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Gumba Masta

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #90 on: March 28, 2010, 12:50:15 AM »
I thought it was getting a bit... toasty.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2010, 12:02:20 AM »
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2:30: Okay, so why hasn't the sun warmed Mercury, Venus, and Uranus?

Well, I noticed he never said it didn't so it's possible we just don't have data to confirm yet.

I'm not an expert but you may be oversimplifying that calculation a bit.
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2010, 07:42:43 AM »
Really? If the sun is warming freakin' PLUTO, then how would it NOT be the case that our oceans would boil away? Do you have ANY idea how much closer we are to the sun than Pluto?

Imagine you're sitting at a table at a candlelight dinner. You're 2 feet away from the candle. You hardly feel any heat from it at all. If you're Pluto AT ITS CLOSEST, then Earth is about 3/4ths of an inch from the flame. If you're at Pluto's average orbit, then it's more like half an inch. Just TRY holding your hand at that distance for long!

Gumba Masta

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2010, 04:12:19 PM »
By what degree does the sun warm Pluto again? I mean, how high above absolute zero is it?

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #94 on: March 30, 2010, 04:32:37 PM »
The temperature above absolute zero doesn't matter. The total warming on Pluto is 3.5 degrees. I assumed with my calculation that only .1 degrees was due to the sun, and I STILL got Earth's oceans boiling.

Gumba Masta

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2010, 05:01:34 AM »
I'm uncertain what exactly it is what you are trying to tell us here.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2010, 06:32:37 AM »
If you have two objects, A and B, and A is twice as far a way from the sun as B, and the sun increases in intensity, it will warm B four times as much as it will A. Inverse square.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2010, 10:38:43 AM »
And this is proof that the earth is 6000 years old?

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #98 on: April 01, 2010, 11:03:36 AM »
Huh? This has nothing to do with YECism.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2010, 02:18:54 PM »
Oh sorry, that was episode 2 was'nt?

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2010, 02:26:38 PM »
Speaking of Stefan Molyneux, ever since I read his book, "Everyday Anarchy"'s  section on academia (page 51 onward), I've really been wondering about Climate Change.
When I first met Shane, me and him argued over whether Keynesian Economics was bogus.  I said it wasn't because it was taught in colleges and was pretty the consensus (or something like that).  After seeing a video of Ron Paul and others predict the current crisis via Austrian Economics, I knew that they were right, and Keynesianism was bogus, despite being the norm in terms of economics.
With Shane noting because it lets the politicians hear what they want to hear.

So how do we know that Climate Change isn't the Keynesianism of natural sciences then?
What predictive style tests can someone like me do (e.g. seeing a video of someone predicting something that shows the theory true) that would verify or falsify Climate Change?
I don't know what to think...
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2010, 03:48:37 PM »
Because the actual evidence backs up climate change. Did you watch the Muller lecture? I think I linked to it early in the thread. He goes into it.

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2010, 04:05:30 PM »
I looked through the whole thread, and didn't find it. :(
Please post it! :)

If I could get what I got for Austrian economics though, e.g. independent, non post facto prediction that verifies it (esp, not from the state), I would be far more confident about it.

Man, as if I needed another reason to want science out of the hands of the state...
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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2010, 05:18:30 PM »

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Re: Global Warming
« Reply #104 on: June 16, 2010, 12:32:24 AM »
Thanks. :)

Neither for nor against, but still very good: 

Nothing like a free market perspective on Climate Change. :)
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