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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2009, 12:28:23 PM »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole worldó'No. You move.'"
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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2009, 04:57:22 PM »
Our crime rate, including murder, is higher, mostly due to the War on Drugs. We also have more traffic accidents. These things and more pull down our average life expectancy and have nothing to do with health care.

Do they also use infant mortality? That's another bogus criteria. We count infants born with fatal conditions; other countries don't. Additionally, our health care system, being BETTER (in every way other than economic), brings more babies to term that would have died in the womb. Obviously, these babies are going to have a better chance of dying than normal, healthy babies. I tried to explain this to a socialist woo once, and he tried turning it into an issue of abortion!

I'm not to sure if infant mortality was used. I revised my comment and took it out because I don't think the WHO specifically used infant mortality as a criteria.
But they did use overall health in population and other crap that had more to do with lifestyle than health care.

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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2009, 03:43:13 AM »

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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2009, 09:19:05 PM »
Another bogus argument from both Moore and others about Socialized Medicine is that "the USA needs to get on board with the rest of the developed world."
Which is a blatant bandwagon fallacy (or at least an appeal to popularity).
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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2009, 09:33:44 PM »
Against.  Might surprise you.
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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2009, 11:14:55 PM »

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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #81 on: November 14, 2009, 07:42:21 PM »
I doubt anyone here will have the time to listen to the whole thing.


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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #82 on: November 14, 2009, 07:43:38 PM »

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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #83 on: November 14, 2009, 08:15:53 PM »
I love that bit near the end about how you're taxed on tax in Canada.  tis true.  They hit you for earning money, they hit you for spending it and then they hit you for being hit.  Blood sucking parasites, the whole lot of them!
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Re: universal health care vs private health care
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Re: universal health care vs private health care
« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2010, 01:51:53 AM »
http://mediamattersaction.org/factcheck/201003170001

This was presented as evidence that the healthcare bill isn't a financial sinkhole.  People told me it was a great site for balanced fact checking but I'm finding myself somewhat unconvinced of this as I pored through it.
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