Fail Quotes

[Lord T Hawkeye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bboqH5u6bo  I got two annoying ones on mine.

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bboqH5u6bo  I got two annoying ones on mine.

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that "johnny" talks about you making up history, and yet I've not seen a single source in any of his posts?

[Travis Retriever]

And speaking of Major bullshit, I've been meaning to post this from MaoistRebelNews2's profile description:

Capitalism: Known True Evil
1.4 Billion Murdered

Second Boer War 75,000
Japanese Massacre of Singapore 100,000
Burma-Siam Railroad Construction 116,000
Japanese Germ Warfare in China 200,000
Rebelling Shia Killed by Saddam 300,000
US Bombing of Yugoslavia 300,000
US Bombing Iraq Water Supply '91 500,000
US Civil War 700,000
Iraq-Iran War 1,000,000
US sanctions on Iraq 1,000,000
US Backed Suharto 1,200,000
Irish Potato Famine 1,500,000
Japanese Democides 5,964,000
Famine of 1932-33 7,000,000
Bengal Famine of 1943 10,000,000
Famine in British India 30,000,000
US Intervention in the Congo 5,000,000
Hurricane Katrina 1,836
Indonesian Anti-Com. Purge 500,000
Stateless Capitalist Somalia 1,000,000
Industrial Revolution USA 100,000
1898 US War vs Philippine 3,000,000
Palestinians Killed by Israel 826,626
Guatemala 300,000
Nanking Massacre 300,000
Iraq (Selling Gas to Saddam) 400,000
Iraq (Desert Storm) 500,000
Invasion of the Philippines 650,000
Feudal Russia 1,066,000
Afghanistan 1,200,000
Iraq 1,300,000
Khmer Rouge 2,035,000
South African Apartheid 3,500,000
Nazi Holocaust 12,000,000
US Aggression on Latin America 6,000,000
Japanese Imperialism 6,000,000
Pol Pot (CIA Puppet) 7,100,000
Vietnam War - including Cambodia & Laos 10,000,000
Korean War 10,000,000
British Occupation of India 10,000,000
Great Depression (America alone) 12,000,000
World War One 16,500,000
World War Two 60,000,000
Native American Genocide 95,000,000
Capitalist Policy in India 1947 - 1990 120,000,000
African Slave Trade 150,000,000

Children Killed by Hunger Since 9/11 235,000,000
Children Killed by Hunger during the 1990s 100,000,000
Ciggarette Related Deaths Worldwide (1960 - 2010) 300,000,000

Total Killed by Capitalism: 1,439,656,267

Yes, he actually blames wars of first strike aggression funded via taxation (force initiated via the state) and people who smoke (drug related stuff) on exchange absent the initiation of force.

Regarding the last three...I don't even know where to begin with those...
Is he really that damn deluded?

[Gumba Masta]

I'm surprised he came up with such a low number.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Yes, he actually blames wars of first strike aggression funded via taxation (force initiated via the state) and people who smoke (drug related stuff) on exchange absent the initiation of force.

Yeah, tis the usual idiocy of failing to understand the difference between the gun and the handshake.  "Rape = lovemaking, therefore sex is evil"

[Travis Retriever]

"'Simply put, this is a question for science, not philosophy.'

Science is a branch of philosophy. That's like saying 'this is about apples, not about fruit'."--somecomputergeek in this video's comment section

Three words: Pedantic equivocation fallacy.
It should have been blatant based on the mere differentiation between them that I was referring to Natural Philosophy (Science) vs. Non Natural Philosophy ("Philosophy" aka Bullshit).

Something Stefan and his followers don't seem to understand is that English is not the perfectly-precise or perfectly logical spiel he makes it out to be.
While I disagree with XOmniverse on his thoughts about Molyneux's UPB (I think it's pretty good; what I've read of it so far), and his points about Psychology (crap; citations needed, bro) I *do* agree with his thoughts on Stef's personality.

