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March 11, 2010, 07:02:55 PM #285
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 09, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
"It is, they say, not Russia that plans aggression but, on the contrary, the decaying capitalist democracies. Russia wants merely to defend its own independence. This is an old and well-tried method of justifying aggression. Louis XIV and Napoleon I, Wilhelm II and Hitler were the most peace-loving of all men. When they invaded foreign countries, they did so only in just self-defence. Russia was as much menaced by Estonia or Latvia as Germany was by Luxemburg or Denmark." --Ludwig von Mises, Epilogue

Man, does that sound like our foreign policy today or what?
Damn.
Moral of the story, Interventionism (whether economic or military) is bullshit.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 11, 2010, 07:08:14 PM #286 Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 12:24:43 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
"The state is an evolutionary relic. Statistically private defense contracting has been more successful than the US military. It should follow that the same would be true for security contracting. It doesn't matter who our 'enemy' is. The choice is between a huge conglomeration of the worlds most useless people or a decentralized profit based form of economics in military industrial matters. So this is my proposal in answer to the militia issue. It's not a political issue. It's pure business." --GrandArchitect3D, "Liberals are cunts" by InTheEndIWasRight
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 11, 2010, 08:12:01 PM #287
Does he mean contractors like Blackwater?
March 11, 2010, 08:25:11 PM #288
Quote from: Gumba Masta on March 11, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
Does he mean contractors like Blackwater?
Ask him yourself. :P
I linked the video where the comment was made.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 11, 2010, 08:44:25 PM #289
"(I just realized I'm trying to talk sense into a guy who voluntarily chose to name himself 'clown porn'...)"--Shanedk, Re: Healthcare, Let's Help Each Other
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 13, 2010, 01:34:15 PM #290 Last Edit: March 13, 2010, 03:20:23 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
"Do not bother responding to gklr he is a troll he is only here to get channel views and waste your time. If you really want to run around in circles trying to debate him you can but you will never get anywhere, he will never recognize the validity of any of your arguments and he will intentionally make dumb arguments to get a rise out of you. He will also respond by taking your points out of context.

If the 'fuck you' video he has on his channel does not give him away his comment history will"--Valmarith (another person gklr is fucking around with...)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 13, 2010, 10:31:53 PM #291
"I'm not so much anti-religion as I am pro-freedom so if religion were pro-freedom, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  But then again, if religion were pro-freedom, it wouldn't exist."  Pat Condell

I've noted you can say the same about the state.  But then again, it's amazing how frequently the church and the state can be interchanged.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
March 14, 2010, 12:30:25 AM #292
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 13, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
"I'm not so much anti-religion as I am pro-freedom so if religion were pro-freedom, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  But then again, if religion were pro-freedom, it wouldn't exist."  Pat Condell

I've noted you can say the same about the state.  But then again, it's amazing how frequently the church and the state can be interchanged.
Well, as ConfederalSocialist has explained in his videos called, "Mommy Government" the state is an outgrowth of religion (or something like that).
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 16, 2010, 03:45:24 PM #293
"Dictionaries DO NOT define words. They only report popular usage. They ARE NOT authoritative sources." --Shane to some dude in his healthcare video
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 16, 2010, 06:20:31 PM #294
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on March 16, 2010, 03:45:24 PM
"Dictionaries DO NOT define words. They only report popular usage. They ARE NOT authoritative sources." --Shane to some dude in his healthcare video

I can see this becoming a problem if it's not already. While it's true dictionaries can be terrible in containing accurate scientific definitions for colloquial words (like AronRa pointed out with "animal" and "monkey"), for political terms they sometimes are in agreement with common usage and sometimes not. If dictionaries are only a conveyance of popular usage (they don't "define" the words as much as just render on pages what speakers of the language agree to), won't this create problems in arguments like the ones you guys have had with others? (If you thought ad hominem recursus was bad already...)
"Did you know that the hole's only natural enemy is the pile?"
"Dead Poets Society has destroyed a generation of educators."
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March 16, 2010, 07:14:04 PM #295
Quote from: valvatica on March 16, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
I can see this becoming a problem if it's not already. While it's true dictionaries can be terrible in containing accurate scientific definitions for colloquial words (like AronRa pointed out with "animal" and "monkey"), for political terms they sometimes are in agreement with common usage and sometimes not. If dictionaries are only a conveyance of popular usage (they don't "define" the words as much as just render on pages what speakers of the language agree to), won't this create problems in arguments like the ones you guys have had with others? (If you thought ad hominem recursus was bad already...)
It's especially bad for more complex philosophical positions like "Atheism" and "Anarchy".
Check out the featured video on my youtube page by Ffreethinker to see what I mean...
Simply put, the dictionaries are full of shit with their definitions of Atheism, some even going as far as equating it to Hedonism (wtf?).
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 20, 2010, 11:40:04 AM #296 Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 10:52:39 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
"If the only arguments for the existence of god contain logical fallacies, god may as well be a fallacy." --Unattributed quote on Morrakiu's userpage

"If the only arguments for the existence of a good/necessary state contain logical fallacies, the state may as well be a fallacy."--Me
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 21, 2010, 11:41:23 PM #297
"You're right that economics is complicated, which is exactly why free market thinkers don't pretend to be able to fully understand it enough to attempt centralized planning like you advocate." --Codad, The Free Market Was Framed: Government Intervention Caused The Financial Crisis by Jacob Spinney
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 23, 2010, 02:09:06 PM #298 Last Edit: March 24, 2010, 07:04:56 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
"I - USE - EXTENZE - AND NOW - MY COCK - IS SO BIG - IN SOME STATES, IT'S EVEN ILLEGAL" --Billy Mays in a YouTube poop (more sentence mixing)

Here's the source for those who are wondering:  [yt]oyMrvTX2I9U[/yt]
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 24, 2010, 05:24:28 PM #299
"Remember, when it comes to perpetrating a hoax, NASA has infinite resources, infinite talents and infinite competence. They lack competence in only one regard: landing humans on the moon." --YouTube user ApolloWasReal
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