq13Z0ODY[/yt]

[yt]RdQRoDiX3eU[/yt]

[yt]zcSTe0iH1Io[/yt]

[yt]iMjlw-ii6Sg[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on August 18, 2013, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 18, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
So at the risk of pulling another The Lion King Review from Confused Mathew:

[yt]BHP13DFm2D8[/yt]

[yt]gxvq13Z0ODY[/yt]

[yt]RdQRoDiX3eU[/yt]

[yt]zcSTe0iH1Io[/yt]

[yt]iMjlw-ii6Sg[/yt]

Larry Curly & Moe LMAO
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2013, 11:38:38 PM
[yt]ktvHvW-GrvY[/yt]
Thanks to D for sharing.  Since it's relevant to what Libertarian Girl had posted.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2013, 02:46:43 AM
[yt]yqmk8Qqrw_4&list=PLFLvOvgDs65_N6K8nrJSs6UpzQQ3g1HXl[/yt]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqmk8Qqrw_4&list=PLFLvOvgDs65_N6K8nrJSs6UpzQQ3g1HXl
This video and the entire playlist that I linked to. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 20, 2013, 12:44:38 AM
[yt]GgfsgiPMqRc[/yt]

A very good video from the young turks
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 20, 2013, 01:13:58 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-we-need-classes-how-to-talk-to-people/
Outstanding article. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 20, 2013, 02:22:40 AM
[spoiler](http://www.macromeme.com/cat/why-not-to-buy-mac.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2013, 08:05:19 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 20, 2013, 02:22:40 AM
[spoiler](http://www.macromeme.com/cat/why-not-to-buy-mac.png)[/spoiler]

I hit a major WTF when I got to the ADD-IN RAID card.  Excuse me? ADD-IN RAID card?  Who the hell does a premium motherboard WITHOUT on-board RAID support these days?  In fact, just for fun, I checked on Tiger Direct, and ALL their sub-$100 motherboards have on-board RAID support (all do RAID 0 and 1, and one actually does RAID 5).  At this point, a manufacturer would probably have to pay extra to get MBs that don't have RAID support built in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on August 20, 2013, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 20, 2013, 08:05:19 AM
I hit a major WTF when I got to the ADD-IN RAID card.  Excuse me? ADD-IN RAID card?  Who the hell does a premium motherboard WITHOUT on-board RAID support these days?  In fact, just for fun, I checked on Tiger Direct, and ALL their sub-$100 motherboards have on-board RAID support (all do RAID 0 and 1, and one actually does RAID 5).  At this point, a manufacturer would probably have to pay extra to get MBs that don't have RAID support built in.

The somewhat funny part is that Mac OS X supports software RAID.  This means that you don't even need the RAID hardware to do the RAID.  Given that modern computer hardware has virtually eliminated the downsides of software RAID and it has so many positives, most people who only use RAID 0 or 1 would be better of saving the money and doing it with the free software.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 20, 2013, 04:33:09 PM
[yt]K6eESTwC9OQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 21, 2013, 12:24:41 PM
Glenn Danzig was recently interviewed by City Pages (http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2013/08/glenn_danzig_interview.php) and had the following win to say about Democrats:
QuoteMy view on Democrats is that they're fascists disguised as liberals, or liberal moderates. You're not allowed to say anything that they don't agree with. You're not allowed to do anything. Also, the whole Obama, "I can kill anybody with a drone with no trial," is kind of disturbing. I'm surprised that more people who are supposedly liberal aren't more disturbed by it. I think whatever Obama does is OK with them, because he's Obama. It's bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 21, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 18, 2013, 12:50:16 AM
Another win courtesy of BlameThe1st:  http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/18-Facts-That-Prove-Guns-Make-Us-Safer-393484112
And of course, Hawkeye's response/comment on it:  "The thing is, none of this even matters because the anti gun people are not actually anti gun.  They're actually very pro gun because they're all for the state having all the guns and nukes they want.  They just want guns to be the exclusive property of the political elite."

To be fair, that list was by Michael Snyder from The American Dream: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/18-little-known-gun-facts-that-prove-that-guns-make-us-safer
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2013, 03:14:52 AM
(http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/30000/0000/600/30651/30651.strip.sunday.gif)
Yet another win by Scott Adams.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
"'Libertarian populism" is sound evidence that Republicans are idiots." —George Phillies
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 22, 2013, 09:18:41 PM
[yt]1fTt4K4Cae4[/yt]

Once again AlphaOmegaSin hits it out of the park

and also Pres. Obama administration lying about something what a shocker 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 22, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
The fail is TheResident. The win (surprisingly enough) is rdubwiley:

[yt]6fMKakbNivU[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 23, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
"'Libertarian populism" is sound evidence that Republicans are idiots." —George Phillies

Context? Is he saying popular libertarianism is a sensible reaction to conservative imbecility, OR Libertarians are slightly more idiotic than normal Republicans?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on August 23, 2013, 10:38:23 AM
"What is called "planning" in political rhetoric is the government's suppression of other people's plan by superimposing on them a collective plan, created by third parties, armed with the power of government and exempted form paying the costs that these collective plans impose on others." -Thomas Sowell Economic Facts and Fallacies.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 23, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on August 23, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
Context? Is he saying popular libertarianism is a sensible reaction to conservative imbecility, OR Libertarians are slightly more idiotic than normal Republicans?

It's from an article in his newsletter about how Republicans are using "libertarian populism" to try and attract libertarians to the RP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 23, 2013, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 23, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
It's from an article in his newsletter about how Republicans are using "libertarian populism" to try and attract libertarians to the RP.

If they wanted to attract libertarians shouldn't they have given Ron Paul the nomination when they had the chance?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 23, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: tnu on August 23, 2013, 12:49:56 PM
If they wanted to attract libertarians shouldn't they have given Ron Paul the nomination when they had the chance?

They don't want to attract libertarians to strengthen the party and libertarian values. They want to attract libertarians to get us out of the way, and where they can control us.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 24, 2013, 06:24:32 AM
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/0/9/202909.jpg?v=1)

But you know, we need govco to keep us safe from the evil free marketeers who will poison us...

Source: http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_645_19-historical-details-that-prove-were-lucky-to-be-alive-now/?view=article (quite a few of which are win and awesome).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 24, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I had the idea of putting an economic twist on a viral cartoon and just couldn't resist:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1233098_661380877205677_391808208_o.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 24, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 24, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I had the idea of putting an economic twist on a viral cartoon and just couldn't resist:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1233098_661380877205677_391808208_o.png)
It always struck me as a bit odd for statists to whine about the US spending a lot on healthcare compared to them.  You know who spends even less than that?  Third world countries where there IS no healthcare!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on August 25, 2013, 02:54:27 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 24, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I had the idea of putting an economic twist on a viral cartoon and just couldn't resist:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1233098_661380877205677_391808208_o.png)

Wait, are these guys stereotype cavemen or stereotype hippies?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 25, 2013, 04:36:39 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/188/056/76iz.jpg)

I had to post this.  It's referring to that Aliens Guy on the History Channel.  You know who I mean.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 25, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 25, 2013, 04:36:39 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/188/056/76iz.jpg)

I had to post this.  It's referring to that Aliens Guy on the History Channel.  You know who I mean.

Geogio Tsoukales?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 25, 2013, 05:03:15 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 25, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
Geogio Tsoukales?
Yup.  The guy with the weird looking hair.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 26, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
Everyone knows the ancient aliens theory is bunk. It was put forth by the reptilians to distract us.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 26, 2013, 08:20:59 AM
Quote from: tnu on August 26, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
Everyone knows the ancient aliens theory is bunk. It was put forth by the reptilians to distract us.

That's just what the Illuminati WANTS you to think!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 26, 2013, 09:41:29 AM
[yt]ui8dEGymsBA[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 26, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 26, 2013, 08:20:59 AM
That's just what the Illuminati WANTS you to think!

That's silly! The Illuminati  is just a front foer the Jewish conspiracy!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 26, 2013, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: tnu on August 26, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
That's silly! The Illuminati  is just a front foer the Jewish conspiracy!

SHHH! Yes, but I didn't want THEM to know that!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 26, 2013, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 26, 2013, 03:53:27 PM
SHHH! Yes, but I didn't want THEM to know that!

Of course not, since the Jews are all working for the masons!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 27, 2013, 01:44:14 AM
[yt]vIJtBZyYcdY[/yt]

Good Old JR speaking some truth
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 27, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
OK so we've got this guy "eli rope" one of those "everything is subjective/there is no objective truth/morality" loons. now his stuff belongs in Fail Quotes but it reminded me of this sketch.

[yt]aq4UGiVEF80[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 27, 2013, 05:26:43 PM
Yup, that about sums it up!

(http://i.imgur.com/oXBo9Ul.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on August 27, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on August 27, 2013, 05:26:43 PM
Yup, that about sums it up!

(http://i.imgur.com/oXBo9Ul.png)

Where is the tumble weed?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 27, 2013, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on August 27, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
Where is the tumble weed?  :P

With the Nostalgia Critic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dVj3eLOu-M
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 27, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
[yt]P0ukYf_xvgc[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 28, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
[yt]60wRApzBPtA[/yt]

"There's a reason why it's called political correctness: because politics is bullshit!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 29, 2013, 12:19:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dDOfyQQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on August 29, 2013, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on August 29, 2013, 12:19:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dDOfyQQ.jpg)
Ha
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 30, 2013, 03:07:29 AM
From the comments of this video (not a win):

[yt]KEvwzbjTJfU[/yt]

"Modern feminism is about pushing misandristic propaganda, not equal rights." -- bryosgirl
The only flaw with this being the word "Modern" as far as I can tell, it was ALWAYS like that.  Though I could be wrong.

"No true Scotsman fallacy.

All the big time feminists out there are pushing the misandry, the victim complex, the self entitlement and all the rest of the package. If that's really not true feminism, where's all the "real" feminists shouting these idiots down?" -- Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 30, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 30, 2013, 03:07:29 AM
From the comments of this video (not a win):

[yt]KEvwzbjTJfU[/yt]

"Modern feminism is about pushing misandristic propaganda, not equal rights." -- bryosgirl
The only flaw with this being the word "Modern" as far as I can tell, it was ALWAYS like that.  Though I could be wrong.

"No true Scotsman fallacy.

All the big time feminists out there are pushing the misandry, the victim complex, the self entitlement and all the rest of the package. If that's really not true feminism, where's all the "real" feminists shouting these idiots down?" -- Lord T Hawkeye

It's not really clear whether you're saying the video is not a win, or the comments on the video are not a win. Some of each seem to have valid points, although some of what the video portrayed is illegible.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 30, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on August 30, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
It's not really clear whether you're saying the video is not a win, or the comments on the video are not a win. Some of each seem to have valid points, although some of what the video portrayed is illegible.
How is it unclear?  I put my thoughts near all of them.  Except Hawkeye's, as it was rather blatantly win. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 30, 2013, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 30, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
How is it unclear?  I put my thoughts near all of them.  Except Hawkeye's, as it was rather blatantly win. :P

I think he was talking about your sentence, "From the comments of this video (not a win)." Does the "not a win" part refer to the comments or to the video?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 30, 2013, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 30, 2013, 02:53:50 PM
I think he was talking about your sentence, "From the comments of this video (not a win)." Does the "not a win" part refer to the comments or to the video?

Yes, that was what I was referring to.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 30, 2013, 03:22:39 PM
Referring to the video.  I've always done it that way and no one else ever had any issues with it.  I learned in English that the closer the pro-noun (or whatever you call what I put near it :P) is, would be the one it goes with as a rule of thumb.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 30, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on August 30, 2013, 03:22:39 PM
Referring to the video.  I've always done it that way and no one else ever had any issues with it.  I learned in English that the closer the pro-noun (or whatever you call what I put near it :P) is, would be the one it goes with as a rule of thumb.

In this case, I'd call it a qualifying clause. In any case, thanks for clearing that up. In this case, the meaning of the sentence is different if "the comments on this video" is taken as the subject, or "this video" is taken as the subject.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on August 30, 2013, 08:47:25 PM
[yt]Xi8eLSyb7RM[/yt]
  8)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on August 31, 2013, 07:20:49 PM
[yt]gaE-WLe8DU8[/yt]

Would this go in here? I'm not sure whether I agree completely or not.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 01, 2013, 01:52:01 PM
[yt]ScinG3p8KUQ[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on September 01, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
[yt]Ldo2sZWs388[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 01, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
(https://sphotos-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1234857_576991099003428_1618525229_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 03, 2013, 06:51:48 AM
[yt]18I5kThEF7o[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 03, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
[yt]Mdkt2qemNcQ[/yt]

seriuosly, Myles Power never ceases to gain my respect. he's worth every minute I spend watching his videos.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 04, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
[yt]Va-BvJZLvg8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 04, 2013, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on September 01, 2013, 01:52:01 PM
[yt]ScinG3p8KUQ[/yt]
Does youtube even check the videos that get flagged?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 05, 2013, 09:19:46 AM
More plain truth from Brian Dunning:

[yt]CV5zof2jU-E[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 05, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 05, 2013, 09:19:46 AM
More plain truth from Brian Dunning:

[yt]CV5zof2jU-E[/yt]

I approve.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 05, 2013, 10:57:07 PM
"Despots and democratic majorities are drunk with power. They must reluctantly admit that they are subject to the laws of nature. But they reject the very notion of economic law . . . economic history is a long record of government policies that failed because they were designed with a bold disregard for the laws of economics."

— Ludwig von Mises, in Austrian Economics: An Anthology
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 06, 2013, 11:59:21 AM
"Patriotism? You mean Nationalism-lite?" -- Me, inspired by Overly Manly Man
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 06, 2013, 02:38:35 PM
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/0/4/173904.jpg?v=1)
I can definitely agree and attest to this.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/0/1/173901.jpg?v=1)
Here's hoping they get their shit together for 9.0 or at least 8.1

Le Source:  http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_559_if-you-could-tell-companies-one-thing-about-their-products_p2/?view=article
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 06, 2013, 04:29:36 PM
(https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s720x720/1237018_10151835643861489_388957183_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 07, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
Very few anti-war songs of the time captured the melancholy of war as well as "March to the Witch's Castle" by Funkadelic both in lyrics and musicianship.

[yt]qOFJozMKNAw[/yt]

"Someone said this war ended with 'peace with honor'
But can there truly be? Is there such a thing?
Thousands of boys gave their life, and for what?
Does anybody know?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on September 08, 2013, 01:25:56 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/05/10-things-that-could-go-very-wrong-if-we-attack-syria/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 08, 2013, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: D on September 07, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
Very few anti-war songs of the time captured the melancholy of war as well as "March to the Witch's Castle" by Funkadelic both in lyrics and musicianship.

[yt]qOFJozMKNAw[/yt]

"Someone said this war ended with 'peace with honor'
But can there truly be? Is there such a thing?
Thousands of boys gave their life, and for what?
Does anybody know?"


I always liked "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" for that reason.

I see the old men, so bent, stiff, and sore
The forgotten heroes of a forgotten war
And the young people ask me, "What are they marching for?"
And I ask myself the same question.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 08, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
Ludwig von Mises: "Monetary calculation and cost accounting constitute the most important intellectual tool of the capitalist entrepreneur, and it was no one less than Goethe who pronounced the system of double-entry bookkeeping one of the finest inventions of the human mind." - Liberalism
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 08, 2013, 10:29:37 AM
But yeah, watching idiots like Luke McKinnley on Cracked or my professors talk about economics reminds me of this article by Murray N. Rothbard: https://mises.org/daily/2197
Especially this epic win quote: "It is no accident that it was precisely the economists in the Communist countries who led the rush away from communism, socialism, and central planning, and toward free markets. It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a "dismal science." But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance." (something my power systems prof would do well to remember)

Another epic win quote (the one I was also thinking about) from this article: https://mises.org/daily/1132
"Economics requires study and systematic thinking about the implications of action, choice, and ownership in a world of scarcity. It is a science that delineates the limits of how far the human mind can wander when thinking about what society can and should be. This is one reason that intellectuals, even great ones, take such pains to avoid studying economics, and instead latch on to fantasies like socialism and syndicalism."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 08, 2013, 10:33:54 AM
And while I'm at it, I'll post some amazing ones from that Statist Fallacies Voluntaryist Wiki:

(http://humoresyamores.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/libertarians-selfish2.jpg)
(Classic!)

http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/SoldiersProtectYourFreedom Probably the best article on this wiki!

QuoteFallacy:

"You should be thankful for the military. They protect your freedom."

Response:

    An expropriating property protector is a contradiction in terms. —Dbudlov Johnson

Soldiers lay their lives on the line? So what? So do Mafia hit men, but I don't see ticker-tape parades thrown in their honor.

The facts are these: the government steals and extorts tax money from the productive (any government does this) to fund their military, so they can commit mass murder. They run the schools, so they can brainwash people into believing that their soldiers are fighting for their "freedom."

Name one freedom the US military has given us since the start of the Iraq war. One that we've gained. I can think of several we have lost since then, so don't try to bullshit me. US government soldiers do not fight for my freedom—they fight for their paychecks and their bosses. Period. (DV)

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What I have learned from you people [war apologists and troop worshipers] is:

1) Shut up and sit down. There is no room for dissent.

2) Be happy about having your money taken from you by force to fund immoral wars.

3) Be grateful that people were paid by that stolen money to commit atrocities overseas including murder of innocent women and children, the flattening of cities, massive pollution, wanton destruction, rape, torture, etc.

4) Learn to love violence and destruction, and apologize for those people doing it.

Oh and:

5) If you don't like it, leave

OR

6) We will kill you if you disagree with us.

https://www.facebook.com/toolsofwar/posts/10151008574801995

(DV)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 08, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
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Enjoy. ;)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 09, 2013, 02:26:22 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 09, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/the-half-truth.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 10, 2013, 09:02:48 AM
Okay, all of Matt Cutts's videos answering questions about Google's site policies are win, but this one particularly so because he's wearing a Firefox shirt:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2013, 01:34:34 PM
Okay, going by/continuation of my post from David Wong's article in fail quotes a minute or two ago:

Morrakiu said it best--"9/11 might as well be Pearl Harbor at this point."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 11, 2013, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 11, 2013, 01:34:34 PM
Morrakiu said it best--"9/11 might as well be Pearl Harbor at this point."

Leaving aside the conspiracy theories for the moment, the 9/11 date has kinda risen somewhat to that level in the American consciousness. We note it's passing every year. (I was going to list a bunch of stuff we do every year, but I guess all of it's covered in that statement.) Come to think of it, Dec. 7th goes by without a word now (except on the History Channel). [And it had been for a decade or two before 9/11- No, make it a decade, it was still a big thing in history class in the 80's.]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 12, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 11, 2013, 01:34:34 PM
Okay, going by/continuation of my post from David Wong's article in fail quotes a minute or two ago:

Morrakiu said it best--"9/11 might as well be Pearl Harbor at this point."

And like it, equally filled with propaganda and the stupid....everything from the motivation to the events have been misrepresented--both by the official sources and by the conspiritards.

Observe how officially, the Government glossed over the reason why Japan attacked, or that 9/11 was fundamentally related to US actions in the Arab and Muslim world...Or how conspiritards ignore the evidence of the video footage, or come up with guff about Mossad or the US government being behind 9/11.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 12, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
I think I know why Obamatons still cling to Obama.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 13, 2013, 09:35:46 AM
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I'd have an easier time taking Hawkeye's claims of "Well Pat Condell said he's only talking about the extreme Muslims" seriously if it weren't for the fact that Pat also joined the UK Independence Party (IIRC) which apparently is rather nationalist and anti-immigration and uses the excuse of "means to an end!"
You know what they say about actions speaking louder than words...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 14, 2013, 06:45:39 PM
This is what happens when my pathfinder ranger crits with his scythe

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 15, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
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My right ear really enjoyed this video. Also, the original video that he's talking about would go in Fail quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 15, 2013, 10:44:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 16, 2013, 02:06:02 AM
QuoteTwo and two make banana unicorns

I love it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 16, 2013, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: D on September 15, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
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My right ear really enjoyed this video. Also, the original video that he's talking about would go in Fail quotes.

Fail for the autofocus as well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 18, 2013, 02:00:17 PM
APPLAUSE!!!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 18, 2013, 11:11:59 PM
(http://fumaga.com/i/Furries-vs-Trolls-nerds.jpg)
^QFT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 19, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tesla.png)
All of my yes! :D

edit: derp
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 19, 2013, 05:56:17 PM
1. shit O.O
2. lllllove love love horrer movies~

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2013, 01:43:58 AM
about time I see this!

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I found this one speech lately by an Imam, which I figured I'd share part of: it is done with a clear Islamic (specifically sunni sect) Slant, So some of the particulars you guys may not agree with, but hey, calling out rulers openly in Saudi Arabia is an act of bravery in the Arab world. And he's equal opportunity: Sunni, Shi'ite, non Muslim governments, all are targets of his (just) abuse:

starting @ 6:47 (it ends two or three minutes later. the whole speech is critical of the government, but I selected the parts that I feel would strongly resonate here):

[spoiler]
Quote" The ruler who is unjust to his people--the unjust ruler who treats his people as if they were a collection of ewes or a herd of sheep--is overjoyed if he sees a hundred or two hundred people--men and women--forming a line to receive their daily bread! he is overjoyed with this! divert them with their food, their drink, the slightest morsel for their life, while you sit in luxury, in your wantonness and blessings and luxuriousness! that is one of the reasons countries fall! One of the greatest reasons rulers fall--those who transgress against their people in their lives and make things difficult for them.

The Prophet peace be upon him, once presided over a prayer of his companions,  and it was his habit to sit amongst his friends Afterwards. All of a sudden he rises up and leaves in haste, then he returned to them, having gone to his home and returned, his companions asked: "what sent you hurrying oh messenger of God?" so the Prophet PBUH said: "I remembered a speck of Gold we had at home." A piece of Gold!  "to give to charity: I remembered it, so I grew fearful that your company would divert me." yes--he rose, went to his home, had it given in charity, and returned to his companions. a speck of Gold in his house. No god but God! then what would the Prophet Peace be Upon him say, If he saw the vaults of ibn Ali, filled with Gold; Hundreds of Kilograms of Gold? what would he have said? what would he have said if he had entered on Qaddafi's house, and saw the guilded bed of his? what would he have said, if he knew of Hosni Mubarak's wealth? of of other rulers, like Ali Saleh and other such?! What would he say PBUH? knowing that for a speck of Gold he'd rush to give to charity? All those "rulers"--all of them who are now in the dust bin of history--look at all the money they collected. "I remembered a speck of Gold."!

By God if the Prophet had seen something like this, and seen the Muslim World today, he would have seen something great. "This is his community? These are its rulers?"
[/spoiler]

he goes on to compare the countries of today to The 3 stage model of state development by Ibn Khaldun (which resembles Stefan Molyneux's model of governments and states grow), and says they are in the third stage, where waste and corruption take hold.

yes, he was arrested. No, he hasn't stopped talking in such a manner about Governments in the Arab world.

EDIT: was going to add something, but for some reason the video disappeared.I have replaced it: same video, same url, so same top comments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on September 20, 2013, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2013, 01:43:58 AM
About time I see this!

[yt]IQu8ShbLMWY[/yt]

I know it's in Arabic, and it is done with a clear Islamic (specifically sunni sect, Hanbali jurisprudence) Slant, So some of the particulars you guys may not agree with, but hey, calling out rulers openly in Saudi Arabia is an act of bravery in the Arab world. And he's equal opportunity: Sunni, Shi'ite, non Muslim, all are targets of his (just) abuse:

starting @ 6:47 (it ends two or three minutes later. the whole speech is critical of the government, but I selected the parts that I feel would strongly resonate here):

[spoiler][/spoiler]

he goes on to compare the countries of today to The 3 stage model of state development by Ibn Khaldun (which resembles Stefan Molyneux's model of governments and states grow), and says they are in the third stage, where waste and corruption take hold.

yes, he was arrested. No, he hasn't stopped talking in such a manner about Governments in the Arab world.

Can you translate the two top rated comments, because 1. most of us can't read arabic and 2. google translator suck balls. I would appreciate it greatly. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2013, 02:32:41 AM
sure:

Quote from: by abdul namiBy God my admiration for you has grown, after I had once not loved you. I was unjust in suspecting you regarding your dedication and loyalty to God's faith, but by God I was lowly* in doing so Oh Lion of the pulpits, and God grant you good...Now by God I fear you'll seek justice from me on judgement day for my injustice to you.


*can also mean "degraded"

Quote from: kamal abdoa Lion by God, a Lion, God grant you long life and Lord protect you oh sheikh
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on September 20, 2013, 03:51:26 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2013, 02:32:41 AM
sure:


*can also mean "degraded"

Thank U  :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2013, 09:57:40 AM
In the comment section of this win video:

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There was a bit of an exchange.  One part fail, one part epic win.  Win in blue, fail in red as per usual:

Timothy McGuire:  "So would you throw out the laws then? Some people are really selfish or sociopaths or greedy. How would you deal with someone who is homicidal without a government. The pot laws are ridiculous but the ones against murder not so much. "

Ganga Din:  "You mean like the ones in Chicago where half the murders go unresolved? Or Detroit where police take on average 58 minutes to respond to a 911 call if someone is about to kill you? Or like Washington state where police tell the victim to politely ask the attacker to leave if he manages to break her door in to assault her, rape her and kill her, because the dispatch have noone to send to aid her? Yeah. No worries though, the dispatch got her name and address written down. So it is all good."

And of course, Shane's response to le fail was sweet too:

Shane: "'Some people are really selfish or sociopaths or greedy.'
Yes, and they usually end up in government.
'How would you deal with someone who is homicidal without a government.'
Not let them in government where they can be homicidal in other countries like Obama's trying to be, for a start.
Also, you're acting as if people are helpless and can't protect themselves. It works when our money is taken by gunpoint, but not when paid voluntarily to private police. Cult of the Omnipotent State."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2013, 10:13:57 AM
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Love it when Thunderf00t is on his game. :)

I post this because it reminds me of a fail article from Cracked's David Wong (I will post it in fail quotes) about this same topic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
"So killing children is ok because they go to heaven? They don't see it that way with abortion." --NetHead87, the top rated comment on this video:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on September 20, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 19, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tesla.png)
All of my yes! :D

edit: derp

In my experience, people who would wear a Tesla shirt (and the people on the internet that worship him), are just as clueless as the Che folk. At least Tesla was not a tyrannical scumbag, but that's besides the point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 20, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: VectorM on September 20, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
In my experience, people who would wear a Tesla shirt (and the people on the internet that worship him), are just as clueless as the Che folk. At least Tesla was not a tyrannical scumbag, but that's besides the point.

The thing to remember about Tesla is, he was a complete nutjob who could come up with 1001 crazy ideas. But he would then TEST THOSE IDEAS and find out which ones worked, and throw out the ones that didn't. Of course, that takes time, so we have a lot of leftover crazy ideas from the end of his life he never had the opportunity to test and see if they work or not. Lots of conspiracy crazies (especially the "free energy" folks) grab those and run with it.

Me, I'd totally wear a Tesla shirt!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 20, 2013, 04:33:23 PM
(https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwBVWM_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 21, 2013, 08:55:05 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 21, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on September 21, 2013, 10:23:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 23, 2013, 09:20:05 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 20, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
The thing to remember about Tesla is, he was a complete nutjob who could come up with 1001 crazy ideas. But he would then TEST THOSE IDEAS and find out which ones worked, and throw out the ones that didn't. Of course, that takes time, so we have a lot of leftover crazy ideas from the end of his life he never had the opportunity to test and see if they work or not. Lots of conspiracy crazies (especially the "free energy" folks) grab those and run with it.

Me, I'd totally wear a Tesla shirt!

It also takes MONEY to test out those ideas, and he ran out of that long before he ran out of time.

(Tesla decided to forgo his license fees from Westinghouse in order to help Westinghouse avoid bankruptcy.  He died in poverty in a hotel room in New York, NY, before the litigation on the radio patents, which could have made him rich again, was completed.  Incidentally, he won, in the end.  Not only did Tesla invent essentially all the basic technology of AC current, he also invented key parts of the basic technology of radio.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on September 23, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
Funny how this old political cartoon from the 1960s remains relevant even today:

(http://i.imgur.com/aJRhnik.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 23, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/true-courage-is-knowing-youre-wrong-but-refusing-t,33742/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on September 24, 2013, 01:52:53 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on September 23, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
Funny how this old political cartoon from the 1960s remains relevant even today:

(http://i.imgur.com/aJRhnik.jpg)

Good find. I'm going to show this to the next guy who tries to pull the "we live in a democracy and you can say damn near everythign you want" bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 24, 2013, 09:31:11 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-u.s.-cities-that-are-sadistically-screwing-with-residents/
4 more govco failures.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 24, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 24, 2013, 09:31:11 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-u.s.-cities-that-are-sadistically-screwing-with-residents/
4 more govco failures.
Only the fucking government can cut off power to its customers and blame it on them. 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 26, 2013, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on September 24, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
Only the fucking government can cut off power to its customers and blame it on them.
Indeed.  One more reason I know my prof is full of shit calling them "natural monopolies".

Speaking of stupid refuted/addressed:  http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/7-moronic-ways-hollywood-wants-to-teach-kids-about-piracy/
You know this should be something.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 26, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 26, 2013, 12:41:05 PM
Indeed.  One more reason I know my prof is full of shit calling them "natural monopolies".

Speaking of stupid refuted/addressed:  http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/7-moronic-ways-hollywood-wants-to-teach-kids-about-piracy/
You know this should be something.

There's a lot of false equivalency in that article. Number 5 does kinda have a point, but I don't see how it would relate to the issue being taught. I mean, what could you possible do with a pirated song that would be remotely like jumping a bike off...I'll call it a pool since I don't remember what it was?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 26, 2013, 06:23:28 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on September 29, 2013, 12:11:26 AM
http://www.isidewith.com/results/297455630
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 29, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18760_6-things-everyone-knows-about-women-that-arent-true.html
A good article from Cracked.com before they jumped on the feminism bandwagon.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 01, 2013, 05:41:24 AM
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_MDQXhDAkFfU/RnislLkRsKI/AAAAAAAAAPk/kTy3hR51tNM/s1600/2112.jpg)

it's just hilarious. let me translate

right side:

[spoiler]Bliss is:

-Syrian wife (saying "O my darling" (roughly))
-Lebanese food
-Emirates citizenship
-Egyptian Tourism
-Jordanian Safety
-Palestinian Neighbor (the guy in the pic says: "a ma'lube for you (it's a Palestinian dish--very delicious!)
-Saudi Taxes (i.e. no taxes)
-Qatari income[/spoiler]


[spoiler]Hell is:

-Egyptian wife (saying "yes your mother's soul!")
-Emirates food (it says: "hareese"--not the most appetizing food)
-Lebanese citizenship
-Palestinian safety (the soldier with the AK says: "where's the paycheck?!")
-Qatari tourism (i.e. No sights to enjoy)
-Saudi neighbor
-Jordanian Taxes
-Syrian income[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 01, 2013, 07:53:32 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 01, 2013, 05:41:24 AM
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_MDQXhDAkFfU/RnislLkRsKI/AAAAAAAAAPk/kTy3hR51tNM/s1600/2112.jpg)

it's just hilarious. let me translate

right side:

[spoiler]Bliss is:

-Syrian wife (saying "O my darling" (roughly))
-Lebanese food
-Emirates citizenship
-Egyptian Tourism
-Jordanian Safety
-Palestinian Neighbor (the guy in the pic says: "a ma'lube for you (it's a Palestinian dish--very delicious!)
-Saudi Taxes (i.e. no taxes)
-Qatari income[/spoiler]


[spoiler]Hell is:

-Egyptian wife (saying "yes your mother's soul!")
-Emirates food (it says: "hareese"--not the most appetizing food)
-Lebanese citizenship
-Palestinian safety (the soldier with the AK says: "where's the paycheck?!")
-Qatari tourism (i.e. No sights to enjoy)
-Saudi neighbor
-Jordanian Taxes
-Syrian income[/spoiler]

Ah yes, Egypt, the country that invented being a tourist trap...about 2000 years ago.  Egyptians seem to have done just about everything way before anyone else.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 03, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
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I just remembered this song. I used to listen to it a lot in my early and mid teens. Relistining to it now, I realize how short your life is, and how many people have the gall to tell you that you have to live it there way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 03, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 03, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 03, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
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And they say only conservatives hate science.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 03, 2013, 11:28:02 AM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s17e02-informative-murder-porn

hilarious
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 04, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 04, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_17224_5-retarded-health-campaigns-that-backfired-hilariously.html
#2 is fail."Derp. We couldn't recall the lead poisening we gave your kids because Boosh cut our budget."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 04, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
One of my musings

"Ever seen villains in stories who do evil things yet adhere to some code or principle that really fails to stack against their immoral behavior? The thief who only steals "from those who can afford it," as though that somehow absolves him of his stealing? The hired gun who won't take hits on women or children, as though that somehow makes his killing more moral?

There's plenty of real life examples of this. There was a high ranking nazi officer who was known for being a real stickler about use taxpayer money responsibly. When he found his wife using the public purse for personal use, he lectured her quite harshly and made her pay it back, as though this somehow made up for the fact that he was serving and supporting a murderous regime.

Moral of the story: The next time you call McDonalds the scum of the earth for not paying entry level workers 20$/hr while turning a blind eye to your government's involvement in war, if not outright supporting and cheering it, ask yourself this: Are you really fighting the good fight? Or are you just trying to sooth a guilty conscience?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 04, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 04, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
One of my musings

"Ever seen villains in stories who do evil things yet adhere to some code or principle that really fails to stack against their immoral behavior? The thief who only steals "from those who can afford it," as though that somehow absolves him of his stealing? The hired gun who won't take hits on women or children, as though that somehow makes his killing more moral?

There's plenty of real life examples of this. There was a high ranking nazi officer who was known for being a real stickler about use taxpayer money responsibly. When he found his wife using the public purse for personal use, he lectured her quite harshly and made her pay it back, as though this somehow made up for the fact that he was serving and supporting a murderous regime.

Moral of the story: The next time you call McDonalds the scum of the earth for not paying entry level workers 20$/hr while turning a blind eye to your government's involvement in war, if not outright supporting and cheering it, ask yourself this: Are you really fighting the good fight? Or are you just trying to sooth a guilty conscience?"
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120528211227AArBcWn
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 04, 2013, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 04, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
Moral of the story: The next time you call McDonalds the scum of the earth for not paying entry level workers 20$/hr while turning a blind eye to your government's involvement in war, if not outright supporting and cheering it, ask yourself this: Are you really fighting the good fight? Or are you just trying to sooth a guilty conscience?"

It's not like most of those SOLDIERS get paid any $20/hr either.  Low-grade enlisted (the bulk of any military) get crap pay like every other person at entry level.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 05, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Goaticus on October 06, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1379633_10201946063590657_816999554_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on October 06, 2013, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: Goaticus on October 06, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1379633_10201946063590657_816999554_n.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 06, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
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Lee is on his A-Game today.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 07, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 07, 2013, 12:17:24 AM
is it just me or does one of those guys sound kind of like Dave? Also, I'm not the only one I know who watches Game Theory!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 07, 2013, 10:48:21 AM
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/10/06/5-questions-for-a-skeptical-libertarian-drugs-climate-and-utopia/?fb_source=pubv1
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 07, 2013, 11:48:14 PM
this is a pretty awesome and funny series.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 09, 2013, 07:46:09 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-pranksters-who-have-no-clue-how-pranks-work/
Glad SOMEONE gets it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 09, 2013, 08:03:53 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 09, 2013, 07:46:09 AM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-pranksters-who-have-no-clue-how-pranks-work/
Glad SOMEONE gets it.

The last one reminds me of that Japanese kid who got himself killed by persistently attacking random people.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 09, 2013, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on October 09, 2013, 08:03:53 AM
The last one reminds me of that Japanese kid who got himself killed by persistently attacking random people.

What about the guy who died trying to do a Bigfoot prank wearing a ghillie suit? Turns out, it's a bad idea to be walking around in highway traffic wearing military camouflage...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 10, 2013, 08:51:35 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 09, 2013, 08:25:21 AM
What about the guy who died trying to do a Bigfoot prank wearing a ghillie suit? Turns out, it's a bad idea to be walking around in highway traffic wearing military camouflage...

Technically, it's law enforcement camouflage, since Ghillie invented it to catch poachers in. Military uses such as snipers came up because it's that good. (For those who've never seen one used, if done properly, you can be close enough to touch a person wearing one of these suits and have no idea they're there. At least one US military sniper training program teaches their use, and tests proficiency by having the student hide while being monitored by one instructor, who then talks a second instructor to the student over radio. If the student has prepared and used his suit properly, the second instructor will not be able to tell where the student is until he actually touches the student.)

The mistake the guy made was walking around highway traffic in the first place. Out on a highway, while moving, a Ghillie suit is pretty much worthless as camouflage. They work by making you impossible to pick out of wild or semi-wild vegetation when not moving.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 11, 2013, 10:47:30 AM
http://cheezburger.com/7844774656
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2013, 03:52:49 PM
"There once was a girl named Norma Jeane
Who was a solid 7
She then became Marilyn Monroe
Cranking it to 11"

-- A poem by me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
"I always find it funny when the older generation criticizes the younger generation as though they had nothing to do with it."--Dr Phil
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
https://mises.org/daily/5266/ ("The Myth of Natural Monopoly" by Thomas J. DiLorenzo)
:)

I can't help but doubt my professor saying that the vertically integrated regulated monopoly structure of power companies has been extremely successful.  As I even said in my notes: "Compared to WHAT, Einstein?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
i've been thinking about that question "compared to what?" I know it's common around here and I'm curious as to who the progenitor is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2013, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
i've been thinking about that question "compared to what?" I know it's common around here and I'm curious as to who the progenitor is.
I first heard it from Stefan Molyneux.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on October 12, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
Quote from: tnu on October 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
i've been thinking about that question "compared to what?" I know it's common around here and I'm curious as to who the progenitor is.

I doubt anyone could really answer that question, I know it's been around for a long time now. The first time I heard it was in 1978, in a movie, but I don't remember what the name of it was.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 12, 2013, 07:12:22 AM
Quote from: tnu on October 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
i've been thinking about that question "compared to what?" I know it's common around here and I'm curious as to who the progenitor is.

It's just one of those things skeptics learn to ask. Every measurement needs a baseline for comparison. Woos just like to throw out numbers without that comparison (see Over 9000 Fallacy in the Unnamed Logical Fallacies thread). You need to get them to put their numbers in context to see if their point stands (and usually it doesn't; otherwise they would have done so to begin with).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 12, 2013, 09:37:08 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 12, 2013, 06:03:44 PM
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A private orginization designed to help the homeless find homes and jobs. Don't statists say this doesn't happen?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 12, 2013, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on October 12, 2013, 09:37:08 AM
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Hell yeah, man I want a refund on those stupid books...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 13, 2013, 11:13:05 AM
I looked over D&D next/5th ed and I still think I prefer Pathfinder.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 13, 2013, 06:43:23 PM
last thing I remember playing in this vain was a Shadowrun LARP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 14, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
Quote from: tnu on October 13, 2013, 06:43:23 PM
last thing I remember playing in this vain was a Shadowrun LARP.

Last pencil and paper RPG I played was a Star Trek game.  Using the FASA Star Trek system, which was ended back in the second ir third season of TNG because of Paramount claiming license violations. (And the inclusion of the the famous photo of a Ferengi without his dentures in the TNG Season One sourcebook. That Brannon Braga attributed this picture to a random mugging for a camera somewhere off-set at Paramount shows how out of touch with Trek he always was. The background is badly out of focus, but it's the surface set of the Portal Planet from the first regular episode of the series.) I left that game in 1999. We kept using the system because we all liked it and it worked, as long as the GM invoked the correct house adjustments.

I played in one of the early Shadowrun versions. I found it frustrating.

I had great fun in the West End Games Star Wars RPG. (This is the one where if you try to use a lightsabre without developing the skill first, you can lop of our own limbs.) One campaign got a little out of hand. The GM let one player play an alien that was, basically, an anime elf. Later on, a one-shot adventure for a night when half the players didn't turn up introduced Marvel-style mutants. Next thing you know, we've got Star Wars with mutants and elves and vampires and werewolves all over the place.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 14, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on October 14, 2013, 11:29:42 PM
The Firey Joker joshscorcher (http://www.youtube.com/user/joshscorcher?feature=watch) created this gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS1rPI3O7EE) in light of all the false DMCA claims being filed by Shout! Factory against brony reviewers like him. It's a great smackdown against greedy corporate cronies that want to abuse intellectual property to go after YouTube reviewers, and why such reviews are perfectly within fair use:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2013, 01:17:19 PM
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Damn, the fruit didn't fall far from the tree!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2013, 06:33:38 PM
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:) I think even BlameThe1st will like this one.  The bit on religion reminds me of Lord T Hawkeye saying that anyone who's religious and honest about it would call the state heresy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 15, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
QuoteEvey: All this riot and uproar, V... is this Anarchy? Is this the Land of Do-As-You-Please?
V: No. This is only the land of take-what-you-want. Anarchy means 'without leaders', not 'without order'. With anarchy comes an age of ordnung, of true order, which is to say voluntary order... this age of ordnung will begin when the mad and incoherent cycle of verwirrung that these bulletins reveal has run its course... This is not anarchy, Evey. This is chaos.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 15, 2013, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 15, 2013, 06:33:38 PM
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:) I think even BlameThe1st will like this one.  The bit on religion reminds me of Lord T Hawkeye saying that anyone who's religious and honest about it would call the state heresy.

he is right: you see what the Ba'athists tell people to say, at the pain of death? "No God but Bashshar", not "No God but God". At least unlike in America, they're honest about it their Government being their god.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 16, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 17, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
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Fucking classic that would never be put on TV today. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 17, 2013, 07:54:56 PM
Three articles from Dale Everett a few years ago that really stick it to that BleedingHeartLibertarian shitstain:
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/02/02/the-slave-test/
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/02/03/imprisoned-over-a-hat/
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/02/09/who-will-build-the-slave-roads/

Read them in all in order.  But if you want a truncated version, this bit from the last one says it all:

"It begins to seem complicated indeed to determine how much of our productivity is being siphoned off by our masters, but I said you wouldn't need your calculator to determine what percent a slave you are. So let's put this in perspective. If you were a slave in Egypt building the pyramids or one violently kidnapped from Africa in the early years of the U.S., were you 100% a slave based on the above method? Obviously your masters would have to allow you the means of survival and in most cases they probably allowed you something to keep your morale up and keep you more productive. You would have had slave quarters and rations and time to sleep, and perhaps even some time off for a bit of recreation under strict guidance by your masters depending on how humane your masters were. So would you be considered partially free because your masters chose to allow you some time for your own needs and to reap a small bit of benefit from your productivity?

What makes you a slave is that you are under the complete control of your masters. If you have any choices at all, it's only because your masters graciously allow you some small measure of choice, and they could choose not to allow those same choices the very next day. Your masters own you completely and they alone choose what of your productivity you get to keep from one moment to the next. So put away the calculator. Until no one else has first dibs on your productivity, and until you are supporting yourself and making your own decisions about your own life, you are 100% a slave."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 17, 2013, 09:30:10 PM
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I think we have a winner.  Karen's answer to the "good" feminists.  Similar reasoning can be applied to Christians and Muslims (and religious people in general) too. At least insofar as the bit she speaks of in that the "nice" feminists tend to be bolstering the insane feminists.  And indeed has been applied to at least Muslims by Christopher Hitchens, IIRC.
But more importantly, the last part can also be applied to statists too, specifically:
"But if you fly the flag of hatred and violence, don't expect me to pat you on the head and say, 'That's okay, I know you're one of the nice ones.' Fuck you. Grow up and stop pretending there's no problem using the same flag as those who advocate eugenics and mass murder! Grow up!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 18, 2013, 12:44:37 AM
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I know I rag on Storm clouds but he's on more on point with this video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 18, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat/videos
I could post certain videos, but honestly, near as I can tell, her whole channel belongs in this thread.
Her videos are long, but worth the watch.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 18, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
"To say, 'Either obey my rules, or get out of MY house' is one thing. To say, 'Obey my rules, or get out of YOUR house,' which is what that statist argument amounts to, implies that the politicians are the rightful owners of everything. They aren't. Their argument is akin to saying, 'If you don't like robbery, then don't live anywhere that robbery occurs!' It's juvenile and idiotic." -- Larken Rose in the comments of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auf1rehiA-4)

Yet another nail in an argument whose coffin is now more steel than wood!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 18, 2013, 03:06:19 PM
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Epic win.  Now apply the logic given by Matt and AronRa to the state and you have such epic win that it NEEDS to be in this thread. :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 18, 2013, 11:32:34 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/if-you-ve-done-nothing-wrong.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 18, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
From the comments of and in response to this video:  [yt]1GjpDbQb8BM[/yt]

"Default, the money was borrowed on collateral that wasn't theirs to borrow on in the first place (the future productivity of children and the unborn).
China and other debtors will whine? Cry me a river. Maybe they'll learn not to lend to proven deadbeats in the future."--Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 19, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2013, 10:57:46 AM
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2013, 12:18:43 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_16521_5-tiny-mistakes-that-led-to-huge-catastrophes.html
Note how many are due to government...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 21, 2013, 09:33:09 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 21, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 21, 2013, 05:17:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 21, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 21, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 22, 2013, 11:08:46 AM
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/1011_600665669969304_238585298_n.jpg)

At first I wans't sure what i was looking at thenI realized only three of the colors were on the pie-chart itself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 22, 2013, 12:06:32 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 22, 2013, 11:08:46 AM
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At first I wans't sure what i was looking at thenI realized only three of the colors were on the pie-chart itself.
But what if I am just selfish?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 22, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on October 22, 2013, 12:06:32 PM
But what if I am just selfish?

That's a grey area. Or is it blue? I can't really see it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on October 22, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 22, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
That's a grey area. Or is it blue? I can't really see it.

It's light blue.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 22, 2013, 02:28:21 PM
honestly though black gold and white are perfect choices for the  anti-state ideals though the panarchist in me wnats to see red represented somewhere.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 22, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 22, 2013, 05:04:18 PM
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Fatass around 5:30 should get a life. Nobody who isn't a fucking idiot/control freak gives a shit if some company wants to offer a cheaper service using smaller cars.
Lol dumbass at the ending.
"If we don't regulate a transit service, the terrorist will win" The funny part is she probably believes it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 24, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
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#1--Sounds like prohibition didn't work...
#2--Wow...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 24, 2013, 09:15:01 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 24, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
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#1--Sounds like prohibition didn't work...
#2--Wow...

While the total number of people held in slavery is now larger than ever in history, this is largely the result of the population being so many times greater than at any previous time.  The proportion of people held as slaves is lower than at any previous time in history, and there is now no industry anywhere in the world that is dependent on slave laborers.  We're within striking distance of the first time in human history where the horror of slavery might not exist anywhere, and governments played very little part in it.

A particularly odious example is India, which has laws prohibiting slavery, and by all normal metrics is, on the whole, a prosperous and well developed nation, has a stuborn problem of at least one form of trans-generational debt slavery in some regions.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 24, 2013, 01:48:33 PM
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and why haven't I posted this yet!? (The first person to guess gets a cluon!)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 24, 2013, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 24, 2013, 01:48:33 PM
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and why haven't I posted this yet!? (The first person to guess gets a cluon!)
To guess what?
The video description says: "This clip is from the 1957 British comedy film Á King In New York', directed by and starring Charlie Chaplin in his last leading role, which presents a satirical view of certain aspects of United States politics and society. The film was produced in Europe after Chaplin's exile from the US in 1952. It did not open in the United States until 1967.
The young boy's name is Michael Chaplin, son of Charlie Chaplin."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 24, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
watch the video and you may find out why.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 24, 2013, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 24, 2013, 01:48:33 PM
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and why haven't I posted this yet!? (The first person to guess gets a cluon!)

Charlie Chaplin wins the Internets from beyond the grave!

yeah, he made a lot of awesome lines like these: did you see the one where he plays a dictator? awesome stuff.
in case you haven't seen the clip I refer to, here it is:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 24, 2013, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 24, 2013, 07:55:36 AM#1--Sounds like prohibition didn't work...

Who wants to bet they're things like sex slaves? Prohibition CAUSES slavery.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 24, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 24, 2013, 06:09:16 PM
Who wants to bet they're things like sex slaves? Prohibition CAUSES slavery.
I'd make that bet.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 24, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 25, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
I just saw this gem on facebook.

QuoteI just got racked over the coals by a liberal because our state refused to expand medicaid. So her friend doesn't get subsides. I stated that a state 100 miles away does, maybe she should move there. DAMN that pissed them off. But they tell me to leave the entire country.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 25, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on October 25, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on October 24, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
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So what do you like about this?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 25, 2013, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on October 25, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
So what do you like about this?

I'm wondering that myself. At first glance, I thought it was going to be a parody of how Superman and Batman are public enemies because of all the private property destruction they engage in!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on October 25, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 25, 2013, 12:29:40 PM
I'm wondering that myself. At first glance, I thought it was going to be a parody of how Superman and Batman are public enemies because of all the private property destruction they engage in!

:shrug:
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 25, 2013, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on October 25, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
So what do you like about this?
The part where superman beats the shit out of  luthor after he thinks batman is dead.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 25, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 25, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
I just saw this gem on facebook.
Oh snap! Whoever got told is gonna need some burn heal!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 25, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
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:)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on October 26, 2013, 04:35:18 AM
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go gramps
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 26, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
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Out of all the series so far, this is my fav/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 26, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
"Hyperinflation has already occurred. The dollar has lost so much value over the past century. A dollar in 1912 was worth $20 today.

Austrians predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. They predicted the housing bubble burst. And they are dead right about monetary inflation. Meanwhile, Keynesians like Krugman and Bernanke were the ones pushing the same failed policies that created our economic recession.

Even if Austrian economics is not based on evidence, the evidence seems to be in our favor."--Our BlameThe1st on the comments of this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 29, 2013, 05:14:53 PM
QuoteWal-Mart has never listened into my phone conversations or hacked into my e-mail. Wal-Mart has never forced me to do anything against my will.

Yet people will continue to view corporations to as "the evil capitalists" and the government will continue to get a free pass.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 29, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 29, 2013, 05:14:53 PM

*standing ovation*
And of course, while it's true corporations like Verizon help with that, funny how the ONLY examples statists can come up with involve ones where companies collude with government!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 29, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: tnu on October 29, 2013, 05:14:53 PM

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on October 31, 2013, 12:34:46 AM
    Morality is simple.  Whenever someone claims otherwise, it is invariably due to personal exceptions they have added.  - Wraith

He's truly a joy to talk to.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 31, 2013, 08:12:56 AM
More LIBERTARIAN KANE!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on October 31, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
http://www.memecenter.com/fun/2401627/growlithe-does-not-have-mercy (http://www.memecenter.com/fun/2401627/growlithe-does-not-have-mercy)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 31, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/le-biology-640x708.png)

I lol'ed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on November 01, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 01, 2013, 03:47:48 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/Kw5YyTR

I'm liking this guy so far too.

Now if he'd call out warmongers for their sins, then I'd REALLY like him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 01, 2013, 02:12:21 PM
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4125
Been looking for this. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 01, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e14-bloody-mary
So much win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 01, 2013, 08:51:24 PM
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Why is this posted here?  I mean, I could understand if it was a satire or comedy like South Park criticizing something, but this anime without an explanation why it's posted here just seems out of place.  Is it because you just liked the scene?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 01, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
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A fucking classic by Raymond Dundas.

Reminds me of this comment of win by Shane to shchpendrop:


Quote from: Shane Killian"Now, what happens when you don't pay in the US? Funny how YOU don't want to answer THAT question!"

No, LIAR, asked and answered AND YOU KNOW IT: they bill you, and send you to collections if you don't pay.

What FUCKING LIARS like you WANT to believe is that they just leave people to die because they can't pay. DOESN'T HAPPEN.
The kicker?  Even IF doctors practicing in the US kicked poor people out if they didn't pay all of it upfront that would be an argument in OUR favor, not theirs.  We're AGAINST the US corporatist system and always have been as libertarians.  Especially considering our government spends more on healthcare than most UHC countries...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 02, 2013, 12:33:59 AM
QuoteWhen they ask me why I don't go to Somalia I say because it hasn't recovered from the damage statists did to it.


QuoteHere is a novel idea! Let people eat what they want, and let them pay for their OWN health insurance. Then REMOVE the laws that PREVENT health insurance companies from charging UNHEALTHY people more money! Why, then we might actually have freedom, a free market, and the unhealthy people will end up paying MORE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION! Then they can start eating more healthy to lower their costs. Wow, amazing how things just WORK when you stop trying to control everyone!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 02, 2013, 06:49:37 AM
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Sometimes I think it's okay to laugh at ourselves once in a while.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2013, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 31, 2013, 12:34:46 AM
    Morality is simple.  Whenever someone claims otherwise, it is invariably due to personal exceptions they have added.  - Wraith

He's truly a joy to talk to.  ^^
Sounds like it. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on November 02, 2013, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: D on November 02, 2013, 06:49:37 AM
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Sometimes I think it's okay to laugh at ourselves once in a while.

LOL at the ending
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2013, 03:04:48 PM
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2012/07/23/why-libertarians-should-support-science-based-medicine/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
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Love it when Stef's on his game. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/A-case-of-a-guilty-conscience-405158014
Very original critique of religion.  Well done once again, Hawkeye. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 03, 2013, 01:01:49 AM
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The Strange Calls can be seen on hulu
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 03, 2013, 03:17:02 PM
*EDIT*
Okay, since neither image will display, I'll just have to say what they conveyed *sigh*.

Comic one: Some dude: "How's that total civilian gun ban workin' out for you, England?"
English Bloke: "Oh, just great! We now have more violent crime per capita than the USA.  Invasions of occupied homes are very popular!"
Scottish dude: "I'm now the most violent western nation!"

Comic two (someone going door to door converses with someone that goes like this):
Anti-gunner:  Will you sign this petition to ban guns?
Pro-gunner:  On one condition.
Anti-gunner:  What's that?
PG: That the army, police and organized crime all give up their guns first!
AG: What?
PG: ...And until they do, I reserve the right to be just as well armed as everybody else.  That's only fair, isn't it?
AG: um...
PG: You wouldn't want me to be the victim of unfairness, now would you?
AG: Well, no, but...
PG: (patting her on the head)--Then we're agreed.  Have a nice day.
*PG goes back inside and closes the door*
Written on the bottom of the comic below the panels:
"Most anti-gunners have no idea of what they're asking for.  They're just mindlessly parroting the slogans they've been fed.  Treat them as gently as you would any other half-wit."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 03, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
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Any room for one more co-host? ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on November 03, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
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Any room for one more co-host? ;D

Skype me. I think 3 co-hosts at a time should be the max, but there are times when the others can't make it. More co-hosts makes it more flexible for me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 03, 2013, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Skype me. I think 3 co-hosts at a time should be the max, but there are times when the others can't make it. More co-hosts makes it more flexible for me.

Yeah, I admit I don't always have the luxury of being available for the podcast.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 03, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Skype me. I think 3 co-hosts at a time should be the max, but there are times when the others can't make it. More co-hosts makes it more flexible for me.

When should I skype and what is your skype?

edit: i tried looking around the site and i cant find any info about it. Maybe im not looking in the right places.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 03, 2013, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Skype me. I think 3 co-hosts at a time should be the max, but there are times when the others can't make it. More co-hosts makes it more flexible for me.

I sent you a message on Skype but you havn't responded.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on November 03, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
When should I skype and what is your skype?

edit: i tried looking around the site and i cant find any info about it. Maybe im not looking in the right places.

shane.killian
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 03, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Got it, thanks. When does the show usually get recorded?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on November 03, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Got it, thanks. When does the show usually get recorded?

Sometime Friday or Saturday.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 03, 2013, 08:23:22 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 08:09:39 PM
Sometime Friday or Saturday.
Can you also post the show to the podcast section like you usually do?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 03, 2013, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 03, 2013, 08:23:22 PM
Can you also post the show to the podcast section like you usually do?

Dangit, that one got lost in the rush today. Sorry.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 03, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
It's cool, it happens.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 04, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 04, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
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Every single comment on the above video left by MSFHMysticJoJo (Lord T Hawkeye's friend Wraith).

A sample:  "Who the hell here is advocating pre-state society? We sure as hell wouldn't want to forget the lessons society has learned from being oppressed by "leader" after "leader". Removing the state means removing tools for one person to oppress hundreds and returns personal accountability to every single individual, while keeping technological and cultural advances. We are clearly talking about "post-state", and you need to acknowledge that."
Very well put. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 04, 2013, 03:39:35 PM
"In my experience, socialists and communists are indistinguishable from libertarians when they're talking about why an oppressive government should be taken down. It's only when you ask what should come after the government is topped that they somehow think that they can do it right next time, even though that's what everyone said every other time it happened.

They just don't learn."--Shane, in response to being told many book authors, like Orwell, are socialists/communists in the comments of this video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 04, 2013, 04:21:56 PM
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/09/29/evolving-beyond-retribution/
Very well put, Dale.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 04, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
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Classic video by CDK007.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 06, 2013, 12:19:43 PM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s17e05-taming-strange
Epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on November 06, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
The perfect comeback to all the establishment types bawwing over Ken Cucinelli's loss and blaming it on Sarvis:

(http://i.imgur.com/dswd74X.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 06, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s17e02-informative-murder-porn
So much win. ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 07, 2013, 01:28:40 AM
Quote from: tnu on November 04, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
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stupid communist #2 (the woman): "I've never met anyone who went into med school for money"

yeah, I'm torn between this:

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or this:

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sorry couldn't resist: I mean imagine the implications of that line. Has she been living under a rock?! I don't know a single family member of mine, or friend, or neighbor, who went to med school who didn't do it for the money--if in part at least. I went to a geology school precisely because it has a fall-back plan that can net me lots of money: I can work for an oil or mining company, if I can't be a professor, and I will be damn well paid for it too! my dad went to a business school so he could make lots of money running grandad's business!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 07, 2013, 07:54:44 AM
Some good news ab out police behavior for a change.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-worry-about-being-caught-on-video-researcher-says-1.2417618 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-worry-about-being-caught-on-video-researcher-says-1.2417618)

Quote

About 74 per cent of the officers who participated in the study reported having modified different aspects of their behaviour while on duty.

More than half of them said it's reduced the number of times they use force on the job or that they have reduced the strength of the force they use.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 07, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on November 07, 2013, 07:54:44 AM
Some good news ab out police behavior for a change.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-worry-about-being-caught-on-video-researcher-says-1.2417618 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-worry-about-being-caught-on-video-researcher-says-1.2417618)

Isn't correct behaviour only because you fear consequences generally considered a bad thing? Isn't that one of the main points held against theists?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 08, 2013, 07:44:52 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 07, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Isn't correct behaviour only because you fear consequences generally considered a bad thing? Isn't that one of the main points held against theists?

There are people for whom the fear of consequences is the required measure to prevent undesirable behavior.  Unfortunately, there seem to be rather a lot of those employed as police.  This may be because, traditionally, police have been able to act with impunity to a great degree in many, if not most, countries.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 08, 2013, 08:50:04 AM
I think a lot of it also comes with the authoritarian mindset: whatever the police do is automatically right. So they've lost that moral compass, and they need the threat of repercussions to behave.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 08, 2013, 09:43:29 PM
Who said SpongeBob wasn't a smart show?!?

http://silverunderground.com/2013/11/controversy-erupts-as-spongebob-refuses-unemployment-benefits/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 09, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
This is from the link I posted in fail quotes

QuoteMeh. I was butthurt for like a minute then just pictured Pinkie as Alex Jones and was able to laugh....

>Climate change is a hoax?
The prediction models need more work....but of course it isn't a hoax. Anybody coming out of high school should know that, other things equal, if you emit a ton of carbon dioxide, it'll add to the greenhouse gases and trap heat. More so, there is more than enough empirical data to conclude the Earth is indeed getting warmer in the long-term. This doesn't mean; however, I have to agree with government policy regarding it, which reeks of oil corporations using regulations that don't even reduce carbon emissions to begin with to force smaller businesses out of the market.
>Poor people have refrigerators and food?
Well...in America they do. Higher standard of living and all. Based on accumulation of capital over decades. Moving on....
>Racial entitlement voting and liberal....oh fuck this. I'm skipping this part. It's pointless.
>Drones coming
I thought we could all agree the President's unwillingness to be clear on the drone program is unnerving...
>Death Camps
No. No death camps. Plenty of places for political prisoners, but you can find that in any nation. I would love to see the U.S government actually try to exterminate part of the population...
>No guns
Again, I thought we could all agree the U.S government's beefing up of its military and police force while trying to restrict firearms for citizens is concerning.
>Healthcare will kill us all
Given the current issues with it, I think we can logically say that Obamacare's misallocation of resources within the health insurance market will lead to people's health being at greater risk than before.

Kinda disheartening Being Liberal wants to portray us like this...especially in areas where we could all agree on common issues. Oh well...I don't expect much from the page to begin with.

#AppTRL
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 13, 2013, 11:55:14 AM
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Is it not glorious that we have the FDA to protect us from this stuff? Oh wait...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 13, 2013, 06:33:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=590141567689703&set=a.482375218466339.94965.441052105931984&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2013, 06:45:42 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20705_5-ways-u.s.-democracy-more-rigged-than-you-think.html
I'm so shocked, I could die at any moment.  D :

Shane, I think that one's more relevant to you than it is me, but yeah, can't say I'm surprised by any of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-awesome-things-with-inexplicably-bad-reputations/
#3 especially.  Cracked.com's on a roll today. :)
okay, #1 is a bit lame (more beating on MRAs, and crap).  And I don't even wear hats...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 14, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Anybody watching stosssels rise of  libertarians on fox busines now? ill probably post a link to the episode afterwords.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 14, 2013, 06:45:42 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20705_5-ways-u.s.-democracy-more-rigged-than-you-think.html
I'm so shocked, I could die at any moment.  D :

Shane, I think that one's more relevant to you than it is me, but yeah, can't say I'm surprised by any of it.

Notice how they use NC as an example of fraudulent districting...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
Notice how they use NC as an example of fraudulent districting...
I DID say it was more relevant to your interests.  And yeah, condolences. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
Politics is the Mind-Killer by Eliezer Yudkowsky http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/

Some excerpts:

QuotePeople go funny in the head when talking about politics.  The evolutionary reasons for this are so obvious as to be worth belaboring:  In the ancestral environment, politics was a matter of life and death.  And sex, and wealth, and allies, and reputation...  When, today, you get into an argument about whether "we" ought to raise the minimum wage, you're executing adaptations for an ancestral environment where being on the wrong side of the argument could get you killed.

QuotePolitics is an extension of war by other means.  Arguments are soldiers.  Once you know which side you're on, you must support all arguments of that side, and attack all arguments that appear to favor the enemy side; otherwise it's like stabbing your soldiers in the back—providing aid and comfort to the enemy.  People who would be level-headed about evenhandedly weighing all sides of an issue in their professional life as scientists, can suddenly turn into slogan-chanting zombies when there's a Blue or Green position on an issue.

BTW, this is the same guy who wrote the Harry Potter fanfic I mentioned on the podcast awhile back. I'm rapidly becoming a fan! Especially after he said this:

Quote(And no, before anyone asks, I am not a Republican.  Or a Democrat.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
So it sounds like if we existed back then, we'd have been killed.  Yet here we are today.  And probably more necessary than ever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 12:29:14 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 15, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
So it sounds like if we existed back then, we'd have been killed.  Yet here we are today.  And probably more necessary than ever.

It's certainly something to think about when a statist gives you that "We've always chosen a state throughout history" malarkey: those who didn't were usually killed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 12:29:14 PM
It's certainly something to think about when a statist gives you that "We've always chosen a state throughout history" malarkey: those who didn't were usually killed.
Indeed.  Hell, even at best that argument of theirs is a best game in town fallacy--or close to one if anything.  Well, in addition to status quo bias, appeal to tradition and popularity, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 17, 2013, 01:27:04 PM
Cool scottish guy talking about the facts about democratic socialism

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 17, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 15, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Indeed.  Hell, even at best that argument of theirs is a best game in town fallacy--or close to one if anything.  Well, in addition to status quo bias, appeal to tradition and popularity, but you get the idea.

Additionally, I think it can be reasonably argued that we have not chosen the state throughout history; more often than not there was some individual or group of individuals that were stronger (in one way or the other) than everyone else in the community, and imposed their will on everyone else. In time, this evolved into a government-which in turn evolved into a state.

It's actually my one problem with setting up a libertarian community: I have no reason to believe anything different would happen.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 17, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 17, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
It's actually my one problem with setting up a libertarian community: I have no reason to believe anything different would happen.

Just make sure everyone's armed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 17, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 17, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Just make sure everyone's armed.
That and a few dozen nukes would be more than enough to deter invasion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on November 18, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
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Bitch at 14:30. My reaction was saying what for 10 seconds straight. What?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 19, 2013, 07:06:13 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 19, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/the-4-worst-recent-police-fails-in-america/
Dang.  Another one that got past their radar.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on November 19, 2013, 01:03:46 PM
Money quote from The Skeptical Libertarian about the media

QuoteFox news doesn't make Republicans . MSNBC doesn't make Democrats. People flock to these media sources for the very same reason that libertarians flock to Lew Rockwell and truthers flock to Infowars: because they confirm what people already believe
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 19, 2013, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on November 19, 2013, 01:03:46 PM
Money quote from The Skeptical Libertarian about the media
No, because I don't like being bukkaked with stupid. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 19, 2013, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on November 19, 2013, 01:03:46 PM
Money quote from The Skeptical Libertarian about the media

QuoteFox news doesn't make Republicans . MSNBC doesn't make Democrats. People flock to these media sources for the very same reason that libertarians flock to Lew Rockwell and truthers flock to Infowars: because they confirm what people already believe

I don't know if this is strictly true. First off, Mises.org isn't as easy to casually run across as MSNBC and Fox News; second, a lot of us ran into those sites before we were libertarian, and they helped "turn" us.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 20, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 20, 2013, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
Politics is the Mind-Killer by Eliezer Yudkowsky http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/

Turns out (as I sorta expected) Yudkowski is a "very small-'l' libertarian" (in his words):

QuoteWhat would it take to get you to change your mind about libertarianism? What are the arguments such that, if they were decisively refuted, you would actually change your mind?

When I ask myself this question, I think my actual political views would change primarily with my beliefs about how likely government interventions are in practice to do more harm than good. I think my libertarianism rests chiefly on the empirical proposition—a factual belief which is either false or true, depending on how the universe actually works—that 90% of the time you have a bright idea like "offer government mortgage guarantees so that more people can own houses," someone will somehow manage to screw it up, or there'll be side effects you didn't think about, and most of the time you'll end up doing more harm than good, and the next time won't be much different from the last time.

I think if you sent me to an alternate universe where politicians were honest, bureaucrats cared, and voters weren't so irrational—a world where good-idea policy initiatives tended to actually accomplish their stated goals without unexpected negative side effects—a world where the clear and visible end result of getting governments to do more and more was that economies grew faster and faster and people became happier and happier—then, in that world, I wouldn't be a libertarian.

And I think it would genuinely rip the heart out of my libertarianism, if you showed me that I already live in that world today. I just find that proposition hard to square with Google News and history books.

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2011/09/07/eliezer-yudkowsky/true-rejection
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 21, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 17, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
Additionally, I think it can be reasonably argued that we have not chosen the state throughout history; more often than not there was some individual or group of individuals that were stronger (in one way or the other) than everyone else in the community, and imposed their will on everyone else. In time, this evolved into a government-which in turn evolved into a state.

It's actually my one problem with setting up a libertarian community: I have no reason to believe anything different would happen.

Fear for.  Stef's here to ease your worries

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Short version.

1. That wouldn't be a good argument against statelessness even if it were true.

2. Any attempt to violently seize power and take over a society is thwarted by one question: How are you going to pay for it?  War needs taxes.  There's no other way.  Nobody would ever voluntarily invest in war knowing they'll eat the losses if it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on November 21, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
Fear for.  Stef's here to ease your worries

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Short version.

1. That wouldn't be a good argument against statelessness even if it were true.

2. Any attempt to violently seize power and take over a society is thwarted by one question: How are you going to pay for it?  War needs taxes.  There's no other way.  Nobody would ever voluntarily invest in war knowing they'll eat the losses if it doesn't work out.
Shit, I almost forgot about that.  Thanks!  Someone just earned his 43rd cluon.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2013, 05:05:48 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-recent-trends-that-make-it-hard-to-trust-police/
The only fail here is the word "recent"...Well, that I saw.  Didn't read it, but I suspect it will be win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 22, 2013, 09:12:40 PM
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This will only make sense if you've ever watched Mike Francesa, but it's still pretty a funny parody of sports radio anyway.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 24, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/24/property-and-force-a-reply-to-matt-bruen
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 24, 2013, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on November 24, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/24/property-and-force-a-reply-to-matt-bruen
That was Matt Bruen's main point?  A thinly veiled rehash of "well what counts as force is subjective, hur dur!"?  Whoa, leave some of that originality for us, there, captain ambitious!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 24, 2013, 04:21:24 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 25, 2013, 09:34:10 PM
As a wrestling fan, all I can say is A-FUCKING-MEN!

(http://botchedspot.com/files/comics/2013-10-13-plays-wrestling.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 26, 2013, 09:17:01 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 26, 2013, 12:59:33 PM
Dear "HUR DUR FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!" fucktards--chew on this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20684_5-everyday-annoyances-that-are-actually-worldwide-disasters.html
Note everything on this list is either directly related to government, in something govco has strict control over, or is flat out caused by government.  Well, okay, with the possible exception of weather forecasts.  Though I don't it's helping at the very least...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on November 26, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
Considering how atheist organizations are currently trying to force churches to pay taxes, this video seems relevant, and a poignant explanation as to why this shouldn't be:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 26, 2013, 10:45:19 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on November 26, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
Considering how atheist organizations are currently trying to force churches to pay taxes, this video seems relevant, and a poignant explanation as to why this shouldn't be:

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Didn't watch the video. Your church SHOULD pay taxes BECAUSE of separation of church and state. Pretending the assets belong to the sky dictator doesn't grant you special privileges. If you want to make an argument based on whatever humanitarian services your church provides; okay, but then you have to have all the same reporting/regulation that any secular organization that was providing those services would have. Also, like those organizations, the way it should be is: What you use to operate the organization, and actually provide services is tax exempt; the pastor's salary ISN'T.

Also, I can't think of an "atheist organization" trying to "force" this. At most, there's random people on the internet, like myself, expressing an OPINION about it. The "atheist organizations" are mostly stopping you from having "church" in city hall, and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 07:41:59 AM
Solution--just abolish taxation so what the church has isn't special treatment anymore.  Bam, easiest thing in the history of forever.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
Which doesn't address the issue at hand. There's an earth-shattering difference between "let's not have taxes, or regulations, or government", and "let's not have the taxes, regulations, and government that applies to everybody else apply to me because...snow elves."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 07:01:50 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
Which doesn't address the issue at hand
Taxation is the issue.  So yes, yes it does.  Deal with it.

Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 06:57:17 PMThere's an earth-shattering difference between "let's not have taxes, or regulations, or government", and "let's not have the taxes, regulations, and government that applies to everybody else apply to me because...snow elves."
In one case you have a group not being subjected to institutionalized robbery (taxes) because they belong to a group, and another where said institutionalized robbery isn't a thing.  That *is* the issue and how you solve the issue of it being 'special treatment'.  If it's special treatment to not rape some group or people, the solution isn't to therefore rape them along with everyone else, the solution is to just not rape anyone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: T dog on November 27, 2013, 07:01:50 PM
Taxation is the issue.  So yes, yes it does.  Deal with it.
In one case you have a group not being subjected to institutionalized robbery (taxes) because they belong to a group, and another where said institutionalized robbery isn't a thing.  That *is* the issue and how you solve the issue of it being 'special treatment'.  If it's special treatment to not rape some group or people, the solution isn't to therefore rape them along with everyone else, the solution is to just not rape anyone.

No taxes for everyone is not what's being asked for by the proponents of tax-exempt status for churches, so NO, NO IT DON'T. Deal with it.

I can't believe you even brought rape up. I consider that a Hitler argument.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
No taxes for everyone is not what's being asked for by the proponents of tax-exempt status for churches, so NO, NO IT DON'T. Deal with it.
Then they're special pleading for those they don't want taxed.  Which doesn't exactly help you or the OP.

Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:19:16 PMI can't believe you even brought rape up. I consider that a Hitler argument.
Don't your panties in a twist, it was a legitimate example of initiated force, used to illustrate the point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 27, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
guys? is this going to be going on for a while?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: T dog on November 27, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
Then they're special pleading for those they don't want taxed. 
Which is the point

QuoteDon't your panties in a twist, it was a legitimate example of initiated force, used to illustrate the point.

I understood what you were trying to say; if there was some world where everyone in the population was subject to rape, except...those people...it would be a legitmate example. Since there isn't, it's not.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 28, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
I understood what you were trying to say; if there was some world where everyone in the population was subject to rape, except...those people...it would be a legitmate example. Since there isn't, it's not.

I don't think you understand the point being made at all.

The purpose of using an obviously wrong action as an example is to illustrate WHY the solution for a situation in which there are people exempted from a wrong is to remove the wrong, not the exemption.  George Carlin wasn't being more moral by advocating the taxation of churches, he was being more consistently immoral.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 28, 2013, 09:36:15 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on November 28, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
I don't think you understand the point being made at all.

The purpose of using an obviously wrong action as an example is to illustrate WHY the solution for a situation in which there are people exempted from a wrong is to remove the wrong, not the exemption.  George Carlin wasn't being more moral by advocating the taxation of churches, he was being more consistently immoral.
10/10.  Exactly.

What's more if there are people the OP/Dallen didn't want taxed, then my criticism of him in the above post:
Quote from: T dog on November 27, 2013, 07:01:50 PM
In one case you have a group not being subjected to institutionalized robbery (taxes) because they belong to a group, and another where said institutionalized robbery isn't a thing.  That *is* the issue and how you solve the issue of it being 'special treatment'.  If it's special treatment to not rape some group or people, the solution isn't to therefore rape them along with everyone else, the solution is to just not rape anyone.
holds--he's a special pleader as much as those who don't want churches to be taxed.  If not, then his accusation of a strawman--
Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
No taxes for everyone is not what's being asked for by the proponents of tax-exempt status for churches, so NO, NO IT DON'T. Deal with it.
is bogus.

Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:53:41 PMWhich is the point
Yes it is.  And my point is that being consistently moral--abolishing taxation--is far better than being consistently immoral--"TAX EVERYONE!"

Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
I understood what you were trying to say; if there was some world where everyone in the population was subject to rape, except...those people...it would be a legitmate example. Since there isn't, it's not.
It's a difference of magnitude, not of type.  It's still coercion.  My point still stands.
Actually, it's even better (or worse depending on your point of view) than that: if you don't pay your taxes you'll be sent letters in the mail, if you ignore them eventually cops come to your house to arrest you.  Resist, and you'll be clubbed and, if not shot, dragged off and thrown into a rape cage called a prison.  Since anyone can go there--well, beside cops--your arbitrary line in the sand of a reason is even more moot.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 28, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
I think you guys are talking about two separate things. One is the morality of taxation, and the other is the importance of equal protection. They're both very important but completely separate fights.

It's kind of like the gay marriage thing; opposition to government-licensed marriage and the insistence that equal protection means the licenses should be available to gays as well are two completely different things.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 28, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Stefan MolynuexThe statist looks at a problem and always sees a gun as the only solution – the force of the
state, the brutality of law, violence and punishment. The anarchist – the endless
entrepreneur of social organization – always looks at a problem and sees an opportunity
for peaceful, innovative, charitable or profitable problem-solving.

The statist looks at a population and sees an irrational and selfish horde that needs to be
endlessly herded around at gunpoint – and yet looks at those who run the government as
selfless, benevolent and saintly. Yet these same statists always look at this irrational and
dangerous population and say: “You must have the right to choose your political leaders!”
--Everyday Anarchy, p. 21
(To keep things on topic.)

Quote from: MrBogosity on November 28, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
I think you guys are talking about two separate things. One is the morality of taxation, and the other is the importance of equal protection. They're both very important but completely separate fights.

It's kind of like the gay marriage thing; opposition to government-licensed marriage and the insistence that equal protection means the licenses should be available to gays as well are two completely different things.
You mean equality under the law?  As having everyone taxed is kinda the opposite of 'protection' don't you think?  Even if it is equal for everyone.

A better fitting example would be opposition to gov't granted marriage licenses vs having government grant them to all but single group--allowing them freedom from their system--and those not in said group wanting those with 'special treatment' to be in the system of having their marriages need licenses by gov't as well.

Basically treating the negative of not being taxed like a positive of not being allowed into marriage by law.   Opposition to government licensed marriage would be part of the importance of equal protection.  Instead of everyone having a positive on them--gov't forced marriage licenses, they'd all be without it--the negative of freedom.  How is that not also taking into account equal protection into account?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 28, 2013, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 28, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
I think you guys are talking about two separate things. One is the morality of taxation, and the other is the importance of equal protection. They're both very important but completely separate fights.

It's kind of like the gay marriage thing; opposition to government-licensed marriage and the insistence that equal protection means the licenses should be available to gays as well are two completely different things.

Thank-you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 28, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: T dog on November 28, 2013, 11:18:48 AM

A better fitting example would be opposition to gov't granted marriage licenses vs having government grant them to all but single group--allowing them freedom from their system--and those not in said group wanting those with 'special treatment' to be in the system of having their marriages need licenses by gov't as well.

Basically treating the negative of not being taxed like a positive of not being allowed into marriage by law.   Opposition to government licensed marriage would be part of the importance of equal protection.  Instead of everyone having a positive on them--gov't forced marriage licenses, they'd all be without it--the negative of freedom.  How is that not also taking into account equal protection into account?

Okay, I'll accept that. This is a much better example because that is exactly what the gay marriage issue is about.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 28, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
Just one more thing: because then you have to abolish... whatever it happens to be ... every single time it comes up. So far we have tax, rape, and marriage. Next month it will be land development, etc. So, it needs to be established that any rules/regulations/whatever apply to everyone, or no-one; and then if said is bad, maybe the people passing it will realize it's for their group too, and not pass it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 28, 2013, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 28, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
Just one more thing: because then you have to abolish... whatever it happens to be ... every single time it comes up. So far we have tax, rape, and marriage. Next month it will be land development, etc. So, it needs to be established that any rules/regulations/whatever apply to everyone, or no-one; and then if said is bad, maybe the people passing it will realize it's for their group too, and not pass it.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 28, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 28, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
Just one more thing: because then you have to abolish... whatever it happens to be ... every single time it comes up. So far we have tax, rape, and marriage. Next month it will be land development, etc. So, it needs to be established that any rules/regulations/whatever apply to everyone, or no-one; and then if said is bad, maybe the people passing it will realize it's for their group too, and not pass it.
The point is whether or not something is an initiation of force.  If it is, I'm against it.  If it is done on a societal scale--that is institutionalized--I am for the abolition of that institution.  Whether it is theft (taxation), murder (war), etc.  Land development, as long as it is voluntary, is something I am okay with.

But yeah, that is a good point.  It could still progress in an odd way in that universality is advanced.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 29, 2013, 11:31:20 AM
Thunderf00t is back on his game!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 29, 2013, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 29, 2013, 11:31:20 AM
Thunderf00t is back on his game!

[yt]sdwOgc-lR_w[/yt]

I like how he keeps using the word fizzing in place of breathing and living and other chemical reactions XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on November 29, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 01, 2013, 01:17:39 AM
Quote from: tnu on November 29, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
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It's because feminists are offended that they can't get laid. They try to distract you from this with bullshit controversies that normal people ignore.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 01, 2013, 03:20:51 AM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 01, 2013, 01:17:39 AM
It's because feminists are offended that they can't get laid. They try to distract you from this with bullshit controversies that normal people ignore.

Unfortunately, this sort of falls down in the case of Feminists like Gwen Jacobs, who, despite being quite well towards the Barbie end of the spectrum of female body types (which men do not generally find particularly attractive) apparently got laid (she did manage to get pregnant in her early 20s, so that's the most likely route).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2013, 07:12:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2013, 07:31:48 PM
And image stampede, whee!

(http://imageshack.com/a/img801/3958/aak4.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2266/5qbv.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img571/6651/3afm.jpg)

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/cappa_j/alternative-medicine-full_zps0c80c09b.png)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/11090457455_1f4a7c3179_o.png)
Not only in the USA -the same change was made by every occidental country's government after World War II.

(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz17/hammerofdawn/lie_zps1d2c25d0.jpg)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mathematically_annoying.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/uag3fPG.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on December 02, 2013, 02:57:28 AM
Quote from: tnu on November 29, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
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It's not really the same is it? I mean Barbie is more like a human ornament who's supposed to be pretty and not much else while He-Man is a hero who fights evil with both strentgh of body and will and is a champion of good. Not to mention a pretty decent person.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 02, 2013, 04:04:13 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 02, 2013, 02:57:28 AM
It's not really the same is it? I mean Barbie is more like a human ornament who's supposed to be pretty and not much else while He-Man is a hero who fights evil with both strentgh of body and will and is a champion of good. Not to mention a pretty decent person.

I'm not so sure about that... it seems to me Barbie has had just about every occupation in existence over the years.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 02, 2013, 04:37:19 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 02, 2013, 04:04:13 AM
I'm not so sure about that... it seems to me Barbie has had just about every occupation in existence over the years.

Hell, she's even been a musketeer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 02, 2013, 08:13:41 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 02, 2013, 02:55:47 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 02, 2013, 04:37:19 AM
Hell, she's even been a musketeer.

all for barbie and barbie for all!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 02, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 02, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from:  Luke McKinneyThe lesson of Chernobyl is that the most dangerous substance in the world is human stupidity. If everyone who whined about nuclear technology actually understood it, the world's average IQ would increase by 50 points. When idiots drink and drive and kill thousands, we don't ban cars. But when idiots run emergency shutdown tests with an untrained night crew without telling the designer of the reactor or nuclear authority scientists, then deliberately drive the reactor into the nuclear equivalent of "balanced on tiptoes on a stool perched on a stepladder on a table ... made of plutonium," suddenly all nuclear power is evil. Those responsible were so bad at planning that their driving tests all end with proctologists, and they're not allowed to undress themselves without three handlers and a fire extinguisher.
The source is the first paragraph of #1 on this list:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-mind-blowing-places-science-has-discovered-life_p2/
Probably the smartest thing to ever come out of Luke's mouth.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 02, 2013, 07:39:47 PM
(http://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/jillette-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on December 03, 2013, 12:37:07 AM
Not sure who it is by

"If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 03, 2013, 07:35:02 PM
If you are a friend of mine on Facebook, I posted a story about minimum wage which got a discussion going. I linked a video by LearnLiberty featuring professor Antony Davies talking about minimum wage.

Professor Davies ACTUALLY left replies in our discussion and IT WAS AWESOME! (https://www.facebook.com/daveturcotte88/posts/10152019947654724?comment_id=28373040&offset=0&total_comments=13&notif_t=share_comment) (you need to not only have a facebook account but you need to be my friend to see the discussion.)

I'll leave some quotes here though:
QuoteYou are confusing empirical exceptions with fundamental exceptions.

Empirically, I may observe the minimum wage rising and unemployment not changing. The exception is empirical in that the unemployment effects of the minimum wage were small enough to be drowned out by other random events in the market.

There is no fundamental exception -- i.e., it is not the case that the laws of economics somehow don't apply or apply differently. There are no exceptions to economics -- not airports, not health care, nothing. If you believe you've found an exception, you aren't understanding the economics.

QuoteUnemployment isn't only caused by firing people. It is also caused by not hiring people you would have otherwise hired. What you are saying is that there are significant transaction costs to hiring. An increased minimum wage adds to those transaction costs.

Perfectly sums up my reaction:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on December 03, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
Quote from: D on December 03, 2013, 07:35:02 PM
Perfectly sums up my reaction:
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Don't you mean...?

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 03, 2013, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 03, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
Don't you mean...?

[yt]vArje-wXvHA[/yt]

Nooo I was right the first time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 04, 2013, 05:51:56 AM
it's really weird picturing you "starstruck" D. Also BT1 has a point because ponies.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 04, 2013, 01:39:11 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18804_the-6-wrong-questions-men-love-to-ask-about-women.html
Especially #4.  Very well put, Christina.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 04, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 04, 2013, 01:39:11 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18804_the-6-wrong-questions-men-love-to-ask-about-women.html
Especially #4.  Very well put, Christina.

And yet "There are no good men" still gets a pass...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 04, 2013, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 04, 2013, 01:39:11 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18804_the-6-wrong-questions-men-love-to-ask-about-women.html
Especially #4.  Very well put, Christina.

Seems to me a lot of that would be "victim blaming" if the sexes were reversed...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 04, 2013, 10:56:50 PM
Quote from: tnu on December 04, 2013, 10:48:34 PM
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Fromthe comments.

I think you meant to post that in Fail Quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 04, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1486786_10153602359645515_1123561354_n.jpg)

Yes I did sorry abotu that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 05, 2013, 12:58:03 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20724_5-laws-that-made-sense-paper-and-disasters-in-reality.html
I suspect this one will be full of epic win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 05, 2013, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: tnu on December 04, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
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Yes I did sorry abotu that.

And they think that Iran is bad?!

Who next, North Korea?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 05, 2013, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 05, 2013, 01:20:11 PM
And they think that Iran is bad?!

Who next, North Korea?

I'm banking on Zimbabwe, North Korea, the Domocratic republic of Congo, Swaziland, and perhaps a victorious Assad regime.

(yeah, the King of Swaziland is a class act....)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on December 05, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/z8V2616.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 05, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 05, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/z8V2616.jpg)
Glad SOMEONE remembers that.  Hell, I even remember the jabs made at special needs children just to poke fun at Bush.  Yet the Obamatons have the nerve to bitch about "racism"?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 05, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 05, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
Glad SOMEONE remembers that.  Hell, I even remember the jabs made at special needs children just to poke fun at Bush.  Yet the Obamatons have the nerve to bitch about "racism"?

I have had people make excuses for his drone strikes and his NSA spying. Saying that it's because if the republicans or it is better than sending troops. Executive orders anyone?

These people in my eyes, are less than sewage.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 06, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
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Man I can't wait until this game comes out it Dec 13- Oh wait. Dammit i mean march =_=*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 06, 2013, 11:05:42 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/election-rage-640x2237.png)

Is that simple enough now?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 06, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 06, 2013, 11:05:42 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/election-rage-640x2237.png)

Is that simple enough now?

It's simple we all fail LOL
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 12:45:23 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 06, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
It's simple we all fail LOL
Speak for yourself. :P  I'm not a democrat or a republican.  Statists fail.  The false political dichotomy fails.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
Inspired by D's latest nominee of IE/BBE, I think I'd post a gem from days gone by.   But first, some background--if there is any one economic law that has received more undeserved scorn than Say's Law, I've yet to find it.

"Those who think that the destruction of war [or any destruction] increases total 'demand' [or creates wealth/grows the economy/etc] forget that demand and supply are merely two sides of the same coin.  They are the same thing looked at from different directions.  Supply creates demand because at bottom it is demand.  The supply of the thing they make is all that people have, in fact, to offer in exchange for the things they want.  In this sense the farmers’ supply of wheat constitutes their demand for automobiles and other goods.  All this is inherent in the modern division of labor and in an exchange economy." --Henry Hazlitt, Economics in One Lesson
[]'ed terms added by me for completeness sake.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 07, 2013, 05:20:49 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 07, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
Inspired by D's latest nominee of IE/BBE, I think I'd post a gem from days gone by.   But first, some background--if there is any one economic law that has received more undeserved scorn than Say's Law, I've yet to find it.

"Those who think that the destruction of war [or any destruction] increases total 'demand' [or creates wealth/grows the economy/etc] forget that demand and supply are merely two sides of the same coin.  They are the same thing looked at from different directions.  Supply creates demand because at bottom it is demand.  The supply of the thing they make is all that people have, in fact, to offer in exchange for the things they want.  In this sense the farmers' supply of wheat constitutes their demand for automobiles and other goods.  All this is inherent in the modern division of labor and in an exchange economy." --Henry Hazlitt, Economics in One Lesson
[]'ed terms added by me for completeness sake.

And very important to Say's Law is the idea that production must precede consumption. How are you going to buy something that hasn't been produced yet? As near as I can tell, to say Say's Law isn't true is to completely deny causality altogether!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 07, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 07, 2013, 05:20:49 PM
And very important to Say's Law is the idea that production must precede consumption. How are you going to buy something that hasn't been produced yet? As near as I can tell, to say Say's Law isn't true is to completely deny causality altogether!

While true, the absence of [thing] has never once stopped me from wanting [thing]. In fact, sometimes shortage of [thing] sometimes makes me want [thing] all the more, making me willing to pay more when [thing] becomes available.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 09:01:21 PM
(https://i1.ytimg.com/u/cEDTBdietc2JmgN6TL8wAg/channels4_banner.jpg?v=5181e470)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 09:07:45 PM
"We owe the origin and development of human society and, consequently, of culture and civilization, to the fact that work performed under the division of labor is more productive than when performed in isolation."

— Ludwig von Mises, in Epistemological Problems of Economics

Ludwig von Mises: "Despots and democratic majorities are drunk with power. They must reluctantly admit that they are subject to the laws of nature. But they reject the very notion of economic law . . . economic history is a long record of government policies that failed because they were designed with a bold disregard for the laws of economics." - Austrian Economics: An Anthology
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 10:35:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/FXJoRW6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pWVVT8H.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cYpr1vT.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 10:38:30 PM
(http://2378nh2nfow32gm3mb25krmuyy.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/educationwages.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 07, 2013, 10:45:17 PM
[yt]BpVaxl99AOk[/yt]
In short, let the schools and universities go bankrupt.
Okay the bit about "convince the republicans; let's do it using them!" is massive fucking fail.  Yeah, go ask Ron Paul how well that worked out, Schiff.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 08, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 07, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
While true, the absence of [thing] has never once stopped me from wanting [thing]. In fact, sometimes shortage of [thing] sometimes makes me want [thing] all the more, making me willing to pay more when [thing] becomes available.

