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Podcast for 7-18-2011

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July 17, 2011, 05:04:01 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2011, 03:26:38 PM by MrBogosity
[bogosity-podcast]https://bogosity.podbean.com/mf/web/hs2evm/BogosityPodcast-7-18-2011.mp3[/bogosity-podcast]

Update: Casey Anthony juror #3 breaks her silence http://www.woio.com/story/15078841/casey-anthony-juror-3-breaks-her-silence

News of the Bogus:


Biggest Bogon Emitter: Sens. Jay Rockefeller, Barbara Boxer, Frank Lautenberg, and Peter King http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/idUS20734472720110713

Idiot Extraordinaire: Sen. Mitch McConnell http://nation.foxnews.com/eric-holder/2011/07/11/holder-wants-try-terrorists-same-civilian-courts-let-casey-anthony-free

This Week's Quote: “Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable...Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.” —Martin Luther King, Jr.
July 17, 2011, 06:01:26 PM #1
That idiot Nancy Grace was on Good Morning America this morning claiming that there is no reason to believe that there would be vigilante threats on Casey Anthony's life, yet in Oklahoma a woman was run down on the highway because she LOOKED like Casey Anthony. This is absolutely despicable. This juror has to actually worry about her own well being and safety because the emotionally driven lynch mobs have no respect for the rules of evidence. Shame on ALL of you America. Your frame of thought that your emotions and your speculations are more important than hard evidence is what causes this to happen. It is times like these that you make me sick.

That story about the woman who is being jailed for gardening makes me absolutely sick. Luckily, I don't live in an area with such absurd laws. At my dad's place, we have a garden right behind the driveway, which is directly connected to the front yard. The idea that government refuses to accept property rights is completely absurd. "That's not what we want to see in a front yard," said Oak Park City Planner Kevin Rulkowski. My question is, who in the f*ck are you to make such a decision on someone else's property?
July 17, 2011, 06:41:46 PM #2
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2011, 05:04:01 PMThis Week's Quote: "Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable...Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals." —Martin Luther King, Jr.

Courtesy of false morality.

As for the jurors, does this mean they are eligible for a silver cluon award?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
July 17, 2011, 06:46:47 PM #3 Last Edit: July 17, 2011, 07:01:15 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
Regarding the 93 in jail woman for growing food on her property...Yet another leap in Plank #1 of the communist manifesto in this country. As for her, AND the party buster and the innocent person in jail for 4 years, more reasons why government law = bullshit.  Anarchic polycentric law ftw. 8)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
July 17, 2011, 07:03:54 PM #4
Okay, at the beginning I said "the jurors believed she was innocent" when I meant "the jurors believed she was guilty." The sad part is, I was reading from a script...
July 17, 2011, 07:05:00 PM #5
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2011, 07:03:54 PM
Okay, at the beginning I said "the jurors believed she was innocent" when I meant "the jurors believed she was guilty." The sad part is, I was reading from a script...
I thought something was a bit off in the beginning.  Kudos to Libertarianist for pointing out the error. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
July 17, 2011, 07:51:50 PM #6
I think I may need a break from all this news. My blood pressure is probably through the roof because I've been getting so pissed off over the crazy nonsense in our government and in society in general. My mother just noticed how bright red my face is right now, and this was just after posting all these articles on Facebook.
July 17, 2011, 08:05:12 PM #7
Just remember how many good things there are in the world and your life. Most people are still nice, wonderful people, and we need to appreciate them in our daily lives.
July 17, 2011, 08:41:00 PM #8
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Just remember how many good things there are in the world and your life. Most people are still nice, wonderful people, and we need to appreciate them in our daily lives.
Thanks.  I needed that too.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
July 17, 2011, 09:36:42 PM #9
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Just remember how many good things there are in the world and your life. Most people are still nice, wonderful people, and we need to appreciate them in our daily lives.

If it makes you feel any better, I'm currently watching the best wrestling ppv this year.....HOOOOOO LAWDIE!
July 17, 2011, 09:41:47 PM #10
Nah, but new episodes of Torchwood and Futurama are keeping me going.
July 18, 2011, 08:04:31 AM #11
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Just remember how many good things there are in the world and your life. Most people are still nice, wonderful people, and we need to appreciate them in our daily lives.

To steal a quote from sfdebris, perhaps today won't be the day I stick my head in a warp core. =P
July 18, 2011, 09:07:09 AM #12
Well, I'm already receiving comments on Facebook. Here is one from my aunt about how we have more prisoners in this country than anywhere else.

