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Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:25.08,0:00:29.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Bogosity.TV presents
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:29.59,0:00:33.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Expelled: Correcting the Misinformation
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:33.67,0:00:38.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is a special subtitle track.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:38.37,0:00:47.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The movie you are watching contains numerous factual\Nerrors and is filled with misleading information.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:47.90,0:00:55.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The purpose of this subtitle file is to\Ncorrect the errors and set the record straight.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:55.16,0:01:00.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was created by Shane D. Killian and\Nis copyright 2008-2010, some rights reserved.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:00.73,0:01:06.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It is released under a Creative Commons\NAttribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:06.30,0:01:11.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,You may--and are encouraged\Nto--distribute this file far and wide.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:11.49,0:01:16.49,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The main source for the information\Nin this file is ExpelledExposed.com
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:16.52,0:01:21.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Other sources include interviews and\Npodcasts with the featured scientists
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:21.73,0:01:30.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including Michael Shermer, Richard\NDawkins, PZ Myers, and Eugenie Scott
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:30.46,0:01:36.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and various scientific references.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:36.30,0:02:16.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Visit www.Bogosity.TV
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:16.62,0:02:22.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,(subtitle version 1.3)
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:54.34,0:04:01.71,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's Benny!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:07.62,0:04:09.50,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Gangstas"?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:09.53,0:04:13.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This was recorded at Pepperdine University,\Nbut it's not a university audience.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:13.46,0:04:17.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,According to Lee Kats, natural\Nscience chair at the university:
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:17.65,0:04:21.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"The production company paid\Nfor the use of the facility
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:21.41,0:04:25.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"just as all other companies\Ndo that film on our campus...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:25.40,0:04:29.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"The company was nervous that they would\Nnot have enough people in the audience
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:29.37,0:04:32.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"so they brought in extras.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:32.69,0:04:36.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Members of the audience had to sign in
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:36.65,0:04:40.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and a staff member reports that no more than two\Nto three Pepperdine students were in attendance.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:40.63,0:04:45.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Mr. Stein's lecture on that topic was\Nnot an event sponsored by the university."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:45.08,0:04:48.50,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He also said that the Christian students\Nat the university accept evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:54.33,0:05:00.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Science helped a bit, too, you know.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:00.78,0:05:06.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, can you truly have science\Nwithout freedom, and vice-versa?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:12.48,0:05:14.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is untrue.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:15.01,0:05:19.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As these subtitles will\Nshow, it's just an excuse
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:19.77,0:05:25.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,to explain why his side hasn't\Ndone any actual science at all.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:25.27,0:05:31.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,These subtitles will also show that his conclusion\Nis based on false and misleading information.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:36.77,0:05:40.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Note the weasel words, "party line."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:40.64,0:05:44.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Many others show up throughout\Nthe film. Watch out for them.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:43.47,0:05:47.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Sternberg was never an employee\Nof the Smithsonian Institution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:47.09,0:05:55.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He was employed by the\NNational Institutes of Health.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:01.71,0:06:04.76,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Did you catch that? More weasel words.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:12.54,0:06:17.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He published this article without\Ngoing through the proper review process.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:17.41,0:06:21.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The "firestorm" occurred because\Nthe paper was shoddy science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:21.61,0:06:24.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It had previously been reviewed and rejected.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:24.82,0:06:28.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The paper had nothing to do with how life began.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:28.33,0:06:31.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was on the Cambrian Explosion.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:31.71,0:06:34.76,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There was no such investigation.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:34.79,0:06:40.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He had already turned in his resignation\Nsix months before publishing the paper.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:40.72,0:06:45.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The issue in question was to be his\Nsecond-to-last as voluntary editor.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:45.78,0:06:53.15,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The Smithsonian extended his unpaid\Nposition in 2006, but he has never shown up.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:05.66,0:07:08.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Clips like this are what Richard Dawkins\Nreferred to as "Lord Privy Seals" (quoted later).
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:08.81,0:07:12.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The term comes from a 1960s British comedy\Nlampooning this shoddy method of filmmaking.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:12.53,0:07:16.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Stephen Meyer is an officer of the Discovery\NInstitute, an Intelligent Design think-tank.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:16.81,0:07:25.26,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He declined to take the stand in defense of Intelligent\NDesign at the 2005 Kitzmiller v. Dover School Board trial.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:25.29,0:07:32.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The rejection of this paper had nothing to do with\Nreligion and everything to do with being bad science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:32.56,0:07:41.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There is not a single piece of evidence\Nto show that he was called a "terrorist."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:55.03,0:08:07.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Michael Shermer is the editor of Skeptic Magazine.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:07.03,0:08:17.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,www.skeptic.com
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:26.83,0:08:31.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In order to be taken seriously, Intelligent Design\Nor any new idea must conform to scientific principles.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:31.85,0:08:35.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This includes, but is not limited to:
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:35.15,0:08:39.60,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Making testable predictions
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:39.63,0:08:44.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Having a way of being theoretically falsified
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:44.65,0:08:49.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Conforming to the Correspondence\NPrinciple (explained later)
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:49.65,0:08:54.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So far, no Intelligent Design\Nadvocate has done any of these.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:09.72,0:09:15.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Indeed, Shermer is right,\Nas was just explained.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:39.00,0:09:49.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,George Mason University is lauded by\Nlibertarians for its commitment to freedom.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:56.73,0:10:00.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Crocker did much more than simply\N"mention" Intelligent Design.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:00.09,0:10:04.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,She took up valuable class time teaching\Ncreationist material that had been shown to be false.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:04.64,0:10:08.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Her career in no way came to an end.\NShe continued teaching at GMU and NVCC...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:08.51,0:10:15.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and then took a postdoctoral position at Uniformed\NServices University studying T-cell signal interaction.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:15.26,0:10:19.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Despite numerous student complaints,\Nshe finished out her contract.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:19.90,0:10:23.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Her contract was for a non-tenure track position.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:23.57,0:10:29.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Such professors may not be called back\Nthe next semester for a number of reasons,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:29.30,0:10:34.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including available faculty, enrollment, and\Npopularity of the class or whether it is even offered.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:51.98,0:11:03.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, she has held several scientific investigative\Nand teaching positions since this incident.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:24.60,0:11:36.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This was an essay on an Intelligent Design blog.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:39.38,0:11:42.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That's the blogsphere for\Nyou. It ain't just you, pal.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:42.93,0:11:49.76,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, the creationists and ID proponents\Nhave a reputation for being far nastier.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:49.79,0:11:59.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Numerous creationists have done just that to the\NUniversity of Minnesota about PZ Myers, who appears later.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:59.38,0:12:04.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,PZ has even received death threats.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:04.43,0:12:10.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Um, "expelled" from where? They\Nnever even claim he lost his job.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:21.16,0:12:25.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yes, Ben, he was. He remains Professor of\NElectrical and Computer Engineering at Baylor...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:25.30,0:12:30.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and his work conditions\Nhave not changed in any way.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:30.04,0:12:34.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The web site in question was an ID web site and\Nhad nothing to do with his university research.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:34.94,0:12:41.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was not shut down, but moved off the University\Nservers to a third-party hosting provider.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:42.00,0:12:48.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He dishonestly called it a "laboratory"\Nwhen it was nothing of the kind.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:48.96,0:12:56.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He also implied a connection between the\Nsubject and Baylor which did not exist.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:56.98,0:13:06.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, the web site was never shut down.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:19.97,0:13:25.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Marks, like Egnor, was not\N"expelled" from anywhere.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:47.76,0:13:51.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This "stellar research record" only\Noccurred at the start of his career at ISU.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:51.26,0:13:55.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He is not credited with the\Ndiscovery of any extra-solar planets.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:55.78,0:14:01.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Denial of tenure happens all the time,\Nand seldom puts careers "in jeopardy."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:01.78,0:14:05.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,ISU based his tenure on:
