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Bogosity Podcast for 23 September 2013

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September 22, 2013, 04:05:57 PM
[mp3]http://podcast.bogosity.tv/mp3s/BogosityPodcast-2013-09-23.mp3[/mp3]


Co-Hosts: Dave Turcotte and Jonathan Loesche

News of the Bogus:
36:45 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Matt Walsh http://themattwalshblog.com/2013/09/13/christianity-has-done-more-for-science-than-atheism-ever-could/
45:37 - Idiot Extraordinaire: Brynne Larson and Tess and Savannah Scherkenback http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23986595This Week's Quote: "The Potter books in general are a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry, and I think it's one of the reasons that some people don't like the books, but I think that it's a very healthy message to pass on to younger people that you should question authority and you should not assume that the establishment or the press tells you all of the truth." —J.K. Rowling
September 22, 2013, 08:49:12 PM #1
http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html
Reminds me of number 5 on this list (the one about charter schools).  I'm not sure, but I take it the OP of this article is full of shit.  What do you think?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
September 22, 2013, 10:12:04 PM #2
To be fair, the whole "hare chewing the cud" is really a manner of translation from the original Hebrew text:

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And yes, I know it's TektonTV, which Shane hates to see, but it does explain the passage succinctly.

I mean, this is like criticizing the Bible for classifying bats as birds (even though the Hebrew word translates to "winged animal") or mentioning unicorns (even though the Hebrew word is for "one-horned animal", which could easily refer to the rhinoceros).


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.
September 23, 2013, 06:14:47 AM #3
Fine, but then don't turn around and tell me it's the Word of God.
September 23, 2013, 11:20:38 PM #4 Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 11:37:11 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 22, 2013, 08:49:12 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html
Reminds me of number 5 on this list (the one about charter schools).  I'm not sure, but I take it the OP of this article is full of shit.  What do you think?
So do you have anything you have to say about this article ("#5. Waiting for 'Superman' -- Charter Schools Kind of Suck, Too")?

QuoteThe Fallacy:

Waiting for "Superman" was all about improving the country's education, but it's so poorly researched and one-sided that it might actually be making things worse.

Let's start with that "only 20 to 35 percent can read well" statistic: The real number is closer to about 75 percent. Also, you might remember a throwaway line about how only 1 in 5 charter schools performs better than public schools -- yeah, that's sort of a big deal, movie. Thirty-seven percent of charters actually perform worse.


Via Wikipedia
"Unfortunately the director went to a charter school, so math isn't his greatest strength."

The film focuses on the charters that perform better, of course, but at least one of those is achieving its results through fishy means. One of the administrators of a school shown in the film, the Harlem Children's Zone, expelled an entire class of children that he feared would throw off his glowing performance statistics. It turns out that when teacher pay and/or school funding is tied to student performance, a model that the film advocates, it opens the door for all kinds of shady shit, including flat-out expelling low-performing students the day before the test to boost their numbers.

In the movie, not getting into a charter school is the worst thing that can happen to a poor family, but studies have shown that school choice itself matters little to a student's success -- shockingly, it's more about how seriously the students themselves and their families take their education. And that ghetto public school might not actually be so bad: According to administrators from Woodside High School, which the film claims only sends a third of its students to college and only graduates 62 percent of them, the film excluded students who go to out-of-state colleges in their statistics, and their graduation rate is more like 92 percent. Shit, being left behind is starting to sound awesome.


"Yep, you've graduated! Now please get out of our school."

Hmmm. While I'm at it, I'll also add that I found the source of the study in #6 a bit perplexing (the Swedish study the OP links to)--talking about individual metabolism; which contradicts Cracked.com's own thoughts in other articles regarding it being a function of weight (increase that, you burn more; like a Hummer vs a Prius) and more or less constant beyond that:  http://www.cracked.com/article_19296_6-lies-about-human-body-you-learned-in-kindergarten_p2.html #1 on that and linked so you know what I'm talking about.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 06, 2014, 06:44:40 PM #5
I decide to share this podcast on a whim to Walsh's facebook page.
I just wanna see their mouths foam.
Is that "evil" of me?
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu
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