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General Discussion / Re: Fail Quotes
« Last post by BlameThe1st on June 23, 2017, 12:55:16 PM »
The Kids are Socialists Because Capitalism is Dickslapping the Planet


Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, for your viewing displeasure, the single worst thing I read this week. (And I've read an article about a couple who claims they can survive without food and water!)

There is so much wrong in this socialist diatribe that I'm not sure where to begin but the beginning:

Capitalism doesn’t have a plan, you know. It only goes in one direction and it doesn’t care what you want.

No. By it's very nature, capitalism needs to care about what you want because it's about exchanging goods and services. If a business doesn't give customers what they want, it goes out of business.

The most advanced capitalist states are literally at the stage of collapse and yet we deny that perhaps the problem is capitalism.

Things may be bad, but they're not that bad. The world is not falling apart. Everything from violent crime to armed conflicts to worldwide poverty has been on the rapid decline for decades.

Capitalism is a system that we can prove with any science is fucking the planet and yet the rich can convince most this is progress.

The planet may have problems, but overall, the environment have been improving.

Capitalism not only eats babies, it makes sure those babies suffer horrific and needless deaths first because suffering is less costly than care.

I'm assuming she's referring to the infant mortality rate and how America allegedly has the worst in the world. This simply isn't true. The only reason our rate is higher than other countries is because we count stillborn deaths as infant deaths. If we didn't, our rates would be comparable to other developed countries.

Capitalism wants your parents to die long, drawn-out, painful deaths from preventable diseases because managing slow, painful death is a hugely profitable enterprise employing tens of thousands of people.

Fewer people are dying from preventable diseases now more than ever. Most leading causes of death in America such as heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, and accidents have seen a major drop within the past 40+ years. If anything, Americans are living longer and healthier lives.

Capitalism is why there are six empty houses in this country for every homeless person but thousands still freeze to death.

No. That's because of the government-created housing bubble. Mises broke this down in four easy steps:

1. The Federal Reserve cut interest rates to as low as 1% so that after inflation we had negative interest rates.

2. As a result, mortgage rates fell to an all time low.

3. Low rates caused borrowing and lending to explode, particularly in real estate. For example, commercial banks more than doubled the amount of real-estate loans they made.

4. All these low interest loans had to be extended to people with worse credit ratings and this increased the demand for homes and other real-estate assets. It should not be surprising that home prices skyrocketed. Click on the link below to the Real Estate Roller Coaster:

Capitalism is why we waste 40 percent of our food while children die of starvation.

No. That's because government regulation makes it costly and cumbersome for super markets and other businesses to donate their food, and thus they throw it all away instead.

Capitalism is why 200 species went extinct today.

First, I call bullshit on that statistic because global extinction rate estimates vary so wildly. Plus if that stat were true, then the entire planet would be dead in a single year.

Just today, it was announced that the Yellowstone Grizzly Bear was removed from the endangered species list. The past decade alone has seen many animals removed from the list: humpback whales, giant pandas, manatees, and tigers, just to name a few.

Capitalism is why we’re all going to war for oil under the North Pole.

Most experts agree that both electric cars and cheap renewable energy sources will cause fossil fuel growth to halt worldwide by 2020. As solar and wind energy costs decrease, fossil fuel and coal consumption is going to decrease likewise. The free market seems to be pushing that transition just fine.

Capitalism is why your kid is going to die in a water riot.

Excuse me? Have you seen Venezuela? That socialist country is literally on the brink of collapse due to shortages of all kinds ranging from food and water to electricity.

Capitalism is the state religion of sociopaths.

No. Statism is the state religion of sociopaths.

If your kid is a Socialist, at least you raised a kid with a fucking heart. If you’re not a Socialist, I don’t even know where to start.

I'm not socialist because I know what Venezuela is. I doubt this stupid woman can find it on a map.
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General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« Last post by evensgrey on June 19, 2017, 11:25:11 AM »
As usual for Blaire, the whole video is made of win, but the bit I like best is at 4:28.


It is so nice to know I'm not the only person who thinks that.  The real question is when will it dawn on the other SJWs that he might be doing that?
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The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Last post by Ibrahim90 on June 15, 2017, 07:56:58 PM »
OK, we know that there are people in many Muslim communities who will murder people for disagreeing with them.  This includes other Muslims because they believe anyone who disagrees with them cannot actually be a Muslim.  Faced with this reality, there are going to be some Muslims who will, when asked by a random unknown person, say things that agree with the murderous people's opinions because they are scared the person asking the questions actually works for the murderous people and is looking for those who disagree with them.  In the case of countries like Saudi Arabia, this is made far worse by the fact that these people control government power.  (This can also occur in places like the UK, which has Muslim communities so insular that there are significant fractions of the population who think the UK is a Muslim-majority country where this sort of thing is entirely plausible.)

If you were stuck in Saudi Arabia, you'd probably be really careful what you said to random strangers who asked sensitive questions.  If you wrongly thought you were in a country like Saudi Arabia, you'd be similarly careful.

Oh, that?

Yeah, that's normal, unfortunately.

