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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2013, 02:27:56 AM »

Some of this is sensationalism but point still stands

It can be quite easy to get an illegal gun

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2013, 01:45:48 AM »
This is an ATF report about the drug cartels using COUNTERFEIT M16s and M203 grenade launchers. They captured 41 m16 copies and 34 m203 launchers

http://www.cryptocomb.org/ATFE%20Mexico%20Counterfeit%20Colt%20M16A2%20Rifles%20and%20M203%20Grenade%20Launchers.pdf

They say that the Cartels might have made these clones.This is all speculation but it is a possibility The misspelling of the word "government", the letter "N" being missing is a sign that they could have been manufactured by the illegal gunsmiths in the Darra region of Pakistan. The gun-makers there are sometimes known for making typos when trying to replicate markings on the cloned guns. They also sometimes make some errors like leaving some parts out or adding addition parts on guns where they shouldn't be.


Skip to 5:01 and watch to 5:05 on the video(above) and turn captions on before watching.

"Made AS China." not "Made IN China"

See what I mean?

For more info look at article bellow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pass_Copy

Be careful with these guns tho. Some of them are good quality and some are basically bombs in your hand.
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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2013, 07:02:44 AM »
They say that the Cartels might have made these clones.This is all speculation but it is a possibility The misspelling of the word "government", the letter "N" being missing is a sign that they could have been manufactured by the illegal gunsmiths in the Darra region of Pakistan. The gun-makers there are sometimes known for making typos when trying to replicate markings on the cloned guns. They also sometimes make some errors like leaving some parts out or adding addition parts on guns where they shouldn't be.

I can't help wondering if that might be deliberate, kind of a sneaky way of seeing where your guns are going without using serial numbers.

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2013, 07:19:53 AM »
I can't help wondering if that might be deliberate, kind of a sneaky way of seeing where your guns are going without using serial numbers.

The misspellings and grammatical errors are probably more effective for that, since missing/extra parts are the sort of problem that is likely to be noticed and fixed, while a misspelled marking is unlikely to be noticed (particularly if the users of the guns are mostly not native speakers of the language the markings are in) and unlikely to be corrected if noticed.

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2013, 02:03:49 PM »
I can't help wondering if that might be deliberate, kind of a sneaky way of seeing where your guns are going without using serial numbers.

There is also an advantage for a  gun not to have serial numbers. It makes it more difficult to trace

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2013, 03:14:37 AM »
http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=9290.0

I was searching the net for more on black market firearm manufacturing in the philippines. I came across this forum.

The guys on this forum page say they have seen M653s aka M16A1 carbines



S&W pattern revolvers. .357 and .38



Ingram pattern machine pistols



All of them locally made by the underground gunsmiths.



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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2013, 02:55:01 PM »
http://www.unodc.org/documents/toc/Reports/TOCTASouthAmerica/English/TOCTA_CACaribb_firearmssmuggling_within_CAmerica.pdf

It turns out assault rifles even in war torn nations are not the most popular weapons around.

Handguns are the most popular weapons among criminals.

Some of the best places to get illegal guns in in Nicaragua. For example, a Turkish ship with 900 pistols and shotguns was headed to Nicaraguan port.

Corrupt Government Official (Like I have shown in the previous post).

I do not believe the solution recomended in this report will work because of the massive corruption in central America.

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2013, 06:25:04 PM »
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/09/state-police-arsenal-raided-in.html

43 H&K G-36 assault rifles, 26 9mm handguns, Body armor and Grenades stolen. Enough fire power to equip a platoon of soldiers.





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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2013, 01:49:06 PM »
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/ms-13-used-just-32-guns-to-kill-over-200-people-in-guatemala

The article says that pistols are the most popular weapons among the MS street gang in Guatemala and 85 percent of those pistols are STOLEN from local and national law enforcement.

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Re: The Black Market for Firearms
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2013, 02:26:51 PM »
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/weapons-ammo-stolen-from-honduras-police-warehouse

300 automatic rifles,




hundreds of thousands of ammunition,



body armor



and other misc weapons go missing from honduran police armory.

Warehouses were under 24 hour surveillance.

Authorities say this could not have happened unless criminals had insiders in the police.

 
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