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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #5055 on: January 26, 2017, 06:02:16 PM »
"The antiwar left vacated when Obama took office.

The anti-corruption right disappeared when Trump became president.

Watch the light where roaches scatter."―Jeremy Harding, via Facebook
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole worldó'No. You move.'"
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« Reply #5056 on: January 27, 2017, 05:24:31 PM »
"If the president can have alternative facts, then I will follow alternative laws." óSean Haugh

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« Reply #5057 on: February 06, 2017, 10:55:17 PM »
"Caught in an insoluble contradiction are those believers in the free market and private property who still uphold immigration barriers. They can do so only if they concede that the State is the owner of all property, but in that case they cannot have true private property in their system at all."—Rothbard, Man, Economy and State

Rothbard, kicking ass and taking names from the grave.  Gods, I miss him. T_T
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« Reply #5058 on: February 07, 2017, 07:00:11 AM »
I'll see your Rothbard and raise you Harry Browne:

"Yes, by all means, it is time to give the government more power. After all, it has done such a good job with the War on Drugs, the War on Illiteracy, the War on Poverty, and the so-called War on Terrorism. What we need is a Department of Immigration Security and a bigger budget--along with more power for immigration officers to invade private businesses looking for illegals, a national identity card, authority for policemen to stop anyone on the street to 'ask for your papers.' I'm sure that within two years, there won't be a single illegal immigrant left in America."

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« Reply #5059 on: February 08, 2017, 09:39:38 PM »
Bork! RARF! D: D: Well played Shane!

Does that description of his also sound like East and/or Nazi Germany to you?  Knowing Browne, I suspect that was part of his point.

And speaking of Harry Browne, more awesomeness from him:
"Immigrants create demand rather than take jobs away

Four worries drive most of the opposition to immigration:
1) JOBS: A new immigrant brings with him a need for products and services-which his job gives him the money to buy. So the immigrant has no net effect on the competition for jobs or the level of wages. Immigrants don’t take jobs away from Americans. They increase the demand for labor and they help meet that demand.
2) WELFARE: The answer is to stop providing taxpayer-supported welfare to anyone-immigrant or citizen.
3) CULTURE: The answer to the culture problem isn’t to keep immigrants out, but to restore the America of free individuals, each responsible and self-governing. Immigrants will embrace our culture more quickly when government stops trying to dissolve it.
4) NOT ENOUGH ROOM: The US is still a country of wide open spaces. America could triple its population without our existing cities growing any faster than they do now.

Source: The Great Libertarian Offer, p.172-173 , Sep 9, 2000 "— http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Harry_Browne_Immigration.htm
^This is a special one.  It was the bit that helped convince our own Dave to no longer be anti-immigrant. X3

And since we're on the topic of Harry Browne: 

"A free country has no issue with people coming and going, but a welfare state is scared to death of every rich person who can get out and every poor person who can get in."— http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-to-Argue-for-Immigration-Restrictions-555001819

Semi-off topic, but all this hoopla over immigration reminds me of that one classic Simpsons episode where their mayor was caught in a huge spending scandal, and so he used the scapegoat/distraction of illegal immigrants.  And it totally worked.  As in, his scandal is not brought up for the rest of the episode (or series).  Why do I get the impression this kind of thing is happening now;  AND has happened many times before?
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #5060 on: February 09, 2017, 08:52:01 PM »
*Standing Ovation!*
I don't get the crap people throw at Milo.  He doesn't come off as "racist, sexist, Nazi, etc."
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« Reply #5061 on: February 12, 2017, 04:25:02 PM »
*Standing Ovation!*
I don't get the crap people throw at Milo.  He doesn't come off as "racist, sexist, Nazi, etc."

They're clearly afraid of what he'll say.

EDIT: and I put this here, if only because I can respect what he is doing here. He made a mistake, he owned up to it:

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"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

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« Reply #5062 on: February 14, 2017, 04:40:39 PM »
They're clearly afraid of what he'll say.

EDIT: and I put this here, if only because I can respect what he is doing here. He made a mistake, he owned up to it:

I heard a bit about that from Teal Deer, but, true to his name, couldn't be assed to watch the entire video.  I got the basic idea of what happened, but it's good to know Sargon owned up to it.
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #5063 on: February 14, 2017, 04:57:34 PM »
"The antiwar left vacated when Obama took office.

The anti-corruption right disappeared when Trump became president.

Watch the light where roaches scatter."―Jeremy Harding, via Facebook

As sort of a spiritual sequel to the above:

Something tells me Watson is going to be completely silent on all this expansion of govco now that Trump is doing it.  Just like conservatives were with both Bushes, Reagan, etc, and Liberals with Hillary, Obama, Bill Clinton, etc.  Same business as usual.  The pendulum swings in the opposite direction, but doesn't deviate from its pivot.

I still remember hearing of liberals back in the 60s and 70s.  Turns out, they didn't give a shit for anyone but themselves.  Certainly not for conservatives or libertarians.  Wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing with conservatives in the next decade or two, with libertarians still taking it like we always have. :(

That being said, his video, on the surface, makes sense.  You can't be both winners of the culture war (or, 'Will of We The People(TM)' as they like to call it) AND the counterculture at the same time.  Those two things are mutually exclusive, so pick one, liberals.
Just like the Conservative Christians who, back in the day, would say, "THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION!" and, "Halp! We am being oppressed! D:" Again, given that we're a democracy, those two are mutually exclusive.  Pick one.

By Paul Joseph Watson's logic, libertarianism is the original and ultimate counterculture, and until the state is dead and buried, will remain that way indefinitely.
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Re: Fav quotes
« Reply #5064 on: February 14, 2017, 06:33:53 PM »
https://fee.org/articles/marx-the-man/

You know how we say communism killed 100 million people in the 20th century alone, not counting war?  Turns out, it was closer to about 200 million people.

Also, fair warning, lots of use of the n-word in that article.  Thankfully, it's only used when quoting Marx.  Calling him a massive piece of shit was an understatement.  He is so much like the Marxists and socialists of today.

This article also debunks the "good intentions" excuse of communists.  Given the playbook itself was mass murder, and repression.
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« Reply #5065 on: February 14, 2017, 10:17:52 PM »
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole worldó'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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« Reply #5066 on: February 15, 2017, 07:02:33 AM »
You know how we say communism killed 100 million people in the 20th century alone, not counting war?  Turns out, it was closer to about 200 million people.

I think the 100 million was just Mao.

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« Reply #5067 on: February 15, 2017, 10:33:13 AM »
I think the 100 million was just Mao.

There's a lot of slop in that number, too.  The Great Leap Forward (of the damn CLIFF) might have starved a few as 23 million to death, or as many as 55 million, depending on who's estimates you take, so we've got one fairly short period in which the uncertainty is a full third of the estimate for the whole of Mao's rule.

To put Mao into historical perspective, he killed more Chinese people than the Plague.

And people in China mostly don't know about it.  The ones born afterwards mostly just know the ones who were young then are real assholes now, and it's not going to be a safe topic of inquiry, like any of the other crimes committed by the Party.

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« Reply #5068 on: February 20, 2017, 10:11:34 PM »
"We all teach by example, whether we want to or not."―Anarchyball's Rasta Monkey:  https://www.facebook.com/855268567920407/photos/a.855368641243733.1073741828.855268567920407/1142177465896181/?type=3&theater

*Standing Ovation!* I just wish more people understood that. :)
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« Reply #5069 on: February 22, 2017, 03:06:54 PM »
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."―Lao Tzu
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole worldó'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537