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:05.14,0:14:09.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"refereed publications, his level of success\Nin attracting research funding and grants,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:09.21,0:14:11.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"the amount of telescope\Nobserving time he had been granted,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:11.66,0:14:14.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"the number of graduate students he had supervised,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:14.53,0:14:19.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and most importantly, the overall evidence of\Nfuture career promise in the field of astronomy."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:19.17,0:14:25.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,During his time at ISU, he gained no major\Ngrants and published no significant research.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:25.15,0:14:30.34,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He only had one graduate\Nstudent finish a dissertation.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:30.37,0:14:37.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Gonzalez's peers had obtained 50 times the grant\Nmoney he did by the time they were granted tenure.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:43.97,0:14:49.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,We mentioned the\NCorrespondence Principle earlier.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:49.01,0:14:52.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The Correspondence Principle\Nis very important in science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:52.73,0:14:59.76,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It says, to put it simply, a new theory\Nmust correspond to the current knowledge.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:59.79,0:15:06.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So, for example, when Einstein posited Special\NRelativity to replace Newtonian physics,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:06.06,0:15:12.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,he had to explain why Newton had\Nworked so well up to that point.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:12.57,0:15:17.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,His equations reduce to the equivalent of Newton's
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:17.95,0:15:22.67,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,for velocities that are infinitesimal\Ncompared to the speed of light.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:22.71,0:15:28.60,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Every new theory must conform to this principle.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:28.64,0:15:36.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So creationism or ID must have some way of explaining\Nwhy evolution has worked so well as far as it has.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:36.28,0:15:42.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They haven't done that yet.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:51.17,0:15:55.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The evolutionary scientists interviewed\Nfor this movie were misled as to its topic.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:55.92,0:16:03.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They were told the movie was "Crossroads:\NThe Intersection of Science and Religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:03.73,0:16:09.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As a result, these interviews are\Nshown completely out of context.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:09.61,0:16:16.99,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,When confronted with this, the producers\Nclaimed that "Crossroads" was a working title...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:17.02,0:16:22.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and that the title changed when they\Nchanged what the movie was about.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:22.65,0:16:28.15,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The problem is, according to the\NNetwork Solutions WHOIS database...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:28.18,0:16:34.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,they had registered the movie's domain name,\NExpelledTheMovie.com, on 1 March 2007...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:34.43,0:16:38.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,months in advance of the interviews.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:38.44,0:16:44.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, PZ Myers posted the letter\Nhe received from producer Mark Mathis,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:44.21,0:16:50.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,stating that the film was "Crossroads:\NThe Intersection of Science and Religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:50.51,0:17:00.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was dated April 2007, one month\Nafter the domain name was registered.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:00.08,0:17:02.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,PZ: "Why were they\Nso dishonest about it?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:02.13,0:17:07.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"If Mathis had said outright that he wants to interview\Nan atheist and outspoken critic of Intelligent Design...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:07.80,0:17:13.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"for a film he was making about how ID is unfairly\Nexcluded from academe, I would have said, 'bring it on!'
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:13.42,0:17:20.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"We would have had a good, pugnacious argument on\Ntape that directly addresses the claims of his movie,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:20.55,0:17:25.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and it would have been a better--at least,\Nmore honest and more relevant--sequence."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:25.91,0:17:31.59,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"I mean, seriously, not telling one of the sides\Nin a debate about what the subject might be...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:31.62,0:17:35.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and then leading him around\Nrandomly to various topics,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:35.29,0:17:41.31,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"with the intent of later editing it down to\Nthe parts that just make the points you want,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:41.34,0:17:49.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"is the video version of quote-mining and is fundamentally\Ndishonest." --PZ Myers, Pharyngula blog, 21 March 2008
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:49.82,0:17:54.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All of the evolutionary scientists\Ninterviewed are atheists.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:54.39,0:18:00.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Clearly, the implication is that all\Nevolutionary scientists are atheists.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:00.32,0:18:03.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That is far from true.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:03.31,0:18:08.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, Kenneth Miller is a\Nprominent evolutionary scientist
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:08.17,0:18:13.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,who has written school textbooks and was the star\Nwitness for the prosecution in the Dover trial.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:13.15,0:18:16.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He's a devout, practicing Christian
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:16.65,0:18:22.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as are others, including Francis Collins\Nof the NiH, paleontologist Robert T. Bakker,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:22.27,0:18:26.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and Francisco Alaya of the\NNational Academy of Sciences.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:26.52,0:18:30.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,When Mark Mathis was asked by Scientific American editors\Nwhy none of the Christian evolutionists were included,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:30.84,0:18:35.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Mathis replied that it "would have\Nconfused the film unnecessarily."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:48.11,0:18:54.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Apparently, Ben Stein doesn't\Nknow how to use Google Maps.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:06.45,0:19:10.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It seems that Stein is trying to\Nportray the Discovery Institute
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:10.06,0:19:14.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as being this small,\Nhumble organization.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:14.16,0:19:20.44,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In reality, their offices are much bigger than\Nthose of the National Center for Science Education.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:26.88,0:19:31.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Bruce Chapman is the founder\Nof the Discovery Institute.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:31.93,0:19:36.94,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Like Kenneth Miller,\Nhe's a Roman Catholic.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:06.09,0:20:10.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They keep claiming that ID\Nhas no connection to religion.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:10.77,0:20:14.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yet, the ID textbook, Of Pandas and People,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:14.20,0:20:17.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,was originally a creationist text.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:17.80,0:20:24.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In one draft, someone went through and replaced all\Nreferences to "creation" with "Intelligent Design,"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:24.46,0:20:27.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"creator" with "designer,"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:27.90,0:20:32.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and "creationist" with "design proponent."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:32.44,0:20:42.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One of the edits was very sloppy and the\Nresult read, "cdesign proponentsists."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:42.95,0:20:49.96,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This was used in the Dover trial as evidence\Nthat ID is just creationism made over.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:53.99,0:20:58.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That's because the debate\Nhas, indeed, been settled.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:58.84,0:21:04.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Every piece of scientific evidence\Nconfirms evolution, while none support ID.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:04.74,0:21:08.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As discussed before, ID\Nisn't even a proper theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:08.43,0:21:13.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This was admitted by ID proponents\Nunder cross in the Dover trial.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:19.47,0:21:24.94,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Why is Jesus never portrayed\Nas someone from the Middle East?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:33.35,0:21:37.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,ID proponents claim that we consider\Nsomething designed if it's complex.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:37.66,0:21:41.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But complexity has nothing to do with it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:41.38,0:21:48.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,We consider something to be designed if we\Nknow how and why humans would design something,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:48.23,0:21:53.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and if we know of no natural explanation for it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:53.93,0:21:59.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The complexity argument is a red herring.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:59.04,0:22:03.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, the Argument from\NDesign was refuted by David Hume
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:04.01,0:22:09.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,decades before Darwin published his theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:19.75,0:22:23.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But questions that are\Nproperly answered tend to stay
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:23.94,0:22:29.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,when people have a religious or\Npolitical reason for clinging to it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:35.16,0:22:38.31,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All theories have problems.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:38.34,0:22:43.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The theory of gravity has much more\Nserious problems than evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:43.77,0:22:49.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If no theory had problems, that\Nwould mean that we knew everything.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:58.67,0:23:11.09,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The scientific definition of evolution is the change in\Ngenetic characteristics of a population over generations.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:13.66,0:23:17.59,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yes, they have questions about it,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:17.62,0:23:30.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but that doesn't mean they\Nbelieve it didn't happen.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:36.76,0:23:41.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Their quintessential example is what\Nthey call "irreducible complexity."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:41.27,0:23:47.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Basically, if a system performs a function\Nthat it couldn't with at least one part missing,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:47.60,0:23:53.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,then that system is irreducibly complex,\Nand therefore intelligently designed.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:53.03,0:23:59.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The problem is, we see such "irreducibly\Ncomplex" systems form all the time.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:59.77,0:24:05.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All that evolution requires is that\Neach stage be useful for something,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:05.59,0:24:10.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,even if that doesn't end up\Nbeing the use we see for it today.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:11.10,0:24:18.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Evolution is just a theory" is a common\Nmantra of the creationist/ID movement.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:18.15,0:24:23.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All they're really saying is that they\Ndon't know what the word "theory" means.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:23.87,0:24:27.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Gravity is "just a theory."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:27.46,0:24:32.67,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Someone takes antibiotics\Nbecause of "germ theory."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:32.68,0:24:36.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Theories aren't guesses\Nthat later turn into facts;
