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The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 13 May 2018
« on: May 15, 2018, 10:53:38 PM »
All that does is increase the chances of a false positive. With the tiny amount of true positives they have, they'll waste FAR more resources checking out the dead ends. And again, we have no way of knowing the rate of false negatives.

From a Bayesian standpoint, being pegged by this system means you're more likely to be an innocent than someone they're looking for. The more hay you add, the more hay gets detected as needles, even if you do manage to put the odd needle in while you're doing it.

Actually, assuming those 19 million are actually people they're looking for, at that level the odds are swinging back in favor of real detections.  That slice ALONE is about 30% of the UK's population.  Once you're looking for everyone, there's no such thing as a false positive.  Of course, it also means you don't get to follow up on anything, either.

The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 13 May 2018
« on: May 14, 2018, 01:09:27 PM »
I think you're haystack analogy doesn't quite work like that.  The UK police are trying to find specific needles in a needlestack.  Given that they are planning on putting 19 million MORE faces into the database to be looked for, they will have a substantial percentage of the population of the UK in the system.  Given the vagaries of appearance and recognition, there are bound to be several people whom human strangers would be hard pressed to quickly differentiate between given photo references (and we're pretty good at telling each other apart, certainly better than most image recognition systems are going to be), never mind if the computers can tell them apart by whatever criteria they're using.

General Discussion / Sargon needs some help
« on: May 04, 2018, 04:54:35 PM »
Sargon miscalculated a bit financially with all his recent travels (apparently his travel was paid for by someone else, but not all the sundries that go along with travel) and he's not got the money to continue defending the law suit.  Here's his gofundme for it:

He's doing extremely well on this, he asked for 40,000 and has well over 50,000 in 9 hours as of this writing, so he should be fine for now, but some extra cushion in these things is never a bad thing.

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: May 02, 2018, 04:36:16 PM »
A most excellent speech by Sargon yesterday:

It is interesting that I can hardly tell the difference between the messages Sargon and Stephan are putting out these days.

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: May 02, 2018, 04:34:02 PM »
That looks different to the one we used, but it DEFINITELY had an effect. Cows did NOT like it. And it was MUCH more annoying to them than being poked with a stick.

Also, if they can be shocked by an electric fence (and they CAN), why wouldn't a cattle prod work?

Sheep apparently are rather a different matter.  They're notorious for ignoring electric fencing (unless recently shorn) due to their wool being an excellent insulator.  (Notice the type of shirt Big Clive is wearing in the video is conventionally made of wool.)

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: April 28, 2018, 08:30:26 PM »
Unlike my previous drunken rant on SCP-3999, this is SCP-3900, which is really, REALLY funny (and, I suppose, could be considered frightening if you look at it the right way, theoretically the SCP foundation is a horror site):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

General Discussion / Re: WTF
« on: April 22, 2018, 03:34:57 PM »
If SCP has been discussed elsewhere on this forum then all I can do is apologize for a redundant post.  So yeah sometimes you just gotta go to SCP Explained.

SCP-3999 doesn't need explanation, it needs deletion.  It's not difficult, it's STUPID.  This isn't an example of any sort of complex and clever writing, it's the prose equivalent of word salad.

Internally, this isn't the result of a contained SCP, but the only way for the documentation to be almost entirely corruption (to the extent half of it is a corrupted copy of a different SCP's documentation) is for the SCP to be contained and gotten access to it's documentation.

This is actually a great deal like the horrendous editing of The Difference Engine that left a third of the book filled with similar random nonsense.

General Discussion / Re: WTF
« on: April 22, 2018, 02:56:29 PM »
Being drunk, I failed to mention that I've ready many hundreds of these things and listened to dozens of these readings on multiple YouTube channels.

I've come to the conclusion that this thing of simply garbage and the fact it has been passed through the development and review process eliminates any reason to think that the SCP Wiki contains any worthwhile writing.

General Discussion / WTF
« on: April 21, 2018, 06:30:31 PM »
OK, I'm quite drunk and only half-way through this, but WTF AM I LISTENING TO?

This sounds like a self-removing problem, in that anyone who does this has eliminated themselves from further anything.

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: April 17, 2018, 12:50:59 PM »
I'm just wondering how it passes First Amendment muster. Also, what does "influencing" mean? It sounds like the thing they use to stop people passing out FIJA fliers.

