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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #750 on: February 06, 2011, 12:53:08 PM »
"Countries don't go to war because of the differences of their people but out of the similiarities of their leaders"

And speaking of the causes of war:

"The carnage of conflict is only an effect of the core violence which supports war, which is
the military enslavement of domestic citizens through the draft – and even more
importantly, the direct theft of their money which pays for the war.

Without the money to fund a war – and pay the soldiers, whether they are drafted or not –
war is impossible. The actual violence of the battlefield is a mere effect of the threatened
violence at home. If citizens could not be forced to pay for the war – either in the present in
the form of taxes, or in the future through deficit financing – then the carnage of the
battlefield could never possibly occur.

I have read many books and articles on the root of war – whether it is nationalism,
economic forces, faulty philosophical premises, class conflict and so on – none of which
addressed the central issue, which is how war is paid for. This is like advancing merely
psychological explanations as to why people play the lottery, without ever once mentioning
their interest in the prize money. Why do people become doctors? Is it because they have a
psychological need to present themselves as godlike healers, or because they are pleasing
their mother and father, or because they are themselves secretly wounded, or because they
possess an altruistic desire to heal the sick? These may be all interesting theories to pursue,
but they are mere effects of the basic fact that doctors are highly paid for what they do.

Certainly psychological or sociological theories may explain why a particular person
chooses to become a doctor rather than pursue some other high-paying occupation – but
surely we should at least start with the fact that if doctors were not paid, almost no one
would become a doctor. For instance, if a magic pill were invented tomorrow that ensured
perfect health forever, there would be no more doctors – because no one would pay for the
unnecessary service. Thus the first cause of doctors is – payment.

In the same way, we can endlessly theorize about the psychological, sociological or
economic causes of war, but if we never talk about the simple fact that the first cause of war
is domestic theft and military enslavement, then everything that follows remains mere
abstract and airless intellectual quibbling, more designed to hide the truth than reveal it.

We can only point guns at foreign enemies because we first point guns at domestic citizens.

Without taxation, there can be no war.

Without governments, there can be no taxation.

Thus governments are the first cause of war.

The truth of the matter, I believe, is that deep down we know that if we pull out this one
single thread – that coercion against citizens is the root of war – we know that many other
threads will also come unraveled."--Stefan Molyneux, Everyday Anarchy, page 31
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #751 on: February 06, 2011, 05:31:49 PM »
Or shorter...
War, war never changes.

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #752 on: February 06, 2011, 08:45:27 PM »
"Neo-conservatives are just ex-Trotskyist commies.  They all suck." --deathtotyrants76 in the comments of this video:  
« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 09:03:01 PM by surhotchaperchlorome »
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-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #753 on: February 06, 2011, 09:02:18 PM »
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed 1000 more if only they knew they were slaves." --Harriet Tubman
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #754 on: February 06, 2011, 10:03:50 PM »
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed 1000 more if only they knew they were slaves." --Harriet Tubman

I'm still looking for a definitive source for this one.

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #755 on: February 06, 2011, 10:17:42 PM »
I got it from one of Mike Shanklin's videos in case you're wondering.

"Reagan's anti-communist rhetoric notwithstanding, his spending records indicate he was more concerned with creating a socialist state at home than stopping the ones abroad." --Me, inspired by James Ostrowski, and the slew of criticisms to conservativism/republicans from the Mises Institute recently
« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 11:01:24 PM by surhotchaperchlorome »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #756 on: February 06, 2011, 11:49:28 PM »
And speaking of Ostrowski:

"And don’t tell me about 'free riders.' It’s my plan that eliminates the free riders: people who live at the expense of unwilling others. Besides, I’d rather have a few 'free riders' than have a whole nation of tax slaves (unfree carriers)."--James Ostrowski, Shane, you'll love this Mises Daily.  It's like a short version of Harry Browne's book, "Why Government Doesn't Work"
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #757 on: February 07, 2011, 11:39:58 PM »
"A lynch mob is a democracy [a]s well. Should that be held sacred?" --Virgil0211 in the comment section of this video: 
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
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« Reply #758 on: February 10, 2011, 04:52:44 PM »
"Actually science without religion is fucking awesome." --Sconz32; highest rated comment (as of this posting) on this video: 

"Faith IS hope without evidence. When people believe that Noah herded two of every animal on Earth into a big boat and floated around for 40 days, they don't do it because there's proof, they do so with hope because they WANT to believe it's true.

The scientific method itself doesn't approve/disprove anything. It's not an intelligent agent, it's a process." --shade1978x, second highest rated comment on that same video
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #759 on: February 11, 2011, 06:45:40 AM »
"Fine. Lets grant the premise that everything scientists say about evolution is a lie. Why does it work? Why do we get results when we use the concept of evolution as the foundation for our experiments? Why do we learn new information? Why do we solve problems? If evolution is a lie, its a lie that gives us results. If Creationism is true, its a truth that provides us with nothing except a warm fuzzy feeling that a cruel, inept deity exists." --Abbie Smith

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #760 on: February 11, 2011, 10:28:52 AM »
You want to trust your healthcare to the same people who happily wage wars and sell the future productivity of your children to pay for it...and you're trying to say I'M naive? - Me

"well, see, that's not the same thing. it doesn't count because..um...YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN WHO WILL FORCE YOU TO PAY TAXES IN A STATELESS SOCIETY SO IT DOESNT WORK!"
Seriously, it's like showing a solar panel to someone, who tells you it will never work because there's nowhere to pour the gas in. - My friend Wraith's reply
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I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #761 on: February 12, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »

Epic win.
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #762 on: February 12, 2011, 04:05:27 PM »

Epic win.

Failz around 1:35: Global Cooling was never a scientific consensus, and the educated world has agreed that the Earth is round for almost 3000 years.

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« Reply #763 on: February 12, 2011, 05:22:08 PM »
"What do you call a small businessman who makes $300,000 and wants lower taxes and less regulation so that he can re-invest in his business and hire more workers? He's 'greedy.' What do you call a billionaire who calls for HIGHER taxes and more regulation so that he won't face competition from small business? He's 'a philanthropist and a humanitarian.'" --DownsizeDC.org (on their Facebook page)

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #764 on: February 12, 2011, 05:23:47 PM »
Failz around 1:35: Global Cooling was never a scientific consensus, and the educated world has agreed that the Earth is round for almost 3000 years.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. :)
Beyond those things, it was good, despite what I perceived as a conservative slant.  My favorite was the bit about a college education and the 63% chance that you'll make either the same as or LESS than the people who didn't attend college.

EDIT:  I've got 2011 posts! Same as the number of this year!. ;D
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011, 05:28:28 PM by surhotchaperchlorome »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537