How does that desire get expressed in the market if [thing] isn't being produced?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 08, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 08, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
How does that desire get expressed in the market if [thing] isn't being produced?

I guess it could provide an incentive to invest in some R&D. Provided of course there's sufficient demand for [thing].
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 08, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20556_5-animal-rights-campaigns-that-managed-to-screw-over-animals.html
This.  This is why "Animal Rights" can go die in a fucking fire.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 08, 2013, 01:43:58 PM
QuoteMolyneux's definition of "law" is a good one: "Law is an opinion with a gun"; but this one is more succinct and accurate:

    Law is an excuse to do harm. (DBR)

Law, after all, does not wield the gun, and the ones who write it do not wield it themselves; they write it and codify it. Written, without any force to back it up, it is merely an excuse to do harm: to chase someone, invade their home, bind them, kidnap them, and lock them up for an extended period of time in a facility where they are likely to be killed, raped, or otherwise harmed by other inmates.

Many, if not most law and regulation is for "victimless" crimes or activities. If there is no victim, there can be no crime; "the state" is not a person, and convenient appeals to "society" fall on deaf ears. They are merely excuses to harm someone for peaceful activity. Most drug laws and traffic regulations fall into this category, as do licensure laws. (One might say, "But if an unlicensed doctor practiced on someone, he could do harm!"; but it is wrong to do harm to someone for mere distant potential harm they might do; it is a free individual's right to enter into the risks and contracts they choose.)

What of "good" laws, i.e., laws about actual harmful activities? Even then, the harm threatened frequently is unjust, i.e., does not call for restitution to the victim (insofar as is possible) and equal retribution to the criminal; instead, it demands arbitrary penalties, and any payments go to the state. So when we eliminate victimless laws/regulations, those with non-commensurate penalties, and repetition, we are left with very few, if any laws; I acknowledge it is possible that there may be one or two such laws, although I can't think of any.

One does not need arbitrary decreed "law" to know that killing is wrong and that the rightful penalty is to do the same to the killer (they may negotiate for something else with the survivors if they can reach agreement, such as payment or incarceration: that is up to the victim or heirs).

-- http://v.i4031.net/LawIsAnExcuseToDoHarm

Makes sense too.  How many cops (read: thugs in uniform) say, "It's the law ma'am/I don't make the law, I just enforce it."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 08, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/108/73
Because it made me laugh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 08, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 08, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/108/73
Because it made me laugh.

I created a new Pokemon: Mr. Ape (Mr. Mime + Primeape). I can cross one more thing off the bucket list.

btw, Myles Power comes out on top again:

[yt]3-XFeClWlWY[/yt]

seriously, I might as well post all his videos here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 08, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
"Your car is Japanese. Your Vodka is Russian. Your pizza is Italian. Your kebab is Turkish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your movies are American. Your Beers are German. Your shirt is Indian. Your oil is Saudi Arabian. Your electronics are Chinese. Your numbers -Arabic, your letters -Latin. And you complain that your neighbor is an immigrant?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 09, 2013, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 08, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
I guess it could provide an incentive to invest in some R&D. Provided of course there's sufficient demand for [thing].

Keep in mind the relevant formulation of the basic principle of developing a really lucrative invention:  See the demand for [thing] people don't even realize they want.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 09, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 09, 2013, 09:01:44 AM
Keep in mind the relevant formulation of the basic principle of developing a really lucrative invention:  See the demand for [thing] people don't even realize they want.

Exactly. It wasn't as if a bunch of people said, "Hey, Apple, how come you aren't making iPhones?" and Apple said, "Hey, that's a good idea!" They made the product first, and THEN people realized the benefit to their lives.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8545-Shaming-PC-Ports-Because-Why-Not
"You mean like when some random youtuber finds a scoop on Anita Sarkeesian that all the PAID game journalists somehow missed?  Yeah that would be pretty embarrassing."--Hawkeye on the above video.
As to the video itself, yeah, see, THIS is why open source is better.  Case closed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2013, 01:46:47 PM
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/3/6/1/223361.jpg?v=1)
From:  http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_721_17-obnoxious-figures-speech-translated_p2/?view=article
Glad it won. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20188_5-horribly-misguided-attempts-at-teaching-lessons-creatively.html
Yeah...Just.  No.
spoiler/teaser: #1 is a 10 year old kid being tazed by a cop on career day because he refused to wash his car.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 09, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z1FKsxE.png)

Awesome
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 10, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
[yt]Az-IZO0ToaU[/yt]

I didn't think hawkeye was desperate enough to take my ideas XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 11, 2013, 10:13:47 AM
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1463533_270010046484419_1882841031_n.jpg)

plus these comments i saw on Facebook.

QuoteIn the end, they both oppose power structures and that's all that matters. All this infighting between "anarchists" is so counter-productive. The lack of a real resistance movement of the masses is the main thing that is keeping us from progressing socially.


Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 11, 2013, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on December 10, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
[yt]Az-IZO0ToaU[/yt]

I didn't think hawkeye was desperate enough to take my ideas XD
Hawkeye, you could always try a capture card to record ganes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2013, 01:32:41 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20727_5-reasons-video-game-industry-about-to-crash.html
Yeah, OP, that tends to be the result of government granted monopoly status...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 11, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 11, 2013, 01:32:41 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20727_5-reasons-video-game-industry-about-to-crash.html
Yeah, OP, that tends to be the result of government granted monopoly status...

I'm sorry, who was granted this monopoly status?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2013, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: tnu on December 11, 2013, 10:13:47 AM
plus these comments i saw on Facebook.
https://mises.org/daily/2197
It's like Hawkeye always says, it all hinges on the question of how you handle dissenters.  What if I don't want to be a part of their commune or answer to their syndicate?
If the answer is force me to use them (like the Spanish "anarchists" during the 1930s) you've just invented government.
If the answer is let me be, you're an anarcho capitalist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 11, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
I'm sorry, who was granted this monopoly status?
The companies via copyright law.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2013, 02:50:36 PM
(http://www.leragecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/le-tv.png)
So true.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 11, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 11, 2013, 10:27:28 AM
Hawkeye, you could always try a capture card to record ganes.

Not familiar with them.  Do they work on PC games and more important, would they solve the problem?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 11, 2013, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 11, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
Not familiar with them.  Do they work on PC games and more important, would they solve the problem?
Not sure about pc, but they work for ps3 and xbox.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 11, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
I'm not sure it would help Hawkeye, Nilecroc. As I understand it, his problem is being able to publish, not record.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 11, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 11, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
I'm not sure it would help Hawkeye, Nilecroc. As I understand it, his problem is being able to publish, not record.

No, it's the recording.  I turn on fraps and the game chugs so bad it's unplayable.  This even happens with simple games like Don't Starve.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 12, 2013, 11:03:46 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 12, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 11, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
No, it's the recording.  I turn on fraps and the game chugs so bad it's unplayable.  This even happens with simple games like Don't Starve.

Is that even before you start recording your voice? I'm wondering if maybe using the microphone is taking too many clocks.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 12, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 12, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 12, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
Is that even before you start recording your voice? I'm wondering if maybe using the microphone is taking too many clocks.

Yes, the instant I hit the button, game drops to a frame a second.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 12, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 12, 2013, 11:20:30 PM
So D showing me the bit about Obama lying about the pre-existing conditions article that I posted in its own thread inspired me to post what is the best article on health care and the crisis of the costs of it that I've ever seen.

The following is not only fav and win, but also worth every second to read (source: http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html ):

Quote from: Roderick T. Long
How Government Solved the Health Care Crisis
Medical Insurance that Worked — Until Government "Fixed" It

Today, we are constantly being told, the United States faces a health care crisis. Medical costs are too high, and health insurance is out of reach of the poor. The cause of this crisis is never made very clear, but the cure is obvious to nearly everybody: government must step in to solve the problem.

Eighty years ago, Americans were also told that their nation was facing a health care crisis. Then, however, the complaint was that medical costs were too low, and that health insurance was too accessible. But in that era, too, government stepped forward to solve the problem. And boy, did it solve it!

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, one of the primary sources of health care and health insurance for the working poor in Britain, Australia, and the United States was the fraternal society. Fraternal societies (called "friendly societies" in Britain and Australia) were voluntary mutual-aid associations. Their descendants survive among us today in the form of the Shriners, Elks, Masons, and similar organizations, but these no longer play the central role in American life they formerly did. As recently as 1920, over one-quarter of all adult Americans were members of fraternal societies. (The figure was still higher in Britain and Australia.) Fraternal societies were particularly popular among blacks and immigrants. (Indeed, Teddy Roosevelt's famous attack on "hyphenated Americans" was motivated in part by hostility to the immigrants' fraternal societies; he and other Progressives sought to "Americanize" immigrants by making them dependent for support on the democratic state, rather than on their own independent ethnic communities.)

The principle behind the fraternal societies was simple. A group of working-class people would form an association (or join a local branch, or "lodge," of an existing association) and pay monthly fees into the association's treasury; individual members would then be able to draw on the pooled resources in time of need. The fraternal societies thus operated as a form of self-help insurance company.

Turn-of-the-century America offered a dizzying array of fraternal societies to choose from. Some catered to a particular ethnic or religious group; others did not. Many offered entertainment and social life to their members, or engaged in community service. Some "fraternal" societies were run entirely by and for women. The kinds of services from which members could choose often varied as well, though the most commonly offered were life insurance, disability insurance, and "lodge practice."

"Lodge practice" refers to an arrangement, reminiscent of today's HMOs, whereby a particular society or lodge would contract with a doctor to provide medical care to its members. The doctor received a regular salary on a retainer basis, rather than charging per item; members would pay a yearly fee and then call on the doctor's services as needed. If medical services were found unsatisfactory, the doctor would be penalized, and the contract might not be renewed. Lodge members reportedly enjoyed the degree of customer control this system afforded them. And the tendency to overuse the physician's services was kept in check by the fraternal society's own "self-policing"; lodge members who wanted to avoid future increases in premiums were motivated to make sure that their fellow members were not abusing the system.

Most remarkable was the low cost at which these medical services were provided. At the turn of the century, the average cost of "lodge practice" to an individual member was between one and two dollars a year. A day's wage would pay for a year's worth of medical care. By contrast, the average cost of medical service on the regular market was between one and two dollars per visit. Yet licensed physicians, particularly those who did not come from "big name" medical schools, competed vigorously for lodge contracts, perhaps because of the security they offered; and this competition continued to keep costs low.

The response of the medical establishment, both in America and in Britain, was one of outrage; the institution of lodge practice was denounced in harsh language and apocalyptic tones. Such low fees, many doctors charged, were bankrupting the medical profession. Moreover, many saw it as a blow to the dignity of the profession that trained physicians should be eagerly bidding for the chance to serve as the hirelings of lower-class tradesmen. It was particularly detestable that such uneducated and socially inferior people should be permitted to set fees for the physicians' services, or to sit in judgment on professionals to determine whether their services had been satisfactory. The government, they demanded, must do something.

And so it did. In Britain, the state put an end to the "evil" of lodge practice by bringing health care under political control. Physicians' fees would now be determined by panels of trained professionals (i.e., the physicians themselves) rather than by ignorant patients. State-financed medical care edged out lodge practice; those who were being forced to pay taxes for "free" health care whether they wanted it or not had little incentive to pay extra for health care through the fraternal societies, rather than using the government care they had already paid for.

In America, it took longer for the nation's health care system to be socialized, so the medical establishment had to achieve its ends more indirectly; but the essential result was the same. Medical societies like the AMA imposed sanctions on doctors who dared to sign lodge practice contracts. This might have been less effective if such medical societies had not had access to government power; but in fact, thanks to governmental grants of privilege, they controlled the medical licensure procedure, thus ensuring that those in their disfavor would be denied the right to practice medicine.

Such licensure laws also offered the medical establishment a less overt way of combating lodge practice. It was during this period that the AMA made the requirements for medical licensure far more strict than they had previously been. Their reason, they claimed, was to raise the quality of medical care. But the result was that the number of physicians fell, competition dwindled, and medical fees rose; the vast pool of physicians bidding for lodge practice contracts had been abolished. As with any market good, artifical restrictions on supply created higher prices — a particular hardship for the working-class members of fraternal societies.

The final death blow to lodge practice was struck by the fraternal societies themselves. The National Fraternal Congress — attempting, like the AMA, to reap the benefits of cartelization — lobbied for laws decreeing a legal minimum on the rates fraternal societies could charge. Unfortunately for the lobbyists, the lobbying effort was successful; the unintended consequence was that the minimum rates laws made the services of fraternal societies no longer competitive. Thus the National Fraternal Congress' lobbying efforts, rather than creating a formidable mutual-aid cartel, simply destroyed the fraternal societies' market niche — and with it the opportunity for low-cost health care for the working poor.

Why do we have a crisis in health care costs today? Because government "solved" the last one. D



Bibliogaphy

David T. Beito. "The 'Lodge Practice Evil' Reconsidered: Medical Care Through Fraternal Societies, 1900-1930." (unpublished)

David T. Beito. "Mutual Aid for Social Welfare: The Case of American Fraternal Societies." Critical Review, Vol. 4, no. 4 (Fall 1990).

David Green. Reinventing Civil Society: The Rediscovery of Welfare Without Politics. Institute of Economic Affairs, London, 1993.

David Green. Working Class Patients and the Medical Establishment: Self-Help in Britain from the Mid-Nineteenth Century to 1948. St. Martin's Press, New York, 1985.

David Green & Lawrence Cromwell. Mutual Aid or Welfare State: Australia's Friendly Societies. Allen & Unwin, Sydney, 1984.

P. Gosden. The Friendly Societies in England, 1815-1875. Manchester University Press, Manchester, 1961.

P. Gosden. Self-Help: Voluntary Associations in the 19th Century. Batsford Press, London, 1973.

Albert Loan. "Institutional Bases of the Spontaneous Order: Surety and Assurance." Humane Studies Review, Vol. 7, no. 1, 1991/92.

Leslie Siddeley. "The Rise and Fall of Fraternal Insurance Organizations." Humane Studies Review, Vol. 7, no. 2, 1992.

S. David Young. The Rule of Experts: Occupational Licensing in America. Cato Institute, Washington, 1987.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 13, 2013, 05:57:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 13, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 13, 2013, 08:04:28 PM
[yt]PIh6t0d_MuA[/yt]

The title is meant to be sarcastic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 13, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RwdH5DTKRas/S7SSj19TUKI/AAAAAAAACz0/jVL8UNZJX14/s1600/socialism_kills.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on December 13, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 12, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
Yes, the instant I hit the button, game drops to a frame a second.

It sounds like it cannot dump to disk fast enough.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 14, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 14, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
[yt]rCLdEj-LJH8[/yt]

A classic by Hawkeye.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 15, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: D on December 14, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
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I wonder how much money it cost to sue the bakery?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 15, 2013, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: D on December 13, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
[yt]qzKzu86Agg0[/yt]

Every day I see this guy, my respect for him goes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 15, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1470311_702622623105496_554600168_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2013, 01:34:57 AM
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The Fuck did I just watch?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on December 17, 2013, 02:52:43 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2013, 01:34:57 AM
[yt]tZfocSXozuw[/yt]

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 17, 2013, 03:08:33 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2013, 01:34:57 AM
[yt]tZfocSXozuw[/yt]

The Fuck did I just watch?

Am I the only one who found it funny?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 17, 2013, 03:08:33 AM
Am I the only one who found it funny?

Well, of course the Asian would think so. jk.

I thought it was funny, just what the fuck.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 17, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
[yt]jvW9WwDLCxg[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 17, 2013, 05:07:35 PM
http://crescotheeko.deviantart.com/journal/Billy-s-Rantz-How-IP-or-Copyrights-should-work-414021589#comments
Shameful.  So many realize what we have in terms of IP is extreme, yet don't want to strike the root.
It's like Hawkeye once said, who lobbied and continues to lobby for IP laws?  Upon finding the answer, the debate should end there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 17, 2013, 06:37:50 PM
Apparently a judged ruled against NSA spying. Hurray. Ket's see if they actually listen
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on December 17, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 17, 2013, 01:34:57 AM
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The Fuck did I just watch?

If we merge Fish-Head with a lightbulb, will we get Mr. Sparkle (http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Sparkle) or Homer Simpson?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 17, 2013, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Altimadark on December 17, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
If we merge Fish-Head with a lightbulb, will we get Mr. Sparkle (http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Sparkle) or Homer Simpson?

they're practically the same...appearance wise.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 18, 2013, 12:55:49 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/b2zWEBi

Good man.  Rest easy Edward, you've done more than your part.

And to the commenters, STFU about him being a "traitor."  You don't even know what that word means.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 18, 2013, 10:30:28 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-tech-industry-finally-ran-out-ideas-in-2013/

A better name for this would be, "5 signs the tech industry has become as over-regulated/controlled by government as the rest of them"
I read it and nothing sticks out as terribad in the rest of the article--except for the bit about Google as a monopoly.  Being 20x bigger than the next biggest competitor doesn't make them a monopoly (not in the literal sense--ONLY *one* seller/provider)), Wong.  No, having software patents on the shit that keeps them there is what would make them a monopoly.  Hell, even the examples he lists-- the music industry back in the day and Microsoft have that status because of government grants of monopoly via IP (esp: software patents).  And cable companies he talks of?  They're granted direct monopoly 'rights' via your local government.  Cheers!

Finally, the last bit in it reminded me of last night when D linked me an article of a guy who's video game footage video was flagged by the system and taken down--when it was footage of a game he made himself from scratch:  www.playeressence.com/jonathan-blow-gets-flagged-on-youtube-for-showing-footage-of-his-own-game/

And of course, YouTube's response to it:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg21731#msg21731
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 18, 2013, 02:13:30 PM
[yt]S3m3KlaZU80[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 18, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
Quoted For Truth:

(http://macromeme.com/cat/street-smart-dumb-people.jpg)

And ditto for clichés like "School of Hard Knocks" when said as if the OP is better/smarter than you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 18, 2013, 03:33:18 PM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/sports-religion-hometown.jpg)
Nice.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 18, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 18, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
Quoted For Truth:

(http://macromeme.com/cat/street-smart-dumb-people.jpg)

And ditto for clichés like "School of Hard Knocks" when said as if the make the OP is better/smarter than you.

Thank-you for that.

You know, my entire life (I'm 45 btw) I've been accused of being "book smart" but not having "street smarts" or "common sense".
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 18, 2013, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 18, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Thank-you for that.

You know, my entire life (I'm 45 btw) I've been accused of being "book smart" but not having "street smarts" or "common sense".
You're welcome, Dallen. :)

And yeah, I figured given the '68' at the end of your username. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 18, 2013, 06:56:13 PM
(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/bd/bdc9f6cbb2d0ea27dd1cf81434509887529e9417d2641417f626e6b365543e46.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 18, 2013, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 18, 2013, 06:56:13 PM
(http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1384990993521902_animate.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 18, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
Dear Feminists and Women,

How are you? It's me, redpillschool. Just checking up on things. Oh myself? I'm not doing so well. Another person just tried to shame me for enjoying my sexuality. I know, it's pretty bad that we live in a society that encourages this. According to you, only stupid women have sex with me. I wonder if you'd say that to their face? I mean, she was just enjoying her sexuality. Something you feminists appear to be in favor for. Why are you being discriminating?

I wanted to talk to you about objectification of women really quickly. It's upsetting because I love women and would hate to see anybody treat one like less than a person. But it seems feminists are doing a great job of this as of late.

Let's address the word object. Objects have no agency. They cannot act for themselves. They can only be acted upon. I pick up a coffee mug and put it in the dishwasher. It is an object and cannot put itself in the dishwasher.

Let's talk about agency, the opposite of being an object. This is important. I have agency. Tomorrow I can decide whether to go swimming, or read a book. It's my choice. I have an active role in my future. Nobody can tell me what I can and cannot do. I am an agent.

Feminists used to be pretty upset at the idea that anybody would objectify women. This was the concept that women have no agency, and instead do only what other people act upon them. If I want a woman in the kitchen cleaning my coffee mug, I put her there and she does it.

Well gosh that sounds terrible.

Feminism agrees! Women aren't objects. They should never be treated as such.

So feminism, I have to ask. Why do you keep acting like women are objects and not agents?

Feminists keep telling me I'm disgusting, that I'm wrong and evil.. because I trick women into sleeping with me.

But feminists- you were the one who told me women are people and make grown up decisions for themselves! Are you saying that women are incapable of saying no?

I just don't get it. I'm trying to understand. Why would you deny women agency?

I have never had sex with somebody who didn't want to have sex with me. I respected their wishes because they are people. They're people with personalities and agency.

But you criticise them saying they are objects- that they have no agency! That they are tricked and manipulated, but have no active role in deciding who to have sex with.

How could that possibly be? If I am handsome and they are attracted, is that a trick? Or do you think I lie and say I'm a doctor? Would that be enough to "trick" somebody into sex? What if I told you I was a millionaire and a doctor, and I help children? Are you "tricked" into sex with me yet?

You're skeptical. You don't think I'm a doctor and millionaire. I'm betting you just decided reading this letter that you don't think you'd have sex with me. But.. if you made that decision.. as an adult person with agency...

...why would you deny other women the right to make the same decision?

Do you think most women are incapable of critical thought? Do you truly believe that if I lie about being a doctor that somehow absolves a woman of her right to choose, and her responsibility to verify? I wouldn't lie about being a doctor, it doesn't even make sense! Women wouldn't have sex with me because I'm rich- they're just not that shallow. I don't understand why you'd assume women are so simple that we can just use some magic cheat code on women and get them in the sack! They're people!

Feminists, I don't get why you objectify women. It just seems wrong. It's the 21st century, and I feel like you're behind the times. An adult woman can make decisions for herself, we don't need some big bad woman-group telling the little woman she can't make decisions. That objectification seems like something we should push against. We should start a group that represents the interest of women.

Because feminism, you objectify women, and they're people. So stop.

Love,

Red Pill School
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1c9ngz/only_white_knights_women_and_feminists_objectify/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 19, 2013, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: T dog on December 18, 2013, 06:18:59 PM
You're welcome, Dallen. :)

And yeah, I figured given the '68' at the end of your username. :P

Cool, dallen and I are time-twins!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 19, 2013, 06:58:54 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 18, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Thank-you for that.

You know, my entire life (I'm 45 btw) I've been accused of being "book smart" but not having "street smarts" or "common sense".

I even got that from teachers: I have book sense, but no common sense. Maybe because common sense doesn't actually exist? I've long since relegated the idea of "common sense" on the bin below Jung's collective unconscious.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 19, 2013, 08:54:48 AM
[yt]2OvL1_89QDs[/yt]

One of Ayn Rand's more lucid moments.

Especially closer to the end (7:55 ish in):  "The next time you encounter one of those public spirited dreamers who tells you rancorously that some very desirable goals cannot be achieved without everybody's participation, tell him if he cannot obtain everybody's voluntary participation his goals jolly well better remain unachieved, because human lives are not his to dispose of." (paraphrased last bit for clarity)

"And if you wish, give him the following example of the ideals he advocates.  It is medically possible to take the corneas of a man's eyes immediately after his death and transplant them to the eyes of a living man who is blind; thus restoring his sight (in certain types of blindness).  Now according to collectivized ethics [read: statist ethics], this poses a social problem.  Should we wait until a man's death to cut out his eyes when other men need them?  Should we regard everyone's eyes as public property and divise a 'fair' method of distribution?  Would you advocate cutting out a living man's eye and giving it to a blind man so as to equalize them?  No?  Then don't struggle any further with questions about public projects in a free society."

To which I would have added or said, "and would you cut out your own eye and give it to a blind man to equalize yourselves?"  Practice what you preach, as they say. ^_^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 19, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
[yt]HCXx5Eb4FDc[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 19, 2013, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on December 19, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
[yt]HCXx5Eb4FDc[/yt]

(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/tumblr_lo2zqb6h5P1qzsyre.gif)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 19, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on December 19, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
[yt]HCXx5Eb4FDc[/yt]
The comments on this video are funny.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 19, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1458700_630821600311755_862441379_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 19, 2013, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: D on December 19, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1458700_630821600311755_862441379_n.jpg)
Heh.  Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 20, 2013, 06:49:00 AM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 18, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
Dear Feminists and Women,

How are you? It's me, redpillschool. Just checking up on things. Oh myself? I'm not doing so well. Another person just tried to shame me for enjoying my sexuality. I know, it's pretty bad that we live in a society that encourages this. According to you, only stupid women have sex with me. I wonder if you'd say that to their face? I mean, she was just enjoying her sexuality. Something you feminists appear to be in favor for. Why are you being discriminating?

I wanted to talk to you about objectification of women really quickly. It's upsetting because I love women and would hate to see anybody treat one like less than a person. But it seems feminists are doing a great job of this as of late.

Let's address the word object. Objects have no agency. They cannot act for themselves. They can only be acted upon. I pick up a coffee mug and put it in the dishwasher. It is an object and cannot put itself in the dishwasher.

Let's talk about agency, the opposite of being an object. This is important. I have agency. Tomorrow I can decide whether to go swimming, or read a book. It's my choice. I have an active role in my future. Nobody can tell me what I can and cannot do. I am an agent.

Feminists used to be pretty upset at the idea that anybody would objectify women. This was the concept that women have no agency, and instead do only what other people act upon them. If I want a woman in the kitchen cleaning my coffee mug, I put her there and she does it.

Well gosh that sounds terrible.

Feminism agrees! Women aren't objects. They should never be treated as such.

So feminism, I have to ask. Why do you keep acting like women are objects and not agents?

Feminists keep telling me I'm disgusting, that I'm wrong and evil.. because I trick women into sleeping with me.

But feminists- you were the one who told me women are people and make grown up decisions for themselves! Are you saying that women are incapable of saying no?

I just don't get it. I'm trying to understand. Why would you deny women agency?

I have never had sex with somebody who didn't want to have sex with me. I respected their wishes because they are people. They're people with personalities and agency.

But you criticise them saying they are objects- that they have no agency! That they are tricked and manipulated, but have no active role in deciding who to have sex with.

How could that possibly be? If I am handsome and they are attracted, is that a trick? Or do you think I lie and say I'm a doctor? Would that be enough to "trick" somebody into sex? What if I told you I was a millionaire and a doctor, and I help children? Are you "tricked" into sex with me yet?

You're skeptical. You don't think I'm a doctor and millionaire. I'm betting you just decided reading this letter that you don't think you'd have sex with me. But.. if you made that decision.. as an adult person with agency...

...why would you deny other women the right to make the same decision?

Do you think most women are incapable of critical thought? Do you truly believe that if I lie about being a doctor that somehow absolves a woman of her right to choose, and her responsibility to verify? I wouldn't lie about being a doctor, it doesn't even make sense! Women wouldn't have sex with me because I'm rich- they're just not that shallow. I don't understand why you'd assume women are so simple that we can just use some magic cheat code on women and get them in the sack! They're people!

Feminists, I don't get why you objectify women. It just seems wrong. It's the 21st century, and I feel like you're behind the times. An adult woman can make decisions for herself, we don't need some big bad woman-group telling the little woman she can't make decisions. That objectification seems like something we should push against. We should start a group that represents the interest of women.

Because feminism, you objectify women, and they're people. So stop.

Love,

Red Pill School
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1c9ngz/only_white_knights_women_and_feminists_objectify/

And the top rated comment too:

"Being hit on by a guy she's attracted to = hot

Being hit on by a guy she's not attracted to = objectification

Women calling men "eye-candy" = sexually liberated

Men calling women "eye-candy" = sexually objectifying

Women participating in hook-up culture = you go gurl!!!

Men participating in hook-up culture = objectifying asshole!!

Porn for women = empowering

Porn for men = objectifying
"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 20, 2013, 07:37:55 AM
"Be it gods or gov, you need only ask one question when they claim the benevolence of their beliefs: What is the penalty for apostasy?

Proud to be an apostate of the state." -- Lord T Hawkeye's DA signature.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 20, 2013, 09:29:01 AM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/1486835_10152136618299532_599199417_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 20, 2013, 07:35:28 PM
[yt]_KqqRPvM_Sw[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 21, 2013, 09:09:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhgGixOLn_Q

Add this to your christmas carol list Mr Bogosity!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2013, 08:16:25 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-tsa-sucks-a-security-experts-perspective/
Damn, didn't expect to see this from cracked.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2013, 01:49:04 PM
"The worst part of anything is its fans."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 22, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
(http://americanhumanist.org/system/storage/29/1394/4328365089_f7448c15ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 22, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
"Nothing beats a huge stick!"--subject of a spam e-mail I just deleted.  Made my fucking day.  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 23, 2013, 12:02:45 AM
seriously, I might as well start posting all of Myles Power's videos  here as they come:

[yt]4Fch0DL1ulY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 23, 2013, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: T dog on December 22, 2013, 08:16:25 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-tsa-sucks-a-security-experts-perspective/
Damn, didn't expect to see this from cracked.

You never saw these articles?
http://www.cracked.com/article_20724_5-laws-that-made-sense-paper-and-disasters-in-reality.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20556_5-animal-rights-campaigns-that-managed-to-screw-over-animals.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 23, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/linkara-riffs/37646-linkara-riffs-a-word-to-the-wives

Making fun of old sexist house wive videos. It's kind of more insulting to men.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on December 23, 2013, 08:27:09 AM
You never saw these articles?
http://www.cracked.com/article_20724_5-laws-that-made-sense-paper-and-disasters-in-reality.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20556_5-animal-rights-campaigns-that-managed-to-screw-over-animals.html

They missed one of the other, rather OBVIOUS problems with all forms of gun buy backs/amnesties that involve rapidly destroying the guns:  It's the ideal way for criminals to get rid of a gun that they've used in a crime in a way that's connectable back to the gun (usually by ballistics tests).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2013, 11:05:34 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on December 23, 2013, 08:27:09 AM
You never saw these articles?
http://www.cracked.com/article_20724_5-laws-that-made-sense-paper-and-disasters-in-reality.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20556_5-animal-rights-campaigns-that-managed-to-screw-over-animals.html
Yes, I have.  But 1) I was so burned out I forgot about them, and 2) I forgot that cracked has been getting people to talk about what their jobs are really like to combat Hollywood bullshit.  And besides, those kind of articles from them seem kinda rare. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2013, 11:20:36 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20731_5-amazing-pieces-good-news-nobody-reporting.html

If right, I think this deserves a post here. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 23, 2013, 11:53:16 AM
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/linkara-riffs/38409-linkara-riffs-what-about-school-spirit

You must surrender yourself to school spirit for the glory of bob corby.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 23, 2013, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: a wiseass"One Man's Junk Is Another Man's Treasure"......takes on a whole new meaning when yer gay! ;)

Fav quote for making me laugh.  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 25, 2013, 04:18:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/2c3f70d8386856823ed5f7cc83eab973/tumblr_my833k7I0n1t2kyqeo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
[yt]aHFJQAP8oEw[/yt]

Well played Stef. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 26, 2013, 09:18:12 PM
[yt]07AKAdyE3Lg&list=PLA3wwk2xV3UiDk5InXmmu33_ny3X0jLVZ[/yt]

What I like about this episode is that when they explain subsidies they have teller pointing a gun at penn when he snatches his money out of his pocket. Way to show the gun in the room.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on December 26, 2013, 10:53:06 PM
"The human race. For such an intelligent lot you aren't half susceptible. Give anyone a chance to take control and you submit. Sometimes I think you like it. Easy life."

Shane should know who said this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 26, 2013, 10:53:06 PM
"The human race. For such an intelligent lot you aren't half susceptible. Give anyone a chance to take control and you submit. Sometimes I think you like it. Easy life."

Shane should know who said this.
*One Google Search Later*  The Doctor. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 04, 2013, 06:39:20 PM
Seems to me a lot of that would be "victim blaming" if the sexes were reversed...
How so?

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on December 04, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
And yet "There are no good men" still gets a pass...
Care to elaborate?

I waited this long to ask you both because I figured I'd get it after this long.  I was wrong. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: T dog on December 26, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/2c3f70d8386856823ed5f7cc83eab973/tumblr_my833k7I0n1t2kyqeo1_1280.jpg)
This was passed like 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 27, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
This was passed like 2 years ago.

There's an NDAA every year. Since it's basically a must-pass bill, Congress usually takes the opportunity to stick horrible riders into it. The 2013 NDAA (covering fiscal year 2014) was just signed into law by the president yesterday. He loves this one because it will "allow" him to close Gitmo by doing the same thing within the US.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 27, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 27, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
How so?
Care to elaborate?

I waited this long to ask you both because I figured I'd get it after this long.  I was wrong. :(

The first one is in reference to the fact that if a woman were asking a man similar questions, there wouldn't be a problem.

The second one is because, in any other situation, when you generalize a group of people, you get called on it. Like if you start an argument with "Black people are...", you never finish your sentence because your challenged on that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 27, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
The first one is in reference to the fact that if a woman were asking a man similar questions, there wouldn't be a problem.

The second one is because, in any other situation, when you generalize a group of people, you get called on it. Like if you start an argument with "Black people are...", you never finish your sentence because your challenged on that.
Thanks Dallen. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
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If he posted that this year, I'd nominate him for a silver cluon.

Btw, I heard from a friend that (ironically) after refusing Russia's help with it, the Fukushima reactor(s) is(are) STILL at risk of exploding.  Is that true?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 27, 2013, 09:08:58 PM
So the bit with BTF in fail quotes https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg21975#msg21975 inspired me to share this article that Hawkeye shared with me:

http://falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/
Very interesting points to say the least.  Here's the abstract to act as a sample:

"ABSTRACT
This article argues that our current laws on the topic are counterproductive, because they protect child molesters instead of bringing them to justice, they criminalize a generation of normally-behaving teenagers which diverts valuable police resources from the criminals we should be going after, and they lead to censorship and electronic book burning as well as unacceptable collateral damage to innocent families. Child abuse as such is not condoned by anybody, and this article argues that current laws are counterproductive in preventing and prosecuting it."

Go read.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on December 27, 2013, 10:03:11 PM
[yt]0PsxvGzwBfA[/yt]

[yt]mOqADhSW2gY[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2013, 07:53:22 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-words-youre-confusing-with-other-words/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 28, 2013, 08:12:08 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 27, 2013, 10:03:11 PM
[yt]0PsxvGzwBfA[/yt]

[yt]mOqADhSW2gY[/yt]

I stopped watching when I got to the nudity=porn bogosity. The ONLY reason people are titillated (no pun intended) by that imagery is BECAUSE of the very same prudish attitudes he takes when talking about women going top-free or images in sex education books.

Sorry, but FAIL.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2013, 08:29:59 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 28, 2013, 08:12:08 AM
I stopped watching when I got to the nudity=porn bogosity. The ONLY reason people are titillated (no pun intended) by that imagery is BECAUSE of the very same prudish attitudes he takes when talking about women going top-free or images in sex education books.

Sorry, but FAIL.
Reminds me of this:

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(Source:  http://archive.freecapitalists.org/forums/t/8551.aspx?PageIndex=3 )
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 28, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
Kinda reminds me of this episode

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2013, 11:33:54 PM
So looking back at old fail quotes, I found this post: https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg5354#msg5354 and thought of some other things.

Makes me wonder if he'd say that to the abolitionists.  Or to the folks who via physics showed that yes, heavier than air aircraft is possible?  Kinda comes off as a slight rehashing of Salon's infamous "question that libertarians can't answer."  Yeah, we can.  You just don't like the answer.

But this brings me to le win quote shared by Lord T Hawkeye by barelylegal:  "Some people say what I'm hoping for is no different than the communists hoping for 'true' communism to come about.*  I think the main difference is I'm not asking people to invest in some wealth sharing scheme and eat the losses if it doesn't work out.  I'm just asking people to do what they've always done in their everyday lives, just apply it consistently"
*nevermind the fallacy of acting like two opposite things are the same thing that many pillocks accept as truth.
And yeah, if the person can't understand--even after being repeatedly explained that yes, anarchy is merely the way most of us already live our lives--voluntarily then he isn't in a position to even be debating this.  Just like the person using the original sin argument implicitly admitting they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, or are just special pleading.  And more often than not, both.

And while I'm at it, we *do* have a method.  It's called better parenting and educating/talking to people; And the other basic strategy: The problem right now is conformity is too comfortable.  make it uncomfortable.  Basically, trying to change the Zeitgeist, just like the abolition movement did in the 1800s and even 1700s did.

I'm reminded of this piece of epic win from the Mises Institute:  https://mises.org/daily/5076

Quote from: Robert HiggsTen Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery

[This article originally appeared in the Freeman, December 2009.]

Slavery existed for thousands of years, in all sorts of societies and all parts of the world. To imagine human social life without it required an extraordinary effort. Yet, from time to time, eccentrics emerged to oppose it, most of them arguing that slavery is a moral monstrosity and therefore people should get rid of it. Such advocates generally elicited reactions ranging from gentle amusement to harsh scorn and even violent assault.

When people bothered to give reasons for opposing the proposed abolition, they advanced various ideas. Here are ten such ideas I have encountered in my reading.

1.  Slavery is natural. People differ, and we must expect that those who are superior in a certain way — for example, in intelligence, morality, knowledge, technological prowess, or capacity for fighting — will make themselves the masters of those who are inferior in this regard. Abraham Lincoln expressed this idea in one of his famous 1858 debates with Senator Stephen Douglas:

QuoteThere is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

2.  Slavery has always existed. This reason exemplifies the logical fallacy argumentum ad antiquitatem (the argument to antiquity or tradition). Nevertheless, it often persuaded people, especially those of conservative bent. Even nonconservatives might give it weight on the quasi-Hayekian ground that although we do not understand why a social institution persists, its persistence may nonetheless be well grounded in a logic we have yet to understand.

3.  Every society on earth has slavery. The unspoken corollary is that every society must have slavery. The pervasiveness of an institution seems to many people to constitute compelling proof of its necessity. Perhaps, as one variant maintains, every society has slavery because certain kinds of work are so difficult or degrading that no free person will do them, and therefore unless we have slaves to do these jobs, they will not get done. Someone, as the saying went in the Old South, has to be the mud sill, and free people will not tolerate serving in this capacity.

4.  The slaves are not capable of taking care of themselves. This idea was popular in the United States in the late 18th and early 19th centuries among people, such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who regarded slavery as morally reprehensible yet continued to hold slaves and to obtain personal services from them and income from the products these "servants" (as they preferred to call them) were compelled to produce. It would be cruel to set free people who would then, at best, fall into destitution and suffering.

5.  Without masters, the slaves will die off. This idea is the preceding one pushed to its extreme. Even after slavery was abolished in the United States in 1865, many people continued to voice this idea. Northern journalists traveling in the South immediately after the war reported that, indeed, the blacks were in the process of becoming extinct because of their high death rate, low birth rate, and miserable economic condition. Sad but true, some observers declared, the freed people really were too incompetent, lazy, or immoral to behave in ways consistent with their own group survival. (See my 1977 book Competition and Coercion: Blacks in the American Economy, 1865–1914.)

6.  Where the common people are free, they are even worse off than slaves. This argument became popular in the South in the decades before the War between the States. Its leading exponent was the proslavery writer George Fitzhugh, whose book titles speak for themselves: Sociology for the South, or, the Failure of Free Society (1854) and Cannibals All!, or, Slaves Without Masters (1857). Fitzhugh seems to have taken many of his ideas from the reactionary, racist, Scottish writer Thomas Carlyle. The expression "wage slave" still echoes this antebellum outlook. True to his sociological theories, Fitzhugh wanted to extend slavery in the United States to working-class white people, for their own good!

7.  Getting rid of slavery would occasion great bloodshed and other evils. In the United States many people assumed that the slaveholders would never permit the termination of the slave system without an all-out fight to preserve it. Sure enough, when the Confederacy and the Union went to war — set aside that the immediate issue was not the abolition of slavery but the secession of eleven Southern states — great bloodshed and other evils did ensue. These tragic events seemed, in many people's minds, to validate the reason they had given for opposing abolition. (They evidently overlooked that, except in Haiti, slavery was abolished everywhere else in the Western Hemisphere without large-scale violence.)

8.  Without slavery the former slaves would run amuck, stealing, raping, killing, and generally causing mayhem. Preservation of social order therefore rules out the abolition of slavery. Southerners lived in dread of slave uprisings. Northerners in the mid-19th century found the situation in their own region already sufficiently intolerable, owing to the massive influx of drunken, brawling Irishmen into the country in the 1840s and 1850s. Throwing free blacks, whom the Irish generally disliked, into the mix would well-nigh guarantee social chaos.

9.  Trying to get rid of slavery is foolishly utopian and impractical; only a fuzzy-headed dreamer would advance such a cockamamie proposal. Serious people cannot afford to waste their time considering such farfetched ideas.

10.  Forget abolition. A far better plan is to keep the slaves sufficiently well fed, clothed, housed, and occasionally entertained and to take their minds off their exploitation by encouraging them to focus on the better life that awaits them in the hereafter. We cannot expect fairness or justice in this life, but all of us, including the slaves, can aspire to a life of ease and joy in Paradise.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 29, 2013, 12:28:34 AM
Quote from: T dogThe problem right now is conformity is too comfortable.  make it uncomfortable

That might be more difficult as it sounds, as we are essentially pack animals, and basically conform=survive. It is easier in actuality to change what the conformity is to, than to change conformity. That's what the abolitionist and civil rights movement actually did (or are doing depending on what specifically is being talked about).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 29, 2013, 12:28:34 AM
That might be more difficult as it sounds, as we are essentially pack animals, and basically conform=survive. It is easier in actuality to change what the conformity is to, than to change conformity. That's what the abolitionist and civil rights movement actually did (or are doing depending on what specifically is being talked about).
That's actually what I meant.  Sorry for not being more clear.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2013, 01:19:41 PM
"There was a bill proposed, it was only a page long and all it said was that congress would be subject to every law they passed.
It was shot down immediately.

The only flaw in politics is that it exists."--Lord T Hawkeye
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 29, 2013, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: T dog on December 29, 2013, 01:19:41 PM
"There was a bill proposed, it was only a page long and all it said was that congress would be subject to every law they passed.
It was shot down immediately.

The only flaw in politics is that it exists."--Lord T Hawkeye

I wonder what it will be like if they literally said out loud that they were exempt from the laws against murder? If they did not sugarcoat it with words like war and other bullshit?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on December 29, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 29, 2013, 01:23:49 PM
I wonder what it will be like if they literally said out loud that they were exempt from the laws against murder? If they did not sugarcoat it with words like war and other bullshit?

Well, first every fifth grader in the country, realizing that congressional immunity does not apply to class A felonies, will roll on the floor laughing. Then every talk show host will be having "how stupid can they be shows", then a bunch of congressmen will be looking for new jobs.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 03, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
"The agnostic/atheist debate is the equivalent of the minarchist/anarchist debate: Self congratulating semantical circle jerks full of obnoxious verbosity that is a complete waste of time." —The Skeptical Libertarian
Reminds me of a vid you posted before about libertarians arguing among each other a bit...too much.  Something like we agree with 99% of things, but spend 99% of our time arguing about the 1% we disagree with.
I thought this might have to do with two things.  1) You don't get into liberty (or atheism/skepticism for that matter. :P) without some serious heated arguments.  So the people drawn to it (or at least staying in it) are going to be the ones who love a good argument/debate.  2)  Maybe many of us are aware (if only on the subconscience level) that those 1% of things we do argue about/disagree with really do matter.  I mean, just look at the USA government.  It started so small--like 99% or so free.  Yet the state grew.  And now it's the biggest government in the history of the world.  I think those of us that are that...hair splitty...just don't want to see something like this happen yet again.

Also:  You mean like that comment itself is?  Sounds like he's just butthurt because a bunch of anarcho-capitalists called him out on his bs of minimal force/initiation of force and equivocating it with self defense, much like the socialists conflate state healthcare to ALL healthcare.  Our description/definition IS descriptive.  Name me one government in the history of the world that wasn't a monopoly on the INITIATION of force.  Folks, the USA was the acid test.  You had the smallest, most restricted government ever with a constitution that was CLEAR AS DAY, and bam, in a few hundred years it's now the biggest government in world history. Minarchy is a failure.  Deal with it.  We tried 'holding them in check/accountable.' It was called the Whiskey Rebellion.  Go look up how well that worked out.  Hell, not like Hawkeye didn't address all these excuses.  I mean, really? "You know what the difference between a descriptive and prescriptive claim is right?" Um, yes, I do.  Do you? Bit hypocritical when you yourself are always making moral lambasting in your video comments "LIAR!" "YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE POOR/BUSINESS OWNERS OR THEIR CHILDREN!" etc; or about the morality of state violence to tar and feather/call/single out the statists in the comments. I mean, come on!  If you are without belief in the morality/legitimacy/necessity of the state--an institution that is by every DESCRIPTIVE honest definition is just institutionalized initiation of force--you are an anarcho-capitalist.  Otherwise, you're just another statist tool.  Man up and admit it.
Similar logic with the agnostics, really. If believe in the existence of a deity or deities, you are a theist.  If you don't, you are an atheist and seriously need to man up, grow a pair and admit it.  Just like the liberals who defend socialized healthcare to which you said, "Because it IS socialism! I'm getting sick and tired of these people crying like we're name-calling.  If that's what your for, man up and defend socialism." in that one healthcare video of yours.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on December 29, 2013, 07:40:22 PM
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304387805000738

This is a fail for making me pay 40$ to view 1 fucking article.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 29, 2013, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on December 29, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
Well, first every fifth grader in the country, realizing that congressional immunity does not apply to class A felonies, will roll on the floor laughing. Then every talk show host will be having "how stupid can they be shows", then a bunch of congressmen will be looking for new jobs.

To be specific, it does not apply to felonies, any crime of violence, or treason, and it only applies when Congress is sitting anyway.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2013, 10:11:10 PM
"This is what I hate about you new atheists.  You support an authoritarian, paternalistic nanny state and yet you bitch and complain that your rights are being violated because a nativity scene is put up in the city park come Christmas time."--Raymond Dundas being a boss.

This one's for you, BlameThe1st.  And for those of us who've had to deal with the statheists around:

"So yeah, if there's anything *this* little debaucle reminded me is that yes, a nation of fundamentalist Christians (or of any religion) who are all an-caps would be infinitely superior and preferable to an entire nation of boot licking statheists."--Me, referring to the freethoughtblog bullshit a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 30, 2013, 02:19:53 AM
Quote from: T dog on December 29, 2013, 10:11:10 PM
"This is what I hate about you new atheists.  You support an authoritarian, paternalistic nanny state and yet you bitch and complain that your rights are being violated because a nativity scene is put up in the city park come Christmas time."--Raymond Dundas being a boss.

This one's for you, BlameThe1st.  And for those of us who've had to deal with the statheists around:

"So yeah, if there's anything *this* little debaucle reminded me is that yes, a nation of fundamentalist Christians (or of any religion) who are all an-caps would be infinitely superior and preferable to an entire nation of boot licking statheists."--Me, referring to the freethoughtblog bullshit a few hours ago.

That last statement.

My reaction

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 30, 2013, 10:17:38 AM
title:  Le Internet Providers
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 30, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
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Fucking win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 30, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 30, 2013, 06:59:32 PM
http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html
Fucking classic. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on December 31, 2013, 12:22:59 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 01, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 01, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/01/26/seize-the-white-knob/

Very well put, Dale. :)
Same for the next ones right after it at least up until, "Who Will Build the Slave Roads?" and beyond.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 01, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
Thanx, Tdog, that was enlightening.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 01, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
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The panarchist in me absolutely loves this
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 01, 2014, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: tnu on January 01, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
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The panarchist in me absolutely loves this

Awesome!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 02, 2014, 08:41:09 AM
Quote from: tnu on January 01, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
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The panarchist in me absolutely loves this
Reminds me of a (win) quote from Militant-Mike1 on OkCupid:
"(Don't message me if: ) you support 'Anarchist' Communism. That is a oxymoron if there has even been one. So tell me, how you plan on smashing a naturally arising system like Capitalism, without a massive state? OkCupid's political quiz recognizes the only true anarchy as Anarcho-Capitalism. I never see anyone besides fellow Market Anarchists falling on the 'Anarchist' section, you people always land down on socialist, where you statist swines belong.

I would like to make clear, I have no problem whatsoever with any VOLUNTARY, socialism or communism. As long as everyone consents, it is fine with me."--le source:  http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Militant-Mike1 specificially the "You should message me if" section.

So yeah.  That and capitalism and anarchy ARE the same thing--voluntaryism.   And by implying that capitalism is itself a system imposed like socialism in an effort at congeniality, it kinda comes off as a fail to me.
But to be fair, I would just call myself simply an "Anarchist" if I didn't need to differentiate between anarcho communists (https://mises.org/daily/2197) (who, in my experience tend to defend state action like UHC and progressive taxation) and, even more infuriating the "smashes windows and loots" type as anarchism is usually and falsely stereotyped. >.<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 02, 2014, 10:07:04 AM
I read this on a church billboard on my way home:

"Prayer: The only call the government can't hear"


Well so long as your cell phone ain't on your person I say amen to that!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 02, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
I miss Harry...

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 02, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 02, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
I miss Harry...

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You and me, both. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 02, 2014, 03:28:24 PM
As an anarchist, I really have trouble ordering things online, I find the "submit" button highly offensive...

-stefan molyneux
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 02, 2014, 03:37:38 PM
http://www.policymic.com/articles/77877/13-problems-only-libertarians-will-understand-in-gifs
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 02, 2014, 08:57:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 02, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
It's not really a quote because it's mostly instrumental, but fuck it.

Maggot Brain: One of the most chill, yet powerful instrumentals I've ever heard.

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Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time
For y'all have knocked her up
I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe
I was not offended for I knew I had to rise above it all
Or drown in my own shit

Come on Maggot Brain
Go on Maggot Brain
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 03, 2014, 05:19:03 AM
QuoteWhat I dislike the most about radical feminism is that it tries so hard to 'fight' .. masculism? It is like they do not know enough history to stop repeating it.

Fighting something validates it.

Real feminists live as they want to live, with no regard to these supposed problems. They invalidate the idea of being oppressed by not living under oppression. I have the utmost respect for actual feminists.

True oppression is criminalized: we punish people who commit rape. These people are not oppressed, unless they have actually been raped in which case I hope you got to castrate him for it.

Merely walking around in public and assuming men are raping you in their minds is not their problem, it is your problem, in your head.

Women have not been the minority gender in the USA since WWII. Women are the majority. Grow up and start acting like it if you feel so oppressed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 03, 2014, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: tnu on January 03, 2014, 05:19:03 AM

Okay, major fail in that--"Fighting something validates it"  Does that mean when the abolitionists fought slavery they validated it?  Or when we fight the state's illusions of being moral that we validate those things?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 03, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
http://themetapicture.com/hell-explained-by-an-engineer-cant-say-i-didnt-expect-that/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 03, 2014, 04:24:39 PM
"People who believe in evolution in biology often believe in creationism in government. In other words, they believe that the universe and all the creatures in it could have evolved spontaneously, but that the economy is too complicated to operate without being directed by politicians." - Thomas Sowell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 03, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
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the young turk thought soapy water was radioactive snow xD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 03, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 03, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on January 03, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
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the God-damn Batman ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 03, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 04, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20023_5-illegal-drugs-with-surprisingly-wholesome-medical-uses.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20561_5-myths-about-illegal-drugs-you-probably-believe.html
Very interesting, cracked.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 07, 2014, 07:27:11 AM
http://intellihub.com/2014/01/03/government-free-city-of-max-threatens-u-s-governments-dominance/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2014, 11:47:02 AM
https://mises.org/daily/1189
Mises on War.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 07, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
From the Facebook page "The Art of Not Being Governed"

QuoteAnComs - do you oppose voluntary BDSM between consenting adults? I mean, with the hierachy and all...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 07, 2014, 03:20:57 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=233392193451366&set=a.173798099410776.6491.172932662830653&type=1&theater&notif_t=photo_comment
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2014, 07:00:53 PM
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So first half through and I was surprised how close my answer was with the breast cancer example.  I guessed 7.2%.  The reason being it seemed circular--at least the way it was phrased--"What's the chance she really does have breast cancer?" "Oh, by the way, here's the chance she's going to have breast cancer." (yes, I know that was technically the prior probability--at least I do now, but you gotta admit, that's how it came off.)  So I just multiplied 0.8% by 0.9 (probability of true positive)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 07, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: T dog on January 07, 2014, 07:00:53 PM
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So first half through and I was surprised how close my answer was with the breast cancer example.  I guessed 8%.  The reason being it seemed circular--at least the way it was phrased--"What's the chance she really does have breast cancer?" "Oh, by the way, here's the chance she's going to have breast cancer." (yes, I know that was technically the prior probability--at least I do now, but you gotta admit, that's how it came off.)

Hmmm...right for the wrong reason. Interesting. I wonder how many of the doctors in the survey thought that way and accidentally got close? That number might be higher than 90%!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2014, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 07, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Hmmm...right for the wrong reason. Interesting. I wonder how many of the doctors in the survey thought that way and accidentally got close? That number might be higher than 90%!
*edit* I actually guessed 7.2%.  Blah. I had a day from hell today. @_@  So I'm surprised I was still as close as I was.
Anyways, very fascinating video.  Hell, I'm about 15 minutes in and it's been just awesome.  And yeah, I swear my probability education was roughly on par with your algebra education in High School.  I've taken two stats classes and not once did we get into this stuff (though it does seem a bit advanced, mathwise--given the huge Bayesian equation--for beginners, but still!) or even statistical significance.

And yes, one of your best videos yet.  If not *the* best.  And this is coming from a guy who's seen pretty much all of your YouTube videos.

It's such a shame that probability theory isn't emphasized more in schools over, say, Algebra and Calculus.  Hell, even the AP Statistics courses are usually so basic and easy, most students think of it as a slack class.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 07, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
It seems to me that you would have to have a good deal of prior knowledge of whatever the topic happened to be to use it effectively. I mean, I guess you could eliminate the ridiculous, but it would be hard to reach a conclusion without further data.

Let IDK=I have no clue.

P1=D(idk)/H ~P0=D(idk)/H
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: T dog on January 07, 2014, 07:00:53 PM
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Well, actually, regarding e^x = 0.  Try this:  x = negative infinity.  Or at least limit(e^x) as x approaches negative infinity) = 0.
Even my TI 98 Titanium agrees when in exact mode for both cases.
Though ln(x) = -infinity doesn't work when x = 0, I simply take the limit as x approaches zero from the right and it works.
A minor point, but figured it was worth a mention.

Finally, the bit of you saying you never really got the hang of algebra would explain your confusion with Newton's Second Law with MasterGhostKnight when I brought up the equation from Wikipedia.  Guess it's just my own bias as my two year degree with in mechanical engineering, so I've used that equation (sum of the forces = 0 and sum of the forces = ma) to find the forces in static systems a LOT of times.  Not once did we talk about it having anything to do with temperature or whatever.  We did talk about internal forces, but saying the stuff you did reminds me of my mom talking about how the theory of relativity by Einstein is really just like when people traveling fast in an airplane feel like time is traveling differently because they are stressed.  Same with you confusing exponential and 1/r^2 relationships while accusing the people calling you out on it pedantic; while bitching about various other pedantic points in the comments of other videos mentioned above. :\

I've always been one of, if not the, best at physics and math I know.  So I'd like to think I know my shit; even if not as good as I could be.   Even if it doesn't exactly agree with the weird conceptual stuff you were taught like the coordinate substitution showing centrifugal force to not be a fictional force where you put the acceleration = zero where the object being spun is instead of the center. :P
And considering what I throw out there is the stuff we're taught in physics, math and engineering, here's hoping it's at least right for those purposes, that it what you corrected me with gets taught after the second year, or I suggest you hold your breath every time you cross a bridge, ride your car or board a plane or boat, etc.  If the latter, well, that's just one more problem with the university/college system in addition to the cost...It's bad enough with economics, sociology and psychology (as me and nilecroc) have already covered in various other threads. /rant
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 07, 2014, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: T dog on January 07, 2014, 07:00:53 PM
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Which leads me to believe the prior probability for the state's legitimacy, morality and efficacy is probably a bit low.  It's had like, what? 6000 cockshitting years to work?  Hell, evolution's kicked ass and taken names with only 150.  P(State) might not be zero, but goddamn is it close.  Like...10^(-100^100) or some other freakishly low number.
With the bar being set below the cave that was mined under what used to be the bottom of the barrel, statists will have to produce evidence that goes beyond extraordinary to get me to become a believe. Specifically, they'd have to do the following AT LEAST:
1) Solve Mises Economic Calculation Problem for the State. AND prove it better for a free market (the burden of proof is on them.  Why go with violence if the default of no violence is equal or better economically?)
2) Prove that only good people will ever get into their state.
They must do both.  Period.
If they fail 1, they condemn billions to die of starvation and famine, or other horrors caused by economic miscalculation.  Or at least have lower standards of living.
If they fail 2, they condemn billions to die by the brutal hands of evil people twisting state violence for their own agendas.
I'm not sure if these both are mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 08, 2014, 12:09:04 AM
I would call them mutually inclusive. That being said, I suppose it is possible to have a state that *isn't* based on violence. It's never, to my knowledge, happened before... but it's conceivable. For the second part, they don't necessarily have to show evil people will never be in the state. They have to show that evil people will never hold power in the state; and good people will not become evil once in power in the state. Which leads us to: If the premise for the state is violence, then evil people will take power and use the state for their own ends, to varying degrees. If the premise for the state is not violence, then evil people will not take power and use the state for their own ends, to varying degrees.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 08, 2014, 06:49:24 AM
Quote from: T dog on January 07, 2014, 07:15:23 PM
*edit* I actually guessed 7.2%.  Blah. I had a day from hell today. @_@  So I'm surprised I was still as close as I was.
Anyways, very fascinating video.  Hell, I'm about 15 minutes in and it's been just awesome.  And yeah, I swear my probability education was roughly on par with your algebra education in High School.  I've taken two stats classes and not once did we get into this stuff (though it does seem a bit advanced, mathwise--given the huge Bayesian equation--for beginners, but still!) or even statistical significance.

Keep watching. There's a MUCH easier version of the equation coming. I just had to lay some groundwork for it first.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 08, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
Quote from: T dog on January 07, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Well, actually, regarding e^x = 0.  Try this:  x = negative infinity.  Or at least limit(e^x) as x approaches negative infinity) = 0.

Infinity for p=1 and negative infinity for p=0 are not solutions. As you pointed out, you have to use calculus to get there, and you see the limit as infinity. Which, mathematically speaking, means that they can never be reached. No matter how much the evidence for piles up and up and up, it will never reach infinity, hence p never reaches 1, and the same the other way: no matter how much evidence there is against something, it can never actually reach negative infinity, and hence, p likewise never reaches 0.

It's actually not a minor point; it completely reinforces what I said!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 08, 2014, 08:32:35 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 08, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
Infinity for p=1 and negative infinity for p=0 are not solutions. As you pointed out, you have to use calculus to get there, and you see the limit as infinity. Which, mathematically speaking, means that they can never be reached. No matter how much the evidence for piles up and up and up, it will never reach infinity, hence p never reaches 1, and the same the other way: no matter how much evidence there is against something, it can never actually reach negative infinity, and hence, p likewise never reaches 0.

It's actually not a minor point; it completely reinforces what I said!
Which was a thought I had, given that we're talking about p being a function of the amount of evidence thinking, "yes, but can that ever be reached or something?"  Like I said, I was really friggin frazzled last night. >.<*
But yeah, I swear, my brain wasn't built to handle probability and statistics.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 08, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
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Wonderful. :) I'm about 4 minutes in.  I notice the additional tests part reminds me of statistical significance and sample size.  Like how larger and larger sample sizes tend to be more reliable, having a larger number of tests makes the result more reliable.  It also reminds me of how at court cases (in your I Thought I Was A Feminist video) how the defense attorney tries to find holes in even the offense's character/reliability etc.  It's like they're trying to lower that prior probability of the person they're defending being guilty/found guilty.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 08, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
Quotelike they're trying to lower that prior probability of the person they're defending being guilty/found guilty.
OF COURSE THEY ARE!!! THAT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB!!! It's the definition of being a defense attorney.

That being said, If I take a A.I.D.S. test, I expect it to be 100% accurate, because either I have the H.I.V. virus, or I do not.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 06:20:10 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on January 08, 2014, 08:57:17 PMThat being said, If I take a A.I.D.S. test, I expect it to be 100% accurate, because either I have the H.I.V. virus, or I do not.

Then you need to find a different universe to live in. NOTHING is 100% accurate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 09, 2014, 07:41:44 AM
Moral of the story: ALWAYS get a second opinion when it comes to medical tests like that.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2014, 08:44:11 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on January 08, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
OF COURSE THEY ARE!!! THAT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB!!! It's the definition of being a defense attorney
Well yeah.  Hence why I used it as an example to illustrate Bayesian Analysis.  I was using Bayes' ideas to explain *why* it works that why.  Don't get all pissy with me just because you don't like or aren't comfortable with the idea of living in a probabilistic world.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 10:46:22 AM
Quote from: T dog on January 09, 2014, 08:44:11 AM
Well yeah.  Hence why I used it as an example to illustrate Bayesian Analysis.  I was using Bayes' ideas to explain *why* it works that why.  Don't get all pissy with me just because you don't like or aren't comfortable with the idea of living in a probabilistic world.

Oh, no I'm not  ;D. My drunk ass probably shouldn't have put it that way. (But I still expect tests I take at the doctors office to be accurate.) Other things... not so much. Even on the medical tests, it kinda depends on what it is, though. Like a sonagram doesn't actually tell you have cancer, it tells you you have a growth, and then a biopsy tells you what it is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 09, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
Fair warning: I haven't read past the item titles in this one, but just looking at those, I suspect it will be full of delicious cluons: http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-most-uplifting-facts-about-human-race/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2014, 04:54:57 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anarchist-Memes/422264631239623

So the page has been "hijacked" by ancaps :)

Edit: from the Anarcho-Capitalist Bronies page

As some of you may know, A n infinitely hilarious plot was hatched against the now-deceased anarchist memes, what used to be one of the most popular ancom/ansyn pages on Facebook. The page was removed as a result of a report filed way back in June 2013 because the page's admins threatened some other girl on her page.

At least that's what I know, but I honestly don't really care about the reason, I just think it's hilarious that the page was removed and it had over 80,000 likes. Sure, there is a backup page, but it's only at 5,000 likes so far, and it's going to take a while to get those numbers back up.

Meanwhile, us greedy ayncrappers, who don't believe in such silly things as intellectual property, have taken this opportunity to spread our influence. In this page's timeline posts, you will a lot of accepting, tolerant communists displaying their solidarity with their fellow anti-state comrades. Not.

#Falchion
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 10, 2014, 05:33:38 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 10, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 05:33:38 PM
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Standing ovation.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
A post from the new anarchist memes i mentioned earlier

"We here at AM don't censor anymore. Not like the past experiences you may have had. So say what you want Comrades....."

Comrades meaning the communist who have been trolling the page lately
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 10, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on January 10, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
A post from the new anarchist memes i mentioned earlier

"We here at AM don't censor anymore. Not like the past experiences you may have had. So say what you want Comrades....."

Comrades meaning the communist who have been trolling the page lately

I'm sure I understand the problem.

I thought the whole idea of ancaps is the free exchange of ideas. So why not let these statist have their say?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2014, 10:00:51 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on January 10, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
I'm sure I understand the problem.

I thought the whole idea of ancaps is the free exchange of ideas. So why not let these statist have their say?

Actually they are Ancoms, sorry i wasn't clear. And these ancoms are having their say, thats why I said the page wasn't censoring anyone. Its just that the Ancoms don't have anything meaningful to say and prefer to slander us ancaps.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 11, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
"In medicine, you never render a diagnosis based on a particular test result.  To rule out false positives for HIV, your first test needs to be highly accurate and highly precise, which you will get from a lab result, not a test kit. 

If you do turn up positive, you need additional testing such as a Western Blot or PCR method to confirm the positive. 

But if these "gold standard" tests are so good, why not use them first?  The reason is that these tests have a very low probability of a false positive, but are more likely to render a false negative. 

When you combine a low false negative, high false positive test with a high false negative, low false positive test, you get a much more accurate result, especially when combined with clinical findings. 

If Bayesian Inference were taught to med students in their first year, it would make their studies and later careers so much easier.  This is the entire basis for forming a clinical picture of a patient, and they don't even realize it!--Jason Fennec" in the comments of this video (also a win):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 11, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: T dog on January 11, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
"In medicine, you never render a diagnosis based on a particular test result.  To rule out false positives for HIV, your first test needs to be highly accurate and highly precise, which you will get from a lab result, not a test kit. 

If you do turn up positive, you need additional testing such as a Western Blot or PCR method to confirm the positive. 

But if these "gold standard" tests are so good, why not use them first?  The reason is that these tests have a very low probability of a false positive, but are more likely to render a false negative. 

When you combine a low false negative, high false positive test with a high false negative, low false positive test, you get a much more accurate result, especially when combined with clinical findings. 

If Bayesian Inference were taught to med students in their first year, it would make their studies and later careers so much easier.  This is the entire basis for forming a clinical picture of a patient, and they don't even realize it!--Jason Fennec" in the comments of this video (also a win):

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I decided to try it. For the first test, I assumed that a low false negative was 1%, and a high false positive was 30%. I started with a prior probability of .8%, like in my video.

So I put p(H)=.008, p(D|H)=.99, and p(D|H')=.3 into the calculator and got 0.0259230, which of course became the p(H) for the second test.

For the second, I assumed a high false negative was 35% and a low false positive was 2%. So p(D|H)=.65 and p(D|H')=.02. I put all that in and got 0.4637836213158338. Not quite half.

I don't know what he was considering high and low false positives and negatives, but I'd still want a third test.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 11, 2014, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
I decided to try it. For the first test, I assumed that a low false negative was 1%, and a high false positive was 30%. I started with a prior probability of .8%, like in my video.

So I put p(H)=.008, p(D|H)=.99, and p(D|H')=.3 into the calculator and got 0.0259230, which of course became the p(H) for the second test.

For the second, I assumed a high false negative was 35% and a low false positive was 2%. So p(D|H)=.65 and p(D|H')=.02. I put all that in and got 0.4637836213158338. Not quite half.

I don't know what he was considering high and low false positives and negatives, but I'd still want a third test.
To be fair, I was mainly posting it for the last bit of his quote more than anything else and possibly the first sentence (pointing out you need more than one test).  The rest was kinda "meh" to me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 11, 2014, 03:35:48 PM
"Capitalism isn't voluntary because your being voluntold to work for me or starve." said some ancom.

I decide to put it in fav quotes because it was so horrible it was hilarious XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 11, 2014, 03:36:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 11, 2014, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: D on January 11, 2014, 03:36:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 05:33:38 PM
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Social Justice Warriors are a laughing stock.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/simply-raw-making-overcooked-claims-about-raw-food-diets/
Damn, if only I could something like this on Super Size Me.
http://www.skepdic.com/bloodtypediet.html
So we really *did* lose average height when we switched to agriculture?  Damn, wouldn't have thought that Fatheads bloke was right.

To add to that, his diet says that my blood type (B) has dairy products on my "highly beneficial" list--especially lower fat/fat free ones.
The kicker?  I'm lactose intolerant!  If I drink too much milk, I get diarrhea.

And while I'm at it:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19628_9-ridiculous-cooking-myths-you-probably-believe_p2.html
#2 on that list:  Suck it raw food people!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 12, 2014, 03:48:55 PM
QuoteHow you live in your own home, even if your home is hundreds of acres, is your own business. But it is property rights that allow you to run a commune on those acres, property rights that allow you (even hundreds of you in common ownership like a corporation) to banish those who don't cooperate with the community. A commune that exists in an ancap world is part of the ancap world. Defense is not force. Any other way of living DOES involve force. Ancaps are not permitted to exist in a global socialist utopia which 'got rid of' capitalism. A 'final solution' for those who value freedom of association would be necessary.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: tnu on January 12, 2014, 03:48:55 PM
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I lol'ed at that. XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern." —Lord Acton
Made.  Of.  Win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
"Are feminists saying that men are nothing but shallow pigs who can only see boobs and butts?  Then men should be offended.  Are they saying that women are delicate little flowers who need to be protected from even the slightest possible criticism and even subjective preferences of a teen vlogger? Then women should be offended. Are they saying all men should be killed off including babies, or at least castrated and/or circumcised at birth?  Then humanity should be offended."--Me.

What can I say? Sometimes I got it goin' on! n.n
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on January 12, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
wahoo

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on January 13, 2014, 02:03:13 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 13, 2014, 07:17:01 AM
Quote"Kill the spiders and save the butterflies... it's rational until you realize that by striving for it, you become a spider yourself."
—Vash the Stampede, Trigun
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 13, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 13, 2014, 09:50:29 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on January 14, 2014, 01:47:55 PM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on January 14, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 14, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
"so the Butcher of Beirut is dead. if only his end were more fitting"

--more than enough Palestinians.

it's a favorite because it really shows how much people are grateful for the "peace" he gave us...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_761_the-22-most-misleading-viral-photos-explained/?view=article
Love this one. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2014, 01:50:44 PM
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A classic video by our own Lord T Hawkeye. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2014, 02:26:13 PM
Another from Hawkeye:
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Fucking awesome video by InternetAristocrat.  Took the words right out of my mouth, bro!
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 15, 2014, 06:43:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 15, 2014, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: D on January 15, 2014, 06:43:48 PM
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Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2014, 10:02:19 PM
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/1/0/6/186106_v1.jpg)
Oh, how I wish that were possible!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 16, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
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Fucking classic by Morrakiu.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 16, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-high-school-doesnt-prepare-you-work/
As someone who just graduated college, this is very well said and timed. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 17, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
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Nice!
Two things:
1) The graphic regarding private charity Steve displayed.  Well, gee, you don't think that might have a little something to do with govco taxing over half our income crowding out private donations?  What an ass!

2) At its core, libertarianism *is* anarchism and vise versa with anarcho communism being an oxymoron for the same reason 'libertarianism socialism' is.  Kinda odd for you to post fav quotes of how the minarchism/anarchism debate is semantics while saying stuff like that which you did near the end...Besides, like you even said in the video, yes, we don't know if those ideas of ours will work.  But we DO know that the police/courts/military we have now don't and that the burden of proof isn't on us anyways.  And that's all we need.  We don't oppose those things, much less their alleged functions, anymore than you oppose the idea of feeding the poor and caring for the sick.  We only oppose a violent monopoly on those things.  Hell, one of the questions that make me go from minarchism to anarchism was when Ladyattis on YouTube asked: "If you don't like a police force for, say, racial profiling or enforcing victimless crime laws, why should you be *forced* to fund them? IT'S YOUR MONEY!"

Also, it's hilarious Steve calls us "greedy, selfish 5 year olds" when demanding crap from government is exactly that! I mean, come on! I'm selfish for not wanting to have my shit stolen, but you're moral and giving for wanting to have it stolen for yourself? Fuck off, Steve!


A fav quote in the comments by Shane in the video:  "Read what Murray Rothbard had to say about Rand and her cult sometime."
And a fail quote from Guncriminal related to say when he said that, "There isn't much evidence any of Rothbard's experiences with the objectivists really happened." with him primarily referring to Rothbard's play: "Mozart was a Red"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 17, 2014, 07:13:35 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18549_8-health-foods-that-are-bad-your-health.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_18965_5-weight-loss-tips-cynical-bastards.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19130_6-fitness-tips-everyones-heard-that-dont-work-at-all.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19296_6-lies-about-human-body-you-learned-in-kindergarten.html
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-people-who-will-ruin-your-attempt-to-lose-weight/
http://www.cracked.com/article_20217_5-well-known-tips-healthy-eating-that-dont-work.html
http://www.realsimple.com/health/nutrition-diet/weight-loss/busting-10-diet-myths-10000001700385/index.html

All of the above are win articles on the subjects of health and the human body.
The only exception that really sticks out for me is #4 in the first/top article I linked.  I don't buy that about fish.  Especially in light of the meta study www.YouTube/user/ThatGuyFromAustria linked to in one of his anti-vegan videos which showed that in terms of lifespan from longest to shortest:

1) People who eat fish, but not meat
2) Vegetarians
3) people who eat fish and meat
4) Vegans

Then you have the Japanese who tend to eat lots of fish yet last I checked aren't in the midst of a population wide metallic poisoning crisis, are generally healthy, and live long too.  So it's more of a matter of "unhealthy compared to what?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 17, 2014, 09:23:13 PM
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http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/its-time-for-women-to-woman-up/
Both are outstanding. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 18, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5427762/
Quote from: yamatoiouko
The Furry Fandom

You know, it feels a lot like I hear about how BAD people are in the fandom. People always go on about how selfish it is, on the whole. Or how so-and-so did this, and how dare they, and just some terrible shit. It's been enough that it can make you dwell and wonder if there's anything good about this fandom or the people in it.

...but that's a load. Sure, there's crappy furries, and there's mean furries, and there's jackass furries...but have you people met the NON-furries out there? Seriously, they are NOT any better. You go to an anime con, or a sci-fi con, and it's not like these people have any more respect for each other, or any more maturity. Furries are human, just like anyone else participating in society, as much as many of us would wish to deny or ignore it.

But still. Our fandom has a kind of cohesiveness that others don't. We actually give a shit about each other; hell, the number of times I've seen people worry about friends on FA, then have support from people they don't even know makes me think that most of us give more of a shit than your average everyday jagoff. I think the problem is, the furry fandom is kind of like a family, in all the good and bad ways. We care about people we don't even know, but when something bad happens, when we have interpersonal problems, they're even bigger than if we were just strangers. When someone fucks up, we make it a public affair because, well, it's like we have a black sheep in the family.

In the end, is being part of this fandom worth it? Is it worth dealing with all this pariah-shaming and drama we can have? That's up to the reader, honestly. But I've been a part of it for eleven years, now. And I really don't want to go anywhere else. We really are like an extended family, in a lot of regards, and I like that part of being a furry far too much to let the bad parts pull me down. If you can't see it like that...well, that sucks, but best of luck to you if you decide to leave. For everyone else that decides that being a furry is worth it, I'm happy to know you're staying. :)
*Standing ovation!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 19, 2014, 12:49:09 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 19, 2014, 01:02:32 PM
And while I'm at it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 19, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/7-hilariously-predictable-porn-trends-from-across-globe/
For making me laugh. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 19, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
>legalize weed
>make it to the Super Bowl


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Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 20, 2014, 12:02:51 AM
Quote from: D on January 19, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
>legalize weed
>make it to the Super Bowl


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Damn! God must approve of Marijuana! :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 20, 2014, 08:34:53 AM
That's the thing about marijuana: it ruins your life everywhere EXCEPT sports, where it's a performance enhancer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 21, 2014, 06:05:10 AM
QuoteTo the ass hat above repeatedly claiming that GE crops were never tested before being used . . . you DO realize they WERE tested before being used, right? Do you have even a cursory understanding of biology? Do you know what a gene is? Go ahead - we'll wait while you Google it. If you alter a gene to produce a protein then you've altered a gene to produce a protein. If you insert a gene from fish into a tomato, you have not made the tomato like a fish; you've moved one gene. There is nothing about a gene that specific to the species in which it is found; your tomato will not grow scales, it will not grow fins or in anyway be anything fish like. The altered gene will produce the protein and that's it. It is not a "fish" gene. DNA and genes do not cause cancer - this is why the process to approve new GE products only need to demonstrate that the new protein(s) are safe or are generally recognized as safe.


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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 21, 2014, 07:29:27 AM
Quote from: tnu on January 21, 2014, 06:05:10 AM

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AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SNAP!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 21, 2014, 12:12:48 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-facts-everyone-gets-wrong-about-depression/
*Standing Ovation!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 21, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20869_5-ways-growing-up-inside-scientology-was-nightmare.html
Unlike most, I read all of the above two articles.  Holy shit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 21, 2014, 05:38:57 PM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on January 21, 2014, 05:45:54 PM
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Post by: AnCap Dave on January 21, 2014, 11:13:13 PM
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Post by: evensgrey on January 22, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
Quote from: T dog on January 21, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20869_5-ways-growing-up-inside-scientology-was-nightmare.html
Unlike most, I read all of the above two articles.  Holy shit.

Now, see, THIS is why you need to be careful what bets you make.
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Post by: Skm1091 on January 22, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
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Post by: Skm1091 on January 22, 2014, 11:31:52 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 23, 2014, 12:19:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-exaggerated-dangers-everyone-loves-to-hype/
Overall win, but not completely.
4) Was fucking win.
3) There have been other experiments on that cited by Mary J Ruwart with at least somewhat similar results so this one could have been better.
2) A bit weak imho with the exception of the end of it, but otherwise no complaints.
1) >>The cause is social pressure and wealth disparity
Seriously OP?  You're going THAT route?  Not a single mention of the war on drugs, which has only ever increased drug use?  Lame!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 25, 2014, 06:56:26 PM
"It is absolutely completely fucking ridiculous to ask noninterventionists about World War II. The destruction of the Weimar Republic and the subsequent rise of the Nazis--and hence, World War II itself--would never have happened if the US had a noninterventionist policy.

World War I ended in a stalemate. Both sides were war-weary and seeking peace. It would almost certainly have been an equitable peace if the US hadn't popped in at the last minute and won the war so decisively for the Allies, and Wilson campaigning heavily for the brutal and barbaric Treaty of Versailles.

Not to mention the fact that World War I only happened because of the very entangling alliances that Jefferson warned us about to begin with."--Shanedk on WWII, helping some guy who asked about it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 25, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
Prepare to cross your legs.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2014, 02:14:22 AM
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Posted because it is fascinating.  Shane is that stuff about the "Deep Web" really true?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 26, 2014, 07:47:39 AM
Quote from: T dog on January 26, 2014, 02:14:22 AM
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Posted because it is fascinating.  Shane is that stuff about the "Deep Web" really true?

Most of it's conspiracy nonsense. Kind of like the people who say that Bitcoin is a tool for drug dealers etc.

The Deep Web is simply the parts of the web that cannot be accessed by indexers. So this would include all password-protected content and content behind paywalls. Many pages that are the result of form submissions can't be accessed, and so are part of the Deep Web, or anything behind a CAPTCHA. Scripted and dynamic pages, and file types that robots can't parse, are all part of it. This also includes file types that cannot be parsed by a 'bot, and since that includes most binary files and they tend to be a LOT bigger than text-based HTML files, then OF COURSE this is going to be much larger when measured by terabytes.

And yes, the secret network on Tor is part of it, too, but they gave that really scary figure of 96% and pretended it was all stuff like secret Tor websites, when if you think of it a lot of it is on this very site, like what you see after your login page or where you can go to change your profile information. That's what most of it is.

The Dark Web is NOT the same thing. It's mostly older networks that haven't been incorporated into the modern internet, or it could also be secure private networks with no firewall or other exposure to the web.

Mostly all of this is an attempt to associate security and privacy measures--such as Tor, VPNs, Bitcoin, PGP, etc.--with the criminal underworld.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2014, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 26, 2014, 07:47:39 AM
Most of it's conspiracy nonsense. Kind of like the people who say that Bitcoin is a tool for drug dealers etc.

The Deep Web is simply the parts of the web that cannot be accessed by indexers. So this would include all password-protected content and content behind paywalls. Many pages that are the result of form submissions can't be accessed, and so are part of the Deep Web, or anything behind a CAPTCHA. Scripted and dynamic pages, and file types that robots can't parse, are all part of it. This also includes file types that cannot be parsed by a 'bot, and since that includes most binary files and they tend to be a LOT bigger than text-based HTML files, then OF COURSE this is going to be much larger when measured by terabytes.

And yes, the secret network on Tor is part of it, too, but they gave that really scary figure of 96% and pretended it was all stuff like secret Tor websites, when if you think of it a lot of it is on this very site, like what you see after your login page or where you can go to change your profile information. That's what most of it is.

The Dark Web is NOT the same thing. It's mostly older networks that haven't been incorporated into the modern internet, or it could also be secure private networks with no firewall or other exposure to the web.

Mostly all of this is an attempt to associate security and privacy measures--such as Tor, VPNs, Bitcoin, PGP, etc.--with the criminal underworld.
Thanks. :) The last sentence of your post is what I thought too by the end of it, but I wanted to make sure.  Glad to hear from someone who knows what he's talking about. If knew what I do now, I'd have posted that in fail quotes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 26, 2014, 05:25:39 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 26, 2014, 05:25:39 PM
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LOL! That was awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 27, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 27, 2014, 10:20:53 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BreadGod on January 28, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
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Long story short, a bunch of Tumblrites got butthurt over JelloApocalypse's "Welcome to Tumblr" video, so the Internet Aristocrat tears them a new one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 29, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20249_5-ways-you-can-improve-world-with-almost-no-effort.html
Interesting.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 29, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
When Greg Gutfeld is on a roll, he's on a roll.
I do disagree with him alot though.

http://twitchy.com/2014/01/29/only-greg-gutfeld-could-make-obamas-flying-bullsht-sotu-speech-this-tolerable/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 29, 2014, 11:21:28 PM
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Another classic by Hawkeye. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-everyone-gets-wrong-about-mental-illness/
I smell cluons in this. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 30, 2014, 11:51:36 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 30, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on January 30, 2014, 11:51:36 AM
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frankly, God as a mafia boss still beats government...At least Mafia bosses have honor...OOWWWW I'm on a roll today insulting government! (not in the forum)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 30, 2014, 04:17:23 PM
From Shane Killian's video comments here:
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"To +Bo Deanicus (who posted in a way I couldn't reply directly to for some strange reason; stupid Google):

It's the statists who rule with greed, as their state lets them gain money earned by other people while protecting "too big to fail" corporations and bailing out the losers at the expense of people who were actually sensible with their money.

Really, I've never understood why people who simply want to keep the money they earn and do business in a peaceful and voluntary way are greedy and the people who want to use force to take that money and inhibit that business are altrustic. Makes no sense.

In a free market, greed is tempered by loss aversion, and since a free market is voluntary, greed can only be satiated by convincing someone else to give up money by providing something he values even more.

That's why the free market is the only system that can work: instead of shaking a finger at someone for being greedy, and attempting to get in the way of peaceful people engaging in voluntary transactions, you stick them into a positive-sum game and let that greed and selfishness power a globally-prosperous market.

All we need to do is get the priests in Holy Government out of the way."

"This is another thing I've noticed about these discussions: in almost every post, the statist HAS to denigrate the character of the libertarian: he's evil, he's greedy, he's a wannabe rich guy, whereas NONE of the libertarian arguments depend on this kind of character assassination. When we do go after the statist personally it's because of the irrationality of the arguments that he makes, in pretending the state is omnipotent or that laws have the power of magical incantations.

There are times when individuals are insulted for their dishonesty, but it's the dishonesty, not the statism, that's the foundation for these insults. Whereas the statists use nothing more than the fact that the libertarian is a libertarian to call him greedy or whatever, with no other information at hand whatsoever.

But not only is it not necessary to impugn the character of statists to argue for libertarianism, libertarians point out all the time how many if not most of these statist policies are well-intended, just misguided and frought with unintended consequences. Libertarians say that intentions don't matter; only actions and their consequences. Statists just can't seem to stop tying intentions into it, even when there's no reason to do so.

So I ask you: is it REALLY the case that the side who has to attribute bad intentions or character flaws to the other side as a whole, simply on the basis of their being on that side, has the higher Prior Probability?"

:)

To this I would add that sometimes folks like Lord T Hawkeye *will* occasionally call their character into it, e.g. Marx being a PoS (Hawkeye did it better justice than I can), but it's in response to them doing it to us.  If it is a valid argument for them to use against us, it is valid for us to use against them.  It's called expecting a standard of integrity, folks.  If they don't like it, Girlwriteswhat has some big girl panties they can borrow.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 31, 2014, 12:41:32 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2014, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on January 31, 2014, 12:41:32 AM
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>>Other anarchists.
Meaning so called 'anarcho' communists, I take it. :P
Still funny as hell regardless. XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2014, 12:39:31 PM
In the comments of the following video:
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"I don't know about anyone else but if I was offered conscription immunity in exchange for my right to vote, I would take it in a heartbeat.
It's not like voting matters anyway."--Lord T Hawkeye.

Same here.   And this is coming from a bisexual male: I never understood all the hoopla over gays/bisexuals being allowed back into the military.
"Yay! Now we can be enslaved by the military industrial complex to die for rich bitter politicians into murdering everyone they don't like AND die for them for no good reason whatsofuckingever!"  Or "Now we can be enslaved and murdered by our own government freely as draftees/human fodder to protect us from the distant possibility of some other foreign government doing it to us! :D" And I'm like: "Seriously guys, you have Stockholm Syndrome or something?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 31, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18858_the-biggest-star-wars-plot-hole-explained-by-science.html
All my yes.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on January 31, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
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She forgot one more thing. Mafiosos are HONEST compared to vast majority of politicians
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Post by: AnCap Dave on February 01, 2014, 11:32:52 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 01, 2014, 01:05:33 PM
"Of course science doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop! But just because science doesn't know everything doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairy tale notion most appeals to you." —Dara Ó Briain
From a comment Shane made on a video on Google+.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 01, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
So, Sir Morien of the Round Table was black.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/not-all-knights-round-table-were-white-180949361/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 02, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 02, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2014, 08:18:49 AM
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist."--Lysander Spooner
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2014, 10:46:12 AM
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The first 2-3 minutes alone were just pure win.

She notes that a lot of feminists consider slapping women on the wrists as treating them as children.  Um, what?  Which feminists?  Most of the ones I've seen (and that she's rebutted) pretty much demand treating women like delicate flowers and unique snowflakes, solely to spare their feelz.  So which is it feminists?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2014, 01:17:22 PM
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_785_16-ridiculous-examples-bureaucracy-in-action/?view=article
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
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Long, but worth it.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2014, 09:29:23 PM
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Best near the end, but worth the wait.  Fucking win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2014, 10:49:04 AM
"If 'God' had intended for men to have their foreskins removed he never would have given them to us in the first place."--Me, just now.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 04, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2014, 10:49:04 AM
"If 'God' had intended for men to have their foreskins removed he never would have given them to us in the first place."--Me, just now.

Never made any sense to me. Even less is creationists continuing the tradition: God made our bodies to be perfect, except for this bit at the end of the penis which needs to be snipped off.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 04, 2014, 11:11:22 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 04, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
Never made any sense to me. Even less is creationists continuing the tradition: God made our bodies to be perfect, except for this bit at the end of the penis which needs to be snipped off.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 04, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
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*standing ovation!* :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
The talk in this thread:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2373.0

Reminded me of a fucking classic XKCD:

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(Mouseover text: "And the ten minutes striking up a conversation with that strange kid in homeroom sometimes matters more than every other part of high school combined." )

Also, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

Which makes me wonder just *how* inefficient and indeed anti-efficient that our schools--colleges too!--really are.
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Post by: Skm1091 on February 05, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 06, 2014, 07:28:24 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2014, 07:24:07 PMAlso, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

Yeah. "Now here's what we're going to prove..." And they wonder why people are so screwed up when it comes to science literacy!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on February 06, 2014, 09:02:28 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 05, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
Also, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

I think they do it the way they do it so the students aren't held up (more than they already are) to public ridicule when they do it wrong. I mean, it's one thing to get it wrong on a paper, it's totally different to get it wrong while presenting your project to the class. Oh, that and the fact most teachers don't know how to do it either, so the only way of grading it is if everyone gets the prescribed answer - which is sometimes incorrect if you actually do the experiment as described.

Of course, they could adopt something along the lines of:

Correct methodology/correct conclusion=full points
Correct methodology/incorrect conclusion=half points
Incorrect methodology/correct conclusion=expulsion - well, okay, no points for that project.
Correct methodology/correct conclusion that doesn't match the answer key (and you can consistently repeat it)=double points.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 06, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on February 06, 2014, 09:02:28 AMI think they do it the way they do it so the students aren't held up (more than they already are) to public ridicule when they do it wrong.

But that should be part of ANY science course: why it's okay--and even great--to be wrong!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2014, 01:04:33 PM
The top comment on this cracked.com article:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/


"When I was a kid, the adult figures in my life would periodically tell me just how much harder I'd have it as an adult. I have to be responsible. I have to work full time (with no summer or winter vacation!). I have to drive. I have to shop. I have to pay rent and bills. I have to be mature and control myself. Oh, and because I gave up the piano, I won't have anything fun to do ever again.

Work? You mean spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in a climate-controlled building and perform various tasks I'm well qualified for, with the occasional emergency or rush assignment? No problem. Granted, there are a *few* stressful moments, but not every day's like that. And no, there aren't any preset summer or winter vacations...I can schedule them WHENEVER I WANT (with management approval, of course).

Driving? I'll admit that traffic has gotten pretty horrendous lately, but that's still a huge step up from not having a car at all and never being able to go where I want.

Shopping? Go in, grab what I need, pay for it with the money I make from my job, exit, go home and put it away. No problem. And with online shopping, I don't even have that much.

Rent and bills? Write a check and give it to someone. Simplicity itself. Unless, of course, it's one of the many institutions that has automatic bill payments, where I spend three minutes with the computer and then don't have to do *anything* afterward. (And yes, I realize that not having enough to pay the rent or bills is a very real problem for a lot of adults...I deal with them regularly...but I'm not going to debate it here.)

Maturity? Self-control? Hell, I'm a natural. If I lost it in the past, it was either because 1. I was a kid, or 2. I was surrounded by irritating ignorant jerks who'd drive *anyone* nuts, I just was a little more expressive about it. I've never been a troublemaker. I've never stirred up crap for no reason.

You know what was really, really hard? Being teased, mocked, made fun of, and victimized. Being systematically ignored and marginalized by *every single adult figure* in my life, saying that I was full of it and I should just "ignore it" (because we all know how many problems that solves, right?). Being forced to do endless ridiculous, embarrassing skits, dragged from place to place like a dog on a leash, thrown into disgusting, corrupt institutions that ceased to have any positive value (hello Boy Scouts!), enduring the maelstrom of our psychotic sports culture, one horrible vacation after another, one miserable, neverending wedding reception after another, one miserable, neverending dinner service after another, one wild party after another, one soul-draining piano lesson after another, at every turned forced to smile, forced to endure the pain, forced to go to a place designed to make me miserable, FORCED, FORCED, FORCED. And all the while surrounded by surly, ill-mannered, stupid, ignorant, blind wretches who couldn't possibly give less of a damn about my well-being.

