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Re: Truth Hits You Like Katana Bricks (from Fail Quotes)
« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2014, 05:24:03 PM »
Question? How much was a coat of plates compared to full suit of plate?

Well, from what I've seen, knights used to wear them before plate mail was popular and it kinda later was used by man at arms, since it was a little cheaper than full plate.

Both a coat and a breastplate are just as useful for protecting your torso, you will need to add some mail and gauntlets to protect your arms though, if you are using a coat.
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« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2014, 08:43:11 PM »
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« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2014, 09:27:35 PM »

What do you guys think of the talwar vs katana debate?
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« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2014, 11:06:41 PM »

What do you guys think of the talwar vs katana debate?

1. the video doesn't work. 2. It would be interesting to watch.
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« Reply #124 on: February 15, 2014, 12:04:56 AM »
1. the video doesn't work. 2. It would be interesting to watch.

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« Reply #125 on: February 15, 2014, 01:50:10 AM »

What do you guys think of the talwar vs katana debate?


hard to say. it depends on the skill of the user I guess, and the efficiency of the design: the more efficient, the easier it is to cut with, but skill can compensate. that's why that Clements guy cut that tatami in two with a blunt bastard sword.
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« Reply #126 on: February 15, 2014, 04:05:24 PM »

hard to say. it depends on the skill of the user I guess, and the efficiency of the design: the more efficient, the easier it is to cut with, but skill can compensate. that's why that Clements guy cut that tatami in two with a blunt bastard sword.

Can you name some famous middle eastern swordsmen?
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« Reply #127 on: February 18, 2014, 06:17:57 AM »

Can you name some famous middle eastern swordsmen?

Ali ibn abi-talib comes to mind (he was the Prophet's cousin, fourth Caliph, and among the Shia, second only to Muhammad himself (first if you are a member of the ghulat)). he didn't set up schools, but he was known to be invincible in a duel--and he fought lots of those (for military reasons): his trademark weapon was a double pronged sword (which was straight edged: curved swords come with the Turks). Many Early Muslim celebrities were known to be skilled duelists as well: these were all for military purposes, the idea being to demoralize the enemy by killing their champions (for example at Yarmouk, the battle began with a series of duels). again, the sword was the weapon of choice.

makes me wish all modern armies started their battles by having the leaders of the respective armies/countries/forces fight duels to the death themselves...
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« Reply #128 on: February 18, 2014, 08:31:00 AM »
Ali ibn abi-talib comes to mind (he was the Prophet's cousin, fourth Caliph, and among the Shia, second only to Muhammad himself (first if you are a member of the ghulat)). he didn't set up schools, but he was known to be invincible in a duel--and he fought lots of those (for military reasons): his trademark weapon was a double pronged sword (which was straight edged: curved swords come with the Turks). Many Early Muslim celebrities were known to be skilled duelists as well: these were all for military purposes, the idea being to demoralize the enemy by killing their champions (for example at Yarmouk, the battle began with a series of duels). again, the sword was the weapon of choice.

makes me wish all modern armies started their battles by having the leaders of the respective armies/countries/forces fight duels to the death themselves...

were there ever martial arts schools in the middle east.
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« Reply #129 on: February 18, 2014, 07:33:15 PM »
were there ever martial arts schools in the middle east.

Of course there were (though whether in the European way of establishing schools is another matter: Government has always been more centralized in the region, so military training worked more like armies today), but the Problem is that most have been largely abandoned and/or forgotten: what use is a sword in an age when your enemy next door has cluster bombs and unmanned drones?
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« Reply #130 on: February 18, 2014, 10:53:24 PM »
Of course there were (though whether in the European way of establishing schools is another matter: Government has always been more centralized in the region, so military training worked more like armies today), but the Problem is that most have been largely abandoned and/or forgotten: what use is a sword in an age when your enemy next door has cluster bombs and unmanned drones?

Ask Mad Jack Churchill.  He always took a sword with him, and sometimes a longbow as well (and is credited with killing in battle with it).  This is in WWII, mind you, so no cluster bombs (unless you counts the way bombing operated, which was rather worse), but there were unmanned drones, used by both sides.

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« Reply #131 on: February 19, 2014, 03:03:26 PM »
Ask Mad Jack Churchill.  He always took a sword with him, and sometimes a longbow as well (and is credited with killing in battle with it).  This is in WWII, mind you, so no cluster bombs (unless you counts the way bombing operated, which was rather worse), but there were unmanned drones, used by both sides.

yeah, the "Mad" part in his name should be a warning that he wasn't going to operate by normal rules :P
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« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2014, 04:52:54 PM »
yeah, the "Mad" part in his name should be a warning that he wasn't going to operate by normal rules :P

Well, no, he didn't.  He liked to have his bagpipes with him as well.  (Being a Scott also suggests he's probably not going to want to operate by normal rules.)  He even played them once while waiting to be captured, surrounded by the bodies of literally his entire unit. The German troops were apparently somewhat scared of him, since (a) Scotts were generally regarded by Germans as being completely mad anyway, and (b) he's sitting out in the open making a tremendous racket after losing a massive firefight really badly.

He joined straight into the Commandos, not really knowing anything about what that was except it was dangerous and therefore fun.

After being captured, he simply walked away from prison camps until they stuck him in Colditz, the castle where they held the most persistently successful escapees. He was working on getting out of there (he was involved in the quite audacious glider project the prisoners had going) when the war ended in Europe.

He was about to head out for the Far East when Japan surrendered, and is reported to have been annoyed at the war ending at that point.

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« Reply #133 on: February 20, 2014, 04:49:35 AM »
well, on the subject of lost arts, it turns out someone has revived Mameluke/seljuk/Persian style shooting...in Denmark:


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Re: Truth Hits You Like Katana Bricks (from Fail Quotes)
« Reply #134 on: February 20, 2014, 04:27:15 PM »

This comment on this video by yamashisho.

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>the greatsword have 2 hard edges but a soft center that can take the impact far easier than the katana.>

Hard = Tough

Although this formula is half right, it is half wrong .
Glass is harder than steel. But, glass is weaker than steel.
The intensity of the material of a sword is decided by hardness and adhesive correlation. Moreover, the intensity of a blade is decided by correlation of hardness and pliability.

A tough sword cannot be made only from element of one of the two .
Therefore, both of Japanese blade and European blade had the hardest edge and other portions is soft in comparison.
In the case where  the single edge blade sword and double edge blade sword which were made from the material of the same mass ,when the pressure is added to edge side , the single edge blade sword is stronger than double edge blade sword .
Therefore, this video is FAKE.
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