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November 10, 2010, 03:20:23 PM #465
Feminist double standarts are nothing new.
November 10, 2010, 07:03:25 PM #466
"If you like freedom, thank a veteran."--A bumper sticker I saw on the way home
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 10, 2010, 08:28:59 PM #467
"The current U.S. Health-care system is broken! Why do you free market fundies support it?"--Socialist/Statist fuckwits

Not an exact quote from any one person, but I think we've all heard what more or less amounts to this, no?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 11, 2010, 06:02:41 PM #468 Last Edit: November 11, 2010, 06:21:58 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
QuoteIt's simply a matter of the nature of claims. In politics, the status quo is usually the default position. If the claim is: "A reduction in government intervention can be demonstrated to increase efficiency in healthcare delivery." then the default position is that it "can't be demonstrated". For every positive claim there is a mutually exclusive negative claim.

Libertarianism is not the default. Specific positive claims must be demonstrated to be verifiable.
--C0nc0rdance to franks2732 in the raw milk video's comments.

Spoken like a true State Cultist, C0nc0rdance...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 11, 2010, 06:31:35 PM #469
Yeah, it's not as if Appeal to Status Quo is a fallacy or anything...
November 11, 2010, 07:09:29 PM #470
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 11, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
Yeah, it's not as if Appeal to Status Quo is a fallacy or anything...

I didn't see "Appeal to Status Quo" when I Googled it.
I think that might be a fallacy worth adding to the list of unnamed logical fallacies.
As I can't see any way that is NOT fallacious.
It seems like a special version of appeal to common practice.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 11, 2010, 07:17:57 PM #471
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 11, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
Yeah, it's not as if Appeal to Status Quo is a fallacy or anything...

Also, here was the reply I just posted to C0nc0rdance's comment(Not a fail quote):
"@C0nc0rdance
Appeal to Status Quo.

I'm sorry, but an argument that could be used to defend slavery or nazism as legitimate has no place in the realm of the rational."
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 11, 2010, 09:19:25 PM #472
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on November 11, 2010, 07:09:29 PM
I didn't see "Appeal to Status Quo" when I Googled it.

Put it in quotes. I just did it and got several results. Wikipedia lists it as "status quo bias."
November 11, 2010, 11:03:18 PM #473
I'm not sure if that's how you found it in Wikipedia, as putting in the quotes didn't much help.
At least I didn't see it on the first several pages of results even with the quotes.
I did put in "status quo bias" in Wikipedia and got results, however.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 12, 2010, 06:35:22 AM #474
No, put the quotes in Google.
November 12, 2010, 11:11:45 AM #475
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 12, 2010, 06:35:22 AM
No, put the quotes in Google.
I did.
"Status Quo Bias" (at least on the first few pages) didn't show up for me when I put in "Appeal to Status Quo" with the quotes in Google.
I did find it when put in "Status Quo Bias".
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 12, 2010, 11:39:30 AM #476
Maybe all your searches for " Nectrotic Lesbian Bestiality with mollusks" messed up your google relevance?
November 12, 2010, 11:54:02 AM #477 Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 11:57:17 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
You know that comment I posted?
Well, C0nc0rdance responded:

QuoteI'm not appealing to anything, this is a fundamental of critical thinking. The default position for any argument is that a positive claim can NOT be supported by evidence.

In politics or economics, the default is whatever we are currently doing (ie "no change"). If you want to make a positive claim, it will be something other than what we are currently doing. Inaction is always the default (negative) position.

If you want to change what we are currently doing, make a positive case.
--Fail quote

A claim that was long refuted by FlowCell in the comment section of the very video he posted that.
I'm sorry, but I just lost all respect for C0nc0rdance.
He's a statist hack.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
November 12, 2010, 09:05:16 PM #478
I can't believe C0nC0rdance would be this stupid.  Maintaining the status quo is equal to the claim that the status quo is what is best.  In other words, C0nC0rdance claims that the status quo does not need to be justified by evidence.  How the fuck is this a fundamental of critical thinking?  Oh GOD, the stupid, it BURNS!!!!

Where he misses the boat is thinking that the status quo is the same as inaction.  Inaction of government would be LIBERTY, not the status quo.  The status quo is just the present condition of the state and its policies, what ever they may be.  To say that the status quo is the NULL is to say that opportunity costs don't matter when fundamental critical thinking should tell everybody that they do.  See, this is the problem with statists, they have no concept of opportunity costs!  As C0nc0rdance admits, the NULL of an action is inaction, but this should then translate to mean that the NULL of government action is government inaction, not government doing the same damn thing it has done before.

How could somebody as smart as C0nc0rdance bet this stupid?
November 13, 2010, 12:18:16 AM #479
Statism does that.  If you use statism, you're not using your brain.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
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