Good riddance to all that. Rent? A small price to pay for *not being treated like a piece of crap every goddam day*.

As for entertainment...this is the Internet, just DOWNLOAD your damn piano music like a normal person! :-D "--hawaiidkw

How true is that?  I mean, how much better would lives in general be without all the dishonesty and other crap in early childhood relationships?  The being treated like cattle in public schools, feeling like a burden instead of loved by parents, and being allowed to learn *real* responsibility from the start and mature into an adult in a more honest and natural way?  Hell, Stef touched on this in his first book on the Tyranny of Illusion.  Very good read, imho. :)

Really, that article is just one more reason to be a libertarian imho.  I believe what both John and the comment's OP said.  The difference between us is I don't stop there.  I apply it to ALL social institutions, not the least of which is government and religion.  That's how you know you're dealing with a state cultist:  Why does government get a free pass despite the beautiful posts against it John and the comment's OP just made?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_640_22-insane-laws-you-wont-believe-exist-in-modern-world/?view=article
Alternate title: 22 government failures.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
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I never understood the people saying, "UUUUHHHH MEN ARE JUST LAZY, STONER FRATBOY POS'S!"  Folks, if that were true, this wouldn't be a recent development.  I mean, come on!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 06, 2014, 05:55:43 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/02/03/Salon-com-Defends-Communism-Mass-Murders-and-All
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 06, 2014, 06:57:24 PM
A news anchor just said, "I'm going to say the name of this chemical but it has so many syllables you know it's a bad thing." NO. No, you don't know that based on phonetics. -Libertarian Girl
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 06, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
Today is the 3 year anniversary of the death of guitarist Gary Moore. I'm going to post this in Fav Quotes because 1. it's a great song and 2. It's a great anti-war song. It also features the late and great Phil Lynott as well. I also must admit that the video itself is hilariously cheesy and so 80s.

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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2014, 08:17:42 PM
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*Standing ovation!* :)

And Hawkeye's comment to someone too:
"Easy question to resolve the whole minimum wage issue: If someone wants to work for less than minimum wage, are you going to stop him?  By force if necessary?  If not, then you shouldn't support minimum wage because that's what it does.

It's that gun in the room that we take issue with, not the idea of people getting fair wages."

It's like Shane said years ago back in his economic basics lesson on the minimum wage: "If you are not able to provide at least X dollars per hour in value to your employer, you should be legally prohibited from having a job--That's what the minimum wage says!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 06, 2014, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: D on February 06, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
Today is the 3 year anniversary of the death of guitarist Gary Moore. I'm going to post this in Fav Quotes because 1. it's a great song and 2. It's a great anti-war song. It also features the late and great Phil Lynott as well. I also must admit that the video itself is hilariously cheesy and so 80s.

Gary Moore was awesome. He could make the guitar cry...and me, too.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 07, 2014, 06:54:03 PM
http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/rise-of-the-libertarians#axzz2se9D8ZhM
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 08, 2014, 03:41:52 PM
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Something many people forget about relationships.  Being alone ain't the worst thing ever.  It can always be worse...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 09, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
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Very good watch. :)
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 09, 2014, 08:07:05 PM
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nothing like watching a guy skin a collection of cowards alive.
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Post by: MrBogosity on February 10, 2014, 09:32:06 AM
Interesting!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 10, 2014, 05:48:42 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/humanity-forced-to-put-down-aging-god,35230/
The Onion is made of win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 11, 2014, 01:09:23 PM
"There's no point in mincing words.  Arresting someone for having loliporn DRAWINGS is thought policing and until Vulcan mind melding has been perfected, thought policing will always be an utterly arbitrary and selective law [at best]."--Hawkeye's post here:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg21170#msg21170
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.msg23410#msg23410
For great justice. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2014, 03:54:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20297_5-popular-self-help-tips-that-actually-hurt-your-career.html
Especially #4 (about visualizing your success).
To give everyone an example, I tried it about 10 years ago when I tried lifting weights at the huge amounts of praise the authors of The Body Sculpting Bible for Men lumped on visualizing the body you want to end up with, and it doing me at best no good to at worst, de-motivating me for the reasons they list.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on February 12, 2014, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2014, 03:54:34 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20297_5-popular-self-help-tips-that-actually-hurt-your-career.html
Especially #4 (about visualizing your success).
To give everyone an example, I tried it about 10 years ago when I tried lifting weights at the huge amounts of praise the authors of The Body Sculpting Bible for Men lumped on visualizing the body you want to end up with, and it doing me at best no good to at worst, de-motivating me for the reasons they list.

Yeah, P&T had an episode that kinda touched on that. If you don't have the genetics to be HHH, all the fantasizing in the world isn't going to help. Even if you're doing the fantasizing at 24hr fitness.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2014, 07:47:45 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on February 12, 2014, 06:43:01 PM
Yeah, P&T had an episode that kinda touched on that. If you don't have the genetics to be HHH, all the fantasizing in the world isn't going to help. Even if you're doing the fantasizing at 24hr fitness.
What's HHH?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on February 12, 2014, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 12, 2014, 07:47:45 PM
What's HHH?

A wrestler on WWE.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 13, 2014, 05:41:03 PM
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This explains so much...

And of course "Anarchy!" Cue the Anarchy Boogey man:  http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/03/21/the-anarchy-boogey-man/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on February 13, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
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A youtuber Razorfist hits it out the park on the failure of Gaming Journalism
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Post by: ArtemisVale on February 14, 2014, 12:52:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 09:08:48 AM
My economics professor (and everyone else who doesn't like but still watches the News):  "But Travis, if you don't watch the news, how will you be/stay informed?"
Me:  "Better a head that's empty, than one that's full of shit."

Okay, I didn't REALLY say that to his/their face (nor would I), but still, it was too awesome NOT to include here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 14, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 09:08:48 AM
My economics professor (and everyone else who doesn't like but still watches the News):  "But Travis, if you don't watch the news, how will you be/stay informed?"
Me:  "Better a head that's empty, than one that's full of shit."

Okay, I didn't REALLY say that to his/their face (nor would I), but still, it was too awesome NOT to include here.

last night my management professor was talking about ethics and going on about how bad walmart employees are treated and afterwards i wanted to say "Well sure its bad but at least walmart isn't drone bombing weddings or spending its employees pensions and footing us with the bill."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20999_5-terrifying-ways-being-in-love-chemically-impairs-you.html
Posted in fav quotes because it's so damn fascinating.
#5 might also explain:  fanboys/fangirls, and why women are also often attracted to douchebags.  If they take his positive qualities (muscles, assertiveness/not being a wimp and being rich) and stretch to the rest of him.  I don't buy the "they have no control over it" deal though, sorry.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on February 14, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on February 13, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
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A youtuber Razorfist hits it out the park on the failure of Gaming Journalism

This is the same guy who doesn't actually play the games he reviews. Or at least that's what he use to do. He is every bit of a scumbag as the people he critisizes, more even.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:18:48 PM
"Yet the test should be so simple: just listen to any prophet and if you hear him speak of sacrifice--run. Run faster than from a plague. It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And (he) intends to be the master. But if you ever hear a man telling you that you must be happy, that its your natural right, that your first duty is to yourself; that will be the man who has nothing to gain from you. But let him come and you'll scream your empty heads off, howling that he's a selfish monster. So the racket is safe for many, many centuries."--Ayn Rand, in one of her more lucid moments, in this video's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCe6p7zhR5o) description.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
"It doesn't surprise me that somebody who is so muddled in their thinking, and is so afraid of the irrational, would give magic powers to words. Guess what? It's four letters, it's phonemes, they don't have any magical powers; it's a way of expressing an exclamation mark...I was exclaiming that this is absurd for you to call in and do this—to call in and pretend like you're going to defend your beliefs, and then when they're challenged directly to a point that you can't defend them, you cry that your feelings got hurt because somebody used a word that was scary. It's no wonder that you are still stuck in this mindset of being afraid of fantasy if one little word sends you screaming off, 'Ooh, the poor atheists, they're beating up on me and they're saying offensive things!'" —Matt Dillahunty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPO23_aW3g&feature=youtu.be&t=7m17s)

Applies to the Social Justice Warrior shitstains, as well as it does the religious/statist fucktards.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 14, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
"It doesn't surprise me that somebody who is so muddled in their thinking, and is so afraid of the irrational, would give magic powers to words. Guess what? It's four letters, it's phonemes, they don't have any magical powers; it's a way of expressing an exclamation mark...I was exclaiming that this is absurd for you to call in and do this—to call in and pretend like you're going to defend your beliefs, and then when they're challenged directly to a point that you can't defend them, you cry that your feelings got hurt because somebody used a word that was scary. It's no wonder that you are still stuck in this mindset of being afraid of fantasy if one little word sends you screaming off, 'Ooh, the poor atheists, they're beating up on me and they're saying offensive things!'" —Matt Dillahunty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPO23_aW3g&feature=youtu.be&t=7m17s)

Applies to the Social Justice Warrior shitstains, as well as it does the religious/statist fucktards.

If you do a search on it, the video it's from is (way) earlier in this topic.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 14, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
If you do a search on it, the video it's from is (way) earlier in this topic.
Shit.  My bad. >.<  In my defense, at least I had something to add to it. >.>
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 14, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Shit.  My bad. >.<  In my defense, at least I had something to add to it. >.>

No problem; it's good to repost the best of the best after 245 pages...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 14, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
No problem; it's good to repost the best of the best after 245 pages...
Reminds me of your post to Waddy Mutters.  Why is it that these guys can see that a reduction in income of, say 5$/hour would hurt someone on minimum wage financially much more than someone making 200$/hour, yet can't use the exact same logic to a company/businessman in the same comparative boat?

And while I'm talking about that video's comments: "How about 'someone whose work speed is 1/5th that of someone earning $10 an hour.'"--hughtub
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 05:41:50 PM
"And with what cost does he purchase this increased threat of crime and violence? The sacrifice of his own liberty. For all of mankind's experience speaks to the fact that by far the single most common aggressor against the rights of mankind is, and always will be, states. In the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson expressed the concept that states exist for the purpose of securing our rights. Yet, what a misguided notion! To see how misguided this notion is, one merely needs to read the so-called Bill of Rights to the Constitution. This document attempts to secure for all Americans the rights to freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom to bear arms, security against having the military quartered in my home, security against unreasonable searches and seizures, and security against unfair judicial proceedings. But who is it that threatens these rights if it is not states? The argument is, therefore, circular: I need a state to secure my rights, which rights are only threatened by states."--Caleb Johnson,

Full article:  http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/03/21/the-anarchy-boogey-man/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/11/28/anarchy-isnt-the-answer/
Related to Shane's Atheism & Libertarianism series.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 15, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 16, 2014, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: eHarmony of all placesYour man loves you – and doesn’t want to hear certain things from you.

To keep your happy, healthy relationship healthy and happy, stay away from the following phrases. Here are ten things women should never say to their men:

1. “Man up.” This emasculating phrase is never, ever appropriate. He is a man. If he’s not meeting your expectations, learn to communicate this clearly and without insult.

2. “We need to talk.” Yes, you should talk to your man. No, you should not warn him that you need to talk about something yet-to-be-described that will likely be uncomfortable. This phrase is the most likely to shift him into defensive mode. Try a more loving approach and you will surely get better results.

3. “Size doesn’t matter.” If size doesn’t matter, don’t talk about size.

4. “Is she prettier than me?” Related: “Do I look fat in this?” If the question you’re asking him has only one acceptable answer – and if a too-long pause in responding will only feed your insecurities – just trust that his answer would have been the right one and don’t bother to ask it.

5. “You’re just like my ex.” Worse: “I’ve had better.” You don’t want to be compared to his exes, so don’t compare him to yours. Even if he comes out on top, it’s still an awkward comparison.

6. “Are you really that stupid?” Be careful not to use language that emasculates and belittles your guy. Treat him with respect, even when you’re angry or disappointed.

7. “Never mind. I’ll do it myself.” Don’t dismiss the offers of help from your man. A common love language is acts of service. Don’t deny him the opportunity to serve you. Sometimes it’s nice to feel needed.

8. “I can’t live without you.” Use desperate language with caution, and stay clear of phrases that sound clingy in early stages of the relationship. Let him take the lead when it comes to commitment and promises of a future together.

9. “I’m not your mother.” Worse: “I’m just like my mother.” Keep your mom(s) out of it, unless you’re actually talking about patterns learned from your respective families of origin.

10. “Nothing’s wrong.” Yes, it is. He can’t read your mind. If something’s wrong, tell him what’s wrong.

I was not expecting this kind of win from eHarmony:  https://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating-tips-women/ten-things-women-should-never-say-to-their-men/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/another-conservative-traditionalist-gets-it-wrong-about-men-and-women/
Another win from that place.  I don't agree with him lumping (some) MRAs into this nor saying only Betas drop out.  I don't buy that.  The guy (as far as I can tell) doesn't give a single example of an MRA who does that, so fail on that part.  Has he not seen the seething, fuming rage just calling yourself an MRA gets from feminists, white knights and betas?

I also don't buy that "getting women out of the workplace" would be a solution.  Just get rid of the bogus laws, regulations/HR bullshit and things would be much better.  Stop giving women special privileges they wouldn't otherwise get in a free society.  No need to get all petty and whiny and going in the opposite direction with government laws instead favoring men would be any better, OP.  In short, learn to see the unseen and not just the seen; just like any good economist/social scientist does.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on February 16, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 16, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
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An Oldy but goody




Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 17, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
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>> 0:10
>>"BlameThe1st may have deleted but the videos are still there."
Just...what.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 18, 2014, 03:27:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2014, 09:49:55 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 16, 2014, 07:28:25 PM
This is why I support the policy "You're not allowed access to any technology newer than the oldest idea you embrace."

You wanna turn to bronze age texts as your moral code?  Fine, but next time you cut yourself, here's your leeches.  No modern medicine, that's WAY too new fangled for you.

The so called "immorality" of homosexuality has been disproven six ways to sunday.  Get out of the damn stone ages!

Quoted for Truth and Great Justice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on February 18, 2014, 06:25:28 PM
Julie Borowski does it again!
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Happy valentines day!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 18, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
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YES! So glad to hear someone who knows what he's talking about on net neutrality. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 18, 2014, 09:10:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
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:)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 19, 2014, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: D on February 18, 2014, 09:10:20 PM
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Love that video! Bigotry and genocide don't stop being bigotry and genocide just because you're talking about another species.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 19, 2014, 08:39:34 AM
Love that video! Bigotry and genocide don't stop being bigotry and genocide just because you're talking about another species.
Indeed.  He just earned his 43rd cluon. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 19, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on February 19, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
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Shit.  Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 19, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Shit.  Beat me to it.

I win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 19, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on February 19, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
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Still wondering why Hawk's female. (Hey, not judging...)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 19, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
"To argue against an idea honestly, you should argue against the best arguments of the strongest advocates.  Arguing against weaker advocates proves nothing, because even the strongest idea will attract weak advocates." —Eliezer Yudkowsky
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 20, 2014, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 19, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
Still wondering why Hawk's female. (Hey, not judging...)

Half are female, half are male.  I'm equal opportunity.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 20, 2014, 05:06:08 PM
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i cant wait for this game to come out. Or i guess i can but it will be difficult.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2014, 06:23:24 PM
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Was waiting for this. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on February 20, 2014, 06:25:55 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 20, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Palestinian Foreign Minister in 2011The United States of America's use of the veto to prevent the passage of a UN resolution condemning Israel's settlement policy confirms that it is not an honest broker, and it is no longer able to carry out its responsibilities as a sponsor of any future Palestinian - Israeli negotiations.

This first veto of the administration of President Barack Obama puts the credibility of the sponsor of the peace process in jeopardy, as this administration has chosen to stand in the face of international law and against the international consensus, which sponsored the draft resolution, thereby providing protection for the occupying power, Israel, against international condemnation of its illegal actions in settlement building on occupied Palestinian territory. ...

We see the U.S. veto as encouraging Israel to move forward in the processes of settlement and Judaizing Jerusalem, and the construction of a wall of annexation and expansion. It also provides cover for these egregious violations of international resolutions, and encourages [Israel] to continue to evade its commitment to the peace process and entitlements, and this gives them a certificate of innocence to intentionally sabotage and derail the negotiations. [We] hold the U.S. administration to be fully responsibile for the consequences and repercussions.

Accordingly, we call upon the U.S. administration, if it wishes to restore its credibility, to work to correct its decisions, and quickly take the necessary steps to correct this situation which it has committed against the Palestinian people...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on February 21, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
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I nominate Robert Rubin From Mud2mmo for the silver cluon with this video
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 21, 2014, 02:39:20 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20819_5-disturbing-reasons-not-to-trust-news-from-reporter.html
Alternative title/s:  Why watching the news isn't worth it./5 Ways the government has murdered journalism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 21, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
"I'm not a pacifist, I just don't feel I have to kill anyone to prove it." —R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 21, 2014, 08:51:08 PM
before you ask, no this deosn't belong on fail quotes. you'll see why ;)

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Post by: Dukect45 on February 22, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
"The idea that the State is capable of solving social problems is now viewed with great skepticism – which foretells a coming change. As soon as skepticism is applied to the State, the State falls, since it fails at everything except increasing its power, and so can only survive on propaganda, which relies on unquestioning faith" -- Stefan Molyneux
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 22, 2014, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 21, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
"I'm not a pacifist, I just don't feel I have to kill anyone to prove it." —R. Lee Wrights
ZING! :)
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Post by: BlameThe1st on February 22, 2014, 02:05:22 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on February 22, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
"Bigotted (sic) is also acceptable." What about, "bad spellers"?
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Post by: Dukect45 on February 23, 2014, 10:17:02 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 23, 2014, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on February 23, 2014, 10:17:02 PM
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I'm Ibrahim and I approve this message :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 24, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
I've officially been floored. This is one of the best explanations of treditional left-anarchism I have ever seen.

QuoteNo again, I feel like we are going in circles - all anarchists are against majority rule - you are right that that is a form of rulership. Now direct democracy can be used to make a decision if all involved agree to the process and accept the outcome (for example a group of friends that decides where to eat based on voting - allowing for dissent should someone say "well I can't eat there because of allergies/diet; if they all agree they will just vote between two places and go with the vote, then that is fine, there is no rulership, just a decision making process decided by the majority - the key difference being there is no ENFORCEMENT mechanism if some decide to go against the group decision). As I said before - consensus decision-making and respect of dissent (allowing for refusal to participate in enacting the decision) are key elements to anarchist social interactions.

You don't have to "take up" everything with the community unless it AFFECTS the community, and that is not rulership by the community, that is you not being allowed to be a ruler yourself by making decisions against others will that affects them (for instance if you want to dump your waste in the community water supply - having to get the ok from others who use that water supply is not them ruling over you - you making the decision against their will and to the detriment of their health is you setting yourself up as ruler over them, forcing your decision and its consequences on them. Also, just because you are asked or confronted by others to explain or justify what you are doing doesn't mean they are ruling over you - it just means they are interacting with you and expressing their own concerns. If they start using violence to enforce then ends then I would agree that the community is setting itself up as your ruler, but just to say "we disagree with you forcing them to pay rent, and will not enforce any claims you make about them owing you or needing to be removed" is NOT them ruling over you - in fact it is the exact opposite and simply a declaration that your desires do not trump theirs and you do not rule over them nor can you force them to agree to and enforce your claims.

Your community of nihilists question is simply absurd - you sound like a statist "oh no without laws (or a universal contract, moral code, or set of axioms) everyone (or nihilists) will kill everyone, and that would be ok". Justification is a philosophical concept - they may feel they have justifications, and many others may feel they do not - value is subjective and accepting/rejecting a justification is subjective as well (this is why it is so important to decentralize responses to problems and perceived injustices as much as possible so it is those actually involved figuring out what to do, not some unaffected and undesired third party, or potentially worse, some abstract contract or rule). If people start killing people there will be responses by the community and those who care about the victims or eliminating murder - you don't need some universal moral code for murder to be dealt with.

Also you cast nihilists as some sociopathic belief system but it is simply the belief in skepticism and the notion that any justification has its flaws (relying on some assumption, being circular, or being assumed itself) and therefore that no objective criterion for value or justification is possible. They aren't mass murderers just because they critique the possibility of coming to a universally accepted and valid justification of "murder being wrong" that doesn't rely on subjective assumptions.

From a discussion I was having on the Anarchism without adjectives page.

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Post by: ArtemisVale on February 24, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
Quote from: tnu on February 24, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
I've officially been floored. This is one of the best explanations of treditional left-anarchism I have ever seen.

From a discussion I was having on the Anarchism without adjectives page.

Wouldn't it be easier to call this voluntary community of voters the market?

Just because the majority of a community wants an xbox doesn't mean your stuck with one. You can still get a PC or a wii u if you want.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 25, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
"The worst time to become a parent is eighteen years before a war." —R. Lee Wrights
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Post by: Travis Retriever on February 25, 2014, 07:42:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 25, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
"The worst time to become a parent is eighteen years before a war." —R. Lee Wrights
*standing ovation* Gods, this guy sounds awesome...why in the freakin' hell wasn't he nominated to represent libertarians in the primaries?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 25, 2014, 08:36:07 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 25, 2014, 07:42:46 AM
*standing ovation* Gods, this guy sounds awesome...why in the freakin' hell wasn't he nominated to represent libertarians in the primaries?

Because Gary Johnson's supporters pretty much stormed the place Saturday morning. At the Friday night debate it seemed pretty even judging by the audience reaction, but the next morning there were twice as many people there, and pretty much all the new ones were holding Johnson signs.

And yeah, they all pretty much left after the nomination.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on February 25, 2014, 01:08:53 PM
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Post by: BlameThe1st on February 25, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
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A LeftyCartoon? That I agree with? By the royal holy delectable flank of Princess Celestia, it's a miracle!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 26, 2014, 10:52:46 AM
from the comments of the latest Atheism and Libertarianism video


QuoteI think your points apply well to a certain subset of disingenuous statists and sophisticated theists, but what drives me crazy are the (in my experience far greater number of) people who are just ridiculously selective when it comes to which evidence they decide "matters."

For example, if you told most theists "they did an experiment where people prayed for the people in one hospital and not for the people in another hospital, and guess what? The people in the hospital that was being prayed for recovered at a greater rate!" then their reaction would be "wow! that just goes to show the power of prayer!" In fact, if such a study existed, they'd never shut up about it. But, of course, if the study shows no difference, THEN they deny the very validity of the premise.

Statists, of course, are the same. If you say "guess what, our study shows that government spending actually makes the economy grow faster and decreases income inequality," then they say "wow, that's great! Just goes to show we need more government spending!" If a study shows that government spending hampers economic growth and increases wealth inequality, however, they'll just say "well, let me figure out what's wrong with this study. Who did it, the Cato Institute??" etc. Of course, they would never subject the study that showed results they wanted to hear to the same level of scrutiny.
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Post by: BlameThe1st on February 26, 2014, 11:13:27 PM
Vast Majority Of Democrats Want Hillary Clinton To Run In 2016: Poll (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/26/hillary-clinton-2016-poll_n_4856695.html)

When I read this article, I thought the very first comment in the comment section would be a cringe-worthy circlejerk about how Hilary Clinton is dah bomb, but it turns out that the top-rated comment was actually this gem:

QuoteDemocrats had single-payer advocates dragged out of the HC roundtables and arrested.

Democrats participated on all levels in the crackdowns on the OWS movement.

Democrats have defended continued federal actions against the 'budding' medical marijuana industry and the continuation of the 'war on weed'.

Democrats have embraced corporate and 1% influence over elections.

Democrats have continued the perpetual warfare state.

Democrats have cracked down on whistleblowers and  the free press.

Democrats have embraced the police/surveillance-state and the violations of virtually every American's Fourth Amendment right to unreasonable searches and seizures of their private information.They have defended the practice of giving and sharing raw data on American citizens with the foreign nations of Britain and Israel.

Real liberals don't act like that.

I gave Dems a chance in '08, and they turned into Republicans. Never again....

Nice to know some on the left can see past the illusion of choice that is our two-party duopoly.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 27, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-12/gun-ownership-on-the-rise/3662504
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Post by: ArtemisVale on February 27, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
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Post by: BreadGod on February 28, 2014, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on February 27, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-12/gun-ownership-on-the-rise/3662504
The facts are clear. The Australians want their guns back.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on February 28, 2014, 01:50:26 PM
Quote from: BreadGod on February 28, 2014, 01:37:34 PM
The facts are clear. The Australians want their guns back.

pretty much. The only reason why Australia's homicide rate went down after their gun ban was because it was already dropping prior to their 1996 ban, and it was the continuation of long term trend.  I bet you that if they ban handguns, or try another confiscation, this time the homicide rate really Will go up.

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Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 28, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on February 28, 2014, 01:50:26 PM
pretty much. The only reason why Australia's homicide rate went down after their gun ban was because it was already dropping prior to their 1996 ban, and it was the continuation of long term trend.  I bet you that if they ban handguns, or try another confiscation, this time the homicide rate really Will go up.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around their laws on the matter: Australia where guns are illegal or heavily restricted just doesn't fit with the projected image of Australia...you know, where one of their folk heroes had an epic gunfight with the Police in a hotel?
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Post by: Skm1091 on February 28, 2014, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 28, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around their laws on the matter: Australia where guns are illegal or heavily restricted just doesn't fit with the projected image of Australia...you know, where one of their folk heroes had an epic gunfight with the Police in a hotel?

You mean this guy right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly

And meanwhile right next door in New Zealand they still allow semi auto rifle's and pump action shotguns are legal had even fewer mass shootings than the land down under.

Here's another interesting thing. In Australia from the 1900 up to 1970s. The list of massacres (not including the organized massacres of the indigenous by miners, ranchers, police etc) was only THREE and one of those three was an arson. That a rate of roughly 1 massacre every 25 YEARS. Now in the 2000s up to now there were about three massacres. Some success huh?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 01, 2014, 12:19:17 PM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/Lost-23-pounds-side-effects-and-future-goals-437451121
Shameless plug, I know, but I'm rather proud of myself for this one. :)

Another fav quote I've been meaning to put here: "If you don't practice what you preach, at least have the decency to preach what you practice."--Pat Condell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 01, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 01, 2014, 12:19:17 PM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/Lost-23-pounds-side-effects-and-future-goals-437451121
Shameless plug, I know, but I'm rather proud of myself for this one. :)

Another fav quote I've been meaning to put here: "If you don't practice what you preach, at least have the decency to preach what you practice."--Pat Condell

yeah, you really let yourself go in College. But glad you're turning it around. Keep it up! you'll eventually get there.

yeah, I think everyone gains weight in College: I put on 20 pounds in the 3 years I was in CSU (so from 170 to 190 Lbs: most in the last year)--which I promptly lost while unemployed (i'm about 6 foot tall). after getting employed though I'm back to where I was, and am now trying to contain it. will be riding my bicycle more often: should do it today, as weather is lovely.

One thing that is an (awesome) side effect is that your memory will start getting sharper and faster, as will your ability to think straight. happened when I was unemployed too.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 01, 2014, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 01, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
yeah, you really let yourself go in College. But glad you're turning it around. Keep it up! you'll eventually get there.

yeah, I think everyone gains weight in College: I put on 20 pounds in the 3 years I was in CSU (so from 170 to 190 Lbs: most in the last year)--which I promptly lost while unemployed (i'm about 6 foot tall). after getting employed though I'm back to where I was, and am now trying to contain it. will be riding my bicycle more often: should do it today, as weather is lovely.

One thing that is an (awesome) side effect is that your memory will start getting sharper and faster, as will your ability to think straight. happened when I was unemployed too.
Thanks Ibrahim90. :)  And yeah, I've been told that memory tends to falter as you get more obese.  Which is a shame because I've always been very proud of my long term memory. :'(  And yeah, I'm about 5'9'' for those who are wondering like it says on my DA profile.
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Post by: tnu on March 01, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
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Post by: Skm1091 on March 01, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
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Post by: Skm1091 on March 01, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20927_5-ridiculous-things-media-blamed-video-games-for.html
Stay classy media, stay classy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 02, 2014, 04:34:10 PM
"At the end fiat money returns to its inner value—zero."—Voltaire
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Post by: dallen68 on March 02, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
"According to the research, forcefully confronting any suspected lying only makes children work harder at lying better."

-Lickerman,A (23 Feb 2014) Psychology Today, "Why be Honest"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 02, 2014, 08:03:30 PM
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Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 03, 2014, 05:04:53 AM
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Thank YOU Uncle Sam!
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2014, 08:28:23 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 03, 2014, 05:04:53 AM
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Thank YOU Uncle Sam!
*Standing ovation with cheering and whistling!* :D  You just earned another cluon for that one!
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Post by: ArtemisVale on March 03, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 04, 2014, 12:40:36 PM
W00t! I'm #10!!!

http://www.cracked.com/article_21047_19-images-you-wont-believe-arent-photoshopped-part-13.html?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=Extras&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module
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Post by: AnCap Dave on March 04, 2014, 04:43:54 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on March 03, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
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The image isn't working for some reason. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on March 05, 2014, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
The image isn't working for some reason. :(

Because somebody removed the image from Facebook.
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 05, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
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Post by: AnCap Dave on March 05, 2014, 06:57:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 05, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
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Last line.
"You brag about how you're strong and independent, yet you take alimony payments!  You're accepting/relying on money from a man!"
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Post by: Skm1091 on March 05, 2014, 07:45:19 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on March 05, 2014, 08:01:48 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 05, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
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Last line.

Wow. Men only care about money and toys, and women care more about "spirituality" (whatever that is). Women would choose their children over their cars and men wouldn't. And HE'S supposed to be the sexist one???
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 05, 2014, 08:01:48 PM
Wow. Men only care about money and toys, and women care more about "spirituality" (whatever that is). Women would choose their children over their cars and men wouldn't. And HE'S supposed to be the sexist one???
Mhm.  Why do people think we call them Feminazis?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 06, 2014, 01:51:22 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20905_5-brain-disorders-that-started-as-evolutionary-advantages.html
Between stuff like this, and Shane's comment regarding the Milk drinking = white privilege crap being racial cleansing nonsense, all it does is lead me to believe that the folks decrying diversity--in mind and in body--contrary to what creationist shitstains will tell you are NOT good with biology (read: Evolution by Natural Selection).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on March 06, 2014, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 05, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Mhm.  Why do people think we call them Feminazis?
Because you need to polarise the world into a simple us Vs. them scenario?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on March 07, 2014, 11:50:50 AM
A couple different students brought this debate to my attention and I thought I would pass it along.  This shows the constant danger I warn them about every year: just because you are good at philosophy, doesn't mean that you are good at the intersecting disciplines.  Sadly, I think Craig fell to that hubris.  His idea to use the A Theory of time to prove God's existence took the philosophical and theological schools by storm.  Too bad he took those ideas and took to attacking physics and then to the Internet to preserve his ego, rather than face the criticism of his arguments within the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07QUPuZg05I 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 07, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
QuoteGood: Getting things done. Bad: Doing them at the point of a gun. Excellent: Getting things done through voluntary cooperation. It's the only point I even try to make anymore. I like Gillette's succinct way of putting it.
Stephen Smith on Facebook
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 07, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on March 07, 2014, 11:50:50 AM
A couple different students brought this debate to my attention and I thought I would pass it along.  This shows the constant danger I warn them about every year: just because you are good at philosophy, doesn't mean that you are good at the intersecting disciplines.  Sadly, I think Craig fell to that hubris.  His idea to use the A Theory of time to prove God's existence took the philosophical and theological schools by storm.  Too bad he took those ideas and took to attacking physics and then to the Internet to preserve his ego, rather than face the criticism of his arguments within the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07QUPuZg05I

it's like watching a soldier who is making a good run from the battlefield, and you start to feel that he's entitled to his success, and then, just as he's about to be outside gunfire range, down he goes....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on March 11, 2014, 03:33:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 11, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 13, 2014, 07:00:29 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 13, 2014, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on March 11, 2014, 03:33:16 PM(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbrz6rWBBX1qcu0j0o1_1280.jpg)

Reminds me of a good one I just thought up:

"Social Justice Warriors are the living, breathing, and ideological embodiment of First World Problems at best, and full on racial cleansers at worst."--Me

Note that since the latter is based on the "milk = white privilege" post bogosity & the "men must be mass murdered" insanity from many feminists (even ones in university with tenure IIRC), and thus does not violate the forum rules for defamation (libel/slander) or false accusations of bigotry/racism. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 13, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
*standing ovation!* :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
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Straight to the point, no filler, no nonsense, and very well written and presented. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 15, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
http://evidencemag.com/calories-count/

And all their other articles on this subject--and other subjects as well.

The 1st Law of Thermodynamics:  1
People who keep making bogus excuses like the ones refuted in that article:  0

I can’t be the only person that is disgusted by those hawking Myth #5. Do they honestly not see what massive “F*CK YOU FAKER LULZ!”/sh*t on the graves that is to anyone who has ever starved to death?

Myth #10–Glad to see a rebuttal of that one. :) It’s one Hawkeye kept throwing at me. His response to me? “So crash dieting works?”/”So what doesn’t crash dieting work?” In response to the idea that you need to be in a Caloric Deficit to lose weight, and him saying that, “No you can’t eat less, you’ll be hungry! That’s why dieting can’t work! You have to move your body instead!”  Because clearly someone who's never tried/had to lose weight in his life and has clearly never researched it knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 16, 2014, 06:40:57 AM
Ran across this UK documentary on China:

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It has some fail in it (specifically, claiming that the Chinese need to save less and spend more to balance their economy, instead of the entire problem being that the governments are running almost everything, and the bits it doesn't control are running wild because of government policies).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on March 16, 2014, 12:38:12 PM
(http://samuwell.com/pictures/statism.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2014, 02:32:51 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on March 16, 2014, 12:38:12 PM
(http://samuwell.com/pictures/statism.jpg)

so that's how Hindus and Sikhs pray...always wanted to know.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on March 17, 2014, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 17, 2014, 02:32:51 AM
so that's how Hindus and Sikhs pray...always wanted to know.

I guess this stance is universal :shrug:
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 17, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

Glenn Beck deserves credit for this one. I might not be a brony, in fact I think the whole thing is a little weird, but that doesn't matter. No one has the right to bully others because they don't like what someone else likes.

"We are having a moment of solidarity for a kid who had the balls to be different."

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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 17, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
Quote from: D on March 17, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

Glenn Beck deserves credit for this one. I might not be a brony, in fact I think the whole thing is a little weird, but that doesn't matter. No one has the right to bully others because they don't like what someone else likes.

"We are having a moment of solidarity for a kid who had the balls to be different."

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Ya, I lost my shit when he said a teacher just told him to put it away! WHAT THE FUCK!?!
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Post by: ArtemisVale on March 18, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 18, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/STFU-About-Male-Privilege-441275466
*Standing Ovation!* Someone just earned a +fav of that journal *and* a cluon from me on this board. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 18, 2014, 09:44:12 PM
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Post by: evensgrey on March 19, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: D on March 17, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

Glenn Beck deserves credit for this one. I might not be a brony, in fact I think the whole thing is a little weird, but that doesn't matter. No one has the right to bully others because they don't like what someone else likes.

"We are having a moment of solidarity for a kid who had the balls to be different."

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This is one of those moments when we get a new addition to the list of people you can put in the phrase "You're completely out to lunch when X calls you on your bullshit."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 19, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Speaking of 'privilege'

(http://themoderatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Check-your-Privilege1.jpg)
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Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 19, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-real-diseases-that-have-somehow-become-trendy/
Well said, Christina. :)  I guess the Tumblr SJWs missed that article.
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Post by: Dukect45 on March 20, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
From our own Lord T Hawkeye:
"One of the biggest ironies and my personal fav: For all people's talk about the evil white slavemasters, here's a question for those folks: Who was it who actually first took a moral stand against slavery even while Africa was still largely defending it tooth and nail?"

[in response to being told it was because Lincoln]

"Popular answer but also wrong.  Abe Lincoln was a tyrant who gave not two damns about the plight of slaves.  That was a convenient political excuse for him.

No, the answer was the so called evil white guys.  The British risked life and limb to thwart slave ships.  The abolitionists in the US were almost all white guys.  In fact, look through history at situations where people rose up and opposed tyranny and you always find white guys at the front lines.
Is it any wonder why tyrants and control freaks try so hard to shame white guys into silence?"

EDIT:  Forgot to include the video with the comments:
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(Disclaimer:  I haven't watched it, I'm just posting it here for the sake of completeness.)
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Post by: MrBogosity on March 20, 2014, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
From our own Lord T Hawkeye:
"One of the biggest ironies and my personal fav: For all people's talk about the evil white slavemasters, here's a question for those folks: Who was it who actually first took a moral stand against slavery even while Africa was still largely defending it tooth and nail?"

[in response to being told it was because Lincoln]

"Popular answer but also wrong.  Abe Lincoln was a tyrant who gave not two damns about the plight of slaves.  That was a convenient political excuse for him.

Abraham Lincoln publicly advocated the following Constitutional amendment, known as the Corwin Amendment (proposed by Congress on March 2, 1861, AFTER 7 states had already seceded): "No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

Yep, Lincoln wanted to KEEP SLAVERY PERMANENT, unable to be abolished EVEN BY CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. There's your Great Emancipator, people.

(Interesting footnote: in 1864, a Senate resolution attempted to withdraw the Corwin Amendment. It failed.)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 20, 2014, 05:24:19 PM
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"  First they came for the Atheists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Atheist.

    Then they came for the Gamers, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Gamer.

    Then they came for the Bronies, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Brony.

    Then they came for the Comedians, and I did not speak out--Because I was not a Comedian.

    Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."
--Me, inspired by Martin Niemöller
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 20, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 20, 2014, 04:57:54 PM
Abraham Lincoln publicly advocated the following Constitutional amendment, known as the Corwin Amendment (proposed by Congress on March 2, 1861, AFTER 7 states had already seceded): "No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

Yep, Lincoln wanted to KEEP SLAVERY PERMANENT, unable to be abolished EVEN BY CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. There's your Great Emancipator, people.

(Interesting footnote: in 1864, a Senate resolution attempted to withdraw the Corwin Amendment. It failed.)

I'm fairly sure that even had it been passed, no such Amendment could be effective. All that would be needed is another Amendment repealing it, and the problem goes away.

Lincoln, of course, would never have understood that, but I don't think any president since Jefferson has had any real grasp of Constitutional law.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 20, 2014, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 20, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
I'm fairly sure that even had it been passed, no such Amendment could be effective. All that would be needed is another Amendment repealing it, and the problem goes away.

True, but beside the point. Lincoln was in favor of anything that helped whatever his political goals were at the time. If that meant surrendering on the slavery issue (not that he was a really big opponent before then anyway, the Lincoln-Douglas debates notwithstanding) to keep the union together, he'd do it!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 20, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 20, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
I'm fairly sure that even had it been passed, no such Amendment could be effective. All that would be needed is another Amendment repealing it, and the problem goes away.

Lincoln, of course, would never have understood that, but I don't think any president since Jefferson Madison has had any real grasp of Constitutional law.

give Madison a break: he wrote the document.

I suppose Cleveland came closest, but who remembers him?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on March 21, 2014, 12:09:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 20, 2014, 06:49:17 PM
True, but beside the point. Lincoln was in favor of anything that helped whatever his political goals were at the time. If that meant surrendering on the slavery issue (not that he was a really big opponent before then anyway, the Lincoln-Douglas debates notwithstanding) to keep the union together, he'd do it!

Wasn't he documented as actually saying that if abolishing slavery would keep the Union, he would do that; or if maintaining slavery would keep the Union, he would do that? Or is that just dramatic license?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 21, 2014, 06:10:16 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on March 21, 2014, 12:09:46 AM
Wasn't he documented as actually saying that if abolishing slavery would keep the Union, he would do that; or if maintaining slavery would keep the Union, he would do that? Or is that just dramatic license?

He said things like that on several occasions.
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Post by: Dukect45 on March 21, 2014, 07:31:13 AM
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Some interesting words from the Late Rapper Tupac
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Post by: evensgrey on March 21, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 20, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
give Madison a break: he wrote the document.

I suppose Cleveland came closest, but who remembers him?

Lots of people wrote it, as it was hashed out in a huge committee, and some of them (like Hamilton) misunderstood it on purpose. (Either that, or they lied about it to get it ratified and then claimed it said different things than what they said it meant to get it ratified.)

Lots of people remember Grover Cleveland, but mostly because he had a funny name.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 21, 2014, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 21, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
Lots of people remember Grover Cleveland, but mostly because he had a funny name.

Yes, he's named after a Muppet and a place with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2014, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 21, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
Lots of people remember Grover Cleveland, but mostly because he had a funny name.

And because he's the only president to date who served two non-consecutive terms.  I lolled when I found that out 7-10 years ago, even before I got into politics. n.n
I like his name.  It reminds me of the words "balloon" and "clover" and I like those words.  Especially "balloon" ^.^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
"Actions speak louder than words."--Hawkeye, Stef, me... people with integrity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 21, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
"Actions speak louder than words."--Hawkeye, Stef, me... people with integrity.

"By their fruits shall you know them." —Jesus, in a rare passage from the Bible that is every bit as profound and meaningful as it sounds (and quite ironic, given how it applies to many of its followers).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 21, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
"By their fruits shall you know them." —Jesus, in a rare passage from the Bible that is every bit as profound and meaningful as it sounds (and quite ironic, given how it applies to many of its followers).
That was another good one I thought of adding.   I feel like a dork for not adding it along with my above post, as I had it in my head for weeks.  Thanks for adding it. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2014, 08:56:35 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-insane-ways-companies-are-using-copyrights-to-bully-you/

Double win if he also says copyright laws/IP itself is the problem (yeah, I only read the titles again).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2014, 12:09:30 PM
    "Complexity is easy; simplicity is difficult."

- Georgy Shpagin
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2014, 08:07:55 PM
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Francois Fenelon.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 22, 2014, 10:27:10 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 21, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
"By their fruits shall you know them." —Jesus, in a rare passage from the Bible that is every bit as profound and meaningful as it sounds (and quite ironic, given how it applies to many of its followers).
"You shall reap as you sow."  Another good one. :)
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 02:29:08 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 23, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 02:29:08 AM
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>>Too sexy
No.  Such.  Thing.
Also, how repressed do you have to be to consider COVERED CGI breasts 'porn'?
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Post by: Skm1091 on March 23, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 02:29:08 AM
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applause
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 23, 2014, 10:15:08 AM.
Also, how repressed do you have to be to consider COVERED CGI breasts 'porn'?
A feminist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 23, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
Also, how repressed do you have to be to consider COVERED CGI breasts 'porn'?
A feminist.

You, sir, get one of my extremely rare cluons for that response!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
A feminist.


You, sir, get one of my extremely rare cluons for that response!

I forgot the Hindus who don't know the mythology of their own damn religion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 24, 2014, 08:01:03 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
I forgot the Hindus who don't know the mythology of their own damn religion.

India is going through an extremely puritanical period right now, to the extent that they recently prosecuted two people for kissing on TV.  The fact that the mythology of the majority religion of the country is rife with naked and semi-naked hot gods, goddesses, and heroes of all genders and preferences doesn't enter into it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 24, 2014, 08:05:14 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 24, 2014, 08:01:03 AM
India is going through an extremely puritanical period right now, to the extent that they recently prosecuted two people for kissing on TV.  The fact that the mythology of the majority religion of the country is rife with naked and semi-naked hot gods, goddesses, and heroes of all genders and preferences doesn't enter into it.
Because gods, like governments are always exempt from the rules they create it seems...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on March 24, 2014, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 24, 2014, 08:05:14 AM
Because gods, like governments are always exempt from the rules they create it seems...

Lets get the paint brush, Kali needs a new shirt.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 24, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
"Have you noticed that most of the women who are against abortion are women you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" George Carlin
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 24, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
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True that. :)  It helps I had teachers who didn't suck.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 24, 2014, 05:11:43 PM
"Helen Gallier Ambrose chooses to debate me and says there is ONE good Republican... Ron Paul. Ron Paul, a good Republican? Don't make me laugh! IF Dr. Paul was a 'good' Republican they would have allowed him to speak in Tampa! Ron Paul is a horrible Republican! That's why libertarians like him so well!" —R. Lee Wrights
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 24, 2014, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
I forgot the Hindus who don't know the mythology of their own damn religion.

heck, even Muslims entering the country centuries ago would be shocked (and amused/bemused) by Hindus complaining: every writer I know (Babur included) from the middle ages all say they that not only were they shocked that Hindu gods were anthropomorphic (alone considered blasphemous), but were also bemused by the nudity of the gods.

Babur though was unique in that he was the first to "do something" about it. he "castrated" every male deity's statue he stumbled on (the temples were left to run: they still do). he also defaced the statutes as a whole, but these were since restored.

@ Travis retriever: Hinduism doesn't actually condemn nudity--quite the opposite: which makes this "puritanical" movement all the more puzzling--especially to those who actually know about the religion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 24, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 24, 2014, 07:27:51 PM
Babur though was unique in that he was the first to "do something" about it. he "castrated" every male deity's statue he stumbled on (the temples were left to run: they still do).

That happened to a lot of western statues, too, during the Middle Ages.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on March 25, 2014, 04:14:46 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 25, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 24, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
That happened to a lot of western statues, too, during the Middle Ages.

I was referring to India with the Muslims, but yeah: it seems universal during the middle ages in fact to do this to statues. the Middle ages were....interesting times, to say the least, even in the relatively sophisticated Near east and East Asia of the time.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 25, 2014, 11:07:31 PM
"18. If someone can't explain a topic in simple terms, they don't understand it well enough and probably shouldn't be trusted."--Armi Legge, here:  http://evidencemag.com/health-fitness-lessons/
Well said, man.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on March 27, 2014, 06:48:33 PM
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 27, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
http://imgur.com/r/atheism/Ao208C5  Wraith sent me this.  Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 27, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 27, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
http://imgur.com/r/atheism/Ao208C5  Wraith sent me this.  Very nice indeed.
From MY state? *jawdrop and faints*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 28, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
"Personally, I think the way to end revenge porn is for people to stop caring about it, which I think will be fixed in the next generation. Get those prudish, hypocritical baby-boomers all died off and all sorts of things will get better!"--Shane from this post:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=315.5520#msg24064

They can bitch all about "these terrible kids unable to get jobs today!" but really whose fault is that when they fucked up the economy in the first place and raised those 'lazy kids' to begin with?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 28, 2014, 06:45:23 PM
"[T]he original problem with religion is that it is our first, and our worst, attempt at explanation. It is how we came up with answers before we had any evidence. It belongs to the terrified childhood of our species, before we knew about germs or could account for earthquakes. It belongs to our childhood, too, in the less charming sense of demanding a tyrannical authority: a protective parent who demands compulsory love even as he exacts a tithe of fear. This unalterable and eternal despot is the origin of totalitarianism, and represents the first cringing human attempt to refer all difficult questions to the smoking and forbidding altar of a Big Brother. This of course is why one desires that science and humanism would make faith obsolete, even as one sadly realizes that as long as we remain insecure primates we shall remain very fearful of breaking the chain." —Christopher Hitchens
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 28, 2014, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 28, 2014, 06:45:23 PM
"[T]he original problem with religion is that it is our first, and our worst, attempt at explanation. It is how we came up with answers before we had any evidence. It belongs to the terrified childhood of our species, before we knew about germs or could account for earthquakes. It belongs to our childhood, too, in the less charming sense of demanding a tyrannical authority: a protective parent who demands compulsory love even as he exacts a tithe of fear. This unalterable and eternal despot is the origin of totalitarianism, and represents the first cringing human attempt to refer all difficult questions to the smoking and forbidding altar of a Big Brother. This of course is why one desires that science and humanism would make faith obsolete, even as one sadly realizes that as long as we remain insecure primates we shall remain very fearful of breaking the chain." —Christopher Hitchens
Well said. :)  There's a reason why the church and the state were the same institution for so much of history.  Many forget that religion and government being separated is actually a very new thing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on March 28, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 28, 2014, 06:47:51 PM
Well said. :)  There's a reason why the church and the state were the same institution for so much of history.  Many forget that religion and government being separated is actually a very new thing.

This is exactly why I say to statist who say that there have never been a libertarian or stateless society. I would ask them if would rather live in theocracies, because seperation of church and state is relatively new.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 28, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
"Some people say, 'Well, in Europe, they have socialized medicine! In Europe they have gun control!' Yeah, you know what? In Europe, they have state religions and monarchs! Do we want those, too?" — Tim Slagle
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 29, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on March 29, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
I'm sure most of you will appreciate this new episode of MLP. It deals with quackery and the importance of remaining skeptical. After all, what is homeopathy, acupuncture, and other forms of alternative "medicine" but modern versions of the traveling doctor peddling magical elixirs and tonics?

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 30, 2014, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on March 29, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
I'm sure most of you will appreciate this new episode of MLP. It deals with quackery and the importance of remaining skeptical. After all, what is homeopathy, acupuncture, and other forms of alternative "medicine" but modern versions of the traveling doctor peddling magical elixirs and tonics?

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I can't find the video online, but Book 1 Chapter 14 of Avatar: The Last Airbender, "The Fortuneteller," has some pretty good skepticism in it. The fortuneteller herself is even named "Aunt Wu!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on March 30, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
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Im back guys! if your wondering what happened at the operation aftermath 3, well long story short the legion rules and religion ruins everything xD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: nilecroc on March 31, 2014, 10:27:27 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2014, 06:48:22 PM
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2009/11/22/wisdom-wisecracks/
Especially the second to last quote:
"The better someone’s genetics are [at letting him build muscle], the more of a dumbf#ck he is."

Another good one, especially relating to that "DRINKING MILK IS PRIVILEGE!" bullshit from the SJW:
"Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them.  Go frolick in an organic wheatgrass field and spare us your self-righteous noise."
Yeah, as someone who is (somewhat) lactose intolerant, I approve that quote. :3

The comments Alan Aragon posted are also win.  Case in point:

"Thomas – Waste baskets are those receptacles where spam belongs.

Arthur – I’m somewhat conservative in my stance about tests beyond the more conventional clinical panels, that is, if you have enough cause for concern in the first place. There’s a fine line between assessment-seeking and hypochondria. In my experience, the best foods for the individual are the ones dictated by personal taste preference. I can’t prove this definitively, but I’ve found that people perform best when adhering to their favorite foods strictly on the basis of taste. This leads me to hypothesize that the tastebuds are, in a sense, ‘gate keepers’ to the foods that are best for us individually. This is a primal concept, but I don’t think that high-tech has trumped low-tech in the area of individual nutritional assessment for health or fitness purposes. I think we have a pretty good grasp of what foods to predominate the diet with, and what foods to moderate. Beyond that (& barring allergies or gastric intolerances), let personal taste rule."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 01, 2014, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2014, 06:48:22 PM
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2009/11/22/wisdom-wisecracks/
Arthur – I'm somewhat conservative in my stance about tests beyond the more conventional clinical panels, that is, if you have enough cause for concern in the first place. There's a fine line between assessment-seeking and hypochondria. In my experience, the best foods for the individual are the ones dictated by personal taste preference. I can't prove this definitively, but I've found that people perform best when adhering to their favorite foods strictly on the basis of taste. This leads me to hypothesize that the tastebuds are, in a sense, 'gate keepers' to the foods that are best for us individually. This is a primal concept, but I don't think that high-tech has trumped low-tech in the area of individual nutritional assessment for health or fitness purposes. I think we have a pretty good grasp of what foods to predominate the diet with, and what foods to moderate. Beyond that (& barring allergies or gastric intolerances), let personal taste rule."

There is some scientific evidence for at least some nutrient deficiencies being linked to cravings for particular foods.  Specifically, people with a magnesium deficiency have been noted as often having a chocolate craving, and chocolate turns out to be a very magnesium-rich food.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
The following speaks of Freddie Mercury:  "His voice was too good for us, so god took him someplace where he would be better appreciated."
When I first saw that quote, I HAD to put it here. ^.^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 01, 2014, 02:01:39 PM
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Over/under how many people will still blame the free market when it clearly not the fault of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 02:15:21 PM
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Weird Al was and still IS the shit. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 01, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
The following speaks of Freddie Mercury:  "His voice was too good for us, so god took him someplace where he would be better appreciated."
When I first saw that quote, I HAD to put it here. ^.^

That ranks up there with Don McLean's Vincent: "And when no hope was left in sight / On that starry, starry night / You took your life, as lovers often do / But I could have told you, Vincent / This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you."

How very, very true.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
http://evidencemag.com/south-park/
For showing the good in South Park like that, this one NEEDS to be here. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
http://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2011/06/29/blame_organic_industry_for_e_coli_outbreak_106245.html
Dear Organic foodies--suck it! :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2014, 09:40:20 PM
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/32351_457378190994925_489862034_n.jpg)
I miss George Carlin...
I'd do the same myself if my mom would stop brow-beating me into coming...and waiting outside for 3 freakin' hours to vote.
I would try and salvage the situation by casting a blank ballot, however. ^.^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2014, 12:21:08 AM
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I laughed at this.  I guess I need to "check my privilege." XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 02, 2014, 09:53:05 PM
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Me dispelling myths in my own unique way.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on April 04, 2014, 01:09:36 AM
I just love how the title of this article is phrased:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/86799/scotus-hands-democrats-a-major-win-liberals-start-pulling-their-hair-out

In other words liberals complain about money in politics, when it's their side putting most of the money in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 04, 2014, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on April 04, 2014, 01:09:36 AM
I just love how the title of this article is phrased:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/86799/scotus-hands-democrats-a-major-win-liberals-start-pulling-their-hair-out

In other words liberals complain about money in politics, when it's their side putting most of the money in.
"BUT THOSE LIBERALS WERE JUST THE SPINELESS ONES NOT THE PROGRESSIVE ONES!!!!  NO THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFIERENT FROM THE CONSERVATIVES SAYING THE ONES THEY DON'T LIKE ARE NOT TRUE CONSERVATIVES!"
Yeah, that's the response I usually get.

Just like when I confront the leftist idiots saying Hitler was a right winger and remind the OP of the full name of his political party and get the old, "THE NAME DOESN'T MATTER! THAT'S LIKE SAYING THAT NORTH KOREA IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC!!!!11"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 04, 2014, 12:32:16 PM
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/emotional-pornography/
Amazing. :)
A sample:
"Remember the fundamental law of the sexual market: As the gatekeepers to sex, women get the men they deserve. If women are rewarding assholes and players with sex, then assholes and players are what men will emulate."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on April 04, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Finally! After almost two years, I've finally created another Anti-Libertarians Can't Think video:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 04, 2014, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on April 04, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Finally! After almost two years, I've finally created another Anti-Libertarians Can't Think video:

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I would watch it, but I can't.  Ann Coulter has that effect on me. >.>*
I'm sure you did good though, if the previous videos of that series are any indication. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on April 04, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 04, 2014, 02:57:45 PM
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I would watch it, but I can't.  Ann Coulter has that effect on me. >.>*
I'm sure you did good though, if the previous videos of that series are any indication. :)

I would hope that my witty retorts and media clips would help alleviate that.

And if you think SHE'S intolerable to watch, one of my next targets requires me to drink to watch entirely.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 04, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on April 04, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
I would hope that my witty retorts and media clips would help alleviate that.

And if you think SHE'S intolerable to watch, one of my next targets requires me to drink to watch entirely.
Well to be fair, I *have* had a lot of crap going on irl that's brought it to that point. >.<*  Though yeah, I'll likely get around to watching it, as witty retorts always make bogosity/stupidity easier to stomach. :)  Kinda makes me feel sorry for you for having to watch ALL of that (or at least what you put in the video anyways. :P) without the benefit of that.  Ditto for your next target.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 04, 2014, 03:50:58 PM
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This is me trying out for a pathfinder game. I was a bit nervous but I had some good moments.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
From Paul Elam in (rough) descending order of total awesomeness:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
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Another one from Paul Elam.  As Hawkeye said about this one:
"The video on the myth of female oppression is a good watch too.  Though it kinda misses the bigger point.  Even if the myth were true, even if every single thing feminists say about the history of women were true, it would not matter.  At all.  Guilt is not hereditary folks.  Deal with it."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 12:34:45 PM
Me to Hawkeye in AIM last night:

"A thought of mine.
Even if we give the SJWs the point on women being more likely to be raped (which, given the social pressures men face--much like depression--makes the whole idea seem iffy at best), there's still the fact that:
Woman who is raped: TONS of support, love, sympathy, programs, hugs, and so on from others.
Man who is raped: Laughed at, called a sissy, has jokes made about him involving dropping the soap, and otherwise swept under the rug.
Woman who falsely accuses a man of rape: No negative consequences.
Man who is falsely accused of rape: Even if found 100% innocent will have the shit beaten out of him and will likely have his life ruined even if a lynch mob doesn't end it.
And then of course there's the obvious *real* 'rape culture' they always avoid/laugh at: PRISON and war prisoners...with the guards and soldiers respectively apparently doing most of the rape/sexual abuse...especially when it's a juvenile prison (as D provided a source for-- http://www.justdetention.org/en/jdinews/2013/10_07_13.aspx )."

As D pointed out when he linked me that study:
"'The new studies confirm previous findings that most of those who commit sexual abuse in detention are corrections staff, not inmates. That is true in all types of detention facilities, but especially in juvenile facilities.'
That's right GovCo is raping children."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
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Fucking Win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 01:07:05 PM
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One HUGE fail.  No Thunderf00t, it was NOT Palin.  It was the universities.  Has he not seen the Woman's Studies and other bullshit?  Oh wait, he's on university payroll, so of course they don't count.  Shill.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-dismissive-arguments-that-you-only-use-when-youre-wrong/
Going by the titles alone, I can't help but smell bullshit on #2.

Dear obese people,

Please stop humiliating yourselves by taking scooters meant for disabled people.

Sincerely,

A fellow fatass.

PS:  If you *do* have a real disability that merits the use of one of those carts, but also just happen to be fat while using one of them, then disregard.  The above doesn't apply to you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
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"Two young women in Maryland have admitted to torturing a 16 year old mentally disabled boy over a period of months, including putting a knife to his throat on several occasions, kicking him in the groin, forcing him to masturbate and have sex with animals, making him walk across a frozen pond where he fell into the icy water several times, dragging him around by his hair and other acts which they reportedly recorded on camera phones."
What the fuck...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 05, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
[yt]REYA8ZD0i1o[/yt]
"Two young women in Maryland have admitted to torturing a 16 year old mentally disabled boy over a period of months, including putting a knife to his throat on several occasions, kicking him in the groin, forcing him to masturbate and have sex with animals, making him walk across a frozen pond where he fell into the icy water several times, dragging him around by his hair and other acts which they reportedly recorded on camera phones."
What the fuck...

I'm sorry? How exactly does this qualify as a "fav quote"?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 05, 2014, 09:10:21 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
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"Two young women in Maryland have admitted to torturing a 16 year old mentally disabled boy over a period of months, including putting a knife to his throat on several occasions, kicking him in the groin, forcing him to masturbate and have sex with animals, making him walk across a frozen pond where he fell into the icy water several times, dragging him around by his hair and other acts which they reportedly recorded on camera phones."
What the fuck...

Well, how quickly will this get ignored by feminist?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 05, 2014, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on April 05, 2014, 09:10:21 PM
Well, how quickly will this get ignored by feminist?

I can see this now. The feminists will say that since these (word for girls that starts with b and ends with itches) "didn't have a gun to his head" he voluntarily let them kick him in the balls, voluntarily masturbated, voluntarily had sex with animals, and voluntarily walked across the pond. You know, because you can SO defend yourself against a knife, with say your hand.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 06, 2014, 01:52:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Dear obese people,

Please stop humiliating yourselves by taking scooters meant for disabled people.

Sincerely,

A fellow fatass.

THANK YOU!!! I HATED that during that year-and-a-half-or-so I was disabled after an accident. I couldn't find a handicapped parking space because NC would give the placards to people who were just too fat and didn't want to walk far; they could walk, they weren't hobbling around with a walker or a quad-cane like I was. They'd get in those carts out of pure laziness and I had to either wait for one to come available or painfully inch my way through the store getting what I needed.

Obesity IS NOT A DISABILITY. And I'm sorry, but maybe society shunning them might do a bit of good!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: tnu on April 06, 2014, 01:52:37 AM
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Trust me, if she's a good woman and not a complete gold-digger, she'll be happy with a $20 ring with her birthstone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 05, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I'm sorry? How exactly does this qualify as a "fav quote"?
Because he was bringing attention to something that the rest of the media either ignored (I'd have heard about this from my parents as much as they watch the news, etc), or simply made excuses for the women for ("Wah! The mother, not the child was the victim!"). 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 06, 2014, 12:28:01 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on April 04, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
I would hope that my witty retorts and media clips would help alleviate that.

And if you think SHE'S intolerable to watch, one of my next targets requires me to drink to watch entirely.
You mean you found someone worse than Zonation?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on April 06, 2014, 12:28:01 PM
You mean you found someone worse than Zonation?
*HHIIIIISSS!* No, You fool! We are not to speak of that..abomination here!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
*HHIIIIISSS!* No, You fool! We are not to speak of that..abomination here!

I feel exactly like squidward here when I watch or hear of him
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
*HHIIIIISSS!* No, You fool! We are not to speak of that..abomination here!

The Zobamination?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
The Zobamination?
Yes.  Yes indeed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 07, 2014, 12:28:05 PM
http://benswann.com/anarchists-demand-3-billion-from-google/

Win at the end
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on April 07, 2014, 12:28:05 PM
http://benswann.com/anarchists-demand-3-billion-from-google/

Win at the end
The ending is the cherry and icing, the fact that it was the anti-capitalist 'anarchists' is the cake.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 07, 2014, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
The ending is the cherry and icing, the fact that it was the anti-capitalist 'anarchists' is the cake.

Hey! You are not an anarchist because you call yourself one you Ayncap. Real anarchist demand things from people for imaginary crimes because we skipped Econ 101. Get with the program.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 07, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on April 07, 2014, 12:28:05 PM
http://benswann.com/anarchists-demand-3-billion-from-google/

Win at the end

Apparently, Kevin Rose went out to talk with them and they took video of him, and he was like, "You know you're taking that video on an Android phone, right?" Then he asked them where they were going to upload it, and they said, "YouTube." And he was like, "Do you not get the irony here?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 07, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Apparently, Kevin Rose went out to talk with them and they took video of him, and he was like, "You know you're taking that video on an Android phone, right?" Then he asked them where they were going to upload it, and they said, "YouTube." And he was like, "Do you not get the irony here?"
I guess when they say 3 billion or whatever they mean 3 billion worth of free shit for themselves from Google...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 07, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 07, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
I guess when they say 3 billion or whatever they mean 3 billion worth of free shit for themselves from Google...

You mean apart from all the free shit Google already gives us? Okay, I haven't done an analysis of the value of any of that stuff... but still.

Anyway, on to the article.

Wouldn't Rose investing in these tech companies, having them move to the bay area, and drawing talent to NorCal actually increase opportunities for these service workers? You know, because now there's more people that can actually afford to dine out, go to the club, watch movies (in the actual theatre] and stay in the hotel?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 07, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 07, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
You mean apart from all the free shit Google already gives us? Okay, I haven't done an analysis of the value of any of that stuff... but still.

Anyway, on to the article.

Wouldn't Rose investing in these tech companies, having them move to the bay area, and drawing talent to NorCal actually increase opportunities for these service workers? You know, because now there's more people that can actually afford to dine out, go to the club, watch movies (in the actual theatre] and stay in the hotel?

The problem is, the city has enormous restrictions on new home construction. That's what's driving rents up. So naturally the people who move there are going to be the ones who can afford it! But they look and see rich people moving in and think they're taking their housing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 07, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
Thanks Michelle Obama

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/05/students-fed-up-with-michelle-obamas-school-lunch-overhaul-menu-item-snapshots-spell-out-why/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 07, 2014, 04:54:47 PM
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/p403x403/1904061_779656762061995_654849418_n.png)

the first four panels is from the shit ancaps say fb page. the rest is a retort by anarchyball.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 08, 2014, 12:50:09 PM
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Adams back
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 08, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 08, 2014, 08:00:58 PM
http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/04/08/top-10-reasons-libertarians-arent-nice/
Well said. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 09, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/1604919_10153720641325501_642395332_n.jpg)
Quoted for Truth.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 10, 2014, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
(http://macromeme.com/cat/1604919_10153720641325501_642395332_n.jpg)
Quoted for Truth.

That picture would also work for the anti-war Left, before and after Obama.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 10, 2014, 12:14:09 PM
"It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent people can show such disdain for correction. It is astounding how the mind can pull off psychological gymnastics that allow us to believe what we say without any sense of accounting for it."

(From the documentary I'm working on, the one I went to shoot the other week.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 10, 2014, 11:41:44 AM
That picture would also work for the anti-war Left, before and after Obama.
Indeed. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 10, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Also from the documentary: "We have become a society of spin doctors who manipulate language anytime it suits our needs. Nowadays you can agree to disagree about subject matter that you know absolutely nothing about. Being smoothly smug is now considered civil--never mind the notion of genuine courtesy that comes with the willingness to be wrong. We begin and end our discussions believing that we're right--shunning the discipline it takes to be CORRECT."

I think you guys are gonna LOVE it!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 10, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Also from the documentary: "We have become a society of spin doctors who manipulate language anytime it suits our needs. Nowadays you can agree to disagree about subject matter that you know absolutely nothing about. Being smoothly smug is now considered civil--never mind the notion of genuine courtesy that comes with the willingness to be wrong. We begin and end our discussions believing that we're right--shunning the discipline it takes to be CORRECT."

I think you guys are gonna LOVE it!
I know I am. :D Finally, a documentary that doesn't have its head up its ass like these six:  http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html
Kind of a shame that charter schools are even worse than public schools, but if the free market in education before the government started shoe-horning itself in during the very end of the 19th century was any indicator (back when the country had a world class educational system), I suspect that's not the whole story.

And yeah, SO glad to see you call out the whining we get from statists and from the religious of, "WAAAAAHHH! WHY CAN'T YOU BE CIVIL/NICE/STOP BEING MEANIE HEADS!!"  Between that and the claims of us "lacking empathy" as men from feminists/SJWs I think someone needs to introduce them to dictionary.com.  I mean, good lord. "Civil/Civility" and "empathy" are two of the most devalued/misused non-political words there are.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 02:23:14 PM
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Oh wow...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
https://mises.org/daily/5099
I actually downloaded the video he's talking about.  I have it in a folder titled, "So bad they're good." True fact. 

http://bastiat.mises.org/2012/12/hayek-social-justice-is-a-meaningless-conception/
Well said, F.A. Hayek. :)

Also, I checked, and apparently...Social Justice Day (Yes, this is a thing) is on my birthday, Febraury, 20th.  Fucking hell. T_T  That is an insult to me and others born on that day if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 10, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/04/02/anarcho-capitalism-storm-clouds-gathering-wrong/

Love it, except when he dismisses molyneux's insights on peaceful parenting, even though the studies show that children who are spanked more tend to have lower IQs and be more aggressive. You can't argue with science Chris.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 10, 2014, 09:58:44 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on April 10, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/04/02/anarcho-capitalism-storm-clouds-gathering-wrong/

Love it, except when he dismisses molyneux's insights on peaceful parenting, even though the studies show that children who are spanked more tend to have lower IQs and be more aggressive. You can't argue with science Chris.
Indeed.  And let's be honest here, it's better to focus on what you CAN control and change.  Like how you raise your kids.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 10, 2014, 10:22:32 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on April 10, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/04/02/anarcho-capitalism-storm-clouds-gathering-wrong/

Love it, except when he dismisses molyneux's insights on peaceful parenting, even though the studies show that children who are spanked more tend to have lower IQs and be more aggressive. You can't argue with science Chris.

I'd be curious about the IQ of the parents in the studies, whether that was looked at. Hypothesis: Parents who have below average IQ scores should tend to find parenting especially challenging, and tend to spank more than more intelligent parents. They will also have a tendency for more aggressive behaviors in general, due to frustration. They will tend to pass the lower IQ, along with the frustration of having to struggle to meet basic challenges, along with the aggression that goes with said frustration, to their children. The spanking is just a symptom.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 10, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 10, 2014, 10:22:32 PM
I'd be curious about the IQ of the parents in the studies, whether that was looked at. Hypothesis: Parents who have below average IQ scores should tend to find parenting especially challenging, and tend to spank more than more intelligent parents. They will also have a tendency for more aggressive behaviors in general, due to frustration. They will tend to pass the lower IQ, along with the frustration of having to struggle to meet basic challenges, along with the aggression that goes with said frustration, to their children. The spanking is just a symptom.

And the cure is to try to teach peaceful parenting to these parents. I would look in stef's bomb in the brain videos to get a better idea of the subject.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 11, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
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if we were to do a community rp, i would be inclined to reccomend this game. That, or the radiance rpg with its virtues of simplicity and the core rulebook being free.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 12, 2014, 04:53:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 12, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/organic-industry-has-been-fibbing-all-along
>>Organic food being just another marketing techinque
I hate to say I told them so...but I DID tell them so!!!

"And Winter and Davis concluded that
'it is premature to conclude that either food system is superior with respect to safety or nutrition.'"
Well, unless you count the e coli being 8x as likely from organic food...

I mean, really statists?  Your precious govco can't even figure out/go after the obvious crooks and yet they're supposed to protect you from criminal masterminds?  Gullible infants...

I also e-mailed the article to my mom, consequences be damned.

Of course it's just a marketing campaign to blast their rivals--the GMOs and the irradiated food.  Color me fucking surprised!
Folks, GMOs are NOT a new thing.  And when done the way they are now, it's even faster and less haphazard.  And considering the proven benefits--Norman Borlaug saving over a billion people from starvation from just a single GM crop--you simply cannot argue against GMOs and be on the side of good.  End of.

"Organic farming is not “bad,” although it is indeed more profitable. It preserves the soil and allows more sustainable farming, often using biological controls to minimize pesticides"
I have my doubts about even that tbh.  Even if that is true, it still doesn't change the fact that if we switched to organic farming as a world, over 3 billion people would die of starvation.
And because of how expensive it is, it implies from economics it uses even more resources (basic economics--cost and amount of resources are proportional). soo....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 12, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
There's nothing about this that isn't win:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2014, 10:00:44 AM
I don't remember if I posted this before; apologies if it's a duplicate.

On Quora, the question was asked: "If Jesus's existence is claimed to be a fact and so are his supposed miracles, why do you, as an atheist, still choose not to believe in him?"

Christine Johal's answer is full of win: http://www.quora.com/Jesus/If-Jesuss-existence-is-claimed-to-be-a-fact-and-so-are-his-supposed-miracles-why-do-you-as-an-atheist-still-choose-not-to-believe-in-him/answer/Christine-Johal?srid=ijLg&share=1

My favorite bit: "I did not become an atheist due to lack of information but due to an excess of it. It has been a long, thought-out journey."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2014, 12:33:28 PM
Another win from the documentary:

QuoteAmerica has gone totally off the rails in its worship of the wildly undeserving, and that includes the so-called Rock Star running the show right now. Intellectually honest discussion was not on Obama's mind when injected his imaginary son into the Trayvon tale—pening the floodgates for folly. An honorable leader would have withheld commentary until after the trial. And in the event of unrest, the President would educate the nation instead of pandering to it. How I would love to look upon a leader who has the guts to inspire intellectual inquiry when it comes at a price. THAT...would be some change to believe in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 14, 2014, 01:07:45 PM
Heres to all statists who use the nuke argument

http://voluntaryistreader.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/nuclear-weapons-in-libertarianism/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 14, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 14, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on April 14, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
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I don't get it
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Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on April 14, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
Great bit from The Skeptical Libertarian

QuoteMany of my professional musician/artist friends tend to lean left when it comes to economics. They will talk about how a business isn't a person and how money isn't speech etc. This all while enjoying the luxuries of a fairly unregulated enterprise where their creativity isn't stifled.

So for fun I thought about what it would be like if starting a band was like starting a small business:

1. First you have to find practice space. You better make sure the practice space is commercially zoned. This will greatly increase the value of the property thus inflating the rent to about 3-4 times more than what it costs to rent a non-commercial property of that size

2. Get a band license. These typically run about 60,000 dollars and are limited.

To get one, first you have to apply. Then you have to post in public your intention of purchasing a band license, allowing neighbors to anonymously object to said purchase. After that you have to go to a zoning hearing with your neighbors and state your case. This includes what type of band, when you will be playing and the type of music.

The zoning board and the community agree that heavy metal is not good for the neighborhood and that if you want a band it can only have three members and it has to be country.

3. Once your band license is approved and purchased, it's time for each member of the band to get certified in music safety. This costs $100 dollars a member and must be retaken every two years. Once you receive it, it must be displayed at by your band at all times.

4. Now your band is required by law to purchase various types of insurance. This costs thousands of dollars a year.

5. Once this is done, now you have to be approved by the band inspector.

He tells that you can only use Ernie Ball guitar strings and they have to be replaced every two months and that every band member must wear safety gloves when they play. You also have to buy these items from state sanctioned distributers and you cannot purchase over state lines.

6. You also learn that you may be liable for any damages done by individuals to either themselves or others, as a result of experiencing your music.

7. Every band member must be over 18 and be an American citizen or possess a work vista. All their information must also be submitted to the Department of Homeland Security. - b
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 14, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 14, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
I don't get it

Its just saying how DC comics took a character that most young females can look up to and turned her into a slut 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on April 14, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
2. Get a band license. These typically run about 60,000 dollars and are limited.

And you have to get one from a competing band.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 14, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
Fucking win. Nancy Grace is a piece of shit.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 06:16:28 AM
Quote from: D on April 14, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
Fucking win. Nancy Grace is a piece of shit.

(http://botchedspot.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/04/2014-04-14-warrior-grace.jpg)

I remember her being lambasted on Boston Legal. The character's name was actually Gracie Jane, but everyone knew who she was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 15, 2014, 08:03:08 AM
Quote from: Dukect45 on April 14, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Its just saying how DC comics took a character that most young females can look up to and turned her into a slut

And they did it by pasting over a bunch of stuff that sounds like they copied it from Marvel's Carol Danvers.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 15, 2014, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: Dukect45 on April 14, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Its just saying how DC comics took a character that most young females can look up to and turned her into a slut

The tragic thing, whenever you see huge, often dumb, changes like this, it's almost always due to an editorial mandate.

Which is just further evidence that EDITORS ARE NOT WRITERS AND NEED TO STOP PRETENDING THEY ARE!!  Ugh...

And people ask me why I don't send my comic to a publisher.  And have it get THAT kind of treatment?  Never!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
sometimes, it's the writer too though: just look at Frank Miller's career.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 15, 2014, 11:15:37 AM
And people ask me why I don't send my comic to a publisher.  And have it get THAT kind of treatment?  Never!

Some are better than others. Top Cow, from what I've heard, is very good about giving writers freedom. Of course, it was founded by a disgruntled comic writer and a disgruntled comic artist...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 15, 2014, 02:50:29 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 16, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 16, 2014, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: D on April 16, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
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I've always said this: Turning a border fence into the Berlin Wall is as easy as telling the guards to turn around.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 16, 2014, 02:58:55 PM
I've always said this: Turning a border fence into the Berlin Wall is as easy as telling the guards to turn around.
True that.
"If you don't like it here you're free to leave!....except we will still grope you at the airport...and you don't go south to Mexico..."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on April 17, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
True that.
"If you don't like it here you're free to leave!....except we will still grope you at the airport...and you don't go south to Mexico..."

Isn't the US Canadian Border even more porous than the US Mexico border?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 17, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
Isn't the US Canadian Border even more porous than the US Mexico border?

Yeah, but there are hardly any brown people on the other side so who cares?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 17, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 17, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Yeah, but there are hardly any brown people on the other side so who cares?

One of the fun things about all these deportations of Mexicans is that it's ALSO taking jobs out of the US (and Canada, for that matter).

Call center operators are setting up shop in Mexican cities were substantial numbers of such deportees go so that they can take advantage of their English skills at Mexican wages and regulatory standards.  This is taking away from the pool of such jobs that used to get exported to Canada.  (I did that for about 9 years.  Much better than what I'm doing now.  It was indoors, sitting down, with no heavy lifting, and had better pay and benefits.  The only bad part was when I worked for Dell, possibly the most corrupt and incompetently managed company still afloat, although still falling further into the abyss that awaits any company which decides to pursue a new business model that consists of selling garbage to morons.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 17, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
One of the fun things about all these deportations of Mexicans is that it's ALSO taking jobs out of the US (and Canada, for that matter).

Call center operators are setting up shop in Mexican cities were substantial numbers of such deportees go so that they can take advantage of their English skills at Mexican wages and regulatory standards.  This is taking away from the pool of such jobs that used to get exported to Canada.  (I did that for about 9 years.  Much better than what I'm doing now.  It was indoors, sitting down, with no heavy lifting, and had better pay and benefits.  The only bad part was when I worked for Dell, possibly the most corrupt and incompetently managed company still afloat, although still falling further into the abyss that awaits any company which decides to pursue a new business model that consists of selling garbage to morons.)

I've actually been more impressed with Dell in the past few years; the quality of their hardware seems to have risen dramatically.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 17, 2014, 03:10:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 17, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-recent-trends-that-make-it-hard-to-trust-police-part-2/
The only fail I noticed was the word "recent" in the title.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 18, 2014, 07:00:50 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 17, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
I've actually been more impressed with Dell in the past few years; the quality of their hardware seems to have risen dramatically.

Rather hard to do anything but get better.  Back when I was there, we had premium notebook computer with warping cases, and warping motherboards, and flaky Bluetooth that couldn't reliably connect up the detachable keyboard.  And that's only the stupidest problems with three models.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 18, 2014, 07:00:50 AM
Rather hard to do anything but get better.  Back when I was there, we had premium notebook computer with warping cases, and warping motherboards, and flaky Bluetooth that couldn't reliably connect up the detachable keyboard.  And that's only the stupidest problems with three models.

At least they weren't Packard-Bell bad...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 18, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 18, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
At least they weren't Packard-Bell bad...

The worst thing about Packard-Bells was their non-standard parts.  Dells are famous for having a lot of those, too, especially for having a completely different meaning for BTX motherboards, which includes power supplies with non-standard motherboard connectors.  Oh, and it put the power supply on the BOTTOM of the case, where heat could come up into the main chassis space and not get pulled out by the PSU fans, and put the opening panel on the opposite side of the case from everyone else.

Oh, then there was the top-of-the-line desktop case that was not only designed to not open like a proper case, when you did open it it pulled the hard drive cables just enough to disconnect from the pins, but not enough to actually be visibly loose.  The replacement model didn't do that, but did need new logic in the dispatch system to tell the service provider when OSHA regs required them to send two techs to fix it (since it could be configured to over 50 lbs, which means regs call for two people to lift it), BUT there was no more money for the warranty when it was a two-person job than a single person job.

When I was there, Del was systematically replacing their mid-level execs with people with no experience on a regular basis, because they could be paid less.  They had this delusion that you could reduce costs by pressuring every unit to cut their own costs as much as possible, not understanding that cheap parts makes manufacturing cheaper, but warranty support more expensive.  When they cleared out of my city, the place the work went to had the primary goal of sending out a minimum dollar value of replacement parts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2014, 10:09:25 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 18, 2014, 08:24:02 AMOh, and it put the power supply on the BOTTOM of the case, where heat could come up into the main chassis space and not get pulled out by the PSU fans

I'm seeing that more and more. CoolerMaster's been doing that, and it actually seems to make things cooler, oddly enough. Of course, as their brand name implies they design the entire case with that in mind.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on April 18, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 18, 2014, 10:09:25 AM
I'm seeing that more and more. CoolerMaster's been doing that, and it actually seems to make things cooler, oddly enough. Of course, as their brand name implies they design the entire case with that in mind.

It is actually better for the PSU and the computer to be at the bottom.  Because the PSU is ingesting cooler air, it stays cooler itself.  This provides all sorts of benefits, including longevity and more even power conversion.  Second, if done properly, it creates an airflow across the bottom of the case that can help keep your disks cool.  However, if you do have the PSU at the bottom, you really should have a secondary fan at the top of the case as well, to keep the heat from pooling there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 18, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on April 18, 2014, 11:13:15 AMHowever, if you do have the PSU at the bottom, you really should have a secondary fan at the top of the case as well, to keep the heat from pooling there.

My current production machine didn't have that when I bought it, and it was loud and ran hot. One $6 CoolerMaster fan (with the cool blue LEDs) later, it's cool and quiet!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 19, 2014, 11:41:30 PM
http://www.simplyshredded.com/qa-with-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon-milk.html
Alan Aragon does it again. :)
To add against the paleo stuff, there's the fact that humans have done this thing called EVOLVING for the past 1/4 of a million or whatever years since the Paleo times.  The ability to digest cow milk being one of those things.  So even if Paleo diet advocates were correct about what humans ate during that time, it's still irrelevant.

And as Shane said in response to that "DRINKING MILK IS WHITE PRIVILEGE" super fail:
"Our ancestors did LOTS of mutating: lactose tolerance, CCR5-Δ32, extended color vision, HbC...and it's all while they were doing this little thing called 'evolving!'"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 21, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 21, 2014, 09:52:08 PM
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nice, though i kinda cringe when they use property rights like its a dirty word.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 22, 2014, 09:58:15 AM
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This is a damn good cover.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on April 22, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
This is a great explanation of a particular the problem with the kalam cosmological argument in the face of modern physics.  I think I will use it in future classes because the natural reaction, as the comments to the video show, of apologetics is to counter with one of the other four causes, which I think would be a modified form of Aquinas's sustaining cosmological argument, in most cases.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 22, 2014, 02:27:00 PM
http://muscleandbrawn.com/biggest-bodybuilding-arms/
:)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on April 22, 2014, 05:31:34 PM
"I was a smuggler, not a pirate. A pirate actively steals from lords and traders. A smuggler just wants to sell cargo without having to pay some lord for permission first/"

-Ser Davos Seaworth
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 22, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2014, 08:07:16 AM
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Glove and Boots are made of win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 23, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
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Gabriel Iglesias being full of win
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 23, 2014, 10:36:45 PM
Quote from: D on April 22, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
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fucking juice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 24, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 25, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
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I approve or Uruguay's move here. however, I'm still worried about how people are perceiving the issue.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/an-objective-comparison-of-chocolate-milk-and-surge-recovery.html
^.^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 26, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 26, 2014, 11:46:10 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ItsJustTheAndrew/posts/10154051121320237?comment_id=10154054714720237&offset=0&total_comments=17&notif_t=share_reply

So now this is the strategy they're going with.  Bundy is supposedly a racist so that makes it okay to threaten his family, shoot his cattle and try to steal his land.

And get a load of the gas bag I have a little scuffle with in the comments.  Neo-libertarian?  Can you say "I saw it posted once and thought it would make me look smart"?

(apologies, this was supposed to go in fail quote)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2014, 11:33:47 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21101_5-shocking-human-rights-abuses-you-dont-expect-to-see-today.html
And yet these are the same governments people expect to free them/protect them from bigots/racists/etc? Those gullible infants.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on April 29, 2014, 03:03:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 29, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
As told by megatron's sister.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 01, 2014, 10:09:13 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-complaints-about-modern-teens-that-are-statistically-bs/
True.  That.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 01, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 01, 2014, 10:09:13 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-complaints-about-modern-teens-that-are-statistically-bs/
True.  That.

Pretty much the same thing the previous generation said about mine when we were teens. #3 I think is universal through time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 01, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
from the ancapbrony page at fb. Commies be hating and this guy puts them down.

QuoteWhoa, whoa, whoa, 何もない用事. That's a 15 yard personal foul.

"You continue to laugh at all the people who enhance your wealth for the sake of getting by."?!

"Enhance wealth"? You cannot create wealth without benefitting other people. Every voluntary transaction takes place because BOTH sides benefit. Otherwise, the transaction wouldn't have taken place. People will not voluntarily take part in a transaction they believe to be harmful.

For example, if I have money but no food, I will benefit from trading my money for food. And the farmer who has food will benefit from trading his food for my money. We have both benefitted. It's not a one way road.

But then along comes a class baiter and all they see is money. They ignore the fact that food was traded to get that money. Yes, that food might be gone now, having been eaten. But it provided a benefit nonetheless.

And whether the farmer decides to save the money for the future, or spend it, it's the same decision his customer makes when they decide to save the food or eat it.

So when someone complains about the wealth that farmer saved up, they are forgetting about the other side of the transactions in which the farmer gave away food. The farmer has "enhanced" the wealth of his customer just as much as the customer has enhanced the wealth of the farmer.

P.S. Nobody masturbates to Rothbard. We prefer Ayn Rand. She is seriously hot.

Quotehen why do they work in menial jobs or shithole factories? Because it BENEFITS them more than sitting at home and not working. And in the process they make money and gain experience. Those are both benefits to THEM, even though you believe they aren't. Did you know that poverty in Asia has fallen something like 90% since the 1970s? The reason it has fallen is because globalization has created hundreds of millions of jobs. YOU might not like these jobs, but trust me, for millions of people they're a godsend. Because before globalization, people were starving. Now they're not. So put yourself in someone else's shoes before you decide to tell them what's best for them and their families.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2014, 10:25:41 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21091_5-bullshit-facts-everyone-believes-about-wwii.html
Interesting.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
"I wish being stupid was painful."--an internet meme/post Hawkeye once found
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 02, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
"I wish being stupid was painful."--an internet meme/post Hawkeye once found

It used to not just be painful, but frequently fatal.  Now it generally requires particularly extreme forms to be fatal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 03, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
A video reviewer that doesn't swear and have very cool insight and knowledge about what he's talking about and its not Extra Credits or Game theory what madness is this 

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
"Statistical tests form the basis of all scientific results. If you have no knowledge of statistics, you can’t properly interpret research. Statistical illiteracy is the 21st century’s equivalent of the inability to read and write."--Menno Henselmans, source here: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/powerful-stats/ for full context.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 03, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
"tatistical tests form the basis of all scientific results. If you have no knowledge of statistics, you can’t properly interpret research...  tatistical illiteracy is the 21st century’s equivalent of the inability to read and write."--Menno Henselmans, source here: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/powerful-stats/ for full context.

Why the strikethrough?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2014, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 03, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Why the strikethrough?
Fixed.  Thanks.
Because I forgot to proofread/preview my post and I forgot that adding a [ S ] without the spaces (like used to show a replacement in a sentence when quoting someone) was a strikeout. >.<*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 03, 2014, 11:53:22 AM
Ah yes, that would do it.

Unrelated, this is a Fav:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 03, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 03, 2014, 11:53:22 AM
Ah yes, that would do it.

Unrelated, this is a Fav:

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Oh...my god! That is win! XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 03, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
OK...

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on May 04, 2014, 02:32:19 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 01, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
Pretty much the same thing the previous generation said about mine when we were teens. #3 I think is universal through time.

For all that, isn't it amazing we're the most prosperous generation (so far) in history, Shane? I mean, people in our generation are supposed to be stoners and loafers and not work and... whatever else they said.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 04, 2014, 03:02:15 AM
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Shane, you need to talk about this. if we can help get more and more people to hear this, and enough people found it, then Obama is finished.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 08:56:24 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on May 04, 2014, 02:32:19 AM
For all that, isn't it amazing we're the most prosperous generation (so far) in history, Shane? I mean, people in our generation are supposed to be stoners and loafers and not work and... whatever else they said.

Actually, that was the generation before mine, and my generation is the first to NOT be as well off as our parents. They spent themselves into debt in the '80s and passed that debt on to us. And we're STILL paying the economic price of that, as these same boomers begin to retire and get Social Security despite the fact that they're the richest age demographic in the country!
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Post by: AnCap Dave on May 04, 2014, 08:59:41 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 04, 2014, 03:02:15 AM
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Shane, you need to talk about this. if we can help get more and more people to hear this, and enough people found it, then Obama is finished.

If Obama can get away with killing a 16 year old American without people even batting an eyelash, blatantly lying about raising taxes by calling it a fine, only for the courts to say "it's a tax" and people still cheer, and continue with foreign wars that he promised he would end, this sure as hell isn't going to ruin him.
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Quote from: D on May 04, 2014, 08:59:41 AM
If Obama can get away with killing a 16 year old American without people even batting an eyelash, blatantly lying about raising taxes by calling it a fine, only for the courts to say "it's a tax" and people still cheer, and continue with foreign wars that he promised he would end, this sure as hell isn't going to ruin him.

Like I said, I think he could rape a child on live TV and get away with it.

I don't think our target should be the government anymore; it should be the corporate news media that's been all too complicit with it. Take down the corporate media and let free news prevail, and I think LOTS of our problems would be solved.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 08:56:24 AM
Actually, that was the generation before mine, and my generation is the first to NOT be as well off as our parents. They spent themselves into debt in the '80s and passed that debt on to us. And we're STILL paying the economic price of that, as these same boomers begin to retire and get Social Security despite the fact that they're the richest age demographic in the country!
Not to pick nits, but you're 20 years older than me...how are you still in the same generation as me? O_O I thought the millennials (my generation---I was born in 1988) was a distinct generation between the ones born during the late 1960s and 1970s?  At least that's what Wikipedia implied. ^^;
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Like I said, I think he could rape a child on live TV and get away with it.
Natch.  It makes me want to say:

Dear Liberals & Democrats,

Where were you and what are you doing now about...
the NDAA, CISPA, Obama's chemical warfare in the middle east that left many dead and sterile?  The drone strikes?  The wiretapping?  The second patriot act?  The wars he started? Gitmo? The medical pot dispensaries despite his promise to not do that? His abandoning of gays after making promises? To name just a few?  And please, spare me the excuses of "well the republicans were just as bad! It's Bush's/the republicans fault!" Jesus, don't insult my intelligence with such pure, unadulterated crap. I'm more than sick of it.

Sincerely,

those of us who were paying attention.

Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 10:55:44 AMI don't think our target should be the government anymore; it should be the corporate news media that's been all too complicit with it. Take down the corporate media and let free news prevail, and I think LOTS of our problems would be solved.
What do you mean "our target"?
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Post by: AnCap Dave on May 04, 2014, 03:21:59 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
those of us who were paying attention.
What do you mean "our target"?

Seems like he means our target as libertarians. If we focus on going after the corporate media, who do more to protect government than be a watch dog of it like the original purpose of journalism, we would make our lives a hell of a lot easier in terms of getting stuff done.
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Not to pick nits, but you're 20 years older than me...how are you still in the same generation as me? O_O I thought the millennials (my generation---I was born in 1988) was a distinct generation between the ones born during the late 1960s and 1970s?  At least that's what Wikipedia implied. ^^;

I'm Generation X. We're the ones born while the Baby Boomers were growing up and starting to ruin things.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
@Shane:  Thanks. :)

Inspired by your talk of the media, I just recall this quote: "Media is the 4th branch of government." I don't know who first said that.
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 04, 2014, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Like I said, I think he could rape a child on live TV and get away with it.

I don't think our target should be the government anymore; it should be the corporate news media that's been all too complicit with it. Take down the corporate media and let free news prevail, and I think LOTS of our problems would be solved.

well, it doesn't hurt to try. the cunt needs to go down, along with the whole criminal rabble.

Having said that, you do have a point: we need to burn all bridges the Government can escape through.
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Post by: evensgrey on May 04, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 04, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
@Shane:  Thanks. :)

Inspired by your talk of the media, I just recall this quote: "Media is the 4th branch of government." I don't know who first said that.

Probably somebody in the 19th century. The obvious reference is to the '4th Estate', which itself refers back to the same conferences in the early part of the French Revolution that the terms 'Left Wind' and 'Right Wing' originate from.
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Post by: Dukect45 on May 04, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 03:26:07 PM
I'm Generation X. We're the ones born while the Baby Boomers were growing up and starting to ruin things.

I think this video is for you

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Post by: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on May 04, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
I think this video is for you

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Indeed! George knew. The Boomers said "Never trust anyone over 30," then they got over 30 and set about proving the adage.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2014, 09:27:53 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 04, 2014, 09:01:03 PM
Indeed! George knew. The Boomers said "Never trust anyone over 30," then they got over 30 and set about proving the adage.
While not all baby-boomers are utter shitstains, a few too many of them are it seems...
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 05, 2014, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2014, 09:27:53 AM
While not all baby-boomers are utter shitstains, a few too many of them are it seems...

The ones in power certainly are.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2014, 10:30:01 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 05, 2014, 10:26:34 AM
The ones in power certainly are.
^QFT.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
"I love how the older generation complains about the younger generation as if the former had nothing to do with it."--Dr. Phil, in one of his more lucid moments.
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Post by: tnu on May 06, 2014, 12:05:22 AM
QuoteThe government itself can say IT won't do business with X, Y or Z if it wants.....when it says I can't......then we have a problem......
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 06, 2014, 06:29:53 AM
Quote from: tnu on May 06, 2014, 12:05:22 AM
QuoteThe government itself can say IT won't do business with X, Y or Z if it wants.....when it says I can't......then we have a problem......

And that would be my friend Dave Goree from Facebook.
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Post by: nilecroc on May 06, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/antibiotic-resistance-now-global-threat-according-latest-who-report
Not sure if I should post this here or fail quotes.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on May 06, 2014, 02:14:23 PM
for marketing genious

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Post by: MrBogosity on May 06, 2014, 02:43:53 PM
Quote from: nilecroc on May 06, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/antibiotic-resistance-now-global-threat-according-latest-who-report
Not sure if I should post this here or fail quotes.

What's fail about it?
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Post by: ArtemisVale on May 06, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 06, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
From Being Classically Liberal:

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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 06, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 06, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
From Being Classically Liberal:

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"The results seriously challenge the mainstream Keynesian Theories." Meanwhile the debunking of the Phillips Curve (1970s Stagflation, anybody?) completely killed it as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 07, 2014, 06:15:16 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 06, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
"The results seriously challenge the mainstream Keynesian Theories." Meanwhile the debunking of the Phillips Curve (1970s Stagflation, anybody?) completely killed it as far as I'm concerned.

It's a zombie theory: it just won't stay dead!
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 07, 2014, 06:15:16 AM
It's a zombie theory: it just won't stay dead!
Damnit! The shotgun isn't working!
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
"So far, partial reps have at best resulted in equal muscle growth as full reps in research.

And yes, that means most pro bodybuilders are training in a suboptimal way. If you can't fathom the idea that a largely poorly educated and underground subculture's intuitive way of manipulating the human physiology is not perfect, you have much to learn about this world.

(http://bretcontreras.com/wp-content/uploads/BBers.png)
As much as I love these guys, I do not consider them the foremost authority on exercise science."--Menno Henselmans, http://bretcontreras.com/partial-vs-full-reps-or-both/
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Post by: evensgrey on May 07, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
"So far, partial reps have at best resulted in equal muscle growth as full reps in research.

And yes, that means most pro bodybuilders are training in a suboptimal way. If you can't fathom the idea that a largely poorly educated and underground subculture's intuitive way of manipulating the human physiology is not perfect, you have much to learn about this world.

(http://bretcontreras.com/wp-content/uploads/BBers.png)
As much as I love these guys, I do not consider them the foremost authority on exercise science."--Menno Henselmans, http://bretcontreras.com/partial-vs-full-reps-or-both/

I'm not sure if they aren't slightly missing the point.  Body builders aren't looking to just build muscle mass, they're looking to build muscle mass in very specific proportions.   The goal has very specific esthetic criteria.  Building maximum muscle mass won't get you there, you'd end up with the wrong proportions.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 07, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
I'm not sure if they aren't slightly missing the point.  Body builders aren't looking to just build muscle mass, they're looking to build muscle mass in very specific proportions.   The goal has very specific esthetic criteria.  Building maximum muscle mass won't get you there, you'd end up with the wrong proportions.
Considering what Menno stated applies to *all* muscle groups, I fail to see how that is really relevant.
Proportions and symmetry tend to take care of itself you're on a full body balanced program (e.g. not just exercising the mirror muscles of the abs, biceps and chest) so what this has to do with the quote (and the article) I have no idea.  At it's core, bodybuilding is nothing more than recompensing your body--maximize muscle, minimize fat.  Yes, there are issues with proportions and symmetry too but to act like that trumps the basic part of building more muscle is just silly:
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/bodybuilding-vs-aesthetics/
(Then there's the fact that there *are* bodybuilders out there who do focus on certain parts, such as the arms, like this guy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5J5aXODTmc )
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-us-medical-billing-way-more-f2340ked-than-you-think/
What's that, Cracked? You mean the single most heavily regulated and subsidized industry in all of America (second only to the financial industry) is screwing even INSURED people over with bankrupting sized bills and is almost to the point of being a freakin' racket and despite our lord and savior Obama 'fixing it' with only more of the same shit it's only going to get worse?! SAY IT AIN'T SO!
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 07, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-us-medical-billing-way-more-f2340ked-than-you-think/
What's that, Cracked? You mean the single most heavily regulated and subsidized industry in all of America (second only to the financial industry) is screwing even INSURED people over with bankrupting sized bills and is almost to the point of being a freakin' racket and despite our lord and savior Obama 'fixing it' with only more of the same shit it's only going to get worse?! SAY IT AIN'T SO!

Amazing how few people in the comments got the idea. Why do they think cosmetic and lasik surgery are so cheap?
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Post by: Dallas Wildman on May 08, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 07, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
Amazing how few people in the comments got the idea. Why do they think cosmetic and lasik surgery are so cheap?

I think what would be convincing is if there's a breakdown of per industry (or per service) for cent-per-dollar spending in government compliance costs.
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Post by: BlameThe1st on May 08, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
My latest addition to my Anti-Libertarians Can't Think video series:

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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2014, 10:45:03 AM
I don't want to have to post this here...but damnit, I can't not do it:  http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html
Don't get me wrong, I do generally like Casey's articles, but this one, while it has a lot of good in it, also has a LOT of bogosity in it too.  For one, he pulls the old, "well scientific methods and stuff can't compare to experience!" bullshit we've all heard from parents who spank their children.  And made even more condescending and annoying with an ad hominem/strawman/red herring of, "Just because you know the rules of boxing and the science of it doesn't mean you could take on a professional boxer in the ring. hur dur!"  Um, dude.  NO ONE is saying that.  Get off your high horse, you crotchety, old fuddy duddy.
Does he not see it as arrogant that he believes the 0.0001% of all experiences there are that he has represents all of it?  Without the benefits of scientific theory, falsification, and the like, it's as good as any other anecdote as far as I'm concerned.

And of course, goes into how, "well, I've seen students/grad students just make shit up just to get it published--which is probably most of the stuff you'll read from the scientific articles!  And scientists flat out plagiarize/fabricate stuff to keep getting grants!"  This might also explain the fact that his article only has one reference...Folks, if you have reason to believe a study/etc is bogus, that burden is on you.  Either give a methodological failure on part of the scientists or show another study that, say, wasn't funded by a supplement company or whatever to show it wrong.  But don't throw out all scientific studies like that--when he shows the results of his OWN on his own damn site--and still expect to be taken seriously.  Because now I have to wonder if the other stuff on his site is bogus too.  It's a shame as he's the only person I know of to do decent research into predicting muscular potential.

And of course him saying, "you MUST eat something right before and right after training!" Um, Casey?  That's the "anabolic window 'theory'" that has been long debunked by the likes of folks like Menno Henselmans (http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/workout-nutrition-is-a-scam/) and Armi Legge (http://evidencemag.com/anabolic-window/).  It's true that fasted training isn't a good idea in general, but come on! You don't need to eat right before/after a workout.  You underestimate just how efficient our bodies are, brofessor.

And some fun contradictions--he says don't waste money on supplements...then gives you a grocery list of them later in the article, he says to avoid machine exercises, while giving at least *one* of those in his trainee exercise program, which, as far as I could tell, he didn't offer an explanation for why he wants a trainee to do Donkey Calf Raises (requires a machine, or at least a person to sit on your back) instead of say, Standing Calf Raises (done with free weights & body weight).  As for the training 3x a week thing, what about folks like me who train 4x a week...but who only train for about 10-20 minutes a session, and who are only doing a section of our body each day (e.g. two days of upper body, two days of lower body)?  And of course the appeals to authority in that section too. *sigh* Not a shred of research presented, just the old "well MY authority can beat up THEIR authority!" pea-cocking bollocks.

So after reading more of the following, I decided to post a less harsh & more complete critique of it:
http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html

[spoiler]
Preface:
Okay, so overall, good, but I really don't like the anti-scientific mindset. He makes it out to be against the supplement companies but as someone familiar with folks like Germ Theory Denialists (Bill Maher anyone?) and many naturopaths, and Young Earth Creationists, um, Casey? Those woos--especially folks in the supplement isle of your grocery store selling "all natural" cures, etc, use lots of that same rhetoric.
(See #5 and #4 on this: http://www.cracked.com/article_18611_the-10-most-important-things-they-didnt-teach-you-in-school_p2.html  ). While after re-reading parts of it and reading past the title on more of them, it seems me and Casey are closer to being on the same page than I thought. And while I might have been a tad too harsh on that article at first, I'll give him something--at least he's not trying to sell me some bogus supplement, magazine full of ads or exercise equipment, if anything. :)
I will also point out that, after realizing I tend to come from a different background than the vast majority of trainees he's directing that article at (read: people who probably aren't quite as skeptical minded and careful with their money as they should be), I figured, "okay, maybe getting them to avoid the bulk of the stuff about health and getting bigger is NOT a bad idea."

1) Honest and realistic perspective is important, so the main crux of it gets no arguments from me. I'll say as much, unless it's a requirement of his web hosting service, I don't know of any requirement for multiple pages to be interspersed with ads.

2) Well, overall good, but just because we evolved to have the resistance in, say, our biceps at that point, doesn't imply we *should*. I recall Menno pointing out that strength curve = resistance curve being a good criterion for exercise selection and that cables and chains *can* help with that, especially for more advanced trainees: http://www.simplyshredded.com/... And even in his own program after this article, he has you doing pull-downs if you aren't strong enough for pull-ups.

3) A bit emasculating for my tastes, but overall agreed.

4) So after rereading stuff, this one still comes off as a bit bogus. Almost nothing but appeals to authority (while also dismissing authorities in the muscle magazines, etc--he does realize that the fallacy works both ways, right?) Because everyone has the same recovery ability/training experience/etc right? What about muscles like the soleus that do better with higher frequency compared to the triceps that do better with lower frequency? What about people who aren't training hard vs those going to total failure on each set? Or those with a bad back or knees? Or what if the person is working out in the late afternoon when they are biologically primed to do so or in the morning on an empty stomach when they aren't? Way more variables
there to make it a one-size fits all, even among genetically typical drug free trainees. I mean, I would probably be easier on that one if he then doesn't turn around and say, "it will depend on your recovery capabilities, etc, etc" in rule 6. Um, WHAT? So that wouldn't also apply here because?
To be fair, as Menno pointed out, the body being more sensitive to partitioning nutrients (the real "anabolic window") during your CRPT article lasting for about 48 hours.  Which just so happens to coincide with training 3 times a week rather well.  So in all fairness, yeah, there might very well be something scientific to that as well.

5) Okay, no major arguments for this one, but then as he himself has pointed out, curls *do* have a good use, for helping you to get a better mind/muscle connection for one. The classic example being someone who feels the burn in their triceps and/or shoulders instead of their chest on the bench press (as an example Casey himself has used). And for getting those machine groups that might be under-worked by the compound movements (e.g. calf raises).

6) Again, no major arguments from me. As I said, I like how this one is a bit more personalized than 4.

7) An excellent point. I should know, as I've thrown out my back and pulled (or at least strained) my thigh muscles trying to do 3 sets of 6 reps barbell squats going to total failure on each set, but without having researched or really been instructed on how to properly do them AND when I first tried them in recent months. So, again, this gets no arguments from me. I'll also add, that if what he says is true about Reg Park, damn, sounds like not even someone super-gifted can get away with slacking on technique for very long.

8 ) Again, no arguments from me, as comparing yourself to others constantly is just going to make yourself miserable.

9) Agreed. Though I'd also add "fish oil" to that list of supplements that are not totally worthless, if only because it actually *has* been shown to be cardioprotective. :) I don't know about the dessicated liver though. I would think a cheap mufti-vitamin would cover that. Or even better, just buy and eat some actual liver! :) Also, major points for pointing out Alan Aragon's Research Review. Directing us to folks who know their stuff, bravo. ^_^

10) Overall, good, however: No, you don't HAVE to eat breakfast. As was established on the CRPT article and the subsequent discussion on the bodybuilding.com forums: http://bayesianbodybuilding.co...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/...
As long as you're getting enough protein--especially later during the day, you should be doing good.
As for the good vs bad carbs thing? On the macro-nutrient level, no: http://www.simplyshredded.com/... (a bit ironic that he also suggests waxy maize starch in a PWO shake), and as for eating the 'right healthy, natural, etc' foods?
Ahem:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet...
http://evidencemag.com/clean-e...
Posted for great justice.

11) Very good point. Not only good for weight training/body building, but also for health in general. :)

12 ) As Alan Aragon pointed out with regards to whey protein in his article, "The Dirt on Clean Eating" http://www.wannabebig.com/diet... , just because something is processed does not imply it is 'worse' for you. And no, it doesn't *have* to be immediately after your workout, as has been established above.

13) Well, compared to fasted training, yes.
"You should worry more about your lifting and less about silly details anyway - and that's one of the the most important things you can take away from this article."
The devil is in the details, Casey as the article on CRPT made clear. :P Also, if you're bulking, as shown below, no, during a normal bulk, carbs add nothing to protein. Granted, carbs PWO is still good, but less for anabolism and more for glucose metabolism and neurally mediated benefits to sleep quality. :)

14) Very good point there.

15) Again, good point.

16) Good idea, as it lets you track your progress (provided one doesn't get *too* obsessive about it).

17) To be fair, this is one of the best in the entire article and I have read it many times.

18) As I said, perspective is a good thing so this definitely gets a thumbs up from me.

On a final note,
It would be nice if he would drop the self righteousness, and the appeals to authority. There's enough of that in the health industries as it is from just about everyone--especially the folks hawking snake oil cures and bogus supplements, the naturopaths, etc.
The rule of thumb that would have reduced his article in size greatly:
If a supplement/marketing claim seems to good to be true, it most most likely is + an extraordinary (marketing) claim requires extraordinary evidence. Being a skeptic is fun and useful, not just in debunking lies and making creationists and paranormal and naturopaths cry, but also in not getting scammed out of your hard earned cash. :)

Also, I think Alan Aragon said it best as far as science and research is concerned:

"Scientific research is not bias-free. It’s not free of financial
interests. It’s not free of study design flaws, and it’s not perfect.
However, it’s the best tool that we have for getting closer to
understanding the way the body works, the way that nature works. As
imperfect as research is, it beats the hell out of hearsay and gym
dogma."
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/re-predicting-your-muscular-potential/
Very nice. A bit emasculating near the end, but overall good stuff. :)

The Articles & calculators he's talking about:  http://www.weightrainer.net/potential.html (corresponding calculator here:  http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html )

For the genetically gifted among us:  http://www.weightrainer.net/maximum_potential.html (corresponding calculator here:  http://www.weightrainer.net/maximum_bodypred.html )
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 09, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 09, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on May 09, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
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I once saw a PA from the Metropolitan London Police that talked about them being a much, much bigger gang than any normal gang could be.

I also once saw a British cultist claim that there weren't enough of them (despite having twice the number of police per unit of population that any place in Canada or the US has and the entire city under constant surveillance).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 10, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
From a Facebook and real-life friend:

"It drives me nuts that secular humanists and atheists are fighting to remove 'Under God' from the pledge instead of removing the pledge completely...The pledge was written by a minister selling religious publications to schools and should never have been given this level of legitimacy. Plus it's nationalistic bullshit schools are shoving down students' throats instead of teaching them math." —Amanda Canady
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Post by: AnCap Dave on May 11, 2014, 09:51:36 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 12, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
https://mises.org/daily/1132 (Chomsky's Economics; Mises Daily: Monday, January 06, 2003 by James Ostrowski)
https://mises.org/daily/2197 (The Death Wish of the Anarcho-Communists; Mises Daily: Friday, June 02, 2006 by Murray N. Rothbard)

Inspired by the talk in the fail quotes thread regarding homesteading, the labor theory of value, and the anarcho-communists.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 14, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 14, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 14, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
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Fixed. You put the whole url in instead of just the video ID.
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Post by: FeatheredTerror on May 14, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 14, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
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I've also noticed (and this was sort of touched upon in one of his background slides) that HIV/AIDS denialists tend to also be proponents of other forms of pseudoscience. For example, Phillip Johnson, the founder of the intelligent design movement, is an HIV/AIDS denialist, as is Jonathan Wells, another prominent ID proponent. Another is Henry Bauer, who, in addition to HIV/AIDS denialism, is also known as a proponent of the existence of the Loch Ness Monster. I know this isn't really surprising, but I thought it was worth pointing out.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on May 14, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 15, 2014, 02:04:09 AM
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/12893916/

http://www.furaffinity.net/full/12529728/

http://www.furaffinity.net/full/2823875/

First two for making me laugh.  Last one for teaching folks basic grammar.  Seriously, I find people using the wrong version of your/you're more often than the correct version!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 15, 2014, 03:00:42 AM
Quote from: FeatheredTerror on May 14, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
I've also noticed (and this was sort of touched upon in one of his background slides) that HIV/AIDS denialists tend to also be proponents of other forms of pseudoscience. For example, Phillip Johnson, the founder of the intelligent design movement, is an HIV/AIDS denialist, as is Jonathan Wells, another prominent ID proponent. Another is Henry Bauer, who, in addition to HIV/AIDS denialism, is also known as a proponent of the existence of the Loch Ness Monster. I know this isn't really surprising, but I thought it was worth pointing out.

you should see the one guy who gave Myles shit on his channel (Powerman1985): 9/11 truther, Kennedy conspiracist, young Earth Creationist, vaccine autism Bullshit, etc., etc.,

basically, the guy is a raving lunatic.
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 15, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
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Just wow!
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Post by: Skm1091 on May 15, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 15, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
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Just wow!

super cat al rescate!!
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Post by: AnCap Dave on May 16, 2014, 02:08:45 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: D on May 16, 2014, 02:08:45 PM
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*Standing ovation!*
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 17, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
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The last line is gold.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 17, 2014, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 17, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
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The last line is gold.

Wait did Julius really do this?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 17, 2014, 06:38:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 17, 2014, 08:00:47 PM
@ skm1091: well, for the record: no, he didn't ban Swords for free people--not that I'm aware of (and slave were by default banned weapons, save as gladiators and personal retainers). And it would not have gone over well in Republican Rome: it was still the place that had a shit-fit when Mark Antony tried to crown Caesar as King. Also, this was the age of Cicero: the man believed that carrying swords for self defense is a right--one that must never be attacked. this attitude persisted in the Imperial period. here's a quote by Seneca the younger:

Quotequemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est.

basically: the sword isn't a killer: it's a killer's tool. it's worth noting that he's describing other people's opinions, implying it was more typical (his opinion is unknown).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2014, 12:01:52 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Every collectivist assumes a different source for the collective will, according to his own political, religious and national convictions." - Socialism
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Post by: evensgrey on May 18, 2014, 08:16:46 PM
Thunderf00t back to debunking hysteria about a product that doesn't make any sense to begin with.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 18, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 18, 2014, 08:16:46 PM
Thunderf00t back to debunking hysteria about a product that doesn't make any sense to begin with.

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Now for thunderf00t to just stick to that: he's easily one of the best in these. his political videos have largely been disasters.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 19, 2014, 01:11:02 AM
Genius:

http://ec.libsyn.com/p/d/8/4/d84cdd1ed5669488/skeptoid-4018.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06c88733d6cf5bc459&c_id=1312167
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 19, 2014, 06:45:09 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 19, 2014, 06:47:30 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 19, 2014, 01:11:02 AM
Genius:

http://ec.libsyn.com/p/d/8/4/d84cdd1ed5669488/skeptoid-4018.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06c88733d6cf5bc459&c_id=1312167

Well, Darat's in charge of the forum, so that means it'll be perfectly fine for people to accuse Libertarians of Federal crimes while moderating them if they defend themselves...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2014, 09:14:55 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-system-rigged-a-guide-grads/
http://www.cracked.com/article_21131_6-disturbing-things-i-learned-writing-your-textbooks.html
What's that Wong & JF?  You're saying the single most socialized/corporatized industry (college education & entry into the job market by proxy) in all of America is a fucking rigged & overpriced POS? And the textbooks in addition to being known for being overpriced as fuck are also total shit? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on May 19, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 19, 2014, 09:14:55 AMAnd the textbooks in addition to being known for being overpriced as fuck are also total shit? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!!
That is why I love my field.  More than half of the books are in the public domain and the other half are dirt cheap.  The class I am teaching requires the book for $30 and people have found it for as little as $5 used.  Another requires $150 worth of books if you get them in the bookstore but as a department we all use the same book for the same subject matter.  This means that some students end up using the same books they bought for one semester all eight semesters.  Although, I have a perfect example of what you are talking about: the Philosophy department uses a copy of Plato's Republic that costs $10 or you can get it in a compilation for $50 that multiple classes use; Classical Studies uses a version found in a compilation that costs $100 and is only used for one class.
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Post by: evensgrey on May 19, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on May 19, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
That is why I love my field.  More than half of the books are in the public domain and the other half are dirt cheap.  The class I am teaching requires the book for $30 and people have found it for as little as $5 used.  Another requires $150 worth of books if you get them in the bookstore but as a department we all use the same book for the same subject matter.  This means that some students end up using the same books they bought for one semester all eight semesters.  Although, I have a perfect example of what you are talking about: the Philosophy department uses a copy of Plato's Republic that costs $10 or you can get it in a compilation for $50 that multiple classes use; Classical Studies uses a version found in a compilation that costs $100 and is only used for one class.

I had a physics class where the prof put his own book on the list of texts (although it was really quite cheap). I took a physiology course where the textbook, which was authored by two different Ph.D.'s and someone who was supposed to be a specialist science textbook editor, began with 2 1/2 chapters of complete rubbish, including a complete failure to understand the difference between mass and weight. (And if you don't understand that as a scientist in an area when you need to measure both, why should I trust anything you say about anything?)

The only major exception was the second statistics course I took, which used what we were told, at least, was the standard scientific statistics reference book used everywhere by everyone that we would use for the rest of our careers for all real statistics work.

In Organic Chemistry II we had a choice of textbooks, a cheaper one that was all that course needed, or a more expensive one (Solomon's 5th ed. at that time, for those familiar with the books in the area) that would take us through any and all organic chemistry we might encounter as undergrads, and most of the rest that was in any textbook anywhere at any level.
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Post by: MrBogosity on May 19, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 19, 2014, 03:54:10 PMI had a physics class where the prof put his own book on the list of texts (although it was really quite cheap).

I guess that would depend on the professor. How awesome would it be to take a biology class taught by Kenneth Miller? And I wouldn't object one bit to him using his own textbook!

QuoteThe only major exception was the second statistics course I took, which used what we were told, at least, was the standard scientific statistics reference book used everywhere by everyone that we would use for the rest of our careers for all real statistics work.

I remember my various English and Literature classes throughout High School and College. Each time, they gave me what they said was the definitive guidebook for documentation style (how to cite sources etc.). Every single class had a different book, and they all differed from each other.
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 19, 2014, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on May 19, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
That is why I love my field.  More than half of the books are in the public domain and the other half are dirt cheap.  The class I am teaching requires the book for $30 and people have found it for as little as $5 used.  Another requires $150 worth of books if you get them in the bookstore but as a department we all use the same book for the same subject matter.  This means that some students end up using the same books they bought for one semester all eight semesters.  Although, I have a perfect example of what you are talking about: the Philosophy department uses a copy of Plato's Republic that costs $10 or you can get it in a compilation for $50 that multiple classes use; Classical Studies uses a version found in a compilation that costs $100 and is only used for one class.

same here for Geology: demand is low, and books are plentiful (especially used), so books in total never exceeded $100-200 for three classes (often more than one book is needed). the other departments were a different story.

the quality of the books is a different story though: the most expensive one I bought on record, is the mineralogy textbook. man was it a piece of shit. You'd think three guys proofreading each other (all native English speakers) and are known mineralogists would know how to write a concise, accurate summation of the topic. they can't. they had all these obtuse references that were hard to follow (or just inaccurate), and they just never got to the point for many pages. the most infamous example all of us could tell you was when they spent two pages comparing crystal structures to knitting or Crochet...God was that painful. we ended up just not reading the book, and everyone sold their copy back--save one friend who just burned it. so great was the sell-back that prices dropped by 80%--much, much more than your typical Geology textbook.

the best book we got (if we took the class--few did, and it wasn't mandatory), hardly anyone paid for: it was supposed to be an arm and a leg (up to $200), but worth every penny, and written by the foremost expert on the topic (now deceased). People just said fuck it, and obtained it by way of a book smuggler for free (or in return for favors--please keep your heads out of the gutter :P)--he having a contact in the form of the professor who taught the class the book was for (and was his graduate adviser). when the professor told us what book was the best, he'd mention the price, then would say: "I know that *name omitted* is giving these very illegal free copies of the book: I don't recommend you getting it". talk about plausible deniability...needless to say, everyone went.
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Post by: FeatheredTerror on May 19, 2014, 11:51:19 PM
While on the subject of bad textbooks, my very first semester of college I took psychology as a blow-off class, and the textbook was one of the most godawful things I've ever subjected my eyes to. The author was a faculty member at the community college I was attending at the time (thankfully, he wasn't my instructor), and damn, he could not write for shit. I never checked to see if proofreaders were listed, but if there were, I suspect they would have been the aforementioned non-English speakers. Typos and spelling mistakes abounded, and his writing style was maddeningly convoluted. A prime example was the book's account of the David Reimer affair. I was actually interested in the story, since I'd read a little about it and wanted to know more. Unfortunately, the narrative was so disjointed and hard to follow that it only left me confused. I know it wasn't an English textbook, but if you're going to tell a story, you should at least try to make it coherent. I and the rest of my class were understandably relieved when the teacher decided to stop assigning readings from it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 20, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 19, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
I guess that would depend on the professor. How awesome would it be to take a biology class taught by Kenneth Miller? And I wouldn't object one bit to him using his own textbook!

I would, actually, but for a reason you probably didn't consider: Kenneth Miller has written only one textbook (at least, as far as I can find reference to), and it's a highschool biology textbook.  I would expect a category greater depth for the textbook used in any post-secondary course.
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Post by: tnu on May 20, 2014, 04:09:09 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 20, 2014, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 20, 2014, 08:20:43 AM
I would, actually, but for a reason you probably didn't consider: Kenneth Miller has written only one textbook (at least, as far as I can find reference to), and it's a highschool biology textbook.  I would expect a category greater depth for the textbook used in any post-secondary course.

you're right: as far as can be told, only one textbook can be attributed to him. but actually, it's a pretty good one--considering it is a highschool textbook. I once looted one off a deadbeat student: the person had abandoned the book, and was later found to have dropped out. helped myself.  :P

(in case you're wondering: abandoned and looted books were my number 1 source of books while in college: you'd be surprised at how many books are just thrown into a box and left by a garbage can or out in the rain.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BogosityForumUser on May 20, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 20, 2014, 09:02:39 PM
[Y]ou'd be surprised at how many books are just thrown into a box and left by a garbage can or out in the rain.

I'm surprised how many people just leave their book on the desk after taking the final (mostly by non-majors).  If I weren't so ethical, I (not to mention the department as a whole) could make a surprising amount of money selling them.  And if I had my way, we would give them to low income or other disadvantaged students.  But no, professors have to try to return them (I just send an email with a deadline for response) and then give them to the department head.  He gives them to someone in the college administration.  No one I've talked to seem to know where they go from there; just a long chain of "I give it to so and so."

But from your description: I could have made a good living in grad school, if not for my mysophobia.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 21, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: BogosityForumUser on May 20, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
I'm surprised how many people just leave their book on the desk after taking the final (mostly by non-majors).  If I weren't so ethical, I (not to mention the department as a whole) could make a surprising amount of money selling them (N.B. ethics don't enter into this--see below).  And if I had my way, we would give them to low income or other disadvantaged students (now THAT is ethical!).  But no, professors have to try to return them (I just send an email with a deadline for response) and then give them to the department head.  He gives them to someone in the college administration.  No one I've talked to seem to know where they go from there; just a long chain of "I give it to so and so."

But from your description: I could have made a good living in grad school, if not for my mysophobia.

there's nothing unethical about making money off of these books in their stead (at least as far as I see it/saw it). one should  have no more qualms about it than one does about dumpster diving: the books were abandoned, and you know what happens when Admins get a hold of it. And as you said, there are better ideas anyways regarding what to do with them: give it to those who have not the money.

anyways: finding these books(or anything really) takes a while, and isn't as easy as it sounds (mysophobia aside): I only got good at it because I needed to eat, and didn't mind the money/additions to the private library.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 22, 2014, 09:05:12 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 22, 2014, 09:18:27 PM
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_truth_about_bodybuilding_genetics
Very fascinating!  I especially liked the ending. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 23, 2014, 12:52:27 AM
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Imagine the US government doing this instead: good luck with that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2014, 12:18:56 PM
"I've always found it hypocritical of the left to whine about the right's enforcement of morality in the bedroom, while they insist on enforcing it in the wallet!"--Shane in the comments of one of his videos way back when.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 25, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2014, 01:00:40 PM
Well, since no one else has posted it here:

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One thing I call bullshit on--no, people are not "inherently evil/stupid" yada yada yada original sin yada.  We're the species that put all our chips into our brains and our ability to socialize, so knock off the self aggrandizing already.  As Stef pointed out, there is no such thing as human nature.  It's just a cop out argument used by people who want to sound smart.  And same with the snipe at big pharma too...grief.  We have enough conspiracy pillocks in this movement already kthxbai.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 25, 2014, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2014, 01:00:40 PM
Well, since no one else has posted it here:

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One thing I call bullshit on--no, people are not "inherently evil/stupid" yada yada yada original sin yada.  We're the species that put all our chips into our brains and our ability to socialize, so knock off the self aggrandizing already.  As Stef pointed out, there is no such thing as human nature.  It's just a cop out argument used by people who want to sound smart.  And same with the snipe at big pharma too...grief.  We have enough conspiracy pillocks in this movement already kthxbai.

yeah, what Cantwell said in fact sounds legalist in part--specifically the school of Li Si: it holds that people are inherently evil.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2014, 08:36:08 AM
Harsh, but true:
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A conversation on it that simply needs to be posted here:

Izzy Trollin:  Redistribute all the vagina!!
Lord Hawkeye:  I know right?  Take any of their arguments and replace money with some other resource and look how it sounds.
Izzy Trollin:  He was oppressed by private ownership over the means of reproduction.
johnny chimpo:  lol, I'll donate money to your agenda, you have a paypal account?
Christopher Cantwell:  +Izzy Trollin HAHAHA! Oh, I wish YouTube had featured comments right now, because that's fuckin hysterical
Michael J.:  +Izzy Trollin Quality comment, mate. Haha.
Izzy Trollin:  +Christopher Cantwell I don't see whats funny about the plight of the jerkin class. We need to unite and demand our rights. How can you raise a family on socks alone.

Bonus bit from TheMrAncap: "How did he possibly shoot anyone when it was illegal to do it????"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 26, 2014, 08:48:42 AM
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MY SIDES!  :D ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 26, 2014, 08:54:52 AM
http://wwwnew.towson.edu/clt/editorials/peak3.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 26, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 26, 2014, 09:52:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 26, 2014, 11:55:05 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 25, 2014, 01:00:40 PM
Well, since no one else has posted it here:

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One thing I call bullshit on--no, people are not "inherently evil/stupid" yada yada yada original sin yada.  We're the species that put all our chips into our brains and our ability to socialize, so knock off the self aggrandizing already.  As Stef pointed out, there is no such thing as human nature.  It's just a cop out argument used by people who want to sound smart.  And same with the snipe at big pharma too...grief.  We have enough conspiracy pillocks in this movement already kthxbai.
The comments by statist in this video are stupid.
Got a moron making wild claims about what would happen in an ancap society while saying that there has been no ancap society in history.
Guy called dangerouslytalented.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 26, 2014, 11:55:05 PM
The comments by statist in this video are stupid.
Got a moron making wild claims about what would happen in an ancap society while saying that there has been no ancap society in history.
Guy called dangerouslytalented.
Oh yeah, between him and Justin Templar...good lord.  How do those two tie their shoes in the morning?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2014, 11:37:05 AM
To every socialist pillock saying "NAZISM WASN'T SOCIALIST! I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NAME WAS!!!11"

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler, 1 May 1927

What's more, doesn't anyone think it's a bit weird that they refer to such a country with a vast military as socialist, despite the huge amount of machinary and capital it controlled via the state and the huge state controls and production, etc they had? And there's the fact that the Nazis literally burned Mises' books....but you know, we're *SUCH* Nazis. *rolls eyes*  Sorry, socialists and other theists.  Hitler was in YOUR camp, deal with it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 27, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
ofc ourse citation of Hitler can often be unreliable. i'mpretty sure there  are alsocited statementsof beng an atheist andthat is very questionable.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: tnu on May 27, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
ofc ourse citation of Hitler can often be unreliable. i'mpretty sure there  are alsocited statementsof beng an atheist andthat is very questionable.
Such as?

Also, I think you missed the point of my post, dude. The point was Nazism IS socialism.  The fact that I taped the term "and other theists" in it doesn't change that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 27, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
my point was that statements on what an ideology supposedy is canoften be unreiable. Or are you suggesting the Republicans are the party of small government because that's what they claim they are? I'm just tryng to take a step back and examine thngs carefuly.. Not defending Naziism or SOcialism by any means but understandng the language of politics is important what is claimed to be and what "is"are two different things.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 27, 2014, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: tnu on May 27, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
my point was that statements on what an ideology supposedy is canoften be unreiable. Or are you suggesting the Republicans are the party of small government because that's what they claim they are? I'm just tryng to take a step back and examine thngs carefuly.. Not defending Naziism or SOcialism by any means but understandng the language of politics is important what is claimed to be and what "is"are two different things.
Fair enough, although you didn't see the last part of my post regarding the huge military state--and the huge amount of capital in control of said state that would imply, did you? Or the whole burning Mises' books thing...

As for the quote itself, take it up with Shane, he was the one who provided to a liberal making the "Hitler was a capitalist!" argument.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2jbl1dz.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 28, 2014, 08:57:16 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2jbl1dz.jpg)

I think it should also be noted that this douchebag claims he doesn't care about our sympathy, yet went to the media to play the sympathy card. Fuck him for that too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 28, 2014, 10:18:04 AM
The first hour or so is an excellent discussion of Net Neutrality:

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I'll go ahead and spoil this one bit from Leo at 44:08: "You have a political bent that is against government regulation in general, and I understand people's reluctance to let the government get involved in any way in the internet, but I feel the government has created this problem by creating a lack of competition. Maybe the solution is to foster competition, as opposed to regulate Net Neutrality."

FINALLY!!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 28, 2014, 10:18:04 AM
The first hour or so is an excellent discussion of Net Neutrality:

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I'll go ahead and spoil this one bit from Leo at 44:08: "You have a political bent that is against government regulation in general, and I understand people's reluctance to let the government get involved in any way in the internet, but I feel the government has created this problem by creating a lack of competition. Maybe the solution is to foster competition, as opposed to regulate Net Neutrality."

FINALLY!!!
Glad someone said it. :)

btw, it seems you, me and D all got hit with bogons (I got one earlier, D gave me a cluon, then someone gave me another bogon), and I gave you a cluon just now...I think we all made someone mad in the pants.  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 28, 2014, 11:04:40 AM
This whole article is win: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/27/glenn-greenwald-nsa-journalists-guardian-government-column/9641677/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 28, 2014, 11:05:52 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Glad someone said it. :)

btw, it seems you, me and D all got hit with bogons (I got one earlier, D gave me a cluon, then someone gave me another bogon), and I gave you a cluon just now...I think we all made someone mad in the pants.  ;D

Well, have another cluon then. ;)

Let whoever it is have their fun. It's like Whose Line Is It Anyway: the points don't matter!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 28, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
I get mad in the pants sometimes but my doctor said if I'd stop shaggin sumac it should stop.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on May 28, 2014, 11:30:18 AM
I find it worrying that posting absolute nonsense gets me a yea while serious inquiry yields a nay.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on May 30, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
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I would be careful about this. People are going to accuse you of being heartless.

That's something you see a lot from the left. When they can't back up their positions with reason, they always turn to emotion. It's pure manipulation. Sickening.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on May 30, 2014, 04:19:31 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 30, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on May 30, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I would be careful about this. People are going to accuse you of being heartless.

That's something you see a lot from the left. When they can't back up their positions with reason, they always turn to emotion. It's pure manipulation. Sickening.

The difference is, I don't give a fuck. They can think of me as heartless all they like. I think politicizing the death of your son before he's even in the ground is far more heartless than anything I could ever say.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on May 30, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
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assault weapons have been banned in my state since 1989 and further more since 1999. ANd Like dave said it is #1 according the brady campaign. What more can you fricken want?!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on May 30, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
That's something you see a lot from the left. When they can't back up their positions with reason, they always turn to emotion. It's pure manipulation. Sickening.
I see it from the right, especially the religious right and especially from creationists and from the warhawks too.  So it's not just a leftist issue--it's a dogma issue.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
Inspired by all the talk of shootings, I figured I'd post this here (accidentally posted in fail quotes before, derp).
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/11856440/
Quoted for truth.  My only complaint is they didn't put California on that list at the end. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 31, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
Inspired by all the talk of shootings, I figured I'd post this here (accidentally posted in fail quotes before, derp).
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/11856440/
Quoted for truth.  My only complaint is they didn't put California on that list at the end. :)

I wish that sign were real...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 31, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
I wish that sign were real...
You mean it's not? O_O Shame.  As that would be freakin' awesome.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 31, 2014, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
You mean it's not? O_O Shame.  As that would be freakin' awesome.

Yep, sorry, it's a Photoshop (and, I thought, a pretty obvious one):

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4s5DieWZlI0/TerU6SW9XeI/AAAAAAAAHDk/LFtjWxuhRDk/s1600/09.%2BWELCOME.jpg)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 31, 2014, 02:54:43 PM
Yep, sorry, it's a Photoshop (and, I thought, a pretty obvious one):

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4s5DieWZlI0/TerU6SW9XeI/AAAAAAAAHDk/LFtjWxuhRDk/s1600/09.%2BWELCOME.jpg)
Awww. :( Oh well. Still kickass to begin with. X3  And yeah, in my defense, I've never used photoshop, or any image software like that so I wouldn't know. ^^;
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/How-to-argue-for-statism-v1-1-455886990
I was quite pleased with this one. :)
I also added a few more (the one about burden of proof and the one about not getting all pissy at us).
The bit especially about burden of proof I'm glad I put, especially in light of the comments Shane keeps getting regarding the shooting in California.  Ironic they only accuse him of taking a single data point...but isn't that exactly what the pillocks freaking out about this shooting are doing? Taking one (or a few) data points and going crazy with them?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 05:04:07 PM
In light of the gun control talk in the fail quotes thread, I figured this would be a nice countering cluon:
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/4-reasons-why-gun-laws-are-bad-ideas-348714047
:)

And while I'm at it, a classic from Dale Everett:
(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/comics/2009-05-06-pro_elitism.png)
A fail in the comments of the above though: "To be fair, hypocritically using guns to enforce gun control would probably be more effective than… hoping a piece of paper made in 1787 can protect the people’s freedom to self-defense from an oppressive government."
>>Implying those aren't the same thing.
Hoping would be the winner because at least hope doesn't do anything.  Being a hypocrite and using violence to achieve your ends? That actually does bad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
And in the comments of Hawkeye's above posted journal, in response to a gun control nutbar, who says that corporations are the real evil:
"cor·po·ra·tion
[kawr-puh-rey-shuh n]
noun
1.
an association of individuals, created BY LAW OR UNDER AUTHORITY OF LAW, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members. See also municipal corporation, public corporation.

In other words, a legal entity created BY the government."
Because using a dictionary is not checkin' dat privilege it seems.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
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MY SIDES! ;D :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2014, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
MY SIDES! ;D :D

yeah, ADHD is generally awesome. Heather Ann Campbell narrated a few of the "SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE" Series: I give them a B in terms of accuracy, but only because I'm feeling generous (because she's really good at giving me a laugh). Notice one theme that keeps repeating :P

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 31, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 31, 2014, 08:07:09 PM
yeah, ADHD is generally awesome. Heather Ann Campbell narrated a few of the "SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE" Series: I give them a B in terms of accuracy, but only because I'm feeling generous (because she's really good at giving me a laugh). Notice one theme that keeps repeating :P

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[yt]IYNaEM2O5pU[/yt]

[yt]NFy3gHWF5oo[/yt]

[yt]ZnE3uyj9Grg[/yt]

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I should not have watched those first two while eating. >.<* Thank goodness I have a strong stomach (and didn't vomit). lol
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Abortion-since-I-haven-t-covered-it-382518716
My comment regarding the above (also win) DA journal:

"It isn't an issue you can draw an exact line." (quoting Hawkeye's journal on the subject)
I'd say Murry Rothbard did a good job of just that:

"The proper groundwork for analysis of abortion is in every man's absolute right of self-ownership. This implies immediately that every woman has the absolute right to her own body, that she has absolute dominion over her body and everything within it. This includes the fetus. Most fetuses are in the mother's womb because the mother consents to this situation, but the fetus is there by the mother's freely-granted consent. But should the mother decide that she does not want the fetus there any longer, then the fetus becomes a parasitic 'invader' of her person, and the mother has the perfect right to expel this invader from her domain. Abortion should be looked upon, not as 'murder' of a living person, but as the expulsion of an unwanted invader from the mother's body.2 Any laws restricting or prohibiting abortion are therefore invasions of the rights of mothers.

It has been objected that since the mother originally consented to the conception, the mother has therefore 'contracted' its status with the fetus, and may not 'violate' that 'contract' by having an abortion. There are many problems with this doctrine, however. In the first place, as we shall see further below, a mere promise is not an enforceable contract: contracts are only properly enforceable if their violation involves implicit theft, and clearly no such consideration can apply here. Secondly, there is obviously no 'contract' here, since the fetus (fertilized ovum?) can hardly be considered a voluntarily and consciously contracting entity. And thirdly as we have seen above, a crucial point in libertarian theory is the inalienability of the will, and therefore the impermissibility of enforcing voluntary slave contracts. Even if this had been a 'contract,' then, it could not be enforced
because a mother's will is inalienable, and she cannot legitimately be enslaved into carrying and having a baby against her will.

Another argument of the anti-abortionists is that the fetus is a living human being, and is therefore entitled to all of the rights of human beings. Very good; let us concede, for purposes of the discussion, that fetuses are human beings—or, more broadly, potential human beings—and are therefore entitled to full human rights. But what humans, we may ask, have the right to be coercive parasites within the body of an unwilling human host? Clearly no born humans have such a right, and therefore, a fortiori, the fetus can have no such right either."--Murray N. Rothbard, The Ethics of Liberty p. 98

Also, the sentiment on the extremes reminds me of something.  It's like a shopkeeper who doesn't let blacks or gays go into his shop or a woman who wants and will have her baby, but chain smokes and drinks and does drugs while pregnant--you do have the right since it's your property/body, but it doesn't make you less of an asshole for doing so--is my thoughts on that.

As for it being illegal to add to what you posted (yes, I paraphrase Shane mostly for this next part),
When abortion is illegal, you also get atrocities like this:  http://www.irishtimes.com/news/woman-denied-a-termination-dies-in-hospital-1.551412
A woman--who very much wanted her baby--lost it, but it wouldn't miscarry. Since abortions are illegal in Ireland, they couldn't terminate; they had to wait THREE DAYS (with the woman in excruciating pain) for the baby to spontaneously abort--and then the woman died of septicemia. "Pro-life" MY FUCKING ASS!!!

Most people would make an exception in the case of when the mother's life was in danger, but Ireland makes that exception, too. Her life WASN'T in danger at the time. It was only at the end, when the pregnancy self-terminated, that she was at risk for septicemia--but by then it was too late.

An anti-abortion advocate can say that it's true it sounded like an exception, and yes, there will always be potential issues with pregnancy including life-threatening ones.  But there will ALWAYS be exceptions that politicians aren't able to predict and that's why it *can't* be made illegal.

An anti-abortion advocate could also say that that's why laws should be written to minimize the loss of life and liberty including that of the unborn child.  But in addition to being vague and flowery, that still requires legislators to be omniscient! Either that, or to write the laws so vaguely it's hard to know exactly WHAT they mean in any given situation.
--Me, on abortion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 01, 2014, 03:32:43 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
An anti-abortion advocate could also say that that's why laws should be written to minimize the loss of life and liberty including that of the unborn child.  But in addition to being vague and flowery, that still requires legislators to be omniscient! Either that, or to write the laws so vaguely it's hard to know exactly WHAT they mean in any given situation.

Well, that's pretty much all forms of Statism, everywhere, at all times: Government is filled with magic people who somehow always know better than everyone else, no matter what. It's called the Cult of the Omnipotent State for a reason, after all.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on June 01, 2014, 04:32:08 AM
Minor nitpick on the Spider-Man one. The webbing was Sam Raimis screw up. in the source materiel and literaly every other incarnation of the character the webs are an artificial chemical compound made by Peter and shot from wrist mounted devices.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 01, 2014, 07:53:31 AM
Quote from: tnu on June 01, 2014, 04:32:08 AM
Minor nitpick on the Spider-Man one. The webbing was Sam Raimis screw up. in the source materiel and literaly every other incarnation of the character the webs are an artificial chemical compound made by Peter and shot from wrist mounted devices.

Actually, that's not entirely true. While MOST incarnations go with the artificial route, the movie series staring Toby McGuire does not. Regardless of what you think of that trilogy, Marvel does acknowledge it as its own alternate universe. I'm sure there are other incarnations that have that as well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 01, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
Quote from: D on June 01, 2014, 07:53:31 AM
Actually, that's not entirely true. While MOST incarnations go with the artificial route, the movie series staring Toby McGuire does not. Regardless of what you think of that trilogy, Marvel does acknowledge it as its own alternate universe. I'm sure there are other incarnations that have that as well.

Those were the Sam Raimi movies he was talking about.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on June 01, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 01, 2014, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on June 01, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
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Rand Paul is a libertarian in the same way O'Doul's is a beer.  I love it. XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 02, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
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>my face when Shane goes after Minimum Wage arguments again

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on June 03, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: D on June 02, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
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>my face when Shane goes after Minimum Wage arguments again

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Already dead? More like a zombie, because they keep on coming back no matter how many times you put them down.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on June 04, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on June 04, 2014, 02:17:44 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on June 04, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
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Guy in the comic is exactly one bauxite cluon ahead of all the "wage slavery" apologists I've seen.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 02, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
Amazing, isn't it? Wherever you have athletics, bogosity isn't far behind.
Speaking of which, http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-scenes-from-world-cup-right-out-dystopian-future/
Of course the World Cup would be the one to compete with the Olympics in terms of this kind of crap...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 04, 2014, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
Speaking of which, http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-scenes-from-world-cup-right-out-dystopian-future/
Of course the World Cup would be the one to compete with the Olympics in terms of this kind of crap...

You got any OTHER sporting events that are always moving to a new location every time, often in states with, at best, highly questionable behavior towards their own citizens?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 04, 2014, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 04, 2014, 05:52:45 PM
You got any OTHER sporting events that are always moving to a new location every time, often in states with, at best, highly questionable behavior towards their own citizens?
Not yet. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 05, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
IMO the funniest book ever written in the Arabic language: kitab al-bukhala' (the book of Misers), by Al-jahidh. If you guys ever learn Arabic (or could find a translation), I'm sure you'll find great lulz in it:

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these are my favorites so far:

Quote"a guy once went to a Khorasani, to ask him if he could lend him a frying pan. The Khorasani replied: "we had a frying pan, but a thief stole it.". So the guy went ahead and borrowed one from a neighbor, and soon the Khorasani could hear the crackling of the meat as it was frying, and could smell the Tabhajes (Tabhaj is a type of fried meat). So he went over angrily to the guy, and told him: " you are the most astonishing of men! had you told me that you were going to cook with meat and grease, I would have been quicker to lend you my frying pan. I had thought when you asked that you were to fry beans, and my frying pan would be burned by doing this*, but is great with delicious food"

Quotea Khorasani was entertaining his guests, and he served all of us a small plate with a single date and measure of grease. Similarly the meat was served. Yet it was noticed that the Khorasani was piling all the grease from his plate onto the dates, scraping all that he could as much as possible. Puzzled, I asked the man next to me: "what is wrong with him?" the man replied: "you don't know his problem? yeah, this guy doesn't want to waste grease, and he in fact divorced his wife--the mother of his Children--because he came upon her wiping down the plates of the food, and he asked her: "are you wiping this?' to which she said "yes". He then asked: "with hot water?!"

Quotea Khorasani who was one of their "wisest and most rational of men" was found by a man eating alone. the man asked him: "why do you eat along?" the Khorasani replied: "that is not the real question. the real question is: why would anyone eat in company? that is extravagance, and it is the natural way to eat alone, and any company would be excessive.

QuoteAnd similar to this was what Muhammad b. Bashir said about a governor whose name was "Khalid b. Mahrawai", or perhaps someone else: "between us we had some poets who were at his court, and one of them had made a poem of great rythm that pleased the governor. The governor told him: "we are pleased with your verse". He then called for his scribe: "give him 10,000 dirham!". at this, the poet was most joyful, and couldn't contain himself. the governor said to the poet: "I have seen what this has done: let us make this 20,000 dirham". At this it was as if the poet was to leap out his skin in joy. Seeing that he had multiplied the poet's joy, the Governer said: "I see that in multiplied my reward, I have not multiplied your joy as much: scribe, make it 40,000 dirhams!". The poet was near death with glee, but collected himself, and said: "God make me your fida': you are a generous man, for whenever you saw my joy multiply, you multiplied my reward, and my acceptance should not imply a lack of gratitude to you". he then wished him well and left.

At this, the scribe asked him: Sire, the poet stopped at 40,000 dirham, so you order 40,000 dirham?. the Governor said: "watch it! do you really want to give him a thing?!". the Scribe replied: "but I must obey your command!". The governor said: "you Idiot! that man has pleased us with words, so we pleased him with words! For when he claimed I was finer than the Moon, and mightier than the lion, and my tongue is more cutting than a sword, and my orders are more piercing** than a speartip, did he make me any of this?! do we not know that he had lied?! But he pleased us when he lied to us, so we too will please him, by ordering prizes for him. And if it be a lie, than we would only be countering a lie with a lie as we should, and words with words. But to counter lies with truth, and words with action, that would be falling short, as we have heard from you!"


*he's bullshitting (because that wouldn't have happened).
**it's a play on words in Arabic: the original was "anfadhu mina-as-sinani". "anfadh" in Arabic can mean either "more/most piercing", or "more/most readily carried out". In effect, he's saying that the Governor's orders have the combination of being carried out on a whim, but also insightful and decisive, cutting right to the heart of the matter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on June 07, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
"'So all the people who think government is a good thing if implemented right are psychopaths correct?' Yes, just like everyone who thinks that rape is a good thing if 'implemented right.'"--Shane Killian, comments of this video:
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Posted because it was a fucking awesome quote, and to balance out the one of his I posted in fail quotes. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2014, 02:55:17 PM
"Ah yes, socialism, AKA: Let's take economic advice from a economically illiterate slob who never worked a day in his life and exploited the shit out of everyone he could get his slimy tentacles around.  (Karl Marx)" - Hawkeye, to me, in AIM. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 09, 2014, 10:35:50 PM
"The Olympics & The World Cup:  Because nothing promotes unity & peace like jingoism, Orwellian police states, corporatism, park barrel boondoggles, massive debt and screwing of the poor and small businesses to make room for sponsors to make this sports shit even remotely economically feasible."--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 10, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
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The talk in fail quotes regarding that article reminds me of this.  Harsh, but true.

Love the burthurt statists in the comments:
"+johnrmcclure1 Calls someone violent and then recommends suicide.

Just another day in lolbertarian land."--SFK Mailbag
suicide =/= violation of NAP or initiation of force.  Try again, OP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 11, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
Julie Burowski posted the following win on Facebook:
QuoteAnother thought on: "Just teach men not to rape."

(See my new video on "rape culture" for clarification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-cTBmrdeo)

This statement implies that people are not being taught that they shouldn't rape-- or not sufficiently enough. Following that logic, people who rape others are unaware of why their actions are bad. To me, that sounds like excusing the behavior of rapists or even possibly sympathizing with them because of their supposed ignorance. Can you imagine? "Aw, they just didn't know that forcing someone to have sex against their will is a bad thing."

I'm going to call malarkey on that one. Of course, everyone should be taught not to rape. Some people, though, are frankly just bad people who won't listen or care. That's why self defense is important.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 11, 2014, 01:12:20 PM
This was posted by m.a. copenhaver (the Sexy Libertarian) on facebook, although she clarified that it was because she was a level 90 blood elf paladin.

Dayum

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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
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W00t! Something I wrote actually got me referenced by name in a video!
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>>mfw

Love your additions to the list as well. :)
14:40--One thing I would have added regarding the social contract argument--no, the constitution applies to government, as you explained in your constitution lecture series.  Government employees take a legally binding oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution.  It applies to govco, not to the rest of us.
I also liked how you came up with far more examples of each 'team' of govco lying in #10.  :)

I also liked 556deltawolf's comments regarding the interning of Japanese Americans and others.  But you know, it was FDR/a democrat so he doesn't count.

Fun fact--I actually *knew* about the interring of German Americans (well sort of), but in the documentary they said, "oh, but it was soldiers and we were nice to them, e.g. letting them drink beer, etc on the grounds that if we were nice to them, the Axis powers would do the same to our prisoners of war."  Okay, so it might have been prisoners of war not just German Americans, but there you go.

I know I don't usually post political stuff on FA, but fuck it, I figured I'd post the video and the addition(s) to it like that on all the sites I'm on--DA, FA, IB, SF & Weasyl. XD Because dang it, I was actually rather proud of that. :)
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 11, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 12, 2014, 07:02:53 AM
Sean Haugh rocks it int his video:

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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2014, 10:38:01 AM
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Sean Haugh rocks it int his video:

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Another good one. :)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2014, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 11, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
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W00t! Something I wrote actually got me referenced by name in a video!
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>>mfw

Love your additions to the list as well. :)
14:40--One thing I would have added regarding the social contract argument--no, the constitution applies to government, as you explained in your constitution lecture series.  Government employees take a legally binding oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution.  It applies to govco, not to the rest of us.
I also liked how you came up with far more examples of each 'team' of govco lying in #10.  :)

I also liked 556deltawolf's comments regarding the interning of Japanese Americans and others.  But you know, it was FDR/a democrat so he doesn't count.

Fun fact--I actually *knew* about the interring of German Americans (well sort of), but in the documentary they said, "oh, but it was soldiers and we were nice to them, e.g. letting them drink beer, etc on the grounds that if we were nice to them, the Axis powers would do the same to our prisoners of war."  Okay, so it might have been prisoners of war not just German Americans, but there you go.

I know I don't usually post political stuff on FA, but fuck it, I figured I'd post the video and the addition(s) to it like that on all the sites I'm on--DA, FA, IB, SF & Weasyl. XD Because dang it, I was actually rather proud of that. :)
Now available in text form here: http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-To-Argue-For-Statism-v2-0-460381065 ^.^

Also: 
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Yeah, such dangerous people.  Reminds me of the creationist talking point: "I mean, if there was no god to tell us right from wrong, I'd go out murdering raping and eating people!" or something...replace God with Govco and it really makes you think what insanity goes on in their heads, no?
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 12, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/bodybuilding-vs-aesthetics/
A comment I left on the above article (that I'm rather proud of):
"I never understood the 'Oh, you shouldn't just train for muscle mass! You wanna be musclebound or have a heart attack from all the extra weight?  You should train for strength not mass!' mentalities.

You [Menno] already debunked the 'musclebound' bit by noting that unless you have near ideal genetics for bodybuilding, have trained for hours a week for years, are on various steroids and other drugs for at *least* half the year and using various artificial aids that a person will NEVER be as big as Coleman. So a fortiori, they will never be big enough to be musclebound.

As Alan Aragon has pointed out here:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/nutrition-expert-alan-aragon-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html
'Resistance training has plenty of cardio-respiratory & cardiovascular effects on its own, as long as you’re not training like a pure powerlifter with long rest periods between all sets.'  I doubt it would 'give me a heart attack' especially considering I'm drug free.  And even then it seems to be the folks who really go nuts with abusing the drugs and who maybe have genetic sensitivities to them who tend to have those issues.

Also, from a health perspective, I'd argue that more muscle IS a good thing in and of itself.  I know it's not good form to cite Wikipedia, but since they were the only ones to ever cite a source on these figures, I'll go with them.
'At rest, skeletal muscle consumes 54.4 kJ/kg (13.0 kcal/kg) per day. This is larger than adipose tissue (fat) at 18.8 kJ/kg (4.5 kcal/kg), and bone at 9.6 kJ/kg (2.3 kcal/kg).[12]' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle#Energy_consumption )  That figures to be about 6 Cal/lb per day for muscle, 2 Cal/lb per day for fat and about 1 Cal/lb per day for bone.
So it keeps your metabolism up if you have some extra muscle, making it easier to lose fat.  Also having a few pounds more of muscle (all else equal) means a lower % of body fat (even if the absolute of body fat is still the same) which is good, especially when obesity is defined in terms of % body fat.  Math doesn't lie.

As for not being strong...um, how COULD I reach my drug free genetic limit of muscle mass and NOT be stronger than I am now is what I want to know.  Okay, so if I'm focusing on hypertrophy I probably won't be winning any powerlifter competitions unless I have Dorian Yates or Reg Park (or Tom Platz leg) genetics. Fine. I don't disagree with that. But to act like strength and size are mutually exclusive the way so many of these people do is just dumb."

Further vindicating it as win was Menno's reply:  "Agreed 100%. In natural lifters, the more lean body mass you have, the better, even if only for the sake of improved insulin sensitivity."
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 13, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
So we talked about crypto-currency and if paladins can be anarchists. I also gave a shoutout to the Bogosity Podcast. Your welcome shane ;3

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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2014, 09:56:07 AM
"I know very well that by taking this stance I've 'outlawed' myself from ever making money by writing for the mainstream publications and I've also offended a lot of the so-called 'experts.' But, guess what? I don't care. I'm sick of bullshit, and I won't play the game and be brainwashed by people who don't know a fraction of what I do about training and nutrition. If you sense that as arrogance and don't like my attitude then I don't care either - leave my site and read some bullshit elsewhere that you find more pleasant. I couldn't care less who likes me, doesn't like me, approves or disapproves of anything I say here. But remember this: I've been there, got the T-shirt, learned the hard way and I'm here to help. Hey, I could be paid for writing bullshit, but I don't."--Casey Butt, http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html

I can't not imagine someone like Shane--or any other longtime (rationalist) libertarian--having similar sentiments.  Only instead it might read like this:

"I know very well that by taking this stance I've blacklisted myself from ever making money by writing for the mainstream publications and I've also offended a lot of the so-called 'experts.' But, guess what? I don't care. I'm sick of bullshit, and I won't play the game and be brainwashed, browbeaten, or bullied by people who don't know a fraction of what I do about politics,  economics, science, and history (and many other subjects). If you sense that as arrogance and don't like my attitude then I don't care either--leave my sites and read some bullshit elsewhere that you find more pleasant. I couldn't care less who likes me, doesn't like me, approves or disapproves of anything I say here. But remember this: I've been there, got the T-shirt, learned the hard way and I'm here to help. Hey, I could be paid for writing bullshit ...but I don't."--any rational libertarian, I'm sure, myself included
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 15, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2014, 09:56:07 AM
"I know very well that by taking this stance I've 'outlawed' myself from ever making money by writing for the mainstream publications and I've also offended a lot of the so-called 'experts' on the internet discussion boards. But, guess what? I don't care. I'm sick of bullshit, and I won't play the game and be brainwashed by people who don't know a fraction of what I do about training and nutrition. If you sense that as arrogance and don't like my attitude then I don't care either - leave my site and read some bullshit elsewhere that you find more pleasant. I couldn't care less who likes me, doesn't like me, approves or disapproves of anything I say here. But remember this: I've been there, got the T-shirt, learned the hard way and I'm here to help. Hey, I could be paid for writing bullshit ...but I don't."--Casey Butt, http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html

I can't not imagine someone like Shane--or any other longtime libertarian--having similar sentiments.  Only instead it might read like this:

"I know very well that by taking this stance I've blacklisted myself from ever making money by writing for the mainstream publications and I've also offended a lot of the so-called 'experts' on the internet discussion boards in the news media, and in universities. But, guess what? I don't care. I'm sick of bullshit, and I won't play the game and be brainwashed by people who don't know a fraction of what I do about politics and economics. If you sense that as arrogance and don't like my attitude then I don't care either - leave my site and read some bullshit elsewhere that you find more pleasant. I couldn't care less who likes me, doesn't like me, approves or disapproves of anything I say here. But remember this: I've been there, got the T-shirt, learned the hard way and I'm here to help. Hey, I could be paid for writing bullshit ...but I don't."--any rational libertarian, I'm sure, myself included

Pretty much, yeah. Bogosity got a lot of attention and accolades from the skeptical community, including recognition and gatherings and interviews on skeptical podcasts, etc. Then I started hitting statist policies and using the same techniques to nail those to the wall. If I hadn't done that, I probably could have grown to where I could charge money for speaking engagements, things like that. But now, they don't call, they don't write...

When they do mention me, it's to say how I went all crazy in politics. Yet, even when pressed, I can't get any of them to say how I've done anything differently than I was when I was going against creationists or moon hoaxers.

It's a similar thing, sadly, in libertarian circles, although less so. I've been on Ed&Ethan twice, and they seemed to like me on Voluntary Virtues. But elsewhere, eventually I'll go against a pet issue of theirs and I'm a shill for government and Big Pharma and Monsanto and whatever else.

I think that's why the successful podcasts like the Skeptics Guide to the Universe make it a point to avoid politics. The times they've skirted that shoal, they've come close to statements I've been saying for years, even though they aren't (overtly, at least) libertarians. They probably feel that if they go any further they'll lose listeners. And I'm sure they would be right.

That's why lately my goal has been to get down to first principles such as Burden of Proof and actually try and engage skeptics directly. That's the whole point of my Atheism and Libertarianism series, it's where I'm going with How To Argue For Statism (part 2 should be up tomorrow, BTW), and I'm hoping if other libertarians pick this up and run with it it'll have the same effect that Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. had on the atheist movement.

Interestingly, I've gotten MUCH friendlier reception from theist libertarians than I have from statheists. I have to admit, I didn't expect that, although something inside me says in hindsight that I should have.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 15, 2014, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 15, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
Pretty much, yeah. Bogosity got a lot of attention and accolades from the skeptical community, including recognition and gatherings and interviews on skeptical podcasts, etc. Then I started hitting statist policies and using the same techniques to nail those to the wall. If I hadn't done that, I probably could have grown to where I could charge money for speaking engagements, things like that. But now, they don't call, they don't write...

When they do mention me, it's to say how I went all crazy in politics. Yet, even when pressed, I can't get any of them to say how I've done anything differently than I was when I was going against creationists or moon hoaxers.

It's a similar thing, sadly, in libertarian circles, although less so. I've been on Ed&Ethan twice, and they seemed to like me on Voluntary Virtues. But elsewhere, eventually I'll go against a pet issue of theirs and I'm a shill for government and Big Pharma and Monsanto and whatever else.

I think that's why the successful podcasts like the Skeptics Guide to the Universe make it a point to avoid politics. The times they've skirted that shoal, they've come close to statements I've been saying for years, even though they aren't (overtly, at least) libertarians. They probably feel that if they go any further they'll lose listeners. And I'm sure they would be right.

That's why lately my goal has been to get down to first principles such as Burden of Proof and actually try and engage skeptics directly. That's the whole point of my Atheism and Libertarianism series, it's where I'm going with How To Argue For Statism (part 2 should be up tomorrow, BTW), and I'm hoping if other libertarians pick this up and run with it it'll have the same effect that Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. had on the atheist movement.

Interestingly, I've gotten MUCH friendlier reception from theist libertarians than I have from statheists. I have to admit, I didn't expect that, although something inside me says in hindsight that I should have.
Dang.  Sounds like I was right.  I had my suspicion that that was the case.  And yeah, I notice that too--for some reason theist libertarians (Mary J Ruwart, BlameThe1st, Davi Barker/TheMuslimAgorist) tend to be a LOT nicer, and more atheist-libertarian friendly than statheists (too many to name) for some reason.
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on June 15, 2014, 06:06:22 PM
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Post by: Altimadark on June 15, 2014, 11:41:30 PM
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I gotta include this line in my regular dialog. Thanks, Shane.

Shane Killian
"And of course, as we all know, the best way to make sure that something never happens is to ban it, right? I mean, that always works, doesn't it?" </sarcasm>
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 16, 2014, 12:27:26 PM
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Post by: BlameThe1st on June 17, 2014, 01:41:02 PM
http://io9.com/10-scientific-ideas-that-scientists-wish-you-would-stop-1591309822

Of particular note, this entry on "natural":

Quote"Natural" is a word that has been used in so many contexts with so many different meanings that it's become almost impossible to parse. Its most basic usage, to distinguish phenomena that exist only because of humankind from phenomena that don't, presumes that humans are somehow separate from nature, and our works are un- or non-natural when compared to, say, beavers or honeybees.

When speaking of food, "natural" is even slipperier. It has different meanings in different countries, and in the US, the FDA has given up on a meaningful definition of natural food (largely in favor of "organic", another nebulous term). In Canada, I could market corn as "natural" if I avoid adding or subtracting various things before selling it, but the corn itself is the result of thousands of years of selection by humans, from a plant that wouldn't exist without human intervention.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on June 17, 2014, 02:23:14 PM
Discovered this guy today and I fucking LOVE him already!

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Post by: Dallas Wildman on June 19, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
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I'd nominate this for Silver Cluon, but I don't know who made it.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on June 19, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
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I'd nominate this for Silver Cluon, but I don't know who made it.
Malcom X was a Muslim? Damn.  I didn't know that.
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Post by: evensgrey on June 20, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
Malcom X was a Muslim? Damn.  I didn't know that.

In fact, he was both a 'bad' Muslim (a member of The Nation of Islam, which is basically a black, Muslim equivalent of the white, Christian KKK), and a 'good' Muslim when he later abandoned their racist theology after making the pilgrimage to Mecca.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 20, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
In fact, he was both a 'bad' Muslim (a member of The Nation of Islam, which is basically a black, Muslim equivalent of the white, Christian KKK), and a 'good' Muslim when he later abandoned their racist theology after making the pilgrimage to Mecca.
Ah.

Not sure why, but the first thing I noticed (going from the bottom up) in that picture was that the 'evil/bad' ones tended to have more/more elaborate facial hair. O.o
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2014, 01:03:38 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 22, 2014, 04:39:12 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
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five out of six of these their loss would be a loss to humanity. Eggplants? the world would be a better place--fuck eggplants.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 22, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
five out of six of these their loss would be a loss to humanity. Eggplants? the world would be a better place--fuck eggplants.
I actually seem to have a reaction to eggplant much like I do peanuts (the latter of which I'm severely allergic to) albeit far less severe, but I still must admit, I do still enjoy the dish Eggplant Parmesan once every now and again. ^.^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 23, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
I actually seem to have a reaction to eggplant much like I do peanuts (the latter of which I'm severely allergic to) albeit far less severe, but I still must admit, I do still enjoy the dish Eggplant Parmesan once every now and again. ^.^

that's precisely what pisses me off about it: the oil on my skin gives me hives, and every time I eat it, I gag.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
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Well said. :)
And yeah, I never understood the gays that act like feminists are their friends.  1) Stef has pointed out that it's the mothers who tend to be the ones most willing to put the religion in their kids heads, especially at the young age where it matters, and thus make them that more likely to oppose gay marriage. 2) Many feminists think gays getting married is "misyongy" because it means that men have less competition in the dating market.  3) Many feminists are in favor of infant male genital mutaliation--a busybody religious bullshit idea if ever there was one.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 23, 2014, 09:36:58 PM
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Post by: tnu on June 24, 2014, 01:19:33 AM
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Post by: MrBogosity on June 24, 2014, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 20, 2014, 01:03:38 PM
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So apparently, the Thunderf00t fans are trying to teach me a lesson by using this video to show people how ridiculous I am. The result? This is by far my most successful video so far this year, and views, comments, likes, minutes watched, and earnings are all up. I've also gained more subscribers than I lost once you eliminate the ones lost due to closed accounts.

Yeah, you guys sure showed me!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 24, 2014, 12:23:40 PM
So apparently, the Thunderf00t fans are trying to teach me a lesson by using this video to show people how ridiculous I am. The result? This is by far my most successful video so far this year, and views, comments, likes, minutes watched, and earnings are all up. I've also gained more subscribers than I lost once you eliminate the ones lost due to closed accounts.

Yeah, you guys sure showed me!
You'd think they'd remember that when creationists pulled that crap it only made YouTube atheists more successful.  Some people never learn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on June 24, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
You'd think they'd remember that when creationists pulled that crap it only made YouTube atheists more successful.  Some people never learn.

There was one guy who used his ratings as proof that he is wrong. Uh does that mean these hell preachers are correct?

https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2164.0 (Look at the top comments they are pro creationism/hell.)

By their argument these guys are right.

I've seen hitler videos with comments going along the line saying stuff like death to jews with 50 or more thumbs up with opposing comments in the negative. Does that prove him right?

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2014, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on June 24, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
There was one guy who used his ratings as proof that he is wrong. Uh does that mean these hell preachers are correct?

https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2164.0 (Look at the top comments they are pro creationism/hell.)

By their argument these guys are right.

I've seen hitler videos with comments going along the line saying stuff like death to jews with 50 or more thumbs up with opposing comments in the negative. Does that prove him right?
Shameful.  By Tf00t's fans logic, the videos of his and the other YouTube atheists that were voted-botted and even false flagged were wrong.
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Post by: tnu on June 25, 2014, 10:41:52 AM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 25, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
http://www.libertarianism.org/media/free-thoughts-podcast/why-not-capitalism

Jason Brennan actually sounds like an An-Cap in this.
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Post by: tnu on June 26, 2014, 05:48:17 AM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 26, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
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Post by: Altimadark on June 27, 2014, 05:04:18 PM
Heard this bit from some college-aged girls behind me in the line for Chipotle today, just before I noticed prices went up again.

(paraphrased from memory) "...and they're talking about raising the minimum wage again. That's stupid, if they want to help people, they'd lower taxes first."

That certainly made the higher prices a little more bearable.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2014, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Altimadark on June 27, 2014, 05:04:18 PM
Heard this bit from some college-aged girls behind me in the line for Chipotle today, just before I noticed prices went up again.

(paraphrased from memory) "...and they're talking about raising the minimum wage again. That's stupid, if they want to help people, they'd lower taxes first."

That certainly made the higher prices a little more bearable.
@Those girls--very well said. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/dairy_products/printer.php
http://paleomovement.com/alan-aragon-paleo-critic/
Alan Aragon does it again. :)
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Post by: ArtemisVale on June 29, 2014, 12:05:24 AM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 29, 2014, 01:44:58 AM
best...pwnage....ever:

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you see, THIS is how you deal with fraud: not with a stupid law, not with violence. but by trolling your target so hard he's shamed into quitting.

anyways, the story:

Abu Ja'far al-mansour (the Second, and greatest, Abbasid Caliph) was a person who was very tight and careful with money, and would spend it reluctantly. On the other hand, he was a patron of the arts, and possessed of great memory. He would offer whoever came up with a poem the weight of the writing medium in gold. Poets would come, and try to create beautiful long poems, to claim the prize. However, Abu Ja'far decided that he didn't want to pay them, so he did this: using his memory, he would be able to memorize the poem after a recitation. he had a boy who could do it in two recitations, and a girl who did three.

So when a prospective poet came in and recited his verse, Abu Ja'far would simply recite it back like a tape recorder--word for word, claiming the poem was not original to the poet. he would then claim to know others who memorized it, and bring out the boy, who would recite it back word for word (he having heard first the poet, then the Caliph), and then the girl, who would recite it too, word for word. the poet would then be dismissed, empty handed.

Poets despaired, and feared to try to claim the prize. that was until al-asma'i saw them in their state, and asked: "why are you so dejected?". they explaimed to him how no one seemed to be able to make a poem the caliph didn't recognize, and described the sequence of events. unfazed, Al-Asma'i basically said: "yeah, there's a trick to this, let me go home". Now for context, Al-asma'i was a linguist, poet, and philologist, lead member of the Basra school of grammar (itself the finest school--it was the one Sibawayh was from), and therefore epic grammar nazi. So what he did next will come as no surprise:

he went to the Caliph, dressed as a simple barefooted wild-haired nomad (to hide the fact that he is al-asma'i--he was already famous), and with him was a camel weighed down with a heavy load (we'll get to it). He greeted the Caliph, and told him that he had a poem in tribute to the Caliph. the poem itself:

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basically, while grammatically perfect, and forming coherent sentences, the words and meanings are so confusing and obscure, that when recited to the Caliph, he was too focused trying to figure out what the hell the guy was saying to be able to memorize the poem. he could only repeat one word--a garbled one. neither the boy nor the girl could figure it out either.

conceding defeat, the Caliph gave in, and asked that he bring his writing to him, so as to reward him with its weight in gold. At this, al-asma'i said this:

[spoiler]
Quote from: Al-asma'iI had inherited from my father a marble pillar, on which I carved the poem. it is on my camel, and can only be carried by four of your men.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
horrified, the treasurer pointed out that the weight was such that it would deplete the treasury. Al-asma'i assured him that he'd give up the reward, but only if Abu-Ja'far would not rip poets off, and pay them their due.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2014, 01:48:40 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on June 29, 2014, 01:44:58 AM
best...pwnage....ever:

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you see, THIS is how you deal with fraud: not with a stupid law, not with violence. but by trolling your target so hard he's shamed into quitting.

anyways, the story:

Abu Ja'far al-mansour (the Second, and greatest, Abbasid Caliph) was a person who was very tight and careful with money, and would spend it reluctantly. On the other hand, he was a patron of the arts, and possessed of great memory. He would offer whoever came up with a poem the weight of the writing medium in gold. Poets would come, and try to create beautiful long poems, to claim the prize. However, Abu Ja'far decided that he didn't want to pay them, so he did this: using his memory, he would be able to memorize the poem after a recitation. he had a boy who could do it in two recitations, and a girl who did three.

So when a prospective poet came in and recited his verse, Abu Ja'far would simply recite it back like a tape recorder--word for word, claiming the poem was not original to the poet. he would then claim to know others who memorized it, and bring out the boy, who would recite it back word for word (he having heard first the poet, then the Caliph), and then the girl, who would recite it too, word for word. the poet would then be dismissed, empty handed.

Poets despaired, and feared to try to claim the prize. that was until al-asma'i saw them in their state, and asked: "why are you so dejected?". they explaimed to him how no one seemed to be able to make a poem the caliph didn't recognize, and described the sequence of events. unfazed, Al-Asma'i basically said: "yeah, there's a trick to this, let me go home". Now for context, Al-asma'i was a linguist, poet, and philologist, lead member of the Basra school of grammar (itself the finest school--it was the one Sibawayh was from), and therefore epic grammar nazi. So what he did next will come as no surprise:

he went to the Caliph, dressed as a simple barefooted wild-haired nomad (to hide the fact that he is al-asma'i--he was already famous), and with him was a camel weighed down with a heavy load (we'll get to it). He greeted the Caliph, and told him that he had a poem in tribute to the Caliph. the poem itself:

[yt]WjxA90wA-PM[/yt]

basically, while grammatically perfect, and forming coherent sentences, the words and meanings are so confusing and obscure, that when recited to the Caliph, he was too focused trying to figure out what the hell the guy was saying to be able to memorize the poem. he could only repeat one word--a garbled one. neither the boy nor the girl could figure it out either.

conceding defeat, the Caliph gave in, and asked that he bring his writing to him, so as to reward him with its weight in gold. At this, al-asma'i said this:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[spoiler]
horrified, the treasurer pointed out that the weight was such that it would deplete the treasury. Al-asma'i assured him that he'd give up the reward, but only if Abu-Ja'far would not rip poets off, and pay them their due.[/spoiler]
I originally wasn't going to read through that...but I did and I don't regret it...holy shit that is epic. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 29, 2014, 02:03:38 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2014, 01:48:40 AM
I originally wasn't going to read through that...but I did and I don't regret it...holy shit that is epic. :)

one does not simply not read through an Al-asma'i related story.  :P

there are lots of stories about this guy--all true. many are basically Arab versions of epic rap battles, others about how his intellect and knowledge made him the age's equivalent to a billionare. And to think he started off as a pauper.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 02, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 02, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 02, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
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Weird Al is the shit! :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 03, 2014, 11:22:40 AM
"Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself."--No clue who said this.
So true.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 03, 2014, 06:53:05 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 05, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 06, 2014, 01:10:46 PM
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"With any luck, they'll eat each other."--Hawkeye in the video's comments.
"I've got my fingers crossed. :)  And yeah, seeing this video in my feed made my morning and even my day. :)"--me in response to Hawkeye's above comment.

"Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of 4chan could have seen this (and much worse) coming a lightyear away...Ditto for the results/it not working on the last clip...what did they THINK was going to happen?"--Me on the video itself.  I mean, really, just what did they THINK was going to happen?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 06, 2014, 03:22:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 06, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
This too:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 06, 2014, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 06, 2014, 01:10:46 PM
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"With any luck, they'll eat each other."--Hawkeye in the video's comments.
"I've got my fingers crossed. :)  And yeah, seeing this video in my feed made my morning and even my day. :)"--me in response to Hawkeye's above comment.

"Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of 4chan could have seen this (and much worse) coming a lightyear away...Ditto for the results/it not working on the last clip...what did they THINK was going to happen?"--Me on the video itself.  I mean, really, just what did they THINK was going to happen?
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 06, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
"Stay away from drugs, stay away growth hormones, stay away from steroids ...Life goes by too quickly, and before you turn around it's all over. If you don't squeeze the last ounce of life out of you, of your life here on Earth with a good wife and a good family, then what are are you doing here? People in hospital are crying out for what you've got. Don't abuse it." - Reg Park
It's worth noting he was mostly active in bodybuilding from the 1940s to 1970s.  So just before the feminists killed marriage.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on July 07, 2014, 06:24:02 PM
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woot woot
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 07, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: D on July 06, 2014, 03:22:12 PM
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From the above video: "I think prayer is more effective than voting, and I'm an atheist!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 07, 2014, 09:49:50 PM
this outlines what i like about 5th over 4th.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 09, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
I'd post that quote/reply that Richard Dawkins made when asked how he knows to be moral without god, but I can't find it. D:
So to paraphrase: "Are you saying the only reason you don't murder, rape and steal is because you're afraid of punishment?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2014, 12:42:16 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21317_5-flawed-tests-that-control-our-lives.html
Loved the bit on BMI as well as the SAT. :) I haven't really read the others, but it wouldn't surprise me tbh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 10, 2014, 01:26:31 AM
hehe...even I have a funny moment from time to time:

Quotewell, I never really liked the Game of Thrones: it is just a bunch of assholes fighting over some uncomfortable chair a bunch of sad-saps on a backwards planet with fucked up seasons think signifies that the sitter has some divinely ordained right to rule over everyone. If I wanted to read about shit this stupid, I read a newspaper
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 10, 2014, 12:02:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 10, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2014, 12:42:16 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21317_5-flawed-tests-that-control-our-lives.html
Loved the bit on BMI as well as the SAT. :) I haven't really read the others, but it wouldn't surprise me tbh.

All good ones, but they should have made it 6 and included the polygraph.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 10, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
All good ones, but they should have made it 6 and included the polygraph.
You thought so too, huh? Glad it wasn't just me. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 12, 2014, 08:46:09 AM
Sean Haugh again, this time to a WRAL pundit bleating on about the "spoiler effect":

QuoteHowdy! It is so frustrating to keep hearing people assert against available evidence that Libertarian voters lean Republican in much of any way. Came here to engage you on that and my heart sank when I saw you are by trade an actual political scientist. Please keep up with your own literature. Because this is the kind of idea that sounds good until you think about it.

The unsupported statement, "Most Libertarians will vote for a Republican if they can't/won't vote for their own candidate." is disproven by this very poll. Something you acknowledge but dismiss out of hand.

Similarly, check out http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/11/07/robert-sarvis-didnt-cost-ken-cuccinelli-the-virginia-governors-race/ which is typical in such situations. "Perhaps the most interesting thing is that the vast majority of Sarvis supporters said that if he were not in the race they simply wouldn't have voted."

I am not having luck finding a source for this, but I do recall a post-election poll in Wisconsin in 2002, where Libertarian Ed Thompson won 10.5% of the vote and also a Green Party candidate Jim Young received 2.5%. The poll struck me by asking Thompson supporters which candidate they would have supported if Thompson weren't in the race. It did not include the option of 'none of these.' Respondents split into nearly perfect thirds in making their second choice there.

If you look at similar instances across the country, I am sure you will find similar results that completely undermine this notion that Libertarian voters like Republicans. I know this is anecdotal, but I can tell you I personally am among the many Libertarian voters I know who wouldn't dream of voting Republican again unless it was for someone really special. Watch my videos and you'll discover that the whole reason I am running is so I could vote for someone in this race.

Please don't be confused by the fact that over the last 4 years many Republican politicians are trying to claim some kind of libertarian credibility. That's different from Libertarian voters feeling any affinity for Republicans. That trend however should clue you into the fact that comparing my race to Mike Beitler's without deeper analysis is somewhat facile. No offense to Mike, I gladly voted for him, but I am a very different candidate and much has changed in the last four years.

yours in liberty -
Sean Haugh
Libertarian for US Senate
919 402 3489
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 12, 2014, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 12, 2014, 08:46:09 AM
Sean Haugh again, this time to a WRAL pundit bleating on about the "spoiler effect":
*applause!* Very well said, Sean. :)  And yeah, last I checked, you, me, Hawkeye, D, and many others on this board are actually former liberals/democrats.  oops. :3  Hell, I've never voted for a republican candidate in my life, and, unless I'm held at gunpoint, never will.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on July 12, 2014, 08:38:54 PM
In response to South Park announcing they're taking most episodes down from SouthParkStudios.com and moving them to Hulu Plus

(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/l/t1.0-9/10462899_920084691338518_9153629861426144860_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 12, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
Found this gem about Tumblr on Tumblr:

QuoteLet me get this straight:
Disney getting lazy with their character designs:a serious matter on Tumblr
Ubisoft not willing to make female characters for Assassin's creed:a serious matter on Tumblr
4chan raids:a serious matter on Tumblr
People are told to shave and behave:a serious matter on Tumblr
World cup:a serious matter on Tumblr (despite sports not being something appealing to a big part of the site)
Israel and Gaza being constantly bombarded by one another:Tumblr doesn't give two shits.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 13, 2014, 03:37:47 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 12, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
Found this gem about Tumblr on Tumblr:


You expect Tumblr Activists to care about anything that involves real people actually getting killed?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 13, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 13, 2014, 07:15:17 PM
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Love this guy, except for the third point. Oh well 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 13, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
You thought so too, huh? Glad it wasn't just me. :)

Oh, and the Myers-Briggs. Complete bogosity.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 13, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 13, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
Oh, and the Myers-Briggs. Complete bogosity.
Ditto.  It might as well be astrology. :) I'm surprised I haven't seen you do a debunking video or podcast (or text post) on it. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 13, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 13, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
Oh, and the Myers-Briggs. Complete bogosity.

Thru actually teach Myers Briggs at school ):
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 13, 2014, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 13, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Thru actually teach Myers Briggs at school ):
Natch. One more reason to get govco out of them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 13, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 13, 2014, 11:00:32 PM
Natch. One more reason to get govco out of them.

*sigh* I was an INTJ

I felt like a god *O*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 13, 2014, 11:06:21 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 13, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
*sigh* I was an INTJ

I felt like a god *O*
First time I took it, I got INTP.  Most of the time, I get INTJ, other times, ISTJ.  I think I *might* have gotten ISTP at some point (probably not). *shrugs* I know for a fact that I'm introverted, *that* much is certain.  And I tend to be more a thinker than relying on mah feelz.  lol!

I'm told the "Big Five/OCEAN" test is better, but then I've been misled before.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 14, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 13, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
*sigh* I was an INTJ

I felt like a god *O*

I was an INTP once. The other times I was ENFP and ISTJ.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 14, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
I was an INTP once. The other times I was ENFP and ISTJ.
Dang! You were all over the place. XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 14, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Dang! You were all over the place. XD

Yep, I got each letter at least once!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 14, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/13/straw-libertarians-be-gone#fold
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 15, 2014, 01:40:49 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
"Economics is how you manage scarce resources. Government is how you make them more scarce."--Shane in response to kradrol in the comments of this video: (also a fav):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 15, 2014, 01:23:20 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21341_5-ways-every-conspiracy-theory-makes-world-worse.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 16, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
Quote from: D on July 06, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
This too:
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And laci, if you're confused, I think you'll find this video to be very enlightening:
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"BUT I DON'T BELIEVE..."
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"BUT I'M A NICE FEMINIST..."
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2014, 02:08:27 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-parents-forget-about-being-teenager/

Especially the last paragraph:
"I'm not saying that adulthood wipes the memory like a colonial droid. Time has a way of filtering out the ugly parts of your past until you're left with a heavily Photoshopped version that may look a lot nicer but isn't a truthful reflection. If we don't keep the original raw copy stored away somewhere in our big ol' headface, it's easy for us to blow off modern teen problems as them just being whiny, coddled bitches who have never seen real pain. But if that's what the parents truly think, then the teen isn't the one with the problem."--Emphasis added by me.

And even if it IS true that the teen had an easy life compared to the adult, that doesn't help their case.  If anything, it makes it even worse because their experiences will be so different as to be even LESS applicable to the teen's.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 19, 2014, 01:20:47 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-we-need-classes-how-to-talk-to-people/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 19, 2014, 06:13:32 PM
"In a free market, the profit signals never lie to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The market signals will always kick you the real deal. The signals of profit and loss is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black.”--Me, inspired by Henry Rollins quote posted here:  http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/competitive-mass-whats-your-competition-weight/ trying to explain the economic calculation problem and the idea that actions matter and words do not when it comes to business and transactions.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 19, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
"If all you have to say is bogosity, kindly STFU.  The world's full of enough crap as it is, without you adding to it."--me,
loosely based on that famous quote from Elmo of Sesame Street: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."
And a bit from Casey Butt: "The fitness industry is full of enough crap as it is, without these nuts adding to it." in rule one http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on July 20, 2014, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 18, 2014, 02:08:27 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-parents-forget-about-being-teenager/

Especially the last paragraph:
"I'm not saying that adulthood wipes the memory like a colonial droid. Time has a way of filtering out the ugly parts of your past until you're left with a heavily Photoshopped version that may look a lot nicer but isn't a truthful reflection. If we don't keep the original raw copy stored away somewhere in our big ol' headface, it's easy for us to blow off modern teen problems as them just being whiny, coddled bitches who have never seen real pain. But if that's what the parents truly think, then the teen isn't the one with the problem."--Emphasis added by me.

And even if it IS true that the teen had an easy life compared to the adult, that doesn't help their case.  If anything, it makes it even worse because their experiences will be so different as to be even LESS applicable to the teen's.

Thanks for that, I was looking for a place to put my next comment, and this provides a perfect sequay without me having to find the original conversation. :)

Some of you may recall some time ago where someone was pointing out that because sex education, teen pregnancies and STD's and such are way down compared to say the 1940's. I was trying to sleep, and my mind wandered a bit, and it occurred to me that maybe it's not a fair comparison, because this having to be 18 for everything is a relatively new thing. I mean, in the '20's and '30's the social norm was for a 16 year old to be married with kids, especially among the working class (meaning those that work in a non-managerial, labor intensive profession for those that want to play the "what do you mean by working class" bogosity), so not really the same context.

