Fail Quotes

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May 06, 2011, 07:37:10 PM #825 Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 07:40:21 PM by Lord T Hawkeye
So if you take out a 10k loan with a credit card and not a bank like a sensible people do and think you're going to get away with paying it back at a measly 2% a month and act surprised when the fees end up adding up because you failed at basic arithmatic, this is all a sign that the BANKS are the assholes and we should be grateful that the people running the world's largest ponzi scheme are on the job to keep our finances safe?

Sure!  Makes perfect sense!
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 06, 2011, 07:37:10 PM
So if you take out a 10k loan with a credit card and not a bank like a sensible people do and think you're going to get away with paying it back at a measly 2% a month and act surprised when the fees end up adding up because you failed at basic arithmatic, this is all a sign that the BANKS are the assholes and we should be grateful that the people running the world's largest ponzi scheme are on the job to keep our finances safe?

Sure!  Makes perfect sense!

*Whips out Abacus and Papyrus paper*

*Calculates*

Nope. Can't find anything wrong with that logic there. It must be perfect, then. =P

May 06, 2011, 11:00:52 PM #827 Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 12:21:11 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on May 06, 2011, 07:37:10 PM
So if you take out a 10k loan with a credit card and not a bank like a sensible people do and think you're going to get away with paying it back at a measly 2% a month and act surprised when the fees end up adding up because you failed at basic arithmatic, this is all a sign that the BANKS are the assholes and we should be grateful that the people running the world's largest ponzi scheme are on the job to keep our finances safe?

Sure!  Makes perfect sense!

That actually wasn't the reason that bit from Cracked was a fail.
It was put there because, according to a comment Shane once made on a video, you would pay back a credit card debt in about 10-15 years when making the minimum payments.  Given that Cracked didn't provide any sources for those figures, I'm going to have to go with Shane on this one.  Occam's Razor and all that.
They blame all of this on overturning of laws regulating and/or banning that sort of thing, but again, given they didn't provide a link to the Federal Register and/or Congress to show this, I am convinced that claim is also bullshit.  So more Occam's Razor for the win.
Here's the thing though.  Even if what they said weren't nonsense, it would STILL vindicate the pro-freedom position.
Think about it.  Who runs the education system that's supposed to TEACH people about that sort of thing?  The government.
Who has been in total control of the money supply and interest rates for almost a century now?  The Government.  Or more specifically the Federal Reserve.
Who's been pumping money into the economy like mad for decades now?  The government's Federal Reserve.
Who's massive taxation and regulation drives up prices relative to disposable income and makes it so people HAVE to take out loans they wouldn't otherwise take on in a free market?  The government.
Who's propping up of fractional reserve banking amplifies inflation and makes people need to take loans more than they otherwise would need on a free market?
(not a fail quote):  [yt]V7xyfCZwKqQ[/yt]
You know this one.
And which sector is the most heavily regulated by our precious government? Yeah, the financial sector (with health care being a close second).
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

May 07, 2011, 12:24:38 AM #828 Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 12:54:57 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
I originally wasn't going to post this, but after that troll posting a variation of it on one of Shane's videos, I figure I might as well:

Quote from: some state cultist who thought he was clever, but failed miserably at it"A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE LIBERTARIAN"

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
(Source: first post in this link)

Shane does a good job refuting it, both in that forum post, and on his video's comments too.

Another fail quote would be the person trying to convince him (either in that thread or another) that government isn't force.  I've never seen that kind of nitpicking ever.
Gotta love the insanity statists will go through to justify their religion.
ALL HAIL THE CULT OF THE OMNIPOTENT STATE!!!
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

May 07, 2011, 12:54:11 AM #829 Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 01:17:54 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
For posterity, I'll also post the variation of that copypasta by the troll, simply because this is the second time I've seen it posted.  The first time being from that clownporn1 guy, IIRC:

Quote from: AmericanNohbuddy & clownporn1This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. Then, I brushed my teeth with that water, filtered to standards set by the EPA and my state.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the FED and printed by the Federal Bureau of Engraving and Printing. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

I park my car on the street, paved and maintained by the Department of Transportation, and put quarters issued by the United States Mint into the parking meter.

Then, after spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, I drive back to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and the fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
(Source)
As stated in my previous post in this thread, Shane did a pretty good job of refuting that lame copypasta.

Perhaps the biggest fail quote was when, after Shane pointed out that the above is filled with logical fallacies he says:

Quote from: AmericanNohbuddyWhat fallacy? You guys use government things every single day, then go online and complain about government.
(Source)
Shane didn't address the elephant in the room, so I will.
It seems these trolls have no humanity left in them, as they don't quite seem to grasp how despicable their argument is.
By AmericanNohbuddy's and clownporn1's logic, a slave who accepts a meal from his master is a hypocrite and wrong for opposing slavery.
Is that a hyperbole?  Not really.  He's basically saying that if you are against government breaking your leg, then if you accept the crutch, you think having your leg broken was actually moral.  There is no difference, not in kind or even degree, only in name and PR.

Or as one of the folks on the Mises Institute forum put it: So public schools, government roads, government regulations, etc etc etc are all voluntary?  Holy shit, someone better tell that to Irwin Schiff.  He's been in the slammer for like, what, 30 years now?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"War is the best incentive for the scientific and technological development. btw the era of modern computers owes much to the major advances made during the WW2 because of the war." --WarmongerWW3, on Stargazer5781's channel page
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"if everything is so bad here, why not go to live in another country?" - my own mother.

She is one of the Obama drones though so that doesn't surprise me.

Quote from: D.Turcotte on May 07, 2011, 10:52:16 AM
"if everything is so bad here, why not go to live in another country?" - my own mother.

She is one of the Obama drones though so that doesn't surprise me.

I would send her a copy of this:  http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/AmericaLoveIt.htm (not a fail quote, obviously).
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Is it just me, or is that CFLarsen dude, from the Randi forums, a giant cockbag?


Quote from: VectorM on May 07, 2011, 03:57:17 PM
Is it just me, or is that CFLarsen dude, from the Randi forums, a giant cockbag?
Yeah.  If memory serves, he was the one going through the massive evasion of government being force.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: D.Turcotte on May 07, 2011, 10:52:16 AM
"if everything is so bad here, why not go to live in another country?" - my own mother.

She is one of the Obama drones though so that doesn't surprise me.

"Yeah, sure. I'll move just like you did during Bush's presidency. I mean, you sucked it up and dealt with it, right? Oh, wait. I guess you just don't have any arguments left."

Quote from: Virgil0211 on May 07, 2011, 05:04:54 PM"Yeah, sure. I'll move just like you did during Bush's presidency. I mean, you sucked it up and dealt with it, right? Oh, wait. I guess you just don't have any arguments left."

FLAWLESS VICTORY
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"The Chicago economist then writes that the Federal Reserve is charged with limiting inflation, 'which it can do over the long run by limiting the supply of money and similar assets in the hands of the public.'" --Casey B. Mulligan

What!?  Is Mulligan on mad crack?  Does he not know what Quantitative Easing even is?  As many complaints as I have had about my own economics professor, at least he admitted that Quantitative Easing = firing up the printing press.

And people wonder why Austrian School Economists have so little (if any) respect for the Chicago School of Economics...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

It's hard to believe that Milton Friedman and Ben Bernanke are from the same school...