Fail Quotes

[Travis Retriever]

From the comments of this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQfpvQKUodY
As usual, fails in red, wins in blue.

FletchforFreedom:  "@BeauJames59 As, of course, the market (capitalism) you denigrate is entirely responsible for 300 years of improved living standards, better health and longer life spans while the innocent children suffering in Iraq are not doing so as the result of capitalism and as NO ONE is known to be dying from radiation poisoning in Japan (albeit the 50 volunteers fighting to fix it may) due to an ACCIDENT (not capitalism), all you've demonstrated is the bankruptcy of your position..."

Me:  "@FletchforFreedom
Not to mention all the wars he uses to diatribe capitalism are fought by government, which makes them socialist by definition.
So basically his reasoning is. War is evil, therefore we need to give more power to the institution that makes war possible in the first place.
Statist Logic: It's the equivalent of dividing by zero."

xexixk:  "@vspqbd Is it a "socialist" war if it is a war as the result of government collusion with big business in order to gain access to or control of some natural recource which those businesses will then profit from? Read War is a Racket by Gen. Smedley Butler"
(When did I say war WASN'T a racket?  And if he thinks socialism is mutually exclusive from rackets, he's beyond help.)

Me:  "Yes."

xexixk:  "@vspqbd LOL So a war on behalf of a corporation to help them get access to or control of resources is a socialist war? That makes no sense. Socialism doesn't = collusiton of business and government. Corporatism yes. Socialism no."
(So how are corporatism and socialism mutually exclusive?  He never explains that bit.  Does he not know the definition of socialism?  Government ownership of capital.  Government owned the capital where they go to war, ergo war is a subset of socialism.  I mean, duh.  His whole post just reeks of what we now call the piety fallacy:  INTENTIONS ARE IRRELEVANT.  They really need to understand that.
Last I checked, the corporatism is just socialism for the big players.  Or, more specifically, corporatism is a subtle form of fascism.  And fascism is indistinguishable economically from socialism.  Simple as that.)

[AnCap Dave]

@DJYC21215 Fucking idiot socialism supports the idea of freedom of information. Stupid brainwashed yanks.

>socialism
>supporting freedom and not government bullshit


BWAHAHAHAHA

[AnCap Dave]

Argument for the Existence of a Necessary Being (God)

1) Anything that exists is either
a) contingent = it is possible for it to not exist (might not have existence)
or b) not contingent = it is not possible for it not to exist (must exist)

2) If something is contingent there must be some explanation for why it does in fact exist

3) The explanation for the existence of a contingent thing must involve something other than itself and its parts (cause and effect)

4) The totality of all contingent things "T" is contingent.

5) There must be an explanation for "T"

6)The explanation for the existence of "T" must be outside of "T" and its parts.

7)The explanation for the existence of "T" must be something that is not contingent and must exist.

There is a necessary being = God.

Religious nonsense is a funny thing sometimes. Most times though, it's just a headache.

[AnCap Dave]

More comments in regard to a video spreading around about that streaming bill:

this has fuck all to do with communists, this is entirely the doing of capitalism

corporatjsm has only come about and only has power due to capitalism

because the goverment is capitalist it is in their interests to support corporations

It gets worse with each reply.....

there are lots of different types of capitalsim besides free market capitalism, state capitalism, mercantalism etc. It its obviously in the interest of the goverment to support corporations in certain areas because they help to improve the economy

Now that's just full of shit.

[AnCap Dave]

"People seem to not realize that the founding fathers actually wanted central government." - ABC's This Week.

[MrBogosity]

"People seem to not realize that the founding fathers actually wanted central government." - ABC's This Week.

Man...got a video source for that one?

[AnCap Dave]

Man...got a video source for that one?

It was just on television 20 minutes ago.

You'd have to wait until the segment appears on youtube.

Oh, and of course they had the token black guy on the panel who basically tried to bury the Constitution because the founders had slaves.

[MrBogosity]

Ah yes, the old, "You want to go back to the Constitution--that means you want slavery!" Uh, 13th Amendment, guys? The Constitution BANS slavery.

[AnCap Dave]

Ah yes, the old, "You want to go back to the Constitution--that means you want slavery!" Uh, 13th Amendment, guys? The Constitution BANS slavery.

Not to mention, when they bury guys like Washington and Jefferson, they fail to realize that the only reason they kept their slaves in the first place was because of Virginia law stating that slaves that are set free are open to being rounded up again later on, and so they kept their slaves to protect them from people who would treat them far worse.

[MrBogosity]

Not to mention, when they bury guys like Washington and Jefferson, they fail to realize that the only reason they kept their slaves in the first place was because of Virginia law stating that slaves that are set free are open to being rounded up again later on, and so they kept their slaves to protect them from people who would treat them far worse.

Correct, and moving into another state wouldn't have helped them, because even so-called "free states" had a policy of removing freed slaves back to the states where they came from. Don't want THEM taking OUR jobs, you know...

Washington freed his slaves the only way he legally could: in his will. By the time Jefferson had died, they had closed that loophole.

[Travis Retriever]

Not to mention, when they bury guys like Washington and Jefferson, they fail to realize that the only reason they kept their slaves in the first place was because of Virginia law stating that slaves that are set free are open to being rounded up again later on, and so they kept their slaves to protect them from people who would treat them far worse.

For pointing this out, you get an anti-bogon.

[AnCap Dave]

Okay, so unfortunately they didn't put the piece before the roundtable discussion on youtube, but the discussion itself is up.

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[Lord T Hawkeye]

Stefan has said that Jefferson raped his slaves.  Anyone wanna buzz in on that?

[MrBogosity]

There's no evidence of that. The only evidence there is for a sexual relationship is with Sally Hemmings (and even that's sketchy; there's evidence it may have been an uncle instead), and there's no evidence that was anything other than consensual.

[AnCap Dave]

I hate this idea that the only reason why anyone may ever oppose gay marriage is LOL GOD SAID NOT TO. I'm personally an atheist and don't support it either because I don't support gay adoption. I'm adopted and had several foster siblings growing up and know for a fact that there are more hetero couples looking to adopt, that could give a kid the mother and father they deserve, than there are kids actually needing adopted. I'd rather see kids and poor barren mothers get a family than see some gays get a human for a pet.

Talk about despicable.