Or am I seeing something that isn't there?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 20, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
@Dallen: Glad you liked it. :)

Anyways...
https://plus.google.com/116593195967885611442/posts/SrVd66qNgJY
I'm quite proud of this post. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 20, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
Oh, cracked.com, I remember when you used to call shit out like this:

http://www.cracked.com/article_16078_the-5-most-ridiculously-over-hyped-health-scares-all-time_p5.html
http://www.cracked.com/article/158_5-irrational-fears-even-rational-people-have/
http://www.cracked.com/article_17084_5-ways-people-are-trying-to-save-world-that-dont-work.html
http://www.cracked.com/funny-5412-organic-food/

Oh, the memories. :-)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on July 21, 2014, 08:37:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2014, 10:21:25 AM
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When Cantwell is on (and not masturbating to his violent revolution fantasy) he is ON. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
"There exists in society a very special class of persons that I have always referred to as the Believers. These are folks who have chosen to accept a certain religion, philosophy, theory, idea or notion and cling to that belief regardless of any evidence that might, for anyone else, bring it into doubt. They are the ones who encourage and support the fanatics and the frauds of any given age. No amount of evidence, no matter how strong, will bring them any enlightenment. They are the sheep who beg to be fleeced and butchered, and who will battle fiercely to preserve their right to be victimized."--James Randi.

"It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other.

[...]

But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact. The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: "Your money, or your life." And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat.

The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the roadside, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful.

The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber. He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a "protector," and that he takes men's money against their will, merely to enable him to "protect" those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection. He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these. Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do. He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful "sovereign," on account of the "protection" he affords you. He does not keep "protecting" you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villainies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave."--Lysander Spooner
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
I can't believe I didn't post this earlier:  "Holding people to their own words is harsh?  Hardly.  It's called expecting a standard of integrity."--Hawkeye.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
Been a while since I've posted something from this guy:

Ludwig von Mises: "Only stilted pedants can conceive the idea that there are absolute norms to tell what is beautiful and what is not. They try to derive from the works of the past a code of rules with which, as they fancy, the writers and artists of the future should comply. But the genius does not cooperate with the pundit." - Theory and History

So true. :)
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Post by: dallen68 on July 22, 2014, 07:53:59 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 22, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
Been a while since I've posted something from this guy:

Ludwig von Mises: "Only stilted pedants can conceive the idea that there are absolute norms to tell what is beautiful and what is not. They try to derive from the works of the past a code of rules with which, as they fancy, the writers and artists of the future should comply. But the genius does not cooperate with the pundit." - Theory and History

So true. :)

Yes, the "norms" of any given society are fluid, although not related to "works" of any kind, I have a perfect example:

I weigh about 120 lbs @ 5'6" and I have since I entered high-school. By 1986 standards, I was exactly average. By 2014 standards, I am "severely underweight".
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 22, 2014, 10:45:18 PM
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Post by: Skm1091 on July 22, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 22, 2014, 10:45:18 PM
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Speaking of Muskets
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Post by: MrBogosity on July 23, 2014, 08:02:41 AM
Quote from: Skm1091 on July 22, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
Speaking of Muskets
(http://www.political-humor.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/puckle-gun.jpg)

Interesting tidbit: there were two designs of the puckle gun, one which was intended to fire round bullets at Christians, and one which would fire square bullets at Muslims.

If nothing else, it proved quite clearly that square bullets are a really, REALLY bad idea!
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Post by: AnCap Dave on July 23, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
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This is exactly how I feel about statism. That shit is far more toxic than religion could ever hope to be.
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Post by: evensgrey on July 23, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: D on July 23, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
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This is exactly how I feel about statism. That shit is far more toxic than religion could ever hope to be.

Not really, since Statism is just another religion (or group of religions, since each State has a different, and often mutually antagonistic, set of worshipers).
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 24, 2014, 05:25:36 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 23, 2014, 08:02:41 AM
Interesting tidbit: there were two designs of the puckle gun, one which was intended to fire round bullets at Christians, and one which would fire square bullets at Muslims.

If nothing else, it proved quite clearly that square bullets are a really, REALLY bad idea!

yeah, I do not understand the basis for the belief that Muslims require square bullets to be stopped. I mean, the Ottomans shot up lots of Persian (i.e. other Muslims), and they did fine with round balls...So did the Russians and Austrians.
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Post by: evensgrey on July 24, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 24, 2014, 05:25:36 AM
yeah, I do not understand the basis for the belief that Muslims require square bullets to be stopped. I mean, the Ottomans shot up lots of Persian (i.e. other Muslims), and they did fine with round balls...So did the Russians and Austrians.

I thought it was just the European Christian tradition of being even nastier to Muslims than they were to each other.  For instance, steel crossbows were banned from use in warfare against Christians for a period, but were considered perfectly acceptable to use on Muslims.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on July 25, 2014, 06:31:12 PM
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 25, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on July 24, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
I thought it was just the European Christian tradition of being even nastier to Muslims than they were to each other.  For instance, steel crossbows were banned from use in warfare against Christians for a period, but were considered perfectly acceptable to use on Muslims.

so did they believe we were supermen?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 26, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 25, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
so did they believe we were supermen?  :P

Not really, just that European Christians have a long tradition of treating those perceived as 'other' badly, and the more 'other' they are perceived as being, the worse they treat them.

Pretty much like most everyone, really.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 26, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
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I call bs on the "there's nothing wrong with the minimum wage laws, it's just the inflation of the currency." I understand that might have been rhetoric, but still annoying.  Unemployment increases for the win.  Otherwise, outstanding video. :)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
Some background on this.  Both of my parents are baby boomers....wee good fun.  Posted the following on Google Plus.  It is a rant...you have been warned.

So the bit about 1 dollar from 1964 being worth 25 dollars today is one more reason why whenever my mom says, "oh! You'll be making far more money than me or your dad did and have far more opportunities!" is complete bullshit.

While I'm sure my parents mean while, the above quote is simply not true. By every objective standard, baby boomers had (and still have) vastly more in that way than their children and grandchildren ever will or could (well, unless the state goes the way of slavery within the next few years...fat chance).  My mom was making 80 grand a year working as a partner in a law-firm...without a single day of college education in the 1980s (in her 20s) and without the college debt, and despite a lack of support from family plus whatever my dad was making as a union working for the Washington Post as a mailer...while I'm still unemployed (by choice, but still) at the age of 26 after 6 years of bullshit college. After accounting for inflation (and other nonsense) I will NOT be as financially well off as them in real terms unless I win the lottery and/or invest in a company that ends up being the next Standard Oil (good luck with the current economic climate of that and the regulatory burden).

Something similar to be said of doctors in both the USA and Canada who bitch about how they have to work long hours and have little time off, and teachers who bitch about class sizes.  Yes.  Because the former lobbied for the AMA's monopoly thus restricting the supply of doctors to artificially boost their own salaries and the latter for teacher union bullshit to do the same.  You folks get no sympathy from me.  You all made that bed, you can damn well sleep in it.

Something similar could also be said of baby boomer parents who bitch about "EEEEH! My kids had to move back in with me because they can't get jobs and have more debt than we paid for the house!" Again, as the folks who fell for that entitlement crap hook line and sinker who have known that this stuff would not last and who knowingly doomed their children and grandchildren to financial ruin, that is on you, not, "THEM LAZY GOOD FER NOTHIN' MILLENIALS (that I raised and am therefore responsible for...oops)"  Sorry boomers, You get no sympathy from me.  You made that bed, you can damn well sleep it in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 28, 2014, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 27, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
So the bit about 1 dollar from 1964 being worth 25 dollars today is one more reason why whenever my mom says, "oh! You'll be making far more money than me or your dad did and have far more opportunities!" is complete bullshit.

It actually wasn't, until the generation after the Baby Boomers. They're the last ones for whom it was true.

QuoteSo yeah. I will NOT be as financially well off as them in real terms unless I win the lottery and/or invest in a company that ends up being the next Standard Oil (good luck with the current economic climate of that and the regulatory burden), even worse is that they both seem to support--fully--the policies that enable this shit...just...wtf.

My mother was a child of the Depression whose mother was a single mom who had her at age 16. She did not come from a rich family. She got her cosmetology license (MUCH easier in those days) and became a manicurist in a barber shop, saving up as much money as she could so my mother could have a future. It wasn't much, but fortunately, college was cheap in those days, and the combination of what her mom had saved up for her and how much she got working at starting wages was enough for my mom to get her math degree--WITHOUT having a student loan.

My father was likewise a child of the Depression from a poor family. He only attended 1 or 2 years of college before being drafted into the Army. He took the opportunity there to learn engineering and became a surveyor. He became the first member of his family to not be a farmer. (His brother, my uncle, continued to work the farm.)

In the early '60s, my parents built a 2000-square-foot 3-bedroom ranch-style home on a 2½-acre lot, where my mother still lives. It cost them around $25,000 (one year's pay for my father) and they had it paid off in 10 years. By comparison, I built a similar house (only with 4 bedrooms instead of 3, but it's still just under 2000 square feet) in 2001 on a 1½-acre lot and it cost me $170,000. I have ~17 more years of paying a mortgage which represents half my bills. This in addition to having several more years of a student loan to pay off from getting my 4-year degree (don't listen to their bullshit when they tell you it's paid off in 10 years; it isn't. I'm going on 20 right now).

The years of the Tech Bubble was the only time I was being paid comparable to what my father was making, after adjusting for inflation. I haven't come close since.

Even without considering the hideous state of the current economy, there is just no way I could be said to be as well off as my parents.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 28, 2014, 09:51:57 AM
It actually wasn't, until the generation after the Baby Boomers. They're the last ones for whom it was true.

My mother was a child of the Depression whose mother was a single mom who had her at age 16. She did not come from a rich family. She got her cosmetology license (MUCH easier in those days) and became a manicurist in a barber shop, saving up as much money as she could so my mother could have a future. It wasn't much, but fortunately, college was cheap in those days, and the combination of what her mom had saved up for her and how much she got working at starting wages was enough for my mom to get her math degree--WITHOUT having a student loan.

My father was likewise a child of the Depression from a poor family. He only attended 1 or 2 years of college before being drafted into the Army. He took the opportunity there to learn engineering and became a surveyor. He became the first member of his family to not be a farmer. (His brother, my uncle, continued to work the farm.)

In the early '60s, my parents built a 2000-square-foot 3-bedroom ranch-style home on a 2½-acre lot, where my mother still lives. It cost them around $25,000 (one year's pay for my father) and they had it paid off in 10 years. By comparison, I built a similar house (only with 4 bedrooms instead of 3, but it's still just under 2000 square feet) in 2001 on a 1½-acre lot and it cost me $170,000. I have ~17 more years of paying a mortgage which represents half my bills. This in addition to having several more years of a student loan to pay off from getting my 4-year degree (don't listen to their bullshit when they tell you it's paid off in 10 years; it isn't. I'm going on 20 right now).

The years of the Tech Bubble was the only time I was being paid comparable to what my father was making, after adjusting for inflation. I haven't come close since.

Even without considering the hideous state of the current economy, there is just no way I could be said to be as well off as my parents.
Very interesting...As for the this:  "(don't listen to their bullshit when they tell you it's paid off in 10 years; it isn't. I'm going on 20 right now)." makes me glad I only have about $23,000 in debt...they say 10 years and have a payment schedule and plan and everything mapped out online on their website.  My mom seems convinced of it.  I tried to warn her about getting a loan for this...god help us both...she calls me naive and silly/stupid for wanting to just knock all of that debt (if not a mortgage too) all at once...but honestly? Until I get some good reason(s) otherwise, that's probably going to be my plan....I hate being in debt--emotionally, financially,etc.  I always have, even as a young child.  I've ALWAYS been the one who saved his allowance and rarely if ever spent it if he could get away with it.  It's a reason I revile and hate inflation. >.<*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 28, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 28, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
Very interesting...As for the this:  "(don't listen to their bullshit when they tell you it's paid off in 10 years; it isn't. I'm going on 20 right now)." makes me glad I only have about $23,000 in debt...they say 10 years and have a payment schedule and plan and everything mapped out online on their website.  My mom seems convinced of it.  I tried to warn her about getting a loan for this...god help us both...she calls me naive and silly/stupid for wanting to just knock all of that debt (if not a mortgage too) all at once...but honestly? Until I get some good reason(s) otherwise, that's probably going to be my plan....I hate being in debt--emotionally, financially,etc.  I always have, even as a young child.  I've ALWAYS been the one who saved his allowance and rarely if ever spent it if he could get away with it.  It's a reason I revile and hate inflation. >.<*

Yeah. Another lie they tell you is that it'll be the lowest interest rate you have. My student loan is 7.75%, compared to my mortgage which is only 6%!
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Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 29, 2014, 01:00:21 AM
well, now that I have a job, I seem to be the exception to the rule: I make more than Dad (before taxes anyways: afterwards it is about the same), and promotion is not far away.

then again, I'm from the Arab world, and Dad works there, so it isn't that great an achievement.  :shrug:

also:

@ Travis: yeah, they're playing you for a sucker (which you clearly aren't): I have a lower interest rate on my Truck...and my card...and everything else really.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 29, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44185-the-purge
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Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 29, 2014, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 29, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44185-the-purge
For once NC is in here.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 30, 2014, 01:48:10 PM
http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Don-t-go-green-go-smart-235820094
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Post by: Travis Retriever on July 30, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
I HAD to make it.

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You're welcome in advance, Hawkeye :P
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on July 30, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 28, 2014, 09:51:57 AM
It actually wasn't, until the generation after the Baby Boomers. They're the last ones for whom it was true.

Me & you is the generation after the Baby Boomers, and I think it stopped being true before we graduated high school. I'm talking year of birth/graduation here, not about whether your parents are actually boomers. Kinda like in general conversation, "Gen X" applies to everyone born between 1965-about 1980 [ish]. In the original book, the term only applied to those born to depression era parents, who were having "later-in-life" babies, many of whom for the second time. I guess they wanted another chance after the baby boomers they made.

QuoteMy mother was a child of the Depression whose mother was a single mom who had her at age 16. She did not come from a rich family. She got her cosmetology license (MUCH easier in those days) and became a manicurist in a barber shop, saving up as much money as she could so my mother could have a future. It wasn't much, but fortunately, college was cheap in those days, and the combination of what her mom had saved up for her and how much she got working at starting wages was enough for my mom to get her math degree--WITHOUT having a student loan.


My father was likewise a child of the Depression from a poor family. He only attended 1 or 2 years of college before being drafted into the Army. He took the opportunity there to learn engineering and became a surveyor. He became the first member of his family to not be a farmer. (His brother, my uncle, continued to work the farm.)

My grandfather, who was a child of the depression, was a married man with five children on his eighteenth birthday. Some family members argue up and down that that isn't true, but his birth certificate says 1929, so he would have been 18 in 1947. My father's birth certificate says 1948, and he's the youngest of six siblings - therefore, it cannot not be true.

Anyways, he still ended up graduating from high school (unlike for our generation, and those that followed, and possibly the boomers...) , apparently that in itself was an accomplishment in the late '40's. He eventually earned his engineering degree... but it took him like 30 years to do it. He worked maintenance at the Detroit Y for about 40 years, and he never really had anything in the way of possessions, except a small house.

My father had lots of possessions, like most baby boomers, but, let's just say he was on a first name basis with the repo man.

This in addition to having several more years of a student loan to pay off from getting my 4-year degree (don't listen to their bullshit when they tell you it's paid off in 10 years; it isn't. I'm going on 20 right now).

The years of the Tech Bubble was the only time I was being paid comparable to what my father was making, after adjusting for inflation. I haven't come close since.

Even without considering the hideous state of the current economy, there is just no way I could be said to be as well off as my parents.
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Well, IF you get the job that your studying for (good luck with that, btw), and your starting salary is the thing they showed you when you signed up for the program, it would take around ten years. To bad most people have to work in the field for about 15 years AFTER college to get that "starting career position".

And yes, there is no way I could be as well off as my parents thought they were. Maybe if they had some reality in the '60's instead of "free love" and "flower power", and then a mass competition to make up for the materialism they pretended didn't exist in the '80's, they would have been... "more realistically situated?" And you, me, and Travis wouldn't all be in the shit.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on July 31, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
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Post by: Skm1091 on July 31, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on July 31, 2014, 10:26:09 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 01, 2014, 10:24:47 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 01, 2014, 12:53:43 PM
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Cutting back:  for the peasants, not for the cultural elite.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on August 01, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 01, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 03, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
"Morality is actually very simple.  It's only made complicated by all the people trying to sneak in exceptions for themselves."--Hawkeye's friend, Wraith
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/future-bayesian-bodybuilding-ii/
In the comments of the above, one I left.  Note that the "you" in this is referring to Menno:
"http://dynamicduotraining.com/ask-the-experts-round-table-discussions/18-nutrition-myths-want-know-allow-experts-tell/
Jacob M. Wilson's talk kind of annoyed me.

For one, the results for whey vs casein sounded suspiciously large and unidirectional.  This seemed a bit odd, especially when you've told people in the comments of your articles on this site that the main focus should be getting a complete animo acid profile, noting that evolution has made the body very efficient with proteins. Maybe it was in a different context?

"The final flaw of IIFYM, is that it doesn't matter when you consume your macros, how they are distributed, or how many meals they are consumed over."
I thought that was a feature, not a bug,  IIFYM always struck me as an understandable reaction to all the food fear-mongering I've seen not just from gym goers, health nuts, and worried mothers; but even from doctors and dieticians and other health professionals.
That's not to say there's is not or cannot be more to food timing and the like than CRNT and IIFYM, but it just seems like some of the stuff he's presenting (especially with the whey protein) just strikes me as a bit in the too good to be true for whey.  Also, I wonder how it would compare to just good old fashioned whole milk.

The protein serving talk made me raise an eyebrow  According to your posts on the bodybuliding.com forums on your protein timing article, you can eat 1 meal of protein and do as well (or even better) as someone eating 4 or 8 meals of protein.  "Absolute meal frequency is irrelevant."--as you said in your protein timing article.  Did the studies Jacob present use better methodology and/or more representative groups or have greater statistical power than the ones you did?

As did the comments regarding timing of fat, etc, especially when in your CRPT article you noted: "You can skip breakfast without sacrificing gains to cortisol, absolute meal frequency is irrelevant, carbs and fats can be eaten at any time of day and you can go without food for a long time without losing muscle."  Same questions as above, better methodologies as in the previous studies?"

Yeah, I figured I'd be nicer...didn't want to sour relations with Menno.  He's been a very cool dude.
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Post by: Dukect45 on August 05, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
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Post by: ArtemisVale on August 05, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on August 05, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
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I  wonder if we should invite him to the show? :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on August 06, 2014, 12:49:21 AM
Quote from: Dukect45 on August 05, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
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gun controllers really seem to getting desperate recently, haven't they?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on August 07, 2014, 01:18:26 AM
Whoopi Goldberg says something smart for once.
http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2014/08/whoopie-goldberg-says-bad-teachers-should-not-get-tenure-on-her-show-teacher-unions-go-crazy-video/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 07, 2014, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on August 07, 2014, 01:18:26 AM
Whoopi Goldberg says something smart for once.
http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2014/08/whoopie-goldberg-says-bad-teachers-should-not-get-tenure-on-her-show-teacher-unions-go-crazy-video/

Of course they went crazy.  The purpose of unions is to protect the poorly performing workers in whatever workplace is unionized.  Workers who perform well don't need unions.

Then there's the fact that the only employee segment that retains strong unionization is government (here in Canada, our Federal civil service even has a union for the managers and professionals in the civil service).  Socialists insist that workers need unions and governments to protect them from bad employers, but the only workers who are particularly seeking union protection are those who work FOR governments...
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Post by: ArtemisVale on August 07, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
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Post by: Dukect45 on August 07, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
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This promo is why I still love Pro Wrestling
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 07, 2014, 05:08:27 PM
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Much love, Reddit. :)
source:  http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/1tomjl/staying_with_the_inlaws_this_christmas_so_much/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 07, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/faq
I don't agree with everything perfectly, but most of it is spot on enough to merit a post here.
The deal maker for me was this bit:

Quote from: Fitness Wiki on RedditHow can I avoid Starvation Mode?

Starvation mode is a myth that was popularized due to the Minnesota Starvation Experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment) in which subjects were given 50% of their daily calorie intake for months. The result? Well, they lost weight until they had almost no weight left to lose and their bodies simply could not get the calories ANYWHERE. Concisely put: starvation mode happens when you are, quite literally, wasting away. Not when you have a simple caloric deficit. Your body will make up for it with fat stores. That's what they're for. Do not worry about starvation mode. (http://examine.com/faq/how-do-i-stay-out-of-starvation-mode.html)

Dear OP:  Thank you.  If I had a dollar for every Armchair McExpert who has thrown "starvation/hibernation mode" at me, well, you get the idea.  Moral of the story, unless the person you're lecturing wouldn't look out of place in a picture of post WWII concentration camp victims, starvation mode is 100% irrelevant to them and your best course of action regarding this is to STFU with your so-called 'facts' you got from Yahoo News, Doctor Oz or a P90X/CrossFit commercial.

In even more detail on this topic, is Armi Legge from this article:  http://evidencemag.com/calories-count/
Quote from: Armi LeggeMyth #5: Your metabolism slows when you cut calories, so cutting calories doesn't work.

If this were true, starvation wouldn't be possible.

As you lose weight, you burn fewer calories. This is going to happen on every diet, and it's true for everyone.82,84,95,96 Except for extreme circumstances, however, this is almost never enough to completely stop weight loss.

In most cases, the drop in calorie burn is small, and only has a minor impact on your rate of weight loss.82

When obese people are forced to do hours of exercise and cut their calorie intake by 30%, they lost 123 pounds in 30 weeks. Their resting metabolic rates only dropped 504 calories per day over the normal drop caused by weighing less.97

In the Minnesota Starvation Study, people were forced to cut their calorie intake by 50% and walk 22 miles per week. After six months of straight dieting they lost 25% of their body weight. Their resting metabolic rates only dropped by about 225 calories per day. These people were also lean when they started dieting.98

There's also no evidence that the decrease in your metabolic rate while dieting is enough to cause weight gain. It's never happened in a single weight loss study in over 100 years. If it were going to, it would have happened by now.

Your metabolism drops slightly when you lose weight, but that's the price you pay for fat loss. It happens to everyone, and it's something you can minimize with the right behaviors. Calories still count.

Legge's sources beneath spoiler:
[spoiler]82. Dulloo AG, Jacquet J, Montani J-P, Schutz Y. Adaptive thermogenesis in human body weight regulation: more of a concept than a measurable entity? Obes Rev. 2012;13 Suppl 2:105–121. doi:10.1111/j.1467-789X.2012.01041.x.

84. Muller MJ, Bosy-Westphal A. Adaptive thermogenesis with weight loss in humans. Obesity (Silver Spring). 2013;21(2):218–228. doi:10.1002/oby.20027.

95. Rosenbaum M, Leibel RL. Adaptive thermogenesis in humans. International Journal of Obesity (2005). 2010;34 Suppl 1:S47–55. doi:10.1038/ijo.2010.184.

96. Major GC, Doucet E, Trayhurn P, Astrup A, Tremblay A. Clinical significance of adaptive thermogenesis. International Journal of Obesity (2005). 2006;31(2):204–212. doi:10.1038/sj.ijo.0803523.

98. Kalm LM, Semba RD. They starved so that others be better fed: remembering Ancel Keys and the Minnesota experiment. J Nutr. 2005;135(6):1347–1352. Available at: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/135/6/1347.full.[/spoiler]

In short, I do my homework.  All you Armchair McExperts are NOT going to bluff your way through this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2014, 04:12:23 PM
Another good bit from Armi Legge's article: http://evidencemag.com/calories-count/
Quote from: Armi Legge
Myth #10: Cutting calories makes you hungry; therefore, it's not effective in the long-term.

Eating less generally makes you want to eat more.

However, if you also choose more filling foods, you don't necessarily have to be hungry while dieting. When people increase their protein intake, for instance, they usually eat several hundred calories less per day without even noticing.24,27,28,119-121 The same thing usually happens when people eat more fruits, vegetables, and fiber.122

In some cases, people still get hungry when they eat filling foods. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to suck it up. There's no rule that says you can't experience any hunger while dieting. Over time you generally adjust to your new body weight and your hunger levels drop.

Another thing to keep in mind is that your food intake is affected by many things that aren't directly related to hunger.

    We eat more when food tastes good.
    We eat more out of bigger bowls.
    We eat more when we have more food choices.
    We eat more from highly palatable foods than from less palatable ones.
    We eat more out of wide containers rather than tall ones.
    We eat more when we're bored.
    We eat because food is available.
    We eat more because the people are around us eat more.
    We eat more because we eat too fast.
    We eat more because we lose track of our calorie intake. (http://evidencemag.com/self-monitoring-weight-loss/)
    We eat more because we're distracted.

Exercise also tends to help people control their food intake, despite the fact that it may also create a calorie deficit.123,124

Unless you're dieting to an extremely low body fat, (http://evidencemag.com/lean-physique-podcast/) you can generally manage your hunger levels with the right strategies.

Here's your takeaway:

Eating less doesn't always make you hungry.

Just because eating less sometimes does make you hungry, doesn't mean you can lose weight without cutting calories.
It reminds me of David Wong's crap saying, "HUR DUR BEING OBESE CHANGES YOUR BODY!" No shit Sherlock, but it works the other way around.  Unless you're trying to get so lean you wouldn't look out of place in a picture of hyper starved fashion models and/or contest ready drug using bodybuilders, you're likely going to be just fine.

The sources under spoiler as usual:
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24. Wycherley TP, Moran LJ, Clifton PM, Noakes M, Brinkworth GD. Effects of energy-restricted high-protein, low-fat compared with standard-protein, low-fat diets: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. Am J Clin Nutr. 2012;96(6):1281–1298. doi:10.3945/ajcn.112.044321.

27. Westerterp-Plantenga MS, Lemmens SG, Westerterp KR. Dietary protein – its role in satiety, energetics, weight loss and health. Br J Nutr. 2012;108 Suppl 2:S105–12. doi:10.1017/S0007114512002589.

28. Paddon-Jones D, Westman E, Mattes RD, Wolfe RR, Astrup A, Westerterp-Plantenga M. Protein, weight management, and satiety. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008;87(5):1558S–1561S. Available at: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long

119. Westerterp-Plantenga MS, Nieuwenhuizen A, Tome D, Soenen S, Westerterp KR. Dietary protein, weight loss, and weight maintenance. Annu Rev Nutr. 2009;29:21–41. doi:10.1146/annurev-nutr-080508-141056.

120. Halton TL, Hu FB. The effects of high protein diets on thermogenesis, satiety and weight loss: a critical review. J Am Coll Nutr. 2004;23(5):373–385. Available at: http://www.ysonut.fr/pdf/Ysodoc/C0302.pdf.

121. Soenen S, Westerterp-Plantenga MS. Proteins and satiety: implications for weight management. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2008;11(6):747–751.

122. Champagne CM, Broyles ST, Moran LD, et al. Dietary intakes associated with successful weight loss and maintenance during the Weight Loss Maintenance trial. J Am Diet Assoc. 2011;111(12):1826–1835. doi:10.1016/j.jada.2011.09.014.

123. King NA, Caudwell PP, Hopkins M, Stubbs JR, Naslund E, Blundell JE. Dual-process action of exercise on appetite control: increase in orexigenic drive but improvement in meal-induced satiety. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;90(4):921–927. doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.27706.

124. King NA, Hopkins M, Caudwell P, Stubbs RJ, Blundell JE. Individual variability following 12 weeks of supervised exercise: identification and characterization of compensation for exercise-induced weight loss. International Journal of Obesity (2005). 2008;32(1):177–184. doi:10.1038/sj.ijo.0803712.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 08, 2014, 07:27:35 PM
Great review except in the beggining when he talks about "blithering idiots coming out of the woodwork accusing me of imaginary bias" when that's been a completely legitimate criticism of him before. No wonder Jim and Yahtzee are the only two likable assholes on escapist.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9634-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Kids-Deserved-Better-Than-This?fb_action_ids=855849381106146&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B616176408500774%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.comments%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2014, 10:30:10 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10509731_10153033091651679_1010381050065775397_n.jpg)

Thanks to Hawkeye for sharing. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 08, 2014, 10:40:54 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on August 08, 2014, 07:27:35 PM
Great review except in the beggining when he talks about "blithering idiots coming out of the woodwork accusing me of imaginary bias" when that's been a completely legitimate criticism of him before. No wonder Jim and Yahtzee are the only two likable assholes on escapist.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9634-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Kids-Deserved-Better-Than-This?fb_action_ids=855849381106146&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B616176408500774%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.comments%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D

Thing is, you ONLY get to whip out the "nostalgia wanker" argument if the person compares the movie to the older material which Bob does not do at any point in the review so on this one, he's absolutely right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 09, 2014, 09:26:05 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 09, 2014, 09:51:23 PM
Because it made me laugh my ass off:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on August 10, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Fyi8xW4.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
http://evidencemag.com/why-calories-count/
A bit of a long read, but worth it for those who want to know the science behind this stuff.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
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So much win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 11, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 10, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
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So much win. :)

Canada has made an important (not to mention USEFUL) step forward in this area:  Canadian law recognizes that access to needed medical care in a timely fashion is a right, and does not allow government policy to interfere in the exercise of this right.  (Note the absence of any claimed right to get it paid for by anyone else.)

This was the result of a man in Quebec, who, after not being able to access treatment for a back problem through the government system, began looking for private means to pay for it.  The government of Quebec tried to prohibit private payment for services provided under the Quebec government system, and the courts slapped them (and all the other governments) down.

This is why I respond to comments praising the 'mandatory single-payer government system' in Canada with a reply to the effect of, "I'm glad I live in Canada, where mandatory, single-payer government medical systems ARE ILLEGAL."

"Progressives" don't dare try to do anything about this, either.  This was part of the basis for the Morgentaler decision, which declared Canada's (extremely restrictive) abortion law null and void.  But, because Parliament never changed it, the old text remains in the statute.  If the basis of the decision nullifying it was overturned, the old abortion law would automatically come back into effect.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 12, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on August 12, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
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It's like me, Hawkeye, and Morrakiu say:  feminism is the ideological embodiment of 1st world problems.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 12, 2014, 11:11:37 PM
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Thank you! At least some atheists see how repugnant it is to claim that "religion is a mental illness." Religion is merely a set of beliefs, which can easily be discarded by changing your mind. You can change your mind and stop being religious. Can you simply change your mind and stop being schizophrenic?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 12, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-play-game.html?zx=c132a75c4f961696
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2014, 11:42:12 PM
https://mises.org/daily/3631 ("The Fallacy of Intellectual Property" by Daniel Krawisz)
https://mises.org/daily/5025 ("The Fight against Intellectual Property" by Jacob H. Huebert)

Both are timeless. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2014, 11:46:33 PM
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"--Barry Goldwater.

"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies."--Barry Goldwater

Granted, he was no Harry Browne, but he did have his lucid moments. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 13, 2014, 05:50:41 PM
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Post by: Dukect45 on August 13, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 14, 2014, 11:39:40 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/libertarians-have-not-been-silent-about-ferguson/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 14, 2014, 01:50:26 PM
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My two cents on the above video, posted in the comments:
"Fuck Doctor Money. Your sex and biology is NOT a choice, anymore than sexual preference is a choice.  Only even moreso in this case.  Fuck those 'HUR DUR GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT' shit for brains who defend the atrocity he committed."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 14, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on August 12, 2014, 11:11:37 PM
Thank you! At least some atheists see how repugnant it is to claim that "religion is a mental illness." Religion is merely a set of beliefs, which can easily be discarded by changing your mind. You can change your mind and stop being religious. Can you simply change your mind and stop being schizophrenic?

Without getting into that video or whomever he's responding to, I'd say that in my opinion, it's not religion per se that's the mental illness, but the refusal to admit you're wrong when shown the data. And in that, it also applies to statists, anti-vaccers, etc.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 14, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/hLeOujf

When are SWJ's going to learn not to make such slippery declarations?  They should know someone who's done his homework is going to call it out like this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 14, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 14, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/hLeOujf

When are SWJ's going to learn not to make such slippery declarations?  They should know someone who's done his homework is going to call it out like this.

I guess us whities aren't supposed to get heart surgery, because Daniel Hale Williams was black.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Skm1091 on August 15, 2014, 11:28:23 AM
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Perfect descriptions of how the Creationist, Theocratic, and Statist mind works.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 15, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
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Yeah **** the police and the looters
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 15, 2014, 10:13:39 PM
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I love it when statethiest get pwned
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 16, 2014, 10:32:34 AM
(http://liberalbias.com/images/content/restaurant-receipt-500x666.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on August 16, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: D on August 16, 2014, 10:32:34 AM
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Really? The Obamacare fee is only 15 cents?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 16, 2014, 08:12:18 PM
https://plus.google.com/116593195967885611442/posts/82NdB6U6mnA
Vindication--the best feeling ever. Much love to cracked.com for making my day. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 17, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21442_5-insider-tips-not-getting-screwed-by-car-salesmen.html
Good to know for future reference. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 18, 2014, 08:57:51 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on August 18, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
I don't agree with John Oliver on everything, but this I agree with him 100 percent:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 18, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on August 18, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
I don't agree with John Oliver on everything, but this I agree with him 100 percent:

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Well, if you would agree with everything someone said and did that would be definately creepy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 19, 2014, 03:09:42 AM
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Internetaristocrat is back with a doozy.  I love it when he skips the sarcasm and goes straight for the throat.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2014, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 19, 2014, 03:09:42 AM
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Internetaristocrat is back with a doozy.  I love it when he skips the sarcasm and goes straight for the throat.
And not to be outdone:  https://plus.google.com/103985275484915334835/posts/FrkMV1hokv2

And like the hippies who, during Bush's Administration would cry "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!111" yet gave Clinton's little wars--including a bi-partisan sanctions regime that murdered over a half a million Iraqi children--a free pass.  Not a single word from them about that...Or Obama's wars with drone strikes.  Downright shameful.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Gumba Masta on August 19, 2014, 11:44:55 AM
Well.... at least they treat the people in those countries with the same respect and dignity that they show to their own.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2014, 04:48:10 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 19, 2014, 03:09:42 AM
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Internetaristocrat is back with a doozy.  I love it when he skips the sarcasm and goes straight for the throat.
And yeah, filing false DMCAs and other censorship? Congratulations gaming media, you've officially sunk to the level of YouTube Creationists like VenomfangX--the same people you no doubt would have mocked a few years ago.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 19, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
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Another one of these! Must be my birthday! ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 20, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
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If those of us who opt to eat meat were even half as douchey as ethical vegans.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 20, 2014, 02:22:07 PM
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Just WoW!
Wait...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on August 20, 2014, 10:46:14 PM
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A rant from a cool guy I know
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 21, 2014, 12:17:42 PM
So a while back, I posted this train wreck of an article:  http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/ in fail quotes.  After a while I decided to make an account over at cracked.com and post a response to it.  Now, the comments on it seem to be screwed up are only showing the replies posted on the day the article was published.  I figure I'll post this here because I don't want my comment to be wasted:

Quote from: Yours Truly
--Scientific articles/studies that disagree with what you said they said.

--A blatant SJW ("THIN PRIVILEGE!") bias.

--Verbal gymnastics ("fat cells are shrunk! Not removed!"--No shit, Sherlock.  It's the same with muscles when they grow unless you're a drug user)

--Ignores the HUGE possibility of selection bias (If I lost that weight, I'd just move on with my damn life. Why go into a registry?)

--Subject to vague nonsense (How long until you can say you "kept the weight off successfully?" 5 years? 20 years? 50 years? What if you go into bodybuilding and gain mostly muscle instead of fat?)

--Ignores obvious financial incentives.  What's that, Wong? You mean a company like Weight Watchers (which was where the 97% figure came from.  it was NOT "all dieters"--nice cherry picking), people who make exercise machines, and those who sell bullshit supplements have people yo-yo dieting so they'll keep paying them money until the sun explodes? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

Yup, this whole article is obvious troll/click bait.

Dear "Thin privilege" fucktards,
Eat less, move more and stop bitching about your "hormonal/glandular problems" and "bad genetics." Grow the fuck up and stop making excuses. It's one thing to lie to yourself & rationalize and even to say you're hot (protip: you're not), but stop lying to the rest of us who are in the process of overcoming that stupid crap and making the permanent lifestyle changes needed to get lean & active to maximize our health, longevity, & quality of life.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 21, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
speaking of which: how is your weight loss quest going? hope it is going well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 21, 2014, 05:11:14 PM
Thanks for the encouragement. :) The last month or two was kinda slow if not stopped, but I've since buckled down.  Overall I've lost about 60 lbs.  So an average of about 8 lbs lost per month.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on August 21, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2014, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on August 21, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
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I haven't watched, but my only turn off (from the title at least) was the "conservative/libertarian" bit...folks, conservatives are NOT libertarians.  Can we PLEASE put this myth to rest already. -.-u
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 22, 2014, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 22, 2014, 10:48:48 AM
I haven't watched, but my only turn off (from the title at least) was the "conservative/libertarian" bit...folks, conservatives are NOT libertarians.  Can we PLEASE put this myth to rest already. -.-u

I thinkbe libertarian/conservative he meant those who are at least economic libertarians or are for free markets.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 22, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
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We need to recruit this guy onto bogosity
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Post by: AnCap Dave on August 23, 2014, 07:43:09 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on August 26, 2014, 01:02:31 PM
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From the comments:

Billy Wardlaw
"Socialists and Capitalists actually agree on the most important idea - that is to make people's lives better.  The difference is that Socialists think they know how to accomplish this and yet fail, while Capitalists admit no one can know and yet succeed."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 26, 2014, 10:31:40 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-weird-decisions-that-have-made-modern-cops-terrifying/
Going by just the titles all I have to say to them is:  You're just realizing this NOW?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 27, 2014, 12:00:37 PM
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*STANDING OVATION!* :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 27, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
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The left side is pure fail. The right side is where the win comes in.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 29, 2014, 09:40:30 AM
Don't know exactly what political persuasion this guy is but he knows what he's talking about here.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 29, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
So balance out the posts I just made in fail quotes, here are some really good ones from this:  http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_909_39-surprisingly-profound-quotes-from-unexpected-sources/

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 31, 2014, 05:13:24 AM
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If I were a religious man, I'd say IA is doing god's work.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 31, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
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Including my response to it:

1:35--"Education under capitalism..." And THAT is all the proof I need to know that the OP you're responding to is a dishonest prick.  Those are SOCIALIST/STATIST education systems and have been for over a century.  I guess the OP missed that 120 year old memo; and didn't read his own damn Communist Manifesto--Plank #10 for those wondering.  Funny that when the USA had a free market in education, we had the best in the world, even better than Europe at the time...

I'd also like to know how him and every other socialist/communist/statist considers a system like the USA or much of the world that has all 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto enacted to varying degrees; AND all 28 Planks of the 1928 US Socialist Party enacted to be "capitalist" economic systems.  This is the 'doctor' from 500 years ago watching the patient die of anemia and saying, "Well, I guess we didn't use enough leeches!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 31, 2014, 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 31, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
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Including my response to it:

1:35--"Education under capitalism..." And THAT is all the proof I need to know that the OP you're responding to is a dishonest prick.  Those are SOCIALIST/STATIST education systems (I guess the OP missed that 120 year old memo; and didn't read his own damn Communist Manifesto--Plank #10 for those wondering), and have been for over a century.  Funny that when the USA had a free market in education, we had the best in the world, even better than Europe at the time...

I'd also like to know how him and every other socialist/communist/statist considers a system like the USA or much of the world that has all 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto enacted to varying degrees; AND all 28 Planks of the 1928 US Socialist Party enacted to be "capitalist" economics and systems.  This is the 'doctor' from 500 years ago watching the patient die of anemia and saying, "Well, I guess we didn't use enough leeches!"

Dammit you beat me to it xD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 31, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 31, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
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Including my response to it:

1:35--"Education under capitalism..." And THAT is all the proof I need to know that the OP you're responding to is a dishonest prick.  Those are SOCIALIST/STATIST education systems and have been for over a century.  I guess the OP missed that 120 year old memo; and didn't read his own damn Communist Manifesto--Plank #10 for those wondering.  Funny that when the USA had a free market in education, we had the best in the world, even better than Europe at the time...

I'd also like to know how him and every other socialist/communist/statist considers a system like the USA or much of the world that has all 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto enacted to varying degrees; AND all 28 Planks of the 1928 US Socialist Party enacted to be "capitalist" economic systems.  This is the 'doctor' from 500 years ago watching the patient die of anemia and saying, "Well, I guess we didn't use enough leeches!"

Didn't get to watch the whole video because...lag.
That said, our current education system (at least through grade 8) is based on the mass production lines of Henry Ford. I would suppose whether or not that qualifies as communist is a discussion you and I will have to have on another thread.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 01, 2014, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone remember that Muslim population bomb Youtube video?  The BBC has done an examination and found that it suffers from cherry-picking, quote-mining, and misinterpretation.
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8189231.stm)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 01, 2014, 04:07:26 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on September 01, 2014, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone remember that Muslim population bomb Youtube video?  The BBC has done an examination and found that it suffers from cherry-picking, quote-mining, and misinterpretation.
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8189231.stm)

Seriously? Now these dumbasses realize this?  :D

Better late than never.   :shrug:

Yeah, I remember. Some idiot made the mistake of violating the rules on my channel by sending this to me. He was blocked, complete with one particularly abusive pm from me. It is an easy video to debunk really. Most muslim countries are in terms of reproduction about average for the world..and that is just the beginning
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 01, 2014, 10:26:09 AM
Leo Laporte is really becoming a good voice of reason on the net neutrality issue; let's hope many others follow his lead:

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4:24: "I've said for a long time, the solution to the anti-competitive nature of our ISPs in the US...the answer to protect net neutrality, really, is not government intervention, which carries potential risks (you don't want the government getting too involved in the Internet). Competition would solve it, though, if yuo had many choices of ISPs, there'd be price competition, but there'd also be competition to provide net neutrality, the best service. You'd have a choice. But we don't, in most cases."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 02, 2014, 12:53:28 PM
http://msfhwraith.deviantart.com/journal/The-Creation-of-a-Social-Justice-Warrior-479821165

Wraith on SJW's.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 02, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
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Post by: AnCap Dave on September 02, 2014, 09:11:03 PM
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Post by: Dukect45 on September 03, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
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Post by: AnCap Dave on September 03, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
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Post by: MrBogosity on September 04, 2014, 12:33:06 PM
More win from Sean and Rachel. Yes, the mainstream news media in this country is one big corporate special interest group.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on September 04, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
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Mundane Matt here explains why Gamers are not Nazis :sigh: is this the best the SJW's can do
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 04, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on September 03, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
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And not to be outdone, Hawkeye's comment on it:

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life.
Give a man a fish each day and you make him your slave."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on September 04, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
For once, some sanity to come out of Tumblr:

QuoteI am so beyond tired of people claiming to have my best interests at heart trying to tell me how I'm allowed to think and feel.

I'm tired of "activists" spreading lies to try to make me feel like I'm too delicate and fragile to handle LIFE, all while claiming to do so in the name of "empowering" me.

I'm tired of people half my age trying to tell me how the world works, and what's best for me as a woman, when most of them are still living out of mommy and daddy's wallet, have little to no responsibilities in life, and are still guided by the same level of understanding of the opposite sex that they appear to legitimately believe in "cooties".

I'm tired of watching people be told that they aren't the women they feel they are, and are just "men trying to invade womens' spaces".

I'm tired of watching people be told that they're "traitors to their gender", and that their personal identity is just a way of gaining "male privilege".

I'm tired of watching people using gender as an excuse for bullying, violence, and even murder.

I'm tired of watching people using gender as some form of exemption from accepting blame, guilt, or responsibility for their own words and actions.

I'm tired of being told I have "internalized misogyny" for not blindly following the almighty "cult of the vagina" masquerading around as "feminism" these days.

I'm tired of people literally denying my existence simply because I ACTUALLY THINK FOR MYSELF.

I'm tired of people telling me they want me to be empowered as a woman, and then demonizing me when my ways of doing so don't fit into their definition of "empowerment" (which, nowadays, is little more than "You can't question what I do, and you have to do what I say, because I'm a woman, and I can accuse you of anything I want to if you don't, because our society has made it so only women receive sympathy, and will automatically side with me, even if I'm a disgusting excuse for a human being, and completely in the wrong.")

I'm tired of people that claim to be standing for equality ignoring when injustices are done to anyone that isn't them.

I'm tired of privileged women that say they want to stop the oppression of all women, but never seem to mention anything beyond what happens on their own doorstep.

I'm tired of people making it even harder for me to be taken seriously as a woman, because their actions have given the world reason to distrust us.

I'm tired of people who can't seem to differentiate between the terms "feminist", and "chauvinist".

I'm just completely and utterly tired of today's "feminism".

Someone award this person the internet, please!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 04, 2014, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on September 04, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
For once, some sanity to come out of Tumblr:

Someone award this person the internet, please!
@OP:  *STANDING OVATION!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on September 05, 2014, 12:49:25 AM
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And Razorfist hits it out of the park again
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 05, 2014, 07:01:10 AM
I don't think I've posted this here. It was written back in 1986, but it still speaks to me today:

QuoteAnother one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...

Damn kids. They're all alike.

But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?

I am a hacker, enter my world...

Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...

Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."

Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...

Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found.

"This is it... this is where I belong..."

I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...

Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.

You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.

My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

+++The Mentor+++
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 05, 2014, 10:18:16 AM
Another example of Gawker being complete and utter hypocrites.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 05, 2014, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 05, 2014, 07:01:10 AM
I don't think I've posted this here. It was written back in 1986, but it still speaks to me today:
You were a hacker? Damn. I didn't know that. Because of the lack of technology and internet where I live, etc, I never really got into computers like that. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 05, 2014, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 05, 2014, 10:58:30 AM
You were a hacker? Damn. I didn't know that. Because of the lack of technology and internet where I live, etc, I never really got into computers like that. *shrugs*

Yeah, it was an amazing time. No one knew what computers were, there was no Internet, and basically no one knew how to secure anything. So we were all free to explore.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 05, 2014, 04:26:50 PM
Wizards has been putting these kind of disclaimers in their books, like this one for the monster manual.

"Disclaimer: Any similarities between monsters depicted in this book and monsters that actually exist are purely coincidental. That goes double for mind flayers, which absolutely, utterly, and completely do not exist, nor do they secretly run the D&D team. Do we really need a disclaimer to tell you that? You shouldn't use your brain to consider such irrational thoughts. They only make the mind cluttered, confused, and unpleasantly chewy. A good brain is nice, tender, and barely used. Go ahead, put down this book and watch some reality TV or Internet cat videos. They're really funny these days. You won't regret it. We say this only because we love you and your juicy, succulent gamer brains."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 05, 2014, 06:58:01 PM
Regulate This! A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast (http://freakonomics.com/2014/09/04/regulate-this-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 06, 2014, 12:33:00 AM
http://rare.us/story/why-liberals-fear-hunger-games-and-other-young-adult-novels/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 06, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
http://thestickchick23.blogspot.com/2014/09/im-larper-and-im-okay.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 07, 2014, 12:33:29 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on September 07, 2014, 12:33:29 AM
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+1 cluons for you. :) And yeah, we see it now with libertarians with fucktards like Bleeding Heart Libertarians, the conspiracy mongers, and the alt med wackos.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 12:39:48 PM
And speaking of the above video, it reminds me of a lesson I learned with regards to people (or at least my mom)  Whenever you hear someone bitch about you not having empathy or whatever, you just know that said statement and what follows is bullshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 07, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 12:39:48 PM
And speaking of the above video, it reminds me of a lesson I learned with regards to people (or at least my mom)  Whenever you hear someone bitch about you not having empathy or whatever, you just know that said statement and what follows is bullshit.

Not necessarily. There are LOTS of times I've seen statists argue without empathy. The thing to do is call them out on it. So look at WHY the person is saying that and see if the reasons make sense. (Which, in your case, I'm sure they don't.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 05, 2014, 07:01:10 AM
I don't think I've posted this here. It was written back in 1986, but it still speaks to me today:
It's also amazing how well it applies not just to hackers, but folks like me, even to this day.  I've ALWAYS found my time on the internet and the people I know online like you, Dave, Hawkeye, etc vastly more fun and engaging than anyone I've ever met irl.  That not only includes my libertarian friends, but also my friends in the furry fandom.  It's a reason I want to go to a furry convention and maybe meet some of them irl. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 07, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Not necessarily. There are LOTS of times I've seen statists argue without empathy.
This doesn't logically follow from what I said. I didn't say "statists" I said people.  And I never said they *don't* argue without empathy.  Only that I find that when it is used, it's normally used as a bludgeon.

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 07, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
The thing to do is call them out on it. So look at WHY the person is saying that and see if the reasons make sense. (Which, in your case, I'm sure they don't.)
Can you give an example?

And yeah, I don't mean it as a first principle rule like burden of proof, I meant more as a Bayesian, hedging my bets kind of rule.  I've done this dance enough times to smell the bs a world away.  I've had that word been used as a bludgeon on me by my mom so many times as soon as I hear it, it's a Pavlovian response to disregard anything with and after it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 07, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 01:07:13 PM
And yeah, I don't mean it as a first principle rule like burden of proof, I meant more as a Bayesian, hedging my bets kind of rule.

Okay, you just stated it as a universal principle.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
Ludwig von Mises: "Virtually all the Christian churches and sects have espoused the principles of socialism and interventionism." Omnipotent Government p. 120
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
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"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it's not that you are anti-gun. You'll need the police's guns to take away other people's guns. So you are very pro-gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions." - Stefan Molyneux
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 07, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
"Political correctness is anti-empathetic because it has correctness in it. We all have biases, we all have prejudices and if we cant talk about them openly - if we get attacked for it then this is an anti-empathetic movement and therefore it cannot complain about a lack of empathy." --Stefan Molyneux
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Post by: AnCap Dave on September 07, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
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Post by: evensgrey on September 08, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: D on September 07, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
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It always seemed there was way to much effort being put into trying to suppress this for it to just be about one hypocritical Feminist prostituting herself to a handful of male gaming journalists.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
"A very good rule of thumb I've found:  If a person bitches about a problem caused by government, ignores govco's role in it, evades said role when it is brought up, or, worst of all, proposes political solutions to said problem (Climate Change Alarmists who guilt trip people for using power, eating beef, etc, while giving govco a free pass on this stuff being the best example of this), then the person is a bullshiter you can safely ignore."--Me inspired by Hawkeye.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 08, 2014, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on September 08, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
It always seemed there was way to much effort being put into trying to suppress this for it to just be about one hypocritical Feminist prostituting herself to a handful of male gaming journalists.

Except for the part where the hypocritical feminist (assuming we're talking about Sarkeesian, not the other hypocritical feminist) is 2014, and what this guy is talking about is 2011/12.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 08, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on September 08, 2014, 06:01:15 PM
Except for the part where the hypocritical feminist (assuming we're talking about Sarkeesian, not the other hypocritical feminist) is 2014, and what this guy is talking about is 2011/12.

I think we're talking about Zoe Quinn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 08, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 08, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I think we're talking about Zoe Quinn.

I was certainly talking about Zoe Quinn.  Sarkesian hasn't been caught actually prostituting herself (that is, trading sex for some benefit) so far as I know.  Reflexively supporting the suppression of calling someone caught doing it to preserve the climate of impunity that she needs to survive, sure.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 08, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 08, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I think we're talking about Zoe Quinn.

OH, yeah, for some reason I forget her name every time I'm not looking right at her... Wait, I forget her name when I am looking right at her, when I'm not I forget her existence.

Any chance #gamergate would go away if everyone else was like me?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 08, 2014, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on September 08, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
OH, yeah, for some reason I forget her name every time I'm not looking right at her... Wait, I forget her name when I am looking right at her, when I'm not I forget her existence.

Any chance #gamergate would go away if everyone else was like me?

Yeah, but for the wrong reason.

Zoe Quinn is merely a catalyst. The fact is, there IS an integrity problem in gaming journalism and has been for a long time. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 08, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/45
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Post by: Dukect45 on September 08, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
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AlphaOmegaSin Hits it out of the park with this WTF is wrong with the world
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Post by: Travis Retriever on September 09, 2014, 06:06:56 PM
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Post by: Dukect45 on September 09, 2014, 07:47:56 PM
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How to deal with police
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Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 10, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/826/635/8d7.png_large)

A professional photographer put a SJW in their place.  If you ever see this man in person, buy him a drink of his choice.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on September 10, 2014, 04:49:11 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2014, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 10, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/826/635/8d7.png_large)

A professional photographer put a SJW in their place.  If you ever see this man in person, buy him a drink of his choice.
@Pristine_Condition:  *Standing Ovation!*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/9-11-Commentary-481611641
Because I needed to share Shane's commentary on this.  As far as I'm concerned, he really hit it right out of the park with those. :)

And at the risk of stealing Shane's thunder:  http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html one of the few good pieces Wong has ever written.  Since Shane didn't feel like getting into the 9/11 "truther" bogosity in those pieces, I'll let David Wong rip them a new one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 11, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 10, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/9-11-Commentary-481611641
Because I needed to share Shane's commentary on this.  As far as I'm concerned, he really hit it right out of the park with those. :)

And at the risk of stealing Shane's thunder:  http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html one of the few good pieces Wong has ever written.  Since Shane didn't feel like getting into the 9/11 "truther" bogosity in those pieces, I'll let David Wong rip them a new one.

Actually, I did one for The Skeptic Wiki back in the day: http://web.archive.org/web/20080508071343/http://skepticwiki.org/index.php/9/11_coverup
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 11, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
"The same people who put the monsters under your bed are now telling you they're gonna protect you from them." —Everett Walker
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Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2014, 11:12:10 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 11, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
Actually, I did one for The Skeptic Wiki back in the day: http://web.archive.org/web/20080508071343/http://skepticwiki.org/index.php/9/11_coverup
Sweet! Adding to the journal entries (yeah, I posted not just on DA and Google Plus, but also on FA, IB, SF, and Weasyl. ) :)

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 11, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
"The same people who put the monsters under your bed are now telling you they're gonna protect you from them." —Everett Walker
True that. @_@ Personally, I find it hard to tell the difference between the "monsters" and the folks they're claiming to protect us from at this point.  Well, no, that's not true.  One has a violent monopoly, the other doesn't.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 12, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/Another-Salute-481868938
For Great Justice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 12, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
Excellent video on ethics in journalism.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 13, 2014, 02:32:43 PM
(http://explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/jealous.png)

(http://explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/sayinganything.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 14, 2014, 03:00:17 AM
"+djancak 'Do I have a RIGHT to pollute if nobody's complaining about it?' You don't have a right to pollute someone else's property without their permission. If they don't complain, that's fine, but they could turn around and complain tomorrow and you'd have no defense."--Shanedk in the comments this video:

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So it reminds me of an interesting experience I had.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 14, 2014, 03:00:17 AM
So it reminds me of an interesting experience I had.

Reminds me of the "mushroom farm" discussion way back on the JREF forum (starts about halfway down the page): http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=10843&page=3

(Warning: you'll have to slough through the "property rights means I get to kill and eat you" arguments.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
"It fascinates me to watch people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about do anything possible to avoid even an infinitesimal amount of examination that could breach their fantasy...This is not some subset of fanatics on Facebook—this has become The American Way. The gleeful disdain for consideration and correction. The abominable manners. The utter disregard for intellectual exchange. The absence of effort outside of anything beyond the issuing of lickety-split ridicule. The unrelenting refusal to learn. And tomorrow will bring a brand new day of more of the same." —Richard W. Memmer
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 14, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 08:31:28 AM
Reminds me of the "mushroom farm" discussion way back on the JREF forum (starts about halfway down the page): http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=10843&page=3

(Warning: you'll have to slough through the "property rights means I get to kill and eat you" arguments.)
My experience reminds you of that?  I ask because I don't see the relation. ^^;
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 14, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
My experience reminds you of that?  I ask because I don't see the relation. ^^;

Well, the post in general.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 14, 2014, 09:16:23 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21538_5-things-i-learned-as-sex-slave-in-modern-america.html
Slavery lives. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 16, 2014, 04:02:28 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 17, 2014, 02:05:53 PM
On my Google Plus feed:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1SKTaK3X97Q/VBizZNropcI/AAAAAAAArng/VaYIgemnvNw/s640-no/Pumpkin%2BLattes.jpg)
Making fun of Food Babe nonsense, one post at a time. X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 17, 2014, 11:23:58 PM
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...You know just because you cover them up doesn't mean one wont still stare O.O...also this pic is great
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 19, 2014, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on September 17, 2014, 11:23:58 PM
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...You know just because you cover them up doesn't mean one wont still stare O.O...also this pic is great

They even have their fake hipster glasses.  ^^
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 20, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 21, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
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pretty much...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 21, 2014, 04:48:43 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on September 21, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: D on September 21, 2014, 04:48:43 PM
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^QFT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on September 22, 2014, 02:15:48 AM
@ArtemisVale=I completely agree with your last game review. That being said, does Internet Aristocrat remind anyone else of ProfMTH?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 22, 2014, 07:03:49 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on September 22, 2014, 02:15:48 AM
@ArtemisVale=I completely agree with your last game review. That being said, does Internet Aristocrat remind anyone else of ProfMTH?

How so?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on September 24, 2014, 07:24:55 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on September 24, 2014, 05:23:30 PM
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This guy nails it
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 25, 2014, 06:23:14 AM
Clears this right up:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10426809_780372435358941_3359618437217159112_n.jpg?oh=ceac652e0cb177b198a21e2c7e50371d&oe=548B3219&__gda__=1422771880_d2e03b01d77ba0175b0487368b810b67)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on September 25, 2014, 04:03:38 PM
QuoteWhy does anyone in America make over minimum wage?

Simple question but the right question.

Wups wrong markup button
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 25, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: tnu on September 25, 2014, 04:03:38 PM
(http://?)

Simple question but the right question.
"Why does anyone in America make over minimum wage?" is the question, it's not showing up as an image.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 25, 2014, 06:11:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 25, 2014, 08:49:13 PM
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_1074_24-inevitable-advertisements-when-all-drugs-are-legal/

Hilarious!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 26, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
http://www.realsexism.com/
From this EmoRottie on Twitter (he RT a post with the link):
https://twitter.com/Daoyena/status/515591272179179520
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 27, 2014, 12:10:10 AM
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365328705/
SECRETS OF THE DEAD
Resurrecting Richard III
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 08:37:08 AM
Now this actually IS a bogus criticism of Sarkeesian:

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As much as I hate Sarkeesian for her obvious lies (obvious to even a non-gamer like me), I think she SHOULD be using LP video footage to demonstrate how the game is meant to be played, as opposed to making her own footage pretending that (for example) you're "supposed" to kill prostitutes and play with their dead bodies when the game actually discourages you from doing that! And it's clearly Fair Use anyway.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on September 27, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 08:37:08 AM
Now this actually IS a bogus criticism of Sarkeesian:

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As much as I hate Sarkeesian for her obvious lies (obvious to even a non-gamer like me), I think she SHOULD be using LP video footage to demonstrate how the game is meant to be played, as opposed to making her own footage pretending that (for example) you're "supposed" to kill prostitutes and play with their dead bodies when the game actually discourages you from doing that! And it's clearly Fair Use anyway.
Still, what did she need all $6,000 for?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on September 27, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Still, what did she need all $6,000 for?
$6,000? Are you talking about something other than her kickstarter? Because I was told her kickstarter made over $160,000.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
$6,000? Are you talking about something other than her kickstarter? Because I was told her kickstarter made over $160,000.

I think $6k was her original goal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 27, 2014, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
I think $6k was her original goal.
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 27, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 08:37:08 AM
Now this actually IS a bogus criticism of Sarkeesian:

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As much as I hate Sarkeesian for her obvious lies (obvious to even a non-gamer like me), I think she SHOULD be using LP video footage to demonstrate how the game is meant to be played, as opposed to making her own footage pretending that (for example) you're "supposed" to kill prostitutes and play with their dead bodies when the game actually discourages you from doing that! And it's clearly Fair Use anyway.

It's considered good etiquite to give credit where due when you do that.  Not only did she not, there was this one girl who asked if she'd do that and Anita's firm basically flipped her the bird.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 27, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 27, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
It's considered good etiquite to give credit where due when you do that.  Not only did she not, there was this one girl who asked if she'd do that and Anita's firm basically flipped her the bird.

Agreed, but the claim is that she STOLE the footage. Not only is it blatantly obviously Fair Use, but under copyright law the footage is owned by the gaming company, not the producer of the LP video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 28, 2014, 02:59:34 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on September 28, 2014, 12:50:38 PM
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(http://media2.giphy.com/media/b9aScKLxdv0Y0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on September 30, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
(http://puu.sh/bRJM2/0c54c53555.jpg)

So yes, notyourshield WAS started by a black guy and does indeed consist of a lot of minorities Rebecca.  Deal with it!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on September 30, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
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Great scene from a great movie
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 01, 2014, 11:20:45 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 02, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10450838_1483948158541901_6168182977942448754_n.jpg?oh=9b51df0ec353281868486190e47e223c&oe=54BDD7CE)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 02, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
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While this is an different type of Gamergate video I feel that the message here is good
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 04, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
Libertarian Kane once again being awesome as fuck.
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Great quote from the presentation:
"It really ticks me off when I hear leftists and statists talk about how the free market causes wealth inequality, the free market doesn't. The free market throughout history has allowed poor people to pull themselves up and has given people more socioeconomic ability to move up and down the socioeconomic ladder, up, than anything else in history.

Paul Krugman, who is a Keynesian economist par excellence, just wants to inflate like crazy, but yet he writes a column for the New York Times and it's called 'Conscience of a Liberal', because he loves poor people despite the fact that he's the guy that's killing them, but then he'll look at someone like me and say you hate the poor. I don't hate the poor, I hate the fact that they're poor."
—Glenn Jacobs
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 04, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on October 07, 2014, 10:27:22 AM
John Oliver taking Civil Forfeiture laws to task

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 07, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
From Badmouseproduction on thunderfots latest stef mol vid

QuoteDear thunderf00t.

You might in actual fact be very well said in your criticisms of Stefan, he definitely seems to stem some cultish tendencies, however...
My main issue is your attack on the idea of Non Aggression. Stefan is not saying that if people want others to pay taxes they therefore obviously want them to be shot, he is saying that that is the end result. If a person decides not to pay taxes, and then defends himself when he is taken away by the police, he will get shot, for doing no crime except refusing to hand over funds that are that person's property.

You can argue whether or not the state is efficient. However you cannot look me in the eye and say non contradictory that taxes are not theft. Whether or not these taxes do any good, taking money from someone without their permission is THEFT!

^QFFT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 09, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Anyone who knows me knows I am NOT a fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger, but this is just such a win response to the folks who say, "Uh c'mon, I don't want to bodybuild, I don't want to get so big that I look like him!" that I simply HAD to post it:

(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10707234_1490585851222320_292314640_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 09, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 09, 2014, 06:30:54 PM
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Based Milo is so based.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 10, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 10, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2014, 03:53:08 PM
http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/11/what-war-on-women/
If the title is any indicator, methinks this will be win. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 12, 2014, 11:17:08 AM
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Some good dark comedy from Key & Peele
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 12, 2014, 05:27:41 PM
Everything said by Sean Haugh here: http://www.wect.com/clip/10674828/decision-2014-us-senate-debate
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 13, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
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I imagine this being sung at a SJW.  It fits perfectly. :) The fact that this song is apparently featured/played in a dudebro game franchise like Madden makes it all the sweeter. X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 14, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
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Social justice warriors: So anti-racist, that they're somehow MORE racist than your average Klan member.

Also, more evidence of anti-GamerGate folks being completely psychotic and downright evil human beings.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 15, 2014, 08:33:26 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
As I've said to D (and likely to Hawkeye) before, these articles below are some of the best arguments against government--especially leftist stuff like welfare, govco schools, etc--I've ever seen.  Because how much easier would those lessons be to learn if we hadn't been indoctrinated with the opposite of the truth for YEARS by govco run schools? And yes, well aware of the irony that Wong and Cheese would NEVER admit to the libertarian slanting of these articles.  I've yet to read, "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne yet (the writing is just terribad...I'm talking Ayn Rand tier here with how much he repeats himself...there ARE other ways to show emphasis in writing that aren't as annoying), but I have a suspicion that if Harry were still alive and were to ignore the SJW bits from Wong, he'd give an approving nod to these:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-useless-pieces-advice-everyone-gives/

Okay, anyone who knows me knows that I do NOT like David Wong, especially with his SJW and "the sky is falling!" bends, however, ignoring the bits where he lets his SJW side slip in these (only holding the guy to the standards and not the girl in harsh truths one; or what comes off as 'thin privilege!111' bollocks in the useless advice one), the articles themselves are very good.

Like a very well written self help book that doesn't suck, or a advice from a wise old relative who actually knows what they're talking about.

Personally, I thought John Cheese said it better regarding the 'grown up hobbies' bullshit Wong was espousing: 
"First of all, don't look at your parents boring lives and assume that being an adult means living according to their template. No, you don't have to ditch the video games and take up a 'grown up' hobby like golf if you don't feel like it. See, once you're an adult, you get to decide."--
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/

And speaking of John Cheese, some really win 'self help' ish articles from him that are very win as well:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-dont-miss-your-20s-when-theyre-over/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-high-school-doesnt-prepare-you-work/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pieces-advice-every-high-school-graduate-should-get/ (save for the last item--I mean, he IS aware that government authority is still a thing, right?)

As a final note, the "nice guys" bit was destroyed by Karen Straughan here:
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And I've posted stuff from Chateau Heartiste and from Paul Elam before noting that the "jerk" (read: alpha) behavior many talk about is, to an extent, what attracts many women for the same reason a large rack and a nice ass attracts men to women, rather than coming with stuff a lady finds desirable.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
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Shane delivers yet again. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 15, 2014, 05:51:15 PM
So, I was wandering about on YouTube watching some amusing pwnage of the apparently senile Malcolm Bowden, and a related video turns up that's a review of the unpolished turd that triggered the exposure of the whole sordid mess that #Gamergate is about.

I had no idea Zoe Quinn isn't even beyond marginally literate and purports to be a game developer.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 15, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
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Shane delivers yet again. :)

that he does. But....

while he's right that there are good correlations here, which were predicted in advance, I think a minor digression would have been in order, namely to explain the (relatively) large amount of scatter--especially the less economically free the country is. This would only make an already good argument near-watertight.

(I mean, has anyone else noticed? the countries not only become better at a given good thing, but also the scatter is noticeably less. And vice versa)

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on October 16, 2014, 01:12:51 AM
Ok, I was going to give screen shots with this, but since there is no scanning device at the fuck all, I've failed to figure out how to do that.

So any way, at 13:28 Shane claimes the blue box 1.75 inches from the right is the United States, which is fine, I'm not arguing with his point, which I agree with, but wtf is the greenish grey circle 1.25 inches from the right, and about an inch from the top?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 16, 2014, 06:31:10 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 15, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
that he does. But....

while he's right that there are good correlations here, which were predicted in advance, I think a minor digression would have been in order, namely to explain the (relatively) large amount of scatter--especially the less economically free the country is. This would only make an already good argument near-watertight.

(I mean, has anyone else noticed? the countries not only become better at a given good thing, but also the scatter is noticeably less. And vice versa)

True; you have a convergence as well as a trend. I also suspect a lot of the less-free countries might be fudging their data a bit...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 16, 2014, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on October 16, 2014, 01:12:51 AM
Ok, I was going to give screen shots with this, but since there is no scanning device at the fuck all, I've failed to figure out how to do that.

So any way, at 13:28 Shane claimes the blue box 1.75 inches from the right is the United States, which is fine, I'm not arguing with his point, which I agree with, but wtf is the greenish grey circle 1.25 inches from the right, and about an inch from the top?

Are you still talking about Voluntary Private Social Spending? There shouldn't be any green anythings on that graph. Maybe a glitch when YouTube encoded it?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 16, 2014, 07:22:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 16, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
As I've said to D (and likely to Hawkeye) before, these articles below are some of the best arguments against government--especially leftist stuff like welfare, govco schools, etc--I've ever seen.  Because how much easier would those lessons be to learn if we hadn't been indoctrinated with the opposite of the truth for YEARS by govco run schools? And yes, well aware of the irony that Wong and Cheese would NEVER admit to the libertarian slanting of these articles.  I've yet to read, "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne yet (the writing is just terribad...I'm talking Ayn Rand tier here with how much he repeats himself...there ARE other ways to show emphasis in writing that aren't as annoying), but I have a suspicion that if Harry were still alive and were to ignore the SJW bits from Wong, he'd give an approving nod to these:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-useless-pieces-advice-everyone-gives/

Okay, anyone who knows me knows that I do NOT like David Wong, especially with his SJW and "the sky is falling!" bends, however, ignoring the bits where he lets his SJW side slip in these (only holding the guy to the standards and not the girl in harsh truths one; or what comes off as 'thin privilege!111' bollocks in the useless advice one), the articles themselves are very good.

Like a very well written self help book that doesn't suck, or a advice from a wise old relative who actually knows what they're talking about.

Personally, I thought John Cheese said it better regarding the 'grown up hobbies' bullshit Wong was espousing: 
"First of all, don't look at your parents boring lives and assume that being an adult means living according to their template. No, you don't have to ditch the video games and take up a 'grown up' hobby like golf if you don't feel like it. See, once you're an adult, you get to decide."--
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/

And speaking of John Cheese, some really win 'self help' ish articles from him that are very win as well:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-dont-miss-your-20s-when-theyre-over/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-high-school-doesnt-prepare-you-work/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pieces-advice-every-high-school-graduate-should-get/ (save for the last item--I mean, he IS aware that government authority is still a thing, right?)

As a final note, the "nice guys" bit was destroyed by Karen Straughan here:
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And I've posted stuff from Chateau Heartiste and from Paul Elam before noting that the "jerk" (read: alpha) behavior many talk about is, to an extent, what attracts many women for the same reason a large rack and a nice ass attracts men to women, rather than coming with stuff a lady finds desirable.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/01/07/tribalism-isnt-about-feelings-its-about-the-zero-sum-outlook/
The title alone is win.  Ironic that this was something David Wong linked to when talking about change...when he wrote that article on rich people that was just one big fat zero sum fallacy...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 16, 2014, 11:11:34 PM
http://www.healthylivingheavylifting.com/stop-trying-to-be-hardcore/
All of my yes. :) posted by Layne Norton and I RT on my account for Great Justice. :)
Hell, I even get fallacious bogosity from friends and family, some of whom have never been fat and have NEVER tried to lose weight in their lives and will never have to think about it.

It's like, bro, #DoYouEvenScience
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 16, 2014, 11:34:03 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 16, 2014, 06:31:10 AM
True; you have a convergence as well as a trend. I also suspect a lot of the less-free countries might be fudging their data a bit...

Indeed, but also I sispect differences due to different governmt styles , resources, population, religion, etc
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 17, 2014, 07:41:13 AM
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These three ladies kicked the shit out of the anti-#GamerGate crowd.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 18, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/10/17/Supporting-GamerGate-Does-Not-Make-You-a-Bully
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 20, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
Richard Carrier (historian who actually does his best to really do his homework) goes into Bayes Theorem (and a number of other things in his usual only apparently wandering style).

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 20, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/992092/
Moral of the story: the most successful politicians are the most sociopathic politicians.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 21, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
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so are the Hussites back in business? :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 21, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 21, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
so are the Hussites back in business? :P

>Hussites
>not Hussies

I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 22, 2014, 08:44:30 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 22, 2014, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on October 22, 2014, 08:44:30 AM
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I don't get it. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 22, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
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More from BASED KANE.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 22, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 22, 2014, 10:58:15 AM
I don't get it. :(
Skeletons have damage resistance except against bludgeoning weapons : O
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 22, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 22, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
You'll need to turn captions on to understand it, unless you are fluent in French.

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That said, this is some serious win, and a potential Silver Cluon.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on October 23, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
Quote from: D on October 22, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
You'll need to turn captions on to understand it, unless you are fluent in French.

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That said, this is some serious win, and a potential Silver Cluon.

Penn & Teller did a show where they did pretty much the same thing (except I think it was KFC). Other lessoned learned: the reason fast food tastes inferior is because people tell you fast food tastes inferior; if you don't know it is fast food, it tastes fine.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 23, 2014, 07:09:57 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on October 23, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
Penn & Teller did a show where they did pretty much the same thing (except I think it was KFC). Other lessoned learned: the reason fast food tastes inferior is because people tell you fast food tastes inferior; if you don't know it is fast food, it tastes fine.

One thing I noticed that P&T didn't point out was, the Wisdom of Crowds actually worked with fast food: average together everyone's guesses and they're VERY close to the number of calories. Screw up people's perceptions of "health" food and all of a sudden they're underestimating the calories.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 23, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
https://libertariangaming.org/?p=298
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 23, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 23, 2014, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on October 23, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
https://libertariangaming.org/?p=298

"Yep. I got detention for not fighting back." Know EXACTLY how he feels.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 24, 2014, 05:56:04 PM
QuoteCall me crazy but I've always said if nothing happens in your story that couldn't happen in real life, you're wasting the medium.

QuoteSo apparently that was Jack Thompson's big mistake, he should have gotten a woman to hawk his nonsense and everyone would have just taken him at his word, no citation needed.
Boy, I wish I was so oppressed that everyone just took me for my word on absolutely everything...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 26, 2014, 01:07:36 PM
With Sincere apologies to BlameThe1st for posting this:

(http://cdn.funchoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/9-AA-After-Abortion.jpg)

Posted to fav quotes because it made me laugh.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 26, 2014, 02:24:29 PM
http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/10/26/stop-pretending-care-school-shootings/
To make up for my last post. :) Well said Cantwell.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 26, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
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An interesting video about the Skinner box
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on October 26, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
Quote"If we really had no right to complain about stuff because others have it worse, then by that logic, people like Michael Moore and every radio talk show host should be out of a job, and most of the northern hemisphere should be dead silent, because the only people who have a right to complain are those in Somalia, Afghanistan, Sudan, etc."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 27, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
(http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2600/fc02568.png)

While screamingly funny, it's also quite poignant.

(For those not wanting to read through over a decade's worth of thrice-weekly strips, read the spoiler.  For those that do, go here http://freefall.purrsia.com/ (http://freefall.purrsia.com/).)

[spoiler]The chip is Doctor Bowman, a first-generation uplifted animal, intended to be a soldier.  This didn't work at all well, but he ended up becoming a key scientist in the development of a much better and more generalized uplift technology that not only has in-built safeguards to prevent the uplifted from turning out as rage-fueled psychopaths like him, but also is applicable to Terran animals, alien animals, and poorly-built neural network computers.  The wolf is Florence Ambrose, a Bowman's Wolf, second-generation uplifted animal, who grew up essentially like a human child and has trained as an engineer.  He was very upset by how her 'off switch' has been abused recently and has just changed her security settings to prevent her being damaged by such abuse in the future.  In terms of time, the strip has been running for about 16 years, and covered less than one month for the characters.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 27, 2014, 06:46:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 28, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
"Context determines meaning."--Hawkeye was the one who first said it to me, but I doubt he was the first to ever say it.

This is, by far the best advice in terms of reading/conversation comprehension I've ever gotten. Very helpful for figuring stuff out.  Example, when talking about weight gain, if it's around, say, two women trying to lose weight, they will likely be talking about fat because how many women do you know want to look like Ronnie Coleman?  If it's say, between some skinny guys in the gym, they're likely talking about gaining some muscle.  Context.  It's not just a buzzword used by Christians failing to defend their dogma.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on October 29, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on October 29, 2014, 04:10:08 AM
A nice little reminder for the SJW's out there
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on October 29, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on October 29, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
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Mentioning the free market and reason magizine without demonizing them? Subscribed!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on October 31, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 31, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
"If you want to make a lot of noise and get nothing done, join a protest."
From
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 01, 2014, 01:37:53 AM
"Standards of morality are no substitute for economic logic. Economics requires study and systematic thinking about the implications of action, choice, and ownership in a world of scarcity. It is a science that delineates the limits of how far the human mind can wander when thinking about what society can and should be. This is one reason that intellectuals, even great ones, take such pains to avoid studying economics, and instead latch on to fantasies like socialism and syndicalism."--James Ostrowski, Chomsky's Economics:  https://mises.org/daily/1132
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 02, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
"We are all expendable."--Don't know if this is a fav or fail (too tired), but I suppose I'll just stick it here for now.

"People who brag about how 'experience' is better than books have always annoyed me, and I think I found out why.  They can never ever show or say why or how that is the case.  Don't get me wrong.  The best way to learn something, I've found, is being taught by someone who knows their shit.  But why can't these people ever put their money where their mouth is and just put their guru/sage advice into words and have the rest of us mere bookworms be that much better? Or could it be all their bragging about the 'virtues of experience over books' is nothing but hot air?  That they really don't know the shit as good as they think?"--Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 03, 2014, 03:33:35 PM
Just read this in a book I bought the other day:

QuoteSome things have to be investigated, just in case someone else gains an advantage from them. A report that a psychic had killed a goat prompted an investigation in the US military into the possible military application of psychic powers. According to reports, serious research is ongoing into this field, which does indeed involve soldiers determinedly trying to glare livestock to death.

Napoleon laughed at the idea of a ship powered by lighting a fire beneath its decks. Ancient generals would have sneered at the idea of men flying around in machines and attacking one another with self-guided weapons. The concept of directed energy weapons (lasers) or intercontinental missiles bearing the fires of Armageddon would probably have roused Caesar or Alexander to hysterical laughter. It may be that some day our psychic legions will look back at our rifle-armed ancestors with a mix of pity and amusement at their ignorance. It is, however, somewhat unlikely.

don't you just love the sarcasm dripping from this?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 03, 2014, 06:29:40 PM
leave it to the Palestinians to rip into ISIS....

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 03, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/post/68510378525/the-lost-dream-of-allegiance
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 04, 2014, 09:45:21 AM
Thoughts for Election Day:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on November 05, 2014, 03:38:13 AM
Dangit, Rock, why did your meme reference have to be wittier than mine!?

GameFAQs Contests: ~United States 2014 Midterm Election Stats & Discussion~ (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/70490923?page=1#90)

foolm0r0n: People just don't like Obama, and modern political culture has reduced all politics down to "do you like Obama?", so the candidates themselves don't matter.

Altimadark: Eight years ago, when the Democrats took congress, it was "Do you like W?"

War n-- I mean, Politics never change.

foolm0r0n: Politics... has changed

TheRock1525: And then politics was zombie
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 05, 2014, 09:39:52 AM
http://objectivistgirl.com/2014/04/anarcho-objectivism/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 05, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on November 05, 2014, 09:39:52 AM
http://objectivistgirl.com/2014/04/anarcho-objectivism/

Isn't anarcho-Objectivism a bit like atheist-Catholicism?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 05, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 05, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
Isn't anarcho-Objectivism a bit like atheist-Catholicism?

I don't see why you couldn't have that.  In Ottawa, near where I live, there's an atheist synagogue, for people who want to just perform essentially meaningless cultural rituals.  (They don't put it that way, but that's what it really is if you're performing the rituals of a religion you don't believe to be true.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 06, 2014, 04:51:24 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on November 06, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 06, 2014, 02:26:28 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/02/russell-brand-s-revolution-for-morons.html?via=desktop&source=facebook

I wish the article pointed out the stolen R[love]ution bran :T
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 06, 2014, 10:05:57 PM
More awesome (good) advice from John Cheese. :)
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-worst-things-people-do-when-trying-to-help/
From #1 on that:  "Ask yourself, 'What is it costing me to be in this relationship?' If the answer is your dreams, identity, or dignity, the cost is too high."--Doctor Phil
All my yes. :)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-most-quoted-pieces-advice-that-are-usually-wrong/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-common-pieces-advice-that-are-almost-always-wrong/

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/dog_paradox :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 07, 2014, 06:17:46 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 06, 2014, 10:05:57 PM
More awesome (good) advice from John Cheese. :)
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-worst-things-people-do-when-trying-to-help/
From #1 on that:  "Ask yourself, 'What is it costing me to be in this relationship?' If the answer is your dreams, identity, or dignity, the cost is too high."--Doctor Phil
All my yes. :)

And while not nearly as surprising as good advice from Doctor Laura, still pretty surprising.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on November 07, 2014, 06:17:46 PM
And while not nearly as surprising as good advice from Doctor Laura, still pretty surprising.
>>Doctor Laura
Okay, if I Google that, am I going to become stupider, angrier or both?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 07, 2014, 07:52:25 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
>>Doctor Laura
Okay, if I Google that, am I going to become stupider, angrier or both?

Most like, angrier.

If you watched the show Frasier, there was an episode that featured a parody of her called Doctor Nora, who was only a moderate exaggeration.

[spoiler]Doctor Laura is a physiologist by training, has only one failed marriage, and broke up one marriage, that of her second husband.  She also says mothers shouldn't be single or work, and she was both at once.  Doctor Nora was trained as a gym teacher, had two failed marriages, and a possibly unrelated affair with a married man.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 07, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 07, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
>>Doctor Laura
Okay, if I Google that, am I going to become stupider, angrier or both?

Dr. Laura is most widely known for popularizing the idea that you and nothing else is/are responsible for the problems in your life. She is also known for ranting on the radio. Picture Judge Judy giving psychological/marital/relationship advice and you pretty much got the show.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 09, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
As I've said to D (and likely to Hawkeye) before, these articles below are some of the best arguments against government--especially leftist stuff like welfare, govco schools, etc--I've ever seen.  Because how much easier would those lessons be to learn if we hadn't been indoctrinated with the opposite of the truth for YEARS by govco run schools? And yes, well aware of the irony that Wong and Cheese would NEVER admit to the libertarian slanting of these articles.  I've yet to read, "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne yet (the writing is just terribad...I'm talking Ayn Rand tier here with how much he repeats himself...there ARE other ways to show emphasis in writing that aren't as annoying), but I have a suspicion that if Harry were still alive and were to ignore the SJW bits from Wong, he'd give an approving nod to these:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-useless-pieces-advice-everyone-gives/

Okay, anyone who knows me knows that I do NOT like David Wong, especially with his SJW and "the sky is falling!" bends, however, ignoring the bits where he lets his SJW side slip in these (only holding the guy to the standards and not the girl in harsh truths one; or what comes off as 'thin privilege!111' bollocks in the useless advice one), the articles themselves are very good.

Like a very well written self help book that doesn't suck, or a advice from a wise old relative who actually knows what they're talking about.

Personally, I thought John Cheese said it better regarding the 'grown up hobbies' bullshit Wong was espousing: 
"First of all, don't look at your parents boring lives and assume that being an adult means living according to their template. No, you don't have to ditch the video games and take up a 'grown up' hobby like golf if you don't feel like it. See, once you're an adult, you get to decide."--
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/

And speaking of John Cheese, some really win 'self help' ish articles from him that are very win as well:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-dont-miss-your-20s-when-theyre-over/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-high-school-doesnt-prepare-you-work/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pieces-advice-every-high-school-graduate-should-get/ (save for the last item--I mean, he IS aware that government authority is still a thing, right?)

As a final note, the "nice guys" bit was destroyed by Karen Straughan here:
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And I've posted stuff from Chateau Heartiste and from Paul Elam before noting that the "jerk" (read: alpha) behavior many talk about is, to an extent, what attracts many women for the same reason a large rack and a nice ass attracts men to women, rather than coming with stuff a lady finds desirable.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pieces-advice-every-adult-wishes-they-got-as-teenager Another outstanding one. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 09, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 10, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
Can't believe I missed this:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 10, 2014, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 10, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
Can't believe I missed this:

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This is the sort of stuff George Carlin would have done if he'd thought his fans were smarter.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 10, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
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Speaking of George Carlin, here's part of an old show of his covering how rape is funny, and some things right and wrong with Feminism.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2014, 07:07:49 PM
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http://freedominthe50states.org/cable-and-telecom/tennessee

>>Fastest Internet in the country.
>>Has is #1 in telecom freedom.
Come on people! This isn't rocket science. XP
I mean, I know correlation doesn't imply causation, but damn, it's not like that's all we have.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2014, 07:59:10 PM
So according to Google,Penn Jillette is 6'6". I'm told Harry Browne was taller than Shane Killian (6'2'') and Kane/Glen Jacobs is almost 7 feet tall.
I guess you could say they're *puts on sunglasses* Libertarian Giants. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 12, 2014, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2014, 07:59:10 PM
So according to Google,Penn Jillette is 6'6". I'm told Harry Browne was taller than Shane Killian (6'2'') and Kane/Glen Jacobs is almost 7 feet tall.
I guess you could say they're *puts on sunglasses* Libertarian Giants. :P

Not libertarians, but the producer/director I'm doing the short with is an inch taller than me, and one of the actors is 2 inches taller.

Also, Lee Graham from Episode 5 of Bogosity is an inch taller than me.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 12, 2014, 08:14:37 PM
Not libertarians, but the producer/director I'm doing the short with is an inch taller than me, and one of the actors is 2 inches taller.

Also, Lee Graham from Episode 5 of Bogosity is an inch taller than me.
Dang you tall people! I'm only 5'9'' :P
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Post by: AnCap Dave on November 12, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 13, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 07, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/faq
I don't agree with everything perfectly, but most of it is spot on enough to merit a post here.
The deal maker for me was this bit:

Dear OP:  Thank you.  If I had a dollar for every Armchair McExpert who has thrown "starvation/hibernation mode" at me, well, you get the idea.  Moral of the story, unless the person you're lecturing wouldn't look out of place in a picture of post WWII concentration camp victims, starvation mode is 100% irrelevant to them and your best course of action regarding this is to STFU with your so-called 'facts' you got from Yahoo News, Doctor Oz or a P90X/CrossFit commercial.

In even more detail on this topic, is Armi Legge from this article:  http://evidencemag.com/calories-count/
Legge's sources beneath spoiler:
[spoiler]82. Dulloo AG, Jacquet J, Montani J-P, Schutz Y. Adaptive thermogenesis in human body weight regulation: more of a concept than a measurable entity? Obes Rev. 2012;13 Suppl 2:105–121. doi:10.1111/j.1467-789X.2012.01041.x.

84. Muller MJ, Bosy-Westphal A. Adaptive thermogenesis with weight loss in humans. Obesity (Silver Spring). 2013;21(2):218–228. doi:10.1002/oby.20027.

95. Rosenbaum M, Leibel RL. Adaptive thermogenesis in humans. International Journal of Obesity (2005). 2010;34 Suppl 1:S47–55. doi:10.1038/ijo.2010.184.

96. Major GC, Doucet E, Trayhurn P, Astrup A, Tremblay A. Clinical significance of adaptive thermogenesis. International Journal of Obesity (2005). 2006;31(2):204–212. doi:10.1038/sj.ijo.0803523.

98. Kalm LM, Semba RD. They starved so that others be better fed: remembering Ancel Keys and the Minnesota experiment. J Nutr. 2005;135(6):1347–1352. Available at: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/135/6/1347.full.[/spoiler]

In short, I do my homework.  All you Armchair McExperts are NOT going to bluff your way through this.
An update on this, since I've learned more, yes, metabolic adaption is a thing that happens so there is a grain of truth to the people scaremongering about starvation mode and the stuff David Wong said, but...long story short, adaptation works both ways:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on November 13, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 12, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Dang you tall people! I'm only 5'9'' :P
Dude, I'm 5'6"!  What are you complaining about?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2014, 02:40:31 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on November 13, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
Dude, I'm 5'6"!  What are you complaining about?
...Sorreh? ^^;
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Post by: MrBogosity on November 14, 2014, 08:24:59 AM
Man, buncha short people on this forum!

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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 14, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 14, 2014, 08:24:59 AM
Man, buncha short people on this forum!

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...Randy Newman? Shane, you're a meanie! *whimpers and lays in his bed, giving everyone who looks at him cute puppy dog eyes* :P

But back on topic:
"I'm a skeptic, unconformable truths are my specialty!"
"Of course I'm a virgin/don't get invited to parties/etc.  I'm a skeptic. No one wants to be near me because I'll tell them what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear!"
--Two lines, I'm just dying to use irl (or online to a woo) someday. :P

"People act like I'm dogmatic and stubborn and can't be convinced.  Quite the contrary! I love being proven wrong.  For example, I'd like to be proven wrong with government and indeed shown it can work, because getting to that form of government is far more probable than it ever being abolished and achieving anarcho capitalism.  Well, in my lifetime at least."--Me, inspired by a quote by Shane noting that, as a Skeptic he likes being proven wrong.  It just takes evidence, not bogosity, to do that.
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Post by: AnCap Dave on November 15, 2014, 07:10:04 AM
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 12:48:58 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-people-who-will-ruin-your-attempt-to-lose-weight/
#8 and #5.  I'm going to be blunt.  If you are one of those people, fuck you with one thousand HIV covered and barb spiked nuclear dicks.  That is all.  8)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 12:48:58 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-people-who-will-ruin-your-attempt-to-lose-weight/
As someone in the process of this, I can aboslutely verify and relate.  Especially #8 and #5.  I'm going to be blunt.  If you are one of those people, fuck you with one thousand HIV covered and barb spiked nuclear dicks.  That is all.  8)

#6 I agree with, but at the same time I think you should allow yourself those occasional indulgences. Pig out with the family on Thanksgiving, and have a small piece of birthday cake the 4 or 5 times a year you go to a birthday party. At the very least, have your own! Watching your weight shouldn't mean being a tyrant to yourself. They mentioned a similar thing with #4, and I think it applies here, too.

#3 I think is just bogus. Take some personal responsibility! There are healthy items on ANY menu (even McDonalds has salads), and no, NO waitress will give you a dirty look because you order them. They're on the menu, aren't they? And she wants her tip...
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 15, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
#6 I agree with, but at the same time I think you should allow yourself those occasional indulgences. Pig out with the family on Thanksgiving, and have a small piece of birthday cake the 4 or 5 times a year you go to a birthday party. At the very least, have your own! Watching your weight shouldn't mean being a tyrant to yourself. They mentioned a similar thing with #4, and I think it applies here, too.