I suspect that it is the law they use to stop people passing out FIJA fliers (in those jurisdictions that don't have laws specifically have laws recognizing Nullification, as some states do).

It is generally the case that provisions of the 1st Amendment are not held to immunize actions that would fall under criminal statutes if conducted by different means.  There are other sections that cover other means of attempting to improperly affecting various officials and witnesses, and are usually stronger in their wording.

"Influencing" is usually pretty obvious from what the demonstrators are saying, doing, and have put on their signs.  Note that even violence doesn't seem to get this law actually applied, even in instances when it is quite clear what the rioters are trying to do, as is usually the case when BAMN riots outside a court hearing.

OK, here's the transcript from his 20/20 interview:

And I think he just managed to talk himself into a stay in Federal prison.  How?  He's claiming there's evidence, that he knew about while still FBI director, that Trump attempted to obstruct justice.  The reason this is a problem for COMEY (much more so than Trump, because nobody seems to really think what Trump did was obstruction except partisans like Comey) is that if he actually thinks he witnessed President Trump attempt to obstruct justice while he was FBI Director, and didn't report it to the Justice Department (which we already know he didn't) then he violated 18 U.S. Code 4 - Misprision of felony.  (There's a fun one for you, knowing about the commission of a felony and not reporting it to appropriate authorities with all possible speed is, in itself, a felony under the usual definition of 'felony' used in US Federal law.)

(I also find it rather amusing there's a mention of his wife telling him to not be 'the torture guy,' probably in early 2004, when he later endorsed color of law cover for torture in 2005.)

(Incidentally, I think I found a provision the covers Hillary's private email server, 18 U.S. Code 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material at

It specifies an offense involving unauthorized removal of classified documents or materials to store them in an unauthorized place.  Since Hillary definitely lacked authority to remove the classification from materials classified by any Department other than State, and she intentionally stored them in her unauthorized private email server, it sure looks like she violated that one hundreds of times.)

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: April 17, 2018, 10:50:46 AM »
Here's a kind of interesting thing I ran across while looking for a different statute, 18 U.S. Code 1507 - Picketing or parading:

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

Doesn't that sound like the EXACT intentions of BAMN when they show up at a courthouse where a hearing about the mandating of racism is occurring?  How does it come to pass that none of them ever end up in prison for that?

General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« on: April 16, 2018, 03:47:25 PM »
OK, a really nice and clever picture that brings somebody who's death got overshadowed back in:

So, this takes some background, most of which you can get at the page the picture came from:

Pitre is Johnathan Pitre, who was Canadian, and recently died of complications from an experimental treatment for Epidermolysis_bullosa.  EB had prevented him from playing any sports, and he always had wanted to play hockey.

The Humbolt Broncos are a Canadian junior hockey team who were on a bus trip to a playoff game two days after Johnathan's death when there was a horrific crash with a semi.  Of the 29 people on the bus, 15 died at the scene and a 16th has since died in hospital.

The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 8 April 2018
« on: April 10, 2018, 10:10:44 AM »
If someone succeeded in building a third-party access to crypto that only worked for the US government, the immediate effect would be the abject failure of every product incorporating it, since all foreign governments would automatically prohibit internal use of all such products and anyone who needed to interact with those systems would have to not use those products as well.

In the little detail of the recent Florida school shooter, not only did law enforcement not react to his public posting of plans to attack the school, they didn't react when it was specifically reported to them.  The FBI somehow forgot to investigate entirely when they received reports of his postings, and the existing supervision he had been under ignored the fact that their previous decision that he didn't need any intervention because he was in school and living with his mother was no longer valid because of him having been thrown out of school and his mother having died.

Actually, Apple and Microsoft are a poor analogy for the F-35 communications system failure, since the current and recent OS versions from them can communicate over a network without any difficulty at all (and have for a long time, actually), and they can also read each other's disks with easily available software.  Since they both run on the same processors now, it also isn't excessively difficult to make the binaries for one run on the other, needing only a suitable OS call translation layer.  (In other words, precisely WHY is anyone running a Mac these days?  It's the same performance you could get under Windows about two years ago for about twice the price of a current Windows machine.)

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