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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2009, 09:38:51 PM »
http://mises.org/daily/3829 ("The Ethics of Freedom and Climate Change")
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2009, 09:12:31 AM »

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2009, 10:57:59 AM »
So what is your take on the e-mails of them supposedly falsifying data?
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2009, 12:02:33 PM »
Obviously, I have no idea yet if it's true or not. If it is, I see it more like the Ida controversy earlier this year: A scientist spoke out of turn to get some more popularity, got busted for it, but that doesn't give credence to the creationists. My feeling is this is the same kind of thing.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2009, 12:24:17 PM »
OK, technically not relevant in that it isn't a scholarly information source of any sort, but I simply HAD to post it:
Feel free to delete this post if you think it's really unwarranted.

PS:  Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! :)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2009, 04:17:46 PM by surhotchaperchlorome »
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2009, 02:33:37 PM »
You know what? It's official. The LoR is incapable of reasoned debate. I decided to give their science forum a chance and look into this issue. And guess what? No reasoned debate on it whatsoever. It just descended into Republican-bashing (not that I like Republicans in the first place, but whatever).

I think AndromedasWake should at the very least be ashamed at his creation. It's descended into madness.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2009, 09:14:25 PM »
You know what? It's official. The LoR is incapable of reasoned debate. I decided to give their science forum a chance and look into this issue. And guess what? No reasoned debate on it whatsoever. It just descended into Republican-bashing (not that I like Republicans in the first place, but whatever).

I think AndromedasWake should at the very least be ashamed at his creation. It's descended into madness.
Descended?
LoR was ALWAYS madness from what I can tell.
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2009, 09:19:43 PM »
Yeah, and they were trying to tell me that stuff happens on the Politics board and not the Science board.

And yes, it's pretty much been that way since Day One.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2009, 01:36:20 PM »
Back on topic:
I'm posting these not because I think that global warming is a conspiracy, but because I'm very certain that when you do the bogosity episode on it, you're going to get it from the people who see these.
That being said:

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2009, 02:10:38 PM »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2009, 04:12:45 AM »

Glad to have a person who knows what he's talking about give his ideas on this. :)
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2009, 12:28:47 PM »
And when I posted the above video as a comment on this video: 

I got this response from 73elephants:  "I've watched it. It is a straw man argument. He talks about two emails, and says "the skeptics harp on about those two emails; is that the best they've got?" He also goes on about the word "trick" -- pure straw man. The word "trick" by itself is not the problem, but the context, kind and *purpose* of the trick hinted at. There are actually DOZENS of emails clearly suggestive of serious misconduct, and the source code (which Potholer doesn't mention) is even more incriminating than the emails."
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2009, 12:30:20 PM »
Whoo boy...So what do you think of both Potholer54's video and this response by HowTheWorldWorks?
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2009, 01:18:03 PM »
This is looking more and more like a Shotgun Fallacy. They claim to have thousands of emails, so no matter which ones you debunk, they'll have more to go on for a long time.

This isn't the way it should be done. The burden of proof is on the side of those who are claiming that there is fraud going on. THEY are the ones who need to establish that there is, and that these emails should be taken at face value. They haven't done that.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2009, 01:24:13 PM »
Stupid question, but what's a shotgun fallacy?
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