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:36.71,0:24:43.94,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,theories explain facts and provide a useful\Nmodel for understanding the phenomenon.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:59.08,0:25:02.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That isn't how it happens.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:02.82,0:25:07.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Science only accepts an idea and\Napplies it if it's been shown to work.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:07.07,0:25:09.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,ID proponents want to bypass that process.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:12.61,0:25:17.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, Einstein embodied Newton's\Ntheories into his relativity theories.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:17.39,0:25:21.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Their theory must do the same with Darwin.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:21.27,0:25:28.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, the theory of evolution has changed\Nquite significantly since Darwin's day.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:28.24,0:25:37.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Mutations, genetics, endosymbiotics,\Nepigenetics, punctuated equilibrium, and evo-devo
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:37.83,0:25:46.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,are all examples of concepts which have added\Nto or changed the theory since Darwin's day.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:53.77,0:25:55.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Huh?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:16.98,0:26:21.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again with the "little guy" stuff.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:21.83,0:26:27.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Like they're David to science's Goliath or something.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:33.89,0:26:38.71,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Scientists are supposed to propose testable ideas.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:45.15,0:26:51.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That doesn't mean that the\Nother argument isn't wrong.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:57.63,0:27:01.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,No one denies that there\Nare counter-arguments,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:01.33,0:27:05.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but these arguments have\Nbeen falsified scientifically.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:05.92,0:27:11.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,For example, one such counter-argument is\Nthat new information cannot enter a genome.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:11.81,0:27:18.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But the development of nylon-eating\Nbacteria in the natural world falsifies this,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:18.05,0:27:24.26,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as does the lab experiment which\Nresulted in citrate-eating E. coli.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:26.29,0:27:36.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Jonathan Wells not only denies evolution,\Nbut also denies that HIV causes AIDS.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:44.77,0:27:48.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Oh, the irony...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:01.53,0:28:08.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Can anyone say, "projection"?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:12.92,0:28:18.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One of Berlinski's many false claims is that\Nmathematician Jon von Neumann disputed Darwinism.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:18.72,0:28:23.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is patently false.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:23.49,0:28:28.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Von Neumann was absolutely pro-evolution,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:28.11,0:28:33.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,especially with regards to\Nmutation and natural selection.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:33.71,0:28:39.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He used Darwin as an inspiration for\Nhis theory of self-replicating automata.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:39.23,0:28:46.44,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Berlinski has also made misleading\Narguments about whale evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:46.47,0:28:53.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He claims to have made a\Nquantitative argument debunking it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:53.44,0:29:03.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,By his own admission, it isn't based on any evidence,\Nwhether fossil or genetic, about how whales evolved.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:03.48,0:29:13.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He claims that 50,000 separate morphological changes\Nare needed to turn land vertebrates into whales.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:13.84,0:29:20.67,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But since whales evolved over\Na period of 40 million years,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:20.70,0:29:25.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,that would only require\None change every 800 years.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:25.85,0:29:29.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,No problem for evolution!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:29.52,0:29:33.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Besides, whales don't even have 50,000 genes!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:46.39,0:29:54.59,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Being "a mess" doesn't make it wrong.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:57.83,0:30:00.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Many sciences have no such "rigor,"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:01.00,0:30:07.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including meteorology, climatology,\Nphysiology, psychology, and economics.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:07.35,0:30:13.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Mathematics works with absolute\Nproof of clearly defined constructs.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:13.58,0:30:17.94,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,No physical science works this way.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:20.48,0:30:27.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He also said, "Everything should be made\Nas simple as possible, but no simpler."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:27.38,0:30:33.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Apparently, Berlinski would\Nignore those last three words.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:50.04,0:30:53.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Notice that Dawkins bases his\Ndisbelief in God on a lack of evidence,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:53.40,0:31:03.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,not a belief in evolution as Stein claims.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:16.08,0:31:23.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Very few if any of these have had any\Nsignificant publications in the field.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:39.71,0:31:44.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Speciation has been observed\Nnumerous times in the wild,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:44.48,0:31:48.72,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and replicated in the laboratory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:48.75,0:31:56.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In order to deny this, creationists and ID proponents need\Na mechanism preventing small changes from accumulating.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:56.65,0:32:00.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They don't have one.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:00.10,0:32:03.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The origin of life is abiogenesis, not evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:03.91,0:32:07.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Evolution deals with biology, whereas\Nabiogenesis deals with chemistry.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:08.01,0:32:13.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,A lot of progress has been made\Nin the field of abiogenesis.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:13.41,0:32:16.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,See the work of Dr. Jack Szostak.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:16.23,0:32:25.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He has a comprehensive theory going from basic organic\Nchemicals to self-replicating and evolving proto-cells.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:25.96,0:32:31.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He has also confirmed this in his laboratory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:31.10,0:32:36.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Now, this doesn't mean that it happened\Nthis way, just that it could have...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:36.91,0:32:44.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but that is all that is needed to falsify\Nthe claims of creationists and ID proponents.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:53.64,0:32:58.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Those are four of the five most\Ncommon elements in the universe.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:58.56,0:33:04.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The fifth is helium, which is completely\Ninert and therefore cannot make molecules.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:04.51,0:33:10.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Recent findings indicate that the energy may have come from\Nthe lightning that naturally occurs around volcanic vents.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:10.26,0:33:14.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This would have created the organic\Nmolecules necessary for making life.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:14.55,0:33:21.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,These molecules are found in many\Nplaces, including on comets and asteroids.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:24.14,0:33:27.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is a misrepresentation\Nof the primordial soup theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:27.11,0:33:31.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The soup refers simply to the availability of\Nthe chemical ingredients, unlike what is pictured.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:31.35,0:33:37.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In reality, it would have been tiny organic molecules\Nfloating around in the oceans' convection currents...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:37.26,0:33:40.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,which occur near hydrothermal vents.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:40.02,0:33:42.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The Miller-Urey experiments had\Nnothing to do with creating life,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:42.87,0:33:47.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,only creating organic\Nmolecules such as amino acids.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:47.04,0:33:50.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Their initial experiments found\Nfive essential amino acids.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:50.84,0:33:56.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Modern examination of the stored\Nresidues from the experiments...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:56.28,0:34:00.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,found that there were actually\Ntwenty-two amino acids created.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:00.23,0:34:04.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Far from abandoning the\NMiller-Urey results as Stein claims,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:04.40,0:34:09.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,scientists think it may be a very accurate\Ndescription of what occurred on the early Earth
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:09.90,0:34:15.96,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,near the many volcanic vents and\Ngeysers that existed at the time.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:15.99,0:34:22.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dr. Szostak's work, mentioned\Nearlier, makes no use of crystals.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:22.06,0:34:29.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Clay-crystal theory is just one of many\Noptions for how abiogenesis could have happened.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:32.51,0:34:36.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Demanding to know the point\Nwhere non-life becomes life...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:36.20,0:34:43.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,is a bit like demanding to know the\Npoint where an infant becomes an old man.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:45.20,0:34:49.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It wasn't "mud," Ben. The\Ncomponents were very different.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:54.02,0:34:58.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The biggest problem with Intelligent Design is...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:58.38,0:35:02.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,that it tries to solve the problem\Nof the complexity of life...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:02.69,0:35:06.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,by postulating its creation\Nby a complex living thing.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:06.38,0:35:11.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But where did that complex living thing come from?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:11.49,0:35:18.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All they've done is just\Npush the problem back a step.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:25.95,0:35:30.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That would only be the case if amino\Nacids and proteins were arranged randomly.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:30.86,0:35:35.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But the laws of chemistry are not random.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:00.51,0:36:05.10,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This probability argument has been around\Na long time, and it's complete nonsense.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:05.13,0:36:12.09,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The probability of being dealt any\Nparticular poker hand is 1 in 2.6 million...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:12.12,0:36:16.26,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but the more you're allowed to\Ndiscard and draw more cards...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:16.29,0:36:19.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,the closer you can get to that winning hand.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:19.79,0:36:25.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So this entire argument is an Appeal to Ignorance
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:25.43,0:36:31.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,(not to mention Appeal to Ridicule,\Nlike so much of this movie).