There was a video a while back where Bassem Yousseff brought this up--at least a partial example (EDIT: to be clear, what was going on here is that the guy he's targeting was insinuating that certain people were blasphemers):


Part of me wonders if the same isn't going on with the two-party system to a lesser extent.

EDIT: However, I'm not sure the difference is all that large though. The only place it seems to be different is the US, but there the communities are not insular, but instead form a melting-pot. Lord knows, it helped liberalize me being part of the larger community.
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The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Last post by evensgrey on June 15, 2017, 04:48:27 PM »
I couldn't make sense of the last part.

OK, we know that there are people in many Muslim communities who will murder people for disagreeing with them.  This includes other Muslims because they believe anyone who disagrees with them cannot actually be a Muslim.  Faced with this reality, there are going to be some Muslims who will, when asked by a random unknown person, say things that agree with the murderous people's opinions because they are scared the person asking the questions actually works for the murderous people and is looking for those who disagree with them.  In the case of countries like Saudi Arabia, this is made far worse by the fact that these people control government power.  (This can also occur in places like the UK, which has Muslim communities so insular that there are significant fractions of the population who think the UK is a Muslim-majority country where this sort of thing is entirely plausible.)

If you were stuck in Saudi Arabia, you'd probably be really careful what you said to random strangers who asked sensitive questions.  If you wrongly thought you were in a country like Saudi Arabia, you'd be similarly careful.
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The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Last post by Ibrahim90 on June 14, 2017, 10:00:34 PM »
Here's a vid of a young Iman in Australia who's challenging Linda Sarsour and her claims that Mohamed was various kinds of Progressive.  I've seen other vids of him challenging the loudest Muslim factions (which may or may not be the most numerous, it's hard to tell when you can't really be sure if Muslims say they support horrible things when asked by polsters because they actually do support horrible things or because they aren't really sure they are polsters and aren't actually from the monsterous side is Islam out trolling for moderates to purge).



I couldn't make sense of the last part.

He BTW is a Shi'ite. You can tell from the age he gives for the marriage mentioned (That and his comments about Bukhari). EDIT: oh, and the dress.
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Already on the list, but thanks! We'll have a lot to catch up from when I get back from vacation.
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The Podcast / Re: Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Last post by evensgrey on June 12, 2017, 01:10:53 PM »
Here's a vid of a young Iman in Australia who's challenging Linda Sarsour and her claims that Mohamed was various kinds of Progressive.  I've seen other vids of him challenging the loudest Muslim factions (which may or may not be the most numerous, it's hard to tell when you can't really be sure if Muslims say they support horrible things when asked by polsters because they actually do support horrible things or because they aren't really sure they are polsters and aren't actually from the monsterous side is Islam out trolling for moderates to purge).


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The legal circus continues.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170605/00025737514/monkey-selfie-case-gets-even-weirder-as-monkeys-next-friends-are-criminal-dispute-with-each-other.shtml

So, the guy who's camera was used to take the selfie in question has parted ways with P'E'TA Corp., and there is now a criminal case against him for trespassing on property owned by one of P'E'TA Corp.'s people.  Meanwhile, they keep trying to appeal the judge's ruling that, as a mater of law, there can be no copyright on the picture.  (Copyright law is pretty messed up in the US, and I've seen appellate courts overturn rulings based entirely on the straight law, as happened in SCO v. IBM when the non-creation of the statutorily required sales contract to transfer ownership of the UNIX sourcecode copyrights somehow didn't mean that they couldn't have transferred and a jury had to decide, which then proceeded to find as the law states that the copyrights did not transfer from Novell because the required specific transfer contract was never created, but come ON.)  This one really IS settled law:  Copyrights only exist on human-created works under the law in all relevant countries.  There was the whole business with the painting elephant to settle that one for good.
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The Podcast / Podcast for 11 June 2017
« Last post by MrBogosity on June 11, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »


Co-Host: Travis Retriever

News of the Bogus:
20:15 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Sherri Tenpenny https://skepticscollege.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/experience-with-dr-sherri-tenpenny-on-facebook/

29:08 - Idiot Extraordinaire: The EU https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170602/23100437509/copyright-law-europe-could-be-about-to-get-ridiculously-stupidly-bad-ways-that-will-undermine-internet.shtml

This Week's Quote: "The judge said he disliked to sentence the lad; it seemed the wrong thing to do; but the law left him no option. I was struck by this. The judge, then, was doing something as an official that he would not dream of doing as a man; and he could do it without any sense of responsibility, or discomfort, simply because he was acting as an official and not as a man. On this principle of action, it seemed to me that one could commit almost any kind of crime without getting into trouble with one's conscience. Clearly, a great crime had been committed against this boy; yet nobody who had had a hand in it—the judge, the jury, the prosecutor, the complaining witness, the policemen and jailers—felt any responsibility about it, because they were not acting as men, but as officials." —Albert Jay Nock

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General Discussion / Re: Fav quotes
« Last post by Altimadark on June 08, 2017, 01:29:28 AM »
Had this one in my Twitter feed recently enough:

"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics." -- Thomas Sowell

This is the sort of thing which cannot be taught enough times. Opportunity cost and whatnot.
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