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Podcast for 11 June 2017
« on: June 11, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »


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Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 01:10:53 PM »
Here's a vid of a young Iman in Australia who's challenging Linda Sarsour and her claims that Mohamed was various kinds of Progressive.  I've seen other vids of him challenging the loudest Muslim factions (which may or may not be the most numerous, it's hard to tell when you can't really be sure if Muslims say they support horrible things when asked by polsters because they actually do support horrible things or because they aren't really sure they are polsters and aren't actually from the monsterous side is Islam out trolling for moderates to purge).



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Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2017, 10:00:34 PM »
Here's a vid of a young Iman in Australia who's challenging Linda Sarsour and her claims that Mohamed was various kinds of Progressive.  I've seen other vids of him challenging the loudest Muslim factions (which may or may not be the most numerous, it's hard to tell when you can't really be sure if Muslims say they support horrible things when asked by polsters because they actually do support horrible things or because they aren't really sure they are polsters and aren't actually from the monsterous side is Islam out trolling for moderates to purge).



I couldn't make sense of the last part.

He BTW is a Shi'ite. You can tell from the age he gives for the marriage mentioned (That and his comments about Bukhari). EDIT: oh, and the dress.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 10:15:46 PM by Ibrahim90 »
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Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 04:48:27 PM »
I couldn't make sense of the last part.

OK, we know that there are people in many Muslim communities who will murder people for disagreeing with them.  This includes other Muslims because they believe anyone who disagrees with them cannot actually be a Muslim.  Faced with this reality, there are going to be some Muslims who will, when asked by a random unknown person, say things that agree with the murderous people's opinions because they are scared the person asking the questions actually works for the murderous people and is looking for those who disagree with them.  In the case of countries like Saudi Arabia, this is made far worse by the fact that these people control government power.  (This can also occur in places like the UK, which has Muslim communities so insular that there are significant fractions of the population who think the UK is a Muslim-majority country where this sort of thing is entirely plausible.)

If you were stuck in Saudi Arabia, you'd probably be really careful what you said to random strangers who asked sensitive questions.  If you wrongly thought you were in a country like Saudi Arabia, you'd be similarly careful.

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Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 07:56:58 PM »
OK, we know that there are people in many Muslim communities who will murder people for disagreeing with them.  This includes other Muslims because they believe anyone who disagrees with them cannot actually be a Muslim.  Faced with this reality, there are going to be some Muslims who will, when asked by a random unknown person, say things that agree with the murderous people's opinions because they are scared the person asking the questions actually works for the murderous people and is looking for those who disagree with them.  In the case of countries like Saudi Arabia, this is made far worse by the fact that these people control government power.  (This can also occur in places like the UK, which has Muslim communities so insular that there are significant fractions of the population who think the UK is a Muslim-majority country where this sort of thing is entirely plausible.)

If you were stuck in Saudi Arabia, you'd probably be really careful what you said to random strangers who asked sensitive questions.  If you wrongly thought you were in a country like Saudi Arabia, you'd be similarly careful.

Oh, that?

Yeah, that's normal, unfortunately.

There was a video a while back where Bassem Yousseff brought this up--at least a partial example (EDIT: to be clear, what was going on here is that the guy he's targeting was insinuating that certain people were blasphemers):


Part of me wonders if the same isn't going on with the two-party system to a lesser extent.

EDIT: However, I'm not sure the difference is all that large though. The only place it seems to be different is the US, but there the communities are not insular, but instead form a melting-pot. Lord knows, it helped liberalize me being part of the larger community.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 12:07:09 AM by Ibrahim90 »
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