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:34.01,0:36:39.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Apparently, this is what Ben\NStein considers a winning argument.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:45.42,0:36:48.67,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Could you please show your work?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:51.60,0:36:55.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There are an estimated 70 sextillion stars.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:55.95,0:37:00.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If there's an average of just\None planet around each of them,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:00.41,0:37:05.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and life is a\None-in-a-trillion probability,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:05.79,0:37:09.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,then that means that life\Nexists on 70 billion planets!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:09.81,0:37:12.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That's not zero!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:13.01,0:37:18.44,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,And that's assuming that each\Nplanet gets one and only one try...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:18.47,0:37:23.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as opposed to chemical reactions happening\Ncontinuously over billions of years.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:24.06,0:37:27.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Panspermia does not require aliens.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:27.26,0:37:30.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,We know meteorites have come to Earth from Mars.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:30.60,0:37:35.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If Mars had ancient life, then that means that\Nlife on Earth could have originated on Mars.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:35.84,0:37:39.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Scientists don't accept this theory,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:39.05,0:37:43.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but it has a big advantage\Nover Intelligent Design...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:43.49,0:37:48.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,in that it doesn't require the\Npostulation of anything that's unproven.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:48.40,0:37:52.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Of course, for all we know,\Nit could have been aliens...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:52.85,0:37:59.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but like Intelligent Design, that\Nwould only push the problem back a step.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:59.44,0:38:05.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Actually, there are some ID proponents\Nwho postulate an alien as the designer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:05.69,0:38:11.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One of these is William Dembski, whom Stein\Ninterviewed earlier, and appears again later on.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:11.71,0:38:16.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yet, Stein ridicules the scientists\Nfor this idea and not him.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:19.76,0:38:22.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,No, Ben, Darwin didn't think\Nof them as much of anything,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:22.25,0:38:25.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,because no one knew much\Nabout them at the time.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:25.38,0:38:28.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Cell division wasn't even known prior to 1855.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:32.87,0:38:37.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The original proto-cells and the\Ncells that evolved from them...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:37.38,0:38:44.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,would not have been anything like modern cells\Nthat have evolved for over three billion years.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:44.40,0:38:49.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Modern cells work too well.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:49.88,0:38:55.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The original cells would have been much simpler.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:55.26,0:39:03.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They would have been fragile and\Nnot very good at what they did.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:03.35,0:39:09.72,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But over the eons, competition with each\Nother would have made the survivors...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:09.75,0:39:14.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,progressively better and\Nbetter at their functions.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:14.64,0:39:20.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dr. Szostak's theory even has the proto-cells\Nconsuming each other in direct competition.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:20.15,0:39:24.22,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,These early cells would have not used DNA.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:24.25,0:39:29.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It wouldn't even have been its\Nsingle-stranded counterpart, RNA.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:29.08,0:39:33.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There are much more basic\Nversions of the molecule...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:33.98,0:39:39.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,which, over time, would have been\Nselected for the ones that work best.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:39.68,0:39:45.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's very easy to go from\Nthis to RNA and then to DNA...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:45.41,0:39:51.22,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as long as you have enough time\Nfor these changes to accumulate.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:54.06,0:39:59.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is a huge misunderstanding\Nof multi-dimensional mathematics.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:03.11,0:40:05.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All of this is beautiful and wonderful,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:05.48,0:40:11.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but not at all indicative of what\Nearly life would have been like.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:15.15,0:40:17.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Incidentally, see that figure in the center?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:17.30,0:40:20.60,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It looks like it's walking a tight-rope.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:20.64,0:40:24.10,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That's one of many problems with this animation.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:24.13,0:40:27.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That was a kinesin molecule.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:27.67,0:40:31.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It doesn't really make this\Ndeliberate-looking movement.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:31.23,0:40:36.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's actually a very spastic\Nand chaotic jittering motion.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:36.56,0:40:40.51,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It ends up going in one direction,\Nbut it's not very efficient.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:40.55,0:40:44.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Likewise, all of the shots of different\Nmolecules coming together smoothly...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:45.00,0:40:48.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,just isn't how it works in an actual cell.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:48.73,0:40:52.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's more like a cloud of\Nrandomly bouncing monomers...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:52.83,0:40:58.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,which only lock in when they happen\Nto hit the polymer the right way.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:58.29,0:41:04.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,A real cell is much more random and\Nchaotic than what is depicted here.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:04.21,0:41:12.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,And remember, all of this is the product\Nof over three billion years of evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:19.20,0:41:22.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,These quality-control mechanisms are\Nthemselves a product of evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:22.61,0:41:25.44,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They would not have been\Npresent in the first cells.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:25.45,0:41:29.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In the beginning, cells had no limitation\Non the number of mutations they experienced,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:29.76,0:41:35.96,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but a cell that had slightly more control over its\Nreproductive changes would have had an advantage.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:35.99,0:41:39.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If a cell mutates too rapidly, it\Nhas trouble making viable offspring...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:39.67,0:41:43.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and can be out-competed by\Ncells that don't change as much.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:43.78,0:41:47.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,On the other hand, if a cell does too\Ngood a job of preventing changes...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:47.88,0:41:52.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,it cannot adapt to changing\Nenvironmental conditions...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:52.04,0:41:56.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,or to other cells that evolve\Nnew ways of competing with them.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:56.48,0:42:00.42,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Evolution zeroes these proofreading\Nmechanisms on the happy medium.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:00.46,0:42:06.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Not too many mutations, and not too few, either.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:07.58,0:42:11.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As mentioned earlier, increases\Nin information have been observed.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:11.33,0:42:17.31,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In the case of nylon-eating bacteria, the\Nfirst step was an accidental duplication
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:17.31,0:42:22.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,of the gene that allows it to\Ndigest food from its environment.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:22.08,0:42:27.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,With two copies of the gene, one could\Nmutate without harming the organism.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:27.23,0:42:33.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Later on, a frame shift changed the\Nstructure of the resulting protein...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:33.56,0:42:39.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and allowed the bacteria to digest nylon\Nbyproducts never before seen on Earth.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:39.66,0:42:46.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The result was a new gene with\Ninformation that had not existed before...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:46.57,0:42:55.26,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,allowing the bacteria to digest a\Nsubstance that had not existed before.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:55.26,0:43:00.31,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There are many other such examples of new\Ninformation and new genes being created,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:00.34,0:43:05.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including hundreds in the human body.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:14.46,0:43:16.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Right, because those aren't testable.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:16.78,0:43:21.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 1966, Lynn Margulis published a paper\Nsuggesting that the mitochondria in human cells...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:21.86,0:43:25.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,were originally bacterial invaders.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:25.09,0:43:29.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was rejected for publication numerous times\Nand her idea dismissed by mainstream biologists.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:29.94,0:43:34.71,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But she came up with a genuine\Ntheory and ways to test it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:34.74,0:43:39.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 1970, she published a book,\N"Origin of Eukaryotic Cells."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:39.66,0:43:45.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,She kept doing the experiments, and\Nother scientists began verifying them.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:45.89,0:43:50.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,She began receiving accolades in\Nthe scientific world in the 1980s...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:50.88,0:43:55.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and in the 1990s her theory was accepted.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:55.50,0:44:03.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 1995, Richard Dawkins praised her for her tenacity\Nturning an unorthodox idea into an orthodox one.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:03.98,0:44:10.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Now, her theory is taught in school textbooks.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:10.03,0:44:15.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That is the process for getting attention for\Nan unorthodox idea, and getting it accepted.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:15.46,0:44:21.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,ID proponents try to bypass this process\Nand get it directly in the textbooks.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:21.60,0:44:30.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It took Lynn Margulis over 30 years and lots of\Nhard work and testing in order to get to that point.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:30.40,0:44:35.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,ID proponents haven't even provided\Na valid theory that can be tested.