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Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
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Shane delivers yet again. :)

that he does. But....

while he's right that there are good correlations here, which were predicted in advance, I think a minor digression would have been in order, namely to explain the (relatively) large amount of scatter--especially the less economically free the country is. This would only make an already good argument near-watertight.

(I mean, has anyone else noticed? the countries not only become better at a given good thing, but also the scatter is noticeably less. And vice versa)

"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

-Jesse Cox

Ok, I was going to give screen shots with this, but since there is no scanning device at the fuck all, I've failed to figure out how to do that.

So any way, at 13:28 Shane claimes the blue box 1.75 inches from the right is the United States, which is fine, I'm not arguing with his point, which I agree with, but wtf is the greenish grey circle 1.25 inches from the right, and about an inch from the top?

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 15, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
that he does. But....

while he's right that there are good correlations here, which were predicted in advance, I think a minor digression would have been in order, namely to explain the (relatively) large amount of scatter--especially the less economically free the country is. This would only make an already good argument near-watertight.

(I mean, has anyone else noticed? the countries not only become better at a given good thing, but also the scatter is noticeably less. And vice versa)

True; you have a convergence as well as a trend. I also suspect a lot of the less-free countries might be fudging their data a bit...

Quote from: dallen68 on October 16, 2014, 01:12:51 AM
Ok, I was going to give screen shots with this, but since there is no scanning device at the fuck all, I've failed to figure out how to do that.

So any way, at 13:28 Shane claimes the blue box 1.75 inches from the right is the United States, which is fine, I'm not arguing with his point, which I agree with, but wtf is the greenish grey circle 1.25 inches from the right, and about an inch from the top?

Are you still talking about Voluntary Private Social Spending? There shouldn't be any green anythings on that graph. Maybe a glitch when YouTube encoded it?

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Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 15, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
As I've said to D (and likely to Hawkeye) before, these articles below are some of the best arguments against government--especially leftist stuff like welfare, govco schools, etc--I've ever seen.  Because how much easier would those lessons be to learn if we hadn't been indoctrinated with the opposite of the truth for YEARS by govco run schools? And yes, well aware of the irony that Wong and Cheese would NEVER admit to the libertarian slanting of these articles.  I've yet to read, "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne yet (the writing is just terribad...I'm talking Ayn Rand tier here with how much he repeats himself...there ARE other ways to show emphasis in writing that aren't as annoying), but I have a suspicion that if Harry were still alive and were to ignore the SJW bits from Wong, he'd give an approving nod to these:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-useless-pieces-advice-everyone-gives/

Okay, anyone who knows me knows that I do NOT like David Wong, especially with his SJW and "the sky is falling!" bends, however, ignoring the bits where he lets his SJW side slip in these (only holding the guy to the standards and not the girl in harsh truths one; or what comes off as 'thin privilege!111' bollocks in the useless advice one), the articles themselves are very good.

Like a very well written self help book that doesn't suck, or a advice from a wise old relative who actually knows what they're talking about.

Personally, I thought John Cheese said it better regarding the 'grown up hobbies' bullshit Wong was espousing: 
"First of all, don't look at your parents boring lives and assume that being an adult means living according to their template. No, you don't have to ditch the video games and take up a 'grown up' hobby like golf if you don't feel like it. See, once you're an adult, you get to decide."--
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/

And speaking of John Cheese, some really win 'self help' ish articles from him that are very win as well:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-dont-miss-your-20s-when-theyre-over/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-high-school-doesnt-prepare-you-work/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pieces-advice-every-high-school-graduate-should-get/ (save for the last item--I mean, he IS aware that government authority is still a thing, right?)

As a final note, the "nice guys" bit was destroyed by Karen Straughan here:
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And I've posted stuff from Chateau Heartiste and from Paul Elam before noting that the "jerk" (read: alpha) behavior many talk about is, to an extent, what attracts many women for the same reason a large rack and a nice ass attracts men to women, rather than coming with stuff a lady finds desirable.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/01/07/tribalism-isnt-about-feelings-its-about-the-zero-sum-outlook/
The title alone is win.  Ironic that this was something David Wong linked to when talking about change...when he wrote that article on rich people that was just one big fat zero sum fallacy...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

http://www.healthylivingheavylifting.com/stop-trying-to-be-hardcore/
All of my yes. :) posted by Layne Norton and I RT on my account for Great Justice. :)
Hell, I even get fallacious bogosity from friends and family, some of whom have never been fat and have NEVER tried to lose weight in their lives and will never have to think about it.

It's like, bro, #DoYouEvenScience
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on October 16, 2014, 06:31:10 AM
True; you have a convergence as well as a trend. I also suspect a lot of the less-free countries might be fudging their data a bit...

Indeed, but also I sispect differences due to different governmt styles , resources, population, religion, etc
"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

-Jesse Cox

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These three ladies kicked the shit out of the anti-#GamerGate crowd.


Richard Carrier (historian who actually does his best to really do his homework) goes into Bayes Theorem (and a number of other things in his usual only apparently wandering style).

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/992092/
Moral of the story: the most successful politicians are the most sociopathic politicians.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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so are the Hussites back in business? :P
"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

-Jesse Cox

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 21, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
so are the Hussites back in business? :P

>Hussites
>not Hussies

I'm disappointed.

October 22, 2014, 08:44:30 AM #4409 Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 08:51:04 AM by MrBogosity
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