QuoteDon't forget that we have privatized many prisons. There is a profit to be made.

This seems rather irrelevant really. If we stopped arresting people for victimless crimes, then the prisons wouldn't be filled up anyway. This just sounds like complaining over the private sector more than anything else.
July 18, 2011, 09:23:48 AM #13
Yes, I mean, it's not like those private prisons decide how many people get convicted! That's still up to the courts.
July 18, 2011, 10:24:31 AM #14
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 18, 2011, 09:23:48 AM
Yes, I mean, it's not like those private prisons decide how many people get convicted! That's still up to the courts.

Not only did I tell her that, but I told her that if it wasn't for the stupid victimless crime laws in the first place, they wouldn't even be arrested and what not. She put the following:

QuoteI agree and believe that many of those crimes were lobbied for and created because there is a profit to be made.

She also linked me to a post on democraticunderground.com

QuotePrisoners risking death by refusing food in the Pelican Bay supermax, and those hunger striking in solidarity in prisons around California are a judgment of our sickness. "The degree of civilization in a society," said Dostoyevsky, "can be judged by entering its prisons."

Civilization is something we no longer seem to aspire to. The United States locks up more people and a greater percentage of its people than anyone else. We lock them in training centers for anger and violence. We subject them to rape, assault, humiliation, and isolation. We throw the innocent in with the guilty, the young with the old, the nonviolent with the violent, the hopeful with those who've lost all interest in life.

And we routinely subject large numbers of prisoners to the torture of near-total isolation. We lock human beings in little boxes for 22 or 23 hours per day. When it's done to an accused whistleblower like Bradley Manning, we protest. But what about when it's done to thousands of people, many of them baselessly accused of being members of gangs? Where is the outrage?

We should be refusing to eat. We should be shutting down our government with nonviolent action. We should be risking the lives we have. Instead the burden has fallen to those who have little or no lives to risk. The prisoners themselves are taking action and gaining power from behind bars.

Look at the prisoners' demands. They want an end to group punishment of individual rules violations. That seems like a basic requirement of justice. Bombing a nation because some terrorists spent time there may make sense to our politicians, but it is horribly unjust to the people living and dying under the bombs. Stopping and searching people who look like they might be immigrants may make sense to those whose hatred of immigrants is distorting their thinking, but it is outrageously unjust from the perspective of the innocent people repeatedly harassed. Punishing everyone in a prison for something one person did make sense if the goal is cruelty. But will the innocent prisoners thus abused eventually emerge from prison believing they've been given fair treatment by a justice system with which they should comply? Or will they be released thirsting for vengeance?  Or thirst for vengeance while never being released? And will we be able to keep what we have done to them secret from ourselves?  Will we not continue to grow more ill?

They want an end to the use of completely unreliable criteria for labeling a prisoner a gang member and on that basis subjecting them to the torture of isolation. Should a tattoo or the word of someone offered decent food in exchange for a name really be the test of whether a human being should be placed at risk of severe mental damage? Should anything? Would we stand for another nation treating people this way? Don't tell me it's necessary and responsible. It would cost a lot less money to offer children decent schools and food and guidance than it does to imprison men. This is a luxury. It's a sick indulgence of a wealthy country. We can afford to engage in massive sadistic cruelty. But that shouldn't mean that we have to do it.

They want compliance with the recommendations found in the latest study our government produced to make itself feel better despite ignoring it. They want an end to the long-term solitary confinement that takes people's minds away. They are risking death by starvation to end death by deprivation of human contact. We could risk a lot less to do it for them.

They want adequate food provided to all prisoners and an end to the practice of depriving some and feeding others as a tool for manipulating people like wild beasts. They want basic decency, including the ability to make one phone call per week. They want standards of health and humanity that do not even begin to approach those we are required by international treaty to provide to prisoners of war. For that matter, they want to cease being treated in a manner that would get you locked up with them if you treated a dog or a cat that way.

All the prisoners are asking of us is that we spread the word. But in fact they are not asking this of us. They are offering it to us. They are leading us where we need to go, and doing it from behind bars. We would need to go to this place even if we had no prisons. We are allowing our government to destroy the physical environment. Our children will have no more reason to eat than these prisoners do, if we fail to act. We are allowing our government to murder on a massive scale through what it calls the "Defense" Department, a name as skillfully chosen as that of a "Corrections" Department. We need to do some real defending and correcting. Some of us have plans for October. The least among us are showing us how right now.
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