I've heard many of Stef's arguments against determinism and they are unconvincing strawmen at best...
As I said, this is a question for science, not philosophy.
Google "Quantum Mechanics" and see just how deterministic this universe really is...

[Travis Retriever]

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The above video is also a fail quote.
Reasons: condescending attitude when not warranted, almost nonstop mischaracterizations and butcherings of determinism and weak philosophical arguments against determinism for free will when scientific ones are what is warranted.
And this is from a guy who thinks determinism is nonsense and free will is a fact...

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Seemed fine to me.  If I have no free will, then why try to debate me about the subject?  It doesn't make any sense.

I view it like nihilism, a "Fashion philosophy."  Just an edgy label people like to stamp on themselves without actually changing one whit about their life or world view.

[Travis Retriever]

Seemed fine to me.  If I have no free will, then why try to debate me about the subject?  It doesn't make any sense.

THAT doesn't make any sense...

I view it like nihilism, a "Fashion philosophy."  Just an edgy label people like to stamp on themselves without actually changing one whit about their life or world view.

I fail to see the connection.

[Travis Retriever]

Honestly Stef's 'arguments' were the determinist equivalent of this (wait until she gets to the Free Will vs. Determinist stuff):

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A conversation between me, Shane and a determinist (not a fail quote) -
Shane: "The brain is an electrochemical computer. It operates with the movement of electrons and photons, which are subject to quantum mechanics. Your causal chain doesn't apply to the quantum level; quantum particles are probabilistic, not deterministic. When these particles make larger structures, the probabilities converge on either 0 or 100%, giving the illusion of determinism, but that's not what's really going on."

Me: "@shanedk Not to mention that free will advocates don't think that things don't have causes..." (Spoilers)

Shane: "@Surhotchaperchlorome  Yeah, as if free will means you don't consider the current state of things when making a decision or something. I really wonder what these people think free will means?"

sidewaysfcs0718 (the determinist): "@shanedk so its randomness then ....i see no free will.....

by the way ....the brain's functionality isnt based on the quantum nature of electrons and photons ...neurons send electrical impulses to teachother ..thoose impulses arent randomly timed ...the only thing random there is the simple movement of the current between neurons ...wich doesnt affect the impulse being trasmitted.

fail."

Shane: "@sidewaysfcs0718 NO IT IS NOT RANDOMNESS! Read my post again! Being probabilistic does NOT make it random! If it's random, then by definition all outcomes are equally likely and normalized over time. That is NOT the case with quantum mechanics.

It's ridiculous and arrogant that people are assuming that our human experience of a deterministic universe is the way things really are and QM is an illusion, when all of the data show it's really the other way around."

[Travis Retriever]

Fail quote:
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What more needs to be said?

[Travis Retriever]

"@Surhotchaperchlorome  show me evidence that airplanes took those building down. better yet, prove to me the US isn't a worldwide bully, a pack of liars, and unworthy of trust in any situation."--hollaboutit, in response to me saying that ThetaOmega's video about debating creationists applies to 9/11 truthtards as well.

[Travis Retriever]

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"...raising taxes is not socialist, it is WHY you raise taxes that can make it socialism."

[Travis Retriever]

I don't remember if I've posted this here or not.  It's even stupider than the above video, and thus, is a fail quote:

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I've already gone into great detail into why his video is complete BS, so I won't go into that here.

I suppose I should have expected this level of scientific illiteracy, special pleading, conspiracy mongering, intellectual arrogance and general/outright stupidity from someone who's both an anti-vaccination nutter (see FlowCell's 11 minute video about thunderf00t for source) and a 9/11 truther (see his comments left on JacobSpinney's recent videos on 9/11).

[Travis Retriever]

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Gotta love this.
How cute, the poster is trying to be intelligent. XD
This was found in the favorites of a Venus Project Nutter idiot called "voiceofreason467".
Adding even more proof to the notion that if a person labels themselves a certain way through their username, it's bullshit. :3