#3 I think is just bogus. Take some personal responsibility! There are healthy items on ANY menu (even McDonalds has salads), and no, NO waitress will give you a dirty look because you order them. They're on the menu, aren't they? And she wants her tip...
In order of your comments on each item:
#6:  Hence why I'm into Flexible dieting and IIFYM.  I've found that if losing wieght/getting in shape requires you to not have a social life, you're doing it wrong.  Yes, even if you're a pro bodybuilder.  Even Layne Norton has a social life.

#4: It's one thing to be spontaneous every now and again, but if it's a 2-4+ a week thing, you're gaining weight (and not muscle) then it's time to cut back.  Moderation seems best here, like Alan Aragon, Armi Legge, etc have said before.

#3:  Hence why I just cook my own food.  Pretty much everyone in my family/household does tbh.  And even then, if you're eating the clam chowder, or whatever, eat a smaller portion, Calories being what they are and all.

>>Personal responsibility
Um, Shane? By losing weight isn't that exactly what I'm doing?
I meant the stuff mainly for #5 and #8 because I've experienced people like that and they suck.  Big time..  I think I should have worded that post better. Blah.  This is what I get for not reading my post more carefully.

I also should note I haven't really experienced much of the ones you highlighted yet, if only because I'm not that social and don't (yet) have a job. >.>;;

Edited the post:  Fixed. :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 02:01:03 PM
And speaking of personal responsibility:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

Something every millennial (myself included) who isn't leading the life they want needs to read. 10/10
Probably the best self help article I've ever read ever.
Posted on every social networking site I'm on.
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Post by: evensgrey on November 15, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
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Normally, I've got little patience for Deserphile these days, but his description of both police behaving stupidly while doing riot training (apparently to better CAUSE riots) and how police managed to precipitate a riot he got caught in as a teenager is really funny.

I'm not going to bother nominating the cops for IE, since this really isn't a bad enough incident to bother covering on the podcast, since they were only incredibly stupid and caused damage through stupidity rather than intent.  (Seriously, crashing THREE police cars into each other while on your way to a TRAINING EXERCISE, and then bungling the training with what is literally the oldest screw up in chemical warfare.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 15, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
>>Personal responsibility
Um, Shane? By losing weight isn't that exactly what I'm doing?

Wasn't targeted at you, but whoever wrote that part.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 15, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 15, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Wasn't targeted at you, but whoever wrote that part.
Ah, okay.  It was Christina H of cracked.com who wrote the article (all of it), actually.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 16, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
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Thunderf00t:  When he's on, he's on. :)
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Post by: BlameThe1st on November 17, 2014, 09:33:18 PM
Paul Krugman (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/opinion/paul-krugman-when-government-succeeds.html) recently emmited this bit of bogosity:

Quote"Modern American political discourse is dominated by cheap cynicism about public policy, a free-floating contempt for any and all efforts to improve our lives. And this cheap cynicism is completely unjustified."

To which, one redditor (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/2mkm86/modern_american_political_discourse_is_dominated/cm5b474) in the thread posted this:

QuoteSorry, I'd say my cynicism is more than justified. My contempt is well deserved.

We were secretly spying on over a billion people for no one knows how long. Revealing that hasn't even marginally slowed such efforts. The PATRIOT ACT still exists, is still in force, and all signals show will get re-upped when the time comes. We're going to war in the Middle East. Again. After the president who vowed to get us out of the Middle East decided to arm a group we felt moderate against a force we considered to be great evil backfired. Again. Part of our strategy is to arm a force we consider to be moderate against one we consider great evil. Again. Forty-one percent of Americans don't have jobs, wages are stagnant, and the economic recovery has been concentrated in the top few percent of earners.

Police are murdering people with military weapons, attempting to silence journalists and hide their wrong-doings, stealing millions from ordinary Americans and acting like a bunch of racist thugs. Voter turn-out is low, money in politics is astronomically high, and it seems like few of the real problems we're facing as a nation or as a world are being resolved.

But yeah, that solar panel investment turned out great and Ebola has only killed 5,500 people so far. I'll bake you a cake. Try again Krugman.

Speaking of old Krugtron, I recently wrote this satirical gem (http://the-daily-bungle.blogspot.com/2014/11/paul-krugman-admits-being-poe-quits-job.html).
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 20, 2014, 06:45:05 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130521095429-5799319-class-of-2013-your-degree-doesn-t-mean-squat?fb_action_ids=10151461717798131&fb_action_types=og.likes
One more reason I hate college as an institution and why I seethe with rage when not a single libertarian even tries to address it the way they do the public schools.
"Your silence on the matter is deafening." As Hawkeye would say.
Fuck the statist imbeciles saying "WE NEED FREE EDUCATION!" for what? For even MORE people to waste 4+ years of their lives? Fuck you.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
The post I just put in fail quotes reminds me of these two gems from XKCD:

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(https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/people_are_stupid.png)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
http://www.stop-homophobia.com/gaymythsbusted.htm :)
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Post by: MrBogosity on November 21, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 21, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
The post I just put in fail quotes reminds me of these two gems from XKCD:

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(https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/people_are_stupid.png)

And the title text for the latter: "To everyone who responds to everything by saying they've 'lost their faith in humanity': Thanks--I'll let humanity know. I'm sure they'll be crushed."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
"An extreme shortage of something is NEVER anything to get upset over when you aren't the one dealing with it."--David Wong
Probably the only specific quote I've ever posted of his in this thread.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
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3:08 Oh yeah, I remember that post.  It was saying lonely men have more testosterone.  The catch? "Animal Study"
5:27 "And your penis is gonna invert" I lol'ed irl at that. That was gold. XD
56:00 ish:  "Around the exact same time when the government pushed high carb diets as healthy was about the exact time when the obesity crisis began." Damn. Correlation =/= causation, but wow. o.o
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 22, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
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Post by: tnu on November 23, 2014, 06:06:17 AM
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Post by: Dallas Wildman on November 24, 2014, 08:55:38 AM
Finally some decent political satire from Saturday Night Live

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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 24, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
http://gizmodo.com/the-fastest-real-world-internet-is-1000x-quicker-than-g-1506564949
*swoon!* :D

My comment on that, still pending approval:
"0.9 Mbps download and 0.3 Mbps upload (Verizon DSL...weee!), no mobile reception at my place. The shoe place near my house still uses dial up. I wish I was making that up.

Yeah, this is what happens when you give utilities, including phone, cable, power, etc a local monopoly via their regional government. Just like with the Bell Labs/AT&T monopoly, you get stagnation, shitty service, and fewer choices. Funny how *that* works..."

I also added it to this article by John Cheese:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/
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Post by: AnCap Dave on November 25, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
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Post by: evensgrey on November 25, 2014, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 24, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
http://gizmodo.com/the-fastest-real-world-internet-is-1000x-quicker-than-g-1506564949
*swoon!* :D

My comment on that, still pending approval:
"0.9 Mbps download and 0.3 Mbps upload (Verizon DSL...weee!), no mobile reception at my place. The shoe place near my house still uses dial up. I wish I was making that up.

Yeah, this is what happens when you give utilities, including phone, cable, power, etc a local monopoly via their regional government. Just like with the Bell Labs/AT&T monopoly, you get stagnation, shitty service, and fewer choices. Funny how *that* works..."

I also added it to this article by John Cheese:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/

I don't think that's all that NEW, though.  Experiments in hyper-capacity backbone technologies have been going on for at least a couple decades.  And this sounds like it needs new switches, anyway.  How can you possibly jam seven channels through existing single-channel laser diodes?  (And they don't appear to be using common channel standards, either.  Nobody seems to have a 200Gb/s optical channel standard in common use, the fastest channel protocol I can find is OC768, which is about 38Gb/s.  The line protocols would need to be about the level of OC3450 or so.)
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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 25, 2014, 12:38:32 PM
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Post by: AnCap Dave on November 25, 2014, 03:42:51 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 26, 2014, 07:51:23 PM
"RE: governments, their programs, and the idea of them being moral, justified, and a net benefit to society.
If you even entertain the notion that some of them are, you are hopelessly deluded, gullible, and naive.  Such a farce."--Me, inspired by one of Menno's posts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2014, 12:01:26 PM
"A problem with a lot of folks into health and fitness, is that, like a lot of experts in other fields, they tend to lose perspective and not understand that folks who are n00bs at this aren't going to have the intuition, tools, experience, skill-sets, and sense, etc that's going to let them make more informed choices.
It's a reason why I want to scream whenever I hear someone tell me, "oh, you can just build your own PC"
Um, yeah, ignoring the YEARS of experience and time they put into it that I do NOT have. Or the money they could afford to waste on failures that I do not have. You know?
Unless they can actually help me reach their level, it just comes off as advice from a celebrity: gibberish horseshit spraying out of the mouth of an ultra-privileged out of touch alien.
But yeah, it's the same with anyone skilled in ANY skillset I've found.  Loss of perspective nearly always happens.
And so when advising someone who doesn't have the skills they do, they become about as helpful as a fortune cookie's advice.
It's why I immediately start asking them questions like, asking them can they show/teach me to do that, or at the very least,
Direct me to some good links/tutorials that can help get me started.
If they don't have the patience to play teacher, that's fine, but don't give advice to people who do NOT have the skills to use it."--Me, inspired by some tweets I've received and a conversation on one of my posts on facebook.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 27, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2014, 12:01:26 PM
"A problem with a lot of folks into health and fitness, is that, like a lot of experts in other fields, they tend to lose perspective and not understand that folks who are n00bs at this aren't going to have the intuition, tools, experience, skill-sets, and sense, etc that's going to let them make more informed choices.
It's a reason why I want to scream whenever I hear someone tell me, "oh, you can just build your own PC"
Um, yeah, ignoring the YEARS of experience and time they put into it that I do NOT have. Or the money they could afford to waste on failures that I do not have. You know?
Unless they can actually help me reach their level, it just comes off as advice from a celebrity: gibberish horseshit spraying out of the mouth of an ultra-privileged out of touch alien.
But yeah, it's the same with anyone skilled in ANY skillset I've found.  Loss of perspective nearly always happens.
And so when advising someone who doesn't have the skills they do, they become about as helpful as a fortune cookie's advice.
It's why I immediately start asking them questions like, asking them can they show/teach me to do that, or at the very least,
Direct me to some good links/tutorials that can help get me started.
If they don't have the patience to play teacher, that's fine, but don't give advice to people who do NOT have the skills to use it."--Me, inspired by some tweets I've received and a conversation on one of my posts on facebook.

I'd like to think we did a pretty good job in your Bogosity thread where we talked about building a gaming PC. I know I had to sit and think of all the things that have changed over the last ~30 years, and what you'd need to know to start doing it today.

Personally, I think the hardest part might be just finding components that go together. They've actually idiot-proofed a lot of it. (And I'm thankful that I'll never have to manually set an IRQ again for as long as I live!)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 27, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 27, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
I'd like to think we did a pretty good job in your Bogosity thread where we talked about building a gaming PC. I know I had to sit and think of all the things that have changed over the last ~30 years, and what you'd need to know to start doing it today.

Personally, I think the hardest part might be just finding components that go together. They've actually idiot-proofed a lot of it. (And I'm thankful that I'll never have to manually set an IRQ again for as long as I live!)

Uhhhhh *cough cough* his thread? xD

But your right i did get some pretty good advice from there as well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2014, 01:44:08 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 27, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
I'd like to think we did a pretty good job in your Bogosity thread where we talked about building a gaming PC. I know I had to sit and think of all the things that have changed over the last ~30 years, and what you'd need to know to start doing it today.

Personally, I think the hardest part might be just finding components that go together. They've actually idiot-proofed a lot of it. (And I'm thankful that I'll never have to manually set an IRQ again for as long as I live!)
I think so, and yeah, that wasn't really directed at anyone in particular, just in general, something I noticed a lot of.  I think between the talk me and one of my furry libertarian friends (Greg) had on nutrition yesterday, and being told to 'just build a PC' from folks on Twitter and all the stuff with that just brought it out of me.
And while I don't know what setting up an IRQ would entail, it must be a pain if even you don't want to do it. D:
And yeah, that was probably my biggest concern as well, basically making sure everything is compatible with everything else. I don't want to blow $1,500 on a GPU or $1,000 on a CPU only to find it it isn't compatible with my motherboard, or the software I want to use, or doesn't fit in my case, etc, etc, etc.


Quote from: ArtemisVale on November 27, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Uhhhhh *cough cough* his thread? xD

But your right i did get some pretty good advice from there as well.
Yeah, it is actually your thread, and like I said before, sorry for hijacking it from you.  I am grateful that you started it though. *hugs* :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 27, 2014, 10:13:26 PM
Not gonna lie and say I havent been in this group before (and im obviously The One Who Really Likes to Roleplay)

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Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on November 27, 2014, 10:13:26 PM
Not gonna lie and say I havent been in this group before (and im obviously The One Who Really Likes to Roleplay)

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@The Rocket Raccoon one: *whistles nonchalantly* >.>;
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 28, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
It's funny how "Electric Eye" by Judas Priest is more relevant now than it was 30 years ago.

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Up here in space
I'm looking down on you.
My lasers trace
Everything you do.
You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind.
There is no true escape

I'm watching all the time.
I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam.
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean.

I'm elected electric spy
I protected electric eye.
Always in focus
You can't feel my stare.
I zoom into you
You don't know I'm there.
I take a pride in probing all your secret moves
My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove.

Electric eye, in the sky
Feel my stare, always there
's nothing you can do about it.
Develop and expose
I feed upon your every thought
And so my power grows.
Protected. Detective. Electric eye.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 28, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2014, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: D on November 28, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
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Wow! Yeah, liberals, tell us more about how you aren't socialists!  While crying we call you out on it, as if we're name calling.  Imbeciles.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2014, 01:17:01 PM
http://io9.com/what-if-natural-products-came-with-a-list-of-ingredient-1503320184
^This.  All my yes. :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on November 29, 2014, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on November 29, 2014, 01:17:01 PM
http://io9.com/what-if-natural-products-came-with-a-list-of-ingredient-1503320184
^This.  All my yes. :D

I enjoyed it too, it's actually to bad he only did three things. Also, I kinda wish he went ahead and used the common names for the ingredients.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 29, 2014, 07:18:11 PM
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Mundane Matt's response to InternetAristocrat's bitch fit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on November 30, 2014, 07:48:37 AM
Quote from: D on November 29, 2014, 07:18:11 PM
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Mundane Matt's response to InternetAristocrat's bitch fit.

Listened to IA's quote and was like "What is he talking about?" the whole time.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on November 30, 2014, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on November 30, 2014, 07:48:37 AM
Listened to IA's quote and was like "What is he talking about?" the whole time.

Yeah, and now he's back on Twitter. Not sure if the channel is back, but he came crawling back on Twitter.

Just like the KingofPol situation, it kind of pisses me off that everyone is just accepting them back with open arms.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
Quote from: D on November 28, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10436309_312670528937781_2215395305213417658_n.png?oh=b237fc23089ee88f07765db6cf0ae36c&oe=55166E01)
I will personally always adore James Ostrowski's response to that labor theory garbage: 

"According to this theory, all the value of a business is contributed by the 'workers'. That worker we call the owner, apparently contributes nothing. Only someone who never owned a business could believe this preposterous theory. Since the owner contributed nothing to the business, why did the workers show up there in the first place?

According to the labor theory of value, the workers could have gone to a vacant lot, and produced the same amount of wealth by replicating the same physical actions they undertook working for the greedy capitalist, this time without a building and without any equipment, management, customers or business plan. If we take away the greedy capitalist, these little details must go as well. Just think of Marcel Marceau pretending to work. That's right. You socialists pretend to work and we capitalists will pretend to pay you."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2014, 12:48:40 PM
https://mises.org/library/there-no-third-way
Well said.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 01, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
http://pulptastic.com/beautiful-woman-asks-get-rich-husband-gets-best-response-ever/
Economist gives a gold digger a taste of economic reality.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 03, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 03, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: D on December 03, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
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Hint: if you can do this, YOU'RE the privileged one!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on December 04, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
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Ouch!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 04, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 04, 2014, 10:22:42 PM
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Most inspiring speech I've ever heard. :')
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on December 04, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5LKr7Xd.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 05, 2014, 07:47:03 AM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 04, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5LKr7Xd.jpg)

I just have three words to say: Duke Lacrosse players.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 06, 2014, 07:56:54 AM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10846430_913387235345753_412230598394849383_n.jpg?oh=dd1fda94ad0cf77f5e4081051ba74914&oe=54FA9F7E)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 07, 2014, 04:03:04 PM
>TotalBiscuit wins an award for journalism at the VGAs
>is pro GamerGate


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JhmOgCEAAqXFS.jpg:large)

The salt from anti-#GamerGate is just amazing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
From John Pinette:

"My cholesterol count has a comma."

"[on performing in Las Vegas] It doesn't matter if I lose money at the tables, 'cause I can always make it up at the buffet. $2.98 breakfasts? Hell, I can eat $2.98 worth of toast! I go up to the Prime Rib table and say 'Hit me!'"

"I kind of consider myself ahead of the curve. Or the curves, if you will. It's a common ground that people share: everybody eats. And everybody has an opinion about food."

I miss him. :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 09, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on December 09, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
From John Pinette:

"My cholesterol count has a comma."

"[on performing in Las Vegas] It doesn't matter if I lose money at the tables, 'cause I can always make it up at the buffet. $2.98 breakfasts? Hell, I can eat $2.98 worth of toast! I go up to the Prime Rib table and say 'Hit me!'"

"I kind of consider myself ahead of the curve. Or the curves, if you will. It's a common ground that people share: everybody eats. And everybody has an opinion about food."

I miss him. :(

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 09, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: D on December 09, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 10, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 10, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on December 10, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
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They got the crazy right, anyway.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 10, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
[wiki][/wiki]
Quote from: evensgrey on December 10, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
They got the crazy right, anyway.

It look like itll at least be more subdued than the video game
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 11, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 11, 2014, 12:54:08 PM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on December 10, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
[wiki][/wiki]
It look like itll at least be more subdued than the video game

He dropped from an overpass into a van speeding down a busy city highway, slaughtered the occupants, and took the head off one of the outriders while the van was rolling down the highway, and this is more subdued than the video game.  Must have been a really badly made game.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 11, 2014, 05:10:57 PM
This guy (John Temujin Humphreys) gave a blow by blow list of how to argue with an An-com

QuoteJohn Temujin Humphreys Oh dear... Shayne Hunter (SH) is one of the most intellectually dishonest people you will ever run across, and debating him is a lesson in futility.

Any time he is backed into a corner he will change the topic with an outrageous statement that you will feel the need to debunk... allowing himself to scurry away from the questions he can't answer.

He will repeatedly fall back on already discredited ideas. Among them:

* markets can only exist with help from the state... if you mention that many markets exist without state help (e.g. black markets) he will change the topic and then latter simply repeat that markets can only exist with help from the state.

* landlordism (i.e. renting a house) is wrong because the tenant may not want to pay rent... if you point out that it is a voluntary contract between consenting adults, he will simply deny that it is voluntary because one person might own lots of land. He will almost certainly mention the hypothetical of one person owning 100 houses. That seems to be his magic number.

* voluntary agreements are not voluntary because some people have shitty choices and a shitty life... if you point out that he is confusing "voluntary action" (a process) with "good results" (an outcome) he will say you don't care about outcomes... if you point out that there are generally better outcomes from allowing people the freedom to trade, he will insist that hunter/gatherer societies were happier... if you point out that hunger/gatherer societies also had shitty choices, he will change topic and repeat a previous discredited talking point.

* he will say that he used to be an AnCap... if you point out that he doesn't understand even the basics of AnCap philosophy, he will just keep repeating that he used to be an AnCap.

* private property is violent because if somebody tries to steal from you, then you might try to stop them... if you point out that all systems (including AnCom) will have systems to enforce voluntary contracts, he will ignore that and just probably repeat his discredited landlord point... and if you point out that the enforcement has been voluntarily agreed to in the contract, he will just repeat the word "violence" several times and call you a fascist.

* free people will all naturally join an AnCom society because it is just obviously better... if you point out that the world has a lot of diversity and many people will prefer non-communist communities, he will either deny their existence, say he will not tolerate them, deny them again, and then change the topic.

* businesses include hierarchy so cannot exist in anarchy... if you point out that sports teams, social clubs, lobby groups, charities, etc also have voluntary hierarchy, he will insist they are "different" because he likes them but he doesn't like businesses.

* original anarchists were anti-capitalist... if you point out that many early anarchists (Warren, Spooner, Tucker) were pro-market he will probably quote Proudhon and then repeat a previous discredited talking point.

* he is the real anarchist... if you point out that he consistently argues for bigger government, he will point out that he needs big government to help promote the ethics of anarchy.

My advice is not to bother. Find any other AnCom instead, or debate a five year old about the best flavour jelly beans. And if you do get caught in a debate with him, just keep asking him "if some people voluntarily come together to form a community that has property and trade, how will you stop them?" ... he will dodge the question as much as he can, but eventually he will either have to admit he wants a state apparatus to stop that voluntary community or he will admit that he will tolerate a capitalist trading community.

Either way he's screwed.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 12, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
https://twitter.com/renegade_roo/status/543516428062572544
"This is what irks about this fandom 'I <3 his art, but I gotta be careful around him cuz he's an asshole' Why are you supporting assholes?"
And my reply:  "It's like many furries support each other just because we're on the same team or something without regard for anything else."
Renegade Roo is awesome. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 12, 2014, 07:17:18 PM
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/7d558c7425bba5386a31097cd4c704a8)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 13, 2014, 05:10:10 PM
Paul Joseph Watson

Women, please consider this scenario :

You are a teenager and you are pregnant. You had no birth control options and the condom you used broke. Now the father refuses to allow you to take the morning after pill. Abortion is illegal. You have no choice but to give birth. Once you give birth, your child is taken away from you immediately since the father gets automatic custody. You have to pay the father every month for twenty or more years a significant percentage of your wage. You can not afford to pay the father, so you are imprisoned. Everyone thinks you are a terrible mother and it's all your fault. After all, you were the slut who should have kept her legs closed in the first place. You are told to woman up and take responsibility. You are now a branded and convicted deadbeat mom. Society hates you. Your child despises you.

Welcome to the world of men.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 14, 2014, 12:08:19 PM
"Why would you make fun of someone who is fat in the gym, when you have concrete evidence that they're trying to fix the problem?"--Don't know who first said this, but it's still a win either way. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 14, 2014, 05:55:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42dWRxCEAI_DR_.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 14, 2014, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: D on December 14, 2014, 05:55:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42dWRxCEAI_DR_.jpg)
Best comeback ever. X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on December 15, 2014, 04:11:52 PM
[yt]hdQcGzbpN7s[/yt]

And this why Quark is badass
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 15, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on December 15, 2014, 04:11:52 PM
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And this why Quark is badass

This is also how Ferengi were almost always presented:  Peace is preferable because it affords more opportunities for business.  Even the weapons merchants don't like actual warfare, since it damages the ability of customers or potential customers to pay for shipments.  Weapons merchants prefer the threat of war, as that encourages the purchasing of arms without damaging the productive economic activity that provides the funds to pay for the weapons, allowing much more money to be obtained for a much longer time.

The cultists always mistake warfare for something that generates money for someone.  War is almost always the most expensive possible way to get hold of anything.  While it might make some people rich, that's because governments seize wealth from others to pay for the armaments, or the tools, materials, and labor to make them.  (Compare how Thomas Jefferson proposed the US get hold of the lands of the native people to warfare:  Get them into debt by encouraging traders to sell to them on credit, and when they're in too deep to pay it back, 'rescue' them by buying their lands.  This was much cheaper and a LOT more certain than invading their territory, which had the risk that the general population might object to it, for several reasons, even from people who personally might have an irrational hatred for the native people in question.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 15, 2014, 05:59:27 PM
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Zappa was the man.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 16, 2014, 02:37:49 AM
Not a specific quote but Politifact has not been giving pro-min wage statements a very warm response.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 18, 2014, 08:46:21 AM
The Doctor doesn't use guns. Except when he does. And then he's a total badass!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 18, 2014, 05:56:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 20, 2014, 01:18:41 PM
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Me and the guys were playing Cards Against Humanity last night and that shit was absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 21, 2014, 12:13:01 AM
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Here we have the Hitchens brothers on a UK current affairs show from back when Salman Rushdie was Knighted.  The socialist gets reamed for failing to condemn the violence and opposing the honor, and the Conservative condemns the violence and also condemns the honor because he doesn't think Rushdie's work good enough to deserve one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 23, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5lWLMzIYAA7Lvk.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 06:40:33 AM
Quote from: D on December 23, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5lWLMzIYAA7Lvk.png)

[citation needed]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 24, 2014, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 06:40:33 AM

Quote from: D on December 23, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5lWLMzIYAA7Lvk.png)

[citation needed]

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/476534831417806848 (https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/476534831417806848)

And it took all of about 2 minutes, about 40 seconds of which was because Twitter has an abnormal search interface.

Now, does anyone know if Josh writes these for her like he writes her blog?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 24, 2014, 08:40:48 AM
[citation needed]


https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/476534831417806848 (https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/476534831417806848)

And it took all of about 2 minutes, about 40 seconds of which was because Twitter has an abnormal search interface.

Now, does anyone know if Josh writes these for her like he writes her blog?

No, I meant a citation for HER claim that they don't do female characters because it's too expensive.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 24, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 08:56:20 AM
No, I meant a citation for HER claim that they don't do female characters because it's too expensive.

The specific one that triggered it is probably UBISoft's explanation of their decision not to put a female player character in one of the Assassin's Creed games, due to being too short of time and money to animate another character properly.  They did have a female in a different one, apparently, but the animations probably wouldn't have been applicable to either the environments or the specific engine.  (Converting models between engines isn't too hard.  Converting animations can be a real bastard, even when it's between variants of one engine.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 24, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 26, 2014, 10:15:50 AM
A short film adaptation of a short story answering the Fermi Paradox.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 27, 2014, 11:03:43 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on December 27, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Because Married With Children still makes me laugh.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 28, 2014, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: D on December 27, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Because Married With Children still makes me laugh.
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That seriously needs to be a sport!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on December 30, 2014, 03:50:56 AM
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In the comments is more win.
"SJWs shit on Metal, but not Rap, for the same reason that SJWs shit on Christianity, but not Islam:

Because minorities can never be guilty of anything, ever. " - Razorfist
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 30, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2014, 09:43:00 AM
http://oppressionquest.com/ So much win. <3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on December 31, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10881704_376783185829106_5071488958852884674_n.jpg?oh=cd1f7b93cc18a80b0c82adf09f13d0ff&oe=5543D0C4&__gda__=1429170456_471525c7ba02bf9e93f9a4b4a0b41beb)

best "Stop breaking the law" parody I've seen to date.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 31, 2014, 08:51:57 PM
Menno being awesome:

"I want to thank you. The whole world is talking about Crossfit, but of all the questions I get on a daily basis, not one of you has ever asked me anything about Crossfit. This confirms to me that only serious lifters read my articles. You're not a kid that's excited about the new toys on the playground. You realize that a good training program has structure. You're in it for the long haul.
I know my approach will never make me famous. Science, painful truths and a focus on long term results instead of fads and gimmicks will never become mainstream. That's fine with me. Because you matter and they don't."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 01, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/p720x720/1263798_963042290383449_5387415374946024868_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 02, 2015, 08:48:57 AM
Quote from: tnu on January 01, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
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Saw that yesterday and shared it on my facebook. I think it is the most accurate horoscope in history!

in the meantime, a favorite quote--from Dad:

me: "things are fine, though I wish they didn't keep lying to me at work"

Quote from: dadson, we're all Muslims back home, and yet they still lie to us at work!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 02, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p552x414/10404261_10205642023878719_3192238216619798199_n.jpg?oh=f3124c92896a66e73683dbebc28585c9&oe=5524276F&__gda__=1430415153_cf7fce2688e6b0e297e0cf4fe0083215)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 04, 2015, 05:14:45 PM
The replies to this tweet by Sherri Tenpenny: https://twitter.com/BusyDrT/status/550662475222630400
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 09, 2015, 10:31:06 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10917443_1558902761023557_2480072320690195514_n.png?oh=d749a806f7dd71f537ee4decf20c2a0b&oe=552D461D&__gda__=1428257143_237ca640044eeccecd83720138703e08)

>that response

My sides.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 09, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
I find this guy:  https://www.youtube.com/user/BroScienceLife/videos to be full of win.

A few cases in point:
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[yt]i6tTv_DEY7s[/yt]

[yt]ORPY4HG5TOc?t=1m2s[/yt]

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Warning:  homophobic on the lifting gloves part, but even as a bi guy, it still made me lol.

[yt]PPVBYI4N3Js[/yt]

[yt]TnNYTMExApI[/yt]

[yt]003t7MfHriU[/yt]

A lot of videos, but worth it imho. XD  I'd post specific quotes, but they're all full of gems. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 09, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
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Amazing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2015, 01:05:19 AM
For once TJ isnt a mouth breathing statist

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/544911_941399885894434_9042005527117753849_n.png?oh=86baab4ac519b97265e55822c6c67ab9&oe=553DD5F1&__gda__=1429657356_f964d102f80c6d037b0d0e1a91bcb8ec)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: VectorM on January 10, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: tnu on January 02, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
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Dude, drop it already.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 10, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
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The caller sounds so familiar...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2015, 11:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 10, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
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The caller sounds so familiar...

Wasnt there a simpsons episode about a similar boondoggle in the 90s?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 11, 2015, 01:27:20 AM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on January 10, 2015, 11:12:59 PM
Wasnt there a simpsons episode about a similar boondoggle in the 90s?

Sort of.  Springfield got some huge wad of tax windfall money from somewhere, and at the big town meeting to decide how to spend it (Mayor Quimby is so incompetent he can't even figure out how to blow money on his own) this shyster shows up and somehow convinces the town to build the monorail he's selling (over Marge's idea to use the money to repave the badly damaged streets of the town, and Lisa's questioning of why a small town with a centralized population needs a mass transit system).  It turns out that it's a decades-old second-hand monorail from some amusement park or something like that after the controls fail and it accelerates uncontrollably (until Homer, the driver, saves the day with an improvised grapple line to the sign of a local donut shop, leading to the iconic line, "Donuts!  Is there anything they can't do?").

This also illustrates (again) that Steph, for all his skill at dissecting news stories and real-world problems, is pants when it comes to examining fiction.  You'd get deeper analysis out of a trite Ganddalf-is-Jesus paper.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 11, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
"I cannot be sure exactly how many people since the murders have seen one or more of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that 'insult' Islam or mock its prophet but I should imagine the number is now in the tens of millions. Had the brothers stayed their bloody hands it would have been 60,000 at the very most. Mohammed must be very cross indeed that his two cretinous representatives have spread the 'insults' so unimaginably far and wide. If Said and Cherif Kouachi had had a grain of sense in their terminally moronic heads they could have foreseen that their actions would create secular martyrs, propagate those images they so disliked and increase yet again reasonable people's dislike of the faith they claimed (rightly or wrongly) to represent." —Stephen Fry

The whole article is win, too: http://www.stephenfry.com/2015/01/10/you-must-mock/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 11, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
"I cannot be sure exactly how many people since the murders have seen one or more of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that 'insult' Islam or mock its prophet but I should imagine the number is now in the tens of millions. Had the brothers stayed their bloody hands it would have been 60,000 at the very most. Mohammed must be very cross indeed that his two cretinous representatives have spread the 'insults' so unimaginably far and wide. If Said and Cherif Kouachi had had a grain of sense in their terminally moronic heads they could have foreseen that their actions would create secular martyrs, propagate those images they so disliked and increase yet again reasonable people's dislike of the faith they claimed (rightly or wrongly) to represent." —Stephen Fry

The whole article is win, too: http://www.stephenfry.com/2015/01/10/you-must-mock/

I second that: win!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 11, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Best description of Tumblr ever:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 11, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
Quote from: D on January 11, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Best description of Tumblr ever:
[yt]LUdHA5liNec[/yt]

Or SJWs.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 11, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
Or SJWs.

same thing really. Tumblr is like their base of operations.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 11, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
found this amusing

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10919048_10152948926825041_6266667951251888582_n.jpg?oh=28135486f0cd3a367ee5475249397592&oe=55273AB6&__gda__=1428400800_5fe0c8cbd0de5624e92a10e7e530cb8c)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 12, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
Quote from: VectorM on January 10, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Dude, drop it already.

I respectfully decline.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 12, 2015, 08:00:44 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/natural-muscular-potential-women/
Menno once again knocking it out of the park. :)

Some background on the figures regarding muscular gains being 100% that of men:  he means with respect to starting lean mass.  A male's drug free genetic muscular limit is about 17%-26% more lean mass than an average untrained man of equal height and bone structure (after controlling for body fat percentage).  Which means the above applies to women as well.  Their muscular potential is about 17%-26% more lean mass than an average untrained woman of the same height and bone structure.
(exact figures from Casey Butt's articles on muscular potential and his "Rules" article featured on the weightrainer.net front page.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on January 12, 2015, 08:24:17 PM
This is just win
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 13, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7P3Kr1CIAEVKEN.png)

Totalbiscuit's got an ace on his forehead!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 13, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 13, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7P3Kr1CIAEVKEN.png)

Totalbiscuit's got an ace on his forehead!
Followed him on Twitter and RT + faved all of those posts. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 14, 2015, 01:11:17 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 13, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7P3Kr1CIAEVKEN.png)

Totalbiscuit's got an ace on his forehead!

This is THE Cynical Brit right?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 10:11:17 AM
Notepad++ released v.6.7.4 as the "Je suis Charlie edition." When you upgrade, it types out this message:

QuoteFreedom of expression is like the air we breathe, we don't feel it, until people take it away from us.

For this reason, Je suis Charlie, not because I endorse everything they published, but because I cherish the right to speak out freely without risk even when it offends others.
And no, you cannot just take someone's life for whatever he/she expressed.

Hence this "Je suis Charlie" edition.
- #JeSuisCharlie
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2015, 03:20:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 10:11:17 AM
Notepad++ released v.6.7.4 as the "Je suis Charlie edition." When you upgrade, it types out this message:
Dear people who make Notepad:  You are awesome. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 05:53:54 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2015, 03:20:44 PM
Dear people who make Notepad:  You are awesome. :)

Notepad++, not Notepad. BIG difference! http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2015, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 05:53:54 PM
Notepad++, not Notepad. BIG difference! http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
Thanks! And downloading that version of it. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 14, 2015, 10:02:07 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 10:11:17 AM
Notepad++ released v.6.7.4 as the "Je suis Charlie edition." When you upgrade, it types out this message:

Wait, isn't notepad a standard thing that comes with Windows?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 14, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on January 14, 2015, 10:02:07 PM
Wait, isn't notepad a standard thing that comes with Windows?

Yes, but this is Notepad++. MUCH better.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 14, 2015, 11:22:34 PM
(http://i62.tinypic.com/167knxx.jpg)
And dershep showing not all furries--even Canadian ones--are state bootlickers.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 15, 2015, 11:00:47 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 15, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on December 29, 2011, 07:34:09 PM
"Barack Obama has continued and expanded genocidal activities in the middle east, including the use of radioactive and chemical weapons that prevent pregnancy. He has overseen the mass slaughter of Africans in Somalia and the occupation of Uganda. He continues the blatantly racist drug war. He holds the record for most deportations of any president in American history. Ron Paul seeks to end most or all of these things. If you are truly anti-racist, you have much bigger fish to fry than him." --Stargazer5781 via a bulletin

Adding to the above, another old classic from Stargazer5781: "Statism is all well and good until you realize that people in the state are human too. If your claim is that people need to be ordered around and controlled, who will order around and control the people in the state? Statism necessitates the existence of gods and only made sense back when people thought the heads of state were gods. When you realize gods don't exist, all arguments for a state self-detonate."  Emphasis added by me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 15, 2015, 11:16:49 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 16, 2015, 03:09:41 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 16, 2015, 11:06:07 AM
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So, the guys look at one bit from each of the Original Trilogy::  Luke's swing over the chasm in the Death Start, Han stuffing Luke into the belly of a taun-taun to keep him warm while Han builds a shelter, and the ewoks crushing an AT-ST with a pair of swinging logs.

The verdicts:
[spoiler]
It's possible, but REALLY hard to get a grappling hook to hook like Luke does, and the swing with only a belt for support is very painful and likely to cause serious injury if anything goes wrong, but it is possible to hold another person while making the swing if you aren't injured in the process.  So, possible, and REALLY heroic if it works.

Stuffing a hypothermic person inside the belly of a freshly dead large animal works a treat for keeping them alive for hours, ample time to get a shelter set up so you can get the victim into conditions where you can rewarm them.

A pair of large logs with a good swing can indeed crush an armored vehicle, at least if it's built like a Brinks truck, with lots of protection from small arms but none of the major structural supports for the armor you'd expect in something like a proper tank, which certainly looks to be the way the AT-ST is built.  The AT-ST isn't built like a tank because almost nobody uses kinetic weapons in Star Wars, so it doesn't need to be.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on January 16, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on January 16, 2015, 11:06:07 AM
[yt]krF50MEhXPo[/yt]

So, the guys look at one bit from each of the Original Trilogy::  Luke's swing over the chasm in the Death Start, Han stuffing Luke into the belly of a taun-taun to keep him warm while Han builds a shelter, and the ewoks crushing an AT-ST with a pair of swinging logs.

The verdicts:
[spoiler]
It's possible, but REALLY hard to get a grappling hook to hook like Luke does, and the swing with only a belt for support is very painful and likely to cause serious injury if anything goes wrong, but it is possible to hold another person while making the swing if you aren't injured in the process.  So, possible, and REALLY heroic if it works.

Stuffing a hypothermic person inside the belly of a freshly dead large animal works a treat for keeping them alive for hours, ample time to get a shelter set up so you can get the victim into conditions where you can rewarm them.

A pair of large logs with a good swing can indeed crush an armored vehicle, at least if it's built like a Brinks truck, with lots of protection from small arms but none of the major structural supports for the armor you'd expect in something like a proper tank, which certainly looks to be the way the AT-ST is built.  The AT-ST isn't built like a tank because almost nobody uses kinetic weapons in Star Wars, so it doesn't need to be.
[/spoiler]

Blocked by Discovery Communications :(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 16, 2015, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on January 16, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
Blocked by Discovery Communications :(

Working fine for me.  I'm using TOR, so YouTube has no idea where I am.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 16, 2015, 06:43:14 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10422510_915380798507130_5243987145454516166_n.jpg?oh=33b850f9a3fd0057d0a7f90c7019c101&oe=552840AB&__gda__=1429348371_23c27f34a83e20d38745b3ed78e8ee40)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 17, 2015, 09:55:11 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 17, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: D on January 17, 2015, 09:55:11 AM
[yt]NXOhN2u5wtY[/yt]

We already had that one, just up the page five posts.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 18, 2015, 12:07:32 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 18, 2015, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 19, 2009, 08:29:11 AM
"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them. If I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I and I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." --Bernardo de la Paz, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

"I say you cannot administer a wicked law impartially! You can only punish, only destroy. And I warn you: a wicked law, like cholera, destroys everyone that it touches--its upholders as well as its defiers." --Henry Drummond, Inherit the Wind
These, along with the quote in my siggy are perhaps my favorite all time quotes.  Now I'd like to add a 4th one to that:

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."—Friedrich Nietzsche
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 18, 2015, 02:48:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7H28BmIQAArj57.png:large)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 18, 2015, 03:46:39 PM
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10931364_868060166578359_3963311431035032409_n.jpg?oh=bc09d143add1bf704f5950c7f0840470&oe=552358C3)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 20, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 20, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 20, 2015, 05:45:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B709NxsCYAANvH3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 20, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: D on January 20, 2015, 05:45:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B709NxsCYAANvH3.jpg)
Feminists say it isn't, but as a bisexual, I think both are sexy. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 21, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 21, 2015, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 21, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
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partial fail here. Let me explain: yeah, Japan has a much lower crime rate, but it has the death penalty. So does Singapore (last I heard)

He's right that  it doesn't deter crime, but then to turn around and say that states that don't have it tend to have lower crime rates is simplistic.

Otherwise, I agree with four of the five reasons--including about crime deterrent. the first reason is too subjective.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on January 21, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 21, 2015, 09:29:04 PM
partial fail here. Let me explain: yeah, Japan has a much lower crime rate, but it has the death penalty. So does Singapore (last I heard)

He's right that  it doesn't deter crime, but then to turn around and say that states that don't have it tend to have lower crime rates is simplistic.

Otherwise, I agree with four of the five reasons--including about crime deterrent. the first reason is too subjective.

The weasel words are "tend to have"

If you really look at the number spread, it's pretty all over the map.  The point to take is there is no evidence that the death penalty has a deterent effect.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 21, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/even-profit-universities-are-better-americas-terrible-community-colleges?utm_content=bufferb08e2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Shared to me by a furry libertarian friend of mine.  I went to one to save money before transferring to a  year school.  I'd wager that, per dollar, the 4 year 'non-profit' universities aren't much better...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 22, 2015, 01:58:14 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 21, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
The weasel words are "tend to have"

If you really look at the number spread, it's pretty all over the map.  The point to take is there is no evidence that the death penalty has a deterent effect.

Not disagreeing here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 22, 2015, 09:22:14 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 21, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
The weasel words are "tend to have"

If you really look at the number spread, it's pretty all over the map.  The point to take is there is no evidence that the death penalty has a deterent effect.

My understanding of the research is that the perceived likelihood of punishment for an action is more important in deterrence than the severity of the possible punishment.

So, a 1% chance of being executed tends to deter people less than a 90% chance of ten years in prison.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 22, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/boys-raped-more-often-than-girls/
No surprises here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 22, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on January 23, 2015, 12:56:44 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on January 23, 2015, 09:11:27 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10548301_328772420660925_2693449664039366211_o.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 25, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
Ludwig von Mises:
"The characteristic feature of militarism is not the fact that a nation has a powerful army or navy. It is the paramount role assigned to the army within the political structure. Even in peacetime the army is supreme; it is the predominant factor in political life. The subjects must obey the government as soldiers must obey their superiors. Within a militarist community there is no freedom; there are only obedience and discipline."
--Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War (1944)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on January 27, 2015, 02:26:04 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 30, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
Well Angry Joe finally weighs in on Swatting and GamerGate

[yt]UwTjHXiN4qw[/yt]

Swatting starts at 29:22
Gamergate starts at 31:44
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on January 30, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
Well Angry Joe finally weighs in on Swatting and GamerGate

[yt]UwTjHXiN4qw[/yt]

Swatting starts at 29:22
Gamergate starts at 31:44

Taken down by a DMCA claim. Boo, BroTeamPill, whoever you are!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 31, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 09:29:05 AM
Taken down by a DMCA claim. Boo, BroTeamPill, whoever you are!

Some kind of video game review thing, on Twitter, YouTube, Tumblr, Reddit, their own wiki, etc.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on January 31, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
Some kind of video game review thing, on Twitter, YouTube, Tumblr, Reddit, their own wiki, etc.

And notice that, when a video is taken down because of a DMCA claim, the comments go with it. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 31, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 09:29:05 AM
Taken down by a DMCA claim. Boo, BroTeamPill, whoever you are!

Are you kidding me?  Well I'm going to have to link to their twitter in fail quotes.  Basically when it comes to GamerGate "Angry" Joe Vargas has criticisms to make against both sides.
Towards GGers - They've overstated their success
Towards Anti-GGers - That they're have been legitimate faults in gaming journalism and that just because *some* use the hashtag to promote their hatred doesn't mean the movement as a whole is anti-women.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 31, 2015, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
And notice that, when a video is taken down because of a DMCA claim, the comments go with it. Just sayin'.

Is that a new phenomenon with the removal of YouTube Comments, or was it like that with them as well?  I know comments on privated videos remained viewable (and postable, even) if you already had the link to the comment page under the old system.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 31, 2015, 01:28:06 PM
Oh AngryJoe does criticize GGers for playing up conspiracy theories and goes into some discussion about the Quinnspiracy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on January 31, 2015, 03:44:09 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 01, 2015, 02:23:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8xYjxLCIAAJGH_.png)

Ethics.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 01, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: D on February 01, 2015, 02:23:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8xYjxLCIAAJGH_.png)

Ethics.

Maybe GG is having an effect?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 01, 2015, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 01, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
Maybe GG is having an effect?

Well, we know it has some who depend on the corruption in the gaming press worried.  Why else would Anita Sarkesian take the time to do unpaid interviews about it, when she normally won't show up for less than $5k?  (Or not show up for about $300k.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 01, 2015, 06:02:03 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 01, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2015, 09:29:05 AM
Taken down by a DMCA claim. Boo, BroTeamPill, whoever you are!

And there it is back up.

He ended with 17 minutes demonstrating he doesn't understand GamerGate at all, trying to claim it's really still the Guinnspiracy thing, after he'd already shown he mistakes Zoe Quinn (who, keep in mind, isn't more than semi-literate at best) for a game developer.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 01, 2015, 10:50:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8y8rr6CcAAxuoX.jpg)

TotalBiscuit putting Anita in her place.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 02, 2015, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on January 30, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
Well Angry Joe finally weighs in on Swatting and GamerGate

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Swatting starts at 29:22
Gamergate starts at 31:44

First two minutes of the video: I hate this guy.

End of the video: I can't STAND this guy!

Why is he in Fav Quotes?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 05:44:55 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 02, 2015, 05:34:10 PM
First two minutes of the video: I hate this guy.

End of the video: I can't STAND this guy!

Why is he in Fav Quotes?

Because people in opposition to GamerGate were complaining about how the movement was a concerted assault on women.  I didn't think anyone here was going to agree with all of his points, but he does point out that the whole "GamerGate = Concerted Misogyny" is a load of bullshit.  Yes he doesn't align himself with the movement, but I thought it was important someone like him to emphasize that last point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 02, 2015, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 05:44:55 PM
Because people in opposition to GamerGate were complaining about how the movement was a concerted assault on women.  I didn't think anyone here was going to agree with all of his points, but he does point out that the whole "GamerGate = Concerted Misogyny" is a load of bullshit.  Yes he doesn't align himself with the movement, but I thought it was important someone like him to emphasize that last point.

Okay, yeah, but at the same time he left people who aren't already in the know with no clue about what either side was really up to.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 02, 2015, 06:16:17 PM
Okay, yeah, but at the same time he left people who aren't already in the know with no clue about what either side was really up to.

But it was clear to me at the start of the segment that he had qualms with both sides of the issue.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 02, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
But it was clear to me at the start of the segment that he had qualms with both sides of the issue.

And not a whole lot of knowledge.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on February 02, 2015, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 05:44:55 PM
Because people in opposition to GamerGate were complaining about how the movement was a concerted assault on women.  I didn't think anyone here was going to agree with all of his points, but he does point out that the whole "GamerGate = Concerted Misogyny" is a load of bullshit.  Yes he doesn't align himself with the movement, but I thought it was important someone like him to emphasize that last point.

What last point?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on February 02, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on February 02, 2015, 07:57:49 PM
What last point?

The point about GamerGate != Misogyny
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 03, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 05, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
[yt]DoDxC7RD37Y[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 06, 2015, 01:14:47 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 06, 2015, 08:33:55 AM
People don't like BriWu's shitty game. BriWu goes on a stupid rant on Steam shitting on hardcore gamers. She gets ripped a new one:
(http://i.imgur.com/k9paFVW.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 06, 2015, 11:50:34 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 07, 2015, 11:44:53 AM
The last post above put me in mind of this:

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He's got a lot of videos about all kinds of weapons and fighting techniques.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2015, 12:13:17 PM
"A man chooses. A slave obeys."--Andrew Ryan, Bioshock.  How Hawkeye missed this great quote I'll never know.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 07, 2015, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2015, 12:13:17 PM
"A man chooses. A slave obeys."--Andrew Ryan, Bioshock.  How Hawkeye missed this great quote I'll never know.

To be fair, Bioshock is not the most libertarian friendly series out there. Bioshock Infinite especially so.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 07, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: D on February 07, 2015, 12:48:24 PM
To be fair, Bioshock is not the most libertarian friendly series out there. Bioshock Infinite especially so.
Agreed.  It's based on Objectivism.  Which I find repulsive. >_<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 07, 2015, 10:37:07 PM
Watching chuggaaconroy's LP of Xenoblade Chronicles, for the sake of those who haven't seen the game or played it, I'll put the rest in spoilers. You've been warned.

[spoiler]So basically, they're having a discussion after the real villain, Zanza, has been revealed. Zana is basically the god of the main characters. He created them and essentially wants to destroy everything and make everything anew. Well, during this discussion, one of the characters, Dunban, says this amazing quote about Zanza not being above basic morality.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/9pxaic.jpg)

Of course, another character, Alvis immediately tries to say "HURR DURR YOU'RE MORTALS AND GODS ARE ABOVE OUR MORALITY." which is absolute bullshit, but yeah, pretty cool none the less.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on February 08, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
https://twitter.com/MSFHMysticJoJo/status/564541961789382658

Wraith going where few dared.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 09, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on February 09, 2015, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: D on February 09, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
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I do think that video was far more informative than Angry Joe's.  Yes, I knew he didn't hit the nail on the head like he should've.  But I posted it here because the authoritarian feminists were accusing GGers of misogyny.  Angry Joe himself reported on the gaming journalism's shady practices back in 2012 in his yearly Gaming Controversies video.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on February 09, 2015, 10:39:52 PM
link (https://twitter.com/Cataphract/status/564626676731346944)
(http://i.imgur.com/fHAXM3W.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 10, 2015, 08:21:53 PM
This episode of King of The Hill perfectly captures how Social Justice Warriors are.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 12, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 13, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
Quote from: tnu on February 13, 2015, 05:56:33 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/p640x640/10952156_675596072550596_3172240904980028953_o.jpg)

Are you sure you put that in the right thread?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 13, 2015, 07:26:36 AM
I absolutely did not put it in the rihgt thread. thank sofr pointing that o ut. hehe now off to correct this.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 13, 2015, 06:55:05 PM
Its the second image thats win, the first is just there for reference

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10978654_10153032949813326_5993529166588259949_n.jpg?oh=21cd27e8ea914f48d0e6ca0328187551&oe=555BAA42&__gda__=1432176167_4d8e90731c939e062ea6437256e95bff)

(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10990014_1079156648777016_2462241990658554834_n.jpg?oh=cb5f3aa076406025f962ed0ec5c20ec7&oe=55494E96)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 14, 2015, 04:34:19 PM
Back to more serious philosophy, from the Tao Te Ching:

The person of superior integrity does not insist upon his integrity;
For this reason he has integrity.
The person of inferior integrity never loses sight of his integrity;
For this reason, he lacks integrity.

The person of superior integrity takes no action, nor has he a purpose for acting.
The person of superior humaneness takes action, but has no purpose for acting.
The person of superior righteousness takes action, and has purpose for acting.
The person of superior etiquette takes action, but others do not respond to him;
Whereupon he rolls up his sleeves and coerces them.

Therefore when the Way is lost, afterward comes integrity.
When integrity is lost, afterward comes humaneness.
When humaneness is lost, afterward comes righteousness.
When righteousness is lost, afterword comes etiquette.

Now,
Etiquette is the attenuation of trustworthiness, and the source of disorder.
Foreknowledge is but the blossomy ornament of the Way, and the source of ignorance.

For this reason,
The great man resides in substance, not in attenuation.
He resides in fruitful reality, not in blossomy ornament.
Therefore,
He rejects the one and adopts the other.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2015, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 14, 2015, 04:34:19 PM
Back to more serious philosophy, from the Tao Te Ching:

The person of superior integrity does not insist upon his integrity;
For this reason he has integrity.
The person of inferior integrity never loses sight of his integrity;
For this reason, he lacks integrity.

The person of superior integrity takes no action, nor has he a purpose for acting.
The person of superior humaneness takes action, but has no purpose for acting.
The person of superior righteousness takes action, and has purpose for acting.
The person of superior etiquette takes action, but others do not respond to him;
Whereupon he rolls up his sleeves and coerces them.

Therefore when the Way is lost, afterward comes integrity.
When integrity is lost, afterward comes humaneness.
When humaneness is lost, afterward comes righteousness.
When righteousness is lost, afterword comes etiquette.

Now,
Etiquette is the attenuation of trustworthiness, and the source of disorder.
Foreknowledge is but the blossomy ornament of the Way, and the source of ignorance.

For this reason,
The great man resides in substance, not in attenuation.
He resides in fruitful reality, not in blossomy ornament.
Therefore,
He rejects the one and adopts the other.
So people who have something don't overcompensate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 14, 2015, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2015, 05:15:20 PM
So people who have something don't overcompensate.

And people of integrity have no need of coercion.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 15, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/diets-fail-eat-less-move-bad-advice/
*applause!*
Looking back, I was most successful with weight loss when I treated it like a lifestyle, in much the way he says here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 15, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 15, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/diets-fail-eat-less-move-bad-advice/
*applause!*
Looking back, I was most successful with weight loss when I treated it like a lifestyle, in much the way he says here.

I guess that's one more reason why the meme laughing at people taking the escalators to a gym is bogus.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 15, 2015, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 15, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
I guess that's one more reason why the meme laughing at people taking the escalators to a gym is bogus.
It's also why I want to scream whenever I hear someone say, "just watch what you eat/just stop taking the drug" etc.  Folks, the person you're talking to doesn't have infinite willpower/ego/etc.  It would be like a celebrity listening to you complain about $400 to repair your car and who replies with, "just buy another one!"  Just because *you" don't struggle with something doesn't mean everyone else doesn't struggle with it as well.  It makes me wonder, as someone with Asperger's Syndrome just how far off in terms of empathy we ASD folk really are from non-autistics...

And in that vein, another epic win from Menno, this time from his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/BayesianBodybuilding/posts/807879405936563
"Q: "Have you got evidence that IIFYM has a poor record of weight loss success in the average person?"

A: I've gotten this question so often now it's starting to scare me. This is extremely important to grasp as a personal trainer: what works for you does not necessarily work for your clients. Look around you. There's an obesity epidemic. You think it's because people don't know they eat too much? The problem is first and foremost compliance. An optimized diet won't achieve jack if someone isn't following the diet in the first place.

If you actually need a reference for this, here's a nice one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10996578

Giving people their own instructions to to go on a diet is even less effective than having them follow the Weight Watchers program.

This is striking, because Weight Watchers is basically a simplified and assisted version of IIFYM (you count 'points' instead of calories, with the premise that's all that matters) and has an extremely poor compliance record already. In fact, it's no better than most other commercial gimmick diets for long term body composition change. See: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=718051

IIFYM isn't a magic solution for compliance in the general population. It only feels that way when your frame of reference is eating rice and chicken 6 times a day. Giving the average fat person a set of macros to follow is like telling a smoker to 'just quit smoking'."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on February 18, 2015, 12:57:14 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on February 18, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1bTi9Yy09Oq
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on February 18, 2015, 03:35:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 18, 2015, 03:58:42 PM
Okay, not a change in Da Rules or anything, I'm requesting this as a fellow user and not requiring as an administrator, but if you could, especially when posting long videos, at least tell us something about what they're about and why they're Fav or Fail?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 18, 2015, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on February 18, 2015, 12:57:14 AM
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that's a hell of a "creation myth" at the beginning: "I played with my dick till I had a better idea" :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 19, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
[yt]gjrLXS4iXIU[/yt]
Still a classic. :)

Another one:
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Two reasons I'm still subscribed to Morrakiu. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 22, 2015, 09:02:38 PM
I guess the humor would be lost here on most, but I find this very funny:

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in case you want to know what is being said:

[spoiler]
Hitler (happy): Fine day that we finally have something to eat....This they call in their speech "al-hurras restaurant" in their speech...but true, the place is a bit cramped (this is @ 0:12)...weren't you braught here *obscure Omani word*? Isn't this the thing guys? grape leaves or Courgettes, something...

where they want to imitate* terrible potatoes so that they can't recognize it as potatoes (or alternately: so that they don't know what potatoes are anymore)--wasn't that what brought us here?

Goebbels: You Billy-goat! since yesterday you've been wanting to sit us down wanting to eat!

Hitler: you idiot, I told you I wanted McChicken...I don't want to eat courgettes or Manganese dioxide or whatever. God damn the father of whoever eats such a thing! I wouldn't enjoy it till I swallow the *another obscure word*--will not enjoy this shit! so I swallow it quickly instead

*guy walks in* Hitler: Ah!! the bill has come! Can you guys believe this is on me today? *looks at the numbers at a glance*: I want to know: what is with these numbers guys? honestly guys...

*persuing...starts to get angry*: 14 and a half Euros...and by the children of the faith Fifteen Euros for Salad--what is wrong with you? Who's the lowlife who wrote this with his hand? (no need to translate--this is when in German he says Himmler's name)

*getting real angry*: I said not to order seafood!!!! you're going to make me broke people!!!but I want to know the animal who ordered the Mataafi**!!!! You see this? didn't I tell you yesterday? didn't I say no one remind me of Kentucky?! Didn't I say so?! yes you guys said--yes yes yes yes yes!!! Who has money?! I will honestly not pay this myself! I know yesterday was pay-day for you! Will give some cash or not?! I tell you, whoever doesn't want to pay, get out! *everyone leaves*

I think you guys are getting the point at this point....
[/spoiler]

*could also mean prepare...Apparently Hitler here hates potatoes.
**it's a type of delicacy
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 23, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
Did I miss this before in this thread?

http://metaleater.com/video-games/feature/why-feminist-frequency-almost-made-me-quit-writing-about-video-games-part-1 (http://metaleater.com/video-games/feature/why-feminist-frequency-almost-made-me-quit-writing-about-video-games-part-1)

A five-part essay about why Anita's analysis is somewhere between vapid, stupid, and just plain wrong.  She does give Anita too much credit in places, such as describing the theories she uses as being 1990's stuff, when Anita really does use 1970's era versions of things like the 'Male Gaze; theory, current versions (and even 1990's versions) of which reject the idea that anything men like to look a must be bad BECAUSE men like to look at it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 23, 2015, 01:52:20 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_22252_7-things-50-shades-gets-wrong-about-bdsm-from-expert.html … As a guy who'd like to experiment with the stuff someday, I found that very informative. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on February 27, 2015, 11:02:45 AM
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10478665_730910176955224_7228561396931510946_n.jpg?oh=46b12e604dd769e86a46a79b672f553b&oe=554A040E)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 01, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
This tweet. (https://twitter.com/CaptainWeeab00/status/572117327187210241)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/o8yzk4.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 01, 2015, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: D on March 01, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
This tweet. (https://twitter.com/CaptainWeeab00/status/572117327187210241)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/o8yzk4.jpg)

Scary part is, there are schools that are actually doing that!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 02, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
Pat Condell on his game again!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 02, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
Jerry Pournelle being awesome about Net Neutrality:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 02, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
That Mitchell and Web look take on Homeopathy:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on March 02, 2015, 08:05:38 PM
That's crazy talk Simon.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 02, 2015, 10:46:20 PM
Not so much a favorite quote, but rather a favorite (and surreal) moment in Far Cry 2:

so I'm playing Far Cry 2, and my rescue buddy, a character named Josip Idromeno, is reading a map inside what was believed to be a secured hut (thank you game...), braced against a wall.

My character--some Algerian dude--walks out to grab the glider right outside, carrying an RPG. As I am about to take it for a glide, I hear mumbling. I turn my character around, and there's this mercenary, half naked with an AK-47--I'd say 10 yards away. He starts shooting, but misses. Not thinking, I pull the trigger on my character's RPG. The merc is vaporized, as the shell blasts through him and into the ground a few yards behind him (so I'm unharmed).

However, there happened to be an ammunition crate there--right against the very wall Idromeno was leaning against inside the hut. This promptly goes up, with rounds going off every which way, and grenades detonating. I hear grumbles and moans, and think he's been wounded--killed even. I wait till the explosions stop, and walk into the door. The room is completely concealed in smoke--like something out of a Napoleonic battlefield; I cannot see even the outline of a body. As I slowly creep forward, the smoke clears slightly, and I see the silhouette of a standing man. As the Smoke clears further, I realize Idromeno is still standing there--totally unharmed--reading his map as if nothing happened.

turned out the groans were from another mercenary nearby who had be struck by the discharged rounds--hadn't even see him: he was found the corner behind the crate.

video games are weird....
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 03, 2015, 02:26:32 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 05, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11021219_852200091511662_4319034637002426277_n.jpg?oh=9b4bf8bc577d080c7e9acd5e2e9091d4&oe=558D42E8&__gda__=1433608066_addd52bc192af5895f499ef8518ef595)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 06, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/03/03/proof-hes-the-science-guy-bill-nye-is-changing-his-mind-about-gmos/

Bill Nye "The Science Guy", acknowledges that there is no danger in GMOs
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 06, 2015, 10:18:14 PM
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A justifiable reason to despise SJWs.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 09, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 10, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
Quoteif the social contract is real then it means anytime anyone commits a crime against you the government has breached your contract.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on March 10, 2015, 11:10:08 PM
http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/113010314274/female-portrayals-in-video-games
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 11, 2015, 06:26:17 AM
Quote from: tnu on March 10, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
if the social contract is real then it means anytime anyone commits a crime against you the government has breached your contract.

Or whenever government spies on you or does any number of the things that it does on a daily basis. I've often asked how government has not well and truly breached the contract by now!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on March 11, 2015, 10:36:50 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 12, 2015, 12:53:03 AM
[yt]ddmQz5uYcL0[/yt]


Love that insane Canadian (who is of Italian descent). Got to also give respect the Dutch fellow he is with--not everyday I see a Dutch fellow with a backbone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 12, 2015, 07:17:55 AM
Quote from: ArtemisVale on March 11, 2015, 10:36:50 PM
[yt]JBYMA57yC68&t=112[/yt]

It seems to me that tyranny is generally justified two ways:

One is by pointing to an oppressed or marginalized group (regardless of whether they actually are oppressed or marginalized) and saying that they're helpless and need protection, even though most of them are perfectly capable of protecting themselves if only they're set free to do it.

The other is by pointing to hobgoblins that threaten our freedom or our way of life, and regardless of whether or not they actually exist promote doing all the things that wouldn't do anything to protect us from them anyway.

Seems to me Sarkeesian and the rest of the anti-GG crowd is doing both!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 12, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 12, 2015, 07:17:55 AM
It seems to me that tyranny is generally justified two ways:

One is by pointing to an oppressed or marginalized group (regardless of whether they actually are oppressed or marginalized) and saying that they're helpless and need protection, even though most of them are perfectly capable of protecting themselves if only they're set free to do it.

The other is by pointing to hobgoblins that threaten our freedom or our way of life, and regardless of whether or not they actually exist promote doing all the things that wouldn't do anything to protect us from them anyway.

Seems to me Sarkeesian and the rest of the anti-GG crowd is doing both!

Glad you added the bit at the bottom of that post.  As I was going to note the same thing!  Those two don't seem mutually exclusive at all.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 13, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 12, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
Glad you added the bit at the bottom of that post.  As I was going to note the same thing!  Those two don't seem mutually exclusive at all.

They're not mutually exclusive.  In fact, they're complimentary:  If there are 'helpless' people needing 'protection', it follows directly that there needs to be someone to 'protect' against, and someone who gains from advocating for the 'protection' doesn't want anything that actually works to be done because if it did work, their power base would be gone.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 13, 2015, 09:32:21 PM
I'm very happy with this Facebook post of mine:

What we'd hear on TV if the news were honest:

"There was a massive meta-analysis of what factors make a country prosperous and happy. They did regressions against many variables like resources, location, climate, race, overall intelligence of the population, etc. And it turns out all of that stuff is completely irreverent. What separates the countries that are rich & happy from the ones that are poor & miserable, is that the former are more free--less government size, scope and power than the latter. And it makes so much sense. You can have the most intelligent people with the best and most resources, but if they don't have the freedom to actually use what they've got to better themselves and thus have no incentive to do so, why would they?"
This was inspired by Shane Killian's video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRlcWVrMyAw

And inspired by Menno Henselmans' interview with Primal Edge Health noting that it is being more muscular that separates the elite from the good in just about every sport, with the vast majority of the other stuff being irreverent. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 14, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFTERjXEAEdy36.png)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11068812_804281242972996_1163634369_n.jpg?oh=e9f2dd70850b1f403b3389c6f0c623cc&oe=55074D79&__gda__=1426511337_bdc2257ef5d95823e2e57b54ab9b7f9d)
From my friend Lucas on Facebook. :)

It reminds me of how the people whining the loudest about "the rich" in my experience, tend to be the ones most well off.  Gotta love hipster-shit-for-brains.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 14, 2015, 09:33:19 PM
OT, but I noticed that this thread has 314 pages...3.14...on pi day.  Awesome. ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 15, 2015, 03:48:46 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 17, 2015, 09:00:37 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on March 17, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
Well here's an awesome song from Kermit

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 17, 2015, 02:13:35 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10477389_1589720024608497_2001559202134611721_n.png?oh=9a6425348fa635e1a64493660876ff30&oe=557334D0&__gda__=1438391424_7bb1934b085af45a26660f71bfe80422)
This...This is my problem with trans people. The dishonesty that so often accompanies it. Well, that and the SJW baggage that so many of them have too.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 17, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on March 17, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
Well here's an awesome song from Kermit

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Written by Paul Williams, actually.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 17, 2015, 02:59:14 PM
They'll always tell what it isn't.  They'll never tell you what it is - Ayn Rand

I'm sure I don't have to explain what she's referring to.
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 18, 2015, 06:18:14 PM
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MY SIDES! AHHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by: Travis Retriever on March 18, 2015, 06:27:15 PM
[yt]rnbtRiLamsw[/yt]

Also win. X3
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Post by: MrBogosity on March 19, 2015, 05:12:49 PM
Love THP, love this video!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 19, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
"'Closed minded.' Translation: 'You're a meanie for not unconditionally accepting my position as absolute truth without scrutiny, but I'm not a closed minded pillock for not considering the possibility that I'm wrong.'" —Travis Retriever
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 20, 2015, 06:37:37 PM
As much as we bash Republicans for being Big-Government boneheads they pretend to not be, there are certainly times when they make serious efforts to claw back it's power.

Texas State Representative David Simpson has introduced a bill that would put an end to civil asset forfeiture.

Here's the text (https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB3171/2015)

David Simpson has also publicly supported putting an end to pot prohibition as well (http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/04/the-constitutional-conservative-who-want).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 20, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
On the tech front Cisco is shipping it's computers to fake addresses to keep the NSA from compromising their products.

From Techdirt (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150320/08335930383/cisco-shipping-hardware-to-bogus-addresses-to-throw-off-nsa-intercept-and-implant-efforts.shtml)

Honestly it's more of a symbolic gesture, but it's yet another sign that the tech industry is getting tired of the NSA's shenanigans.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 20, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 20, 2015, 06:37:37 PM
As much as we bash Republicans for being Big-Government boneheads they pretend to not be, there are certainly times when they make serious efforts to claw back it's power.

Texas State Representative David Simpson has introduced a bill that would put an end to civil asset forfeiture.

Here's the text (https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB3171/2015)

David Simpson has also publicly supported putting an end to pot prohibition as well (http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/04/the-constitutional-conservative-who-want).

Well, he's from Texas, the same state that kept electing Ron Paul time and time again.  Didn't Ron Paul win every election he stood for for the House or Senate?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on March 20, 2015, 11:07:20 PM
http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-363-its-happening-seasteading-liberty-through-floating-cities/

I just love that this is happening. Im gonna start my own island and be like a pirate...With less pillaging and raping and more art and decent living standards.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 21, 2015, 12:08:59 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 20, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Well, he's from Texas, the same state that kept electing Ron Paul time and time again.  Didn't Ron Paul win every election he stood for for the House or Senate?

It was the Senate
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 21, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 21, 2015, 12:08:59 AM
It was the Senate

No, Ron Paul was elected to the House.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 21, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 21, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
No, Ron Paul was elected to the House.

Now that I check, not only has Dr. No never been elected to the Senate (only running once, and leaving politics for a while after losing), he lost twice on runs for the House, although there's not really a lot to say about him losing his first time standing, particularly since the incumbent had been in office for over a decade at that point.  He won a special election when that member left for an appointed post, then lost re-election by a tiny margin.  Ever since, he's had solid success in every House election he's been in.  I really have no idea where I got the idea he'd been a Senator.  He certainly SEEMS the sort to be in the Senate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 21, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 21, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
Now that I check, not only has Dr. No never been elected to the Senate (only running once, and leaving politics for a while after losing), he lost twice on runs for the House, although there's not really a lot to say about him losing his first time standing, particularly since the incumbent had been in office for over a decade at that point.  He won a special election when that member left for an appointed post, then lost re-election by a tiny margin.  Ever since, he's had solid success in every House election he's been in.  I really have no idea where I got the idea he'd been a Senator.  He certainly SEEMS the sort to be in the Senate.

His son is in the Senate, so maybe that's how you got confused.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 21, 2015, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 21, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
No, Ron Paul was elected to the House.

*Headdesk* damnit you're right.  Dick Durbin and Ted Cruz (blegh) are our senators.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 21, 2015, 05:25:24 PM
"Protip: whenever some 'progressive' starts ranting about Libertarians being rich brats who don't care about the poor, just substitute 'Libertarian' with 'Jew' and you'll understand everything you need to know."—Shane Killian
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 24, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
(https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1795733_976283555738629_7784543446031220426_n.jpg?oh=b1938a6f5fb9b89277831a5e36b35b5d&oe=55B967D6)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on March 24, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 24, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
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But it's rapey ... :(

Think about the children !
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 24, 2015, 05:49:40 PM
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Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 24, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 24, 2015, 05:49:40 PM
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LOL!  Would've laughed just as hard if it is Dubya's face.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 24, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/22614_872755902791250_7116950352685778490_n.jpg?oh=ad1d7e6b9bd2ef34de872d8a35645d51&oe=55BCAE89)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 25, 2015, 05:13:40 PM
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10708633_1628427260726376_2730332526153244673_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on March 26, 2015, 01:10:54 AM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 25, 2015, 05:13:40 PM
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To be fair, the two mods that rebuild Helgen are among the best that exist fo4r the game.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 26, 2015, 07:17:45 AM
This is just so completely over the top (and manages to combine references to two great films):

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 26, 2015, 07:36:47 AM
http://imgur.com/a/8anj7

A fun trick to show the bigotry of SJW's crystal clear.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 26, 2015, 08:01:09 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 26, 2015, 07:36:47 AM
http://imgur.com/a/8anj7

A fun trick to show the bigotry of SJW's crystal clear.

I recently posted something similar on Facebook about Libertarians, when "progressives" say we hate the poor or whatever. And the progressive bigots came out in DROVES! They REALLY hate having their bigotry pointed out... https://www.facebook.com/shanedk/posts/10152823895418131
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on March 26, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 26, 2015, 07:36:47 AM
http://imgur.com/a/8anj7

A fun trick to show the bigotry of SJW's crystal clear.

I use "terrorist." Tell 'em they sound like Bush and they'll lose their shit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on March 26, 2015, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 26, 2015, 08:01:09 AM
I recently posted something similar on Facebook about Libertarians, when "progressives" say we hate the poor or whatever. And the progressive bigots came out in DROVES! They REALLY hate having their bigotry pointed out... https://www.facebook.com/shanedk/posts/10152823895418131

Oh, brother! The comment section of that merits it's own thread of fail, with Amy Lynn having her own sub column. 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 26, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/BayesianBodybuilding/posts/843520395705797 Menno's comments regarding addiction in the comment thread starting with Tony Zuanich. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on March 26, 2015, 04:53:24 PM
Lately, I've been getting into Steven Universe. It may be a cartoon "for kids", but sometimes, the dialogue creates deep gems such as this (http://sniffi.ng/post/114540895550/this-show-is-on-a-whole-other-level):

"Humans just lead short, boring, insignificant lives so they make up stories to feel like they're a part of something bigger. They want to blame all the world's problems on some single enemy they can fight instead of a complex network of interrelated forces beyond anyone's control." - Pearl, "Steven Universe."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 26, 2015, 07:25:19 PM
Mind the new dress code: http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/03/message-to-errata-employees.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 28, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=703_1427462917

Judges are normally politicians in robes, but it's good to see when an dumbass overzealous prosecutor gets the rhetorical bitchslapping they deserve.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on March 28, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
An example of "replace X with jews and see if it stills stands with the advocated morals"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXstvJPhCMQ
The video lasts only 10 minutes but you can get the idea with the first 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 28, 2015, 11:15:58 PM
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2015/03/29/after-indiana-23-more-states-could-pass-discrimination-bills
Note the not-so-subtle rhetoric they employ by calling it "discrimination" and not "freedom of association."  Hopefully the rest of the country will follow suit. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 29, 2015, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 28, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=703_1427462917

Judges are normally politicians in robes, but it's good to see when an dumbass overzealous prosecutor gets the rhetorical bitchslapping they deserve.

Yep, FINALLY a judge does the right thing. And what happens? "Officials told Eyewitness News that as a result of the incident, Schott will soon only be presiding over civil cases."

There is no winning here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 29, 2015, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 29, 2015, 06:18:02 AM
Yep, FINALLY a judge does the right thing. And what happens? "Officials told Eyewitness News that as a result of the incident, Schott will soon only be presiding over civil cases."

There is no winning here.

Yes that's decision of the state of Florida unfortunately.  Government doesn't like being punished for its bad behavoir.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 29, 2015, 04:44:28 PM
Welp, to cheer you both up:  http://genius.com/John-papola-fight-of-the-century-keynes-vs-hayek-round-two-lyrics
:)
These two stanzas in particular are nothing short of slam dunk, silver cluon material (and IIRC, the video itself DID win a SC a few years back):

Hayek:  The economy's not a car, there's no engine to stall
No expert can fix it, there's no "it" at all
The economy's us, we don't need a mechanic
Put away the wrenches, the economy's organic


Hayek:  People aren't chess men you move on a board at your whim
Their dreams and desires ignored

With political incentives, discretion's a joke
Those dials you're twisting? Just mirrors and smoke
We need stable rules and real market prices
So prosperity emerges and cuts short the crisis
Give us a chance so we can discover the most valuable ways to serve one another

(emphasis added by me)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 30, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
"Libertarianism is not an ideology. It's the critique of ideology -- the notion that you or anyone knows how to run something as complex as a society. That said, libertarianism runs a spectrum of its own. Some libertarians run for office. On the other end some libertarians think voting is aiding and abetting the initiation of force. But they all agree on basically one thing... That "The State" does too much. Every libertarian wants to reduce the role of coercive force." —Jim Babka
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 30, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
"Libertarianism is not an ideology. It's the critique of ideology -- the notion that you or anyone knows how to run something as complex as a society. That said, libertarianism runs a spectrum of its own. Some libertarians run for office. On the other end some libertarians think voting is aiding and abetting the initiation of force. But they all agree on basically one thing... That "The State" does too much. Every libertarian wants to reduce the role of coercive force." —Jim Babka
Something similar could be said of atheism, it also being a negative philosophy. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2015, 08:32:24 PM
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."―Friedrich August von Hayek

"The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed, the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually slaves of some defunct economist." ―John Maynard Keynes
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
"Once you grant the government some new power or authority, it becomes exponentially more difficult to roll it back. Regardless of how little value a program or power has been shown to have (such as the Section 215 dragnet interception of call records in the United States, which the government's own investigation found never stopped a single imminent terrorist attack despite a decade of operation), once it's a sunk cost, once dollars and reputations have been invested in it, it's hard to peel that back.

"Don't let it happen in your country."

—Edward Snowden
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
"Dem efforts to hand Hillary Clinton the nomination without contest are so depressing. She's the ultimate guardian of bipartisan status quo corruption, and no debate will happen if she's the nominee against some standard Romney/Bush-type GOP candidate. Some genuine dissenting force is crucial." —Gleen Greenwald
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
"When we look back on history, the progress of Western civilization and human rights is actually founded on the violation of law. America was of course born out of a violent revolution that was an outrageous treason against the crown and established order of the day. History shows that the righting of historical wrongs is often born from acts of unrepentant criminality. Slavery. The protection of persecuted Jews.

"But even on less extremist topics, we can find similar examples. How about the prohibition of alcohol? Gay marriage? Marijuana?

"Where would we be today if the government, enjoying powers of perfect surveillance and enforcement, had -- entirely within the law -- rounded up, imprisoned, and shamed all of these lawbreakers?

"Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our agency in determing thour futures."

—Edward Snowden
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 02, 2015, 07:00:57 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 02, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
Speaking as a disabled gamer I would have to say that Rockstar has done extremely well at balancing accessibility and quality. Mainly through the option to skip segments of missions if you're having trouble with them.doesn't really apply for online stuff like Halo, Call of Du ty, or Titenfall but I don't play online so meh. my one complaint with the industry in this regard is that most of hte visual novels and adventure games that I would ot herwise love to play are usually exclusive to handhelds. so all I'd really want is for Nintendo and other makers of handhelds to to follow Sony in allowing a Microconsole or like how y ou could play a GBA on a Gamecube. j ust give that option and a lot of the visually impaired fans would be VERY happy.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 02, 2015, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: tnu on April 02, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
Speaking as a disabled gamer I would have to say that Rockstar has done extremely well at balancing accessibility and quality. Mainly through the option to skip segments of missions if you're having trouble with them.doesn't really apply for online stuff like Halo, Call of Du ty, or Titenfall but I don't play online so meh. my one complaint with the industry in this regard is that most of hte visual novels and adventure games that I would ot herwise love to play are usually exclusive to handhelds. so all I'd really want is for Nintendo and other makers of handhelds to to follow Sony in allowing a Microconsole or like how y ou could play a GBA on a Gamecube. j ust give that option and a lot of the visually impaired fans would be VERY happy.

The problem with that being it increases costs on a product that they already lose money on.  (For the last several years, all consoles have sold for less than they cost to manufacture.  The manufacturers make up the money on the license fees game developers have to pay to get their games onto the consoles.  This is part of what keeps console game prices high.)  They would need to get the idea on their radar, then do a complex cost/benefit analysis to decide if they would make more money in license fees than it would cost to do.  JUST for visually impaired gamers, I doubt it would fly.  If lots of people wanted to play their handheld console games on their fixed console with the big screen and usually nicer controllers, then it would be fine.  (I don't know how old you are, but it was actually Nintendo that first did that, allowing you to play GB games on the SNES by way of an adapter.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 02, 2015, 06:48:09 PM
The problem with that being it increases costs on a product that they already lose money on.  (For the last several years, all consoles have sold for less than they cost to manufacture.  The manufacturers make up the money on the license fees game developers have to pay to get their games onto the consoles.  This is part of what keeps console game prices high.)  They would need to get the idea on their radar, then do a complex cost/benefit analysis to decide if they would make more money in license fees than it would cost to do.  JUST for visually impaired gamers, I doubt it would fly.  If lots of people wanted to play their handheld console games on their fixed console with the big screen and usually nicer controllers, then it would be fine.  (I don't know how old you are, but it was actually Nintendo that first did that, allowing you to play GB games on the SNES by way of an adapter.)

Isn't it possible nowadays to plug any handheld console on any TV ? Sounds to me like it could be pretty mundane ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
Isn't it possible nowadays to plug any handheld console on any TV ? Sounds to me like it could be pretty mundane ...
You can do that nowadays? O.o
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
You can do that nowadays? O.o

Is it sarcasm ? What am I missing ? The only thing needed is a video output on the console ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
Is it sarcasm ? What am I missing ? The only thing needed is a video output on the console ...
You said handheld.  I don't recall being able to plug my Gameboy Advance into my TV.  Nor have I bought a DS or 3DS, etc.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
You said handheld.  I don't recall being able to plug my Gameboy Advance into my TV.  Nor have I bought a DS or 3DS, etc.

Well, that's what I was asking. It sounds mundane to me because it's easy to do for a manufacturer. But I don't know if handheld consoles are equipped so I asked. What did you understand ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Well, that's what I was asking. It sounds mundane to me because it's easy to do for a manufacturer. But I don't know if handheld consoles are equipped so I asked. What did you understand ?
I thought you were being rhetorical though.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
Out of curiosity, what made you think that ? And, how would you say it ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on April 02, 2015, 10:35:11 PM
Sony seems to be doing it just fine. Microconsoles like the PSTV seem to be able to be manufactured very cheeply for the mobile market. It also probably sells to those who would otherwise be able to play a PS Vita but just want a cheeper alternative and thus wouldn't be buying a Vita regardless.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
Out of curiosity, what made you think that ? And, how would you say it ?
I guess I've heard it worded that way, "isn't it possible..." a few too many times to mean it like that. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 02, 2015, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 02, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
I guess I've heard it worded that way, "isn't it possible..." a few too many times to mean it like that. *shrugs*

Oh I get it now ... I too have heard it used to that end before.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on April 05, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/20-stupid-feminist-questions-men-answered/

LOVE this one.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on April 05, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/20-stupid-feminist-questions-men-answered/

LOVE this one.
Read the questions and the responses.  My thoughts on the questions:  A bunch of horseshit gibberish showing just how removed these SJWs are from the world.

And related to that:  http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/libertarians-great-bed/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 05, 2015, 07:56:30 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/05/army-soldiers-sit-through-white-privilege-presentation-and-the-backlash-isnt-pretty/ Nice. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 06, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
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Scathing condemnation of Wu, Sarkesian, and company from Mercedes Carrera on their silence about what happened to Cytherea while they peddle their crap to gather money for themselves.  (And some stuff you can do to help Cytherea through this excruciating time.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on April 06, 2015, 07:22:20 PM
John Oliver interviews Edward Snowden (no really):

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So it seems Edward Snowden isn't 100% against the NSA.  But since they were abusing their powers he leaked classified info much to his own peril.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 06, 2015, 10:10:18 PM
In this kind of TV programms, I never knwo what to think about those random interviews on the street .. Certainly looks bad, but I always keep in mind that it's a comedy show ... The MSNBC bit on the other hand, is damning. How is that even possible ?

Anyway, When I hear about that kind of stories, I always wonder what my own government is hiding me. In particular with respect to the various military interventions of the past decade or so ... I mean, I know governments lie, that's a given, but damnit, I'm so curious about it. A government like mine is bound to have giant skeletons of its own ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 08, 2015, 02:40:07 AM
Earlier today I saw a video about "SJW Lexicon" by Sargon of Akkad.

I'd like to make my own small correction:

Mansplaining: When someone (usually male but not always) calls someone (usually female, but not always) out on their bullshit, using facts, or otherwise demonstrating why the party in the second is full of shit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 08, 2015, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 08, 2015, 02:40:07 AM
Earlier today I saw a video about "SJW Lexicon" by Sargon of Akkad.

I'd like to make my own small correction:

Mansplaining: When someone (usually male but not always) calls someone (usually female, but not always) out on their bullshit, using facts, or otherwise demonstrating why the party in the second is full of shit.

I'm really fed up with all that shit ... Trying to make it about the gender of the person instead of the character of said person or the circumstances ... I've never been able to laugh about it. Too upsetting for me. The shear size of the pool of terms they use that way is depressing.
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Post by: evensgrey on April 09, 2015, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on April 06, 2015, 07:22:20 PM
So it seems Edward Snowden isn't 100% against the NSA.  But since they were abusing their powers he leaked classified info much to his own peril.

Which goes to show that Snowden really is the reasonable figure in this matter.  There are potential, valid activities the NSA could be engaging in that really would make the world a safer place, but they'd much rather enact general surveillance against the US population and indulge in industrial espionage against foreign firms.
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Post by: MrBogosity on April 09, 2015, 09:04:09 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 09, 2015, 07:32:41 AM
Which goes to show that Snowden really is the reasonable figure in this matter.  There are potential, valid activities the NSA could be engaging in that really would make the world a safer place, but they'd much rather enact general surveillance against the US population and indulge in industrial espionage against foreign firms.

The issue is, the NSA has conflicting purposes. One is to secure the nation's information infrastructure, and the other is to gather foreign intelligence information. Apparently, Congress is too computer illiterate to realize how these are at odds with each other. We covered an example on the podcast a few weeks ago: a holdover from the days when encryption wasn't allowed to be exported, 20 years later was still causing security issues.
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Post by: ArtemisVale on April 09, 2015, 01:00:06 PM
Best jim sterling impression at the end of the vid

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Post by: tnu on April 09, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 09, 2015, 09:04:09 AM
The issue is, the NSA has conflicting purposes. One is to secure the nation's information infrastructure, and the other is to gather foreign intelligence information. Apparently, Congress is too computer illiterate to realize how these are at odds with each other. We covered an example on the podcast a few weeks ago: a holdover from the days when encryption wasn't allowed to be exported, 20 years later was still causing security issues.


I'm not sure. I mean the very definition of Double think is to  hold two mutually contredictory beliefs, knowing they are contredictory, but believing and convincing yourself that they are not
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
While we're not vocal supporters of public schools (or California for that matter), California does something good for once (http://rare.us/story/california-just-made-a-very-big-move-in-the-ongoing-vaccination-debate/).

Seriously if you're going to mandate that children get their education from these institutions you should require that EACH AND EVERYONE of them get their fucking vaccines already.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 09, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
While we're not vocal supporters of public schools (or California for that matter), California does something good for once (http://rare.us/story/california-just-made-a-very-big-move-in-the-ongoing-vaccination-debate/).

Seriously if you're going to mandate that children get their education from these institutions you should require that EACH AND EVERYONE of them get their fucking vaccines already.

My opinion on this is, private schools and daycares should require vaccines (and most of them do), and the same rules should apply to the government as to the rest of us. Yes, we don't want government run schools, but as long as we have them VACCINATE!
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Post by: dallen68 on April 09, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 09, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
My opinion on this is, private schools and daycares should require vaccines (and most of them do), and the same rules should apply to the government as to the rest of us. Yes, we don't want government run schools, but as long as we have them VACCINATE!

I was under the impression that government schools DO require vaccinations, unless there's some reason the pupil can't get them. 
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 09, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
I was under the impression that government schools DO require vaccinations, unless there's some reason the pupil can't get them.

By default they do, but in many states people can cite "closely held religious beliefs" to exempt themselves by law.  This includes Texas.
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Post by: dallen68 on April 09, 2015, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 06:43:30 PM
By default they do, but in many states people can cite "closely held religious beliefs" to exempt themselves by law.  This includes Texas.

Okay, so we require those people to show documentation from their church (or whatever) that says that, then we put those students away from the others. This also prevents people just "claiming" blah, blah. Much the same way someone claiming consciencious objector status does when there's a draft.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 09, 2015, 07:24:20 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 09, 2015, 06:47:39 PM
Okay, so we require those people to show documentation from their church (or whatever) that says that, then we put those students away from the others. This also prevents people just "claiming" blah, blah. Much the same way someone claiming consciencious objector status does when there's a draft.

That reminds me, does anyone know what happened to those phony 'conscientious objectors' who fled to Canada back during the Bush administration and claimed refugee status?  (They were phony because anyone who's ready the actual terms of conscientious objector status knows that it's an exemption from military service entirely, and they were wrongly claiming that they could conscientiously object to and be exempted from specific operations or theaters.  A valid claim under this section would result in a discharge.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 09, 2015, 06:47:39 PM
Okay, so we require those people to show documentation from their church (or whatever) that says that, then we put those students away from the others. This also prevents people just "claiming" blah, blah. Much the same way someone claiming consciencious objector status does when there's a draft.

I'd imagine anyone with the proper resources could just draw up such documentation to satisfy anyone who looks at it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 10, 2015, 12:05:25 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on April 09, 2015, 07:24:20 PM
That reminds me, does anyone know what happened to those phony 'conscientious objectors' who fled to Canada back during the Bush administration and claimed refugee status?  (They were phony because anyone who's ready the actual terms of conscientious objector status knows that it's an exemption from military service entirely, and they were wrongly claiming that they could conscientiously object to and be exempted from specific operations or theaters.  A valid claim under this section would result in a discharge.)

You can object to a mission, if you can show that it is amoral/illegal under US MILITARY law. The catch is, it's the morals of the US Military, as a whole, not you, & there's a court-type procedure to go through to establish this. This is of course, a separate thing from being a conscientious objector, which is meaningless when there isn't conscription happening because... If you conscientiously object, why did you join?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on April 10, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on April 09, 2015, 08:16:43 PM
I'd imagine anyone with the proper resources could just draw up such documentation to satisfy anyone who looks at it.

Yes. It would also take a certain amount of skill on something like Power-Point. And I believe it would be beyond the skills of most woo-ers (well, the "I'm making shit up because I want to be spethal" variety, anyway).  Others would (hopefully) reconsider when they realized what the trade offs were. Those of genuine faith would just accept those trade-offs as a cost of faith.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 10, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on April 10, 2015, 12:05:25 AM
You can object to a mission, if you can show that it is amoral/illegal under US MILITARY law. The catch is, it's the morals of the US Military, as a whole, not you, & there's a court-type procedure to go through to establish this. This is of course, a separate thing from being a conscientious objector, which is meaningless when there isn't conscription happening because... If you conscientiously object, why did you join?

They were claiming that the mission was illegal, but were talking about being conscientious objectors instead of following the correct procedure.  (If I understand correctly, since it is a crime to follow an illegal order, and any orders to partake in an illegal operation would be illegal by definition, the court-martial that would follow from refusing the deployment orders would have to deal with the claim that the operation is illegal as a defense.  That's a tough row to hoe, as penalties are severe and US military courts are, at best, extremely questionable.)

As to the last question, it CAN come up, IF you come to accept the NIF while serving.  A while back, Stefan had an interview with a guy who had done precisely that:  He joined up, and during his period of service had come to accept the NIF and was in the process of going through the arduous process of establishing himself to NOW be a conscientious objector and getting himself a discharge.  Unlike the people I was asking about above, he didn't run away after an obviously frivolous claim was denied.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 11, 2015, 04:31:27 PM
http://randommization.com/2013/09/12/if-you-add-drunk-people-to-fitness-quotes-things-get-hilarious/
I laughed my ass off at this last night.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 13, 2015, 09:36:23 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on April 14, 2015, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on April 13, 2015, 09:36:23 PM
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Man, I wish this wasn't so accurate.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: ArtemisVale on April 14, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
I laughed

http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/14/more-anti-libertarian-nonsense-from-the
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 21, 2015, 01:46:22 PM
Excellent summary of why the Wage Gap is bogus:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on April 21, 2015, 04:20:33 PM
Yeah I posted this one in the thread I made the other day.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 22, 2015, 09:36:41 AM
More win from DownsizeDC:

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The letter I sent:

People have the right to choose what goes in their own bodies, and there is no moral justification in denying potentially-beneficial medicine to sick people.

