Fightingatheist, I'm so dissapointed in you...

Started by Lord T Hawkeye, February 14, 2010, 09:58:42 AM

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A video filter that David Icke uses to find Lizard men?

Vogter now thinks Shane is a theist. ::) Coming from someone who used to subscribe to him and watch his videos, he is now admitting to being officially loony. I'll have quite the task of pruning my subscription list in the coming weeks.
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February 22, 2010, 08:21:02 PM #78 Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 08:28:51 PM by 11mc22
I'm watching his 5 part series on health care

part 1,2 and 3 could've been compressed to 1 video.

just to sum it up:

- Austrian economics and objectivists misunderstood human behavior, nature or biology
- Capitalism results in a gap between the rich and the poor
- Capitalism results in corruption and therefore proving Mises and Ayn Rand wrong
- Elmo apparently pwned Shane. All I saw was endless comments of rants and facts that really weren't important or wrong like the ones where he tries to sum up American health care history.
- More rants about how kaphithalizm iz teh eevul because the workers complained about it.
- and sadly more.

He never discusses the sources he cited in the first 2 and halfway through the third.

Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 22, 2010, 06:36:22 PM
What the hell is this?

As TJ once said, "Oh, that is so cute! He thinks he can think!

EDIT: Oh, and did you notice? "Ratings Disabled."

Quote from: valvatica on February 22, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
Vogter now thinks Shane is a theist. ::) Coming from someone who used to subscribe to him and watch his videos, he is now admitting to being officially loony. I'll have quite the task of pruning my subscription list in the coming weeks.

He already did that when he said he was a "libertarian socialist." So, is he a tall short guy, too? Is he a pedestrian when he drives?

Its really nothing new

He goes into life expectancy, infant mortality, overall health of a population
He even misinterprets facts. Canada uses each MRIs more often because they LACK MRI machines per capita compared to America which apparently has 4 time the amount of MRIs. Its not because Canadians treat more patients.

Quote from: 11mc22 on February 22, 2010, 08:58:27 PMHe goes into life expectancy, infant mortality,

AFTER being told why they're bogus metrics.

A question though: how much of the technologies that are developed in America was invented as a result of public spending as opposed to private?

Quote from: MrBogosity on February 22, 2010, 09:31:58 PM
AFTER being told why they're bogus metrics.


I remember watching him argue with FletchForFreedom. He had his ass thoroughly trounced, and continued to re-assert facts. I was amazed Fletch was able to keep from insulting him out of frustration.

But yeah, most of the stuff he says has been corrected.

Quote from: MrBogosity on February 22, 2010, 08:24:46 PM
He already did that when he said he was a "libertarian socialist." So, is he a tall short guy, too? Is he a pedestrian when he drives?
Anarcho-syndicalist to be more specific.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Sounds just like the time someone tried to tell me that socialism/communism aren't centralized, top down systems.

"Uh...yes they are.  The state is absolutely essential for these systems.  They can't exist without a central authority.

'Hey you making the pies, you have to share them with everyone.'

'Do you have any power to force me to?'

'No...'

'Well @#$% off then!'"
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 22, 2010, 11:10:34 PMSounds just like the time someone tried to tell me that socialism/communism aren't centralized, top down systems.
Yeah, that's pretty much the idea behind Anarcho Syndicalism/Communism/Socialism...
It's stupid, I know.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

I forgot but he also said that free markets lead to monopolies.

Quote from: 11mc22 on February 22, 2010, 09:40:28 PM
A question though: how much of the technologies that are developed in America was invented as a result of public spending as opposed to private?

I don't know specifically, but generally the data show across the board that government spending in technology and research crowds out more private innovations than it creates.