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Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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Woebegone has an... "interesting" argument against free-market healthcare:



I admit, it took me a moment to catch the obvious problem.
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

Quote from: Altimadark on January 25, 2017, 09:43:13 PM
Woebegone has an... "interesting" argument against free-market healthcare:



I admit, it took me a moment to catch the obvious problem.

Most don't make 1700 a day

some places charge that per month.

What's the connection again?
"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

-Jesse Cox

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 29, 2017, 02:55:35 PM
Most don't make 1700 a day

some places charge that per month.

What's the connection again?

He thinks there was no government involvement in health care when Dubya was president.

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 29, 2017, 02:55:35 PM
Most don't make 1700 a day

some places charge that per month.

What's the connection again?

On top of that, he's using the cost of COBRA as an example of a lack of government intervention... When COBRA is government intervention. Seems like a Love Canal fallacy to me. :p
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 29, 2017, 03:22:13 PM
He thinks there was no government involvement in health care when Dubya was president.

Oh, I got that.

I just don't get his logic.
"All you guys complaining about the possibility of guy on guy relationships...you're also denying us girl on girl.  Works both ways if you know what I mean"

-Jesse Cox

He's trying to counter the argument that you couldn't get a years' HC coverage for a day's wages back before govt got involved.
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

Intolerant Liberals

QuoteI have some difficult news for everyone: Progressives aren't interested in diversity. We aren't interested in inclusion. We aren't interested in tolerance. The progressives I know give exactly zero shits about those things.

We have no interest in everyone getting treated the same. We have no interest in giving all ideas equal airtime. We have no interest in "tolerating" all beliefs. I don't know where this fairy tale comes from, but it's completely disconnected from every experience I've had with progressive liberal folks in my lifetime.

When conservatives cross their arms and glare and shout "It's not fair! You're supposed to welcome everyone but you aren't being nice to me!" it stings about as much as if they shouted, "It's not fair, you're supposed to be wearing tutus and juggling flaming donuts!"

The progressive liberal agenda isn't about being nice. It's about confronting evil, violence, trauma, and death. It's about acknowledging the ways systemic power, systemic oppression, systemic evil, work in our world around us. I'm not fighting for diversity. I'm not fighting for tolerance. I'm fighting to overturn horrific systems of dehumanizing oppression.

In the words of Christopher Walker, "This guy, is un-f***ing believable!"

I pretty much wrote a lengthy rebuttal to his bogosity.


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: Altimadark on January 30, 2017, 10:28:00 PM
He's trying to counter the argument that you couldn't get a years' HC coverage for a day's wages back before govt got involved.

And the specific fail is him thinking he's talking about a time before massive government intervention in health care in the US.  You have to go back 60-70 years to get back to before the MASSIVE interventions, and pretty much back into the 19th century to get close to a real free market.



Good grief! The statist who made this is projecting so hard that you can use him to put on a Star Trek movie marathon.


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on February 16, 2017, 02:45:25 PM


Good grief! The statist who made this is projecting so hard that you can use him to put on a Star Trek movie marathon.
I'd point them to anarchyball.  Nearly half of their posts are ripping "An"coms a new one.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: BlameThe1st on February 16, 2017, 02:45:25 PM


Good grief! The statist who made this is projecting so hard that you can use him to put on a Star Trek movie marathon.

And not even looking at their own terms.  Precisely how is any sort of anarchism going to be any form of statism?  Terminology can't be valid and contradict itself.

The other weirdness here is how rarely there's anyone limited to a single employer, which cannot happen without massive state intervention (of kinds that are usually explicitly illegal in most Western states), and even then it's rare for it to actually work on anything but the most local level.  (Even the classical example of the company mining town rarely works.  It is extremely unusual, even with massive state intervention, for there to be no other mines in the region.  Mines tend to cluster because deposits tend to cluster.  If you're experience in mining one type of material, much of your skills will likely transfer to mining other materials.)

Here's the way I say it:

What if I *want* to use money, work for a business owner,  be a tenant in rental property, etc?  Will you use force to stop me?

If so, you just formed a state.  You're not an anarchist.

If not, congratulations, you're a capitalist.

Simple, no?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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Looks like we have some fresh meat on our hands. This guy is a major SJW, from the looks of his channel, a real HBomberguy wannabee: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJnucewF46pFN74GDfLDZBA

Could make for some fresh bogosity material for Lord Killian to tackle.


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on February 26, 2017, 05:57:47 PM
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Looks like we have some fresh meat on our hands. This guy is a major SJW, from the looks of his channel, a real HBomberguy wannabee: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJnucewF46pFN74GDfLDZBA

Could make for some fresh bogosity material for Lord Killian to tackle.

Seems like just another "But that's not REAL Socialism!" poser.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on February 07, 2017, 04:03:39 PM
Intolerant Liberals

In the words of Christopher Walker, "This guy, is un-f***ing believable!"

I pretty much wrote a lengthy rebuttal to his bogosity.

If you eliminate that last paragraph, it's an astoundingly accurate statement. Replace the final paragraph with "use force to oppose everything that disagrees with me" and... Ta-Da!