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:42.31,0:44:45.42,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This claim is ridiculous.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:45.45,0:44:52.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Go to any scientific conference and\Nyou see dissent all over the place.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:52.09,0:44:57.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dissent is welcome as long as the\Ndissent is based on a testable theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:12.41,0:45:17.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In truth, a good way to get grant money and\Nscientific respect is to question a paradigm.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:17.96,0:45:22.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If you have a viable theory, that is.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:32.11,0:45:36.26,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They aren't "afraid of free speech," Ben.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:36.29,0:45:43.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They don't like science being misrepresented.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:43.59,0:45:48.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Close scrutiny of theories is\Nthe modus operandi of science,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:48.42,0:45:53.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but ID proponents would like you to\Nbelieve that it's never allowed...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:53.56,0:45:59.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,so that they can give their\Nclaims an air of legitimacy.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:59.27,0:46:06.49,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Otherwise, it would be completely obvious to\Neverybody that they have absolutely nothing to offer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:06.49,0:46:14.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, it's the "close scrutiny" of the ideas of\NID that led do it being rejected as valid science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:14.58,0:46:19.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The discussion they say they want has\Nalready happened and was over, long ago.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:28.58,0:46:32.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Note that Stein keeps using\Nthe weael-word "gospel"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:32.47,0:46:38.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,to dishonestly imply that\NEvolution is a religious belief.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:45.03,0:46:59.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,NCSE's web site: www.ncse.com
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:25.85,0:47:32.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yes, she is, Ben. She has\Nthe data to back it up.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:32.05,0:47:38.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Whereas ol' Benny hasn't presented\Nany data at all to back up his claims.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:38.48,0:47:42.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Are you beginning to see why\Nthe producers of this movie...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:42.90,0:47:48.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,thought it would be "confusing" to\Ninterview a Christian evolutionist?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:55.35,0:47:59.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Remember that Dawkins's remarks\Nare entirely out-of-context.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:59.35,0:48:04.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He thought the movie was about "the\Nintersection of science and religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:09.70,0:48:14.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yes, Ben, because as mentioned\Nbefore many scientists do it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:14.81,0:48:18.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Evolution does not preclude a creator.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:18.07,0:48:22.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Nothing in science precludes a creator.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:22.87,0:48:26.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But nothing in science\Npoints to a creator, either.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:26.91,0:48:34.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So the default position of science is that a\Ncreator is like every other unsubstantiated idea...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:34.49,0:48:41.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including fairies, mermaids,\Nand the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:41.58,0:48:47.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As Dr. Shermer pointed out earlier, it's in a different\Nclass to things that have been outright falsified.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:47.06,0:48:54.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Creationists and ID proponents take the\Nfalsification science has done of their ideas...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:54.49,0:49:00.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and make it look like a falsification\Nof God when it really isn't,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:00.94,0:49:10.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Professor Dawkins's\Nopinion notwithstanding.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:26.33,0:49:30.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Because it isn't in\Nany way an even debate.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:30.68,0:49:38.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Come up with a coherent theory that is testable,\Nfalsifiable, and conforms to the Correspondence Principle...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:38.70,0:49:42.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and do the work to develop\Nit like Dr. Margulis did...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:42.51,0:49:50.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and then it'll be an even debate.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:05.88,0:50:11.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Maybe because that's what you guys\Nhave been saying for ten years?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:11.11,0:50:18.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This argument has been made by Michael Behe and\Nothers in the case of irreducible complexity,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:18.20,0:50:23.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and by Dembski and others in\Nthe case of specified complexity.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:27.78,0:50:33.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Sure, if you call journalistic\Nintegrity "pressure."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:37.22,0:50:43.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Winnick has been using ID talking points in her\Narticles for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette since 2000.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:43.41,0:50:50.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 2001, she interviewed Michael Behe and was\Npanned because she only used softball questions.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:50.33,0:50:56.99,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,When she reviewed PBS's Evolution series, she said that\NID "began about a decade ago when serious scientists--
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:56.99,0:51:03.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"many with doctorates from prestigious universities--\Nbegan to tackle evolution on scientific grounds."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:03.71,0:51:08.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,How this is not taking sides is a mystery\Nonly resolved in Stein's imagination.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:08.83,0:51:12.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Even so, she was not in any\Nway "finished as a journalist."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:12.82,0:51:16.50,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, she still writes\Narticles for the Post-Gazette...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:16.53,0:51:21.09,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,including a blatantly anti-evolution\Npiece published in 2005.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:21.12,0:51:28.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,She has also written articles for the\NWeekly Standard and the Wall Street Journal.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:28.60,0:51:32.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Funny sort of blacklist, this.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:32.88,0:51:40.42,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,She also published a book in 2005 entitled, "A\NJealous God: Science's Crusade Against Religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:40.45,0:51:47.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The accusation that she was "finished\Nas a journalist" is ridiculous,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:47.11,0:51:52.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and the assertion that she\Nwas unbiased is laughable.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:52.57,0:51:58.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The court cases, of course, have nothing to do\Nwith the ordinary controversies of science...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:58.42,0:52:06.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,only the fact that creationists and ID proponents\Nhave tried to bypass the scientific method...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:06.71,0:52:15.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,by getting their ideas straight into\Nthe classroom without scientific review.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:15.21,0:52:20.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The judge in the Dover trial was John Jones.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:20.31,0:52:26.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Jones is a conservative\Njudge and a Bush appointee.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:26.44,0:52:33.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Before the trial, the Discovery Institute lauded Jones\Nand expressed hope that he would rule on their side.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:33.06,0:52:43.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,When he didn't, they suddenly changed their\Nopinion and labelled him a liberal activist judge.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:43.82,0:52:48.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Now, why has Benny-boy gone to Poland?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:48.16,0:52:52.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If this is just an American phenomenon...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:52.66,0:52:58.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,why not go to Canada, or the UK,\Nor France, or Germany, or Sweden...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:58.98,0:53:05.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,or even Norway or Denmark?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:05.27,0:53:09.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Why Poland?\NCherry-picking, maybe?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:11.72,0:53:16.31,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is a non-point; Clarence Darrow\Nwanted a guilty verdict in the Scopes trial.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:16.21,0:53:22.06,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, he specifically asked\Nthe jury to find Scopes guilty.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:22.10,0:53:26.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The reason was so that he could\Nappeal and get the law overturned.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:26.91,0:53:31.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Only an appellate court\Ncan overturn the law.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:31.90,0:53:38.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In reality, the guilty verdict\Nwas overturned on a technicality.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:38.15,0:53:43.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The Tennessee legislature\Nrepealed the law.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:43.11,0:53:49.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There is no way in which the evolution\Nside could be said to have lost.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:16.78,0:54:21.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Only because certain religious\Npeople have turned it into one.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:35.72,0:54:39.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Remember that these scientists were\Nlied to about the movie's subject.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:40.63,0:54:45.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There is a difference between stamping\Nout ID and stamping out religion.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:49.18,0:54:56.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 2009, Dawkins published another book, "The\NGreatest Show On Earth: The Evidence for Evolution."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:27.95,0:55:33.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Professor Dawkins, in his\Nresponse to The Dawkins Delusion:
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:33.30,0:55:38.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"I never tire of emphasising how much we don't\Nknow. The God Delusion ends in just such a theme."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:38.33,0:55:44.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"But whereas I and other scientists are humble enough\Nto say we don't know, what of theologians like McGrath?"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:44.41,0:55:46.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Christian doctrine is remarkably specific:
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:46.58,0:55:50.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"not only with cut-and-dried answers to\Nthe deep problems of the universe and life,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:50.96,0:55:57.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"but about the divinity of Jesus, about sin and\Nredemption, heaven and hell, prayer and absolute morality.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:57.99,0:56:03.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"And yet McGrath has the almighty gall to accuse\Nme of a 'glossy,' 'quick fix,' naive faith...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:03.83,0:56:07.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"that science has all the answers."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:07.64,0:56:13.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Is McGrath an 'ideological fanatic' because he\Ndoesn't believe in Thor's hammer? Of course not.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:13.77,0:56:20.72,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Why, then, does he suggest I am exactly that because\NI see no reason to believe in the particular God...
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:20.75,0:56:29.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"whose existence he, lacking both\Nevidence and humility, positively asserts?"
