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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #510 on: September 29, 2010, 08:06:25 PM »

Glad to hear more of the Libertarians and Anti-Statists talk about this. :)
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #511 on: September 29, 2010, 09:07:23 PM »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #512 on: September 29, 2010, 09:07:51 PM »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #513 on: September 30, 2010, 10:20:14 PM »
Statists: Like zombies without an interest in brains.
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-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #514 on: October 01, 2010, 06:47:02 AM »
Statists: Like zombies without an interest in brains.
It's certainly more intelligent than most conversations I have with statists...

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #515 on: October 02, 2010, 02:27:59 AM »
"I'm also glad that Shane showed me this:  http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=libertarian
Showing that, sorry, "libertarian" was NOT originally used to mean "anarcho socialist", despite what the idiots like Chomsky will tell you.
A search also reveals the term "tea party" where it mentions the ones "beginning in 2009" http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=libertarian
which they would call conservative to try to discredit the source.  Which is ironic because they never seem to provide any sources for the original use of the term themselves.
And because it's a red herring.  They were talking about the original meaning of the word, which is clearly unrelated to anarcho-socialism.
Just like the republicans, they like hijacking terms and movements.

Democrat vs Republican = Douche vs Turd"--Me, in AIM with Lord T Hawkeye, slightly revised.
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #516 on: October 02, 2010, 02:29:20 AM »
"After reading something on Cracked, something occured to me.
Determinism vs Free Will is a false dichotomy.
As demonstrated by Shane's point about quantum mechanics, one COULD still argue that that just means our brains aren't deterministic, but that doesn't prove we "choose" things via free will.
Which is true.
However:
1. No one advocating free will (that I know of) says that we aren't influenced by our environments or past experiences.
2. They're essentially trying to say: "use choice to choose between the freedom-to-choose and non-choice"
Granted, it sounded better when the thoughts first started flowing in a few days ago.
   
So worst case senario, even IF free will isn't proven, determinism is still falsified via quantum mechanics."--Me in the same IM with Lord T Hawkeye.

So question, how does having a probabilistic (quantum mechanical) brain give us free will ("the ability to choose" as it is often defined)?
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 02:37:18 AM by surhotchaperchlorome »
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #517 on: October 02, 2010, 06:24:47 PM »
"We have a two-party system: the Silly Party and the Stupid Party." --P.J. O'Rourke

"The hard part is telling which one is which." --Me

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #518 on: October 02, 2010, 07:11:00 PM »
We also have the lemon party, but that's neither here nor there.
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #519 on: October 02, 2010, 10:27:53 PM »
Anyways, back on topic:

As people in science say, "If you can't explain what you're doing to an 8-year old, you're a fraud who doesn't know what he's doing."--can't remember who exactly
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #520 on: October 03, 2010, 01:44:46 PM »
From a this thread right here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.236241-Poll-Should-he-still-be-punished

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He should be given a light punishment, Nothing to severe mind you. Perhaps just an hour or two of Council work or Psychiatric care perhaps.

Psychiatric care?! Are you actually suggesting you send a 13 year old boy going through puberty to a shrink because he looked at girls HIS age?! I guess we should now send teenagers under the age of 18 that had sex to a shrink as well because well fuck me, there's obviously something wrong with them since they disobeyed the law. They're pre-teens. They're going through puberty. Of course they're going to look at naked women. So because this one decided to look at naked girls HIS age he should be punished? By your logic, any 13 year old who thinks of other 13 year olds in a sexual manner is fucking mentally ill. That makes absolutely no sense.


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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #521 on: October 03, 2010, 02:38:04 PM »
I looked at the thread.
Notice how:
1.  There is no discussion of restitution to any wronged party (hint: there were none; it was a victimless crime), only of punishment.
2.  People are just jabbing on about how, "Well, it's the law, and so he should be punished."  Epic fail.  So was helping the slaves in the USA during early 19th century, and helping the Jews in Germany escape during the holocaust.  Sorry, but the state is NOT the final arbiter of mortality anymore than "god" is.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 12:01:48 PM by surhotchaperchlorome »
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #522 on: October 03, 2010, 07:04:14 PM »
I got a question for the nudity crusaders.

What if a young, female artist draws a self portrait of herself nude?  Are you going to try and stop her?  By force if needed?
If so, explain to me how you're still the good guy here.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #523 on: October 04, 2010, 07:35:24 AM »
I got a question for the nudity crusaders.

What if a young, female artist draws a self portrait of herself nude?  Are you going to try and stop her?  By force if needed?
If so, explain to me how you're still the good guy here.

"It's DA LAWL, so she should be punished"

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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #524 on: October 04, 2010, 09:39:05 AM »
By spanking the naughty, naughty girl?