HIV drugs were allowed to bypass most of the FDA approval process. Because of this, hundreds of thousands of people now live who would otherwise be dead. We need to take the same approach to all diseases.

UL has proven how the voluntary model works. Let's make the FDA work the same way.

Write Congress: https://downsizedc.org/etp/fda/

Sign the petition: https://www.change.org/p/us-senate-u-s-house-of-representatives-lamar-alexander-urge-congress-to-support-free-to-choose-medicine
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 28, 2015, 06:40:23 AM
"Destroying private property to make a point against the state is like giving yourself a black eye to show cancer who's boss." —That Guy T
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Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
"I can't believe I have to actually say this to grown adults, but the situation in Baltimore has brought out the worst in everyone. On the one hand, you have people who are viewing these riots with a sense of blood lust and borderline racism in hoping that cops mow down everyone in the street and are suddenly innocent of all wrong doing, On the other hand you have people who are saying the rioters are completely without responsibility for their actions and that these riots are a good thing because violence is suddenly a viable solution to solving problems.
Let me make this clear. There are very few good guys in this situation. The good guys are the ones who are defending their homes and businesses. The good guys are the EMTs and firemen who, despite dealing with people doing everything in their power to stop them, are trying their damnedest to save as many lives and put out as many fires as humanly possible given the conditions. To those who believe that the actions of the police suddenly justify the riots, I say to you that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. To those who want to see people get mowed down and crushed by tanks, stop. Your blood lust is not needed.
In an insane situation, it's important to hold on to your sanity as much as humanly possible."—Dave

That and the bit above from That Guy T are the two most sensible things I've heard about this entire incident.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
"You do not wish to know anything! You wish only to speak. That which you know, you ignore, because it is inconvenient. That which you do not know, you invent." —Delenn
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 29, 2015, 07:44:40 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
"You do not wish to know anything! You wish only to speak. That which you know, you ignore, because it is inconvenient. That which you do not know, you invent." —Delenn

I love the bit where that one turdwrinkle says to her, "Of course we would expect YOU to say that..." and she shuts him up with just a look!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
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One more reason to NOT have politicians and governments, I'd say!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2015, 02:09:18 PM
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^The above is a fail, but I needed to post it to give context to this post by Dave:

"'Dindu Nuffins'

Shit like this is why we can't have serious discussions on police brutality in this country. This is one part of the casual racism I've mentioned whenever it comes to situations like this.

Folks, there IS a very serious issue of police brutality in this country. Freddie Gray was a victim of police misconduct. Say what you will about his criminal background, which is mostly drug charges that didn't even end in convictions so he was essentially committing victimless crimes to begin with, he didn't deserve to die.

We have a system in place where police shoot first and ask questions later (if ever) and in a supposedly free society this is something everyone should find abhorrent, regardless of race or creed. Do I condemn the rioters and looters? Absolutely. However, remember that the rioting and looting happened for a reason. This wasn't just out of the blue rioting for the sake of rioting. In reality, this is a domestic case of blowback."--Dave

And to the ex post facto victim blaming twats screaming from the rooftops that you can "just don't commit crimes and you won't get the shit kicked out of you." I say to you that your innocence is no protection.  Just ask the people who've been shot in drug raids when they went to the wrong house, to name but a few.  And even if it didn't how does that justify the beatings and even murders?  I thought a right to habeas corpus and innocent until proven guilty were a thing.  Last I checked, unless the force is necessary (the classic scenario being shooting someone trying to mug you when all else has failed), it's still an initiation of force and 100% indefensible, and no amount of their Stockholm Syndrome and mental gymnastics will ever change that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 30, 2015, 02:15:57 PM
"Notice how good the cops are at roughing people up when there is no danger and no real threat. But when the time comes when you actually hope that the police will defend person and property against invasion, times of genuine upheaval and fear, suddenly the police retire back and become strangely passive. It happens in every case of "civil unrest," and it's always astonishing. It's when property owners discover that they are on their own. The persistence of this behavior should make everyone rethink their presumptions that tax-funded, government-run policing is the right approach to security."--Jeffrey A. Tucker
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 01, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 01, 2015, 08:47:12 AM
OK, a nice, light, NSFW video specifically relevant for today.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on May 02, 2015, 03:21:20 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 01, 2015, 08:47:12 AM
OK, a nice, light, NSFW video specifically relevant for today.

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Wow talk about barely legal >_<
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 02, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
Win!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: tnu on May 01, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
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And the corollary to this to the police asking why they need much more and all that military stuff?  I mean, folks, I understand hippies and their pot are smelly and annoying but come on! /weak attempt to make a joke
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2015, 05:22:25 PM
"Health and anabolism feed each other, as only a healthy body will build and spare muscle at the greatest possible rate."--Menno Henselmans & Casey Butt, paraphrased. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 02, 2015, 08:21:13 PM
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If you ever see this man irl, buy him a drink of his choice!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 05, 2015, 07:53:41 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on May 05, 2015, 07:53:41 AM
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WTF is Arthur Chu's problem with Yudkowsky?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 05, 2015, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
WTF is Arthur Chu's problem with Yudkowsky?

No idea. What I do know is Chu is completely insane.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 05, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
WTF is Arthur Chu's problem with Yudkowsky?

By intersecting Chu's known delusional obsessions and RationalWiki's write up on Yudkowsky, it's likely a passing reference in a piece of Yudkowsky's fiction of a weird society with radically different ideas about consent not having a law against rape.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 05, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
By intersecting Chu's known delusional obsessions and RationalWiki's write up on Yudkowsky, it's likely a passing reference in a piece of Yudkowsky's fiction of a weird society with radically different ideas about consent not having a law against rape.

Wow...that is a REAL fail of an article! (Of course, I would expect no less (better?) from RationalWiki...)

They even brought up the tired old "He inserted himself into his Harry Potter fanfic!" bullshit when anyone who's actually READ it knows that's either completely idiotic, or he doesn't consider himself the genius they claim he does (Harry ends up being VERY stupid in a lot of ways and making a lot of mistakes--and yes, this Harry's narcissism IS covered in the fanfic!).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 05, 2015, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 12:54:27 PM
Wow...that is a REAL fail of an article! (Of course, I would expect no less (better?) from RationalWiki...)

They even brought up the tired old "He inserted himself into his Harry Potter fanfic!" bullshit when anyone who's actually READ it knows that's either completely idiotic, or he doesn't consider himself the genius they claim he does (Harry ends up being VERY stupid in a lot of ways and making a lot of mistakes--and yes, this Harry's narcissism IS covered in the fanfic!).

Sounds like he came up with a variant of Harry as different from the original as the one Stefan projected into the books.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 01:40:54 PM
Controller: I can assure you that this planet has never been more efficiently, more economically run. People have never been happier, or more prosperous.

The Doctor: Then why do you need so many people to keep them under control? Don't they LIKE being happy and prosperous?

From Doctor Who: "Day of the Daleks" Part 3.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 05, 2015, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 05, 2015, 01:40:54 PM
Controller: I can assure you that this planet has never been more efficiently, more economically run. People have never been happier, or more prosperous.

The Doctor: Then why do you need so many people to keep them under control? Don't they LIKE being happy and prosperous?

From Doctor Who: "Day of the Daleks" Part 3.
Well played, Doctor, well played. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 08, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 05, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
By intersecting Chu's known delusional obsessions and RationalWiki's write up on Yudkowsky, it's likely a passing reference in a piece of Yudkowsky's fiction of a weird society with radically different ideas about consent not having a law against rape.

well, from what I've read, Arthur Chu is bound for bedlam...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 09, 2015, 03:33:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/nPh2r2M.jpg)
I knew I liked lifting for reason. :)
Yes, I know I've posted these before, I just don't care.  It needs to be posted again. :)

My version:

"In a free market, the profit & loss signals never lie to you.  You can walk outside, and hear all kinds of talk, getting told you're a god, a bastard and everything else in between.

The profit & loss signals will always kick you real deal. Always the great reference point and all knowing perspective giver.

Always there like a beacon in the pitch black.  I have found the profit & loss signals to be my greatest friend.  It never bullshits me, freaks out, or runs.  It always gives it to me straight and objectively.

Friends, like fads, come and go, but a 10% profit is and will always be, a 10% profit."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 12, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
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This is mostly about architecture, but the speaker (Prof. Simon Thurley) is much more aware of how economics really work than most people speaking on historical topics.  For instance, in this lecture he mentions that one of the drivers for England mechanizing workplaces in the 19th century was the high wages compared to other places and how the wars the UK fought in the 19th century were only possible because of the Bank of England.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 13, 2015, 03:02:06 AM
Quotea scientific paper isn't going to allow me to walk in another dimension until they build a gate or something... just sayin' that's theory. basically philosophy.. nebulous guesses imo. They THINK this stuff is so, but writing it down isn't proof it's true. It's the same with religion for me.. when God and Satan come to me and say "which way do you think you should go?" I'll start to believe. until then I believe in the here and now, and as for faith I hold that only in myself.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on May 13, 2015, 10:29:57 AM
Quote from: tnu on May 13, 2015, 03:02:06 AM


What ? The comparison doesn't hold. Science is philosophy in the old sense, and the definition still holds value if we are careful to not include some of the modern philosophy in the scientific disciplines, but "nebulous guess" doesn't apply at all. On the other hand, religions are not guesses, because guessing imply some form of valid reasoning, and religions aren't burdened by that 99% of the time. What is the point of the quote exactly ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on May 15, 2015, 02:37:37 AM
The video I was talking about in the hangout yesterday

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And I ask the people of the forum the question of this video should video games based in WW2 or any other war try to be historically accurate
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 06:42:43 AM
I view it the way I view science accuracy in TV and movies: if it gets in the way of the narrative, drama, or character development, then forget it. Otherwise, there's no reason not to, it'll make the product better as a result, and can even serve as a source of inspiration!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on May 15, 2015, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 06:42:43 AM
I view it the way I view science accuracy in TV and movies: if it gets in the way of the narrative, drama, or character development, then forget it. Otherwise, there's no reason not to, it'll make the product better as a result, and can even serve as a source of inspiration!

Following on that logic can lead to really bad excuses, especially since a lot of writers don't even bother to consider the logical implications of the different elements of their story before adding something new. They will literally make everything up. I know a lot of people don't think it's a big deal, and that since it's a so called "creative process", writers can do what the hell they want, but I disagree. I see no logical reason to not do it. In fact, there are no differences between writing a character and describing the physics involved in a scene because in each case, you measure the work with reality. What writers are good at usually is making you forget about what is not the drama, but it is just a way of hiding the dumpster by flashing bright lights at you.

Now, about the video, I mostly agree with the guy, although he is wrong on several counts about tanks in WWII and what form tank games should adopt.
First, some people like this war because it was the only one where tanks where actually the main firepower on land. You could not win a war without them. Before WWII, you could. After WWII, you could. But during that period, you needed big guns mounted on impenetrable steel. That makes this war very unique in the way tanks worked and were developped. There are no comparable historical period in that sense. So, no : No Cybertron tank games. Sorry dude.

Another thing is the tanks paint jobs. There were no standard for paint jobs at the time. The paint job was left to the discretion of the crew. There were suggestions I imagine, because camouflage was pretty much unique to each nations (and still is weirdly enough), but the crew was pretty much trusted to takie care of it. The result was that the emblems varied a lot and the nation was not always signaled in the same way. Not every german tank crew would choose to paint a swastika on their ride. In fact, knowing what I know about the Heer, I would guess that most crew would deliberately avoid this symbol, and I personnaly never saw a historical photograph of a german tank with a swastika on it. I don't know if it is because SS tanks are often left out ... who knows. Still, it's not historically inaccurate to represent a WWII tank with no swastika on the side. The luftwaffe might have had a different global stance about that ...

And this leads me to another point to counterbalance my critique : the comment of Wargaming on their stance on historical accuracy. I think he is correct to call them out on that. No because of the emblems ... Well, I would say that there might be some wiggle room, but anyway there was another item that prove their dishonesty. In the past they implemented a new map called Belogorsk 19. It was called after a goulag built near the town of Belogorsk. Well there were people who felt "offended" by the fact that they would do that. And they back down. They renamed the map Severogorsk. They made a similar statement about historical accuracy after they renamed the map, which sounded quite ridiculous frankly ... So, I guess anyone can imagine what would happen if Auschwitz or Dachau was implemented in any WWII game ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on May 15, 2015, 10:10:46 AM
Following on that logic can lead to really bad excuses, especially since a lot of writers don't even bother to consider the logical implications of the different elements of their story before adding something new.

Well, that's just bad writing, and that'll come through no matter what.

QuoteThey will literally make everything up. I know a lot of people don't think it's a big deal, and that since it's a so called "creative process", writers can do what the hell they want, but I disagree. I see no logical reason to not do it.

I don't think you get what I mean. I don't mean "Do whatever you want and use Real Science elsewhere." I mean, "Look at how the science works, think it through, and only deviate from it when you absolutely have to."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on May 15, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
I don't think you get what I mean. I don't mean "Do whatever you want and use Real Science elsewhere." I mean, "Look at how the science works, think it through, and only deviate from it when you absolutely have to."

I think I get it, but narrative, drama and character development involve enough subjectivity to allow anyone to justify anything with that sentence. "absolutely having to" is so broad of a term ... To be clear, I don't know exactly what you have in mind, I'm arguing about the way you say it. Does that mean that "absolutely having to" for you is related to exceptions by convention, like sci-fi as an example, who can hypothesize about  the fringe of modern science and what's beyond ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on May 15, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
I think I get it, but narrative, drama and character development involve enough subjectivity to allow anyone to justify anything with that sentence. "absolutely having to" is so broad of a term ... To be clear, I don't know exactly what you have in mind, I'm arguing about the way you say it. Does that mean that "absolutely having to" for you is related to exceptions by convention, like sci-fi as an example, who can hypothesize about  the fringe of modern science and what's beyond ?

Let's take something simple: you have a science-fiction show set in the near future where there's a moonbase. People call/Skype/whatever friends on the moon from Earth and vice-versa.

We know from the Apollo footage that, when Mission Control spoke to the astronauts, there was a ~3 second delay before the astronauts responded, then Mission Control responded immediately, then another ~3 second delay for the response. From the point of view of the astronauts, it would have been the opposite: they responded to Mission Control and had to wait ~3 seconds for the reply.

This is due to unavoidable physics. You absolutely cannot get rid of this delay without developing faster-than-light communications, which physics tells us is impossible.

But imagine a TV episode where this happens! All those gaps of ~3 seconds getting in the way of the timing and drama? Would you really blame someone for cutting that out and having responses be instantaneous?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 15, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 06:42:43 AM
I view it the way I view science accuracy in TV and movies: if it gets in the way of the narrative, drama, or character development, then forget it. Otherwise, there's no reason not to, it'll make the product better as a result, and can even serve as a source of inspiration!

you can only take that part so far, before you get this:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 15, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
you can only take that part so far, before you get this:

That has nothing to do with what I posted. That's just lazy writing/not caring, and no amount of conformity to science can fix that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on May 15, 2015, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 02:29:44 PM
Let's take something simple: you have a science-fiction show set in the near future where there's a moonbase. People call/Skype/whatever friends on the moon from Earth and vice-versa.

We know from the Apollo footage that, when Mission Control spoke to the astronauts, there was a ~3 second delay before the astronauts responded, then Mission Control responded immediately, then another ~3 second delay for the response. From the point of view of the astronauts, it would have been the opposite: they responded to Mission Control and had to wait ~3 seconds for the reply.

This is due to unavoidable physics. You absolutely cannot get rid of this delay without developing faster-than-light communications, which physics tells us is impossible.

But imagine a TV episode where this happens! All those gaps of ~3 seconds getting in the way of the timing and drama? Would you really blame someone for cutting that out and having responses be instantaneous?

Well, If I am to be completely honest, not waiting a few seconds would be a shame. There is always room for editing of course but there are several options between the all and the nothing. I would also argue that if the writer includes a base on the moon, then the delay is de facto a part of the drama and the narrative. That's just one of those logical implications that one have to consider and at least describe in some way when building the story. In much the same way car crashes often don't show the head of the driver being destroyed by the truck he rear ended, but still show the remains of the car and the blood, there are solutions to show that the delay exists, as it should, without asking the viewer to wait too long if it's considered undesirable. Some of those solutions are well known : The delay can be cut in half, or a scene at another location can be shown inbetween responses ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 15, 2015, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
That has nothing to do with what I posted. That's just lazy writing/not caring, and no amount of conformity to science can fix that.

Oh, but it does--even though you are right to say that it is essentially lazy writing:

Shepard is supposed to have been killed, and crashed into a planet roughly Earth's size. somehow, his body is intact (no explanation given: sorry, a helmet won't save your brain here), in spite of science telling us that the gravity of the planet guarantees that the body would fall really fast through an atmosphere of Ammonia and Methane--with obvious consequences.

so it's lazy in that no explanation is given, and it disregards science, by ignoring what the planet ought to have done to the corpse, making his body's preservation even more of a WTF, and the lack of explanation even more blatant. it's like gasoline on the fire of shitty writing.

I mean, I agree with you that you have to do this at times: I'm just arguing that it has its limits...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 15, 2015, 05:12:06 PMso it's lazy in that no explanation is given, and it disregards science, by ignoring what the planet ought to have done to the corpse, making his body's preservation even more of a WTF, and the lack of explanation even more blatant. it's like gasoline on the fire of shitty writing.

Also known as "retconning."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 16, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 02:29:44 PM
Let's take something simple: you have a science-fiction show set in the near future where there's a moonbase. People call/Skype/whatever friends on the moon from Earth and vice-versa.

We know from the Apollo footage that, when Mission Control spoke to the astronauts, there was a ~3 second delay before the astronauts responded, then Mission Control responded immediately, then another ~3 second delay for the response. From the point of view of the astronauts, it would have been the opposite: they responded to Mission Control and had to wait ~3 seconds for the reply.

This is due to unavoidable physics. You absolutely cannot get rid of this delay without developing faster-than-light communications, which physics tells us is impossible.

But imagine a TV episode where this happens! All those gaps of ~3 seconds getting in the way of the timing and drama? Would you really blame someone for cutting that out and having responses be instantaneous?

In 2001, there's a scene of a TV interview done with the crew of Bowman and Poole before HAL's bad programming sends him homicidal.  Since the interview isn't being broadcast in realtime, the intro mentions that they've edited out all the pauses for lightspeed.  Like everything else in the film, a superb explanation skillfully placed for not having the communications delays actually show up.  (Yes, the ending as shown doesn't make any sense at all.  It all does make sense if you read the second book.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 16, 2015, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 15, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
Also known as "retconning."

No it isn't.  You can't retcon the events of a story inside the SAME story, and in a true reconning you create a new explanation for the previous events by adding some new, previously unknown information (like when Jean Grey turned out to not to be Phoenix after all, but was actually the template used to create Phoenix and Jean got shunted off to heal up in a cosmic coma).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on May 17, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
(http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/wp-content/uploads/MIC-cartoon-c-c.jpeg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 17, 2015, 08:23:38 PM
http://fee.org/freeman/detail/are-markets-ruining-video-games :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 18, 2015, 06:49:08 AM
 I'm a little confuse don the contredictions between the animated film and Mass Effect 3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on May 18, 2015, 09:17:50 AM
Nailed It. (https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob/status/600066242473504768)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFPdEBoWEAAr-pF.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 18, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
"2.) WHICH DO YOU PREFER, LIFTING FOR HYPERTROPHY OR FOR STRENGTH?

I prefer both, because you need to do both to maximize either. The research on non-linear undulating periodization indicates that in order to maximize long term hypertrophy you need to do some strength training and to maximize long term strength gain you must use some hypertrophy targeted training in order to optimize muscle cross sectional area. So you can’t maximize either outcome without doing at least some of both. I always say that bodybuilders could learn a lot from powerlifters and vice versa. Unfortunately, both groups tend to look down their noses at the other, which is foolish and self centered."--Layne Norton, http://www.shreddedknowledge.com/home/a-talk-with-the-doc-dr-layne-norton/
In those last two sentences, replace "bodybuilders" with "furries" and "powerlifters" with "bronies."  Seriously, the sibling rivaly/beef that powerlifters and bodybuilders often have reminds me of the brony and furry fandoms so much.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on May 20, 2015, 07:53:17 AM
[yt]B8l17B6KZn8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2015, 12:57:20 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 21, 2015, 01:05:05 PM
This is the best of this I've seen on YouTube, one of PDQ Bach's greatest:

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Although for those of you who are wondering if he really composed it to be played on a kazoo, don't be ridiculous. It's supposed to be played on two pieces of uncooked manicotti.

Here's a terrible recording of a performance with Peter Schickele himself:

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The lyrics, if you're having trouble understanding them:

[spoiler]There was a jolly farmer and he worked from morn 'til night
He went to church on Sunday and he knew his wrong from right
He worked so hard he ended up with more than he could eat
He sold the rest so he could buy the shoes upon his feet

A friendly-looking stranger came a-riding up one day
"Hello," he said, "I want you all your crops to throw away"
"You're crazy!" said the farmer, "least, as far as I can tell"
"Don't worry," said the stranger, "I will pay you very well"

The farmer on the dole
The farmer on the dole
It's hi-ho spaghetti-o
The farmer on the dole

"The world is full of hunger," said the farmer, "This is wrong!"
"What happens if I tell you I refuse to go along?"
"Well, you'll be very sorry," said the stranger with a grin
"You can't get by without me and I won't be by again"

"I'll help you if you let me, if you don't I'll let you die"
"I guess I'll have to join you," said the farmer with a sigh
"You've made a wise decision," said the smoothly-talking man
"You never know when the fertilizer's going to hit the fan"

The farmer on the dole
The farmer on the dole
It's hi-ho spaghetti-o
The farmer on the dole

"Please sign upon the dotted line and throw your crops away"
"And if you never plant again, I'll still be glad to pay"
"I'm puzzled," said the farmer, "What the devil's going on?"
"You're getting warmer!" said the stranger as he vanished with a yawn

The moral of the story, please attend to very well
Exactly who the devil is, is often hard to tell
He may be short and ugly, or he may be fair and tall
He may just be the man for whom you voted in the fall

The farmer on the dole
The farmer on the dole
It's hi-ho spaghetti-o
The farmer on the dole[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2015, 10:58:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFk4-LGUMAAXtvu.jpg)
The quote by the Tumblr Founder & CEO, not the whiner below his quote.
Yes, you read that right.  Even the site's creator hates what his site is.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 22, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
"MGTOW is what happens when men stop thinking with their dicks."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on May 22, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 21, 2015, 10:58:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFk4-LGUMAAXtvu.jpg)
The quote by the Tumblr Founder & CEO, not the whiner below his quote.
Yes, you read that right.  Even the site's creator hates what his site is.

You can see that he too is angry by the use of "sexually repressed" as a qualifier ... Which is completely unwarranted in that context. But I would be pissed too if I were him.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 22, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on May 22, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
You can see that he too is angry by the use of "sexually repressed" as a qualifier ... Which is completely unwarranted in that context. But I would be pissed too if I were him.
It makes sense that, if he hates what Tumblr has become, that he also will be angry with it. :-)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 23, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
a lot of hinduism related comments over the last few months: aside from "I am become death, destroyer of Worlds", we now have:

"I am become angst, destroyer of fun" -Tumblr dounder (my condolences to him)

"I am become Anders, destroyer of plots" -Smudboy

"I am become *****, destroyer of trust" -Me, about recent...events...

"I am become hipsters, destroyer of open apartments in Logan" -long story here.

what gives?  :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 23, 2015, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 23, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
a lot of hinduism related comments over the last few months: aside from "I am become death, destroyer of Worlds", we now have:

"I am become angst, destroyer of fun" -Tumblr dounder (my condolences to him)

"I am become Anders, destroyer of plots" -Smudboy

"I am become *****, destroyer of trust" -Me, about recent...events...

"I am become hipsters, destroyer of open apartments in Logan" -long story here.

what gives?  :P
That came from Hinduism? I did not know that. Awesome quotes btw. :-) What happend with you in the second to last one? O.o
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 24, 2015, 04:12:34 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 23, 2015, 10:18:29 PM
That came from Hinduism? I did not know that. Awesome quotes btw. :-) What happend with you in the second to last one? O.o

yep--Oppenheimer was quoting the Bhagavad Gita: Vishnu said it IIRC.

As to your question? I don't want to talk about it. I just find it funny that a lot of things being said lately seem to be based on this one line XD

I will tell you about the last one: finding an apartment in Logan, UT, sucks...too many other Graduate Students moving in--I can't find a place without someone being approved of for moving in while I'm negotiating (or even after application).

never-mind that I don't have tuition support (or funding--aside from the money I've saved)*, and am also having trouble finding a job up there while I am studying: I'm starting to regret accepting that offer to go there--but I'm not getting any younger, and the sooner I can go there the sooner I can forget about the shit from the next to last part, and the sooner I am one step closer to my PhD...

btw, when is the next live chat thing? won't see me on camera, but I'd like to attend just once.

EDIT: I know, shameless, but anyone here want to relieve me of my Chevy Silverado? I tire of paying 500/month for it, and I need to cut on all my expenses.

*I only accepted on the understanding that my adviser, Dr. Lidell, ensure that I have funding for next year, so I can make the switch to a full program...didn't help that it was the only place that offered: all the others basically told me to shag off (though they did admit that it was a mistake...If they think so, why tell me no? meh...)...I do have money saved to pay for one semester though
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 24, 2015, 08:18:37 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 24, 2015, 04:12:34 AMbtw, when is the next live chat thing? won't see me on camera, but I'd like to attend just once.

I was thinking Thursday maybe. We could go over this nonsense: http://johnquiggin.com/2011/04/16/i-pencil-a-product-of-the-mixed-economy/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 24, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 23, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
a lot of hinduism related comments over the last few months: aside from "I am become death, destroyer of Worlds", we now have:

"I am become angst, destroyer of fun" -Tumblr dounder (my condolences to him)

"I am become Anders, destroyer of plots" -Smudboy

"I am become *****, destroyer of trust" -Me, about recent...events...

"I am become hipsters, destroyer of open apartments in Logan" -long story here.

what gives?  :P

That's funny because in a game of Cards Against Humanity, I got "I am become white privilege, destroyer of The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on May 24, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
That's funny because in a game of Cards Against Humanity, I got "I am become white privilege, destroyer of The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."
That's a fav quote right there!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 24, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on May 24, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
That's funny because in a game of Cards Against Humanity, I got "I am become white privilege, destroyer of The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

Oh dear: Hinduism is taking over America!!! :P

Quote from: MrBogosity on May 24, 2015, 08:18:37 AM
I was thinking Thursday maybe. We could go over this nonsense: http://johnquiggin.com/2011/04/16/i-pencil-a-product-of-the-mixed-economy/

:o
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 24, 2015, 08:18:37 AM
I was thinking Thursday maybe. We could go over this nonsense: http://johnquiggin.com/2011/04/16/i-pencil-a-product-of-the-mixed-economy/
The potato is strong with this one!  Right out of the gate we have fail talking about he wants to write another book, a "reply to Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson"  Oh you know this will be BBE tier stuff at least!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 25, 2015, 06:25:42 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
The potato is strong with this one!  Right out of the gate we have fail talking about he wants to write another book, a "reply to Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson"  Oh you know this will be BBE tier stuff at least!

That was three years ago, and as far as I'm aware the book never materialized.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 25, 2015, 06:43:42 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 24, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
The potato is strong with this one!

to quote TJ Laser: "Honh?"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 26, 2015, 11:49:14 AM
[yt]AFnvEEuG_kE[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 28, 2015, 01:55:43 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on May 26, 2015, 11:49:14 AM
[yt]AFnvEEuG_kE[/yt]

a ferret bazooka!

nice!

btw: @ Shane: afraid I can't make it to the meeting: I won't have internet at this time, and won't till a little after 6 PM.  :'(
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on May 31, 2015, 12:37:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/JA4igvA.png)
Badge of Honor.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 01, 2015, 07:47:51 PM
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/10686610_1029344200426582_5491512044936047763_n.jpg?oh=4792d1328437787a0c42984a866d1cb0&oe=55FF9A3B)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 02, 2015, 10:16:00 AM
"I'll give my thoughts on Caitlyn Jenner and transgendered people real quick. This will be the only time I say it because I feel like it doesn't need to constantly be said.
"If this is what it takes for these people to be happy and they aren't hurting anyone then I can only give support for their decision. Robbing people of happiness simply because it is different or because it isn't what personally makes you happy is extremely selfish and outright hateful. Yes, at the end of the day biology is biology and no amount of surgery or emotional appeal can necessarily change that but I don't think that's necessarily justification for denying someone the path to happiness.
"I also don't think that being transgendered is necessarily inherent of any particular code of ethics or behavior as I've seen some people believe. Like everything else you have those who are some of the nicest people in the world and those who are some of the most hateful motherfuckers out there and just like with everything else it's best to focus on people as individuals rather than collectives. Everything else is a distraction from who that person is as an individual and that's the most important thing."
— Dave Turcotte
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 05, 2015, 05:39:22 PM
awesome day! found a copy online of a book about Juha. I've rediscovered some old favorites from him as a result:

WARNING: he's kind of a weirdo...

[spoiler]

QuotePeople once asked Juha what his sign was. He replied "my sign is the billy-goat". Puzzled, people pointed out to him that no such sign existed. At this, Juha said: "well, when I was born it was a capricorn, and now that it's been forty years, I'm pretty sure he's now a billy goat and then some

QuoteOnce, a cow strayed into Juha's property and started eating his crops. Angered, Juha grabbed his stick and went to strike the cow, but it fled on seeing him. A week later, he found the same cow hitched  to a cart with his mater driving it. Seeing this, he grabbed his stick and started to strike the cow. Shocked, the owner asked: "hey! why are you hitting my cow?!". At this, Juha responded "keep out of it idiot! this is just between me and the cow--she knows what she did!

QuoteOnce, a dog shat between two houses in an alleyway. The two house-owners couldn't agree on who was to clean the mess, so they went to the judge, with whom Juha was at. The judge, wanting to mess with Juha, asks him: "so who do you think should pick up the dogshit?". Without hesitation, juha replied: "well, seeing as neither side is at fault, this defaults to the public, which means you oh judge are the one to pick it up!"


Quotehe once had a shirt on a clothesline, and the wind came and swept it away. Seeing this, he said: "we should sacrifice in honor of this!". Puzzled, his wife asked: "why?", so he said: "well imagine if I'd been in this shirt!"
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 06, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
here's today's new item:

"in other news, guy comes into store with a chevy truck owing 470 dollars and months and 12,000 in payoffs--110,000 miles on it, and leaves with a barely used BMW Volkswagon Jetta worth 15,000 dollars, owing just ~10,000 of that, and paying 180 a month..."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 12, 2015, 04:28:18 AM
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This should be in every classroom in America today--the importance of low taxes and pro-private ownership is made abundantly clear.

the only fail is that they don't reach quite the right conclusions.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on June 13, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
"Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 13, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on June 13, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
"Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I don't agree with that quote. It all depends on the religious claims and the overall theology.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 14, 2015, 08:20:39 AM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 13, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
I don't agree with that quote. It all depends on the religious claims and the overall theology.

As long as he's talking about personal beliefs, I agree. It's organized religion where you start to get major problems.
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Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 14, 2015, 08:20:39 AM
As long as he's talking about personal beliefs, I agree. It's organized religion where you start to get major problems.

I don't get this. Personal beliefs can possibly conflict with science. There is nothing in the concept of personal belief that could prevent that and, as we know, religions can take many forms, and their claims are diverse and of varied importances to the core theology. Like anything in life, it's about being able to back it up if necessary. To me, this quote is over simplifying the issue so much that it is of no significance. Particularly the first part : If you don't have a proper approach of interpretation, one that you can justify (Which is an important pillar of the scientific method), then you are merely making shit up, and the concept of personal preferences, which is in turn relevant when it comes to values, have nothing to do with that. To me it looks like Luther King Jr is guilty of post hoc rationalization, via the over simplification.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 14, 2015, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
I don't get this. Personal beliefs can possibly conflict with science.

Nothing about that is particular to religion, though. Look at anti-vaccers.

QuoteLike anything in life, it's about being able to back it up if necessary.

By "personal," I mean things you don't HAVE to back up, like how you prefer to live your life. I don't have to back up the fact that I like classical music better than rap, for example. Someone wouldn't have to back up their vegan diet unless they're also trying to convince others to become vegans.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 05:45:35 PM
Then I guess it means I wouldn't have used the term personal beliefs here because the quote uses the word religion and there is no context to tell us that what he meant was something other than the usual definition of religion. Either the quote does not accurately represent Luther king's belief and needs clarification, or Luther king's belief that religion and science cannot be rivals is wrong. In any case, I would think that quotes are supposed to be self explanatory and on its own, this one sounds wrong.

Indeed, the fact that personal beliefs can always possibly conflict with science is not particular to religion, which is one of the reasons why I think we can take this quote at face value. Another word could have been used instead of religion if the intent was the same as yours but Luther king's chose the general concept of religion. Doesn't it suggest the intent of not talking about all personal beliefs but rather to focus on a more specific instance ?

I would also add that if the purpose was to talk about all personal beliefs, he wouldn't have said that, because it's obvious to anyone, and nobody would quote him for that reason (At least, it would be very unlikely).

To me the quote is all wrong. If Luther King's intention was to suggest what you are suggesting, I am then on board with you too, obviously. But nothing really shows that in the choices he made when formulating the idea
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 14, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 05:45:35 PMTo me the quote is all wrong. If Luther King's intention was to suggest what you are suggesting, I am then on board with you too, obviously. But nothing really shows that in the choices he made when formulating the idea

Wouldn't his separation of science as dealing with facts and religion as dealing with values do that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 14, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
Wouldn't his separation of science as dealing with facts and religion as dealing with values do that?

Well ... I don't know. The thing is, if I was so inclined I would criticize the whole sentence.

Values are too vague of a concept to even use it in this discussion in my opinion ... I mean, basically, a value is any idea that is of great importance right ? You never learn anything useful about those ideas when they are described as "values". You only learn something useful about the person who hold them. The word "values" has  essentially the same usefulness that the superlative degree has. If someone describes a movie to you by saying that's it's "awesome", you didn't learn anything about the movie, you only learnt that this person really liked it.

Science has ideas of great importance as a foundation. Those ideas require justification and nobody would accept them at face value. It would be unthinkable that they would be personal beliefs. But if I'm not mistaken, those ideas fit the description of values. Now, I know what a devil's advocate would say here, because the scientific method lies on basic assumptions about the universe, I am in fact talking about values that are about values, which is to say that if I value the scientific method, I will of course subject other values to that foundational value ... But, you get the idea ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 15, 2015, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 14, 2015, 10:29:33 PMValues are too vague of a concept to even use it in this discussion in my opinion ... I mean, basically, a value is any idea that is of great importance right ? You never learn anything useful about those ideas when they are described as "values". You only learn something useful about the person who hold them. The word "values" has  essentially the same usefulness that the superlative degree has. If someone describes a movie to you by saying that's it's "awesome", you didn't learn anything about the movie, you only learnt that this person really liked it.

You learned something about the PERSON, that enables you to better predict his behavior (in this case, whether or not he'll like this next movie).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 15, 2015, 09:45:41 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 15, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 15, 2015, 08:24:24 AM
You learned something about the PERSON, that enables you to better predict his behavior (in this case, whether or not he'll like this next movie).

Yes, but my point is, going back to what I was saying originally, it doesn't tell you a lot about the actual claim. You don't know if it's just that, a claim about that person personal taste, or something more complicated that relies on a specific argument that requires justification. When the quote talks about science dealing with facts and religion dealing with values, we have the same problem : each value could be any claim of any form and we don't know a priori if it only relates to personal beliefs as you put it, or something else. In other words, no, I don't think it explains anything about Luther king's intentions.
The quote sounds wrong because there's nothing in religion that makes it inherently not rival with science. It all depends on the specific claim. The generalizations he made in this case are inappropriate. The investigation-interpretation bit is wrong because interpreting data is a necessary tool for any intellectual human endeavour, science included, and every interpretation needs to be justified frankly. The facts-values bit is wrong because values can rely on facts and those values require justification because you can have your facts wrong (anecdotal evidence, cherry picking, whatever).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 15, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
Quote from: AnCap Dave on June 15, 2015, 09:45:41 AM
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She must have missed the bit about the buildings ...
Although, if I were to tweak her argument, I could say the same thing because bethesda games ar all the same really, with a bonus paint job (and not a very good one usually). This kind of games require a lot more work on AIs and on a universal physics engine to create a really life like virtual environnement that does not need to rely only on triggering scripts. And it's not as if the technology in those area wasn't already better than what they offer ... So in the end, in Bethesda games you can only kill shit and steal shit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 15, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 15, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
She must have missed the bit about the buildings ...
Although, if I were to tweak her argument, I could say the same thing because bethesda games ar all the same really, with a bonus paint job (and not a very good one usually). This kind of games require a lot more work on AIs and on a universal physics engine to create a really life like virtual environnement that does not need to rely only on triggering scripts. And it's not as if the technology in those area wasn't already better than what they offer ... So in the end, in Bethesda games you can only kill shit and steal shit.

Are there any games using general inverse kinematics in their animation systems?  I've looked around a bit, but haven't found anything that makes good use of it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 15, 2015, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 15, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Are there any games using general inverse kinematics in their animation systems?  I've looked around a bit, but haven't found anything that makes good use of it.

Rome total war and Medieval II total war sort of use it, but it's very limited (and kind of buggy).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 16, 2015, 05:46:12 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on June 15, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Are there any games using general inverse kinematics in their animation systems?  I've looked around a bit, but haven't found anything that makes good use of it.

I'm not following ... I don't know how complex animation systems are but what about them ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 16, 2015, 08:14:24 AM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on June 16, 2015, 05:46:12 AM
I'm not following ... I don't know how complex animation systems are but what about them ?

The idea in inverse kinematics is that physics modeled in the game directly affects how animations behave.  A simple example would be a character walking up a flight of stairs.  With inverse kinematics, the character's feet actually rest on the steps, while without it, they may not.  (If you've played some of the older Splinter Cell games, for instance, the stairs in those games look like stairs, but function like ramps in terms of where Sam puts his feet when he uses them, which is quite distracting.)  Another example is swinging weapons.  With inverse kinematics, weapons move according to the mass and balance of the individual weapon essentially for free in terms of modeling (you just define the mass distribution of the weapon and the game engine takes care of the rest).  Without inverse kinematics, you have to explicitly model the behavior of each weapon (if you've even got the ability to do that).

The really big problem with inverse kinematics is it takes a lot of computation to do, but that isn't nearly the issue it used to be since you can easily get a physics coprocessor now.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 16, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
I find it fantastic that they aren't using IK in games since it's been in 3D modelling software for something like 20 years now.

Before that, you had to use a hierarchical model. So, you move your shoulder, and your arm moves with it, and your hand moves with the arm, and your fingers move with the hand. You could do that. What you COULDN'T do is something like, put a heavy bowling ball on the figure's hand and have it weigh the hand down--the hand would move down but not move the arm with it, because the hierarchy didn't work that way. The arm would move the hand, but the hand wouldn't move the arm.

IK itself doesn't really add much more in terms of computation. It must be something about the physics engines.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 16, 2015, 01:55:09 PM
I have a suspicion that IK isn't in game engines mostly because of inertia.  If you look at the taxonomy of game engines, most of them have at least 20 years of history to them and haven't had it ever, while the game developers have attained great skill in producing the pre-rendered animations you need to do to use without it.

Now, SMALL shops could really benefit from not having to produce those pre-rendered animations since they take a lot of time and skill.  It would also make it easier to have more playable characters in games with elaborate character animations like in the Assassin's Creed games (where they've run out of time and money without all the playable characters they would have liked).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on June 17, 2015, 01:41:18 AM
Even if computation was this big of a problem, it wouldn't be that relevant I think because we are at a time where we can afford to over use the same graphics engine for as long as we need, because they are good enough to serve as interface for realistic physics, and have been for a long time. The complexity of the models and the fidelity of the texture work is at that stage. In my ideal world, we would already be going toward more expensive CPUs and less expensive GPUs because of the use of "old" graphics engine, favoring multi CPU over multi GPU (Yeah you can buy a lot of cores, but what about a lot of CPUs with a lot of cores ?^^) for huge and very detailed drawing distance and for complex interactions between huge numbers of seemingly free agents in addition to advanced physics.

If there is too much inertia in the video game development industry to allow for that evolution at the moment, it might be overshadowed by the inertia in consumers habits, because I don't hear a lot of them asking for that kind of depth in games ...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2015, 07:00:36 PM
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."--The signature of in10city, from the bodybuilding.com forums.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 30, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 30, 2015, 11:52:04 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on July 06, 2015, 10:51:44 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on July 07, 2015, 02:43:58 AM
Even the Department of Defense the Military recognizes the value of strong encryption:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150703/14441931535/dept-defense-defends-strong-encryption-while-impetuous-child-nsa-continues-to-lament-coming-darkness.shtml
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 07, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 07, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on July 07, 2015, 02:43:58 AM
Even the Department of Defense the Military recognizes the value of strong encryption:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150703/14441931535/dept-defense-defends-strong-encryption-while-impetuous-child-nsa-continues-to-lament-coming-darkness.shtml

It's so irritating that the NSA is no longer willing to look at the consequences of preventing security.  They've done some pretty good work in the past (the SE part of SELinux originally came out of the NSA, for example), but now they just don't want to know.  They're busily setting themselves up for exactly the same fiasco the Stazi had of gathering too much intel to analyze, leading to anything they do find that they actually care about being blind chance.  No doubt they think that the kind of data mining that private industry routinely does with Big Data will solve the problem, but there's no real chance of that.  Data mining is pretty dependent on knowing what the info you want looks like to begin with.  You can pull out any sort of data association you want, but it can't tell you anything useful unless you picked it for a meaningful reason.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on July 10, 2015, 09:25:27 AM
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 14, 2015, 08:55:43 AM
Smackdown!!!

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on July 14, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 14, 2015, 08:55:43 AM
Smackdown!!!

Ah ah, that was good.

Did the decision really describe the right to marry as a fundamental right though ? What does that mean ? In my understanding, any fundamental right is a right that authorities cannot infringe, but that's not what the decision on gay marriage entails. The implication here are that the civil union validated by the governement is now opened to gays. Saying that marriage is a fundamental right would mean that anyone can make a ceremony out of the union of two people, which was already possible for gays in reality. What they gained is the possibility to benefit from special advantages from the governement that were refused to them before.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 14, 2015, 08:55:43 AM
Smackdown!!!

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*Standing ovation!* :D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on July 15, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 14, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
*Standing ovation!* :D

Holy crap it's Bill Whittle's liberal counterpart!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 20, 2015, 08:08:35 PM
"Asking libertarians whether we're closer to liberals or conservatives is like asking us whether we're closer to Sirius A or Sirius B!"--Me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 21, 2015, 02:57:01 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-reasons-commercials-are-sexist-against-men/ (all save for number one on the list)
http://www.cracked.com/article_19758_the-5-most-insulting-ways-products-are-advertised-to-men.html
Remember way back when Cracked did actual research and found data that went against the zeitgeist?  Me, Shane & Pepperidge Farm remember...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 21, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
A bit of context for this next one.  It was originally inspired by a captioned picture Shane posted on his facebook, that I can't find anymore.  I posted it in a secret group on Facebook I used to be in, but, upon finding out there are some conspiratards in it (bare in mind this is a group of only 14 people including myself) figured they weren't worth my time, especially since I had a falling out with another member (Fennec) whom I had to block:

"Dear statists, theists/religious zealots (of all sorts, not just Christians & Muslims), 9/11 truthers, moon hoaxers, anti-vaxxers/anti-GMO/pro-organic nutbars, The Venus Project nutters, Law of Attraction nutbars, SJWs/feminists, and other bogosity peddlers,

Us calling you out on your bullshit and demanding evidence for your claims does NOT make you victims, it makes you accountable.  Grow the fuck up!

Sincerely,

Those of us who are using our brains.

PS:  If you could forward this to any such woo groups I forgot about, that would be great."
Title: Re: Fav Quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 23, 2015, 07:18:57 PM
I just discovered how popular come of my views on many things are in Egypt. Welcome to Bassem Youseff:

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this guy took on the Muslim Brotherhood, Mubarak, and even as-sissi, though due to rising violence, he's had to cancel his show :(

here's an episode:

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EDIT: well, crap: Hey Shane, may you move this to favorite quotes? thanks.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 24, 2015, 11:43:49 AM
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."―Thomas Sowell
Shared with me on Facebook by me & Shane Killian's mutual friend, Ryan Swan. :) Very cool bloke. n.n
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 24, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
As much as I would hate to put PZ Myers on here, as the old saying goes, even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day, and this broken clock has an excellent response (http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/07/20/death-of-a-quack/) towards the "Big Pharma" talking point:

QuoteI've been accused, occasionally, of being a pharma shill. Pharmaceutical companies make obscene profits! They're paying off people to hide the dangers of their drugs! And there is a tiny grain of truth: those companies do reap great profits. Be the first to patent a Viagra or Zoloft, and the money will come rolling in.

But there's so much investment required! You need to test thousands of drugs to find one that does anything; then there's all the animal testing, the clinical trials, the regulatory oversight, the lawsuits that follow from side-effects (and if the drug is actually potent, there will be side-effects). No, that's not for me. If I wanted to be really rich, and had no conscience at all, I'd go straight to Big Alt Med.

No testing! Cheap products! In the case of homeopathy, you can market tiny bottles of water! Supplements are almost entirely unregulated, nobody cares if you're selling pills stuffed with sawdust. It's miraculous sums of money for entirely non-miraculous garbage, plus a lot of promises
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 25, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 24, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
As much as I would hate to put PZ Myers on here, as the old saying goes, even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day, and this broken clock has an excellent response (http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/07/20/death-of-a-quack/) towards the "Big Pharma" talking point:
To be fair, I groan at his, "supplements are unregulated!" as if a lack of government regulation = bad nonsense...but yeah, basically it's just them giving the alt med fuckwads a free pass as they've ALWAYS done.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 27, 2015, 01:03:23 AM
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This is fucking gold!

so here's what happened:

Ethiopia's planning on building a damn called "the revival dam", along the Blue Nile. Problem is that it will end all inundation along the main Nile course, which would cripple Egypt's ability to generate power and provide drinking water to the people (and the Nile's already being taxed heavily for the two). The irrigation minister was "surprised" about this (he's a bit of a captain oblivious), but assures the people that it won't be the case (somehow...someway).

So Morsi, feeling a bit concerned, he decides to hold a National Meeting. Lulz ensue @ 14:17, as the lady coordinating this forgot to tell them that this was being broadcast live. (the win comes from Bassem Youssef--he'll be in red; Morsi will be Green: they're the only two sole voices of reason along with "Khalid"...let Morsi being a voice of reason sink in):
[spoiler]
"in spite of this, the President has decided to invite people to hold a national meeting" *applause*...So as to confront the threat of this dam...You guys know what happened in the dialogue, right? (at this point, the picture to his right of the meeting, reading "searching for a scandal")
You guys know the conversation? the whole world should know what happened during...Let's take a second look at this meeting: I mean, while the Prime Minister of Ethiopia said to "worry not, you won't ever lose a single cup of water", however the President hosted this meeting...so the President isn't buying that...The President doesn't believe anything they say

here it cuts to the meeting:

What he has announced to me--this prime minister of Ethiopia--that Egypt could not be harmed even by a cup of water.

And those ten, swear to me once again over the water!

So there's no problem at all? So while you're putting that way, why did you hold the conference? And why are your hands full with Ethiopia, the dinner's *bleep*, why? I don't get it. "They promised us, but we'll have a meeting just in case!"

What matters is that his meeting has gathered many personalities from the Political scene: Hamzawi, and his cuteness...Abu Ela, whose looking for person to "poke him" (i.e. tickle him), and Rami Lakkah and his lovely duckface...by the way that's what we discovered to be Rami Lakkah's favorite camera pose...

And from the first minute of the meeting, the seriousness of the President became apparent, and his comprehension of the gravity of the situation.

cuts back to the meeting:

We have the ability to suck the shock....

ABSORB!!!ABSORB!!!! HE MEANT ABSORB!!! ABSORB, WHAT IS IT?! ABSORB!!! Absorb, I mean we take a drink--never-mind take, just never-mind....ABSORB!!!

By the way, we want to absorb...I would have loved to stop it at this word so that we could absorb the shock...We are in need of this capability more than anyone else...What matters is that the meeting kicked off with a display of national strength of concern for the country's well-being...How much they see that we are in error over the rights of the Nile

cuts back to  the meeting:

Rami Lakkah: "your honor, we do not respect our Nile...we are wasteful with our Nile, we piss into our Nile"

And we tit into our Nile, and we go bobbing up and down!! bobbing up and down!!

Look, the Nile's the most important part of our country, and yet we can dick about with it at all....What matters is that those who attended the meeting had some grand ideas about the solution to the problem...Intelligent ideas...ideas outside the box

*cuts back to the meeting*

an idiot (Muhammad Bakra), Morsi really looking contemptuous: "In Ethiopia we need to know the impact of our Football team's there, the champions in Africa for years, for they have a mighty impact!"

...this isn't outside the box, this is totally out of the 6-yard line...You didn't even notice how Morsi was staring at you? As the President of his party, why did you bring in Muhammad Bakra?

well let's try again: does anyone had a better idea which can help us? We're not particularly concerned with African teams, so that's over with....Anyone else whom we can send?

MH: I was once in a Sudanese village, on the occasion that they love us there and we'd send them a *no idea--some weird Egyptian word*...I was once in a Sudanese Village in the heart of Sudan...so a small little kid grabs hold of me and asks "you know Adel Imam?" So you see the attachment to Egypt? So I said "No, unfortunately I don't know Adel Imam, but I know Nur Ash-Sharif", so he replied "give my greetings to him".

And did you give him the kid's greetings? That's it! we've solved the problem! We send them Nur Ash-Sharif! We unfortunately can't send them Adel Siyam...

But that's in Sudan, and fun fact: People in Ethiopia don't speak Arabic--you know, the ones actually building the dam? So they don't know Adel Imam, nor Nur Ash-Sharif...they probably know Adel Siyam, but the rest of course not!

Please guys give us an artistic, technical solution, that helps us with this problem...let's hear from the genius, innovative politician Magdi Hussein:

MH (brace yourselves): "we'll just electrically tie them with us, and forget about the high dam (Lake Nasser)just electrically tie us with them and forget the high damn

So never mind the high damn at all! We'll dismantle it and sell it for scrap! We'll make confetti out of it!

MAN WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD IN THERE WHAT??!!!

So he's saying there's no problem--what, are you the student of the minister of irrigation? so you're at a meeting over the fact that the Spigot's now over there, and you propose to give them both the light switch and spigot? WHAT EMPTY-HEADEDNESS IS THIS?!!

Can anyone propose something a bit realistic?

Bearded dumb-ass with Birthmark: In the event of the failure of all these options, we will have no choice save using the last of our cards, and sending the secret service in to demolish any dam that may be built there...

And why the secret service? And why a military operation? We'll just rush into them in a minibus, with two containers of butane--if we could find them--and we can blow the dam from its base and leave it a heap of charcoal....

YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THIS ON THE AIR???!!!!!

You guys know how this is going to end, right? OK, so can someone propose something rational, exempt from such folly?

another idiot: there's possible talk of a military operation...of course, such an operation would be difficult to achieve

Well you're most generous, that is exactly right, Someone is being logical, not to propose a military solution on the air you clever fellas...So what axes can we tackle this problem from?

we don't have any axis save through Eritrea, Somalia, Djibouti, and all this is the secret service business--they'll accomplish this from within...they'll do it together

look, so we'll incite Eritrea on Djibouti, Djibouti will then attack Ethiopia, then Ethiopia will fuck with the two and we watch them eat into each other...and so we sit here dancing gleefully over this sight! oh yeah...oh yeah....

ARE YOU ALL INSANE!!!! THIS IS ALL ON THE AIR--ARE YOU CRAZY??!!!!

It occurs to me that every secret service man and spy is watching this with consternation...but in spite of this mess-up, There's still a spy who has retained their secret identity *here it plays a trailer about this fictitious female spy*

BY talking to the female spy: oh....a while ago you were being tortured over there, and now you're back with the revival damn under you arm?

What I want to know is, if we have spies and agents over there, how are they doing now?! Were they discovered, or do they still have their secret identity? To know more about this, we have over Satellite dishes one of our agents, Khalid (Khalid is on a pillory being whipped by a masked man)

Khalid (introduced as "our spy from Adis Ababa"): hi Bassem!

tell us of the role of the National Meeting in the discovery of our agents in Ethiopia.

Khalid: Our secret was out man! it completely exposed us completely! we're just *bleeped out*! And afterwords bassem...afterwords bassem...excuse me for just a second *turns to the Ethiopian*: Basha! Basha! Basha! how you doing? what's your good name? John? OK John, where you from? Addis Ababa? cleverest of guys really! If you'll excuse me I have a short interview, so can be stop the torture real quick? just a five minute break? we'll compensate for them, seriously! aren't we here together? Oh, you'll be off your shift? don't worry about it, I'll vouch for you. dealy deal? *kiss* see ya king! *turns back to Bassem* OK, I'm with you know Bassem: what were we saying?

the role of the national meeting in exposing your secret cover Khalid..

Khalid: honestly they woke every sleeper sell! There's no secret identity to cover us, not even a cover story!

Can you not escape Khalid?

Khalid: do you not see me restrained Bassem? escape how?

And the other agents Khalid? are they totally exposed? is there no hope?

Khalid: honestly, our last and only hope is Ayman Mahmoud, residing in Adis Ababa on Mumbasa street, over the Egypt and Somalia place...he's driving a red car, the only one of its sort in Adis Ababa...he even has a sticker on it called "prisoner of sorrow""

So I want to know about our secret agent, this Ayman Mahmoud, residing in Adis Ababa on Mumbasa street, over the Egypt and Somalia place...he's driving a red car customized by himself

Khalid: Ah, Ah, yes, Ayman our secret agent! See, he was the only one to escape the Ethiopian government, he is our last and only hope! I cannot tel you how much we really depend on him!

Since you're with us on the air broadcast live around the world, are there any last words you have to say to the Egyptian people?

Khalid: wait one second...We're on the air? *awkward and painful expression on his face*

Yes, we're on the air live, the whole world is listening to you.

Khalid: so this is being broadcast?!

yes

Khalid (turns towards John): come finish your beating John! come finish the beating! come, come you son of a bitch! I'll be out to be torture outside in the dirt!

Give a hand to our broken khalid....God help you Khalid, and we wish to apologize to Ayman Mahmoud residing on Mombasa Street in Adis Ababa...that's if he's still alive, it's clear we neglected to timely inform him that this was all on the air.

Back to the meeting: since we're live on the air, can someone inform us of the exact situation in Ethiopia?

an idiot: Ethiopia's composed of multiple tribes, and as you know with this African nations, everyone just functions as they are and each goes their own way...

And it all takes care of itself...Man, we're asking about the situation in Ethiopia, not for a review of the College*..I mean, you can't just say that we can simply bribe their people on the air...I mean, no one can possibly say this knowing they're in front of a camera (*of Arab States)

*black screen: middle says "a guy who knows he's being filmed"*

the same idiot, this time on his talk show: I mean today if we give the Ethipian president 100 pounds Egyptian, or 100 dinars, the case is closed! issue resolved! those people are waking up from half the day to rule the country (i.e. overworked and underpaid)

And this is the last cup of water coming from there....But we've yet to hear from the veteran politician on this matter, and specifically what opinions and solutions they might have? Especially one who has gone as a friend?

idiot who went to Ethiopia: we need to establish direct contacts and to interfere internally--and I'm saying this against other people's opinion--but there must be internal interference! There must be an effect on the decision--on the Ethiopians, for their society is decayed to the most extreme level: we saw this in our visits, and it was truly tragic...

yeah, their national position is tragic, and how about you guys exactly???

you're sitting there before a president whose said we don't meddle in others affairs and they don't meddle in ours, and you're saying that? Shame on you man! OK Dr. Ayman Nur, do you have any other classified ideas you wish to provide us with?

Well, your honor, we can leak intelligence information and data to trick them into thinking we're buying more airplanes to add to our air-power?


And what next???.........

what do you also want to leak, since you are on the air? can we hear more hoax-talk from you? that we have children walking around with buildings in their pockets??? that we've reversed the course of the Nile and shut it from our end? That the Brotherhood are opening in Ethiopia? You know, nothing secret--we'll just lay it all on the ground...

And after this fuckup, what's next is completely different, from the Preative Political Arab mind of Magdi Hussein...


Since this meeting's classified, we must swear that we must never let any of this leak out to the media--that would be for the best, save as a redacted form by our lady Bakinam

hehe, the sister Bakinam! regarding Ms. Bakinam, remain seated: you'll soon know that Bakinam's pinned you to the wall...

Even if we...OK, what do you say?

This whole thing is being broadcast live...

did he just say this whole thing was being broadcast live?*everyone laughs*

So now I don't have a secret plan or anything...


B Y imitating these dipshits: Did you check this out!!!????! my god you guys are being filmed? *imitates Lakkah's "duckface"*

And the funniest part was that Ayman Nur said no one had told him anything....and he forgot what he said...

And Morsi this whole time is just sitting there already knowing this, and he's just leaving them to praddle on....such beauty!"do we strike Ethipia????" "Operations, secret service, sure..."

As to Bakinam ash-sharqawi, she apologized on her facebook, that she had forgotten to inform the people that this was being broadcast live

"sorry...we forgot to tell you...we were supposed to make this a surprise"

This meeting set the lowest bar for meetings: no one had anything intelligent to say at all, and that the news broadcast this to show us this is what is at the fore-front of the political scene...So if you want to threaten Ethiopia, threaten it! This is much said, so please clap!

So if you want to threaten Ethiopia, threaten it! a country can if it can back it up! but with this farce we've just seen, you just see people without leadeship, without ideas, just sitting on a bench...

And as to Bakinam, the woman who pinned us, and embarrassed us internationally, I want to know what's going on with the presidential staff, why they'd do that....

*he then goes on wondering if she and her crew have super-powers and stuff, then an "interview" with an "intern" under bakinam...
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 27, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
What if everything politicians did on the job was subject to being live-streamed, completely at random, with no way to predict or tell whether or not it was happening at the time? Might be interesting...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 27, 2015, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 27, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
What if everything politicians did on the job was subject to being live-streamed, completely at random, with no way to predict or tell whether or not it was happening at the time? Might be interesting...

As you can tell, the Egyptians are way ahead of you!  :P

in the meantime, I didn't even finish translating the rest: I'll be adding it soon.

EDIT: done! I'll be honest, thatI'm pretty sure my translation isn't perfect: come words were kind of jumbled, other times I just didn't recognize the term (bear in mind I speak a different dialect of Arabic--it'd be like an American trying to figure out British slang some times: further, I've clearly been gone long enough from home to miss the apparent influx of English loanwords to Egyptian Arabic).

seriously though, this should be on the next podcast or meet-up or something XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 30, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
"'Social Justice' is the ideological embodiment of First World Problems."--Me, inspired by a quote from Morrakiu.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 31, 2015, 03:07:19 PM
"Everyone's got a gris-gris, but some a lot more than others."--Me, inspired by Penn & Teller
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 05, 2015, 06:13:16 PM
"They never stop.  They will never have enough power.  If they sealed you in concrete so you couldn't move at all, they would resent your dying heartbeats for being outside their control."--Hawkeye to me, in AIM a few weeks ago. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 08, 2015, 08:55:22 PM
"You are confusing what the study found and what the authors concluded. I'm in the business of facts, not opinions."--Menno Henselmans in the comments of this post of his:  https://www.facebook.com/BayesianBodybuilding/posts/920076804716822
Emphasis added by me.  So nabbing that for myself.  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 09, 2015, 09:48:44 AM
"Anyone can build a strong, muscular body...The weight training world is full of success stories, and you can be another one. I don't care how skinny, fat or how old you are - I've seen them all fail and I've seen them all succeed. Patience, dedication and perseverance were at the root of all those successes and missing in all the failures."--Casey Butt, http://www.weightrainer.net/training/beginners.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 09, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Q:  What do you call a successful dieter?

A:  A bodybuilder.

--Me, inspired by Menno Henselmans.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: tnu on August 09, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
QuoteI sexually identify as a road and I demand that you respect my right to be funded by taxation.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 12, 2015, 02:53:00 PM
http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6997442/new-york-city-expectations-vs-reality?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=pod&utm_content=taboola-pod-on-ch-article&utm_campaign=recommendationsutm_source=taboola&utm_medium=pod&utm_content=taboola-pod-in-1x2&utm_campaign=recommendations
ALL MY YES!  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2015, 12:21:01 AM
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."—Eleanor Roosevelt
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2015, 01:51:16 PM
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11824950_10153378064291117_5538845480520526500_n.jpg?oh=bc0d3036dbd8ee0b7e9564198be82597&oe=56378E33)

Posted for fucking truth!  C'mon people! You can't use the money you'd save on a wasted gym membership on a smartphone with GPS so it can track your distance walked/ran/hiked/etc, Calories burned, etc?  Hell, mine came with an app that does that for free!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/what-happens-to-your-body-an-hour-after-drinking-kale-juice/story-fneuz92c-1227480836738
So awesome. X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on August 20, 2015, 05:00:10 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on August 13, 2015, 01:51:16 PM
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11824950_10153378064291117_5538845480520526500_n.jpg?oh=bc0d3036dbd8ee0b7e9564198be82597&oe=56378E33)

Posted for fucking truth!  C'mon people! You can't use the money you'd save on a wasted gym membership on a smartphone with GPS so it can track your distance walked/ran/hiked/etc, Calories burned, etc?  Hell, mine came with an app that does that for free!

OK, so some people like walking in the air conditioned gym, instead of the random outside, why is that a problem?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 08:40:34 AM
Quote from: dallen68 on August 20, 2015, 05:00:10 AM
OK, so some people like walking in the air conditioned gym, instead of the random outside, why is that a problem?

MOST people who buy gym memberships never use them, or use them very little.  Given that all you need to do to walk is to go outside and do it, getting a gym membership you probably won't use to access a treadmill to walk on seems rather foolish.

Further, if the place is half a mile or so from your home and you jog there and back, you've just DONE your basic cardio without ever going inside.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 09:11:18 AM
What if it's raining? Or what if you're like me and have a bad knee and need an ellipsoid machine for cardio?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 09:47:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 09:11:18 AM
What if it's raining? Or what if you're like me and have a bad knee and need an ellipsoid machine for cardio?

Rain rarely lasts long enough at a high enough intensity to be a serious impediment to a walk outside, between rain coats and umbrellas.  (Rain is more of a problem for joggers, as it's harder to jog while wearing a raincoat or carrying an umbrella.)  High winds, with or without rain, are more likely to be a problem for a walker, especially if it's cold.

As the specific example was using a treadmill, your second objection doesn't apply.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 09:47:18 AM
Rain rarely lasts long enough at a high enough intensity to be a serious impediment to a walk outside,

Come to the Carolinas sometime!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 11:31:29 AM
Come to the Carolinas sometime!

I'd like to, actually.  The winter weather is a hell of a lot nicer than it is in the Ottawa Valley.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 01:21:44 PM
I'd like to, actually.  The winter weather is a hell of a lot nicer than it is in the Ottawa Valley.

Yeah, but spring, late summer, and fall, it gets very schizophrenic. You have more polar weather; we have bi-polar weather.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 03:34:58 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 01:34:38 PM
Yeah, but spring, late summer, and fall, it gets very schizophrenic. You have more polar weather; we have bi-polar weather.

Oh, we have that as well as the deep-freeze winters.  For instance, the temperature is supposed to go from about 30C to about 16C in the next six hours as the storm front goes through.  (We've been waiting for it for days, since this unseasonable late-summer head started up.  This is temperatures normal for July here, not August.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 04:29:10 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 03:34:58 PM
Oh, we have that as well as the deep-freeze winters.  For instance, the temperature is supposed to go from about 30C to about 16C in the next six hours as the storm front goes through.  (We've been waiting for it for days, since this unseasonable late-summer head started up.  This is temperatures normal for July here, not August.)

One April we had 6 inches of snow, and the next day it was 80F. People were going around in shorts and t-shirts with snow covering everything!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 20, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 04:29:10 PM
One April we had 6 inches of snow, and the next day it was 80F. People were going around in shorts and t-shirts with snow covering everything!

what madness is this?!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 20, 2015, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 09:11:18 AM
What if it's raining? Or what if you're like me and have a bad knee and need an ellipsoid machine for cardio?
Use an umbrella or get your shower in with your cardio. ;)  In all seriousness, I don't think Menno was talking about folks like you.  I know I wasn't.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 20, 2015, 04:29:10 PM
One April we had 6 inches of snow, and the next day it was 80F. People were going around in shorts and t-shirts with snow covering everything!

Not even this far north, where I grew up,one Christmas day we had 30 cm (12 inches) of snow, and the next day it was 30C.  The melt was impressive.

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 20, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
what madness is this?!

The kind of weather we get here in the ill-named 'Temperate Zone'.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on August 21, 2015, 06:17:22 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 20, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
what madness is this?!

North Carolina, baby!

Quote from: evensgrey on August 20, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
The kind of weather we get here in the ill-named 'Temperate Zone'.

The "distemperate zone."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 22, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 21, 2015, 06:17:22 AM
North Carolina, baby!

The "distemperate zone."

yeah, I've either lived in the Near East (with its weather), Texas (subtropical), and Colorado (Alpine). the latter is as closest as I get, but the temperatures are related to day and night, and vary more between the two than between days XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 23, 2015, 05:16:15 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 22, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
yeah, I've either lived in the Near East (with its weather), Texas (subtropical), and Colorado (Alpine). the latter is as closest as I get, but the temperatures are related to day and night, and vary more between the two than between days XD

I seem to recall that Alpine should have Temperate-style summer and winter cycling, since I've seen it further south than that.  (I happened to be visiting Flagstaff, AZ one March and got caught by a blizzard, delaying my departure by a day.  It was to be by road, so all would have been fine once I got out of the high country and down onto the desert floor, but getting down would have been trickier than I needed to deal with.  The weird part is you don't even NOTICE that you're climbing up the better part of a mile to get in there.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 28, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
QuoteI seem to recall that Alpine should have Temperate-style summer and winter cycling

yes and no: it usually happens over several days: it's usually day and night that has the most variation, not day by day. And even the worst variation wasn't this extreme (usually ~10-15 degrees Fahrenheit). Then again, the climate's been changing here lately according to the local observers, so it may well have been more common in the past.  :shrug:

anyways, I found this funny quote: obviously the guy who said it isn't going to be very popular here, but it was still a good line:

Quote from: Jamal Abd an-nasserThe director of the Brotherhood made several requests. What were they? he first asked "you must impose the Hijab on Egypt", and let every woman walk the street wearing a "tarha"*: every one of them! and I told them "if someone told me we did this, then I'd say we returned to the days of Al-Hakim bi'amr illah**, who wouldn't let people walk out in the day, but at nights, And it's my opinion that it's up to the individual in his own house to implement this.

So he replies: "well, no, you as the ruler are responsible.". So I told him "Professor: you have a daughter in Medical School...she's not wearing a tarha or anything...Why didn't you dress her in one? If you can't get one girl--your own daughter--to dress in a tarha, how do you want me dress 10 million people in a tarha?"

*it's like an Egyptian version of the Burka, only lighter.
**a Fatimid ruler of Egypt: he was a bit of a fanatic...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on August 30, 2015, 10:30:09 AM
Win:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 02, 2015, 07:41:31 PM
From page 80 of the December 2012 edition of the MILO journal (a magazine mainly about strength athletics):

A reporter once asked Doug Hepburn, "Mr. Hepburn, how does it feel to be all brawn and no brains?"

Hepburn's response:  "I wouldn't know―how does it feel to be neither?"

I guess the reporter would have needed a HepBURN heal for that one. Hur hur hur. :3

On a semi-related note, it seems just about every legendary tier strongman, weightlifter, etc, tend to be from places that are cold:  Russia (Vasily Alexeev, among many others), Iceland (too many to name), and especially Canada (Louis Cyr & Doug Hepburn are two good examples).

Which leads me to wonder...what the hell are they feeding people up there? O.o
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 06, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
Just discovered this parody of Rudyard Kipling's "the White Man's Burden", written in 1902. a bit NSFW, but hey, it's still win (or at least, funny)

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Quote from: Ernest Crosby, 1902With apologies to Rudyard Kipling

Take up the White Man's burden.

Send forth your sturdy kin,

And load them down with Bibles

And cannon-balls and gin.

Throw in a few diseases

To spread the tropic climes,

For there the healthy *******

Are quite behind the times.

And don't forget the factories.

On those benighted shores

They have no cheerful iron mills,

Nor eke department stores.

They never work twelve hours a day

And live in strange content,

Altho they never have to pay

A single sou of rent.

Take up the White Man's burden,

And teach the Philippines

What interest and taxes are

And what a mortgage means.

Give them electrocution chairs,

And prisons, too, galore,

And if they seem inclined to kick,

Then spill their heathen gore.

They need our labor question, too,

And politics and fraud—

We've made a pretty mess at home,

Let's make a mess abroad.

And let us ever humbly pray

The Lord of Hosts may deign

To stir our feeble memories

Lest we forget—the Maine.

Take up the White's Man's burden.

To you who thus succeed

In civilizing savage hordes,

They owe a debt, indeed;

Concessions, pensions, salaries,

And privilege and right—

With outstretched hands you raised to bless

Grab everything in sight.

Take up the White Man's burden

And if you write in verse,

Flatter your nation's vices

And strive to make them worse.

Then learn that if with pious words

You ornament each phrase,

In a world of canting hypocrites

This kind of business pays.
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 13, 2015, 04:44:06 PM
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OK, it was too long for best insults thread, but not too long for here (red is what the idiots say--Bassem's lines in black
[spoiler]
Quote
No worries--the followers of Sheikh Hazem are a bit enthusiastic, but with President Morsi, the matter is totally different: the Brotherhood are sane people--they don't just exaggerate like that...

a Brotherhood big-wig: I am completely satisfied with the president's performance, and I believe he was destined to this role by our Lord

from the perspective of fate, he's a fate...our Lord chose him, God tests us with him...Everything our Lord brings is good! No worries about these complements and exaggerations--he didn't want it, but came by it through fate--that's fine--but it's hard to find someone who says "he's called upon by God", especially if her name is Manal abu ul-hasan of the Freedom and Justice Party *shows a screen with her name*

Muhammad Morsi the professor Doctor and Engineer...was called up by God allmighty, because he willed and chose him to be the candidate of the Muslim Brotherhood

And what about the money spent over shafeeq? was that called upon by God?!Or the revival project--was that from God? And human chains and crowds descending on the Ittihadiyya "and this is triangle cheese you bastards!"--all that, that was from God? All this next to a strong trait of his:

no one in the Media or among the politicians, or the non-politicians is able to find a single black point in his white history--he is a transparent white person!

you do realize you turned out to support the President, not to advertise a laundry detergent, right? "cleanliness of clothes, I mean I KISS YOUR HANDS DON'T TORCH THE STAGE! Also, what's with this "transparent"? what scandal is this? white and transparent? is he a Jellyfish?

*someone shows a picture of Mr. Andeel of the Brotherhood (Andeel means Jellyfish)*

NOT THIS GUY!

*picture of a Jellyfish*

YES!! THIS!!

Problem's that Morsi when he speaks, he speaks of achievements, on plans, on national concordance--true, nothing comes of it, but he speaks of it! He has a vision--it's true only the Brotherhood sees it, but if you take it by the hands, and look really hard at it....you still won't find it! But this isn't the problem--the problem is that other people promoted Morsi, not because he's an engineer or he has a vision, no--they promoted him for something totally different:

your president is bearded! your president goes on Umrah and visits the Prophet's mosque! Your president leads prayers! your president gives religious lessons! your president speaks of the Book and Way! do you not do takbeer?

Do you not do takbeer?! The cooking cylinder is 80 Pounds if you can find it! do you not do takbeer?! The garbage rather than being picked up increases so that you can fall over in its blessings! do you not do takbeer?! Blood pressure's climbing and we're going to rise with it*! do you not do takbeer?!

And people are going up on the pulpits and what have you, saying "what has he done in the first 100 days? what?" Who cares about the hundred days! We have a president Who prays, what more do you want? *the poster here reads: on the margins of the presidency*

No, no, no, on the subject of the hundred days, it doesn't occur to me that they'll exploit the faith on the subject of the hundred days:

What did the Prophet (PBUH) achieve after 100 days--that is, after he fled from Makkah to Medinah after 100 days? Guy interrupts: "no, I object to this" wait, I still must explain myself! what did the Prophet PBUH achieve, with divine protection, and aided by God allmighty: did he achieve the vision that the followers of the Prophet dreamed of in a hundred days? My question is as follows: what did the Prophet (PBUH) achieve in the first 100 days?**

So the divine revaluations came to Morsi and no one told us? You're clowning around with us, right? you don't mean this simile? Was there at the time revalation, a message, and so on, or are you winging that? Are you living with us in this day in age, or....

*imitating abu Jahl*: "they say there's a new constitution***...whose followers vote for with a yes...So what are we to do? (the poster here reads: "abu Jahl votes "no"; the tune is "we are the two crows of 'ak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEa4kWHE70))

This by the way is how the people speak at the salvation front****...are we done with the similes? is it over? does anyone want to add to this?

Dr. Mohammad Morsi...resembles the Prophet Joseph in one facet...I do not like to be excessive about anyone..

at all!! no excess, no exaggeration in using similes with Prophets at all! Shame has exceeded you and given you room!

So in what way did he resemble him?

our Lord Joseph, came out of the Prison and onto the throne...Dr. Mohammad Morsi also came out of Prison and onto the throne of Egypt

(poster reads to the side: "Freedom and famine/ we bring the famine to you") And because of this, whenever there's a famine in the country, and go through the seven years of drought, don't be worried...This is of the graces of Morsi...just as it happened that long ago...but maybe a real tiny request--just this tiny: can we first see the seven good years first? by the way, when the seven years of drought come to an end, you have to reelect him, then the following year will be perfect!

Have we completed using similes to prophets? can we talk about the blessings of the president and his qualification? It occurs to me that I'm a bit afraid of the subject of these similes...

God has graced us with a president...who leads prayers with his subordinates in the presidential palace! and prays communally in the Mosque! God is Great! The communal prayers has now started to be held in the Presidential palace!

My God! first time I heard of prayers in the presidential palace! that's totally lovely! oh I wonder, after that, did he destroy the idols there? Well, in light of this, congratulations on the conversion of the New Egypt to Islam! after Islam entered al-qurba and the suburbs of yuniopolis...This will be the last time Hamzawi will earn a seat in Parliament. I mean, thank God, the conquests had been halted at the urfa tunnel because of the traffic jam...But now there's hope that we'll complete the next step: God willing we'll be in the miriland and then the triumph*****...

OK, seriously guys: Thank God for having a president who is a believer...in all honestly--thuthfully...the President Morsi is perfect in all facets:

Morsi is an Islamist and bearded, and prays in the mosque and observes the morning prayers
Praise be to God...we now have a president with a beard...it's a bit small, but much better...

And you're still not pleased?! it's alright--we'll tolerate him...maybe tomorrow it'll lengthen more...right now it's not up to standards...it's small but close to yours!

is it really possible? that as long as he's bearded, then there's no problem at all? since he prays, problems in the land are going to be solved automatically?

Guys...Guys...all that is left, are dream visions...

excuse me...one second...I've seen Morsi in six visions

six visions? you have this much emptiness that he can come to you in six visions? does the president have time to come to you in six visions?

So did he come with his guards and jam the traffic, or did he cross over normally? I mean when the president comes to me, he closes two lanes dead in their tracks...Anyways, the vision's fine: at least she didn't say she was called on by God, or that he was dressed in white...

I saw him in six visions...and I see him weeping, and the man is weeping...and I see him in shining white clothes--a sign of faith and piety, and I tell him you are led by God

And sister once he came to me in my sleep--and that was a sign of good--and in his hands was a constitution...I asked the sheikh, and he said this is a good omen: I said "am I covered?", he said "no you're not--we all are!*"
[/spoiler]




*basically, "we're going to get fucked over with it"
**for the record: he did way more: formed a government, found housing for all the refugees who'd immigrated to Medinah by setting up a pairing system (one local volunteers to share his house with one immigrant), ended a war between aws and Khazraj (the two main Pagan tribes at the time), stopped another one from starting up after a Jewish guy tried to stir up memories of the day of Bu'ath, and came up with one of history's earliest written constitutions...I'd say that's more than Morsi did...
***Morsi attempted to first amend, then replace, the then current 1971 constitution: the salafis and brotherhood peoples wanted to vote yes, and started a campaign insinuating that you're against Islam if you vote no. Abu Jahl, for those of you who don't know, was the most savage persecutor of early Muslims--his real name was 'Amr b. Hisham, and "Abu Jahl" is an insult, meaning "father of ignorance".
****this was the secular coalition which formed the opposition in Morsi's government.
*****as in the monument Napoleon Built in Paris--that arc.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
This is a hell of a day, when I'm posting this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9326965/obama-political-correctness

I'm impressed: Obama said something I totally agree with.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on September 20, 2015, 08:54:55 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
This is a hell of a day, when I'm posting this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9326965/obama-political-correctness

I'm impressed: Obama said something I totally agree with.

I saw that! Waiting for the fallout. This should be good...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2015, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 20, 2015, 08:54:55 PM
I saw that! Waiting for the fallout. This should be good...

I'd grab popcorn, but with rationing in full effect, I'll make do with Ramen :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on September 21, 2015, 03:50:21 AM
The language is still quite vague, and he didn't allude to the most controversial cases. He still might be able to find loop holes when the times comes, as politicians often do. If he feels he have to defend the same behaviour in a very specific case, he will find specific words to make it sounds as a special case. Or at least I expect him to do so. Fuck me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 21, 2015, 08:22:31 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on September 21, 2015, 03:50:21 AM
The language is still quite vague, and he didn't allude to the most controversial cases. He still might be able to find loop holes when the times comes, as politicians often do. If he feels he have to defend the same behaviour in a very specific case, he will find specific words to make it sounds as a special case. Or at least I expect him to do so. Fuck me if I'm wrong.

as to fucking you for being wrong...I'd rather not, because I'm not gay, so we'll leave it at that.

as it happens, he's already locking horns with a University in California over this, and so far hasn't backed down or evaded. time will tell.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on September 21, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
It's a good start then.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 21, 2015, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 13, 2015, 04:44:06 PM
[yt]GkYPYCTK8Ss[/yt]

OK, it was too long for best insults thread, but not too long for here (red is what the idiots say--Bassem's lines in black
[spoiler][/spoiler]




*basically, "we're going to get fucked over with it"
**for the record: he did way more: formed a government, found housing for all the refugees who'd immigrated to Medinah by setting up a pairing system (one local volunteers to share his house with one immigrant), ended a war between aws and Khazraj (the two main Pagan tribes at the time), stopped another one from starting up after a Jewish guy tried to stir up memories of the day of Bu'ath, and came up with one of history's earliest written constitutions...I'd say that's more than Morsi did...
***Morsi attempted to first amend, then replace, the then current 1971 constitution: the salafis and brotherhood peoples wanted to vote yes, and started a campaign insinuating that you're against Islam if you vote no. Abu Jahl, for those of you who don't know, was the most savage persecutor of early Muslims--his real name was 'Amr b. Hisham, and "Abu Jahl" is an insult, meaning "father of ignorance".
****this was the secular coalition which formed the opposition in Morsi's government.
*****as in the monument Napoleon Built in Paris--that arc.

I found that pretty funny, he should keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 21, 2015, 11:53:38 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 20, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
This is a hell of a day, when I'm posting this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/14/9326965/obama-political-correctness

I'm impressed: Obama said something I totally agree with.

I wonder if he's saying this because he doesn't have much else to lose at this point.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 22, 2015, 12:37:08 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on September 21, 2015, 11:50:57 PM
I found that pretty funny, he should keep up the good work!

I wish he could--so does he: he was forced to leave Egypt after the pressure imposed on him in the aftermath of Morsi's deposition. So sadly the show no longer runs--people have suggested that he continue this in America (where he currently lives) or in another Arab country, but he refused, stating that he'd simply be seen as a foreign agent and so not have people hear his message. (and sadly, he's actually dead on here: people are very paranoid over there--everything's a conspiracy, which when you consider the history of that part of the world in the last century, you won't be surprised).

But his videos are still funny--and timeless even, since it deals with things that have always been in the Arab world (or really, much of the world).


EDIT: Oh, and here's what is probably his most savage trouncing of anyone. It should tell you something about his guts:

[yt]i1_ZVTN8CjE[/yt]

just so the joke at one point isn't lost, when Khaled asks "are you paid?", it's a play on words: 'aabid can mean "paid", but also "doing a handjob/blowjob"

and this one will possibly ruin your image of Mickey Mouse:

[yt]c1BPLxhsqSs[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 22, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
[yt]hzNOusM24cs[/yt]

Re: TL:DR/Teal Deer, not Badmouseproductsions.
Another anti-SJW & an-cap furry? O.O
Score!
The part with the social experiment was gold.
Male privilege/patriarchy my ass.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 27, 2015, 01:30:12 AM
a little context here: Back in 2013, a stupid guy reported a supposed alien abduction in Egypt (that alone should tell you who's--once again--here). He reported the guy's name and town, and then remarked that the supposed implant he had courtesy of these supposed aliens contained natural ratios of Calcium isotopes.

Which is where Bassem Youssef comes in:

[spoiler]
QuoteHe forgot to mention that they did however find infinite quantities of Bongo* in him....
[/spoiler]

*i.e. Pot.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on October 08, 2015, 10:08:22 PM
"Strength on a fat guy is like abs on a skinny guy. Neither counts. Show me someone who is strong, lean, muscular, and natty and I'll be impressed."--Me, regarding folks like Mark Riptoe and their "just eat through your sticking points" stuff.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 12, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
And Tf00t keeps on trucking with his alkali metals work, this time finding a reasonably safe and reliable way to demonstrate the reaction between sodium and water:

[yt]cDlyg_9m7tk[/yt]

Back in the late 1980's when I was in highschool, we had some...interesting experiments in chemistry class exploring the properties of some of these metals.

Sodium is a really interesting case, since the safety procedure to ensure we didn't have any left on the sample handling tool after we had burnt a sample was to plunge it into a beaker of water.  This is safer than it sounds, as the fact the sodium should be on fire at this point ensures the clean metal surface needed to initiate an explosion doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 12, 2015, 09:50:27 PM
found this lovely poem, written c. 700:

[spoiler]
Quote from: il-yamani
يا رَوضُ جيرانُكُمُ الباكِرُ    فالقَلْبُ لا لاهٍ ولا صابِرُ
قَالَتْ: ألا، لا تَلِجَنْ دَارَنا    إنَّ أبانا رجلٌ غائرُ
قُلتُ: فإنِّي طالبٌ غِرَّة ً    منهُ وَسَيْفِي صارِمٌ باتِرُ
قَالَتْ: فإنَّ القصرَ مِنْ دُونِنا    قُلْتُ: فإنّي فوقَهُ ظاهِرُ
قَالَتْ: فَإِنَّ البَحْرَ مِنْ دُونِنَا    قُلْتُ: فَإِنِّي سابِحٌ ماهِرُ
قَالَتْ: فَحَوْلي إخْوة ٌ سبْعَة ٌ    قُلْتُ: فإنِّي غالِبٌ قاهِرُ
قَالَتْ: فلَيثٌ رابضٌ بينَنا    قُلْتُ: فإنِّي أسَدٌ عاقِرُ
قَالَتْ: فإنَّ اللَّه مِنْ فوْقِنا    قُلْتُ: فَرَبِّي راحِمٌ غافِرُ
قالتْ : لقدْ أعييتنا حجة ً    فأتِ إذا ما هجعَ السامرُ
فاسقطْ علينا كسقوطِ الندى    ليلَة َ لا ناهٍ ولا زاجِرُ
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it translates to this (roughly):

QuoteOh garden early of your neighbors, for the heart is neither distracted nor patient:
She said: No, Don't stop by our place, our father's a jealous man
I said: then I look forward to his jealousy, and my sword is firm and cutting
she said: then the palace is between us! I said: then over it I triumph
She said: then the sea is between us! I said: I'm a skilled swimmer
she said: then around me are seven brother! I said: I'm defeating and conquering!
She said: then there's a panther stalking between us! I said: I'm a killer Lion!
She said: then God is above us! I said: God is merciful and forgiving!
She said: we've run out of arguments, so come when the late-night folk sing
and fall on us as a dew falls in a night, neither forbidding nor loud

If I ever get married--unlikely as it is--I'm remember to propose with this poem (or sing it when it's time to consummate) :P
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 15, 2015, 02:46:59 AM
my reaction to the way people kept dodging in both party's debates:

[yt]2Et1kwAedtk[/yt]

he's saying "ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!!!! ARE YOU ALL LIKE THIS?! ANSWERING A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION?!!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on October 15, 2015, 09:17:02 AM
I guess this is an oldie by this point, but the Rush song "Alien Shore," considered quite progressive for its time, now opposes against everything feminism and Social Justice has come to stand for:

You and I, we are strangers by one chromosome
Slave to the hormone, body and soul
In a struggle to be happy and free
Swimming in a primitive sea

You and I, we must dive below the surface
A world of red neon and ultramarine
Shining bridges on the ocean floor
Reaching to the alien shore

For you and me, sex is not a competition
For you and me, sex is not a job description
For you and me
We agree

You and I, we are pressed into these solitudes
Color and culture, language and race
Just variations on a theme
Islands in a much larger stream

For you and me, race is not a competition
For you and me, race is not a definition
For you and me
We agree

But that's just us
Reaching for the alien shore

You and I, we reject these narrow attitudes
We add to each other like a coral reef
Building bridges on the ocean floor
Reaching for the alien shore

For you and me, race is not a competition
For you and me, sex is not a definition
For you and me, we hold these truths to be self-evident
For you and me, we'd elect each other president
For you and me
We might agree

But that's just us
Reaching for the alien shore
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 19, 2015, 08:34:52 AM
An unusually good article from LinkedIn on a recent tech scandal:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-entrepreneurs-can-learn-from-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-chaffee (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-entrepreneurs-can-learn-from-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-chaffee)

QuoteThe media surrounding Holmes and Theranos over the past several years has been a powerful force.  They took the story of the Stanford drop out with a passion to change the world and ran with it and they ran far.  America ate it up with little question, me included.  Now when I read her story it occurs to me she had very little formal knowledge of science.  Even if you read science journals all day long and took every advanced placement science class in high school, I have a hard time believing you would be prepared to create a product at the technology level Holmes did.  Her answers to questions posed in the past by the scientific community should have made everyone reconsider the story promoted and implied that she is a young science genius.  I certainly don't discount her idea and passion and potential ability to rally the right people to fill those gaps but a 19 year old who hasn't taken at least microbiology, physics and chemistry at a college level is a different reality than the story the media has implied.  The biggest thing I take away from this is that if a story is pitched and repeated enough times, whether true or not, it can be believed by the masses including influential people who one would think couldn't be easily swayed. This belief can bring money, respect (deserved or not) and near celebrity status.  Maybe we all want a bandwagon to jump on, maybe we buy in because it makes us believe it can happen to someone else and that means it can happen to us too.  Maybe we honestly want to see someone make a difference and become successful in that process.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 07, 2015, 07:58:28 PM
[yt]TPMmoJrkxeg[/yt]

finally, I found a channel dedicated entirely to exposing the CCP.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AdeptusHereticus on November 07, 2015, 08:26:12 PM
does the video work for you guys ?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 07, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on November 07, 2015, 08:26:12 PM
does the video work for you guys ?

No, it's just throwing me an error.  The embedding probably doesn't like the annotation references you've included.  I've seen even the most basic URL features (like a start time offset) not work in YouTube embeddings here.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on November 08, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on November 07, 2015, 08:26:12 PM
does the video work for you guys ?

It does now that I fixed the embed. ;)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on November 20, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
[yt]iKcWu0tsiZM[/yt]

This video would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that far too many people didn't think education should be like this. (Looking at you, Tumblr!)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 08, 2015, 08:46:05 AM
Rather a nice deconstruction of a Feminist complaint disguised as a (superficially) reasonable one:

[yt]f2hAI04IxxQ[/yt]

Sexy armor complained about as being unrealistic, compared to World of Warcraft armors that do not generate complaints about their lack of realism, despite the fact that they would, in fact, kill their wearers if you somehow made armors that looked like that.

Incidentally, is that last video BlameThe1st embedded part of a series?  I know I've seen that Uncanny Valley girl in a clip from another, similarly themed video recently.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 08, 2015, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on December 08, 2015, 08:46:05 AMIncidentally, is that last video BlameThe1st embedded part of a series?  I know I've seen that Uncanny Valley girl in a clip from another, similarly themed video recently.

Not a series, but that channel has a bunch of short films in it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 13, 2015, 11:21:01 PM
A funny conversation with dad (loosely translated):

QuoteDad: so is the market for oil still bad where you are?

I: yeah.

Dad: what's causing it you think? you're in the business.

I: Oh, well, according to all the reports and news I read from LinkedIn, rigzone, even some Youtube Channels* and my company's pamphlet, the Saudis are said to be trying to drive out the US market from competing with them, as the US have gained an advantage due to their new technology**. The Saudis lower it, the US responds and survives, the Saudis keep doing it, and it all goes downhill

Dad (laughing): You know Ibrahim, they're telling me the exact opposite here: that America's driving down the oil prices as an assault on the Arab world, to destroy its economy***

I (Laughing): Really?