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:29.57,0:56:36.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Published in The Times Online, 12 February 2007.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:56.68,0:57:04.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Ridiculous. You don't even get complete consensus\Namong scientists about issues in their field.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:04.64,0:57:12.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There's no more a scientific war on religion than\Nthere is a scientific war on Republicans vs. Democrats,
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:12.31,0:57:18.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,or meat eaters vs. vegetarians.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:27.09,0:57:30.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Who's saying that?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:30.09,0:57:35.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Certainly not Dawkins, as we just saw.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:35.10,0:57:41.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, he has stated that his certainty\Nabout God's non-existence is "six out of seven."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:54.68,0:58:00.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Of course, he gives absolutely\Nno support for this, that we see.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:20.18,0:58:24.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,More out-of-context remarks.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:35.23,0:58:39.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Isaac Newton's belief in God got in the\Nway of his science on at least one occasion.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:39.66,0:58:45.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He had trouble modelling the solar system because\Nof the minute tugs of the planets on each other.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:45.87,0:58:52.16,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He attributed the stability of the solar system to "the\Ncounsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:52.20,0:58:55.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In other words, God did it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:55.70,0:59:01.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It took another century\Nfor the answer to be found.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:01.68,0:59:09.22,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It was found by P.S. de Laplace, who took on\Nthe challenge and developed Perturbation Theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:09.26,0:59:14.68,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Newton had God as a crutch, so he\Ndidn't put the work into explaining it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:14.71,0:59:19.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But as Laplace said to Napoleon,\Nhe had "no need of that hypothesis."
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:19.95,0:59:25.99,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The true answer was delayed a hundred\Nyears, because of a belief in God.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:30.42,0:59:35.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Is it just me, or are you really wanting\Nhim to interview some guy named "Bueller"?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:57.79,1:00:02.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Actually, many scientists consider\Nevolution to be a designer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:02.89,1:00:10.50,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's not a top-down intelligent designer,\Nbut it is a bottom-up tinkering designer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:10.54,1:00:17.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Recently, NASA used evolutionary algorithms\Nbased on mutation and natural selection
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:17.35,1:00:23.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,to design an antenna for their\Nnew generation of satellites.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:23.64,1:00:31.51,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,A lot of work has been done on evolutionary\Nalgorithms, including by my friend Dr. Lee Graham.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:31.55,1:00:37.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,You can see the results of\Nhis work at StellarAlchemy.com.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:37.94,1:00:42.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Some scientists disagree, in\Nparticular Richard Dawkins.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:42.16,1:00:47.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He prefers to call evolutionarily-\Ndesigned objects "designoid."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:47.87,1:00:54.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It all depends on whether you think a\Ndesign must be directed from the top down.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:54.28,1:01:01.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But really, all you're arguing\Nthere is the definition of "design."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:01.40,1:01:07.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The fact that objects designed from the bottom up can\Nlook like they were designed by a top-down designer...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:07.39,1:01:15.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,is at the crux of the false\Nassumption the ID people make.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:39.44,1:01:46.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There's certainly no indication his words are\Ntypical of the beliefs of scientists or atheists.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:49.63,1:01:56.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dr. William B. Provine is still alive and teaching\Necology and evolutionary biology at Cornell University.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:58.87,1:02:04.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There is no scientific consensus\Nthat evolution precludes free will.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:04.49,1:02:12.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, some scientists think that quantum mechanics\Nmay allow free will to exist naturalistically.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:19.03,1:02:27.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,PZ Myers, as you recall, was misled into thinking this\Nmovie was about "the intersection of science and religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:55.35,1:03:02.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The interesting thing here is that Stein is not criticizing\Nthem for taking an unscientific position about God.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:02.08,1:03:07.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He is criticizing them for allowing evolution\Nto take away the gap where their God existed.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:07.96,1:03:12.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is another problem with\Ncreationism/ID: the God of the Gaps.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:12.46,1:03:18.81,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Irreducible complexity" is a perfect\Nexample of the God of the Gaps.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:18.84,1:03:24.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It says, in essence, "I don't understand\Nhow this could have come about naturally,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:24.94,1:03:29.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"therefore, God must have done it."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:29.50,1:03:35.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Of course, the fact that an explanation isn't\Nknown doesn't mean that one doesn't exist.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:35.94,1:03:42.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The underlying implication here is that\Nthe person holding to the God of the Gaps...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:42.36,1:03:46.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,must know absolutely everything\Nabout the natural world.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:46.84,1:03:52.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Talk about hubris!
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:16.95,1:04:22.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, remember that PZ was misled\Nas to the subject of the film.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:22.77,1:04:29.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He was told it was about "the\Nintersection of science and religion."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:00.56,1:05:05.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He didn't say utopia, Ben. Don't use hyperbole.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:14.43,1:05:24.51,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Here, Stein reproduces the fallacy that atheism\Nwas responsible for totalitarian regimes.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:24.54,1:05:32.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The truth is, these regimes were as dogmatic\Nas religion is, albeit in different ways.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:32.24,1:05:37.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Stalin's disbelief in God didn't have anything\Nmore do do with his murderous policies...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:37.70,1:05:43.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,than his disbelief in Leprechauns.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:06.75,1:06:10.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is absolutely untrue.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:10.39,1:06:14.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Hitler wrote about\Nextermination of the Jews.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:14.96,1:06:20.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That idea had been around for\Ncenturies before Darwin came along.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:20.96,1:06:26.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The only difference is, Hitler had the\Ntechnology to do it on a massive scale.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:26.16,1:06:31.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,What he doesn't tell you is, in Mein Kampf\NHitler made numerous references to God.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:31.73,1:06:37.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Hitler thought he was doing God's holy work.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:37.58,1:06:44.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Hitler was a Christian who heavily criticized the\Nrest of Christendom for letting the Jews live so long.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:44.86,1:06:49.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, Hitler's beliefs were\Ndiametrically opposite to Darwin's.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:49.64,1:06:54.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Hitler believed that the\NAryans were the supreme race.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:54.36,1:07:01.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,His extermination of millions of Jews was\Nnothing fundamentally different from what\Ndog breeders had been doing for millenia.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:01.06,1:07:06.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's artificial selection. It way predates Darwin.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:06.90,1:07:12.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,What Darwin did was look at this process\Nof selection and apply it to nature.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:12.88,1:07:21.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He realized that nature undergoes a selection\Nprocess, not goal-oriented like artificial selection,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:21.05,1:07:25.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and not intelligently directed,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:25.67,1:07:33.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but it goes through a natural process of\Nselecting the forms that are best able to survive.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:33.90,1:07:43.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If Hitler had really been a Darwinist,\Nhe would have done absolutely nothing.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:43.20,1:07:51.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He would have believed that natural\Nselection would kill off the Jews.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:51.33,1:08:03.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Instead, he took a decidedly anti-Darwinian course\Nof action and took matters into his own hands.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:03.92,1:08:10.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Killing off the sick or the\Nhandicapped is not at all Darwinian.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:10.14,1:08:20.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, our ability to care for our sick and equip\Nour handicapped increases our survival potential.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:20.13,1:08:25.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As a matter of fact, not only were\NHitler's ideas not Darwinian at all...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:25.33,1:08:32.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but the works of Darwin were\Nactually banned by the Nazis.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:39.83,1:08:45.10,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Charles Darwin, from The Descent of Man:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:45.14,1:08:49.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"With savages, the weak in body\Nor mind are soon eliminated;
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:49.66,1:08:54.34,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and those that survive commonly\Nexhibit a vigorous state of health.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:54.37,1:08:58.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"We civilized men, on the other hand, do our\Nutmost to check the process of elimination;
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:58.90,1:09:06.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"we build asylums for the imbecile, the\Nmaimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws;
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:06.59,1:09:15.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and our medical men exert their utmost skill to\Nsave the life of every one to the last moment."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:15.33,1:09:19.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Eugenics began not with\NDarwin, but Herbert Spencer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:19.31,1:09:27.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This misnamed "Social Darwinism" was put forth by\NSpencer before Darwin published Origin of Species.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:27.96,1:09:33.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It is from this, not Darwin, that we\Nget the phrase "survival of the fittest."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:33.78,1:09:41.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Even after Origin was published,\NSpencer was not a Darwinist.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:41.92,1:09:48.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Darwin did not equate evolution\Nwith upwardly-mobile progress.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:48.17,1:09:53.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Spencer stuck with Lamarckian evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:53.29,1:10:00.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Spencer believed that humanitarian interests\Nshould not be used to interfere with nature's laws,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:00.65,1:10:08.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,whereas Darwin considered these humanitarian interests\Na part of the evolutionary survival of humans.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:07.00,1:11:10.36,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,No, they weren't.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:10.40,1:11:17.41,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,We've already discussed how their program\Nwas not Darwinism in any way, shape, or form.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:17.45,1:11:21.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In fact, it's the diametric opposite.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:24.17,1:11:31.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,You know, you'd think the producers would have included\Nclips of Hitler talking about Darwin, but they didnt.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:31.46,1:11:36.51,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Probably because he didn't\Nsay anything about it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:41.27,1:11:44.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Names, please?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:51.84,1:11:54.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Can we have their names?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:56.31,1:11:59.15,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Guess not.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:06.89,1:12:13.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Eugenics is based on Lamarckian,\Nnot Darwinian, evolution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:13.03,1:12:18.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Lamarckism is progressive, and acquired fortunes\Nor detriments are passed on to the next generation.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:18.06,1:12:22.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Darwinism lacks the perfect equilibrium\Nthat Lamarckian eugenics seeks.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:22.67,1:12:27.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The American Eugenics program had\Nnothing to do with Darwinism, either.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:27.03,1:12:29.43,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It wasn't even much like Spencer's eugenics,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:29.47,1:12:33.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,although it was a lot\Ncloser than Hitler's version.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:34.47,1:12:38.16,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,20,000 of those were\Nsterilized in California alone.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:38.19,1:12:40.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,All total, 33 states had a Eugenics program.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:40.81,1:12:44.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Oregon was the last. It repealed\Nits forced sterilization law in 1983.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:44.69,1:12:48.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The last forced sterilization\Nin the United States was 1978.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:48.30,1:12:52.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Planned Parenthood is in no way eugenics.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:52.41,1:12:56.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It's about people on their own\Ndeciding when to have children.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:56.95,1:13:00.89,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Eugenics is imposed through intervention.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:00.92,1:13:06.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Birth control was and is seen as a benefit to the poor\Nso they don't have to worry about more mouths to feed.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:07.50,1:13:11.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One of the biggest proponents of eugenics\Namong American scientists was William Shockley.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:12.01,1:13:16.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He was in favor of\Nsterilizations based on low IQ.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:16.68,1:13:21.71,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As one of the inventors of the transistor,\Nwhich won him and two others a Nobel Prize,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:21.74,1:13:25.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,he should have been highly\Nregarded among scientists.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:25.22,1:13:31.35,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But, contrary to the idea you'd get from watching this\Nmovie, his fellow scientists considered him a kook.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:31.39,1:13:34.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They considered his eugenics ideas bigoted\Nand unworthy of a respected scientist.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:34.96,1:13:38.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One British victim of forced\Nsterilization was Alan Turing.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:38.98,1:13:43.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Turing is considered the father\Nof modern computer science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:43.40,1:13:48.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,His Turing Test revolutionized the\Nfield of Artificial Intelligence.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:48.18,1:13:55.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Turing was homosexual, which in the UK at the\Ntime was illegal and considered a mental illness.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:55.58,1:14:02.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Turing was charged under the same law Oscar Wilde\Nhad been convicted of more than fifty years earlier.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:02.81,1:14:09.46,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,He was sentenced to chemical castration\Nand had to receive forced injections.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:09.50,1:14:15.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In 1954, he was found\Ndead of cyanide poisoning.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:15.09,1:14:21.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It is believed to be a suicide,\Nbut details are ambiguous.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:25.98,1:14:31.47,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,German historian Andrew Zimmerman said that Weikart "distorts the history of Darwinism...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:31.48,1:14:39.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"and anti-Darwinism in Germany in ways that reflect\Ntheocratic agendas in present-day American politics."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:39.31,1:14:44.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Ann Taylor Allen, professor of\NGerman history, said of Zimmerman's book:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:44.91,1:14:51.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"This picture of the Holocaust as the outcome\Nof a 'culture war' between religion and science...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:51.03,1:14:55.15,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"leads to serious distortions on both sides."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:55.18,1:14:59.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"If all these ideas were to fall\Ninto well-deserved obsolescence,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:59.57,1:15:07.64,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"this would in no way detract from the validity of\NDarwin's contributions to modern biological science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:07.68,1:15:16.20,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Neither religion nor science is well served by\Nthis oversimplified view of their complex history."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:28.42,1:15:35.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One could easily ask the same question\Nabout religion, even Christianity...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:35.66,1:15:40.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and with a much greater degree of justification.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:40.96,1:15:45.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Crusades, inquisitions, witch hunts,\Nand other forms of mass murder...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:45.61,1:15:51.08,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,all had their direct and unmistakable\Njustifications in the Bible.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:51.11,1:15:58.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There are no such justifications for\Ngenocide anywhere in Darwin's writings.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:58.08,1:16:04.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In Voyage of the Beagle, Darwin expressed the\Nlove he held for people all over the globe,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:04.14,1:16:09.42,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and clearly expressed his\Nextreme hatred of slavery.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:09.46,1:16:15.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In Descent of Man, he lamented\Nthe British imperialism...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:15.88,1:16:22.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,which had resulted in the\Nextermination of several native peoples.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:38.39,1:16:45.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It is an "elite" only in the sense that\Nsome people know more about it than others.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:54.09,1:16:57.59,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Yeah, right; it must be a conspiracy.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:57.63,1:17:03.02,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It couldn't possibly be because\Nhis side has no data to back it up.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:24.37,1:17:28.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Another difference between\NDarwinism and eugenics...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:28.89,1:17:36.88,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,is that eugenics seeks to reduce the\Ndiversity of inherited characteristics.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:36.92,1:17:45.18,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Darwinism works best when that diversity\Nis enhanced and added to, not culled.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:08.49,1:18:12.49,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is quoted out of context.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:12.52,1:18:17.67,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Several key phrases were\Neliminated from the middle.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:17.70,1:18:22.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,A more complete version of the quote\Nwas given earlier in these subtitles.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:32.46,1:18:36.92,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This part is not even a complete sentence.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:36.95,1:18:43.14,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,More completely: "It is surprising how\Nsoon a want of care, or care wrongly directed,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:43.14,1:18:46.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"leads to the degeneration of a domestic race;
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:46.27,1:18:53.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone\Nis so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:53.64,1:18:57.28,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"The aid which we feel impelled\Nto give to the helpless...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:57.31,1:19:01.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"is mainly an incidental result\Nof the instinct of sympathy,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:01.49,1:19:07.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"which was originally acquired\Nas part of the social instincts,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:07.19,1:19:11.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"but subsequently rendered, in\Nthe manner previously indicated,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:11.52,1:19:16.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"more tender and more widely diffused.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:16.24,1:19:22.13,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Nor could we check our sympathy,\Neven at the urging of hard reason,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:22.13,1:19:27.37,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"without deterioration in the\Nnoblest part of our nature."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:27.37,1:19:34.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The omitted phrases show the passage to be\Nthe opposite of what Stein makes it out to be.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:34.93,1:19:38.58,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,From Voyage of the Beagle:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:38.61,1:19:47.29,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"[I]f the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws\Nof nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin..."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:47.32,1:19:55.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"And these deeds are done and palliated by men,\Nwho profess to love their neighbours as themselves,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:55.78,1:20:02.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"who believe in God, and pray\Nthat his Will be done on earth!