Dad: With how news contradicts itself between America and home, it's hard to say which is telling the truth these days: America or the Arabs?

I: Maybe it's both--or neither.

Dad: both or neither...makes more sense.

*here I refer to Test tube and Seeker daily.
**Fracking in other words.
***It's a sad reflection of the state of affairs back home when everything America does is seen as a conspiracy against the Arab world...Israel is an equally viable object of blame (like how many blame them for ISIS: an uncle swears that the "Caliph" is a Mossad agent..)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: bp_28 on December 13, 2015, 11:33:58 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
"The good of 'society' has replaced the notion that the individual has a sacred right to live unmolested by government interference."
- Ron Paul

"I believe all human interaction should be voluntary; no exceptions. That even applies to those people calling themselves 'government'. Only the psychopaths of the world believe it's OK to shoot people to provide services. It doesn't matter what the service is; you don't shoot people to build roads or to pay for schools."
Or to provide health care.

"That two men have no more natural right to exercise any kind of authority over one, than one has to exercise the same authority over two. A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber (or by any other name indicating his true character), or by millions calling themselves a government." -- Lysander Spooner

Seconded
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on December 19, 2015, 02:36:34 AM
Why you shouldn't try to argue semantics.
[yt]FzF1KySHmUA[/yt]

Of course the twin tower beams didn't "melt", they got so fucking hot they lost their strength.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 21, 2015, 10:22:55 AM
Stephan's conversation with Barbara Oakley, an engineering professor at Oakland University, who has done a lot of work on learning and pathological altruism.  That later is the basis of quite a lot of the well-intended stuff that causes much of the worst of the world's troubles.  (When the trouble isn't being caused by people who are actively disinterested in the consequences of their actions on others.)

[yt]sqIYznUlwtA[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 26, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
OK, I think we can officially say Russians have a really great sense of humor on the basis of this video, one of MANY of the same subject, on a whole bunch of channels, apparently all originating from Russia:

[yt]watch?v=jXguTAzm4Ao[/yt]

There's a clip in another one of a kid who tries to throw a Molotov cocktail, and ends up setting HIMSELF on fire.  I think the the best two in this one are back to back:  A guy takes a swing at someone in a panda costume crossing a bridge, gets knocked down, tries to grapple the person in the panda costume and gets thrown off the bridge, followed by a group of what look like students forcing what looks like an administrator through an office of some sort, then them running the other way, followed by the possible administrator who now has a hatchet.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 31, 2015, 07:00:56 PM
https://imgflip.com/i/wne9z

This is my commentary on the Democratic Party's current selection of lead condidates. I intend to make one for the GOP.

here's my take on New Year's day resolutions:

https://imgflip.com/i/wndys
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: bp_28 on January 11, 2016, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Dukect45 on August 20, 2013, 12:44:38 AM
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A very good video from the young turks

That's not very common:
[yt]T3GPwqA8swg[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: bp_28 on January 16, 2016, 12:10:01 AM
This one's for you, Shane:
   bogosity
The degree to which something is bogus. Bogosity is measured with a bogometer; in a seminar, when a speaker says something bogus, a listener might raise his hand and say "My bogometer just triggered". More extremely, "You just pinned my bogometer" means you just said or did something so outrageously bogus that it is off the scale, pinning the bogometer needle at the highest possible reading (one might also say "You just redlined my bogometer"). The agreed-upon unit of bogosity is the microLenat.
Bush's claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (WMD) pegged my bogometer at 1000 microLenats, producing bogosity of Biblical proportion - Urban Dictionary
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on January 19, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
An accurate description of politics--particularly modern politics--from the 12th century:

QuoteOh Sultan! the danger of the state is great, and its tread mighty. So the Sultan must ever yearn to speak to the scholars, and must always take care to listen to their advice. And he must beware the "scholars of ill" who have a care for this life; for they only praise you and make you proud and aim only to please you, covetous of what is in your hands of the slag of ruin, and the torrent of the forbidden, so as to get something from you with cunning and trickery...

the Scholar is he who does not covet your money, and is just to you in admonition and speech.

just replace scholar with expert, think tank, lobbyist, or something similar, and you'll see the win.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dukect45 on January 21, 2016, 04:37:47 PM
A very good video about Adaptive Gaming from Tyger the host of Mud2mmo

[yt]mQswt_GFCro[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 24, 2016, 06:11:28 PM
OK, some music videos that came up in my YouTube feed awhile back.  In a spoiler, since there's seven of them.  These are really good, if you like this sort of thing.

[spoiler]

[yt]aGk5I6Fejh4[/yt]

[yt]9evqS0N_tWc[/yt]

[yt]bqL7Yllgeew[/yt]

[yt]4ltTnQu2BNI[/yt]

[yt]hG-K41WY-tg[/yt]

[yt]Ql8m0LEgztE[/yt]

[yt]wtJPuu5TE3E[/yt]

[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on January 30, 2016, 03:43:38 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/066/088/412.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 03, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
Not an image, or video, but just a good old fashion text quote, for old time's sake:

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”—Christopher Hitchens
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 03, 2016, 06:38:33 PM
I just had an epiphany: you could narrate the presidential race exactly as one would narrate a horse race! seriously, check out this coverage of the Iowa caucus:

Quote from: yours truly: originally posted on facebook

"here we see the old rickety red horse against the old rickety mare: she's better ridden, but has too much baggage: it's neck and neck, no clear lead, running at high speed. Old rickety mare acts like she's going to win, and slacks off, making the neck and neck race even more neck and neck--looks like we'll need to look at the footage in slow-motion to determine the winner. Nearest horse to them is way behind--no hope at all!

meanwhile bible thumper is outracing rathead, rathead outracing plastic face, and plastic face leaving all the others behind: look! the foal is quitting! he certainly doesn't have his father's stamina! Oh what a day! rathead seems to be taking it well enough, but he must be seething under there!

stay tuned for the next qualification races, held in New Hampshire later this month."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
"Brevity is the soul of wit."―Polonius, Hamlet Act 2, scene 2, 86–92
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 03, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
"Brevity is the soul of wit."―Polonius, Hamlet Act 2, scene 2, 86–92

Which he said in the middle of being about as wordy as he possibly could be! (And half of that was saying how he would be brief.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 03, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Which he said in the middle of being about as wordy as he possibly could be! (And half of that was saying how he would be brief.)
I saw!  It struck me as Shakespeare being ironic and/or that character being a comic foil or something of a bumbler.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 03, 2016, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
I saw!  It struck me as Shakespeare being ironic and/or that character being a comic foil or something of a bumbler.

Actually, if you read the whole text, you'll see he was only putting on the impression of being a bumbler. He was as corrupt as everyone else in the royal court.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 03, 2016, 03:30:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 03, 2016, 03:27:07 PM
Actually, if you read the whole text, you'll see he was only putting on the impression of being a bumbler. He was as corrupt as everyone else in the royal court.
Noted. X3  I only saw the quote in the context of ~4 lines of text. X3

"Schrödinger's libertarian: an irrelevant fringe nutter who has taken over the world and controls it."—Me.

A bit masturbatory, posting my own, but I still liked it enough to share it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 19, 2016, 04:10:00 PM
In the Couldn't Befall Amore Deserving Entity file...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-hulkhogan-idUSKCN0WK16Y (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-hulkhogan-idUSKCN0WK16Y)

Hulk Hogan won his lawsuit against Gawker yesterday, and has been awarded $115 million in emotional and economic damages.  On Monday, the jury starts considering the punitive damages.  Gawker is hoping the appellate court will overturn the case for them so they can keep doing this sort of thing.

It takes nerve for Gawker to claim juries just don't like the media and the appellate courts are more fair.  I'm rather expecting they won't get enough of a reduction in their penalties to stay afloat.

edit: fixed spelling
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 21, 2016, 01:45:29 AM
[yt]LJ3ldqsNbD4[/yt]

I am utterly shocked!

To understand what it so important about this, it isn't what he's saying (it's only mildly funny--at least compared to Bassem Youssef). It's that this man, is a Iraqi (and he has the thick accent to prove it), who has a Jon Stewart style show, openly mocking both ISIS and his own government.

Overall, it's been a couple of good days: Hulk Hogan wins, I find this, and I saved ~10 dollars in food expenses by going to document Baha'i customs (though I mainly went to speak to a professor--who is a baha'i).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 22, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
And proving just how inept the UK government is when it comes to the internet...

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/300-million-polar-ship-could-be-named-boaty-mcboatface-/65277/ (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/300-million-polar-ship-could-be-named-boaty-mcboatface-/65277/)

They ask on the internet for suggestions for their new, extremely advanced research icebreaker.  The leading name is 'Boaty McBoatface', with two others (Usain Boat and Its Bloody Cold Here) being almost as silly.

I suspect they might select one of the more conventional entries, like David Attenboroug or Henry Worsley, but we can hope for Pillar Of Autumn.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 23, 2016, 10:27:44 AM
This one is just so funny, because the guy doing it normally does videos about slightly junky products he's bought on eBay, sometimes products that turn out to be good, some that are dangerous, and some that are improvable, but this time he does something rather stupid to find out what it's like.

[yt]ep2I3Gf3Sec[/yt]

The normally quite soft-spoken Big Clive takes a sip of methylated spirits and starts swearing profusely at the taste.  (In the UK, they add an extremely bitter compound to further discourage drinking it, in case the fact it's full of toxic methanol isn't enough.)

The brand name on the bottle is kind of interesting, too.  We've got a company of the same name here in Canada, and from what I can tell from the web sites of the two companies, they operate in very similar ways in very similar markets, without having anything specific to do with each other.  There's also a similarly named company in Australia that's more the building supply area.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 15, 2016, 10:03:18 AM
"People who trust a free market support a spontaneous bottom up social order in which free individuals make voluntary contracts with each other, and no one can lawfully initiate force, fraud, duress, or defamation against anyone else. It's where people are free to try and support their own solutions to problems, discard the ones that don't work and keep the ones that do.  And where, by extension, people tolerate others lifestyles, instead of running to government to point guns at them because people doing things differently makes them sad in their pants.  Is that vision so obviously unattractive that we have to refer its supporters for psychological evaluation?

"We might instead wonder at the psychological condition of those who would denounce such a social order: might they be motivated, for all their noble talk, by nothing but base envy of those with more material wealth and more fun in their lives than they, or by a pathological desire to dominate other people?"--Me, inspired by the last three paragraphs of this article:  https://mises.org/library/supporters-capitalism-are-crazy-says-harvard
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 16, 2016, 09:34:36 AM
The background is too complicated to explain briefly, but this is from a multi-viewpoint shared universe online thing that isn't all that consistent.

http://wanderers-library.wikidot.com/the-antarctic-model-a-failed-experiment-in-ecological-engine (http://wanderers-library.wikidot.com/the-antarctic-model-a-failed-experiment-in-ecological-engine)

I'm pretty sure I know what they based it on (in the spoiler) but it's written in terms of penguins of all things.

[spoiler]I'm pretty sure it's about Canada's recent prostitution law debacle and the introduction of the already-failed Scandinavian Model laws against it that were then put in.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 20, 2016, 02:39:46 PM
"I don't have a lot of respect for talent;  talent is genetic.  It's what you do with it that counts."—Martin Ritt

"Cerebration is the enemy of originality in art."—Martin Ritt
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 22, 2016, 08:41:18 PM
“If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should?"—Sam Harris
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 23, 2016, 06:04:52 PM
Everytime some statist or other religious nimrod pulls an ad hominem/argument from authority or other such fallacy, I'm reminded of this win quote:

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."—Eleanor Roosevelt
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 24, 2016, 04:26:51 PM
"I swear, if men spent HALF as much time obsessing about breasts as SJWs do..."—Shane Killian in the Bogosity Co-Host Discussion
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/The-Truth-About-NC-HB2-605351498
http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/My-opinion-on-bathroom-legislation-605357218

Shane knocking it out of the park, as usual. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 26, 2016, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 26, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/The-Truth-About-NC-HB2-605351498
http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/My-opinion-on-bathroom-legislation-605357218

Shane knocking it out of the park, as usual. :)

Just for everyone's info, these are based on a recent video that's pissed off MANY a bigoted regressive:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 26, 2016, 07:01:25 PM
Just for everyone's info, these are based on a recent video that's pissed off MANY a bigoted regressive:

[yt]Wqhsm6-fmqs[/yt]

Thanks for sharing. :)

And as I posted on your video:

As long as no one is initiating force against anyone else, who cares?  This hoopla on bathrooms is about as 1st World Problems as it gets!

More proof that the left is more reggressive than the libertarian movement ever will or could be!

Also the bit about deflecting blame onto others reminds me of that bit in the South Park Movie:

"We must blame them
and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming us"

In the "Blame Canada" song. 

These SJWs/Reggressive Leftist really are the modern day Puritans, aren't they?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 29, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Egyptian President Nasser being awesome:

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(I'm assuming the translation is correct. Ibrahim?)

Yes, just half a century ago these ideas were laughable. The problem is not Islam, the problem is the US's murderous foreign policy that has radicalized the people.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 01, 2016, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 29, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Egyptian President Nasser being awesome:

[yt]TX4RK8bj2W0[/yt]

(I'm assuming the translation is correct. Ibrahim?)

Yes, just half a century ago these ideas were laughable. The problem is not Islam, the problem is the US's murderous foreign policy that has radicalized the people.
Something to share to the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab bigots. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 03, 2016, 03:25:29 AM
Yeah, it's basically correct.

It's even funnier if you're an Arab--especially an Egyptian, or one who at least knows about the Fatimids (the comparison to Al-Hakim bi-Amr illah would have been very humiliating to the Muslim Brotherhood: he's basically calling them insane--really insane, like, "I am God" insane. Having people work only at night was the least form of madness he had).

EDIT: actually, I did quote him here earlier--August 30th of last year, and it was about this clip (though no subtitles):

Quote

anyways, I found this funny quote: obviously the guy who said it isn't going to be very popular here, but it was still a good line:

Quote from:  Jamal Abd an-nasserThe director of the Brotherhood made several requests. What were they? he first asked "you must impose the Hijab on Egypt", and let every woman walk the street wearing a "tarha"*: every one of them! and I told them "if someone told me we did this, then I'd say we returned to the days of Al-Hakim bi'amr illah**, who wouldn't let people walk out in the day, but at nights, And it's my opinion that it's up to the individual in his own house to implement this.

    So he replies: "well, no, you as the ruler are responsible.". So I told him "Professor: you have a daughter in Medical School...she's not wearing a tarha or anything...Why didn't you dress her in one? If you can't get one girl--your own daughter--to dress in a tarha, how do you want me dress 10 million people in a tarha?"


*it's like an Egyptian version of the Burka, only lighter.
**a Fatimid ruler of Egypt: he was a bit of a fanatic...

Obviously the translation is different, but that's partly because I speak a different dialect of Arabic, and often tend to be more literal.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 07, 2016, 11:18:53 PM
"Many critics complain that the free market, in casting aside inefficient entrepreneurs or in other decisions, proves itself an 'impersonal monster.' The free-market economy, they charge, is 'the rule of the jungle,' where 'survival of the fittest' is the law. Libertarians who advocate a free market are therefore called 'Social Darwinists' who wish to exterminate the weak for the benefit of the strong...The free market, in fact, is precisely the diametric opposite of the 'jungle' society. The jungle is characterized by the war of all against all. One man gains only at the expense of another, by seizure of the latter’s property. With all on a subsistence level, there is a true struggle for survival, with the stronger force crushing the weaker. In the free market, on the other hand, one man gains only through serving another, though he may also retire into self-sufficient production at a primitive level if he so desires. It is precisely through the peaceful co-operation of the market that all men gain through the development of the division of labor and capital investment. To apply the principle of the 'survival of the fittest' to both the jungle and the market is to ignore the basic question: Fitness for what? The 'fit' in the jungle are those most adept at the exercise of brute force. The 'fit' on the market are those most adept in the service of society. The jungle is a brutish place where some seize from others and all live at the starvation level; the market is a peaceful and productive place where all serve themselves and others at the same time and live at infinitely higher levels of consumption...In the jungle, some gain only at the expense of others. On the market, everyone gains. It is the market—the contractual society—that wrests order out of chaos, that subdues nature and eradicates the jungle, that permits the 'weak' to live productively, or out of gifts from production, in a regal style compared to the life of the 'strong' in the jungle. Furthermore, the market, by raising living standards, permits man the leisure to cultivate the very qualities of civilization that distinguish him from the brutes. It is precisely statism that is bringing back the rule of the jungle—bringing back conflict, disharmony, caste struggle, conquest and the war of all against all, and general poverty."—Murray N. Rothbard, Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market, p 1324-1326
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2016, 04:38:53 PM
"The four peace treaties of Versailles, Saint Germain, Trianon, and Svres together form the most clumsy diplomatic settlement ever carried out. They will be remembered as outstanding examples of political failure."—Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War, p 211
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 08, 2016, 05:16:53 PM
"Socialism, which requires a total state, is not a viable alternative to capitalism. Any step toward socialism is a step toward economic irrationality."—(parapharased)
Last part of Austrian Answer to question 9 on the Are You an Austrian? quiz:  https://web.archive.org/web/20110303022113/http://mises.org/quiz.aspx
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 10, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
Not so much for the content (yet to be filled), as for the prior warning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IyFe0ePki4

I sent a request to join in future hangouts--having (I hope) figured out how to do so.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 11, 2016, 04:42:57 PM
"Of course not! 'Fair Use' means nothing until the DMCA is DOA."—Our own, DukeCT
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on May 11, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on May 10, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
Not so much for the content (yet to be filled), as for the prior warning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IyFe0ePki4

I sent a request to join in future hangouts--having (I hope) figured out how to do so.

I went ahead and added you to my Co-Host circle on Google Plus, so you should get the invite along with everyone else's.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 11, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 11, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
I went ahead and added you to my Co-Host circle on Google Plus, so you should get the invite along with everyone else's.

I'm looking at it now. just got to get into the conversing part. EDIT: yes, I'm technologically primitive, "fee eh?" :P

EDIT: nevermind. I've made it  ;D
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 16, 2016, 09:52:36 AM
"Dance like nobody is watching; encrypt like everyone is."—I don't know who first said it...and Google isn't helping
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 21, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
even in the 12th century people knew better than to "trade religions"

Quote from: ibn Rushd, c. 1180Trade in religions is one of the successful trades in societies where ignorance is widespread. So if you want to control an ignorant man, then you must wrap every falsehood in a religious cover.

The guy is more famously known as Averroes.

Very relevant, seeing we've had the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt, and ISIS in Syria.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2016, 09:15:18 PM
"If cub porn is pedophilia, then furry porn is bestiality.

"You can't justify one label without the same reasoning applying to the other. It always comes down to an emotional response, not a logical one."—Michael Herman, on Facebook.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 28, 2016, 09:16:09 PM
"DRM is as pointless as the War on Drugs. All it does is make money for the bad guys."—Someone on another forum
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 29, 2016, 10:18:47 PM
"9) You MUST NOT share or give your username and password to any person, entity, group, or organization. It's yours, you paid for it with your hard-earned money. Staying faithful to this honor system will ensure the longevity of the publication. Encourage others to do the responsible thing and get their own subscription if they try to mooch off of you."—The Terms and Conditions of Alan Aragon's Research Review

It seems Alan is familiar with the fact that you tend to catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.  I just wish more people understood that.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 03, 2016, 12:08:14 PM
A new one from Big Clive, with a rather unique piece of equipment:

[yt]pnJml7Rz3sQ[/yt]

This is the first time he's seen (or I've heard of) a device that was packaged while on fire.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2016, 02:54:16 PM
"I'm the Doctor.  And if you don't like it, if you want to take it to a higher authority, then there isn't one.  It stops with me."—The 9th Doctor, New Earth
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 06, 2016, 03:41:30 PM
"In the disturbances caused by scarcity of food, the mob goes in search of bread, and the means it employs is generally to wreck the bakeries. This may serve as a symbol of the attitude adopted, on a greater and more complicated scale, by the masses of today towards the civilization by which they are supported … Civilization is not 'just here,' it is not self-supporting.
"It is artificial … if you want to make use of the advantages of civilization, but are not prepared to concern yourself with the upholding of civilization — you are done. In a trice you find yourself left without civilization. Just a slip, and when you look, everything has vanished into air. The primitive forest appears in its native state, just as if curtains covering pure Nature had been drawn back. The jungle is always primitive and vice versa, everything primitive is mere jungle."—José Ortega y Gasset, The Revolt of the Masses, New York: W.W. Norton, 1932, p. 97.

I first found that quote from Murray N. Rothbard's article:  https://mises.org/library/death-wish-anarcho-communists

I've read that above quote dozens of times.  And every time without fail, I get chills down my spine.  Gasset knew his shit.  He knew it well.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 16, 2016, 10:36:18 AM
at 15:40 in this video:

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"One of the most common things I read on my channel are posts from people who say they like my videos debunking religious belief, but don't agree with my debunking of whatever it is THEY believe. But the point I'm making is that, if you're going to reject or cherry-pick science to support your beliefs, then it doesn't matter if those beliefs are religious, ideological, humanitarian, or anything else. You're changing reality to fit your conclusions. That's the exact opposite of science." —Potholer54
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 17, 2016, 09:00:19 PM
Never thought I'd post one of these comics here:  http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=377

(http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/160615.jpg)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on June 21, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
One of the best C4SS articles yet:

https://c4ss.org/content/45387
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 23, 2016, 12:05:57 PM
"The only thing that Democrats have proven is that they're a bunch of petulant children, who have no qualms about using slogans from people who fought for rights to call for secret government lists and no due process."—our own Shane Killian on his Facebook timeline.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 24, 2016, 03:48:59 AM
"Calling someone a cuck for having an opinion different than yours is akin to SJWs calling people racist. It's just name calling."—TheEpicSammich on Twitter. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 25, 2016, 11:55:31 AM
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it."—Chinese Proverb

And something to tell the "it's not possible/we've peaked with our technology!" crowd.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on June 27, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
Pretty much every generation thinks they've peaked the technology. In reality, we may reach certain plateaus, but never truly the peak. Transportation, for example, was essentially unchanged for thousands of years - until it wasn't.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on June 27, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
Pretty much every generation thinks they've peaked the technology. In reality, we may reach certain plateaus, but never truly the peak. Transportation, for example, was essentially unchanged for thousands of years - until it wasn't.
That's a fav quote in and of itself! *high fives and gives you a cluon!* X3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2016, 06:32:08 PM
"If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms.  Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were ever our countrymen."―Samuel Adams
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
I will now follow that 10/10 quote up with two that are a lot less serious/more silly (and furry related) to lighten the mood:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0BM2c0WEAAad2S.png) (From Red Rusker's Fur Affinity).

And another from his Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ruskertweets/status/747180053633470466

Both for making me laugh. :P
Looking at his twitter, if you have the tolerance for it, I'd recommend just looking down his timeline for some really funny and witty posts.  Fair warning though:  he does have some NSFW furry art posted there.

Just in case anyone whines about the furry "porn": 
1) The two pictures I shared aren't porn.
2) Not all of our art is pornographic in nature or intent
3) If you get to nerd out and share and post ad naseum about your own interests:  LARPing, Swords, Computers, Video Games, Doctor Who, Super Heroes, Star Wars, Music & Music History, anime, PC Master Race stuff, etc, it's only fair that I get to do the same about my interest of furry art.  I've always been very respectful of your interests, so I don't think I'm being unreasonable to ask the same courtesy of me and mine.
4) And if for any reason #3 is too much to ask, let me know so I can take my company, time and money elsewhere.  As I told Shane today, I'm tired of being talked down to, bullied, browbeaten and manipulated, both in real life AND online from people who at least ought know better.

Posted because of some drama in the co-host chat that was the last straw and got me to leave it.  Specifically flak from one co-host (long blocked everywhere I could be assed to block him, and not named as I don't feel like starting a pointless flame war with him or his friends here) who is in dire need of a psychiatrist.  Anyone who reacts THAT negatively and condescendingly/cunty/antagonistically to completely SFW furry art, calling it "porn," and using it as an excuse to dismiss and hand-wave away the real problems I'm dealing with has some very serious denial and repression going on.  At the very least, someone calling SFW art that would pass as Disney levels of family friendly "porn" is so sexually repressed they give the puritans/SJWs/feminists a run for their money.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on June 28, 2016, 12:49:06 AM
I want bailouts I want welfare
Govco Govco please deliver!

-Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on June 28, 2016, 12:49:06 AM
I want bailouts I want welfare
Govco Govco please deliver!

-Me
I see what you did there:

[yt]wz91vQbjmBI[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2016, 11:21:02 AM
"If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room."―Unknown
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: dallen68 on June 28, 2016, 11:41:17 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2016, 11:21:02 AM
"If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room."―Unknown

If you're the smartest person in the room, try a room with at least one other person in it. - Me
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on June 29, 2016, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 28, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
I see what you did there:

[yt]wz91vQbjmBI[/yt]

If only there were more lyrics we could rewrite into that tune!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2016, 12:05:44 PM
"Anyone who talks about technological development being 'unnatural' deserves to be abandoned in the wilderness wearing nothing but a fig leaf. But even if I weren't biased, if there's a conflict growing between a group of people with ocean liner pistons for forearms and a group of people who insist that everyone should be forced to be as shit as they are, I know which side I'd rather be on. Hey, I've got a better name for the pro-humanity movement: The Sore Losers Club!"―Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation, his Deux Ex: Human Revolution review.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
"[Y]ou can't blame someone for breaking a window if the only door is in the roof. "―Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation, his Pikmin 3 review
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on June 29, 2016, 12:59:49 PM
Here's one in the same vein as Travis's recent quotes:

"'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is the stupidest freaking saying in the world. All of the amazing things that have happened throughout human history is because someone decided to take something that they thought was working fine, break it, and build something better." —Bryan Lunduke
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2016, 01:11:30 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 29, 2016, 12:59:49 PM
Here's one in the same vein as Travis's recent quotes:

"'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is the stupidest freaking saying in the world. All of the amazing things that have happened throughout human history is because someone decided to take something that they thought was working fine, break it, and build something better." —Bryan Lunduke
And you just earned your 31st cluon for that one! If only because I'm an engineer. :3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2016, 10:27:49 PM
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More light hearted furry fun.  This time, a song that I've found very soothing and nice. :)

[yt]t47fADGOaxc[/yt]

Another one that I find very sweet. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 29, 2016, 10:32:04 PM
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Oh man, this video takes me WAY back. Videos of furry pictures set to romantic or sweet music. All the nostalgia. <3
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 08, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
"The enemy of my enemy is not [necessarily] my friend."—our own Dave, and Penn Jillette in an episode of "Bullshit!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 08, 2016, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 08, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
"The enemy of my enemy is not my friend."—our own Dave, since Google isn't giving me a source.

As the Nietzscheans put it, "The enemy of my enemy...is just another enemy."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 09, 2016, 01:20:21 AM
It's about Morsi, but it applies to virtually every government in history...(I can't get the embed to work, but you should see the video, linked below to when it starts: the lines translated will be a lot funnier that way).

https://youtu.be/lykCexcbog8?t=20m19s

Quote from: Bassem Youssef"and this is the real achievement of the president and the brotherhood...to have everyone think they have achievements--to fool yourself, and create illusion for those around you. And if you have trouble proving yourself to the people, then go the way of the Brotherhood, and and use Injaz service (Injaz=achievement):

Commercial starts:

Quote from: commercial
Ayman Wattar (AW): Hey! you! failure at life?
*Khalid nods yes eagerly*
AW: your resources are running out and you can't get more?
have you grown tired of people's looks at you?
and inside you is a lot you want to say?
*lady opens a jam jar Khalid couldn't, as narrator continues*
No one appreciates you save your family and friends?
Anchorman: FAILURE!!!
AW: worry not! with Injaz service, we have a wide assortment of imaginary achievements!
So what if people see you are a failure?
focus with me! It's enough you deceive yourself into thinking you achieve things! With injaz service, everything in your life is an achievement!
-To find a parking spot right by your home is an achievement--even if you have no car!
-That you watch the president's speech--that is an achievement! And that you complete it--that is also an achievement!
*Khalid emerges from the bathroom*
AW: never-mind that you have achievements people don't see--and it's best if people don't see them!
-To attribute someone else's achievements to yourself--that is also an achievement! He's* better than you and he does it!
-to hell with people's opinion! With injaz service, keep believing* yourself...



*Mohammad Morsi--then president of Egypt...
*in this context, you can also translate it as "keep deluding yourself"...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 09, 2016, 07:52:42 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 08, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
"The enemy of my enemy is not my friend."—our own Dave, since Google isn't giving me a source.

Penn Jillette said it in an episode of "Bullshit!"
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 12, 2016, 12:53:00 AM
I put it here, because it is the ultimate example of a "hidden joke" in action. and I mean it's hidden:

[yt]watch?v=lniQLntLPQs[/yt]

The commercial itself is nothing special. Personally I find it mildly funny at best.

But Bassem has kindly provided an Arabic translation to his Arab audience. There's where the comedy really begins. I'll write it, line by line:

[spoiler]
-laughter and silliness and ultimate *no idea--some weird Egyptian word*
-How are ya sis?! can I bring my headless baby and come with you?
-hello sister!
-peace be upon you! (my god have you been castrated)
-tired of too many Muslims around you?
-disgusted from how often you're worried about everyone else?
-Oh yeah man!
-GASP!
-Then you're totally petty****, and need "breathe easy" (breathe easy)
-YAY!!!
-totally sweet!
-with the patent for our technology, which no one wants to use (kind of like Abd al-Ati's kufta (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10665410/Egypt-army-embarrassment-after-it-cures-Aids.html)), we found a way
-to determine just how Muslim your neighbor is (and how soon he'll blow your damned self up).
-oh boy....
-at Jihad Solutions we found a dragon-awesome way to quantify the amount of extremist enzymes
-present in the saliva (ewwww!!!!) of anyone. It works as follows: we know through our advanced tech how
-to dismantle the particles present in the saliva (ewwww!!!!)
-Everytime someone says "death to America"
-"the same line, totally terrifying"
-it leaves a teeny tiny cute little trace in its cells which can be read.
-Breathe easy can measure this trace easily, using a simple meter
-breathe easy can accurately measure the amount of radical enzymes
-from "like Hummus" to "supports Daesh".
-the readings are precise
-More accurate than a drone strike (which the Americans are pwning us with).
-simply have your friend blow into the damn breathe-easy, and you'll know
-to measure, pardon me, the unnecessary fear you have you idiot
-Hey slippers (just go with it), you mind?
-fine you stupid woman
-YAY!!
-totally sweet!
-Yay! Hummus (the Muslim lady: this woman is seriously stupid)
-I like Hummus! (no shit?)
-Now we can be friends! (I wish I were).
-Thanks breathe easy!
-Thanks a bunch breathe easy*
-This is poor manners and licentiousness man!
-I don't normally do this (I believe you...)
-Are you sure you're ready (seriously...)
-well yea! what, you think I'm here for Yoga? did you have tests? (does that boy have AIDS or what?)
-yeah, of course
-can you breathe into this
-God-damn it! fine!
-peace of mind is available for just five payments of $14.95 (don't try to convert that to Egyptian Pounds so you don't get pwned)
-So order now, and blow in their faces, so you know exactly their sect...**
-your turn sweety
-FUCK! you support Daesh you daughter of a bitch?!
-I opened one of their videos on facebook--only one I swear!
-(oh hello to Daesh!)
-order today!
-WARNING: the side effects of breath easy may include, but are not limited to: headache, tunnel vision, unexplained loss of friends, supporting Donald Trump, depression, isolation, Paranoia, eye burning***, looking like an underwear to your friends and neighbors, crying with a burn in the bathroom, loss of appetite, loss of work, the desire to raise the confederate flag (don't have to know that one), diarrhea of the mouth (DAMN!), and Anal leakage (DAMN again!)
-order in the next five minutes and we'll add Jihad Solution's home waterboarding kit for free!
-Total thanks Breathe Easy!
[/spoiler]

****can also mean insignificant, worthless, etc.
*sarcastically
**milla can refer to a religious party, a sect, or simply any group with a shared identity.
***going to hell
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on July 13, 2016, 01:18:28 AM
(https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/13600050_1568372080131729_1174516168675934739_n.jpg?oh=45064e8bbe296318bb7143515749b1f9&oe=582B6C18)

Word!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on July 17, 2016, 06:52:13 AM
Sort of a companion piece to my last Fail Quote:

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Myles tearing a strip off Rebecca Watson for lying in a Skepticon talk.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 08, 2016, 08:26:22 PM
Brace yourselves:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 09, 2016, 04:19:55 AM
"Forgotten were the elementary rules of logic, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."—Christopher Hitchens
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 18, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
(https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13962531_1182050698511805_7716713875016290186_n.jpg?oh=7cfa9b1a5995c7cda5d0527c141d08c0&oe=58462E9A)

"If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."—Henry Ford.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 10, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
And now for something different:

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Frankly, his explanation of Star Trek makes more sense than what the creator of the franchise had in mind...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 10, 2016, 10:58:56 PM
Looks like Adam Todd Brown of Cracked is willing to point out why gun control is a bad idea.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-dumbest-things-we-do-in-name-gun-control/
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2016, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 10, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
And now for something different:

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Frankly, his explanation of Star Trek makes more sense than what the creator of the franchise had in mind...
Wouldn't surprise me.
Remember, the difference between communism and socialism is purely semantic.  There is no difference.  Even Karl Marx used the two terms interchangeably.
And the difference between communism and fascism is inconsequential.  While a definite difference does indeed exist from the political scientist's point of view, the economic effects of both systems is indistinguishable.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 13, 2016, 06:07:10 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on September 11, 2016, 08:25:06 PM
Wouldn't surprise me.
Remember, the difference between communism and socialism is purely semantic.  There is no difference.  Even Karl Marx used the two terms interchangeably.
And the difference between communism and fascism is inconsequential.  While a definite difference does indeed exist from the political scientist's point of view, the economic effects of both systems is indistinguishable.

Not just the economic effects.  To the poor schmuck on the ground just trying to stay alive and as intact as possible, all authoritarian systems are pretty much indistinguishable beyond the window dressing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 17, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/

NOOO.  Well gee what took you so long to figure that one out dumbass?  Well thank you for your pompous non-apology anyway for wasting our fucking time dipshit.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 30, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
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This puts Skepticon down to, what, 39 attendees now?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 19, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
I'm absolutely loving my latest artwork...I'll show it here:

(for reference: these are all based on actual scenes from a mini series from 1978, called "The Devil's Crown". Yes, It's about the first three Plantagenets: Henry II, Richard I, and John--who has been a most gracious king...memewise):

Apparently, John won't even name his children after the two main candidates:

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(https://i.imgflip.com/1cmrwr.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1cmrwr)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

(https://i.imgflip.com/1cmruv.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1cmruv)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)[/spoiler]

my (cynical) take on "reforming" the two parties, and the election as a whole:

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(https://i.imgflip.com/1cmrsd.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1cmrsd)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
[/spoiler]

John just cutting to the point:

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What the political false dichotomy no doubt feels like to many Americans:

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(https://i.imgflip.com/1cmrqg.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1cmrqg)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)[/spoiler]

and my personal favorite--just for you guys (I won't share it anywhere else):
[spoiler](https://i.imgflip.com/1cmsx8.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1cmsx8)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 06, 2016, 05:55:58 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/zhrs5.jpg)

Looks like I only thought of that about nine months too late.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 09, 2016, 11:33:12 PM
And my God did the political discussion group I'm in have a field day with the election:

Some quotes (in no order):

Quote from: meSeriously, the absurdity of yesterday's events..*Dr. Art says here that he understands the election was bad*....No, not that Trump won--the fuckers at San Francisco passed a pop-tax! now how am I supposed to watch the golden gate bridge at dawn across the San Francisco Bay, drinking my Zuberfizz (http://www.zuberfizz.com/), to scratch it off my bucket list?! It's already expensive enough--how can I afford it now?!
(IRL I'm a bit of a pop connoisseur...)

Quote from: Dr. Art (don't know his last name)I don't like Trump, but the schadenfreude is great!
-he's referring the reaction of the Democrats (he voted Libertarian--Art that is).

Quote from: meAll that's left now is for Trump to pose like this (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Deweytruman12.jpg) to this (https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/0HNQU3h.b2q0s6w6ln5VZw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NzQ0O2g9OTcw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/4a69079391b511dd28053a6724c176f7)
(I was doing the poses as I was saying this; Dr. Art had printed a copy of that front page).

Quote from: EarlThe thing I noticed about Hillary's concession speech is that kept saying "constitutional democracy"--I so wanted to beat her up for saying this
*at that point I borrowed another guy's lanyard and drew it up like a hangman's noose, and pointed at it every time he mentioned Hillary.

QuoteThe happiness index is made of bullshit!
-Dr. Bill, in reply to a person playing devil's advocate about Singapore's quality of life balanced against its severe law code.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 12, 2016, 09:07:05 AM
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Here because of what he tries with MMS last.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 24, 2016, 09:00:42 AM
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If he can make his plan at 1:30 stick AT ALL he will be the first President I've ever heard of to reduce the quantity of regulations in force.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 11, 2016, 10:32:35 PM
"When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger"―Confucius

Confucius was underrated too. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on December 25, 2016, 03:13:35 AM
Well, I found another amazing parody for the season--solid competition to Lehrer's "A Christmas Carol", and "Hanukkah in Santa Monica":

[yt]I5IXlfJSEi4[/yt]

enjoy!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on December 25, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on December 25, 2016, 03:13:35 AM
Well, I found another amazing parody for the season--solid competition to Lehrer's "A Christmas Carol", and "Hanukkah in Santa Monica":

[yt]I5IXlfJSEi4[/yt]

enjoy!

Always loved that one!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_24494_5-reasons-trumps-immigration-plan-goddamn-mess.html
Okay, they try and shoe in some backhanded Hillary support and try to ass pull saying that Obama's deportations were focused on real criminals, instead of just being in wrong country, in a weak attempt to defend him having more deportations than any other president, but overall pretty good. :)

http://www.cracked.com/article_23872_6-dumb-myths-people-constantly-believe-about-immigration.html
#1 is awesome.  As is #2.  So far it seems like cracked actually knows what they're talking about.  To the point where I'd call both of those much more wins than fails. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
Since I'm on the subject of immigration:  http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-to-Argue-for-Immigration-Restrictions-555001819
A classic. :3

Adding to #10, a lot of people are using the being called "racist" bit as an iWin card.  To which I rightly respond: 

Because the glove fits, wear it.  Net migration from Mexico is negative and has been for YEARS now.  Most illegals are from China and India, with European and African illegal numbers growing fast as well. C'mon folks, just stupid do you think we are?! Between the wall, language/skin color profiling, you're talking about deporting brown Spanish speakers!  It's why you're going off about them, but not about African, European, or even Asian illegals.  Because they're black, white and yellow, not brown!  So if this ISN'T about race, you're doing it all wrong.

Roughly inspired by Shane's bit regarding race and the War on Terror, here:  http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-To-Argue-For-The-War-On-Terror-621662874
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 28, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me [also] remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"―Barry Goldwater, from his 1964 Republican Nominee Acceptance Speech.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on January 13, 2017, 09:05:58 AM
OK, these guys are wonderful musicians and great showmen.  Check out this:

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The music is that good, and the presentation is that cool, AND they have managed to be one of the biggest channels on YouTube (over 5 million subs) despite the fact that they only turn out one video, on average, every couple of months for the last few years.

Oh, and they STILL don't have the sequel to this video out, over five years later (although a couple months ago they said it is in the pipeline).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on December 26, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_24494_5-reasons-trumps-immigration-plan-goddamn-mess.html
Okay, they try and shoe in some backhanded Hillary support and try to ass pull saying that Obama's deportations were focused on real criminals, instead of just being in wrong country, in a weak attempt to defend him having more deportations than any other president, but overall pretty good. :)

http://www.cracked.com/article_23872_6-dumb-myths-people-constantly-believe-about-immigration.html
#1 is awesome.  As is #2.  So far it seems like cracked actually knows what they're talking about.  To the point where I'd call both of those much more wins than fails. :)

Even more interesting about that top article though: note the professions most represented by illegal immigrants!  Food related things like agriculture, fishing, hunting, and housing related stuff like construction.  So even IF Trump succeeds in getting them all out, all it would do is cripple those industries, making them MUCH more expensive (law of supply and demand is still a thing, last I checked, even for Republicans) and make the same working class Americans who voted for him that much worse off!
"Give a man enough rope, and he'll hang himself" applies here...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
"The antiwar left vacated when Obama took office.

The anti-corruption right disappeared when Trump became president.

Watch the light where roaches scatter."―Jeremy Harding, via Facebook
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on January 27, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
"If the president can have alternative facts, then I will follow alternative laws." —Sean Haugh
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 06, 2017, 10:55:17 PM
"Caught in an insoluble contradiction are those believers in the free market and private property who still uphold immigration barriers. They can do so only if they concede that the State is the owner of all property, but in that case they cannot have true private property in their system at all."—Rothbard, Man, Economy and State

Rothbard, kicking ass and taking names from the grave.  Gods, I miss him. T_T
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 07, 2017, 07:00:11 AM
I'll see your Rothbard and raise you Harry Browne:

"Yes, by all means, it is time to give the government more power. After all, it has done such a good job with the War on Drugs, the War on Illiteracy, the War on Poverty, and the so-called War on Terrorism. What we need is a Department of Immigration Security and a bigger budget--along with more power for immigration officers to invade private businesses looking for illegals, a national identity card, authority for policemen to stop anyone on the street to 'ask for your papers.' I'm sure that within two years, there won't be a single illegal immigrant left in America."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 08, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
Bork! RARF! D: D: Well played Shane!

Does that description of his also sound like East and/or Nazi Germany to you?  Knowing Browne, I suspect that was part of his point.

And speaking of Harry Browne, more awesomeness from him:
"Immigrants create demand rather than take jobs away

Four worries drive most of the opposition to immigration:
1) JOBS: A new immigrant brings with him a need for products and services-which his job gives him the money to buy. So the immigrant has no net effect on the competition for jobs or the level of wages. Immigrants don’t take jobs away from Americans. They increase the demand for labor and they help meet that demand.
2) WELFARE: The answer is to stop providing taxpayer-supported welfare to anyone-immigrant or citizen.
3) CULTURE: The answer to the culture problem isn’t to keep immigrants out, but to restore the America of free individuals, each responsible and self-governing. Immigrants will embrace our culture more quickly when government stops trying to dissolve it.
4) NOT ENOUGH ROOM: The US is still a country of wide open spaces. America could triple its population without our existing cities growing any faster than they do now.

Source: The Great Libertarian Offer, p.172-173 , Sep 9, 2000 "— http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Harry_Browne_Immigration.htm
^This is a special one.  It was the bit that helped convince our own Dave to no longer be anti-immigrant. X3

And since we're on the topic of Harry Browne: 

"A free country has no issue with people coming and going, but a welfare state is scared to death of every rich person who can get out and every poor person who can get in."— http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-to-Argue-for-Immigration-Restrictions-555001819

Semi-off topic, but all this hoopla over immigration reminds me of that one classic Simpsons episode where their mayor was caught in a huge spending scandal, and so he used the scapegoat/distraction of illegal immigrants.  And it totally worked.  As in, his scandal is not brought up for the rest of the episode (or series).  Why do I get the impression this kind of thing is happening now;  AND has happened many times before?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 09, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
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*Standing Ovation!*
I don't get the crap people throw at Milo.  He doesn't come off as "racist, sexist, Nazi, etc."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 12, 2017, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 09, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
[yt]Y-sX5JLwidE[/yt]
*Standing Ovation!*
I don't get the crap people throw at Milo.  He doesn't come off as "racist, sexist, Nazi, etc."

They're clearly afraid of what he'll say.

EDIT: and I put this here, if only because I can respect what he is doing here. He made a mistake, he owned up to it:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2017, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 12, 2017, 04:25:02 PM
They're clearly afraid of what he'll say.

EDIT: and I put this here, if only because I can respect what he is doing here. He made a mistake, he owned up to it:

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I heard a bit about that from Teal Deer, but, true to his name, couldn't be assed to watch the entire video.  I got the basic idea of what happened, but it's good to know Sargon owned up to it.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on January 26, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
"The antiwar left vacated when Obama took office.

The anti-corruption right disappeared when Trump became president.

Watch the light where roaches scatter."―Jeremy Harding, via Facebook

As sort of a spiritual sequel to the above:

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Something tells me Watson is going to be completely silent on all this expansion of govco now that Trump is doing it.  Just like conservatives were with both Bushes, Reagan, etc, and Liberals with Hillary, Obama, Bill Clinton, etc.  Same business as usual.  The pendulum swings in the opposite direction, but doesn't deviate from its pivot.

I still remember hearing of liberals back in the 60s and 70s.  Turns out, they didn't give a shit for anyone but themselves.  Certainly not for conservatives or libertarians.  Wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing with conservatives in the next decade or two, with libertarians still taking it like we always have. :(

That being said, his video, on the surface, makes sense.  You can't be both winners of the culture war (or, 'Will of We The People(TM)' as they like to call it) AND the counterculture at the same time.  Those two things are mutually exclusive, so pick one, liberals.
Just like the Conservative Christians who, back in the day, would say, "THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION!" and, "Halp! We am being oppressed! D:" Again, given that we're a democracy, those two are mutually exclusive.  Pick one.

By Paul Joseph Watson's logic, libertarianism is the original and ultimate counterculture, and until the state is dead and buried, will remain that way indefinitely.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2017, 06:33:53 PM
https://fee.org/articles/marx-the-man/

You know how we say communism killed 100 million people in the 20th century alone, not counting war?  Turns out, it was closer to about 200 million people.

Also, fair warning, lots of use of the n-word in that article.  Thankfully, it's only used when quoting Marx.  Calling him a massive piece of shit was an understatement.  He is so much like the Marxists and socialists of today.

This article also debunks the "good intentions" excuse of communists.  Given the playbook itself was mass murder, and repression.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2017, 10:17:52 PM
https://mises.org/blog/goal-socialists-socialism-%E2%80%94-not-prosperity Gods, so close to home, it fucking hurts. ;_;
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 15, 2017, 07:02:33 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 14, 2017, 06:33:53 PMYou know how we say communism killed 100 million people in the 20th century alone, not counting war?  Turns out, it was closer to about 200 million people.

I think the 100 million was just Mao.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 15, 2017, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 15, 2017, 07:02:33 AM
I think the 100 million was just Mao.

There's a lot of slop in that number, too.  The Great Leap Forward (of the damn CLIFF) might have starved a few as 23 million to death, or as many as 55 million, depending on who's estimates you take, so we've got one fairly short period in which the uncertainty is a full third of the estimate for the whole of Mao's rule.

To put Mao into historical perspective, he killed more Chinese people than the Plague.

And people in China mostly don't know about it.  The ones born afterwards mostly just know the ones who were young then are real assholes now, and it's not going to be a safe topic of inquiry, like any of the other crimes committed by the Party.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 20, 2017, 10:11:34 PM
"We all teach by example, whether we want to or not."―Anarchyball's Rasta Monkey:  https://www.facebook.com/855268567920407/photos/a.855368641243733.1073741828.855268567920407/1142177465896181/?type=3&theater

*Standing Ovation!* I just wish more people understood that. :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 22, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."―Lao Tzu
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 22, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 22, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."―Lao Tzu

I would have to disagree with that--at least with the romantic types of love.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on February 23, 2017, 03:13:07 AM
I put this here, since I recall Shane asked to see the video I mentioned, where Coughlan addresses MartinJWillet. It's not the original video, but it has a lot of elements that he brought up.

[yt]EadPP_N55O4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 23, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on February 22, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
I would have to disagree with that--at least with the romantic types of love.

It also doesn't sound like something he would have said. I'm calling mistranslation or misattribution.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 23, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 23, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
It also doesn't sound like something he would have said. I'm calling mistranslation or misattribution.
My source:  https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/lao_tzu.html
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 23, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 23, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
My source:  https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/lao_tzu.html

Yeah, BrainyQuote's not a good source for those. They don't seem to make any effort to verify them the way Wikiquote does.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on February 23, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 23, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
Yeah, BrainyQuote's not a good source for those. They don't seem to make any effort to verify them the way Wikiquote does.
I'll keep that in mind.  I thought it sounded nice...>.>;;; anyways...yeah.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on February 23, 2017, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on February 23, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
I'll keep that in mind.  I thought it sounded nice...>.>;;; anyways...yeah.

And I don't see anything like that in my copies of the Tao Te Ching, which is the only thing he wrote that survives. There might be a similar verse that got translated that way, but I don't see any obvious contenders.
Title: Fav q
Post by: JaniLak on February 27, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
My fav Doctor who music is the Peter Davison theme tune. I dont think he included the deleware themetune because that wasnt used in the Doctor Who series.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: AnCap Dave on February 28, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
[yt]wzx8Sr0F4NA[/yt]

Also, UrinatingTree's reply to someone else making a joke about "real socialism":

"If at first you don't succeed, it's not real socialism. Then you try it again, but it's not real socialism. Then you try it again, but it's not real socialism. Then you try it again, but it's not real socialism...."
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 01, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
[yt]WPPZ8wJJxVo[/yt]

More music with furry art posted, like I remember seeing a lot of ~10 years ago.

Between seeing videos like this, and early/mid 2000s era style anti-republican president parodies like this:

[yt]RCAbBnWm4LM[/yt]

It's been a very nostalgic last few weeks for me.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2017, 02:46:12 PM
And now, a satiee from Mad Science, Inc. let me show you its features! :P


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 06, 2017, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 04, 2017, 02:46:12 PM
And now, a satiee from Mad Science, Inc. let me show you its features! :P


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And TL;DR giving a good demonstration of just how unethical and projective this 'journalist' is:

[yt]3qSk7pDIFF8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: darkwriter00 on April 09, 2017, 01:48:18 PM
Already added the Emo Trump song to my YouTube playlist of politician parodies. Bad Lip Readings of the election debates are hysterical, and so are  some of schmoyho's Songify This ones.

I'll share an older gem. :D ROFL

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuegl6ob0Po[/yt]

And here are some quotes I really like, other than the one I inserted in my signature, from a new favorite song I discovered, by acoustic song writer Abby Green. It's titled "Statism"

"If we're always guided by other people's thoughts, what is the point of having our own?" - Anonymous

"A lot of people tend to use the term 'conspiracy theory' as a synonym for 'crazy rambling', which I consider a narrow perspective. To me, a theory means just a plausible thing yet to be confirmed or unconfirmed. That being said, let's proceed to the subject.

Questioning has an importance on itself, and it is independent of being right or wrong. Being able to doubt anything is a quality on itself, the only way to be close to the truth (or far from lies) is not believing blindly. Critical thinking is the only way to see things as they really are.

On matters of power and authority being against is the only thing that prevents us from being dominated. That is the importance of disbelief, having opposition, resistance, deciding for ourselves, what we want or not want. Never allow others decide for us what our lives will be."

- one of my friends had written this. Smart guy. Creative thinker! His name is Axel.


"We don't know we're in prison. Don't rattle our cage. Stuck in indecision - we don't wanna change! You can hide in the crowd, but you're still all alone. For crying out loud, you are stuck in the comfort zone! Stupid, selfish, and proud; trapped in the comfort zone!" - songwriter Ariel AZ Alexander (He is a musician I discovered last year on YouTube, during an occasional searching for songs with nuggets of truth in them. I have saved at least 10 of his songs on mp3 by now! :D He's written 2 songs about phony lamestream media, some philosophical songs, and other songs about politics.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: BlameThe1st on April 12, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Perhaps one of the worst things about the Trump administration and Trump supporters is that they're making people who are otherwise wrong about everything right about something.

Like Paul Krugman (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/opinion/publicity-stunts-arent-policy.html?_r=1):

QuoteOne thing is certain: The media reaction to the Syria strike showed that many pundits and news organizations have learned nothing from past failures.

Mr. Trump may like to claim that the media are biased against him, but the truth is that they've bent over backward in his favor. They want to seem balanced, even when there is no balance; they have been desperate for excuses to ignore the dubious circumstances of his election and his erratic behavior in office, and start treating him as a normal president.

You may recall how, a month and a half ago, pundits eagerly declared that Mr. Trump "became the president of the United States today" because he managed to read a speech off a teleprompter without going off script. Then he started tweeting again.

One might have expected that experience to serve as a lesson. But no: The U.S. fired off some missiles, and once again Mr. Trump "became president." Aside from everything else, think about the incentives this creates. The Trump administration now knows that it can always crowd out reporting about its scandals and failures by bombing someone.

Or Robert Reich (https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/851866358333624320):

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Jv42HV0AAMGBR.jpg)

When you make Krugman and Reich right about anything, you know you've done messed up!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Daofather on April 15, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: Dick MastersonThe middle east is a boat that I dunno, Eisenhower bought? and for some reason... every president thinks that they're going to fix this boat up...
Bush goes in, he's like "all we need is a new shell; and a new engine; and a new upholstery; and a new life vest; and a new tow rope; and a new trailer: that's all we need. that's all we need, and we're gonna do it." so he sends trillions of dollars there. Boat doesn't get fucking fixed.
...
Trump said "I'm not dumping any more money into this boat." Bush couldn't fix it, Obama tried to parley the boat to another boat, Obama tried to get us TWO BOATS! He goes "Bush fucked up the boat that we had, so I'm going to trade this boat we have with a guy I know for two boats. So the odds that one of those boats works is better than one boat working." So now Obama's got two boats, neither of those fucking work. Now we've got to fix two boats.

Trumps whole campaign was "I'm no longer fixing boats" NO MORE BOATS! WE'RE GOING TO FIX OUR HOUSE!
Day fucking 70, what's he doing?, he's eyeing that boat.
We're like "No mister Trump, don't eye that boat, just let it sit in the yard, it's okay"
and he's going
"Ehh... I dunno, I think I could fix that boat; chemicals are leaking out of the tank; they're fucking up the yard; I gotta do something about that" and we're like
"NO MISTER TRUMP! It's okay! Just let the chemicals leak out! There's chemicals all over the place! That part of the yard doesn't matter, there's whole sections of the yard called Africa where there's no grass at all! Where 900 kids die every fucking day because they're not getting water. Ignore the chemicals dripping out of the fucking boat.
...
You know what the best thing to do with the boat is? Trump goes out to the yard, takes the boat, rolls it across the street.
"HEY RUSSIA! I'VE GOT A FREE BOAT! FREE BOAT!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-wJDktJ20A
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 27, 2017, 07:48:01 PM
It dawns on me: to revere a country's leader, is to make him an idol--to worship a man. Is this why so many people support Trump? that, in a strange way, men worship each other?

OK, wasn't my idea. It was the idea of the guy who did this:

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Here we see the King of Morocco being greeted by his subjects (servants at court and the like). The person who uploaded the video brilliantly dubbed over a pre-Islamic chant, of the tribe of 'akk.

A similar dub--this time of Egyptians going around a picture of al-sisi...I'll leave you to figure out what this reminds me of:

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Here are the lyrics:

[spoiler]
"we are the two crows (blacks) of 'akk
'akk comes to you in submission
your yemeni servants
so we may go on pilgrimage again"

There's also a refrain, that goes like this:

"we have heeded your call Oh Hubal
we have heeded you filled with hope
praise to you! thanks to you! all to you! we submit to you!"[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 10, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
"Your car is Japanese. Your Vodka is Russian. Your pizza is Italian. Your kebab is Turkish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your movies are American. Your Beers are German. Your shirt is Indian. Your oil is Saudi Arabian. Your electronics are Chinese. Your numbers -Arabic, your letters -Latin. And you complain that your neighbor is an immigrant?"

Posted from our own Dave, a while back in the unnamed fallacy thread. n.n
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on May 22, 2017, 02:40:14 PM
If other members can post their own shit, so can I.  Here be three pieces I've worked very hard on and am very proud of:

http://travisretriever.deviantart.com/journal/On-the-Bogosity-of-Intellectual-Property-662692570

http://travisretriever.deviantart.com/journal/Art-Commission-ToS-680989142

http://travisretriever.deviantart.com/journal/KampferWolf-Exposed-681029646
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 29, 2017, 01:19:18 PM
Two instances of trolling of SJW's.

Firstly, we have Sargon trolling the SPLC by reporting an instance of hatespeech against Kekistanis...by the SPLC.

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And a very long examination by TL;DR of an epic fake gender studies paper in the style of the 1996 Sokal trolling of Social Text (complete with fake researcher names, a fake research organization, and fake references to fake papers in fake journals generated by the Postmodern Generator, a website created years ago that spews out an algorithmically generated fake social science paper using a method based on Sokal's every time it's reloaded) published in what is claimed to be a respectable social science journal, after a review that was claimed to include a careful check of references.

[yt]Q0MLyFHTSu4[/yt]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on May 29, 2017, 01:19:18 PM
Two instances of trolling of SJW's.

Firstly, we have Sargon trolling the SPLC by reporting an instance of hatespeech against Kekistanis...by the SPLC.

[yt]NvzCHVOWYuc[/yt]

And a very long examination by TL;DR of an epic fake gender studies paper in the style of the 1996 Sokal trolling of Social Text (complete with fake researcher names, a fake research organization, and fake references to fake papers in fake journals generated by the Postmodern Generator, a website created years ago that spews out an algorithmically generated fake social science paper using a method based on Sokal's every time it's reloaded) published in what is claimed to be a respectable social science journal, after a review that was claimed to include a careful check of references.

[yt]Q0MLyFHTSu4[/yt]
The first one is pure win.  Seriously, fuck the SPLC. 
The second one had me fooled.  I didn't watch the video, so I thought it was a real study when I first saw it on his channel!  Poe's Law strikes yet again!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 04, 2017, 05:21:14 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on June 03, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
The first one is pure win.  Seriously, fuck the SPLC. 
The second one had me fooled.  I didn't watch the video, so I thought it was a real study when I first saw it on his channel!  Poe's Law strikes yet again!

The SPLC is quite a piece of work, I'll agree.

Reading the comments to the article TL;DR worked from is instructive.  There are a lot of people trying to condemn the paper's authors on some vague basis that they didn't troll gender studies because the journal they submitted it to didn't publish it because it was detected to be nonsense.  The problem with that claim is that it cannot be correct as they referred the paper to another journal.  The policy indicates that simply not being able to understand a paper isn't grounds for rejecting the paper, so a paper being intentional nonsense isn't going to get it rejected as long as it looks like it should be coherent if you know what it's talking about.  There were LOTS of excellent grounds for rejecting the paper (the fact that the authors, their organization, and many of the cited papers and the journals they appeared in simply don't exist and can be easily verified to not exist all being excellent reasons), they didn't actually check any of them.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 07, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."—Frédéric Bastiat
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Altimadark on June 08, 2017, 01:29:28 AM
Had this one in my Twitter feed recently enough:

"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics." -- Thomas Sowell

This is the sort of thing which cannot be taught enough times. Opportunity cost and whatnot.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 19, 2017, 11:25:11 AM
As usual for Blaire, the whole video is made of win, but the bit I like best is at 4:28.

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It is so nice to know I'm not the only person who thinks that.  The real question is when will it dawn on the other SJWs that he might be doing that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 15, 2017, 04:40:32 PM
OK, I just finished watching the video of Ben Shapiro's talk at Berkley last night.  As per usual, pretty good stuff, for the most part.  (Well, yes, there's things I disagree with him on, but that's no big deal.

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What's got me to put it here is the last thing the last person in the Q&A session said.  Did it just sound to you like he used the opportunity to try and get Lauren Southern's phone number?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 05, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 22, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
And proving just how inept the UK government is when it comes to the internet...

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/300-million-polar-ship-could-be-named-boaty-mcboatface-/65277/ (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/300-million-polar-ship-could-be-named-boaty-mcboatface-/65277/)

They ask on the internet for suggestions for their new, extremely advanced research icebreaker.  The leading name is 'Boaty McBoatface', with two others (Usain Boat and Its Bloody Cold Here) being almost as silly.

I suspect they might select one of the more conventional entries, like David Attenboroug or Henry Worsley, but we can hope for Pillar Of Autumn.

And an update on Moaty McBoatface:  As I suspected, they named the ship the Sir David Attenborough, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface)

They did name the lead vessel of the small fleet of Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUVs) this ship is to carry the Boaty McBoatface.

It's too bad that Iain M. Banks is gone, he was fond of using humorous names to poke fun at people, like critics who said his books lacked 'gravitas', so he had  bunch of ships in his next book with names about not having gravitas.  I think he would have found it quite ammusing, and probably have put a reference to it in a book.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 09, 2017, 12:18:10 AM
Quote from: evensgrey on November 05, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
And an update on Moaty McBoatface:  As I suspected, they named the ship the Sir David Attenborough, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface)

They did name the lead vessel of the small fleet of Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUVs) this ship is to carry the Boaty McBoatface.

It's too bad that Iain M. Banks is gone, he was fond of using humorous names to poke fun at people, like critics who said his books lacked 'gravitas', so he had  bunch of ships in his next book with names about not having gravitas.  I think he would have found it quite ammusing, and probably have put a reference to it in a book.

Personally, I would have preferred naming the boat Richard Attenborough, and the lead AUV "Lauderdale" (since that would be--at least to me--as farcical as what actually happened).


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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."—Tyrion
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 04, 2017, 03:54:46 PM
Wherein Sargon admits to an entirely understandable error in assuming a video critical of the Alt-Right was false-flagged by the Alt-Right instead of the Eastern European leftist it apparently was false flagged by...


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...and then straight up calls out the Alt-Right for acting indistinguishably from the SJWs (and why would they be distinguishable, identity politics is identity politics).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 11, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
Since we're close to the 40th anniversary of it as I write this, here's a little something Carl Sagan did before Cosmos:

[yt-list]PLzEZRwmmqC4FTciK3pyF2JsuSFyiysVYM[/yt-list]

And shame on the Royal Institution for, as far as I can tell, not having these on their own channel, AND not having playlists for the Christmas Lectures series that they do have up on their own channel.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on February 27, 2018, 10:57:10 AM
Here's a nifty video from Louis Rossmann (who owns a little hole-in-the-wall shop in NYC that does component-level repair on modern electronics, mostly Apple products that Apple won't fix) showing what kind of company VICE is using their abuse of Jordan Peterson and the horrendous contract they tried to foist on him a couple of years back.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 07, 2018, 10:28:27 PM
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Props to the spectators and security having the balls to put a stop to Antifa's antics this time around.  Now if university police everywhere did their job rounded up these nutters.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 08, 2018, 07:53:14 AM
Police NEVER do their jobs. This audience has it right. Defend yourselves; don't wait for government to do it for you.

Now if that had been a LIBERTARIAN conference at a place that allows guns...
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 11, 2018, 05:37:50 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 07, 2018, 10:28:27 PM
[yt]HPj3CyBJrIE[/yt]

Props to the spectators and security having the balls to put a stop to Antifa's antics this time around.  Now if university police everywhere did their job rounded up these nutters.

Nothing says: "Happy birthday, Ibrahim!" than people getting into a good fight :D

sorry: Arab Hill-billy side showing XD
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 12, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 11, 2018, 05:37:50 PM
Nothing says: "Happy birthday, Ibrahim!" than people getting into a good fight :D

sorry: Arab Hill-billy side showing XD

This made me realize how much the Arab and Hillbilly stereotypes have in common:  Stupid, poor religious fanatics who get into multi-generational blood feuds over entirely inconsequential things.  The biggest difference is Hillbillies are also pictured as frequently drunk, which only rich Arabs get pictured as.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 12, 2018, 04:38:17 PM
And another one from Big Clive.

This time, he's playing about with a an electric cattle prod.

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And, being Big Clive, of course he has to try it out on bare skin (after discovering it won't go through his clothing).  The fact it won't go through his clothing makes me wonder how well those things actually work on animals, which tend to be covered in clothing-like materials.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 12, 2018, 05:27:22 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 12, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
This made me realize how much the Arab and Hillbilly stereotypes have in common:  Stupid, poor religious fanatics who get into multi-generational blood feuds over entirely inconsequential things.  The biggest difference is Hillbillies are also pictured as frequently drunk, which only rich Arabs get pictured as.

Well, the multi-generational blood feuds do happen among the bedu and the rural folk, and poverty is common. :shrug:

Anyway, I'm really referring to this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/palestinians-fight-back-with-bitter-laughter-1574945.html

Hebronites are seen by other Palestinians the way people in America see the Poles or Hillbillies, or the English see the Welsh or something.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 15, 2018, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 12, 2018, 05:27:22 PM
Well, the multi-generational blood feuds do happen among the bedu and the rural folk, and poverty is common. :shrug:

Anyway, I'm really referring to this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/palestinians-fight-back-with-bitter-laughter-1574945.html

Hebronites are seen by other Palestinians the way people in America see the Poles or Hillbillies, or the English see the Welsh or something.

Jokes about the Welsh told by the English include a few categories not normally included in Pole (or, in Canada, Newfie [resident or native of the island of New Foundland]) jokes, mostly having to do with sheep.  (Incidentally, while Pole and Newfie jokes are usually just swapping the term for the subject group, Pole jokes have a nasty bite to them usually absent in Newfie jokes, as Pole jokes conventionally use the pejorative term Pollack, while Newfie isn't considered pejorative.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 15, 2018, 01:43:05 PM
An interesting (if you can stand a lengthy reading of a legal filing) bit from Lawful Masses with Leonard French:

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The short version, a defense attorney in numerous copyright violation cases has found a pattern of apparently fabricated companies and technical experts in numerous copyright cases.  The sort of falsehoods which certainly sounds like the kind of thing that leads to attorneys being lucky if they ONLY get disbarred for it.

If it does lead back to where Mr. French thinks it does, it could be even worse for copyright claimants than the decision that investigators and their employers needed to be licensed as Private Investigators in the relevant jurisdictions (since this could, potentially, lead to criminal charges).  Courts REALLY don't like it when you lie to them in order to introduce evidence from a source that has already been ruled inadmissible under the current circumstances.  (The suspected true source is a German company that US courts are reluctant to allow evidence from.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 17, 2018, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 12, 2018, 04:38:17 PMAnd, being Big Clive, of course he has to try it out on bare skin (after discovering it won't go through his clothing).  The fact it won't go through his clothing makes me wonder how well those things actually work on animals, which tend to be covered in clothing-like materials.

That looks different to the one we used, but it DEFINITELY had an effect. Cows did NOT like it. And it was MUCH more annoying to them than being poked with a stick.

Also, if they can be shocked by an electric fence (and they CAN), why wouldn't a cattle prod work?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 16, 2018, 03:47:25 PM
OK, a really nice and clever picture that brings somebody who's death got overshadowed back in:

(http://www.windsorstar.com/news/ottawa/cms/binary/17274335.jpg?size=sw620x65)

So, this takes some background, most of which you can get at the page the picture came from:

http://www.windsorstar.com/news/ottawa/kanata%20author%20illustration%20honour%20pitre%20humboldt%20goes%20viral/17274334/story.html (http://www.windsorstar.com/news/ottawa/kanata%20author%20illustration%20honour%20pitre%20humboldt%20goes%20viral/17274334/story.html)

Pitre is Johnathan Pitre, who was Canadian, and recently died of complications from an experimental treatment for [wiki]Epidermolysis_bullosa[/wiki].  EB had prevented him from playing any sports, and he always had wanted to play hockey.

The Humbolt Broncos are a Canadian junior hockey team who were on a bus trip to a playoff game two days after Johnathan's death when there was a horrific crash with a semi.  Of the 29 people on the bus, 15 died at the scene and a 16th has since died in hospital.

Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 17, 2018, 10:50:46 AM
Here's a kind of interesting thing I ran across while looking for a different statute, 18 U.S. Code § 1507 - Picketing or parading:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1507 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1507)

QuoteWhoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

Doesn't that sound like the EXACT intentions of BAMN when they show up at a courthouse where a hearing about the mandating of racism is occurring?  How does it come to pass that none of them ever end up in prison for that?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on April 17, 2018, 12:15:31 PM
I'm just wondering how it passes First Amendment muster. Also, what does "influencing" mean? It sounds like the thing they use to stop people passing out FIJA fliers.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 17, 2018, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 17, 2018, 12:15:31 PM
I'm just wondering how it passes First Amendment muster. Also, what does "influencing" mean? It sounds like the thing they use to stop people passing out FIJA fliers.

I suspect that it is the law they use to stop people passing out FIJA fliers (in those jurisdictions that don't have laws specifically have laws recognizing Nullification, as some states do).

It is generally the case that provisions of the 1st Amendment are not held to immunize actions that would fall under criminal statutes if conducted by different means.  There are other sections that cover other means of attempting to improperly affecting various officials and witnesses, and are usually stronger in their wording.

"Influencing" is usually pretty obvious from what the demonstrators are saying, doing, and have put on their signs.  Note that even violence doesn't seem to get this law actually applied, even in instances when it is quite clear what the rioters are trying to do, as is usually the case when BAMN riots outside a court hearing.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 28, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
Unlike my previous drunken rant on SCP-3999, this is SCP-3900, which is really, REALLY funny (and, I suppose, could be considered frightening if you look at it the right way, theoretically the SCP foundation is a horror site):

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[spoiler]Router's WiFi signal summons wolves when the full moon is up, wolf bites man, man begins to emit WiFi-like signals, man bites second man, second man begins emitting WiFi-like signals, second man bites wolf, wolf begins emitting WiFi-like signals and summons WiFi routers when the full moon is up![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 02, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 17, 2018, 01:27:52 PM
That looks different to the one we used, but it DEFINITELY had an effect. Cows did NOT like it. And it was MUCH more annoying to them than being poked with a stick.

Also, if they can be shocked by an electric fence (and they CAN), why wouldn't a cattle prod work?

Sheep apparently are rather a different matter.  They're notorious for ignoring electric fencing (unless recently shorn) due to their wool being an excellent insulator.  (Notice the type of shirt Big Clive is wearing in the video is conventionally made of wool.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on May 02, 2018, 04:36:16 PM
A most excellent speech by Sargon yesterday:

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It is interesting that I can hardly tell the difference between the messages Sargon and Stephan are putting out these days.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 07, 2018, 10:07:03 AM
Excellent mirco-critiques of stupid firearm accessories (including two that allow you to attach a pistol to a rifle or shotgun):

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[spoiler]
Oh my god...a set of testicles you can install on a gun.

On the other hand, a stock with a compartment to carry a cleaning kit for the rifle or shotgun it's on sounds quite convenient, particularly if it's a gun you don't use often and/or requires something out of the ordinary in the cleaning kit.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 06, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
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Nice to see Rebel Media got their Gold Play Button.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 02, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
Tim Pool from a few days ago:

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This is what happens when even a center-leftist actually looks at the data and declares that yes, capitalism is a good thing since it does so much good for so many people.

Here's the article he's working from:

https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts (https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts)

I think this site has come up before.   Lots of good and useful stuff there.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 03, 2018, 08:52:53 AM
When George Carlin quote were being added to this thread, this one seems to have been missed:

"Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be manners."  -George Carlin
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 10, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
And from Louis Rossmann (who, incidentally, is boosting the Libertarian candidate for NY Governor), borrowed from CBC News (who actually did a pro-consumer piece for a change):

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On camera, getting an Apple employee to quote $1200+ for a repair Louis would do for free.  And without generating large quantities of e-waste.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 19, 2018, 02:09:55 PM
Ahmed Al-messad's video is glorious!

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it starts with the title: "planet Pot will slam into planet Earth"

It's his reply to a video from an Egyptian guy who's clearly on pot, where he says that the WWE predicted that a planet will slam into our own. Translation would take forever--he says a lot, but I'll just leave you with the start:

"
Quotecheers! feel at ease! Things have worked out for you "la-la"! You've lived your lives waiting for this night!!! By God I'm happy today guys!

Abu Fijl (lit. "father of radishes"): what's the matter? (basically)

What's the matter? well here, come, come take this wallet of mine, a gift from me to you! All my money to you! and my sunglasses which I have about me, I'll give them to you, too. And take these slippers, from me to you I give. Good people, I'm happy! I feel guys like I'm at a wedding!

Abu Fijl: Well, you know more than me: is it your wedding?


Whose wedding, you lowlife?! you're looking at me like I'm going to marry you! Well, you've done ill! I don't resort to desperate acts, abu fijle!". And anyway these are not mine, but rather, these slippers I bequeath to you. I want to bequeath all my possessions to you. These slippers are from my great-great-great-grandfather, bunga-bunga. He bequeathed them to me when  was little, and then I grew up, and the moment I have longed for has finally come. So these slippers I consider to have bequeathed to you, and they are now yours. Catch! They aren't to come back, abu fijl. I entrust them to you, so take them already, and relieve me of them, God damn your parents (lit. "those who blew into you")!

Anyway, once you get these slippers, you can go on instagram and write you're honored to have theese!

Abu Fijl: so why are you bequeathing everything, and are wearing a Tarha?


What, man?


Abu Fijl: the Tarha! Tarha!

you Billygoat, this isn't a Tarha, it's a shroud! Thank God, guys! The one who perseveres will get what he desires! And finally, the day I awaited has come! thanks O Lord! Thanks O Lord!


Abu Fijl: and what will happen to you today?

Dude, a large plane twill slam into us, and will rid us of this shitty life! Heaven protect! I've truly become happy, by God...Oh, wait, where you going, good people? before we get flattened and die, when the planet falls on us and squish us, don't forget to give this video 150K likes!



Some highlights

QuoteWell, I know WWE is a wrestling organization, but I trust them. Now, had it been WWF, I'd be more skeptical

QuoteYes, the WWE has established wrestling rings on Mars

Quote3aa-3a is this city they founded on Mars, it's really lovely and they built it to look like a toilet

Quote"here, let me drink down all this marijuana after you, so I can reach your level of comprehension

QuoteThis isn't a warning that a planet will collide with us! it's a commercial for pot! the Netherlands should adopt you!

QuoteI'm not sure what you're saying, but I totally agree with you

QuoteYou're absolutely right! Yeah, a lot of what you say is contradictory and makes no sense, but it's still right! it's like the Arab rulers, they issue contradictory edicts, then when confronted, say these are individual edicts, and then proceed to punish the low-level civil servants

QuoteThis kid reminds me of my school days, I'd go to an exam, and I wouldn't dream of leaving the test paper empty, so I'd fill it with everything from east to west, and I know I'll get zero cubed, and yet somehow I get it back the next day, and I find I made 11 out of 20; how did I come up with that, I have no idea. Finish your video big-shot!

QuoteWhy? What would be your problem, if the planet slams into us? My God you're a weirdo! Best not to tire me of you! I mean, is it conceivable That you have a problem? Dude, a blessing's coming on to you, and you refuse it?! What's your problem at the end of time? A planet wide and long, with mustaches like that of that one guy at the end of the alleyway, is coming to this shameful planet, and is going to slam into you and the God-damn retards who brought you into this world, and you have a problem? Why? Tell us, professor!

QuoteSo you're worried that it'll interfere with your travel plans?

QuoteOK I have a suggestion, Major-General--big shot: I say, we gather all people to one side of the Earth. We then spin the Earth around like a Hamster does, till it pops out of place. Then it'll veer off course, and the other plane twill not bump into us. It'll just slam into another planet instead. I just wished it'll take you out though.

QuoteThey shouldn't put you away as part of the war on Drugs--it fall under the Vice Squad. Why? because you raped my mind! You raped my entire though pattern!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on October 20, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 19, 2018, 02:09:55 PM
Ahmed Al-messad's video is glorious!

[yt]DERcZ6elu3w[/yt]

it starts with the title: "planet Pot will slam into planet Earth"

It's his reply to a video from an Egyptian guy who's clearly on pot, where he says that the WWE predicted that a planet will slam into our own. Translation would take forever--he says a lot, but I'll just leave you with the start:

"
Some highlights

I am curious as to where the original commercial is from.  Canada legalized recreational weed three days ago, and there's private retailers in at least one Province.  (The law changed at local midnight, so it was legal first in Newfoundland And Labrador.  There was a shop in Saint John's that opened right at midnight to sell the first legal recreational pot in Canada.  The guy who bought it told the media he was going to frame it as a historical artifact.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on October 20, 2018, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on October 20, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
I am curious as to where the original commercial is from.  Canada legalized recreational weed three days ago, and there's private retailers in at least one Province.  (The law changed at local midnight, so it was legal first in Newfoundland And Labrador.  There was a shop in Saint John's that opened right at midnight to sell the first legal recreational pot in Canada.  The guy who bought it told the media he was going to frame it as a historical artifact.)

Well, all these lines were sarcastic to an extent: I mean, you'd be a walking pot advertisement too if you thought a WWE preview was real news..

as to the original WWE commercial? not sure. Let me look and see. EDIT: yeah, I can't find anything matching what the Egyptian dude said.

Anyway, another (this has English closed captions):

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Another captioned one:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 04, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
OK, Louis Rossmann finally did it:

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A 16:30 video about his adorable cats.  Not as epic as his recent screed about how he's going to cost Apple one hundred thousand times what they're costing him with their screwing around with Customs, but pretty cool.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 04, 2018, 08:21:13 PM
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@ 8:42: Palestinians are protesting Mahmoud Abbas' plans for a social security program (the West Bank is one of the few places without it). This by itself is win, but then Nicolas Khoury explains the problem in more detail:

QuoteOf course, you'll ask me what the problem is, Nicolas, with the legislation. I don't know how long I have to sit here and explain everything to you, but OK--I'll tell you my problem with this legislation:

1-We all know that in the Arab World, social security is so government can take you money from you, because it is "afraid for you", and and wishes to guarantee your future and your retirement. This is just like when your mom takes your 3eediyye, so she could "save it", and give it to you when you grow up. DID ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY GET THAT MONEY ONCE YOU GREW UP?! At least she's still you mom--she still loves you and actually cares about you.

2-The Palestinian Authority has not implemented the labor laws, yet wishes to implement Social Security. It's a lot like they want to take your money, so as to buy you a car-horn, even though you don't have a car.

3-Every few days, the PA comes and threatens to disband itself. So who is to say you won't close, and take the box with you? I mean the one for social security, not the ballot--that they took a long time ago...

4-This law only encompasses Natural Causes. The law in PALESTINE only encompasses Natural Causes. You remind me of the days of the occupation, WHEN THEY WISHED THEY DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES!



Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 15, 2018, 12:40:44 AM
I think Shane in Particular will like this, in light of the grief he got over his immigration videos:

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Whatever your thoughts on Shaun are personally, got to say: he got this one nailed down.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 29, 2018, 11:52:31 PM
From Lindybeige, a YouTuber who makes (mostly) historical videos.  This one, however, is about Evolutionary Psychology.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 01, 2019, 07:49:47 PM
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I mean, seriously, what more do I need to say?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on March 09, 2019, 11:44:24 PM
J.P. Beaubien of  "Terrible Writing Advice" on Megacorporations:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 23, 2019, 10:48:38 PM
Another one with Big Clive doing something fundamentally stupid.

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Yes, he's (slightly) electrocuting himself to see if he can let go.  (As I understand it, the voltage is critical here.  The mains voltage in North America is 110-125 volts, which causes stronger muscle contractions than the 220-250 volts used in much of the rest of the world.  Clive, who works with this stuff all the time, as he works with things like event lighting, says in the video that the higher currents of a 240V arm-to-arm shock makes it less dangerous because it's less likely to put you into lethal ventricular fibrillation if something or someone gets you off the shock.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on March 25, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
In the "It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy" file...

I was perusing Glenn Greenwald's twitter timeline and happened upon his retweek of this gem from The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/michael-avenatti-extortion-arrested-charged-nike?CMP=twt_gu (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/michael-avenatti-extortion-arrested-charged-nike?CMP=twt_gu)

Michael Avenatti has been arrested for trying (and FAILING) to extort Nike.  Recall, this is the guy who helped Stormy Daniels to try and sue Donald Trump, which he lost so hard SHE had to pay HIS lawyer.

It seems this guy is just a cyclone of fail.  This seems almost certain to have already been in progress when New Your prosecutors decided not to pursue felony abuse charges against him.  They may have decided this would be just as effective and a whole lot easier to prove.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on March 25, 2019, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on March 25, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
In the "It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy" file...

I was perusing Glenn Greenwald's twitter timeline and happened upon his retweek of this gem from The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/michael-avenatti-extortion-arrested-charged-nike?CMP=twt_gu (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/michael-avenatti-extortion-arrested-charged-nike?CMP=twt_gu)

“When lawyers use their law licenses as weapons as a guise to extort payments for themselves, they are no longer acting as attorneys. They are acting as criminals.” Wow, doesn't this sound like every copyright infringement lawyer ever?
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 08, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
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Warren Buffet being called out (indirectly).

The guy goes claiming that he wants to help America, yet can't be bothered to help his own tenants.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 20, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
Another one from Big Clive.  This time he isn't doing anything stupid to see what happens.  It's tales of Glasgow's George Square Christmas lights.

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He includes a bunch of stuff about the politics of how the classic lights ended.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on April 20, 2019, 01:43:54 PM
Two in one day!  (Yes, I'm a week behind in my YouTube videos.  I've been busy.)

Dave Jones chatting with vintage electronics hobbyist and winner of the 2005 Nobel Prize for Medicine Dr. Barry Marshal!

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This is the guy who swallowed a suspension of the bacteria that cause stomach ulcers in order to prove that they really do that.  This has eliminated almost everything except a cocktail of antibiotics and antacids as the treatment of stomach ulcers which, unlike the older treatments, actually works.  As stomach ulcers can lead to stomach cancer, his work has saved many people al over the world from a lifetime of misery terminated with an extremely unpleasant death.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on May 06, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
Legal Eagle breaks down the Sokovia accords from the MCU:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 20, 2019, 11:29:14 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on May 06, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
Legal Eagle breaks down the Sokovia accords from the MCU:

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I'm now hooked on his channel. Owe you one!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 20, 2019, 08:54:02 PM
The Joe Show made a video on Morsi's death. For once, he cut the comedy (which is normally what he does--well), and instead cut to the point: Morsi--for all his faults--stood for something: the hope and opportunity for a better future in Egypt: he was, afterall, a civilian elected in a free and fair election. That he was an asshole doesn't mean one shouldn't take pleasure in his death, nor try to cover up the obvious torture and mistreatment he underwent in his confinement.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 20, 2019, 09:57:42 PM
The part about Hitler thinking he was saving the world alone is worthy of a favorite quote. Everything from TIK cracking up when he points this out, to the music, to his continuing to point out the dangers of getting your premise wrong:

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on June 21, 2019, 12:13:53 PM
I was perusing the Log of Unexplained Locations on the SCP wiki, and I ran across this hillarious one:

http://www.scp-wiki.net/log-of-unexplained-locations/p/1#16 (http://www.scp-wiki.net/log-of-unexplained-locations/p/1#16)

This is a sound stage dressed precisely as you would dress a sound stage to make a fake moon landing video...ON THE SURFACE OF THE MOON!  That's absolutely BRILLIANT!  (Yes, the writter misnamed a key item, but the intent is clear enough).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on June 21, 2019, 08:05:00 PM
See the conqu'ring hero come!

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He and a handful of others have all helped to bring down a poisoning ring in Uganda: I hope Myles' efforts will continue to yield success, and bring justice about for the victims!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on July 11, 2019, 06:37:29 PM
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I mean, that's all I got. It's that impressive!
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on July 18, 2019, 12:42:54 AM
TRIGGER WARNING: They don't work (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2167702619827018)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: MrBogosity on July 18, 2019, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on July 18, 2019, 12:42:54 AM
TRIGGER WARNING: They don't work (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2167702619827018)

Yeah, I covered that on the podcast.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on July 20, 2019, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 18, 2019, 07:16:01 AM
Yeah, I covered that on the podcast.

Darn, still makes good joke though :)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on August 26, 2019, 11:28:52 AM
I found this through Sargon's Telegram feed:

https://humanevents.com/2019/08/21/the-real-history-of-gamergate/ (https://humanevents.com/2019/08/21/the-real-history-of-gamergate/)

It's quite useful that it's on humanevents.com, as WikiPedia accepts that as a reliable source.  I think they're going to have trouble suporting their ideological slant without a serious purge.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 01, 2019, 07:44:57 AM
There's some fascinating books out there.

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Real-world examination of the effects of socialism, including what it does to the beer.  (Venezuela no longer makes bad beer.  Venezuela no longer makes beer, because they cannot pay to import barley, which is hard to grow in the tropics.  Their former beer is brewed in Florida now, and it's crap.)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on September 20, 2019, 01:54:39 AM
Government employees thinks the the general public increasingly hates them ...
They're right (https://reason.com/2019/09/19/government-employees-think-people-hate-them-increasingly-theyre-right/)
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on September 27, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on September 20, 2019, 01:54:39 AM
Government employees thinks the the general public increasingly hates them ...
They're right (https://reason.com/2019/09/19/government-employees-think-people-hate-them-increasingly-theyre-right/)

I find it interesting that the actual numbers they quote show that Republican-aligned people are dislike the government agencies they dislike to a lesser degree than Democrat-aligned people dislike the agencies hey dislike.

I would like to know if the IRS is now more strongly disliked than Time-Warner Cable.  They didn't used to be, but that was before the Obama administration began portraying the IRS as being filled with people who actively and spontaneously misuse their positions for partisan political purposes (this being their claim as to how numerous IRS agents began to work against Conservative political movements all over the US all at the same time, without any apparent orders to do so).
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on October 08, 2019, 02:33:19 AM
FINALLY I have found a reliable source of libertarian comedy!

We The Internet TV:
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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on October 09, 2019, 02:20:21 AM
More from WTI.TV, this segment just might capture the utter stupidity of Tucker Carlson.

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Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Dallas Wildman on October 10, 2019, 02:32:26 AM
The ODNI recently partially declassified a FISC ruling from one year ago (https://www.intelligence.gov/assets/documents/702%20Documents/declassified/2018_Cert_FISC_Opin_18Oct18.pdf)
The short story is that the FISC found that the FBI was not properly recording queries on U.S. persons from FISA and Section 702 acquired data (see Part IV.A).  This was in light of the fact that the FBI had a track record of conducting improper queries (see Part IV.B).  The queries were improper as they could not credibly linked to any legitimate national security or law enforcement interest.
For example:
-"On December 1, 2017 the FBI's (redacted) conducted over 6,800 queries using the Social Security Numbers of individuals (redacted) See Apr. 27, 2018, Notice at 2."
-"A set of queries (overlapping to some extent with the set of inadvertent queries of Section 702 data) apparently intended to return FBI documents or material.  See, e.g., May 17, 2018, Notice at 2 (redacted) May 4, 2018, Notice at 2 (redacted)"

This should be very alarming considering the following from this ruling:
"In 2017, NCTC, the CIA, and NSA collectively used approximately 7500 terms associated with U.S. persons to query content information acquired under Section 702, ... while the during the same year FBI personnel on a single system ran approximately 3.1 million (emphasis mine) against raw FISA-acquired information, including section 702-acquired information."

All references to the Fourth Amendment (yes they are there) in this ruling are obvious lip-service.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on November 23, 2019, 07:26:20 PM
Jerry Corbyn's son Tommy was running a company called NHS (National Hemp Service) and managed to loose about 200 000 pounds and go bankrupt.  How bad do you have to be with money to go broke selling drugs?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7716123/amp/Jeremy-Corbyns-sons-firm-goes-liquidation-owing-100-000.html?ico=amp_articleRelated (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7716123/amp/Jeremy-Corbyns-sons-firm-goes-liquidation-owing-100-000.html?ico=amp_articleRelated)

For extra value, Jerry Corbyn had bragged about giving his son business advice.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Ibrahim90 on November 26, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on November 23, 2019, 07:26:20 PM
Jerry Corbyn's son Tommy was running a company called NHS (National Hemp Service) and managed to loose about 200 000 pounds and go bankrupt.  How bad do you have to be with money to go broke selling drugs?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7716123/amp/Jeremy-Corbyns-sons-firm-goes-liquidation-owing-100-000.html?ico=amp_articleRelated (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7716123/amp/Jeremy-Corbyns-sons-firm-goes-liquidation-owing-100-000.html?ico=amp_articleRelated)

For extra value, Jerry Corbyn had bragged about giving his son business advice.

Never take advice on business from anyone like Corbyn.

Or dad. Never take advice from dad either.
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: evensgrey on December 25, 2019, 10:49:15 AM
A very good political commentary about an entertaining (although, like all action movies, not actually good) action movie.

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What I think is sad is that we're getting solid political commentary from the likes of Sargon, a man who will tell you straight up he's literally a professional shitposter, in that's how he earns his living.

The world is in serious trouble:  Shitposters are giving us real political analysis, and whatever TL;DR is is giving us real analysis of journal articles.  (Seriously, he's going through the Sokal Squared papers that got accepted for publication.  How nobody noticed the one that was a rework of a chapter of Mein Kampf wasn't that is beyond me.  The title included "My Struggle is Our Struggle," and it was all about fighting against 'choice feminism' and 'liberal feminism' with 'unity feminism.')
Title: Re: Fav quotes
Post by: Travis Retriever on August 07, 2020, 11:25:33 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/public-school-teachers-adamantly-insist-their-jobs-are-non-essential/

Quote from: Babylon Bee
U.S.?Public school teachers gathered outside the schoolhouses of the nation this week, continuing to insist quite adamantly that their jobs are non-essential.

?We need to lockdown all non-essential work, like teaching, due to the coronavirus pandemic,? stated one teacher protesting outside her local elementary school. ?What we do in the classroom is really not adding the kind of value to your children?s upbringing that we should risk spreading the virus.?

?If you look at the graduation rates, standardized test scores, and the studies that indicate public schools aren?t preparing students for the real world, believe me, we?re not doing your child any favors,? she added.

Another teacher holding a sign which read ?Don?t Make Us Work!? quickly chimed in, ?But we should still be paid until there is a vaccine. People are suffering in this crisis, essential workers and non-essential workers alike, and we all just need to get through this together. God bless our essential workers.?

At publishing time, the protesters had ordered food delivery and more protesting supplies that arrived to them thanks to the hard work of actual essential workers.

I fucking love The Babylon Bee.  It has basically filled the niche' that The Onion has long since abandoned. :)