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:02.51,1:20:11.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble,\Nto think that we...have been and are so guilty:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:11.07,1:20:18.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"but it is a consolation to reflect, that\Nwe at least have made a greater sacrifice,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:18.66,1:20:28.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"than ever made by any\Nnation, to expiate our sin."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:38.85,1:20:43.83,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As we've seen, they're grossly\Nmisrepresenting what's going on.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:43.87,1:20:49.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,None of their cases have turned\Nout to be what they said they were.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:49.96,1:20:56.52,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They have not provided any\Nactual evidence of persecution.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:56.55,1:21:02.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Intelligent Design is absolutely\Nfree to participate in science...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:02.67,1:21:08.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as long as they conform to the scientific\Nmethod and produce a viable theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:08.29,1:21:11.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As long as they keep saying things\Nthat have been falsified decades ago,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:11.90,1:21:15.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,they'll continue to be shunned.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:15.83,1:21:19.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That's as it should be.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:21.86,1:21:25.72,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Here's a Jefferson quote for you:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:25.76,1:21:31.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Question with boldness\Neven the existence of a God;
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:31.37,1:21:40.90,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"because, if there be one, he must\Nmore approve the homage of reason
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:40.94,1:21:45.84,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"than that of blind-folded fear."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:50.35,1:21:56.39,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, none of these scientists were "expelled."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:06.74,1:22:10.60,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dr. Scott's reply:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:10.63,1:22:16.54,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Who is Ben Stein to say what\Nis science and not science?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:16.58,1:22:20.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"None of us speak for science.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:20.68,1:22:27.65,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Scientists vary all over the map in\Ntheir religious and philosophical views,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:27.69,1:22:32.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"for example, Francis Collins,\Nso no one can speak for science."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:32.81,1:22:37.55,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,--from eSkeptic, 17 April 2008
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:41.44,1:22:44.57,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, that isn't what happened.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:52.16,1:22:56.98,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Remember that it was a\Nnon-tenure track contract.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:03.27,1:23:08.97,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, such contracts fail to be renewed\Nall the time for reasons of class demand.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:20.73,1:23:27.12,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Because it didn't.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:27.15,1:23:34.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It had to do with him misrepresenting a University\Nconnection with a nonexistent laboratory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:34.90,1:23:39.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They were willing to allow\Nhim to keep the web site,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:39.22,1:23:44.42,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as long as he removed the word\N"laboratory" and included a disclaimer.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:44.46,1:23:50.49,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Marks refused, and the web site was\Nmoved to an external hosting provider.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:50.52,1:23:55.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The site could have been about basket weaving\Nand the same thing would have happened.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:16.02,1:24:21.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Notice how these are short\Nquotes devoid of context.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:39.93,1:24:45.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Note the jump-cut: it's\Nlikely something was cut here.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:59.06,1:25:03.50,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,I've got a few new candidates\Nfor the epithet "idiot," myself.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:39.48,1:25:43.51,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Again, there is one\Nway they could do this:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:43.55,1:25:46.99,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Come up with a coherent theory.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:47.02,1:25:51.11,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Put in the work to confirm its predictions.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:51.14,1:25:56.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Make it correspond with\Nexisting scientific knowledge.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:56.52,1:26:01.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It can be done.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:01.33,1:26:07.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Just ask Lynn Margulis.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:15.11,1:26:22.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,And they could come over to that side\Nof the wall any time they wanted to.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:22.85,1:26:30.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,That is, if the theory they come\Nup with passes its own tests.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:30.25,1:26:36.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If there's any merit to\Nthe idea, it would work.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:08.24,1:27:17.59,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,One wonders what the point of these\Nlong transitional sequences is.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:24.57,1:27:34.23,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Now, do you really think Benny-Benny-Bo-Benny just\Nwalked right off the street straight into the interview?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:34.27,1:27:42.25,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,As if he didn't go through\Nthe same make-up preparations.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:42.28,1:27:52.38,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Might they be trying to make Dawkins look\Nvain and Stein look like an ordinary guy?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:52.42,1:28:00.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Everyone on camera gets\Nmakeup. Directors insist on it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:00.30,1:28:05.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So yes, Stein got the same make-up job.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:43.14,1:30:47.40,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Dawkins on this next exchange:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:47.43,1:30:51.04,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Stein asked whether I could think\Nof any circumstances whatsoever...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:51.04,1:30:54.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"under which intelligent\Ndesign might have occurred.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:54.70,1:31:02.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"It's the kind of challenge I relish, and I set myself\Nthe task of imagining the most plausible scenario I could.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:02.34,1:31:09.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"I wanted to give ID its best shot,\Nhowever poor that best shot might be."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:09.57,1:31:14.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"I patiently explained to him that life could\Nconceivably have been seeded on Earth..."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:14.00,1:31:19.22,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"by an alien intelligence\Nfrom another planet..."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:19.26,1:31:23.56,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"The conclusion I was heading towards was\Nthat, even in the highly unlikely event...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:23.56,1:31:27.86,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"that some such 'Directed Panspermia' was\Nresponsible for designing life on this planet,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:27.89,1:31:34.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"the alien beings would\NTHEMSELVES have to have evolved."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:34.06,1:31:37.63,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,--RichardDawkins.net, 23 March 2008
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:37.66,1:31:41.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,This is the big unanswered\Nquestion of Intelligent Design:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:41.25,1:31:44.19,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Who designed the designer?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:44.22,1:31:51.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If we're so complex as to require a designer,\Nthat designer must be complex as well.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:51.34,1:31:55.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So the designer needs a designer,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:55.85,1:32:00.85,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and that designer needs a designer,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:00.88,1:32:05.32,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and you end up in an infinite regress.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:25.00,1:32:28.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The rational atheist conclusion\Nfor the nonexistence of God...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:28.84,1:32:33.66,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,is an expression of the scientific\Nprinciple of the Null Hypothesis.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:33.70,1:32:41.79,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,In science, when you posit the existence of\Nsomething, you begin by assuming it doesn't exist.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:41.82,1:32:48.53,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,You then test for its existence\Nagainst the Null Hypothesis.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:48.56,1:32:53.44,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,If the test fails, the Null Hypothesis wins.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:53.48,1:32:56.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It doesn't mean that the thing doesn't exist,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:56.94,1:33:01.82,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,but it hasn't been shown to exist,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:12.18,1:33:15.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Wait...I thought ID wasn't religion?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:15.78,1:33:20.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So, what's all this talk about God?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:21.70,1:33:26.73,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,What if science did find God?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:26.76,1:33:31.74,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Then it is the rational atheists like Dawkins...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:31.78,1:33:37.03,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,who would be best able to study him.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:37.06,1:33:41.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They would be able to examine him without bias.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:41.73,1:33:47.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,But a religious person would see it as\Na vindication of all they believed in.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:47.79,1:33:54.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,It would confirm every dogma and\Nevery preconceived notion they held.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:54.20,1:34:01.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,They would be in a position of having\Nto shirk off all of that bias...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:01.28,1:34:09.05,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,if the God we find is even slightly\Ndifferent to the one they believe in...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:09.08,1:34:13.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,as he almost certainly would be.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:24.56,1:34:28.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,There is absolutely no evidence of this.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:28.24,1:34:32.21,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,None of their claims of\Nostracism stood up to scrutiny.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:34.98,1:34:39.34,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Including all of these shots\Nabout Communism and Nazism...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:39.37,1:34:44.27,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,is nothing but a Poisoning the Well fallacy.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:47.60,1:34:50.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Sounds to me like we have that already,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:50.82,1:34:56.17,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and you're fighting them!
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:44.57,1:35:47.95,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,The more boldly and often\Nsomeone makes a claim...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:47.98,1:35:52.93,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,the more suspicious you should be of it.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:52.97,1:35:56.87,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,So all of this pressing\Nof the freedom issue...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:56.91,1:36:03.33,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,leads me to believe that they're\Njust using it as a smokescreen.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:21.82,1:36:25.48,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Martyr complex, anyone?
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:25.51,1:36:29.07,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Ask PZ Myers about hate email.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:40.79,1:36:42.78,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Richard Dawkins on the movie:
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:42.88,1:36:49.77,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"The whole tone of the film is\Nwhiny, paranoid--pathetic really."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:49.85,1:36:53.94,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"[This] film is positively\Nbarking with Lord Privy Seals.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:53.98,1:36:57.45,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"We get an otherwise pointless cut to\NNikita Krushchev hammering the table...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:57.45,1:36:59.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"(to illustrate something\Nlike 'emotional outburst').
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:59.65,1:37:02.70,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"There are similarly clunking and\Nartless cuts to a guillotine, fist fights,
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:02.70,1:37:05.75,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,and above all to the Berlin wall and Nazi\Ngas chambers and concentration camps."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:05.79,1:37:10.61,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"[T]here are two reasons why we need to\Ntake Darwinian natural selection seriously.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:10.64,1:37:15.80,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Firstly, it is the most important element in the\Nexplanation for our own existence and that of all life.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:15.83,1:37:20.24,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"Secondly, natural selection is a good object\Nlesson in how NOT to organize a society.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:20.28,1:37:26.91,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"As I have often said before, as a\Nscientist I am a passionate Darwinian.
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:26.95,1:37:30.62,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,"But as a citizen and a human being,\NI want to construct a society...
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:30.62,1:37:34.30,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,which is about as un-Darwinian\Nas we can make it."
Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:34.33,1:37:38.69,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,--RichardDawkins.net, 23 March 2008
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